I misspoke when I said Mean Bean Machine was based on Sonic SatAM--it was actually based on AoStH. I know which cartoon it was, I just said the wrong title in the video. My apologies. A video this large is bound to have at least one error lol.
Also you mention that the Sonic CD soundtrack was redone in the US becasue they "didn't like it" but actually it was because they didn't have the rights for any of the samples on the music that the Japnese version used, and there was an ongoing music sampling scandal in the US going on at the time, and also "You Can Do Anything" was never called "Toot Toot Sonic Warrior", that was a fan-name only given to the song by people on the internet based on a comical misinterpretation of the lyrics. What's actually even being said is "Shushu Sonic Warrior", as "shu" is a Japanese onomatopoeia or verbal sound effect "shu" meant to signify the sound of running or dashing. Anyway, actual correct lyric aside, it's only ever gone by the official title "You Can Do Anything". "Toot Toot Sonic Warrior" is not a title that has ever existed. A bunch of people on the internet came up with that because they thought they were funny. That would be like calling the theme for Super Smash Bros Brawl "Call Me Mama He Be Who"
Also another mistake you made was saying Amy Rose ever went by "Rosy The Rascal" at least outside of Sonic The Fighters for some reason. In actual fact, she was always Amy Rose in the Japanese manual. I think you were thrown off because the US Manual refers to her as "Princess Sally" which is the name that only stuck for one game (and they were trying to tie it into the cartoon.).
This should by far go down as one of, if not, the best and most comprehensive video series of Sonic on UA-cam! You are extremely talented with this sort of thing and it genuinely blows my mind on how much research was put into this and how exhaustive this list is, whether it be games, shows, weird tie-ins, etc! I especially loved hearing about the more obscure stuff and even unreleased stuff like SegaSonic Bros lol, my first time hearing about that! And I never would’ve guessed the Game Gear version of Sonic 2 would’ve came out before the console version and is much harder haha. Also I’m a sucker for hearing about the ad campaign and seeing clips of Sega and Nintendo’s fun but savage rivalry back in the day and love seeing you talk about all sorts of historical stuff like that! And this video makes me wanna play along to a lot of these classic Sonic game and I’d always go back to this video again and again when I do so! This video is absolutely incredible, I hope you have lots of fun making part 2 as well and I’m definitely looking forward to it, and you should be proud of how this project has turned out thus far!!
I rely on people to choose to watch my videos themselves rather than depend on bots, collaborations, clickbait, and appealing to the algorithm in every possible way. I'm old school, but unfortunately that's not what gets big on this site anymore. I'm completely happy with where I'm at though, which is why I don't do this for the views.
Woo! You added Sega Superstars Tennis. I never see anyone mention that game at all. But the House of the Dead, AiAi, and Jet Set Radio levels were super fun.
1:40:54 you didn't mention this, but what's even more baffling is that their designs are swapped because Sonic looks like his original Japanese design alongside American Eggman and vice-versa It's super weird
Props to you man. You did a great job here. BRAVOO, can’t wait for parts 2 and 3. Despite being more of a Mario fan, Sonic still has an amazing career and I have a lot lot of respect for the blue blur. Also if you somehow do the same thing but with Mario, I would actually be stunned 😅😅🎉🎉🎉
A 7 and a half long video and you don't even get to my birth year, now that's something. I'm curious to see your thoughts on my favorite games, so looks like I gotta strap in for the long haul!
as someone who has been fixating on sonic recently, and has been working through raocow's "all the sonics" playlist, and as a shadow streak fan that kinda got lost in the sauce and needed to return to watching vids, I am very, VERY hype for this
2:04:54 From my understanding, it was Oshima who drew the initial sketch of Sonic (which won the Sega mascot contest). Naka, whom Oshima was paired up with afterwards, made him blue and gave him the shoes (the red comes from Santa Claus, while the buckles came from his love of Michael Jackson (though I like to think they also came from those rocket shoes Wile E. Coyote wore once.)
17:54 You have no idea how happy it made me to hear you namedrop the old school Badniks. Last time someone did that, it was early Archie, via the Sonic Archives trade paperbacks.
Honestly the fan made Triple Trouble remake deserves to be played just as much as the official genesis games, it's unironically one of my favourite platformers and the perfect replica of the classic Sonic formula, almost as good as S3nK. The devs understood perfectly Sonic Team's vision and general style,both in terms of level and audiovisual design. I'm even surprised it's made by a group of fans for the sake of it. Glad you gave it some light because few fangames will ever be as good as that one.
sonic R is not only my favourite sonic game, it's my favourite game full stop! I love that game so much I literally have a tails doll tattoo to show my love for the game. anyway amazing video can't wait for part 2 :)
Having just finished this whole video. I think I know why you got called out for excluding certain games in your spongebob retrospective. I remember you reviewing that Freddi Fish LCD game in your retrospective on that series so people probably expected the same criteria for both. Either way, I greatly appreciate your devotion to this series and can't wait for part 2. Keep up the good work.
Tbh i was worried you fell off youtube thinking that your videos weren’t doing as well as when you were doing powerpuff girls stuff because you definitely are cooking! I love your new videos man. Keep up the good work
This is the sort of video I like even if I’m not gonna watch it. Somebody puts this much effort into a project the least you can do is help them with the algorithm
This video better get the same amount of veiws (or more) as your SpongeBob video, because you deserve it from all the effort you've done shadow🙏. You're the GOAT!
To speak to your bit on automation in the Sonic Adventure bit, I think a lot of people have been soured on how Adventure uses automation and boost pads for its setpieces because it has lead to the future games becoming exponentially more automated, constantly stripping away player agency in favor of shallow spectacle. Just look at Sonic 4. That game started slapping boost pads everywhere because they couldn't be bothered to build any kind of natural physics engine. The fact that in the classic games, the loops acted like speed gates that forced the player to either keep up their speed or take the time to rev a spindash to get through meant that they were more than just spectacle. They had actual gameplay implications and challenge. People pine for that feeling again in an age of "Hold the boost button and watch Sonic run through a bunch of enemies and gimmicks with minimal player input." To clarify, I personally enjoy the way the loops feel in SA1 and 2 as brief swings on the roller coaster that is the rest of the level. And the fact that sometimes the optimal way to play is to bypass them altogether is very fitting. But I can completely understand how someone can come off the tedious bullet train that is the Boost Formula games, then look at the Adventures and go "Ugh, why are they taking away my controller AGAIN!?"
Yeah I mean I see what happened in future games too so those complaints are valid, but Adventure 1 didn't do that so it shouldn't be bashed for that. It's not Adventure 1's fault that the developers later on decided to automate things more ya know? We'll be getting to the games where those problems arise and when we do it'll be acknowledged, but yeah I don't think Adventure 1 is at fault at all because within this game it works exactly how I'd want it to.
i am glad to know i am not the only one who liked sonic labyrinth and Tails Adventure 😀 so many people hate them just because they are slow i believe sonic labyrinth is a cute little puzzle game and Tails Adventure is actually in my top 10 favorite sonic games (because it make total sense as a tails game and also as a person who sucks at metroidvania, i am glad that there is a game in this genre that i can actually finish) by the way i really appreciate what you are doing 👍 first time i saw this type of videos i wished there was a sonic one as well, and now here we are
There's more where this one came from! Glad somebody else out there appreciates those Game Gear titles too, they seem to be given a worse rep than (some of them) deserve lol.
6:31:29 I dunno... I think it might be cooler after the doors close... because it looks like the game is censoring out Sonic violently beating up a room full of badnics.
Okay, but to defend my 6-year-old self Re: The Barrel of Doom: The fact that jumping onto the barrel and forcing it down ALMOST works is a big red herring. It gives the impression that you just need to time the jumps a little better, dissuading you from trying something completely different. Plus, I don't think anything else in the franchise up to that point responds to pressing Up and Down like the barrels do. In fact, I know you call it "basic gaming instinct," but I'm having a hard time thinking of any earlier or contemporary platformer with objects that worked like this. Not in Mario, Mega Man, Castelvania...heck, both Yoshi's Island and Wario Land each have platforms with arrows that you can ride and change their directions...by jumping on them. A couple barrel types in the Donkey Kong Country trilogy are the only things that come to mind, and they have big D-Pads plastered on them.
I'm glad you not only liked Sonic R, but loved it. I too love it, but I feel like I still would have to consider it a guilty pleasure, it's just super clunky but it is ahead of it's time in some ways and the combination of being a racing and platforming game with focus on exploration and collectables is still really awesome and I wish they made a true sequel to it, instead of nostalgia baiting people with Team Sonic Racing.
Sorry for repeating myself, but you didn't mention a thing about the story for "Sonic Chaos". I was really expecting you to, and was thrown for a loop.
Okay I had a question that kept coming to me throughout the video and I haven’t noticed you mention it so far in the video: seeing as you were also a fan of Brainscratch Commentaries, I have to ask if you got your tendency to say “but I digress” from one of their common guests and friend, The Great ClementJ642? Because personally I found out about BSC through him and I saw you mention them in your intro and was so surprised and happy to learn there are others who also watched these more niche content creators of the time! That is always something I kept from my childhood “but I digress” :) Can’t wait for pt 2!
oh wow, as someone working on the polish sonic wiki, I recently created a full list with every single sonic game I could find. it took weeks. it's nice to see I wasn't alone in this, and just after watching the rules I can tell how much work you put into this. we need more sonic youtubers acknowledging the most obscure games instead of saying "I beat EVERY sonic game" and proceeding to play only mainline titles. amazing video.
I expect you to eventually do a review of every Bubsy game in the future to balance out the universe /j Jokes aside it's nice to see a more nuanced take on games like Sonic Labyrinth and Knuckles' Chaotix. Hearing you swear is very shocking though
Lol I'd swear in old videos but it probably just seems like I'm swearing more because it's condensed into one video rather than spread across multiple.
There are two differences Knuckles makes in Sonic 2 that I remember. 1) You don't lose your rings after doing a special stage like you originally did as Sonic and Tails, and 2) There are extra 1-ups hidden in certain areas that only Knuckles can reach. I specifically remember there being three 1-up boxes on high platforms in Chemical Plant Zone act 1 that Knuckles could climb up and glide to. I know these were added specifically to the Knuckles version because I once went to those areas as Sonic in debug mode and the 1-up boxes weren't in those areas.
40:17 Sonic 1 Game Gear was actually my very first Sonic game and the third video game I ever played after Mario Kart 64 and Super Mario 64 when I was like, three years old in 2000. The Game Gear was my Dad's that he brought on a trip to Italy along with Castle of Illusion, a Duck Tales Game and Sonic 1 It's a game that's near and dear to my heart and there are aspects about it that I actually prefer over the 16 Bit version (Special Stages being one of them)
Sonic Crackers/Clackers is so messy/buggy/incomplete cuz its probably a pitch demo. Something thrown together to sell a full game to investors. Crackers/Clackers leading to Chaotix is probably how the development played out.
Hey Shadow, In Sonic 2 on the Game Gear, you can also get Sonic or Tails on the sign at the end of a level. Also, I think you played showdown's theme instead of the machine when you said you loved those 3 stage themes.
Between its cancellation on a cliffhanger, canceled tie in games like Sonic 16 and Sonic Mars, the cancelled English version of the SegaSonic arcade game, Sonic SatAM really was absolutely cursed with the nastiest case of Murphy’s law. I know the Archie comics still used those characters, but they also got super cursed later on thanks to people like Ken Penders
To expand on the automation part a bit, it seems that people tend to get really offended by just seeing dash panels and automation springs etc. I like seeing it a bit differently. The thing with dash pads in most of the games, is that they add onto your already existing speed. So whenever I see them, I think "Cool! I can use these to go even faster!" And sure if you just think about it casually, they can be seen solely as automation to help the player forward, but they aren't *just* that. It really is super fun to be going really fast, and going even faster by using dash pads correctly. Now obviously it's not always done well. In Sonic 4, it doesn't add to your speed, and always locks your speed to a specific value IIRC, and while it is nice to get a speed boost, the game puts them everywhere, and it's not like you can use them consecutively to keep building more and more speed like in other games. Those games are definitely where I agree with the majority that the "automation" is done way too much. The other point is that, in the boost games, sometimes it's actually faster to *not* use a dash pad. And while that may be seen as iffy game design, I personally like seeing it as another thing I need to keep an eye out for if I want a better run. Instead of mindlessly holding boost, I have to jump over them, and while it's not *much*, it's the little interactions with the boost games that keep me engaged. So yeah dash pads existing are perfectly fine. While not always done well, as far as I'm concerned, they have mostly added to the experience rather than detracted, but that's just how I feel.
5:48:20 If you saw Death Battle recently, you'd learn from Archie Silver's analysis that the comic Sonic has met Megaman, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, and mutha fluffin' Spawn!
Something I noticed is that SEGA put out a Sonic Platformer every year until 2017. 1991: Sonic 1 1992: Sonic 2 1993: Sonic CD, Chaos 1994: Sonic 3, & Knuckles, Triple Trouble 1995: Knuckles Chaotix 1996: Sonic 3D Blast, Blast 1997: Sonic Jam 1998: Sonic Adventure 1999: Sonic Pocket Adventure 2000: (Some mini games in) Sonic Shuffle 2001: Sonic Adventure 2, Advance 2002: Sonic Advance 2 2003: Sonic Heroes 2004: Sonic Advance 3 2005: Sonic Rush, Shadow the Hedgehog 2006: Sonic the Hedgehog 2007: Sonic & the Secret Rings, Rush Adventure 2008: Sonic Unleashed 2009: Sonic & the Black Knight 2010: Sonic 4 Episode 1, Colors 2011: Sonic Generations 2012: Sonic 4 Episode 2 2013: Sonic Lost World 2014: Sonic Boom Shattered Cristal, Rise of Lyric 2015:... (One exception, there's nothing) 2016: Sonic Boom Fire & Ice 2017: Sonic Mania, Forces
After 2017 there wasn't any new platformer in 2018, 2019, 2020 or 2021. Frontiers made things go back to normal. But is there any idea why SEGA stopped releasing any new platformers after 2017?
@Alezander2002 But why didn't SEGA contract Arzest to make a new 2D Sonic game sooner, so there wouldn't be such a massive gap between Forces and Frontiers?
I'm not even much of a sonic fan, but I'm prepared to watch this- edit: i was so fascinated by all of this old sonic media that i had never heard about that i accidentally stayed up until 6AM, worth it tho
Bro for CD you have to watch the 7 hour video to understand just how much CD shows itself in the design. I used to think like you but after that video my whole view on CD changed. The levels do have speed in mind, but its up to you to use your momentum in a way to have that speed.
One other thing about Sonic Shuffle. When playing the versus mode, the score calculation is figured out by Emblems and Rings, the Precioustones are pretty much completely pointless. You can see this in the finale of Brainscratch Comms playthrough. Ted got 1 emblem and 57 rings with ZERO Precioustones, but he came in third above Lewis who got 1 emblem, 40 coins, and ONE Precioustone. The only thing getting a Precioustone does is if you get the most over the course of the game you get 1 emblem. So if you're not able to do that, the best strategy is to just completely ignore them and do other stuff.
@@ShadowStreak I finally got to Sonic R and everytime I see that game I just go "how do you know where you're going? it's a racing game where it looks like you get last every single time, because you go everywhere and nowhere at the same time"
06 is the same design just translated to what a "realistic" human being would look like, and the movies are separate from the games lol--if anything, you should've called me out for Sonic Boom, but I also call that a separate series.
3&K and Adventure are the definition of LET SONIC TEAM COOK and 'Soul', I hate how people have completely separated them from their context at release, both games packed so much stuff and dared to do what no other games were doing at the time, shame that headstart on the competition wasn't enough to save Sega.
I like how you can tell there were nuggets of ideas from the cancelled games that ended up in later games (I can’t believe the alien planet concept and using them was around for so long before Colors) as well as unused characters who were reworked. Cool to see they always remembered their ideas!
i actually performed that Out Of Bounds glitch from the Silver boss fight in Sonic's story that they did in the Sonic 06 playthrough. although with the PS3 version (which i played) the part of Soleana's hub map you can glitch out of bounds in was different then the one they did in the video. as i got the glitch to work at the part of the arena with the door to the forest area yeah. i ALSO ESCAPED THE BOSS FIGHT! I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT!
@frostlord1246 I'm actually really excited to talk about the Advance trilogy and use the experience to try and settle on a favorite because all 3 games are great for different reasons!
@ShadowStreak Better brace yourself if you plan on 100%ing them. Advance 2 is fun from a casual standpoint but the devs made grabbing the emeralds and unlocking Amy one the most painful, obnoxious, and flat out evil tasks in video game history
Fun Fact: my first Sonic game was Sonic heroes, a game I still haven't completed yet after all this time I'm trying my best to find a way to beat it but um the special stages part is my kyptonite
I misspoke when I said Mean Bean Machine was based on Sonic SatAM--it was actually based on AoStH. I know which cartoon it was, I just said the wrong title in the video. My apologies. A video this large is bound to have at least one error lol.
understood
Also you mention that the Sonic CD soundtrack was redone in the US becasue they "didn't like it" but actually it was because they didn't have the rights for any of the samples on the music that the Japnese version used, and there was an ongoing music sampling scandal in the US going on at the time, and also "You Can Do Anything" was never called "Toot Toot Sonic Warrior", that was a fan-name only given to the song by people on the internet based on a comical misinterpretation of the lyrics. What's actually even being said is "Shushu Sonic Warrior", as "shu" is a Japanese onomatopoeia or verbal sound effect "shu" meant to signify the sound of running or dashing. Anyway, actual correct lyric aside, it's only ever gone by the official title "You Can Do Anything". "Toot Toot Sonic Warrior" is not a title that has ever existed. A bunch of people on the internet came up with that because they thought they were funny. That would be like calling the theme for Super Smash Bros Brawl "Call Me Mama He Be Who"
Also another mistake you made was saying Amy Rose ever went by "Rosy The Rascal" at least outside of Sonic The Fighters for some reason. In actual fact, she was always Amy Rose in the Japanese manual. I think you were thrown off because the US Manual refers to her as "Princess Sally" which is the name that only stuck for one game (and they were trying to tie it into the cartoon.).
This should by far go down as one of, if not, the best and most comprehensive video series of Sonic on UA-cam! You are extremely talented with this sort of thing and it genuinely blows my mind on how much research was put into this and how exhaustive this list is, whether it be games, shows, weird tie-ins, etc! I especially loved hearing about the more obscure stuff and even unreleased stuff like SegaSonic Bros lol, my first time hearing about that! And I never would’ve guessed the Game Gear version of Sonic 2 would’ve came out before the console version and is much harder haha. Also I’m a sucker for hearing about the ad campaign and seeing clips of Sega and Nintendo’s fun but savage rivalry back in the day and love seeing you talk about all sorts of historical stuff like that! And this video makes me wanna play along to a lot of these classic Sonic game and I’d always go back to this video again and again when I do so! This video is absolutely incredible, I hope you have lots of fun making part 2 as well and I’m definitely looking forward to it, and you should be proud of how this project has turned out thus far!!
@SinnohShroob Thank you!!! Yes I'm very proud of how part 1 came out and aim to make part 2 to the same level if not better!
It’s almost impossible to find a creator that puts this much effort and care into their content. How do you not have more subscribers?
I rely on people to choose to watch my videos themselves rather than depend on bots, collaborations, clickbait, and appealing to the algorithm in every possible way. I'm old school, but unfortunately that's not what gets big on this site anymore. I'm completely happy with where I'm at though, which is why I don't do this for the views.
@@ShadowStreak You’re totally right. Not many old school guys left here, but I hope this video does well for you man.
Well I'm here for it. Such detail and thought definitely keeps me coming back for more.
@@ShadowStreak On the plus side, it does mean fewer people have seen the Powerpuff Girls twerking and that can only be a good thing
@@ShadowStreak Don’t worry, dude, the algorithm will do it’s thing
Your videos on the Humongous games were what brought me to your channel and seeing you continue to expand your content has been awesome
Huh, this video came out one day before my birthday, so this is kinda like a birthday gift.
Nice video though and 7 HOURS, MY GOD!!
Awesome work, my man!
Looking forward to part 2.
He promised an 8 hour video and only gave us a 7 hour 29 minute video bro fell off
Most original comment I've seen this year 👏
Bruh didn't even cover the best game of all.
SHADOW BASKETBALL!
@@nekonomicon2983 SONIKKU SKAETBOARD
You are the definition of a Sonic Fan you just can’t be satisfied to what Sega gives you grow up
@@thearghunter2053They're obviously joking, no need to do the Sonic defense force routine.
Been on a bit of a sonic kick recently and finding this video this morning was like a literal gold mine
Woo! You added Sega Superstars Tennis. I never see anyone mention that game at all. But the House of the Dead, AiAi, and Jet Set Radio levels were super fun.
Cool. Your progress in that pc port mirrors my own as a child. How cathartic it was when I finally completed it
MY JAW IS ON THE FLOOR , THANK FOR THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THIS !! 8h ?! , you got yourself a new subscriber tn 👏✨
Shadow Streak: I guess am a sucker for torturing myself
Everyone: Didn't you start off your youtube channel with 3 seasons of 2016 torture
Yeah I was late to the party in realizing that XD
@@ShadowStreak Hey I thought PAINBOW of all thing was so cool, I recorded that crap until I realized how bad it was.
7 and a half hours before even getting to any of the games that came out since I've been old enough to hold a controller is WILD.
Oh, I am SO looking forward for the rest of this
IN COME 06 AND THE BOOST GAMES!!!
1:40:54 you didn't mention this, but what's even more baffling is that their designs are swapped because Sonic looks like his original Japanese design alongside American Eggman and vice-versa
It's super weird
and here it is the video we've all been waiting for has finally arrived
Props to you man. You did a great job here. BRAVOO, can’t wait for parts 2 and 3. Despite being more of a Mario fan, Sonic still has an amazing career and I have a lot lot of respect for the blue blur. Also if you somehow do the same thing but with Mario, I would actually be stunned 😅😅🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much! No promises but I'm toying with the idea. Don't expect it for a long time though lol
@@ShadowStreakthe stress for this is insane
A 7 and a half long video and you don't even get to my birth year, now that's something. I'm curious to see your thoughts on my favorite games, so looks like I gotta strap in for the long haul!
Jon Burton, the director of both Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R, has some behind the scenes details on his UA-cam channel, GameHut.
as someone who has been fixating on sonic recently, and has been working through raocow's "all the sonics" playlist, and as a shadow streak fan that kinda got lost in the sauce and needed to return to watching vids, I am very, VERY hype for this
2:04:54 From my understanding, it was Oshima who drew the initial sketch of Sonic (which won the Sega mascot contest). Naka, whom Oshima was paired up with afterwards, made him blue and gave him the shoes (the red comes from Santa Claus, while the buckles came from his love of Michael Jackson (though I like to think they also came from those rocket shoes Wile E. Coyote wore once.)
Food for the algorithm. Bruh gotta respect your dedication to your ideas.
17:54 You have no idea how happy it made me to hear you namedrop the old school Badniks. Last time someone did that, it was early Archie, via the Sonic Archives trade paperbacks.
your channel is super underrated, dang.
Honestly the fan made Triple Trouble remake deserves to be played just as much as the official genesis games, it's unironically one of my favourite platformers and the perfect replica of the classic Sonic formula, almost as good as S3nK. The devs understood perfectly Sonic Team's vision and general style,both in terms of level and audiovisual design. I'm even surprised it's made by a group of fans for the sake of it.
Glad you gave it some light because few fangames will ever be as good as that one.
sonic R is not only my favourite sonic game, it's my favourite game full stop! I love that game so much I literally have a tails doll tattoo to show my love for the game. anyway amazing video can't wait for part 2 :)
Heck yeah that's what I love to hear!
"There's no such thing as bad publicity, you only become a loser when you're in undeniable
obscurity"
-Sonic The Hedgehog, 2024
Omg the Sonic browser games from Sonic Zone were my childhood!
It feels so good to watch @Shadow Streak video again after almost a year. Life feels great again.
Having just finished this whole video. I think I know why you got called out for excluding certain games in your spongebob retrospective.
I remember you reviewing that Freddi Fish LCD game in your retrospective on that series so people probably expected the same criteria for both.
Either way, I greatly appreciate your devotion to this series and can't wait for part 2. Keep up the good work.
My new objective is to play every sonic games to the most obvious then the most obscure even only ONE time
In that case, hopefully my videos can serve as a useful guide/checklist for you!
Tbh i was worried you fell off youtube thinking that your videos weren’t doing as well as when you were doing powerpuff girls stuff because you definitely are cooking! I love your new videos man. Keep up the good work
This is the sort of video I like even if I’m not gonna watch it. Somebody puts this much effort into a project the least you can do is help them with the algorithm
You sound very similar to Nathanael Bandy lol. Good video watched the whole thing, can't wait for part 2!
I find that amusing because I actually met him in person once lol
This was a great thing to listen to during work
This video better get the same amount of veiws (or more) as your SpongeBob video, because you deserve it from all the effort you've done shadow🙏. You're the GOAT!
Dude! I recently watched tour SpongeBob video and you uploaded this a week afterward! Perfect🎉
To speak to your bit on automation in the Sonic Adventure bit, I think a lot of people have been soured on how Adventure uses automation and boost pads for its setpieces because it has lead to the future games becoming exponentially more automated, constantly stripping away player agency in favor of shallow spectacle. Just look at Sonic 4. That game started slapping boost pads everywhere because they couldn't be bothered to build any kind of natural physics engine. The fact that in the classic games, the loops acted like speed gates that forced the player to either keep up their speed or take the time to rev a spindash to get through meant that they were more than just spectacle. They had actual gameplay implications and challenge. People pine for that feeling again in an age of "Hold the boost button and watch Sonic run through a bunch of enemies and gimmicks with minimal player input."
To clarify, I personally enjoy the way the loops feel in SA1 and 2 as brief swings on the roller coaster that is the rest of the level. And the fact that sometimes the optimal way to play is to bypass them altogether is very fitting. But I can completely understand how someone can come off the tedious bullet train that is the Boost Formula games, then look at the Adventures and go "Ugh, why are they taking away my controller AGAIN!?"
Yeah I mean I see what happened in future games too so those complaints are valid, but Adventure 1 didn't do that so it shouldn't be bashed for that. It's not Adventure 1's fault that the developers later on decided to automate things more ya know?
We'll be getting to the games where those problems arise and when we do it'll be acknowledged, but yeah I don't think Adventure 1 is at fault at all because within this game it works exactly how I'd want it to.
"EVERY Sonic game"
>Waku Waku Sonic Police Car
Oh my god he really meant EVERY Sonic game
Yes, I mean EVERY Sonic game lmao
Been watching you since your S1 PPG reviews! Keep it up, man. This is an awesome video and I'm super excited to see the next part.
Thanks a ton! I'm glad you're excited for part 2!
DAMN BRO this video is massive shot out to you, like really man the quality is peak i wonder how much time you spent on it
Almost a full year lol
much respect for you
also you have a really great voice to listen to
i am glad to know i am not the only one who liked sonic labyrinth and Tails Adventure 😀
so many people hate them just because they are slow
i believe sonic labyrinth is a cute little puzzle game and Tails Adventure is actually in my top 10 favorite sonic games (because it make total sense as a tails game and also as a person who sucks at metroidvania, i am glad that there is a game in this genre that i can actually finish)
by the way i really appreciate what you are doing 👍
first time i saw this type of videos i wished there was a sonic one as well, and now here we are
There's more where this one came from! Glad somebody else out there appreciates those Game Gear titles too, they seem to be given a worse rep than (some of them) deserve lol.
@@ShadowStreak yeah most of them deserve better but not all of them ( sonic blast definitely deserves the hate 😅 )
I always loved Sonic Blast!
Also, I LOVE the game's soundtrack!
6:31:29 I dunno... I think it might be cooler after the doors close... because it looks like the game is censoring out Sonic violently beating up a room full of badnics.
Haha you know that's a fair point
Someone better tell Charriii5 he's got some competition for most dedicated Sonic player.
Okay, but to defend my 6-year-old self Re: The Barrel of Doom: The fact that jumping onto the barrel and forcing it down ALMOST works is a big red herring. It gives the impression that you just need to time the jumps a little better, dissuading you from trying something completely different.
Plus, I don't think anything else in the franchise up to that point responds to pressing Up and Down like the barrels do.
In fact, I know you call it "basic gaming instinct," but I'm having a hard time thinking of any earlier or contemporary platformer with objects that worked like this. Not in Mario, Mega Man, Castelvania...heck, both Yoshi's Island and Wario Land each have platforms with arrows that you can ride and change their directions...by jumping on them. A couple barrel types in the Donkey Kong Country trilogy are the only things that come to mind, and they have big D-Pads plastered on them.
BASED for your opinion on Sonic Labyrinth!
I'm glad you not only liked Sonic R, but loved it. I too love it, but I feel like I still would have to consider it a guilty pleasure, it's just super clunky but it is ahead of it's time in some ways and the combination of being a racing and platforming game with focus on exploration and collectables is still really awesome and I wish they made a true sequel to it, instead of nostalgia baiting people with Team Sonic Racing.
Bro is gunning for the title of being the Quinton Reviews of video games.
Sorry for repeating myself, but you didn't mention a thing about the story for "Sonic Chaos". I was really expecting you to, and was thrown for a loop.
i wasn’t expecting this so soon 😭
How Shadow Streak combats game criticism: "It's harmless/inoffensive at best"
5:21:39 you have definitely unlocked a core childhood memory of also being mesmerized by this exact same screen saver at my aunts house as a child
Sonic CD is one of my favorite Sonic games
1:16:45 Ah, I see that Tails is following a certain green plumber's footsteps into trying to win a race by doing absolutely nothing.
I love the music for the PC Sonic and Knuckles!
Okay I had a question that kept coming to me throughout the video and I haven’t noticed you mention it so far in the video: seeing as you were also a fan of Brainscratch Commentaries, I have to ask if you got your tendency to say “but I digress” from one of their common guests and friend, The Great ClementJ642? Because personally I found out about BSC through him and I saw you mention them in your intro and was so surprised and happy to learn there are others who also watched these more niche content creators of the time!
That is always something I kept from my childhood “but I digress” :) Can’t wait for pt 2!
oh wow, as someone working on the polish sonic wiki, I recently created a full list with every single sonic game I could find. it took weeks. it's nice to see I wasn't alone in this, and just after watching the rules I can tell how much work you put into this. we need more sonic youtubers acknowledging the most obscure games instead of saying "I beat EVERY sonic game" and proceeding to play only mainline titles. amazing video.
That title scares me but not nearly as much as the video length GEEZ, you've really outShadowed yourself this time Streak!
15:15 "Radical!" "Baudacious!" "Stay In School!" Yeah, that 'tude was everywhere in the '90s.
Thank you!
I've always said Hydro city as well, and Sonic R is a lot of fun and it's soundtrack is awesome.
Hard to believe Shuffle is Sonic's only cel-shaded 'venture.
I expect you to eventually do a review of every Bubsy game in the future to balance out the universe /j
Jokes aside it's nice to see a more nuanced take on games like Sonic Labyrinth and Knuckles' Chaotix. Hearing you swear is very shocking though
Lol I'd swear in old videos but it probably just seems like I'm swearing more because it's condensed into one video rather than spread across multiple.
I didn't expect to get a thank you at 6:09:39, but you're welcome and i cant wait for the next part
I'm not even a sonic fan but I'm watching this because jfc eight hours
Only seven and a half hours? I was expecting something in-depth, Shadow
There are two differences Knuckles makes in Sonic 2 that I remember. 1) You don't lose your rings after doing a special stage like you originally did as Sonic and Tails, and 2) There are extra 1-ups hidden in certain areas that only Knuckles can reach. I specifically remember there being three 1-up boxes on high platforms in Chemical Plant Zone act 1 that Knuckles could climb up and glide to. I know these were added specifically to the Knuckles version because I once went to those areas as Sonic in debug mode and the 1-up boxes weren't in those areas.
40:17 Sonic 1 Game Gear was actually my very first Sonic game and the third video game I ever played after Mario Kart 64 and Super Mario 64 when I was like, three years old in 2000. The Game Gear was my Dad's that he brought on a trip to Italy along with Castle of Illusion, a Duck Tales Game and Sonic 1
It's a game that's near and dear to my heart and there are aspects about it that I actually prefer over the 16 Bit version (Special Stages being one of them)
i can’t wait for the video part that has sa1,2, sonic heroes and sonic shuffle in them
Sonic Crackers/Clackers is so messy/buggy/incomplete cuz its probably a pitch demo. Something thrown together to sell a full game to investors. Crackers/Clackers leading to Chaotix is probably how the development played out.
Hey Shadow, In Sonic 2 on the Game Gear, you can also get Sonic or Tails on the sign at the end of a level.
Also, I think you played showdown's theme instead of the machine when you said you loved those 3 stage themes.
SEGA smash pack was my only way to play Sonic 1 growing up. I have immense nostalgia for the grading sound design 😆
Wow, a reference to Clements old videos. I haven't thought about that in years.
Where?
HOLY SHIT YOU MADE SONICS HALLOWEEN COSTUME??? I JUST GOT A MEMORY UNLOCK MOMENT I LOVED THAT AS A KID LOL
Shadow Streak: Becoming Ls Mark and I’m here for it!
Between its cancellation on a cliffhanger, canceled tie in games like Sonic 16 and Sonic Mars, the cancelled English version of the SegaSonic arcade game, Sonic SatAM really was absolutely cursed with the nastiest case of Murphy’s law.
I know the Archie comics still used those characters, but they also got super cursed later on thanks to people like Ken Penders
what about when Ian Flynn took over for Archie Sonic starting with issue 160?
Now this is what I call way past cool 😁👌
This is gonna be a few movies, and I’m into it
2:48:55 It seems Tails and the Music Maker might also be the only case on Localized Tails' design in a released game.
To expand on the automation part a bit, it seems that people tend to get really offended by just seeing dash panels and automation springs etc. I like seeing it a bit differently.
The thing with dash pads in most of the games, is that they add onto your already existing speed. So whenever I see them, I think "Cool! I can use these to go even faster!" And sure if you just think about it casually, they can be seen solely as automation to help the player forward, but they aren't *just* that. It really is super fun to be going really fast, and going even faster by using dash pads correctly.
Now obviously it's not always done well. In Sonic 4, it doesn't add to your speed, and always locks your speed to a specific value IIRC, and while it is nice to get a speed boost, the game puts them everywhere, and it's not like you can use them consecutively to keep building more and more speed like in other games. Those games are definitely where I agree with the majority that the "automation" is done way too much.
The other point is that, in the boost games, sometimes it's actually faster to *not* use a dash pad. And while that may be seen as iffy game design, I personally like seeing it as another thing I need to keep an eye out for if I want a better run. Instead of mindlessly holding boost, I have to jump over them, and while it's not *much*, it's the little interactions with the boost games that keep me engaged.
So yeah dash pads existing are perfectly fine. While not always done well, as far as I'm concerned, they have mostly added to the experience rather than detracted, but that's just how I feel.
Tails in the Pocket Adventure ending looks like he's contemplating the meaning of life. Lmao
5:48:20
If you saw Death Battle recently, you'd learn from Archie Silver's analysis that the comic Sonic has met Megaman, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, and mutha fluffin' Spawn!
Something I noticed is that SEGA put out a Sonic Platformer every year until 2017.
1991: Sonic 1
1992: Sonic 2
1993: Sonic CD, Chaos
1994: Sonic 3, & Knuckles, Triple Trouble
1995: Knuckles Chaotix
1996: Sonic 3D Blast, Blast
1997: Sonic Jam
1998: Sonic Adventure
1999: Sonic Pocket Adventure
2000: (Some mini games in) Sonic Shuffle
2001: Sonic Adventure 2, Advance
2002: Sonic Advance 2
2003: Sonic Heroes
2004: Sonic Advance 3
2005: Sonic Rush, Shadow the Hedgehog
2006: Sonic the Hedgehog
2007: Sonic & the Secret Rings, Rush Adventure
2008: Sonic Unleashed
2009: Sonic & the Black Knight
2010: Sonic 4 Episode 1, Colors
2011: Sonic Generations
2012: Sonic 4 Episode 2
2013: Sonic Lost World
2014: Sonic Boom Shattered Cristal, Rise of Lyric
2015:... (One exception, there's nothing)
2016: Sonic Boom Fire & Ice
2017: Sonic Mania, Forces
After 2017 there wasn't any new platformer in 2018, 2019, 2020 or 2021.
Frontiers made things go back to normal.
But is there any idea why SEGA stopped releasing any new platformers after 2017?
@Alezander2002Is that 100% confirmed or just speculation?
@Alezander2002 But why didn't SEGA contract Arzest to make a new 2D Sonic game sooner, so there wouldn't be such a massive gap between Forces and Frontiers?
This is gonna be a ride
I'm not even much of a sonic fan, but I'm prepared to watch this- edit: i was so fascinated by all of this old sonic media that i had never heard about that i accidentally stayed up until 6AM, worth it tho
Bro for CD you have to watch the 7 hour video to understand just how much CD shows itself in the design. I used to think like you but after that video my whole view on CD changed. The levels do have speed in mind, but its up to you to use your momentum in a way to have that speed.
This video is so good that I am going to buy sonic adventure on ps3 and finish it before watching you review it
One other thing about Sonic Shuffle. When playing the versus mode, the score calculation is figured out by Emblems and Rings, the Precioustones are pretty much completely pointless. You can see this in the finale of Brainscratch Comms playthrough. Ted got 1 emblem and 57 rings with ZERO Precioustones, but he came in third above Lewis who got 1 emblem, 40 coins, and ONE Precioustone. The only thing getting a Precioustone does is if you get the most over the course of the game you get 1 emblem. So if you're not able to do that, the best strategy is to just completely ignore them and do other stuff.
"needs Sonic in the title"
I guess the Olympics are planned for the future
...
also, what about the LEGO Dimensions Sonic Level?
Yes and yes, both of those are going to be covered!
@@ShadowStreak I finally got to Sonic R
and everytime I see that game
I just go "how do you know where you're going? it's a racing game where it looks like you get last every single time, because you go everywhere and nowhere at the same time"
6:14:05
- "As this design remained from this point forward"
Sonic 06 and the Sonic Movies: *Exists*
06 is the same design just translated to what a "realistic" human being would look like, and the movies are separate from the games lol--if anything, you should've called me out for Sonic Boom, but I also call that a separate series.
That was hilarious how he censored himself by having technical difficulties when he mentioned Dragonball
3&K and Adventure are the definition of LET SONIC TEAM COOK and 'Soul', I hate how people have completely separated them from their context at release, both games packed so much stuff and dared to do what no other games were doing at the time, shame that headstart on the competition wasn't enough to save Sega.
I like how you can tell there were nuggets of ideas from the cancelled games that ended up in later games (I can’t believe the alien planet concept and using them was around for so long before Colors) as well as unused characters who were reworked. Cool to see they always remembered their ideas!
The Brainscratch Team is one of the most iconic players known to man.
i actually performed that Out Of Bounds glitch from the Silver boss fight in Sonic's story that they did in the Sonic 06 playthrough. although with the PS3 version (which i played) the part of Soleana's hub map you can glitch out of bounds in was different then the one they did in the video. as i got the glitch to work at the part of the arena with the door to the forest area
yeah. i ALSO ESCAPED THE BOSS FIGHT! I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT!
You came back? Cool
I wonder if he covered Sonic Eraser.
Can't wait till we get to 2000s, Sonic Advance 2 is where it's at 🔥
Heck yeah love me some Advance 2
I mean the game introduces Cream the Rabbit so that's an automatic W
More of a fan of advance 3 but 2 is still solid
@frostlord1246 I'm actually really excited to talk about the Advance trilogy and use the experience to try and settle on a favorite because all 3 games are great for different reasons!
@ShadowStreak Better brace yourself if you plan on 100%ing them. Advance 2 is fun from a casual standpoint but the devs made grabbing the emeralds and unlocking Amy one the most painful, obnoxious, and flat out evil tasks in video game history
Fun Fact: my first Sonic game was Sonic heroes, a game I still haven't completed yet after all this time
I'm trying my best to find a way to beat it but um the special stages part is my kyptonite
He didn't talk about Knuckles chaotics music...
he...
He...just didn't talk...about Knucles chaotics music...
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The king is back