The quality of your content is improving a lot video after video. Great job man, and thanks again! I was wondering if the GPU OC is worthwhile..you did gain around 9% boost on the GPU, but how would that translate in degradation in the long run?! When I bought my THICC-15 I was thinking it to last at least 5 years, so I'm a little skeptical about overclocking... I understand it's a personal decision, but I was just making my point. Thanks!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Huh funny. I am about to reduce my video quality a bit to reduce production time and publish more videos. Starting with this video the effort was less than in the last ones. But I am glad you like it anyway :) Degradation, or to be precise cooling solution concerns are a topic in the second part. :) Coming tomorrow. I can't give guarantees regarding degradation, but there should be no additional degradation going on from GPU core overclocking, because you stay in the limits. But voltage is a little less in the end, so current which flows into the GPU does increase a little, not much though. The GPU chip/die does not mind, it's the same as in desktop GPUs, but the VRMs should run a little hotter because of the little current bump. But don't panic, Clevo planned with some headroom. I will investigate that topic (VRM & video memory temperature) in a future video. As I said in the video the video memory will run hotter with any OC applied to it. A +500MHz vMem OC in MSI Afterburner (so +1Gbps) lead to 3-4W more power draw in the GDDR6 dies. We got 8 memory dies installed with the RTX 2070 Mobile, so every memory die consumes up to 0.5W more power. I can't tell what effect this has on the vMem temperature. Especially with the original "half-sized" thermal pads. More investigations coming
@@TechModLab Naaah don't do that! Lol.. you are creating a solid baseline for when you publish you 3D printed projects! It's gonna be very interesting to see you next video, as the cooling solution is practically running at its limits with stock settings! Lol..! Thanks man!
Hehe I think I shouldn't use this channel for 3d printing as intended in the beginning. Drove too far down the road with notebook stuff. Will be tech stuff and mods now ;)
@@TechModLab Woo-hoo!! Lol! You are great at tech stuff for sure. Was curious about your 3D techniques! Hopefully soon, but please don't leave APEX 15 just yet... By the way, did you fill out the survey forms for Tom on reddit? He's getting data for a potential BIOS upgrade of these Clevo laptops to Ryzen 5000 series.. Honestly, I will get a 5950X if they make a compatible BIOS available!! Then, I wouldn't have to spend a single penny on it for maybe half a decade! Just imagine: a 5950X (16c/32t), 64GB RAM, 2TB+2TB SSD, RTX 2070... what else do I need?! lol...
@@leovbernardo I think there will be an update some time next year. I would actually bet on it ^^ Clevo was always strong on keeping support for their previous gen notebooks. So I hope they will manage to realize it.
Great content and please keep them coming, I'm eager to see part 2! There are obvious gains from overclocking. and damn, it's fun too ^^ Had the impression the vRam clock would have more influence in bumping the frames up but as it seems it's really not that case (also a bit of a trade-off on core clock as you you've shown impecably with your charts). It should be interesting to compare the legacy rtx 2070 with 14Gbps vRam to the refresh version with 11Gbps and know exactly why they made that choice (Limit vRam since it's exactly the same chip used in last gen). I'm curious :) Since you'll be taxing the core side more to achieve similar results and getting potentialy more concentrated heat on the die along the way (Atleast benchmark wise, there's not a huge difference between the two). Maybe better wields in gpu core binning letting them push the curves a bit higher? Who knows... Never had the time to compare the frequency/voltage curves between the 2 models but I'll sure investigate if the last gen chip can run clocks as high as the refresh model by dragging the vRam down to 11Gbps. Waiting eagerly for your insights in the next video! Compwxr out :D
officially? No way. That would very likely lead to higher RMA rates (more broken notebooks). Besides, the PSU is close to the limit anyway. But maybe there will be a vBIOS mod some day. But I doubt it. NVidia offers no unlocked mobile GPUs. What would be possible is a hardware mod. Thinking about to try that out in 2021. Warranty will be void both ways though, software and hardware mods.
The quality of your content is improving a lot video after video. Great job man, and thanks again!
I was wondering if the GPU OC is worthwhile..you did gain around 9% boost on the GPU, but how would that translate in degradation in the long run?! When I bought my THICC-15 I was thinking it to last at least 5 years, so I'm a little skeptical about overclocking... I understand it's a personal decision, but I was just making my point.
Thanks!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Huh funny. I am about to reduce my video quality a bit to reduce production time and publish more videos. Starting with this video the effort was less than in the last ones. But I am glad you like it anyway :)
Degradation, or to be precise cooling solution concerns are a topic in the second part. :) Coming tomorrow.
I can't give guarantees regarding degradation, but there should be no additional degradation going on from GPU core overclocking, because you stay in the limits. But voltage is a little less in the end, so current which flows into the GPU does increase a little, not much though. The GPU chip/die does not mind, it's the same as in desktop GPUs, but the VRMs should run a little hotter because of the little current bump. But don't panic, Clevo planned with some headroom. I will investigate that topic (VRM & video memory temperature) in a future video.
As I said in the video the video memory will run hotter with any OC applied to it. A +500MHz vMem OC in MSI Afterburner (so +1Gbps) lead to 3-4W more power draw in the GDDR6 dies. We got 8 memory dies installed with the RTX 2070 Mobile, so every memory die consumes up to 0.5W more power. I can't tell what effect this has on the vMem temperature. Especially with the original "half-sized" thermal pads. More investigations coming
@@TechModLab Naaah don't do that! Lol.. you are creating a solid baseline for when you publish you 3D printed projects!
It's gonna be very interesting to see you next video, as the cooling solution is practically running at its limits with stock settings! Lol..!
Thanks man!
Hehe I think I shouldn't use this channel for 3d printing as intended in the beginning. Drove too far down the road with notebook stuff. Will be tech stuff and mods now ;)
@@TechModLab Woo-hoo!! Lol! You are great at tech stuff for sure. Was curious about your 3D techniques! Hopefully soon, but please don't leave APEX 15 just yet... By the way, did you fill out the survey forms for Tom on reddit? He's getting data for a potential BIOS upgrade of these Clevo laptops to Ryzen 5000 series.. Honestly, I will get a 5950X if they make a compatible BIOS available!! Then, I wouldn't have to spend a single penny on it for maybe half a decade! Just imagine: a 5950X (16c/32t), 64GB RAM, 2TB+2TB SSD, RTX 2070... what else do I need?! lol...
@@leovbernardo I think there will be an update some time next year. I would actually bet on it ^^ Clevo was always strong on keeping support for their previous gen notebooks. So I hope they will manage to realize it.
Great content and please keep them coming, I'm eager to see part 2! There are obvious gains from overclocking. and damn, it's fun too ^^
Had the impression the vRam clock would have more influence in bumping the frames up but as it seems it's really not that case (also a bit of a trade-off on core clock as you you've shown impecably with your charts).
It should be interesting to compare the legacy rtx 2070 with 14Gbps vRam to the refresh version with 11Gbps and know exactly why they made that choice (Limit vRam since it's exactly the same chip used in last gen).
I'm curious :) Since you'll be taxing the core side more to achieve similar results and getting potentialy more concentrated heat on the die along the way (Atleast benchmark wise, there's not a huge difference between the two). Maybe better wields in gpu core binning letting them push the curves a bit higher? Who knows...
Never had the time to compare the frequency/voltage curves between the 2 models but I'll sure investigate if the last gen chip can run clocks as high as the refresh model by dragging the vRam down to 11Gbps. Waiting eagerly for your insights in the next video! Compwxr out :D
Thanks, any chance to implement an unlocked RTX2070 Bios to control Power and Temp-Limit?
officially? No way. That would very likely lead to higher RMA rates (more broken notebooks). Besides, the PSU is close to the limit anyway. But maybe there will be a vBIOS mod some day. But I doubt it. NVidia offers no unlocked mobile GPUs.
What would be possible is a hardware mod. Thinking about to try that out in 2021.
Warranty will be void both ways though, software and hardware mods.