It has only now occurred to me that since Hades is Mal's father, that makes her a demigod. But she has no cool demigod powers so that's such a lost opportunity lol.
@@theplaidbutterflyprince in the garbage opening song of them stealing with a blatant disregard for public property, I think they were kinda enjoying life a little bit.
seamus taking so much pride in predicting the plot of a kid's movie is the funniest but most relatable thing ever. edit: a family film with a target audience of 8+ enjoyable to all ages
There are so many things about descendants I don't like, but the main one is: You made a sixteen year old boy a king while the dad was still alive? Also, why would you trust the kids of villains after they'd been locked away and influenced by their parents for years?
I’ll say this: Best Plot - Descendants 1 Best soundtrack - Descendants 2 Wasn’t needed - Descendants 3 Overall, the second one is my favorite Descendants caters more to younger audiences where as HSM can be for all ages with its dialogue and acting. I prefer HSM over Descendants.
I feel like the idea of descendents was much more cool than the actual movies. I remember being extremely excited for the first one, but then I was disappointed by it
My biggest grip with this movie (other than ending Ever After) was that the villain kids don’t actually do anything evil? Especially in the first half?? They have this big moment where they are like “we are done being good” but like nothing about their behavior changes?? And all the “chaos” they do cause is forgiven or forgotten by the end so it doesn’t even make sense.
Pretty sure it's based off of a book or something like that. If I remember correctly Frollo had a kid in that one, which has some really messed up connotations.
Fun fact: I cannot tell you where this is set BUT I can tell you where it was filmed: the castle is about 5 minutes down the road from where I live and it’s a local university here in Canada! They also filmed Arrow, Smallville, and some of the xmen movies (and Deadpool) here. It was really cool getting to watch them film the movies here then seeing them get so popular.
“Do people actually hang under the bleachers?” Mostly just the stoner kids. But a lot of teens in late 90s and early - mid 00’s would use it as the make out spot
Descendants is like that one movie that your younger sister gets really into for like a week, and she buys a binder and a pencil case or whatever with the brand slapped on it, but then loses interest and abandons her plan to dress up as Evie for Halloween. Or is that just my perspective?
The thing about the 3rd one that feels the weirdest is that Ben and Mal are engaged while Evie and Doug didn't even have their first kiss yet and that's so weird because they've been coupled up the same amount of time. Also, I get why she would give the kids from the isle a chance as well as making the situation on the isle better as a whole, but why would all the villains be forgiven, some of them for murder or attempted murder, kidnapping etc.? Also also, to answer your question: Auredon is the united kingdom of all places of all the Disney movies (completly ignoring time differences, whether they were set in the real world or a fairy tale land etc.) and they are specifically in the part where Beauty and the Beast took place (even if this makes no sense, cause the beast's castle was not near the ocean). Since most of the kids are royalty, I supposed that the royal status' of the original movies remained and the Beast became sort of an emporer over all of them
"I supposed that the royal status.... and the Beast became a sort of emperor" That is the ONLY way I can see any of this working out, honestly. Because like, why would all the other kings and queens agree to just give up their power to one couple, because they said so? That is wildly awful leadership. Every single leader really just turned their backs on their people and said "you belong to this guy, now"? Really?
@hanna @Avenus_6 I'm sorry, I meant Evie and Doug hadn't said "I love you" yet. The problem is still the same, because saying "I love you" should come way before engagement and it doesn't make sense that two couples who came together at approximately the same time would be this far appart in their relationships
Another continuity error I have just noticed is in the second movie the dog is able to talk on the Isles but in the third movie and all the movies they say that magic doesn’t work there. In the third one Mal gets cursed and it breaks when she goes to the Isles but somehow the magic of the dog talking still works there. I guess it all depends on how convenient it is for the plot
One continuity error between the books and movies, Mal apparently dated Harry before Ben, so Evie's comment is wrong. However, they were both in the works at the same time, so someone at Disney should be held responsible for the discontinuity.
Yes! Another thing that always bothered me was that Maleficent gives Mal the spell book because "it doesn't work here...but it will in Auradon." But then in Descendants 2 Uma uses it to escape and spell Ben. And if magic doesn't work there, why does Uma want Fairy Godmother's wand?? It wouldn't work anyway!
In this scene 27:50 from the 3rd movie they specifically say “EVIL magic doesn’t work here”. So technically the dog being able to talk on the island while the old age spell being reversed is not a continuity error, anymore. Though, that’s most likely a retcon to fix the error they caused in the second movie.
@@_LunarDragon True. After I wrote it I was like would the dog being able to talk technically be evil magic bc if I remember correctly Mal was going to use it on Ben to get him to tell the truth which depending on the reasons and stuff it could possibly be seen as evil magic
@@emilyswartz6941 Ya ur right. The wand wouldn’t have worked anyway so they didn’t need to make a 3D model of it and have the dog talk. Uma’s plan isn’t the smartest it should have been bring someone who can the gate and the wand
29:22 pretty sure that’s exactly why audrey wasn’t in the second one 😭 also, there’s a scene with the director at the end of the third one where the ‘you didn’t think this was the end of the story did you’ line appears again - but they cut it for disney+ release because plans for a fourth one were cancelled after cameron boyce - carlos - passed away
@@anaisabelpais7389 i saw it when my younger siblings forced me to watch it, the did you think it was the end of the story made me think, “how are they going to do that?”
@@elsielaurenn This is not the end of descendants lore we were guaranteed there will be more it sounds like there could be more on the way. Gary Marsh, president and chief creative officer of Disney Branded Television, said in a statement, “Descendants introduced a fantasy world of stories and characters, anchored in Disney mythology. … It had the benefit of immensely talented stars, who we now welcome back for this animated Royal Wedding special that will bridge the audience to what we hope will be a new chapter of compelling Descendants stories and characters yet to come.”
Me too also was disney stole the idea of the children of fairy tail characters from mattel and yet the reason Ever after high got canceled was because descendants was more popular
As a person who was only recently gotten into the clone high series, ever after high is what clone high should have been. A story about the teenaged descendants of icons that meditates upon the idea of nature vs nurture. Story the teachers people that just because the world says what you will do with your life, that doesn't necessarily mean you have to do it. You can be whatever you wish to be. The soap operatic Dawson's Creek style love-triangle ruined clone high for me. But then, that's my opinion.
they were actually going to make a 4th one, but the actor who played carlos (cameron boyce) passed away just before the 3rd film was released so they cut the “you didn’t think that was the end of the story, did you?” part and weren’t gonna be doing another one. although they have recently teased at a D4 but i don’t think it’ll be about the main 4- might shift the focus onto like Dizzy or Celia maybe x
I think it’s stupid when people make the decision to end a production because an actor died. The Carlos character didn’t anything anyways so no real loss storywise. Obviously real life wise, very tragic and sad what happened to Cameron. His poor parents
@@4everbuffylover yeah i agree, but i wonder if maybe the other actors didn’t want to carry on with it after he died? bc they were all really close and it would probably not have been the same without him
@@4everbuffylover Yes, but for something like this, where it's one of the main characters, it feels extremely disrespectful to have the other three and then just give an excuse for why he's not there.
As an American, here's my thoughts on the bleachers: 1. One time at a football game my friend dropped her phone and we had to go under the bleachers to get it. Nobody else was under there, so clearly it's not like a place people go while they're at the game. 2. I actually can understand the appeal and I'm surprised people don't sit under there. It's like a fun little hiding spot. 3. In most of the media I see people go meet under the bleachers to hook up (or just to talk if it's a Disney movie) in the middle of the school day while nobody else is there. I have no idea if people really do this. I doubt it bc if you're already sneaking out to go to the football field you might as well just leave. Or sit in your car.
American: Nobody hangs out under bleachers. It’s very rare for people to hang out on campus unless for a club or sport or something. I knew a few people that would hang out on playgrounds, but that’s it. That’s just at my school though. Feel free to inform me of your experience
I'm American too but at my school they had it where you couldn't even get behind/under the bleachers. If people were at the bleachers talking, it was usually just because they were waiting on a bell (they didn't even sit on the bleachers, they would just stand in it's vicinity instead). Thanks for listening to my tedtalk
at my school people hung out under the bleachers lol. only really during the school day or like after school, but yeah they did. but it was only really a school hangout spot, yk what i mean?
I went to a K-12 school in the US and we only hung out under the bleachers at sporting events, and generally it was the elementary and middle schoolers, not high schoolers.
"How does Ursula have sex?" Have you never heard of tentacle p---? "Who has sex with Ursula?" 1) If it exists, it's someone's kink. 2) Remember when we all first went into lockdown, and after a month, people were like, "Hey does anyone think the evil guy from Mulan is kinda fine?" That's basically what happened with the Isle residents. They got stuck there and it screwed up their attraction.
Yeah but can't Ursula just transform into a normal human? She's a witch and she did that in the original Ariel movie, she transformed into a human so she could date the prince or whatever
The thing about Descendants is that it is a blatant knock-off of Mattel’s show Ever After High, which was also about the children of famous fairytale characters and involved conflict between villain children and and royal children You have to know a fair bit of Mattel history to fully understand everything, but at the time Ever After High was released, Disney got upset because Mattel was resigning from making Disney Princess dolls in order to focus on this new show and to sever ties with Disney interpretations of famous fairytales. While Descendants had a slightly different focus, Ever After High was created first and there are many similarities between the two (in terms of dialogue, character design, character choices, storylines, etc), showing how Disney wanted to upstage EAH. It was a shame, because Ever After High was a great show, but unfortunately it was cancelled due to the release of Descendants (2, I think, but I could be wrong) at a very bad time and the show/doll line’s budget got smaller and smaller due to Disney’s competition, effectively ruining the show. This is also the reason that Mattel doesn’t make Disney Princess dolls anymore (the job has been passed to Hasbro). Anyways, I mean no offense to Descendants fans at all, just trying to provide my thoughts on the matter because Ever After High was a great show and I’m still salty it was cancelled lol.
@Madness Arcade oh for sure! There are some very important distinctions between the two. However, all evidence really does support Descendants being created to compete with EAH. They’re both different and unique in their own way, but their history is also very interesting!
1st of all: loved the video! 2nd: honestly, I feel Audrey had every right to be mad. Not only did her boyfriend bring back the child of the person who nearly KILLED her mom ( that's the equivalent to your partner bringing your mother/fathers almost killers kid to your school, I'd be pissed too!) when he could've brought BACK ANY KIDS! Then, he spent time with Mal and kinda brushed Audrey off till he CONFESSED HIS LOVE TO MAL (while under a potion though no one knew so to Audrey it looked like he just publically broke up with her. Just to be clear, I'm not blame BEN). We don't know how long him and Audrey were together for but from the beginning, it sounded like it was awhile.
Audrey was with Ben for the status she never actually liked him Ben and mal had an instant connection He was only stolen because he wanted to be Don’t think u actually paid attention to the movie
Audrey tries to force Ben to marry her in D3 by threatening not to lift her curse on Auradon unless he does. This is before she turns him into a Beast. If the genders were swapped here Audrey wouldn't be as defended as he is by the fanbase.
Not to mention Audrey's grandmother was being so mean to her about the fact that she "couldn't keep a man" after all the emotional turmoil she already dealt with by being publicly broken up with. I don't like Audrey that much tbh (and I think Mal has WAY better chemistry with Ben), but I totally get why she turned villainous in the third movie. Ben and Mal both owed her a massive apology from the start, but they didn't give it to her until after she had already turned evil and then back to good again. Also, Queen of Mean totally slaps and justifies the decision to make Audrey a villain just for the song alone tbh.
@@theyoshifankid We've SEEN "if the genders were swapped", and what you're saying just isn't accurate. People defend men in real life doing much worse. A guy in my country burned his family alive, and people were legit saying "they deserved it". A woman and her children apparently deserved to burn. So, like, no. If it was the other way around, it would be received exactly the same way if not better.
Every time I try to say that I enjoy Descendants 2, I'm reminded of the talking dog... I get the purpose, but still lol. But seriously, I enjoy the franchise for the most part. It is what it is and rest in peace, Cameron Boyce.
“You have to have background knowledge on the Disney princesses” Actually earlier this year I watched all the Descendants movies but before I watched them, I watched literally ALL the Disney movies I knew they took characters from so I would know everyone 😂
It's even more funny when you know the original fairytales and some of their other versions (Since many fairytales are based on folktales, there are many slightly different versions of them in different countries. For example, Beauty and the Beast is French, but there is a German version with a bird instead of roses and the beast is a lion. A Norwegian version, where the beast is a bear and his stepmother cursed him, because he didn't want to marry a Troll woman) and watch Descendents after it.
I love the callback to their parents: Friendly reminder, looks like they lost my invention (Mal Line in the first song, Maleficent wasn't invented to Aurora's christening) that's brilliant to me. And the fact that Mal spells Ben because she wants to be loved, didn't Malificent just want a bit of love and acceptance like Mal does and Oma spells Ben makes so much sense because Vanessa (Ursula's Allis) did that with prince Eric, but obviously the main character Ariel wins and Mal the main character here wins. I think Mal bullying Jane is also great because she's bad in the first film. Jane should have become better friends with them in the 2nd movie.
Canadian here. About your bleachers comment, yes kids do usually hang under the bleachers but it’s normally to vape or smoke or some other stuff highschoolers aren’t meant to do on school property. As for the rest of us we usually hangout on-top of the bleachers and eat lunch.
okay no, the thing with Ben was explained. He didnt inherit his dad's ability to turn into a beast, Audrey curse him into a beast. Then Jane sprayed the enchanted Lake water on him, but it wasn't enough so it only washed away half the spell which is why he still had the beard and fangs. then at the end, everything goes back to normal so he loses the rest of his hair and fangs
There's a throwaway line in the second movie that Audrey is away at a spa with the three fairies getting over her breakup with Ben, but it's so briefly mentioned, you've had to have watched it a couple of times before you notice it tbh
One main thing I loved in the first one was evie’s relationship with her mom. While it was complicated, the evil queen really loved her daughter. Her cheering for Evie’s shoutout was one of my favorite parts. Things I would have changed or expanded on: Took out dude talking. Set up Audrey’s arc from the beginning. Show little interactions/dialogue between her and her grandmother throughout each film that will lead to something bigger. Than I would make her an antihero. She should have played a bugger role in the third film. Add more to Uma’s character. Have more of Jay and Gil. Show more of Evie and Doug’s relationship. Give Jane more development. I kind of shipped Uma with two characters. Either Harry or Ben. Audrey can have that fight with light and dark with Harry. Movie 4 anyone? So many things so little time.
And do Hades at least one time better than just making him a punchline villain :( Like ... give him reasons, why he acted like that with Hercules and with Mel and her mother ... but made him the KIND OF nice dude he is in mythology (I mean ... in greek mythology he is one of the less fucked up gods, so ... kind of nice)
@@KaliqueClawthorne the literal question that is asked many times with hades in mythology, “is hades a villain or is he just doing his job?” I liked hades more in the “go the distance” novel because it stayed true to the disney hades and kept some of his personality and story from mythology. And why oh why do you mess with hades and persephone? That is one of the most beautiful yet tragic stories of all time.
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 I know. It's a nice live story. That's why I really don't liked the idea of Hades and Mals mother. I don't even read this weird disney villain novels. I love villains with good background storues but that doesn't mean there should be somehow this twist of "once they were good" like with cruella for example. Based on the thought of the amount of fur used in fashion she isn't even really bad. Yeah, stealing dogs isn't good at all but that doesn't make her a big villain. Even the Maleficirnt thing wasto much for me. Gicing her this tragic love story background makes her more evil then "She wasn't invited by the modt powerful men just bwcause she is the 13th fairy and as a fairy she saw it as her right to curse a kid to live till the age of marriage and having kids. So it wasn't "I kill a baby" it was "I will kill someone who at that age will be considered worthless until ahe has kids. So I end the family line"
@@KaliqueClawthorne cruella was even more devious and sadistic in the book from what I heard in reviews of it. What I liked about Cruella live action was she wasn’t good but was not evil either. She was a sociopath and I liked how she stayed loyal to those who helped her and loved her. She only had a few people by her side. While it was subtle, I liked how they touched on the “who tells your story”. People make up rumors about her and she goes along with it. I think this is the setup for the sequel and we are going to see the Cruella we are familiar with. What makes her snap?
@@KaliqueClawthorne and I blame the original fairytales for the depiction of villains and the last sentence you said are poor products of the time they were written in. When it comes to adaptations, I like rewriting them because they are fictional characters. Why not change antiquated stereotypes and depictions?
i really liked this movie when it came out, because i was a kid, the first two are pretty good, the third is bad but i still watch it because nostalgia, but they’re like barbie movies in the sense that if you take them seriously then you can’t enjoy them, just don’t think about it and they’re great movies
"This is the thing we're gonna be criticized for most--complaining about the talking dog." Nah, mocking Dude post-truth-gummy is a hobby among Descendants fans. I liked him better before he could talk. Most people liked him better before he could talk. "I'm gonna be so upset if this is just about Hades and not Hades's son." WELL, he has a son named Hadie (yeah, I know) in the books, but Hadie never shows up in the movies. Okay, so Sarah Jeffery couldn't be in D2 due to scheduling conflicts, and Dianne Doan couldn't be in D3 due to scheduling conflicts. But I wish they would've put in a throwaway line for Lonnie in D3 like they did for Audrey in D2.
ahh, part of my teenage years. I liked the first one, as it had a decent plot. the second one was okay, but the music was really good! but for the third one honestly, by the time it came out, I was 19 and it was no longer catering to my age. But I and my sister watched it, not only to just finish the trilogy but since it was Camron Boyce's last movie before his passing, was the real reason we watched it. the songs were fine, the plot ehhh, but worth it just to see Camron act one more time.
Okay, but why would you give a sixteen-year-old boy a united kingdom? And also why would all monarchs in the entire kingdoms relinquish their titles just to one guy (the guy who apparently abdicates????)
Something interesting I think they should’ve done with the third one was actually include someone who’s the son of Hades Maybe he teams up with Audrey, or maybe he’s the one pulling the strings all along and influences Audrey to turn evil Or they could’ve done something cliché and have him be in a love triangle with Mal and Ben Literally any of that would’ve been better then what we got💀 I just don’t really like the idea of Mal being the daughter of Hades cause it makes her too OP At least that’s my opinion lol
what's so disappointing to me is that is IS a son of hades in the books! i honestly don't remember much of him, i only have the first book and skimmed the others, but it really annoyed me that they made mal hades's daughter. i dont remember if they ever said he was her father in any of the later books, but the first one made a big point of mal's dad being human, which made her mom see her as lesser/weaker and was why mal wanted to prove herself... and yeah your ideas are definitely better than the 3rd movie lmao
So hear me out: Seamus plays Twisted Wonderland once it gets its English release. It’s a similar premise to Descendants, but better. 👍 Also, I can’t believe you skipped over the Hades duet. It’s so fun!
This seems like the sort of franchise I would have *obsessed* over had it been released when I was a kid. On the one hand that hypothetical situation makes me cringe, but on the other hand I can relate to the kids who grew up with this series on some level.
If the Disney Sequel show hadn’t ended then this could easily be apart of it as these movies are technically Sequels to classic Disney movies, even if they are not cannon. Also Seamus you should now do a video on the Disney animated movies cannon as you’ve watched all the sequels to Disney movies that you could become not only the world’s leading expert on Disney sequels, but also the World’s leading expert on Disney continuity.
My favorite part is all the characters arcs like Carlos loving dogs, evie learning beauty isn't everything, and best of all Jay no longer looking for lamps
I'm glad you pointed out how wrong it was, how he breaks with Audrey. When I watch the movie I was so confused because, are we supposed to support him when he does that ? It is so insensitive. And everyone is ok with that, but when he did the same thing to Mal with Uma, somehow they are all shocked and don't agree and I'm wondering... why ?
i watched the third one with my mom and we were obsessed with the economic/culture impact aswell as the potential classism that would come with opening up the boarder.
this movie series had such a good concept and great potential but they kinda just bamboozled it a lot. we all agree the third one is not needed, but it had some good parts, my favourite being that they have tried to pair up jay with audrey in movie 1, but she left, so tey tried to pair him with lonnie in movie 2, but she also left so in movie 3 they were just like fuck it, let's pair him up with jay i don't care. but the good moments don,t outway the major flaws with the system like why only bring 4 kids at a time? and why open the barrier, isn't it supposed to be like a prison? the logic is oh anyone can be bad so let the criminals out? like no. i know its a dcom, but just the squandered potential
first of all: OMG, I FORGOT ABOUT LONNIE!!!!! WHY DIDN'T SHE COME BACK second: it was not supposed to be a prison, that's exactly what the movie is about? lol the kids are unfairly trapped in a place with no funds that perpetuates the myth that you are who your family is and that traps kids in the vicious cycle of violence and law-breaking because they don't really know how to live otherwise. that's the whole point of the movie.
@@hannalowercase5928 yes the whole island thing is unfaire, because they just put everyone there and give them nothing, the villains have had no trial, their sidekicks/minions have been put there as well even if their crimes are less, and the children were innocent and left there, so the whole system is too flawed and complicated for a dcom, so no matter what endng they did it was gonna be lackluster anyway
You the fun awesomeness about this movie is how literally you notice different details with each walk through like how all of Mal’s outfits are dragon scaled and have dragon wing details.
Also something I question is how Milan’s daughters hair in the hair changing scene went from black to brown instead of staying her natural hair color….
Seamus, I was told by nearly every guy in my classes "I did like you, but you're just soo smart." Then they walked away. So yes, high school boys will become unattracted to girls who they think are "too smart"
Movie 1 lives up to the hype. Movie 2 has the best music. Movie three went dark but they combined too many storylines in one film. They could have taken a couple of the songs and narrowed their focus down. Also, the villains like Uma and Harry can still be grey without them switching to one side all together. I felt they just did a 180 with them too quickly. I like what they did with Hades’s character. I felt bad for him because he did not deserve the punishment he got. His point at the end was valid.
The biggest wasted potential to me was word building. Instead of focusing on one castle that's a school, they should've shown us different kingdoms in every Disney movie or more of Auroden. I know the budget isn't enough but it would've been nice. Also if Disney Hades exists then doesn't it mean Disney Zeus exists also? Which would make more sense for Hercules to rule over the kingdom than Ben since it seems they're the most powerful family. Also shouldn't some royal families have some grudges against the children of their villains or make them the ones who don't want any of the Lost Isle children coming to Auroden. You can't be telling me Ben's Family is the only family governing this school. Also I would've liked it if they focus more on Ben being a king since it has many responsibilities and after Descendants 1, the public should been negative about Mal's and his relationship or should create tension between his family and Auroa (Sleeping Beauty) family. Maybe Ben's and his ex girlfriend were arranged to be together. It would've been interesting to see that in Descendants. One last thing, how's Fairy Godmother's barrier stronger than Hades? Actually, how did he get there? If it was Zeus's barrier then it'd make more sense.
Kenny Ortega (director of HSM and Descendants) also directed a show on Netflix called Julie and The Phantoms. You guys should check it out. Booboo Stewart (Jay) and Jadah Marie (Celia Facilier) are in the series playing characters “Willie” and “Flynn”.
Hey Seamus you have been reminding me of Dylan is in trouble even down to the light at the back. Don’t worry it’s a good thing I think you are moving in the right direction and your content recently has been very enjoyable
Honestly, the Joke's on Audrey. Ben fell in love with Mal because she baked and fed him cookies. So turning her into a grandma seems counterproductive here.
Funny thing actually: there are books that play in between the movies. It's been a while since I read them but I remember there being a school at auradon, mal and ben dreaming of each other(before they knew each other, that was actually the reason why Ben said they have to come to Auradon). Oh also Evie was homeschooled until like a few months before they came to auradon, Mal and Jay were friends a long time before all that and Evie and Carlos just kinda became a part of it. They also go to neverland and other kingdoms in the books. Yeah a lot of things git explained in the books, maybe you can make a video about it, I know I'm half a year late but maybe. Edit: Mulans daughter(I think she was called loonie) did an exchange year or something like that I think.
I love how after Uma's song about what her name is he said they couldn't be more clear about what her name is but when I showed this movie to my poor tired clueless mum she said NOT JOKING SHE WAS COMPLETELY SERIOUS "So but what is her name?"
These 2 movies are great, the second one is personally my favourite. I honestly think they could've you a trilogy out of these movies, such a shame they stopped after the second
I'm pretty sure part of the reason the 3rd one was so rough is bc they were unable to reshoot some group numbers/scenes due to the actor who played Carlos' passing. That could be a myth though.
American high school student here: I can only imagine that people would do drugs under the bleachers, there are just so many better places to hang out in 🤷♀️
Hey Seamus! If you don't like Descendants, you can always watch a much better version of the fairytale children in school by Mattel. It's called Ever After High, its speculated that Descendants was one of the reasons why it got canceled, its all on youtube and Netflix, regular show episodes and special movies, and it's really good for a kid show about fairytale children going to basically high school.
I must ask if The Beast and Fairy Godmother can get villains from different time periods and have discovered time travel, then why haven’t they done stuff like stop Hitler from rising up in the future?
@@madnessarcade7447 i don’t understand why you’re so upset over people not liking a literal children’s (that’s the target age range, you can still watch it, in your own words “disney is for all ages”, and i agree) movie. it’s not a big deal. you need to calm down about this.
I just realized the dynamic between Seamus and Vegard is pretty much exactly the same as me and my bestie so thanks for this moment of self-reflection...
I watched all the descendants movies as they came out I was around 12 when the first one released and at the time it was great for a Disney movie. I personally prefer 2&3 and most of us were waiting for a 4th but due to Cameron’s passing(Carlos) it became quite obvious to most that the story wouldn’t continue. We were all hoping for the 4th to explore the main characters more especially considering Mal is part god They did come out with a 22mins short called descendants the royal wedding which is about mal&bens wedding, hades returns, it had a little moment for Cameron at the end mal says something along the lines of “it’s our happy ending for us,but another story has just begun for someone else” this then pans to some white roses painted red and then a rabbit hole We have had no information about that
28:45 Lol, I didn't know she said that (I also never watched the movies though). She's my favorite character for only this reason. Also because "Queen Of Mean"
It has only now occurred to me that since Hades is Mal's father, that makes her a demigod. But she has no cool demigod powers so that's such a lost opportunity lol.
literally vegard cut out all the bits of me talking about demigods unfortunately :(
@@SeamusGorman4 Noooo 😭😭😭 why, vegard? 😔
TRUE! Technically she’s a half fairy demigod, with just spell book magic?? C’MON Disney…
Seriously. It makes me laugh because like, the drastic difference between Her and Nico from pjo is great.
@@emmas.m Exactly what I was thinking! Glad to see another pjo fan here
“I just thought it was a bunch of people with colorful hair having a good time”
I wish the story stayed in that direction
I don’t think that they were ever really having a good time though
@@theplaidbutterflyprince in the garbage opening song of them stealing with a blatant disregard for public property, I think they were kinda enjoying life a little bit.
@@papapalpy true true
Descendants is a rip off of Ever After High.
@@KittyOfChess you have at least 5 comments on this video and all of them have Ever After High in the sentence
I don’t think Disney realized just how well this series was gonna kick off. Hence the low budget.
They still had the budget to get Kristen Chenoweth and Kathy Najimy
@@Steveofthejungle8 and a Burger King crown for the king
It's Disney Channel, the main Disney always gives it the smallest budget compared to its other studios.
They keep doing my man Kenny Ortega dirty on his early projects, they should just know every project of his is gonna pop off tbh 💯 😂😂 man is an icon
@@lamplol7120 the crown wasn’t that bad it looked good enough for the budget they had don’t be a jerk
seamus taking so much pride in predicting the plot of a kid's movie is the funniest but most relatable thing ever.
edit: a family film with a target audience of 8+ enjoyable to all ages
Calling it a kids movie alienates the adult fans
It’s an ALL AGES movie
@@madnessarcade7447 you have my respect
@@SeamusGorman4 thank you I’m honored
@@SeamusGorman4 wish u responded to my other comments but I’m honored u did at all
@@SeamusGorman4 This movie is a rip off of Ever After High. Please watch the original
There are so many things about descendants I don't like, but the main one is: You made a sixteen year old boy a king while the dad was still alive? Also, why would you trust the kids of villains after they'd been locked away and influenced by their parents for years?
✨plot convenience✨
I love descendants but like that always made me think…. Say what
It’s their property their rules
Exactly, if they want to give kids a better chance, they could take like toddlers.
I mean most people clearly didn't trust them. Ben just overrode the people who disagreed.
I’ll say this:
Best Plot - Descendants 1
Best soundtrack - Descendants 2
Wasn’t needed - Descendants 3
Overall, the second one is my favorite
Descendants caters more to younger audiences where as HSM can be for all ages with its dialogue and acting. I prefer HSM over Descendants.
Weird how for me,d3 has the best soundtrack, d2 has the best plot and descendants is like decent in both aspects.
@@sylvy16 the first had a really good songs too
Descendants 3 is very important and it charts a new direction for the franchise so many potential storylines
All Disney is all ages
So true
I feel like the idea of descendents was much more cool than the actual movies. I remember being extremely excited for the first one, but then I was disappointed by it
you should try ever after high. it’s the same idea but much better
@@yoitsme5640 yup yup yup and once again yup
My biggest grip with this movie (other than ending Ever After) was that the villain kids don’t actually do anything evil? Especially in the first half?? They have this big moment where they are like “we are done being good” but like nothing about their behavior changes?? And all the “chaos” they do cause is forgiven or forgotten by the end so it doesn’t even make sense.
Pretty sure it's based off of a book or something like that. If I remember correctly Frollo had a kid in that one, which has some really messed up connotations.
just watch ever after high its so much better
Fun fact.
The dog in descendants is actually the same dog they use in Cruela. I read on line that it was a tribute to Cameron Boyce.
Wait that’s so actually so strange considering one’s a Disney channel movie and Cruella is an actual Disney movie
That’s amazing 🥺🤧
im actually gonna cry thats so sweet
That’s wholesome
Literally look at the dogs. They’re not the same.
Fun fact: I cannot tell you where this is set BUT I can tell you where it was filmed: the castle is about 5 minutes down the road from where I live and it’s a local university here in Canada! They also filmed Arrow, Smallville, and some of the xmen movies (and Deadpool) here. It was really cool getting to watch them film the movies here then seeing them get so popular.
WTH, that's sooo cool I'd love to have a party fact like that, make you cool too
Toronto
@@madnessarcade7447 Vancouver island actually! The other castle they used for xmen is in Toronto I think
@@Jessie_ann oh cool
Or in the case if this film, just getting to watch them film the movie lol
“Do people actually hang under the bleachers?”
Mostly just the stoner kids. But a lot of teens in late 90s and early - mid 00’s would use it as the make out spot
Descendants is like that one movie that your younger sister gets really into for like a week, and she buys a binder and a pencil case or whatever with the brand slapped on it, but then loses interest and abandons her plan to dress up as Evie for Halloween. Or is that just my perspective?
It is that but not just a week it is more like 5 years
Speaking at a 37 year old woman I legit live this series and it’s the one movie my 17 year old son will always agree to watch with me. 😂
Nah it has a lot of die hard fans
@@CherryCella true
That's literally what happened with my sister. Are you stalking me???
Just imagine if Hades' son really was in the film lmao, just Nico DiAngelo rocks up to the castle like "what up ya'll"
Yes then he can summon the dead with happy meals and freak everyone out
Nico, Hazel and Zagreus roll up in a limousine driven by a zombie chauffeur, mcDonalds poppin
They can have hades's son and mal why aren't they doing this
I-
that would have made the movies so much better
The thing about the 3rd one that feels the weirdest is that Ben and Mal are engaged while Evie and Doug didn't even have their first kiss yet and that's so weird because they've been coupled up the same amount of time.
Also, I get why she would give the kids from the isle a chance as well as making the situation on the isle better as a whole, but why would all the villains be forgiven, some of them for murder or attempted murder, kidnapping etc.?
Also also, to answer your question: Auredon is the united kingdom of all places of all the Disney movies (completly ignoring time differences, whether they were set in the real world or a fairy tale land etc.) and they are specifically in the part where Beauty and the Beast took place (even if this makes no sense, cause the beast's castle was not near the ocean). Since most of the kids are royalty, I supposed that the royal status' of the original movies remained and the Beast became sort of an emporer over all of them
"I supposed that the royal status.... and the Beast became a sort of emperor"
That is the ONLY way I can see any of this working out, honestly. Because like, why would all the other kings and queens agree to just give up their power to one couple, because they said so? That is wildly awful leadership. Every single leader really just turned their backs on their people and said "you belong to this guy, now"? Really?
I thought Evie and Doug had already kissed, but the big deal was seeing if it was true love
As I said, straight out of a fanfic
@@avenus_624 exactly, i don't know why they said that. they definitely had kissed, they just hadn't had the true love dilemma yet.
@hanna @Avenus_6 I'm sorry, I meant Evie and Doug hadn't said "I love you" yet. The problem is still the same, because saying "I love you" should come way before engagement and it doesn't make sense that two couples who came together at approximately the same time would be this far appart in their relationships
“Villain songs are always better than… good people songs”
- Seamus Gorman
Another continuity error I have just noticed is in the second movie the dog is able to talk on the Isles but in the third movie and all the movies they say that magic doesn’t work there. In the third one Mal gets cursed and it breaks when she goes to the Isles but somehow the magic of the dog talking still works there. I guess it all depends on how convenient it is for the plot
One continuity error between the books and movies, Mal apparently dated Harry before Ben, so Evie's comment is wrong. However, they were both in the works at the same time, so someone at Disney should be held responsible for the discontinuity.
Yes! Another thing that always bothered me was that Maleficent gives Mal the spell book because "it doesn't work here...but it will in Auradon." But then in Descendants 2 Uma uses it to escape and spell Ben. And if magic doesn't work there, why does Uma want Fairy Godmother's wand?? It wouldn't work anyway!
In this scene 27:50 from the 3rd movie they specifically say “EVIL magic doesn’t work here”. So technically the dog being able to talk on the island while the old age spell being reversed is not a continuity error, anymore.
Though, that’s most likely a retcon to fix the error they caused in the second movie.
@@_LunarDragon True. After I wrote it I was like would the dog being able to talk technically be evil magic bc if I remember correctly Mal was going to use it on Ben to get him to tell the truth which depending on the reasons and stuff it could possibly be seen as evil magic
@@emilyswartz6941 Ya ur right. The wand wouldn’t have worked anyway so they didn’t need to make a 3D model of it and have the dog talk. Uma’s plan isn’t the smartest it should have been bring someone who can the gate and the wand
29:22 pretty sure that’s exactly why audrey wasn’t in the second one 😭
also, there’s a scene with the director at the end of the third one where the ‘you didn’t think this was the end of the story did you’ line appears again - but they cut it for disney+ release because plans for a fourth one were cancelled after cameron boyce - carlos - passed away
I don't think that scene was on the Disney Channel release either. He died before the release date, and I don't remember it when I watched on tv
@@anaisabelpais7389 i remember seeing it the first time i watched it, but i could be wrong 🤷♀️
@@anaisabelpais7389 i saw it when my younger siblings forced me to watch it, the did you think it was the end of the story made me think, “how are they going to do that?”
Actually they weren’t canceled Disney channel announced a 4th and a 5th
Kenny probably won’t direct those tho
@@elsielaurenn This is not the end of descendants lore we were guaranteed there will be more
it sounds like there could be more on the way. Gary Marsh, president and chief creative officer of Disney Branded Television, said in a statement, “Descendants introduced a fantasy world of stories and characters, anchored in Disney mythology. … It had the benefit of immensely talented stars, who we now welcome back for this animated Royal Wedding special that will bridge the audience to what we hope will be a new chapter of compelling Descendants stories and characters yet to come.”
As a person who watched both as they were coming out, I still think Ever After High is better…
same, it’s a blatant rip-off of the idea
YES
Me too also was disney stole the idea of the children of fairy tail characters from mattel and yet the reason Ever after high got canceled was because descendants was more popular
As a person who was only recently gotten into the clone high series, ever after high is what clone high should have been. A story about the teenaged descendants of icons that meditates upon the idea of nature vs nurture. Story the teachers people that just because the world says what you will do with your life, that doesn't necessarily mean you have to do it. You can be whatever you wish to be. The soap operatic Dawson's Creek style love-triangle ruined clone high for me. But then, that's my opinion.
Could not agree more
they were actually going to make a 4th one, but the actor who played carlos (cameron boyce) passed away just before the 3rd film was released so they cut the “you didn’t think that was the end of the story, did you?” part and weren’t gonna be doing another one. although they have recently teased at a D4 but i don’t think it’ll be about the main 4- might shift the focus onto like Dizzy or Celia maybe x
I think it’s stupid when people make the decision to end a production because an actor died. The Carlos character didn’t anything anyways so no real loss storywise. Obviously real life wise, very tragic and sad what happened to Cameron. His poor parents
@@4everbuffylover yeah i agree, but i wonder if maybe the other actors didn’t want to carry on with it after he died? bc they were all really close and it would probably not have been the same without him
@@4everbuffylover
Yes, but for something like this, where it's one of the main characters, it feels extremely disrespectful to have the other three and then just give an excuse for why he's not there.
Actually before Cam died they said there was never gonna be a 4th one
@@randomtraveler4149 This. I just can’t see it working out in any way
As an American, here's my thoughts on the bleachers:
1. One time at a football game my friend dropped her phone and we had to go under the bleachers to get it. Nobody else was under there, so clearly it's not like a place people go while they're at the game.
2. I actually can understand the appeal and I'm surprised people don't sit under there. It's like a fun little hiding spot.
3. In most of the media I see people go meet under the bleachers to hook up (or just to talk if it's a Disney movie) in the middle of the school day while nobody else is there. I have no idea if people really do this. I doubt it bc if you're already sneaking out to go to the football field you might as well just leave. Or sit in your car.
American: Nobody hangs out under bleachers. It’s very rare for people to hang out on campus unless for a club or sport or something. I knew a few people that would hang out on playgrounds, but that’s it. That’s just at my school though. Feel free to inform me of your experience
I think it's cause aurdon is like a boarding school
I'm American too but at my school they had it where you couldn't even get behind/under the bleachers. If people were at the bleachers talking, it was usually just because they were waiting on a bell (they didn't even sit on the bleachers, they would just stand in it's vicinity instead). Thanks for listening to my tedtalk
at my school people hung out under the bleachers lol. only really during the school day or like after school, but yeah they did. but it was only really a school hangout spot, yk what i mean?
at my school people do coke under the bleachers lol
I went to a K-12 school in the US and we only hung out under the bleachers at sporting events, and generally it was the elementary and middle schoolers, not high schoolers.
"How does Ursula have sex?" Have you never heard of tentacle p---?
"Who has sex with Ursula?" 1) If it exists, it's someone's kink. 2) Remember when we all first went into lockdown, and after a month, people were like, "Hey does anyone think the evil guy from Mulan is kinda fine?" That's basically what happened with the Isle residents. They got stuck there and it screwed up their attraction.
I am pretty sure she has a human form? right? she is a sea-witch, I am sure she can shape-shift
Oh noes
You’re telling people thought the evil guy in mulan was “fine” wtf
Yeah but can't Ursula just transform into a normal human? She's a witch and she did that in the original Ariel movie, she transformed into a human so she could date the prince or whatever
@@oof9762 She COULD, but where’s the fun in that?
The thing about Descendants is that it is a blatant knock-off of Mattel’s show Ever After High, which was also about the children of famous fairytale characters and involved conflict between villain children and and royal children You have to know a fair bit of Mattel history to fully understand everything, but at the time Ever After High was released, Disney got upset because Mattel was resigning from making Disney Princess dolls in order to focus on this new show and to sever ties with Disney interpretations of famous fairytales. While Descendants had a slightly different focus, Ever After High was created first and there are many similarities between the two (in terms of dialogue, character design, character choices, storylines, etc), showing how Disney wanted to upstage EAH. It was a shame, because Ever After High was a great show, but unfortunately it was cancelled due to the release of Descendants (2, I think, but I could be wrong) at a very bad time and the show/doll line’s budget got smaller and smaller due to Disney’s competition, effectively ruining the show. This is also the reason that Mattel doesn’t make Disney Princess dolls anymore (the job has been passed to Hasbro). Anyways, I mean no offense to Descendants fans at all, just trying to provide my thoughts on the matter because Ever After High was a great show and I’m still salty it was cancelled lol.
Not really
Descendants has a larger universe and does things in a very different way
EAH isn’t a musical nor is it live action
Also EAH was a series and descendants is a movie
Not really descendants does a lot of thing differently
@Madness Arcade oh for sure! There are some very important distinctions between the two. However, all evidence really does support Descendants being created to compete with EAH. They’re both different and unique in their own way, but their history is also very interesting!
Hopefully they bring back Ever After High. They're rebooting Monster High (again) in 2022, so maybe if that does good, they might bring EAH back too.
i wish they did more with mal being an artist. it would be cool if we could see her in art class or see her make posters for events or something
You also did not mention how the wedding proposal was literally the word from the song from the first one which was just awesome IMO
1st of all: loved the video!
2nd: honestly, I feel Audrey had every right to be mad.
Not only did her boyfriend bring back the child of the person who nearly KILLED her mom ( that's the equivalent to your partner bringing your mother/fathers almost killers kid to your school, I'd be pissed too!) when he could've brought BACK ANY KIDS! Then, he spent time with Mal and kinda brushed Audrey off till he CONFESSED HIS LOVE TO MAL (while under a potion though no one knew so to Audrey it looked like he just publically broke up with her. Just to be clear, I'm not blame BEN).
We don't know how long him and Audrey were together for but from the beginning, it sounded like it was awhile.
Audrey was with Ben for the status she never actually liked him
Ben and mal had an instant connection
He was only stolen because he wanted to be
Don’t think u actually paid attention to the movie
If Ben stayed with Audrey it would have been toxic and loveless he would have been miserable
Audrey tries to force Ben to marry her in D3 by threatening not to lift her curse on Auradon unless he does. This is before she turns him into a Beast. If the genders were swapped here Audrey wouldn't be as defended as he is by the fanbase.
Not to mention Audrey's grandmother was being so mean to her about the fact that she "couldn't keep a man" after all the emotional turmoil she already dealt with by being publicly broken up with. I don't like Audrey that much tbh (and I think Mal has WAY better chemistry with Ben), but I totally get why she turned villainous in the third movie. Ben and Mal both owed her a massive apology from the start, but they didn't give it to her until after she had already turned evil and then back to good again. Also, Queen of Mean totally slaps and justifies the decision to make Audrey a villain just for the song alone tbh.
@@theyoshifankid We've SEEN "if the genders were swapped", and what you're saying just isn't accurate. People defend men in real life doing much worse. A guy in my country burned his family alive, and people were legit saying "they deserved it". A woman and her children apparently deserved to burn.
So, like, no. If it was the other way around, it would be received exactly the same way if not better.
Every time I try to say that I enjoy Descendants 2, I'm reminded of the talking dog... I get the purpose, but still lol.
But seriously, I enjoy the franchise for the most part. It is what it is and rest in peace, Cameron Boyce.
100th like. 👍
They don’t just “hang” under bleachers if you get what I mean. Usually it’s for “reasons”
“You have to have background knowledge on the Disney princesses”
Actually earlier this year I watched all the Descendants movies but before I watched them, I watched literally ALL the Disney movies I knew they took characters from so I would know everyone 😂
That sounds like something I would do
And they miscast Kirsten Chenoweth as Maleficent in the first film! They should've at least tried!
It's even more funny when you know the original fairytales and some of their other versions (Since many fairytales are based on folktales, there are many slightly different versions of them in different countries. For example, Beauty and the Beast is French, but there is a German version with a bird instead of roses and the beast is a lion. A Norwegian version, where the beast is a bear and his stepmother cursed him, because he didn't want to marry a Troll woman)
and watch Descendents after it.
I love the callback to their parents: Friendly reminder, looks like they lost my invention (Mal Line in the first song, Maleficent wasn't invented to Aurora's christening) that's brilliant to me. And the fact that Mal spells Ben because she wants to be loved, didn't Malificent just want a bit of love and acceptance like Mal does and Oma spells Ben makes so much sense because Vanessa (Ursula's Allis) did that with prince Eric, but obviously the main character Ariel wins and Mal the main character here wins. I think Mal bullying Jane is also great because she's bad in the first film. Jane should have become better friends with them in the 2nd movie.
My long-standing opinion on this series is that, as much as I enjoy a lot of the music & choreography, it has a much stronger premise than execution
Canadian here.
About your bleachers comment, yes kids do usually hang under the bleachers but it’s normally to vape or smoke or some other stuff highschoolers aren’t meant to do on school property.
As for the rest of us we usually hangout on-top of the bleachers and eat lunch.
okay no, the thing with Ben was explained. He didnt inherit his dad's ability to turn into a beast, Audrey curse him into a beast. Then Jane sprayed the enchanted Lake water on him, but it wasn't enough so it only washed away half the spell which is why he still had the beard and fangs. then at the end, everything goes back to normal so he loses the rest of his hair and fangs
There's a throwaway line in the second movie that Audrey is away at a spa with the three fairies getting over her breakup with Ben, but it's so briefly mentioned, you've had to have watched it a couple of times before you notice it tbh
One main thing I loved in the first one was evie’s relationship with her mom. While it was complicated, the evil queen really loved her daughter. Her cheering for Evie’s shoutout was one of my favorite parts.
Things I would have changed or expanded on:
Took out dude talking.
Set up Audrey’s arc from the beginning. Show little interactions/dialogue between her and her grandmother throughout each film that will lead to something bigger. Than I would make her an antihero. She should have played a bugger role in the third film.
Add more to Uma’s character.
Have more of Jay and Gil.
Show more of Evie and Doug’s relationship.
Give Jane more development.
I kind of shipped Uma with two characters. Either Harry or Ben.
Audrey can have that fight with light and dark with Harry. Movie 4 anyone?
So many things so little time.
And do Hades at least one time better than just making him a punchline villain :(
Like ... give him reasons, why he acted like that with Hercules and with Mel and her mother ... but made him the KIND OF nice dude he is in mythology (I mean ... in greek mythology he is one of the less fucked up gods, so ... kind of nice)
@@KaliqueClawthorne the literal question that is asked many times with hades in mythology, “is hades a villain or is he just doing his job?”
I liked hades more in the “go the distance” novel because it stayed true to the disney hades and kept some of his personality and story from mythology.
And why oh why do you mess with hades and persephone? That is one of the most beautiful yet tragic stories of all time.
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 I know. It's a nice live story. That's why I really don't liked the idea of Hades and Mals mother.
I don't even read this weird disney villain novels. I love villains with good background storues but that doesn't mean there should be somehow this twist of "once they were good" like with cruella for example. Based on the thought of the amount of fur used in fashion she isn't even really bad.
Yeah, stealing dogs isn't good at all but that doesn't make her a big villain.
Even the Maleficirnt thing wasto much for me.
Gicing her this tragic love story background makes her more evil then
"She wasn't invited by the modt powerful men just bwcause she is the 13th fairy and as a fairy she saw it as her right to curse a kid to live till the age of marriage and having kids. So it wasn't "I kill a baby" it was "I will kill someone who at that age will be considered worthless until ahe has kids. So I end the family line"
@@KaliqueClawthorne cruella was even more devious and sadistic in the book from what I heard in reviews of it.
What I liked about Cruella live action was she wasn’t good but was not evil either. She was a sociopath and I liked how she stayed loyal to those who helped her and loved her. She only had a few people by her side.
While it was subtle, I liked how they touched on the “who tells your story”. People make up rumors about her and she goes along with it.
I think this is the setup for the sequel and we are going to see the Cruella we are familiar with. What makes her snap?
@@KaliqueClawthorne and I blame the original fairytales for the depiction of villains and the last sentence you said are poor products of the time they were written in.
When it comes to adaptations, I like rewriting them because they are fictional characters. Why not change antiquated stereotypes and depictions?
i really liked this movie when it came out, because i was a kid, the first two are pretty good, the third is bad but i still watch it because nostalgia, but they’re like barbie movies in the sense that if you take them seriously then you can’t enjoy them, just don’t think about it and they’re great movies
"This is the thing we're gonna be criticized for most--complaining about the talking dog." Nah, mocking Dude post-truth-gummy is a hobby among Descendants fans. I liked him better before he could talk. Most people liked him better before he could talk.
"I'm gonna be so upset if this is just about Hades and not Hades's son." WELL, he has a son named Hadie (yeah, I know) in the books, but Hadie never shows up in the movies.
Okay, so Sarah Jeffery couldn't be in D2 due to scheduling conflicts, and Dianne Doan couldn't be in D3 due to scheduling conflicts. But I wish they would've put in a throwaway line for Lonnie in D3 like they did for Audrey in D2.
I would have been more cool. If Nico and Hazel were in the series.
ahh, part of my teenage years.
I liked the first one, as it had a decent plot. the second one was okay, but the music was really good! but for the third one honestly, by the time it came out, I was 19 and it was no longer catering to my age. But I and my sister watched it, not only to just finish the trilogy but since it was Camron Boyce's last movie before his passing, was the real reason we watched it. the songs were fine, the plot ehhh, but worth it just to see Camron act one more time.
It took me this long to realize that Audrey has pink and blue hair because of the pink and blue dress thing they did in Sleeping Beauty, I can't-
I love that the in-universe sport is basically just hurling with added murder. Cu Chulain would be proud.
The fact that Seamus was more enthusiastic in the hello fresh ad then the 3rd movie says a lot about the movie
Okay, but why would you give a sixteen-year-old boy a united kingdom? And also why would all monarchs in the entire kingdoms relinquish their titles just to one guy (the guy who apparently abdicates????)
Something interesting I think they should’ve done with the third one was actually include someone who’s the son of Hades
Maybe he teams up with Audrey, or maybe he’s the one pulling the strings all along and influences Audrey to turn evil
Or they could’ve done something cliché and have him be in a love triangle with Mal and Ben
Literally any of that would’ve been better then what we got💀
I just don’t really like the idea of Mal being the daughter of Hades cause it makes her too OP
At least that’s my opinion lol
what's so disappointing to me is that is IS a son of hades in the books! i honestly don't remember much of him, i only have the first book and skimmed the others, but it really annoyed me that they made mal hades's daughter. i dont remember if they ever said he was her father in any of the later books, but the first one made a big point of mal's dad being human, which made her mom see her as lesser/weaker and was why mal wanted to prove herself...
and yeah your ideas are definitely better than the 3rd movie lmao
i hope you mean (for the love triangle) Hades’ son would be in love with Ben cause if he was in love with Mal then 💀
I love the DCOM journey you’re going on! Might I recommend the Cheetah Girls trilogy?
I’m really hoping he gets to those too!
Love the Cheetah Girls! 💜🧡💖🐆
I love the cheetah girls
Watching Seamus and Vegard watch movies may genuinely be my favorite thing ever
"Opening with the classic... iPad?" -Seamus
So hear me out: Seamus plays Twisted Wonderland once it gets its English release. It’s a similar premise to Descendants, but better. 👍
Also, I can’t believe you skipped over the Hades duet. It’s so fun!
This seems like the sort of franchise I would have *obsessed* over had it been released when I was a kid. On the one hand that hypothetical situation makes me cringe, but on the other hand I can relate to the kids who grew up with this series on some level.
If the Disney Sequel show hadn’t ended then this could easily be apart of it as these movies are technically Sequels to classic Disney movies, even if they are not cannon. Also Seamus you should now do a video on the Disney animated movies cannon as you’ve watched all the sequels to Disney movies that you could become not only the world’s leading expert on Disney sequels, but also the World’s leading expert on Disney continuity.
My favorite part is all the characters arcs like Carlos loving dogs, evie learning beauty isn't everything, and best of all Jay no longer looking for lamps
"She hates her, I love this" is my favourite Seamus quote
I'm glad you pointed out how wrong it was, how he breaks with Audrey. When I watch the movie I was so confused because, are we supposed to support him when he does that ? It is so insensitive. And everyone is ok with that, but when he did the same thing to Mal with Uma, somehow they are all shocked and don't agree and I'm wondering... why ?
i watched the third one with my mom and we were obsessed with the economic/culture impact aswell as the potential classism that would come with opening up the boarder.
3 days later and Genie Jafar has destroyed the entire world
The fact that you didn’t comment on how everyone was magically dry after dancing in the water has me questioning your observation skills.
this movie series had such a good concept and great potential but they kinda just bamboozled it a lot. we all agree the third one is not needed, but it had some good parts, my favourite being that they have tried to pair up jay with audrey in movie 1, but she left, so tey tried to pair him with lonnie in movie 2, but she also left so in movie 3 they were just like fuck it, let's pair him up with jay i don't care. but the good moments don,t outway the major flaws with the system like why only bring 4 kids at a time? and why open the barrier, isn't it supposed to be like a prison? the logic is oh anyone can be bad so let the criminals out? like no. i know its a dcom, but just the squandered potential
first of all: OMG, I FORGOT ABOUT LONNIE!!!!! WHY DIDN'T SHE COME BACK
second: it was not supposed to be a prison, that's exactly what the movie is about? lol the kids are unfairly trapped in a place with no funds that perpetuates the myth that you are who your family is and that traps kids in the vicious cycle of violence and law-breaking because they don't really know how to live otherwise. that's the whole point of the movie.
@@hannalowercase5928 yes the whole island thing is unfaire, because they just put everyone there and give them nothing, the villains have had no trial, their sidekicks/minions have been put there as well even if their crimes are less, and the children were innocent and left there, so the whole system is too flawed and complicated for a dcom, so no matter what endng they did it was gonna be lackluster anyway
You the fun awesomeness about this movie is how literally you notice different details with each walk through like how all of Mal’s outfits are dragon scaled and have dragon wing details.
Seamus: Girl married Prince, becomes a princess-
Me: So she’s not allowed to open curtains anymore!!
Also something I question is how Milan’s daughters hair in the hair changing scene went from black to brown instead of staying her natural hair color….
Seamus: Wow this is the final scene of the series!
Wait till he hears about Descendants: Royal Wedding
Seamus, I was told by nearly every guy in my classes "I did like you, but you're just soo smart." Then they walked away. So yes, high school boys will become unattracted to girls who they think are "too smart"
Movie 1 lives up to the hype.
Movie 2 has the best music.
Movie three went dark but they combined too many storylines in one film. They could have taken a couple of the songs and narrowed their focus down.
Also, the villains like Uma and Harry can still be grey without them switching to one side all together. I felt they just did a 180 with them too quickly.
I like what they did with Hades’s character. I felt bad for him because he did not deserve the punishment he got. His point at the end was valid.
i think the music for the third was the best, but it completely took away from the plot because of how hard they tried on the music.
Seamus how have you gone this long without watching this and not already had everything spoiled for you pre-watch.
tbf i’ve seen the first and third and this video and i STILL don’t know what happened in the second one. mal and ben break up? and like that’s it
The biggest wasted potential to me was word building. Instead of focusing on one castle that's a school, they should've shown us different kingdoms in every Disney movie or more of Auroden. I know the budget isn't enough but it would've been nice.
Also if Disney Hades exists then doesn't it mean Disney Zeus exists also? Which would make more sense for Hercules to rule over the kingdom than Ben since it seems they're the most powerful family.
Also shouldn't some royal families have some grudges against the children of their villains or make them the ones who don't want any of the Lost Isle children coming to Auroden. You can't be telling me Ben's Family is the only family governing this school.
Also I would've liked it if they focus more on Ben being a king since it has many responsibilities and after Descendants 1, the public should been negative about Mal's and his relationship or should create tension between his family and Auroa (Sleeping Beauty) family. Maybe Ben's and his ex girlfriend were arranged to be together. It would've been interesting to see that in Descendants.
One last thing, how's Fairy Godmother's barrier stronger than Hades? Actually, how did he get there? If it was Zeus's barrier then it'd make more sense.
Kenny Ortega (director of HSM and Descendants) also directed a show on Netflix called Julie and The Phantoms. You guys should check it out. Booboo Stewart (Jay) and Jadah Marie (Celia Facilier) are in the series playing characters “Willie” and “Flynn”.
rip to that show tho definitely deserved a second season
i am still so pissed over the fact that netflix cancelled the show
Hey Seamus you have been reminding me of Dylan is in trouble even down to the light at the back. Don’t worry it’s a good thing I think you are moving in the right direction and your content recently has been very enjoyable
I was just thinking that and commented something about the light change!
"Hades's son is in this"
Well I was looking for Nico the entire time and couldn't find him
The relationship’s in this film, particularly Jane and Carlos’s, are so inconsequential and have no real strain.
"Who starts an arm wrestle without knowing the consequences?"
That's the whole plot of Spider-Man No Way Home LOL
i am not proud to say that "if only" (mal's solo song in the first movie) used to be my favorite song
why not proud? it's an amazing song
Honestly, the Joke's on Audrey. Ben fell in love with Mal because she baked and fed him cookies. So turning her into a grandma seems counterproductive here.
Iconic really that Seamus forgot Ben’s name, only to guess his name from thinking about him being Belle and the Beast’s kid
Love your predictions. “He’s gonna stop looking for lamps.” 😂
I know there's a video here. But I can't help notice how Seamus's pants just blend with the couch lol
VEGARD LITERALLY SAID THIS WHEN WE STARTED FILMING
Funny thing actually: there are books that play in between the movies. It's been a while since I read them but I remember there being a school at auradon, mal and ben dreaming of each other(before they knew each other, that was actually the reason why Ben said they have to come to Auradon). Oh also Evie was homeschooled until like a few months before they came to auradon, Mal and Jay were friends a long time before all that and Evie and Carlos just kinda became a part of it. They also go to neverland and other kingdoms in the books. Yeah a lot of things git explained in the books, maybe you can make a video about it, I know I'm half a year late but maybe.
Edit: Mulans daughter(I think she was called loonie) did an exchange year or something like that I think.
“Take her with you! What is stopping you- other than kidnapping a child.”
Sir-
The isle of the lost tie in novels are pretty good i'd recommended checking at least the first one out.
I love how after Uma's song about what her name is he said they couldn't be more clear about what her name is but when I showed this movie to my poor tired clueless mum she said NOT JOKING SHE WAS COMPLETELY SERIOUS
"So but what is her name?"
5:51 people don't hang under bleachers unless they are making out at football games for their highschool or if they are dealing drugs
These 2 movies are great, the second one is personally my favourite.
I honestly think they could've you a trilogy out of these movies, such a shame they stopped after the second
4:46 I'm pretty sure they thought that their parents had been killed and stuffed, thats why they were so shocked 💀
I'm pretty sure part of the reason the 3rd one was so rough is bc they were unable to reshoot some group numbers/scenes due to the actor who played Carlos' passing. That could be a myth though.
American high school student here: I can only imagine that people would do drugs under the bleachers, there are just so many better places to hang out in 🤷♀️
Will never forgive Descendants for killing Ever After High
Neither will I
@Kitty Cheshire same
Same here
“A bunch of people with colourful hair having a good time”
Tbh im surprised seamus didnt bring up the fact that the game that the boys were playing in descendants 1 was on just a constant loop
I noticed that too, I thought I was the one who noticed that. I was wondering, who else saw that.
Is anyone else confused, why maleficent's spell book has spells for getting cool hair and turning pb&j sandwiches into e full dinner?😂
Hey Seamus! If you don't like Descendants, you can always watch a much better version of the fairytale children in school by Mattel. It's called Ever After High, its speculated that Descendants was one of the reasons why it got canceled, its all on youtube and Netflix, regular show episodes and special movies, and it's really good for a kid show about fairytale children going to basically high school.
I must ask if The Beast and Fairy Godmother can get villains from different time periods and have discovered time travel, then why haven’t they done stuff like stop Hitler from rising up in the future?
because they live in Disney worlds, and not our world, duh
Love the descendants it's so cringy and fun 😆
Third one is pretty hard to get through though 😅
Wholesome not cringy
@@madnessarcade7447 i don’t understand why you’re so upset over people not liking a literal children’s (that’s the target age range, you can still watch it, in your own words “disney is for all ages”, and i agree) movie. it’s not a big deal. you need to calm down about this.
I just realized the dynamic between Seamus and Vegard is pretty much exactly the same as me and my bestie so thanks for this moment of self-reflection...
I watched all the descendants movies as they came out I was around 12 when the first one released and at the time it was great for a Disney movie.
I personally prefer 2&3 and most of us were waiting for a 4th but due to Cameron’s passing(Carlos) it became quite obvious to most that the story wouldn’t continue.
We were all hoping for the 4th to explore the main characters more especially considering Mal is part god
They did come out with a 22mins short called descendants the royal wedding which is about mal&bens wedding, hades returns, it had a little moment for Cameron
at the end mal says something along the lines of “it’s our happy ending for us,but another story has just begun for someone else” this then pans to some white roses painted red and then a rabbit hole
We have had no information about that
The only kids in American schools who hang out under the bleachers are the band kids during sports games to avoid getting food thrown at them
It’s stupid but I love it and there’s a heavy amount of nostalgia
You should watch Ever After High. It's better, and it's the original.
@@KittyOfChess I did and it was decent
@@KittyOfChess god i used to be obsessed with that. i had all the dolls lol
HEY I JUST SAW YOUR COMMENTS on a community post by someone about hating your recorded voice!
@@hannalowercase5928 I get that a lot
I want a Golden Girls style show about the washed up Disney Villains just living their lives while their kids are away.
“I don’t think she’ll turn evil i just think she’s mean”
Hunny your in for a big storm
Fair play to Seamus for knowing what hurling is. As an Irish subscriber I am pleasantly surprised.
“Wow this must’ve been what it was like when they knocked the Berlin Wall down”
DEAD
Watch Ever After High now, the original "What if fairy tale characters had children?"
Yessss
Should we start a campaign for him to watch EAH? It worked for Barbie.
That's funny that you uploaded this because I just finished watching the descendants trilogy for the first time too!
At my school the bleachers are inside and against a wall. So no one hangs out there
28:45
Lol, I didn't know she said that (I also never watched the movies though). She's my favorite character for only this reason. Also because "Queen Of Mean"
if you look closely, the same clip of the video game is just playing on loop the entire scene in the boy's dorm.