Lionel 120th Anniversary F3 Freight Set
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- In this video we check out the new Lionel 120th Anniversary F3 Freight Set from 2020. Enjoy!
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I love that the milk man still violently flings the cans out haha I'm actually glad they didn't fix it because that took me straight back to being a kid with my grandpa's 3472 mill car.
@LegoMan66 I'm not too knowledgeable about how the innards work but I bet the people on the o-gauge railroading forum (OGR) could help you out.
3662 milk car works fine providing transformer setting is correct. Mine works perfectly on 9 volts...super o track.
My father got the Lionel NYC F3 set in 1950; the boxes don't say age restricted...14 to adult. I was 6 and brother was 10 at the time.. I still have it. 78 y/o now.
I like to think that milk dude is a disgruntled worker. May he find gruntledness. 🤣
Ha
Insufficiently gruntled.
The old operating milk , log dumper, and cattle cars were the centerpieces of our old layout and set. Our milk car had been tinkered with often trying to make milk delivery more reliable. I still have that set (with the 736 Berkshire) and still treasure it.
This is one of the most beautiful sets ever to come out of Lionel!
Nice to see that Lionel brought back the real portholes, front grab bars, and ladders.
It's a shame model railroad companies today rarely focus on play value alongside the trains. The models with their tons of details and features are great but the joy of watching a train go around a track only lasts for so long. Action accessories like these is what made companies like Lionel and Triang great for play. Lets hope this trend makes a comeback!
And yarr angry milk dude throws the cans out with gusto. Here's to seeing that milk platform on your layout someday.
For what Lionel charges it should be made in the U.S not junk China
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Yes Sir
@@tendomaya5867 😆😆😆😆😆 back to ya
Yes! Looks a lot like the original sets from the late 40s and 50s! And to make it feel more like the original I’d suggest using Lionel’s older style track
They certainly did a good job making that set to have it look like postwar
Me personally though I could never get that, it doesn’t really have the same charm that the postwar stuff did, the growl of the motor, the clicking of the e unit and that horn that sounded weird
Omg... The operating milk car. I remember seeing it on "All Aboard America's Best Model Trains" by Tom McComas. I didn't know Lionel brought it back until I looked in the 2020 catalog. 😃
Update: I just got this set but, there were a few drawbacks. 1. The horn pieces on the powered F3 unit weren't on the roof and 2. I don't have the control track that activates the log or milk cars yet. 😐
Nice looking set. In my opinion, Lionel Postwar trains are iconic and absolutely gorgeous. Suggestion; get a Postwar 2343 or 2353 to pull those cars. It would be a stunning set!
The f7a’s look absolutely stunning
They do!
Come on folks...smash the thumbs up! 1,810 views and only 258 thumbs up. Eric's work deserves your support!
My support would be given if truth be told about this set. At a glance it looks like a postwar set; in reality, with the exception of a few cars, it has nothing to do with postwar. Does the locomotive have magnetraction? Does it have ac motors? Does it say "built by Lionel"? Is there a GM logo on the side? The postwar locomotive never had exhaust smoke. And while the horn sounds great, it would be nice to have the old battery powered horn. However everything I mentioned would probably be too expensive for Lionel to produce. The log dump car is not compatible with fastrack. Don't glorify this set because it isn't postwar.
@@markkilgore938 I was asking that people support this channel, not the item being reviewed. He deserves our support.
Looks like a great set always loved those post war sets. Maximum speed 🚅.= Derailment. Happy easter. Have a great day.
It's a neat set, definitely a nice touch for the anniversary, but I betcha you could get the postwar originals for a fraction of the $1K asking price.
Not in Like New Condition. It would cost considerably more than $1K esp. including the original boxes.
@@jefflampert6336
In fairness, I never said they had to be. It would only really make a difference if you were after a shelf queen for display only or as a collector's piece, after all you can't run an empty box on a layout.
As an operator, I prefer locos and rolling stock in good mechanical condition and at least decent paint, a few scratches and a bit of wear doesn't bother me overmuch, and I do restore the occasional basket case with new parts, paint, and reproduction decals.
@@Shipwright1918 Fair enough. My point was that since the reviewed set was brand new, it seemed reasonable when talking price to compare comparable condition. But as you said, a pristine postwar train will probably not be run and an even slightly lesser condition postwar train will cost considerably less.
@@jefflampert6336
Point taken, but I will point out even if you had a pristine postwar set, never run, still in the boxes, would still be 50+ years old, while the replica is a brand new copy. Why pay the same if not more for the copy?
Nothing against replicas, mind, several of my layout's accessories are reissues of the classic ones, but they were appropriately priced less than the originals of similar condition/utility. The only time I insisted on a replica come what may was for the operating water tower, as I wanted to put the water in it and the originals are troublesome to restore.
On the other side of the fence, I had wanted to get an MTH tinplate train, but when I saw the prices, I did a double-take and went digging, found an original Lionel 262e from the 30's in good running order for far less.
The F3s have all the modern features like realistic sound and Bluetooth. Men like Bluetooth. Bluetooth makes everything better.
The set looks absolutely stunning on your model railroad !!
Great video as per usual Eric. I got this set about a month ago. Love it. FYI The log dump car works with the Fasttrack Uncoupling Track 6-12020. However the milk car needs the Operating Uncoupling Track 6-12054. Note the catalogue incorrectly stated that the milk car needed the 6-12020. Which did not work for the milk car.
Nice video Eric, happy easter!
As a 19 year old, I photoed 3 F3s. RUNNING!
2 ICG in Bloomington, Ill. (1 in ICG and 1 in GMO paint)
At Mississippi jct. Minneapolis, Mn. A CNW F3B being led by a CNW FP7.
1978. About the only F3s running are those 2 ex BAR in DLW paint.
I inherited an original A-A Santa Fe F3 set from my grandfather. The thing I remember the most before all the command controlled trains started to enter the picture were these F3s. The most notable thing about them I can remember from such a young age is picking the powered unit up and turning wheels up. This was to see if the horn would work as it was powered by a D battery if I’m not mistaken, and if there wasn’t one in, no horn.
Hey Eric,
Been watching your videos since your atlas tutorials from way back. Thanks for making and sharing a great video. By the way, your layout can make any train look good. I am sure this is a train even Chessie would like.
That thing corners like it’s on rails! It’s almost like there was some innovative magnetic technology creating enhanced adhesion to the track.
Man seeing that auto loader sure brings back memories. I have my grandfarters post war Berkshire and it has that same auto loader. I even still have all 4 cars, albeit a little worse for wear. Always look forward to your videos. Thank you.
Happy Easter Eric Happy Railroading 2 U
That’s a really nice set! The milk car doors look pretty realistic when closed
I’ve noticed that the electro magnet for the the Fastrack Operating/Uncoupling Track is actually raised up a tiny bit in the center making the clearance for the plunger too close to be pulled down to make the log dump car operate. Take a good look and you’ll see what I’m talking about. I have a couple of them, and they’re exactly the same. I use the method you mentioned about using a tubular operating track and 2 Fastrack adapter pieces. They work so much better including the the sliding shoe rails.
How about a couple of washers between trucks and the car body and a longer screw to raise the log bed up .
@@albertthorne2872 That’s thinking out of the box. That’s a good idea. Just get the correct gauge threaded size screws, and don’t tighten them down too tight to hinder the trucks from swiveling.
It should work out of the box; you shouldn't have to think out of the box.@@thomaswissmann9073
Just an awesome set all the way around!
The log dump can be easily fixed by pushing the end piece farther up the shaft, then removing the shaft that is protruding, thus giving more clearance to the electromagnet. .
Very cool!! Reminds me of when I first saw my friends first Lionel set in the 70's.
"Everything's made in China these days. Get over it." Pretty harsh Eric. Happy Easter.
Well, it’s funny how people still act surprised when something is made in China. lol
@@Ericstrains Well I remember when things also said made in Japan or Taiwan!
Happy Easter. Beautiful set.
Happy Easter Eric
Looking forward to your review of the Southern Pacific Vision stock express set too!
14:49 my jaw dropped, can’t believe they would seriously put an e bell on these. 🤦♂️
I have always wondered if lionel would ever make a reproduction of the postwar 2025 or 675 in lionchief, how about the 221 postwar dreyfuss hudson, very nice engine. But I wish the mpc era hudson which bachmann made similar models of would come back in lionchief
I had the same issue with the coal dump car from the anniversary scout set glad to see what you figured out
Nice ....I'm looking forward to the Southern GP freight set ....and the add on boxcars 😁👍❤🇺🇸
Thanks Eric, great review and love the different knifes you display
Man that rolling stock brings back memories. Some of the first cars that my dad got me. Wish he got me those F3's though. I always fancied the look of the diesel than steam locos. My log car was O-gauge though and I had O-27 curves, so that thing was always derailing.
I love this set, wish I could afford one. Maybe in a few years. My set I have the original milk car and cattle car. No, my cattle car never worked properly, but have it mainly cause I grew up with it.
Thanks for your videos and sharing your talents and trains Doug in Ga it is a beauty 😎
Very nice, but waaayyy out of price range.
Hi I’m starting a train channel called cy’s trains I would like to know if you have any tips
Beautiful set and great review as always!
Good Luck Getting 1 Because There $1,000 www.lionelstore.com/Lionel-120th-Delux-LC2-F3-Set
@@McCloud19250 I can get 20 if I wanted lol
The milk cat is cool 😎
Eric, I don't know if it's just the way it appears on camera but the red color of the Engines seems darker than the original and the yellow accents are not the same either. Is that just the appearance or is that the way it really is?
It’s probably not a good idea to compare these to the originals as there are numerous differences. It’s more about having the same spirit as the originals than being being exact copies.
@@Ericstrains Be honest Eric. This is nothing like the original. It certainly doesn't have the same "spirit" as the original. If Lionel wanted to, they could have made this set closer to the original.
I have always wanted the F3 Santa Fe Super Chief set in the original 55 version.. the closest I have gotten is the Marx passenger set... I've got the blue and silver MPG era but I've never had the red and yellow War Bonnet Santa Fe ever in Lionel and this is a really nostalgic set
Eric, at 19:45 the lionel log car:
Could you put a nylon washer over the trucks to raise the body of the car higher? Would this fix the issue?
it might
Is it just me or do the truck side frames on the engineer's side of the lead unit look a little off-kilter? Also, an e-bell on an F3? c'mon Lionel...
I like the condor knife and Lionel train set :)
Good afternoon Eric I like your videos very very nice I like that that's set you bought from Lionel it's very very nice I like it
Hi Eric milk car time when I had it used to be on the milk cans was in the metal
I have that same tanker car, but the top looks like it’s been in a attic but the wheels are kinda rusting out
Excellent set and Happy Easter Eric!!!
Nice set but it would have been nicer if Lionel made it work with their fast track, what the hell were they thinking? And for the price it should have came with the cattle car
That’s a really nice set I bet the horn on the emd f3 sounds like it’s musicial on this! Btw your layout looks awesome!
Looking awesome Eric
Very nice set! Congratulations!!
The set is a "must have." What a beautiful set.
What a great way to start Easter
I like that Santa Fe I like the way it sounds
What a beautiful train
Bell sounds a bit to modern.
However I wish they made this in a starter set as well, one Loco and 3 to 4 cars.
I was looking to buy this set earlier to set up with my grandson. This video pushed me over the edge Eric, and I just purchased one from Legacy Station. Really looking forward to its arrival. This O gauge stuff is new to me and I have bought a small fastrack 5x10 oval setup to get us going. But I have no idea about how to power it. Can you please recommend a basic power supply to use. The CW-80 Transformer seems to much for this small setup even though I hope to expand. I will get the handheld control unit for this so do not need another throttle as on the CW-80 Transformer. Love your videos and thanks a lot!!!
Weird about the log loader. I've got one, and as I recall it works perfectly with the Fastrack. I'll have to pull it out and check.
They should've used the old box design for those, it would really bring the classic feel
They’re probably saving that for 150 or 200
@@prnjrr1783 that doesn't make any sense though, the set was based off a postwar set, so shouldn't it have postwar boxes, they should've waited till 2050 to release a postwar remake, they should've just released a Tinplate set as thats what they would've been making in the 1920s
help .Okay, I just bought this set and I'm running it on the Lionel app but yet the non-power unit coupler does not work and the directional headlight on the non-powered unit doesn't work and when I put the milk car on the track I'm using fast track. It just keeps shorting out and the train comes to a stop. And disconnect from Bluetooth. Any ideas on how to solve these problems would be appreciated
This is such an old video by Eric. To think he’s come so far with model railroading
It’s only 2 years old lol.
@@Ericstrains true
Nice. Love your layout.
On video the horn sounds like a boat horn or was that how Santa fe was? Pretty nice train. I like the smoke gor sure. I have the Pennsylvania Flyer.
Happy Belated Easter Eric
I recently received from a family friend some aec glow in the dark box cars (all 4 variants) aec fluid cars (once again all 4) and the ace glow in the dark security car they go great with my unlettered lionchief usra 0-8-0
This Milk Car does not use magnetic milk cans. Those were discontinued in 1955 when the near scale length milk car was introduced. Also, the platform shelf should be in the higher position rather than the O27 position. This would eliminate the falling cans. One of the latest Milk Cars uses a servo rather that the solenoid and operates smoothly using a voltage regulated regulated circuit. Have you looked inside of this milk car? Does it have the solenoid or the servo? The original 1955 version had a pneumatic damper on the servo. Modern era Lionel did not use this for some reason. The new servo version works quite well.
That's right, I forgot that the platform height can be adjusted. Thanks. I haven't opened it up so I'm not 100% sure what mechanism this one is using.
@@Ericstrains I found on the one that I reviewed for LCCA (the Santa one) that the platform shelf was almost impossible to change. I had to loosen some of the other structure in order to chage the location of the platform. It should be shipped with the platform in the O gauge position since Lionel's O27 is pretty much dead. Always enjoy your videos.
Did you eever cut holes in a cardboard box and make believe it was a tunnel ?? Try looping some elastic bands under the log car for make believe strapping, then run at full speed to see if you lose them. Logs/poles co ming loose and shifting is why there is a new bridge over the Medina River in Texas
Nice video ericstrain
That can be cool if you try the New York central 0-4-0 steam locomotive in your set
Awesome Video!!!!
Happy Easter
Apparently no one at Lionel pays attention to tolerances. How can you make a special 120th anniversary set and have a log car that does not work with Lionel's premium track system?
My sentiments exactly. The reason is this: Lionel now produces expensive junk.
Finally
Me and my dad have the original f units sadly the person who had it was missing the cars
Awesome set very nice super videos thanks
The milk car is really good looking
I have want that set
Nice train set!
Fantastic video Eric I was wondering did you try it with the Atlas electro-magnet section? sorry for the repeat question ,or such a random one.
I'm not adverse to products being made in China. However, there should definitely be something done to improve quality control. Too many times, I have bought O gauge or S scale articles that were defective or very poorly built.
The log dump car looks and works more like the post war helium dump car. My postwar gray log dump car unloaded logs gradually, one at a time as it opened. BTW, are you still collecting Hallmark train ornaments? I plan to sell or trade my collection.
I love that set??❤❤❤ how much for it and where can I get it?? Can I work on Lionel Fast Track??
What a great train does the engine use fly wheel to stop.
Thanks for the info and video.
I Love it! Great! Greetings from germany
Hey cric I think that car it want to drive away and happy Easter.
That's a cool set !
22:48 was the 1st locomotive derailed?
Running max speed with a $1000 set on that tiny track? Wow!
The set looks amazing I'm just questioning why the engine has a GE E Bell in it
Pretty nice set!
I Want to Lionel 120th Anniversary Set.
Why in the world does it have a 21st century electronic E bell off of a gevo?