Lionel 120th LC Plus 2.0 Santa Fe F3 Set!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- The big pre-order item is here! The Lionel LC Plus 2.0 Santa Fe set. This set is modeled after the original postwar engines and rolling stock. In this video we’ll take a look at it! Seems to be a great addition to the Lionel and MTH o gauge layout!
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If interested in viewing the video on the original Postwar Santa Fe F3’s, it can be viewed here-
• Lionel Santa Fe F3’s!
I remember these trains from the 1950's. At that time I lived in Pensilvania and use to watch the steam and diesel trains go by. You never ever forget the sounds and smells.
Me too!!!
Amazing OLD O Guage track
Man those Santa Fe engines look amazing.
The F3 is such a classic, the most iconic model train ever built!
love the new set not a big fan of the red horns but still looks and sounds great
The SantaFe is the quintessential 1950s Lionel. If you don't have the originals, this set is a fine way to re-live the essence of Lionel in a by-gone era. Even the cars are good representations of the originals. I got a chuckle about the milk car ... yes, I have the original, and it too jams once in a while. The Auto Loader looks really fine.. Brings back the feeling of childhood in the 50s, with my Dad... bless his Spirit..
I would add those decals like you mentioned... that would be a nice addition to the new release locos.
My husband and I are disappointed that you were given a pa. And not a Santa Fe caboose. Great videos keep up the great work.😀
Lionel lines......
Pay no attention to the PRR look.......
I also love F3's and it all began with a set from my uncle of the Santa Fe diesels with silver passenger cars as a kid in the '50's with a train track loop under the annual Christmas tree! Colorful engines and cabooses are my favorites, so the Kansas City Southern F3's come in 2nd to the Santa Fe F3's. Pretty cool that you have the new and old matching sets!
Thank you Zach. I appreciate the shout out. I hope you enjoy your Lionel 120th anniversary set.
Absolutely Al! Thank you for all the great videos! Shouldn’t be too hard to enjoy! LOL take care
Looks pretty darn good and the sound set is an improvement for sure!
The sounds are excellent!
Very happy for you and thank you for sharing. As far as I'm concerned you can never have enough Sante Fe engines. Hahahaha
No such thing as too many Santa Fe’s!!! LOL thank you!
Those early versions are impressive Zack, you’ve got some nice ones. I just got a tiny LC+2.0 steamer, the features continue to amaze. She’ll grow on you. The new technology is impressive, with smooth running hardware, and the fit-and-finish are top notch. Congratz!
Thanks!! Congrats on the steamer!! I am pretty impressed with the LC 2.0 system. Seems to be a great runner, and love the sounds out of them. May have to look into some other LC 2 stuff in the future. Happy Railroading
WOW THAT SOUNDS GREAT MAN. I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOT ME ONE
Very nice set
Really nice set! I agree that the red is off, and I'm not fond of the white handrails on the nose, but wow, what an improvement in sound over the original LionChief+ offerings. I do think they hit a home run with the rolling stock. Thanks for the nice review, this is the first I've seen of the new 2.0 sets.
Thanks Rick! Glad you enjoyed it! Was hoping to get a video out on it ASAP. Figured a lot of people would be interested in it.
Awesome video. The train is
Amazing
Now that's a lethal weapon!! Love the unboxing video! I can see where you are coming from with the paint but i think the yellow strip up the middle of the nose makes up for it! Sounds great love the horn! Over all nice addition to the fleet Zac!!.......
Thanks Eric!! I am happy to have it! As said I can look past the red. Might do some “custom” stuff to it as mentioned. Happy Railroading!
I Love That Santa Fe Lionel Lionchief Set.
Just got the same set in on Wednesday and love it. This is my first Lionel purchase. My current trains are MTH RTR so I broke bad and purchased this Sanford Fe set.
She was a big purchase for sure! Glad to hear you are enjoying it!! I’ve been enjoying it as well.
I’ve got train set envy! 😂 Great set!!
Thanks Thomas!
I agree with you not felling the red! Maybe repaint them gloss red
Zack I think the set is really beautiful it’s actually nice that Lionell did not use the same exact color otherwise you’d have all your F 3 with the same colors. I think the design of adding the yellow stripe in the front makes the engine look sharp. I’m also excited to see that Lionell re issued some of their classic cars to this set. Enjoy Richard.
I like your comparison of the postwar engine and cars with the new ones. The trucks on the modern set appear to be sprung rather than bar end. Is this true?
Cool set! The red does leave much to be desired, however I agree the sounds do help make up for it
Thats a very nice set im really considering picking this up.
After researching old photos of many different Sante Fe diesels I feel Lionel got it right with the color.
I do believe the paint is prototypical to the real thing, just wish it matched the postwar Lionel engine it is replicating. Still looks great all the same.
Everything looking great really enjoyed the unboxing and glad you like the new purchase it fits in well when all the trains were going round take care 😀👍
Thanks Michael! Glad you enjoyed the video! Take care as well
Train layout is looking great cant wait to see what is next.
Thanks Arthur! Glad you are enjoying the channel.
A great looking set, now I feel like I need one. Thanks😀. You deserve a commission from Lionel.
Thanks Jeff! I hope you get one! It’s been a blast so far. Still waiting to hear from Lionel for that sponsorship! LOL
Very cool throwback set. Not my cup of tea, but Lionel did a great job of recreating a classic.
Hey Zach I want you to know I was already interested in the set. After your review I decided to pull the trigger on it. However I did get a significant eye roll from the girl. But she will get over it. I also love it and it looks damn good. I do however need a bigger space for the trains. Imagine that.
Too much space is never enough! LOL glad to hear you are enjoying it! It’s a great set for sure! Hopefully the misses can learn to love it! Thank you!
All in all, that's still a nice looking set! Enjoy!
I love your new lionel train set it awesome thought I think the older santa fe look much better then new ones
This is an amazing set!
This set has interested me greatly! Good to hear someones opinion on it. I kind of agree about the paint scheme. Although the set is cool, nothing can top the original! I have the Postwar 2243 and its one of my favorite postwar diesels!
No beating the original Santa Fe’s for sure!!
One of my favorite cabooses! Love the work you put in the layout bro.
Thanks Mike!
Nice looking set. Great addition to the layout. SR
I think she looks great Zack. I like the red horns and the yellow nose stripe. Give her a little more flair. I have a 2343 set that a friend of the family gave me but she needs alot of work to get her running again. Someone left the battery in it and it ruined the frame and did a number to the wiring. But anyways have fun with your new toy and happy model railroading.
Thanks Jerome! I hope you are able to save that 2343 set! No better engine IMO. Good luck with it and thanks for watching!
At 7:13 comparing the windshields with the older unites, It looks to me like they are almost flat instead of V shaped. And the roundness of the nose is different too. Plus the paint stripping on the roof is wrong. I Don't care for them much. That's just my opinion.
You are right about the colors on the locomotives, but what can one expect from "made in China"? You could try spraying a little high gloss clear coat on them and the sedans. It is a awesome set!
Very nice video. Well done. Thanks
Thank you!
Not just an opinion. Your observation is correct. Red paint is flat and dull looking. PW red is not as flat. Agree, nice set none the less.
Wow! That sets pretty cool! Idk I like the red, looks great to me.
flat matt red vs gloss red
I think what throws this off as a loco set is i think it is suppose to in a a-b-a setup meaning you are missing the power car to finish off the set
The tracks are classic!!!
Al, I agree on the red, but everything else looks great. I had that original milk car when Santa brought it to me in the 1940’s
Thanks Thomas!
I just acquired a Lionel E-6 Sante Fe AA set #14. Plus I just purchased a Sante Fe passenger set to go along with it.
Very nice!
Very nice Zack. I agree with you on the red paint. However, the set looks awesome. The postwar 2343 is next on my list!
Thanks Steve!! Hope you are able to find that perfect 2343 set!
Good points all, but passenger cars with a done and Big Dome along with a proper diner and silver trucks would be great, if pricey! BDS
Looks and runs very nice! A sexy unit!
Lionel went out of their way to bring back modern post war F3 Santa Fe diesels. Why be so picky about red horns etc. It is a Postwar conventional Classic for gosh sakes! I would rather have these new trains than the old ones any day. Lionel made a huge Santa Fe streamliner set in 2007 I think, two A units and 2 or 3 B units. About 7 or 8 cars I think. We need more appreciation for what Lionel does for us perfectionists. Great job Lionel, and thank you a hundred times!
I like the video. The set is spot on except for two things ... The diesels fall short of recreating the original by color and by the stripe not stopping below the headlight. Of course the lack of the Lionel and GM tags add to it as well. The second is the caboose they. Outdoor have made it like the boxy original and made it smoke for fun. Look these sets cost enough one should not settle. But if you’re happy with it that’s all that matters ... Happy Railroading and nice layout.
Yes • very nice • Cool 😎
Thanks for the unboxing and review! Well done! It seems that Lionel has problems with color selection and finish treatment. It was supposed to be similar to the original and missed the mark. They need to better understand the customer or proof the prototypes better.
Looks and sounds good. But why did they choose to put an E-bell on the sound set? That would bother me. The F3 would have used either a pneumatic or electro-mechanical bell.
Impressive! Keep 'em coming!
Thanks!
Nice all the way round, especially tht new York central
Your army train is something else!!!
Thanks Joe!
All of my Lionel Trains are from the 50s when I was a kid. Can you do a video on "programing in" a train set like this new 120 Santa Fe?
I agree. The red does look a bit cheap in comparison to the originals. It does look like a rather nice set. Have you ever considered purchasing one of Williams postwar sets. Ive always been curious about that Texas Special set they have.
I’ve had one Williams set in my hands once. When I was looking for the 2245 TX special I almost picked up a Williams version from a hobby shop. It looked good, and seemed to run good too, but I couldn’t get past the flatter red on it. I held out, and am happy I did. Picked up an original 2245 set a few months later. It was a nice set though! I just get a little uppity when comparing to the originals lol
@@CountryBunkersTrains Thanks for the input. I can definitely understand your position. I was always curios about how the williams trains looked in comparison to their original lionel counterparts.
There's currently 1,500 Lionel F3 & 150 Lionel Santa Fe F3 units on e bay. Not sure what the appeal is with buying the exact same thing from Lionel (re-released 25 times or more) when you can find them second hand at 75% less.
No such thing as too many Santa Fe’s!
Very nice set! If it wasn't so pricey, I'd get one.
That really is a nice set - enjoyed the video!
Thank you!
That set is really cool! The milk car is so quiet compared to the original :P Awesome video!
Thanks!!
Nice train set really like F3 engines
I have a Lionel G-gauge Santa Fe passenger set, along with three other G-gauge sets, Pennsylvania and New York Central freight sets and the Polar Express passenger set.
Awesome train set
I love your videos And we love you 😍
Love the unboxing!!
Thank you!
Nice video, thanks for sharing, will agree with you the red is a little off but nice set anyway, thanks again for the video.
It doesn't look as good as postwar but I would still like to own them. Sounds awesome.
I'll take any of those santa fe f3 a units anyday. I'll probably end up buying a set of post war a units from the 50s at tax time.
That's a great set!!! Only noticed the yellow stripe on the 2.0
Not sure Bunk. I got hosed on the CC 2343s and had to get replacement shells. I can’t believe they have issues getting their signature engine correct
I heard about that the other week with the CC SF’s. It is weird how they can’t match the red. Idk if they do that on purpose, or if it’s a mistake.
@@CountryBunkersTrains Maybe try a little wax or polishing compound to bring out the gloss.
I guess if the modern chassis are the same build as the postwar chassis you could just swap the shells out! I'm sure it's not that easy though
Beautiful big fan of the Fe diesel enjoy!
Looks great, but the locos should have the blue paint scheme for freight trains. I like both the red passenger and blue freight colors, and I try to keep rivet counting to a minimum.
AMAZING set! I too am a huge fan of the F3s and Santa Fe especially. I agree with you, I think the gloss red looks a little better, and I think the gloss is more prototypical as well. The red horns on top of the cab also speak to some quality shortcuts... oh well, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Still, I agree with you, it is a fantastic looking set! Nice purchase, congrats!
Thank you!
I love that train wish i had it
I like the 3 dome tank far better than the old one. Lionel should have painted the caboose green and the horns blue. That would make the picky collectors happy ha! ha! Seriously tho, the old stuff is not near as good looking as this new set is. I want sound and Smoke, not that plain old stuff. I like the red horns and everything about this great set. I hope Lionel makes more postwar conventional Classics. All those new engines costing $1000s is ridiculous. A lot of people who only make $25k to $40k and are raising kids and pay high rent cannot afford to buy a set for Christmas nowadays.
LOL - you are always excited!
They should give you a gold plated dagger......
Way too cool.....has great classic post war cars!
Red is fine......🙄
Of coarse! Whenever it involves some O gauge goodness!! LOL
Very nice.
I don't see it in the 2021 Lionel Catalog. How much money does this F3 set cost?
I think you're crazy I don't think those engines look cheap there all really nice .
I do like em a lot! But when compared with the originals there are a couple “shortcuts” in some spots. However I will not be looking to send it back! LOL
@@CountryBunkersTrains I do have to agree the post war stuff is the way to go .😀 I've yet to get me a set of post war a unit F3s Santa fe. You do have a pretty nice set up though. And I'm an o gauge collector myself . Take care Tony
I agree CB. The red on the new FA's looks flat and cheap. I wish they would have chromed sides rather than paint it that very bland silver. Would it hurst to have crew talk that doesn't sound like a robot was chatting? It should be reflective of the 50's. The bell has the sound of a really cheap steel bell. You can tell the difference form it and a brass bell. The horn sounds like a geese getting goosed.
Nice set, and you are correct, the red just isn't quite right, but still a nice set
Man nice set. That is a mouthfuls for sure good thing you pre ordered i believe its SOLD OUT.
I have a Williams set. A A Santa fe F 3 . I will do a video of it.
Looks like a hand full .
Good choice
Yea Bunker it will grow on you overtime,
The new set has plenty to off set the difference in the paint.
Hey thats a great set.
That set looks awesome my guess is they used the new modern paint on it instead of the old gloss
How many F3's do you have???.. beautiful
Nice Video
Not the same paint, I just found your Channel and I'm impressed with your videos.
Bob Cooney
Salt Lake City Utah
Welcome aboard Bob!! Thank you! Glad you are enjoying the channel!
Awesome set I really enjoy your vids kutgw a cool layout
Thank you!
Good stuff sir, ur almost to 2k subs!
Thank you Michael! Pretty shocked about that!
Zack, great video ! I don't have any lionel chief trains and no longer own any tmcc stuff either. I enjoyed this video but was curious how you were operating the train set on your layout? Can you tell us what you are using? Thanks, Glenn in AZ
Thanks Glenn! Yea, I’ve only got 2 TMCC equipped engines at the moment. Don’t run them a whole lot. The set is operated via TMCC hooked up to the MTH DCS system. Thank you for watching!
@@CountryBunkersTrains thanks for the information. I knew your 2344 had been converted to ERR and I saw it run but didn't really give it much thought. When I saw your new 120th anniversary F3 set it made me wonder what you were running it on. Thanks again. Always enjoy watching your videos. I am more of a postwar leaning guy but have a few proto 2 engines as well. No tmcc stuff since they did not run very well in our club layout so I sold them. Keep the videos coming!
The set is actually decent. I do agree the red is a tad duller then what is on the postwar F-3's you have. Also the steam generator details on the rear hatch shouldn't be on it especially since the set is supposed to be postwar inspired. The sounds are not bad but the e-bell shouldn't be on it.
I do love the set, do wish it was a little closer to the postwar sets it is modeled after. However I don’t think Lionel can win here. Some people like me will complain about the paint/doesn’t match originals, others will complain it’s not prototypical or doesn’t look real enough. I think they did a somewhat decent job of meeting in the middle. Happy Railroading
Beautiful set.... red not too bad and over time that red may "fade". Just park it in front of the window with the sun shining on it !? :0
Well shoot, I don’t want to fade it anymore than it already is! LOL
Hey, what ballast did you use along the track? It looks good on MTH track.
It’s actually good old kitty litter lol. The cheap special kitty brand from Walmart. Thank you!
@@CountryBunkersTrains haha. It looks good. My cat might use it😟
Nice engines!
Actually it is a gorgeous set. I can go either way on glossy versus matte. Glossy is more traditional, but matte is more prototypical. Really, as we all know, the set should have passenger cars as the engines are in the post war passenger scheme. Bruce D. Schrimpf
The passenger cars would definitely be more prototypical, but Lionel did offer these as freight sets originally too. I’m sure being a freight set helps keep the price down a little as well. I am impressed at the cars in this set. I like em a lot.
Would you like to buy just one more Santa F diesel set by MTF with the aluminum passenger cars that I bought new in 1997 and I've never taken them out of the boxes it is equipped with Proto sound. It was the first set that is called the "The El Capitan"it is definitely the best looking Santa Fe set:( in my opinion) ever built for O gauge modeling and I've been in the hobby for seventy years.
Thank you Lavern! I appreciate the thought! Think I’ve got my hands full of SF’s at the moment though. I’ll ask around if anyone would be interested.
What kind of motors does the powered A unit have? Is it pullmor or can motors? Also could the locomotive be run with a transformer and can the sounds be turned off?
I’m not sure on the motors off hand. Yes, this can be controlled conventionally with a transformer and has a switch underneath to turn the sounds off if desired. Honestly though, if looking to operate conventionally with no sounds, I would opt for an original postwar piece. Not sure if it would be worth the money not to be able to use all the “bells and whistles” that come with this one. Could save a good bit and buy the originals. However, to each his own.
At 15:56, How do you run other trains and have those Santa Fe's not be on if the tracks are connected with switches? Wouldn't the electricity turn those on as well?
The sidings are isolated away from the main track work with a powered switch installed to turn them on and off.
@@CountryBunkersTrains Oh that makes sence. Thanks zach!
I agree with that color I think it would be more glossy.