You Forgot to mention that she isnt a typical gestalt shade. She was artificially made, so she has no replicant counter part so no matter how hard she tried and wanted to be human she couldnt. Popola and Devola say this during one of those extra scenes in playthrough C.
@CavalierEmperor How do you know that their statement means that she was an artificially made Gestalt? What if it's simply that her original Replicant died and that she currently is unavailable to go to the Forest of Myth to get a new body?
@@McSnezzly Then WTF was that human looking person? A random Replicant passerby? It even goes double as Louise's human body complete with bow is reflected in her self image. Plus, as a general rule, ALL Gestalts started off as human once. There had to be a body, or an image of an artificial body in Devola and Popola's records somewhere.
@@TheIntratec9 well I have a Theory. There was a loading screen document of them trying to make a new weapon for red eye. A being who was made artificially from the soul of red eye. And as you can see she has red eyes when she first attacked she may have been a soul of a red eye who became desperate to be a real human as she fell in love. And let's say that as a red eye she cannot become human. As that would be bad. And why else would devola and poppala not want her to end up becoming human eventually.
"In typical Nier fashion, this scene is about 100 milligrams of the big sad beamed directly into your brain." This is now the quote by which I intend to describe this game to others.
I didn’t realize until my 3rd playthrough that the song the postman sings to Louise is the same song that plays during the boss fight. Needless to say it didn’t make the situation any less sad.
The change in C hits so hard I think because up til that point you're kind of on autopilot because everything is the same, and suddenly "NEW BOSS PHASE". It's very cool
I actually didn't even realize it was a route C thing until afterwards. I just thought I wasn't doing enough damage in time beforehand since I spent a good chunk of Route C before Louise just farming levels and mats for weapons.
@@NotAGoodUsername360 He's got a fixation on the Grimm brother's fairy tales. The game was originally going to be about fairy tale villains trying to re-write their stories, most of the supplemental NPCs and bosses in the game are named after fairy tale characters or authors, SINoALICE is all about the grimdark fairy tales... Pretty safe to assume he knew about the original Little Mermaid.
Great explanation. I loved mermaid chapter a lot. The red bag man and his wife side quest fits in perfectly in this world and is pretty hilarious and authentic. I didnt even realize this was a main quest from Popola since you dont feel like anything is truly amiss or going nuts until you get to the ship area. I kind of predicted where playthrough b and c were gonna take this just because I know the game was making me hate Louise early on intentionally to sympathize with her later, but that didnt matter in this case. The red bag man was such a good dude and it really did upset me that his life and marriage came to an end because of the child shade trying to solve her own problem. I teared up pretty hard when having to tell his wife he was gone. I thought lying to her on second playthrough would make it a little easier, but having her doubt he loved her anymore and just ran away bc of an argument made it all feel even worse. Tbh its the only part of the game that I enjoyed playing all 3 times because of how much emotion is involved in all of it in a short span of time: worry for the bag man, fear of the ship, disgust of the slavers, pity for Louise, sympathy for however the hell the postman is supposed to feel, grief for the bag man's wife, annoyance at Tyrann, and the music is just omininous and so sad. There really is hardly any meaning to derive from that whole chain of events too, other than the poetic irony with Louise wanting to be human or the postman trying to be kind which gets ppl killed. The only thing I took from it was best described by Popola when you get back to the villiage: "That poor ferrymen used to tell me stores of the epic quarrels he used to have with his wife. He found the whole thing quite amusing. He loved her though, he loved her with all that he was. I'm very sad to hear that he's gone." Shit was so sad man.
@@nsp6590 red girl aka n2. terminal was probably their real form, with each red girl being a digital avatar of a machine lifeform terminal's os connected to the network, which resulted in their quote of we are many, yet one. at least that's my theory of them.
Another change to the Route C boss fight is that her dialogue isn't just subtitled like in Route B, but the audio is also MUCH less distorted so that you can easily understand what she's saying.
Not just that: - Both Beauvoir and the girl justify their actions based on their desire to be with a particular someone - Their boss battles have a clear musical/operatic theme to them with the singing attacks etc - Both perish never relinquishing but also never fully realising their deepest desires
@@leoseanster though there are also notable differences as Louise fell in love with someone who actually cares about her while Simone fell in love with someone who doesn't even give a shit about her; Louise knows that the man she loves will never accept her for who she is thus strives to change herself while Simone just assumed Jean will fall in love with her if she changes herself.
I recently noticed that also the tree’s voice in the Forest of Myth changes depending on the playthrough. In route A it’s a single deep voice, in route C is definitely resembling the [redacted] guys of ending E.
I wish the Popola and Devola's backup plan was elorabated abit more on, Weiss points out that her power is so "dummy thick" that the sunlight damage she's taking barely effects her. We didn't see the shadowlord brave direct sunlight, implies she has much more power than him. if the murderous Nier and Co hadn't had killed her could she have eventually saved the other Gestalts?? Pretty cool to think about.
She's just meant to subdue the Shadowlord if he ever tries to back out of the Project Gestalt, and since the Twins thought Shadowlord is planning to back out when he locked himself inside the Castle (even the twins can't enter it, thus they needed Replicant Nier's help to search for the Castle key fragments), they brought Louise in their region to be used just in case.
@@Tsuba_Nick from what I understand Shadowlord locked himself in and the twins needed Nier to gather the pieces that would unlock the castle to let them in. But I could be wrong idk I’m replaying right now. Maybe they’re just lazy? Not sure why they couldn’t do it themselves haha
I think the version with Kaine giving the Letter to the postman is better. At this point the game has already shown its hand as far as trying to Kaine away from her anger and misery, and learning to accept herself, and know that not everyone is going to hate her. And this is just another scene of that. In B she is cold and tears up the letter because she doesn’t give a shit about other people, and hates shades. So she wanted nothing to do with that situation beyond killing Louise. But (SPOILERS) at the end of C/D, Tyrann straight up says there’s been a change in her heart. It’s not all anger and sadness anymore, there’s something there he’s never felt, at least for a long time. And Kaine has an emotional moment or two with Nier and blah blah character development. So changing it so that she gives back the letter is great foreshadowing to her slow change of heart, and while I’m not a huge fan of the new Mermaid chapter, I really like this scene. Its just another scene that brings in a healthy shade of grey to a story that started out entirely as black and white.
Yeah, I saw a musical analysis of Kaine's theme, and it basically starts sad and slowly becomes happier, telling the story of her character growth. It makes sense that she would give the letter to the Postman as she begins to sympathize with the shades.
For some reason, I was expecting things to be much more twisted. Since the bodies of the ferryman and the other victims didn't look too mangled, I thought the postman was killing people exploring the ship to protect Louise for creepy reasons, turning against her purely because he found her true form to be too hideous. I was so relieved when I went through it on route B and found out that I was wrong, because I would have been upset if the postman got off scot-free.
At first I just though the Ferryman had stolen the apples to bake a surprise cake for his wife and that the you little girl was helping him. He had mentioned an anniversary last I spoke to him...
In route B Kaine holds the postman a hostage, and then after the boss fight rips the letter apart. Later in while fighting the darklord, you can hear Kaine mentioning to Tyrann that she experienced fear, anger (i think), and empathy. In route C Kaine doesnt hold the postman hostage and later on delivers the message to the postman. chronologically it doesnt make sense that the previous playthrough impacted her actions. but I like to think that its a small touch on how Kaine is changing\developing empathy hanging out with the crew.
Love your sense of humor! Thanks for the great video. Never thought about the irony of the whole "become human" thing before ;) Also, feel like it's appropriate to mention that Louise's theme ("Fleeting Words") is absolutely beautiful and fits the haunted shipwreck kind of story perfectly.
Don't wanna say too much in case someone reading the comments hasn't played NieR Automata yet, but it really gave me the same vibes the themes in that game did, if ya get what I mean.
Like the rest of the game, this episode hit so hard... and I didn’t even know it wasn’t in the original game. Fits well with Route B and onwards theme of Tragic Misunderstandings.
You forgot one other major change between B and C. In C, you can actually understand Louise's lines WITHOUT the subtitles. She's actually speaking the same language as us. Not the weird Shade gobbledigook.
Caught me completely off guard during my play through to get ending c. I thought I had just remembered it different but no she is speaking understandably. I feel the new ending was better it gives Kaine a little more of a redeeming quality.
To be fair hes playing in Japanese lol. Idk if he speeks it, but that may be the reason why he didnt mention being able to understand her. I think this is one game where playing in english is actually really beneficial if thats your native language since theres great voice acting and attention to detail in it
@@saltysgene584 Starting from Route B, you'll be given subtitles. But Louise is the only shade who speaks actual English (or whatever langauage you play in), and only in Route C.
The fact that there's different ways to end this chapter by either dying to the attack or stopping her before it happens just makes me like episode mermaid even more
The thing that intrigues me the most is, why does Louise have red eyes when she attack’s the postman in the cabin. As far as I know Gestalts can’t be infected with WCS or Red Eye Decease and somehow I don’t think that Taro would give her red eyes without any reason.
hmm that's a good point, the gestalts and *maybe* the replicants really are the only people immune to red eye, but she also doesn't have a replicant, so maybe the standard gestalt rules don't apply here
Someone else mentioned she was an artificial gestalt so she never had a replicant counterpart. Similar to how the androids and machines also don't have human counterparts? The Kaine clones in ending E also have the red eye.
@@McSnezzly yeah, the twins specifically made her as a plan b in case the shadow lord didn't play ball (which he wasn't), so they would have used her to strong arm him into cooperation
I just finished Replicant for the first recently and found your video series on the lore and I must say I love it. Your mix of informative yet comedic is very well done. Kudos!
Anybody else noticed if you switch the soundtrack to Automata, A Beautiful Song plays during the last phase, which in Automata played during the boss Simone, the Opera Singer. It is ironic how beauty remains the background theme for both characters: while Simone strives to reach beauty through her body seeking to be liked by Jean-Paul, Louise also despises the ugliness of her own and wishes to be beautiful so she can be with the postman. Also, if I do remember well Automata, Simone also consumed other machines to maintain her beauty. Keichi Okabe, you genius.
While playing 1.22 I was re-reading Grimoire Nier's novellas and it was extremely eerie when I hit that point for the first time while half-way reading The Little Mermaid. Glad I stopped myself from reading any more to prevent spoilers but it's pretty neat to see that.
It’s hard to say which version of the postman letter scene is better. I feel like the second version (where Kaine doesn’t rip up the letter and delivers it to the postman) is better, in the sense that it demonstrates Kaine’s character development (somehow) between routes B and C, and leads to another great moment that forces us as the player to confront the “am I the REAL monster here” theme that underlies the later routes, but a lot of the impact of those moments flows from the fact that Kaine chose to rip up the letter in route B. TL;DR - I like the route C scene(s) more, but I probably wouldn’t have like them as much if I didn’t have the context shown in the route B version.
you know, I never played the original nier, and I had no idea this was new content! It does make sense though, I was wondering why this part didn't give you a fragment
Dam after watching the hole story on another video , is really tragic . She really deserved better , if only all the others could have understand what she was saying and her fellings , or of any Shade for that matter . The story is one big missunderstanding.
Kaine ripping the letter in ending B because she already saw the postman broke down seeing Louise as a shade but in ending C the postman didnt broke down thus Kaine giving Louise's letter to the postman.
I was curious about your take on something that happens during this quest. While the party is going back and forth between Seafront and Nier’s Village, Weiss asks Nier if he has ever penned a missive/written a letter, to which Nier says “No, I’m not big on writing letters, I never know what to say” etc- however, Yonah’s journal entries make mention of “letters from Nier” several times. Do you think this is simply a case of two different people writing those parts of the game? Or is there supposed to be some deeper meaning here, like maybe Popola is actually the one writing the letters to Yonah? I’m probably overthinking it but was curious if anyone else found that odd
You’re a genius, I didn’t even consider the fact that Nier wasn’t the one sending letters to yonah BUT now that I am thinking about it deeper, it conflicts with “saving” where nier is literally writing a letter documenting his journey, and this is how yonah knows everything he is doing.
@@Justice17 yeah the save points kinda defeat this theory on closer inspection. It only popped in my head because of how often the whole “this letter was really written by (blank)” thing occurs. The postman’s letters to the lighthouse lady, Sebastian’s letter to Yonah, and the letter from the Aerie Chief. Still, it is an odd bit of dialogue.
I believe that is a translation mistake. I study japanese at university, I played the game with japanese dub and in japanese when Weiss asks "Have you ever written letters?" Nier responds "I HAVE, but [etc.]" Edit: also if you try to save during a battle Weiss says something like "It's not the right timing to write letters" (don't remember the exact phrase sorry) implying that when we save we are probably sending letters back home to Yona
The biggest difference really seems to be Louise's Shade form; checking the short story, she's described as taking some angelic-ish form with a crapload of wings, while the game sticks to a more kraken-like appearance. Honestly, I think the game version makes a bit more sense, considering the whole nautical theme going on here between the shipwreck and Louise being a "mermaid", though I'm definitely curious to see how the story version would look.
I wish I could have heard more about the other MVP of this new content. My man the Bag Man. Gave Nier a good meal an a night to actually be happy for once, and tells you plenty of little entertaining stories about him and his wife before fast travel trips (if you do his sidequest). As a new player I actually didn't know he was new at first. He fit right in. Because of his various appearances, and his funny stories livening up fast travel, his loss actually feels p bad. Fast travel is worse once he's gone. He's the teams secret MVP, alongside Sechs, and the boar who I named Crash cus I'm an awful driver. Also one of the best incidental NPCs alongside the Postman, the Fishing Master, and the Lighthouse Lady. Also fun fact the Postman has a name apparently, Hans.
This and ending e were cut from the original release and were put into grimoire nier to show the fans what was cut so they weren't completely missing out on the full story but now we finally get to play this stuff for real and man is it sad as shit.
The part that got me very sad is when you had to kill the robot in the young shade that stuff ripped my heart Just imagine you just want to be with your best friend forever and some a****** comes along and kills both of use
Nah bruh, this is Yoko Taro spin on the original Hans Christian Andersen The little mermaid. Which is a story of basically to become human she needed a way to gain a human soul to be with a handsome prince she fell in love with first time she saw humanity. Mermaids have no souls and can live for 300 years. In this case Shades can live forever but lost their humanity with degradation. But this Yoko Taro mermaid was also a manufactured shade which means she didn't start out actually human. The Mermaid will obtain a soul only if she wins the love of the prince and marries him from a spell, but it's can turn into a curse if he marries another woman and she will die. But another woman stands in her way now and has to kill this new bride so that she can stay alive at least as she has not won the prince's heart. The mermaid chose to not murder the woman and although she dies from failing to kill the woman but still gains a human soul from her human act. In this case Louise the RED EYE Shade want's to be physically human for the person that has shown her love and kindness and stay with him.
I actually kinda hated this part. She doesn’t give you and fragments and just feels like an obstacle to the main story beats. Also the relationship between Louise and the postman is unrealistic. Like keeping her isolated on the ship without telling anyone or trying to get her off the ship makes no sense. It only makes sense if the postman is a groomer or has a room temperature IQ.
Also why does she have a human form when none of the other shades do? She looks even more human than the Shadowlord. Like they totally wanted us to think she’s cute. It’d be fine as a side quest or something but it’s awkward in the main story. Doesn’t feel like it’s written by Yoko Taro or the original team either. It’s uncanny.
"eat enough humans she can become one".....anyone else see a bit of Zero Two in here? (in her case, she thought killing claxosaurs would make her human)
Bit late and SPOILERY but I don't feel like Louise was a "backup plan for the shadowlord" with regards to Devola and Popola. What 1.22 makes clearer than the original was that Shadowlord was off doing his own thing, independent of the android twin overseers. This left them to run around trying to pick up the pieces left in his wake and salvage the project. The original game, by my memory, was pretty vague about exactly how closely linked the twins were with ol Shady, which validated the feeling of betrayal even in route C and D. I get a really different feeling in 1.22 from that fight because its made abundantly clear in my opinion, with the added scenes, that the twins were never secretly helping him behind your back at all, as evidenced by their talk of Louise and also not knowing where he was hiding. Though they should probably have checked his castle?
i mean isnt not a prequel? the reason why i think kaine doesnt give the letter to the postman is because before killing her IF you get knockout by her the postman will say "We can NEVER be together, you DISGUST me" BUT if you knock her out instead he will never say that leading that to kaine actualy giving him the letter to the post man.
Prequels are defined as "something that came out after [thing] but takes place before chronologically" So NieR is in no way a prequel, but it does make sense why people would call RepliCant that, since the OG wasn't very well-known :(
Please remember this everyone.....this game makes you cry for killing the bosses..... I have actually cried in this playthrough..... Still haven't finished C as I need a break.... But yeah.... This game actually makes you feel bad when killing the enemies, so much so I completely ignore the shades of they aren't needed for the story.... Like no joke...
You miss 2 points from Run C : 1- Devola and Popola mention that unlike other Gestalt she doesn't have a receptacle and therefore she can't become human, so in run C you realise there is no irony she really isn't human, the tragedy is she can't become one. 2- In Run C she is actually able to speak normal language, altough it's mix with Shade's language but if you listen closely she is actually speaking normally, this reinforce the tragedy as this mean she was actually really close to her goal, and be able to express her feelings to the postman. Also another more subtle thing, her wave attack's symbol during the boss fight can actually be translate by "I want to become human."
Any thoughts on the significance of her eyes turning red when she's outed as being a shade? I think this is the first/only case of a shade apparently being a red eye. I mean, the entire point of the Gestalt project was to save humans from having to make a pact with the other world's God or die, and yet here we see a Gestalt that apparently did make a pact?
I'm probably watching these out of order, but the slave ship might be the "goat people" from Incarnation? There might be more of a connection with the postman motif then you though, and fios was possibly this shade?
Personally I'm bias because I obviously played the game and haven't read the book but honestly that only matters a little bit in this analysis about the story telling. Her giving the postman the letter Is the better ending because it makes the "thank you" that much better in route C. Like I watched a play through of old nier and if I would have experienced it like that I would have been slightly disappointed. More importantly it's develops the relationships between Kaine and nier more. Because it's clear that she views herself as the mermaid and Nier as the postman or basically herself as a freak and nier as the one who is trying to make her normal.
What do you think the relevance of Louise being on the Slaver's ship was? Louise being a girl aboard a slave ship where horrible atrocities were committed and also constantly lamenting about how her whole life nobody ever helped her seems pretty intimately related. But the slave ship was a ship full of replicant slavers whereas Louise is a shade? So was she a slave aboard the replicant slaver's ship? Was she simply deployed at sea by Devola and Popola and just so happened to coincidentally attack a slaver's ship (which sorta makes the slaver's ship a red herring)? What's her history? Does she even have a history? She seems to since again, she states how nobody ever helped her or loved her. But where was she before this?
I also feel a little itch when people call Replicant the prequel to Automata. I feel like both games stand on their own, but the marketing for Replicant is trying to bank off of Automata's success too much I feel.
It’s smart marketing. Automata was the first real success in the Drakengard/Nier series, and most people who played it remember it very fondly and crave for more, but know how inaccessible the earlier titles can be. Square heard all this and greenlit a remake to capitalize off its success. Now if they half assed the remake, it would be scummy as hell. But it’s done so well while still keeping true to the original release that it’s doing exactly what Automata fans wanted, giving them more.
Hmmm I always felt like that was just new fans' way of tryin' to make sense of the connection between the two games. I mean, the timeline is confusing enough during Automata-- you toss in everythin' else and it's to be expected that newer players are gonna try to benchmark their entry series. NieR: Gestalt was my first official playthrough of this series 10 years ago and I still refer to the games released before and after prequels and sequels when talkin' about it as a whole.
What? It always has been the prequel. Nier Automata clearly referenced the OG Nier (both, Relicant ans Gestalt, due to both of them being canon) multiple times - in terms of certain characters and also in terms of the overarching lore. Or do you mean people think Automata was first and now they have developed a prequel afterwards?
Also the dlc in your house. Best be lvl 33 for that. I promise you won't regret it from my experience. Then again I played the original and loved it so much. This is even better
Completely understandable, but I can assure you that the last endings are definitely worth it if you've grown to care for the characters. It's just a matter of actually doing the things again to get new things lol
Does anyone know what song is playing during the outro, starting around 16:14? It sounds like Fleeting words (family) but maybe a higher pitch or key. Anyone have a clue?
The protagonist has been called Nier in official sources so it's not wrong to call him Nier Ending C version is absolutely better. Not only is the gameplay section better with you being able to actually beat her sections instead of being No U'd, you actually play. Plus, the expansion on the Postmans character is way better in C.
I don't think she's exactly a shade that uses her powers to appear human. I think she was a slave on the ship that got attacked by the giant Gestalt, and similarly to Kainé, became possessed by it, and has to fight to maintain her human form.
What if the Shades actually *are* speaking in "human voices" and the replicants (and therefore the player) just can't understand it, because *they* are the ones using a different language?
Quite ironical that a rampant human soul wants to become human... Just think, she IS the most human thing there (aside from Emile and Weiss)! *(I wrote this literally seconds before you bring it up)*
Idk , but Emils head looks like a moon 🌝, also those chickens I’ve seen em before , were the green elf saves the day , lol (whispered) sortah , I don’t think his an elf idk
one extra thing that u didn't touch on, is her voice becomes more clearer with each playthrough, to where playthrough d you don't even have to read subtitles to understand
You Forgot to mention that she isnt a typical gestalt shade. She was artificially made, so she has no replicant counter part so no matter how hard she tried and wanted to be human she couldnt. Popola and Devola say this during one of those extra scenes in playthrough C.
@CavalierEmperor How do you know that their statement means that she was an artificially made Gestalt? What if it's simply that her original Replicant died and that she currently is unavailable to go to the Forest of Myth to get a new body?
@@TheIntratec9 They specifically say she can never look human
@@McSnezzly Then WTF was that human looking person? A random Replicant passerby?
It even goes double as Louise's human body complete with bow is reflected in her self image.
Plus, as a general rule, ALL Gestalts started off as human once. There had to be a body, or an image of an artificial body in Devola and Popola's records somewhere.
@@TheIntratec9 if a replicant dies
There will be another one created so the only explanation might be she is not like other shades
@@TheIntratec9 well I have a Theory. There was a loading screen document of them trying to make a new weapon for red eye. A being who was made artificially from the soul of red eye. And as you can see she has red eyes when she first attacked she may have been a soul of a red eye who became desperate to be a real human as she fell in love.
And let's say that as a red eye she cannot become human. As that would be bad. And why else would devola and poppala not want her to end up becoming human eventually.
The fear created by the atmosphere of the ghost ship: 5/10
The fear created by the realization that a quest is now uncompletable: 11/10
The most relatable comment ever I was even considering going to my old save because of it but thankfully there is route B and C
I know exactly what you mean 😂. I was 99% completed on a quest for my first playthrough and I couldn’t figure what the problem was.
"In typical Nier fashion, this scene is about 100 milligrams of the big sad beamed directly into your brain."
This is now the quote by which I intend to describe this game to others.
Please do
That's quote worthy. Thanks for giving us your permission 🤣
1st playthrough: im going to interact with everything on the boat
4th playthrough: i can literaly just rush the keys and not touch anything
Literally could not have said it better
People decoded the angelic words coming out from her singing attack. It says "I want to be human!"
Where's Verdelet with those fire ass bars when you need him.
I didn’t realize until my 3rd playthrough that the song the postman sings to Louise is the same song that plays during the boss fight. Needless to say it didn’t make the situation any less sad.
Yep Fleeting words one of the new additions in the Nier Replicant ost
The change in C hits so hard I think because up til that point you're kind of on autopilot because everything is the same, and suddenly "NEW BOSS PHASE". It's very cool
I actually didn't even realize it was a route C thing until afterwards. I just thought I wasn't doing enough damage in time beforehand since I spent a good chunk of Route C before Louise just farming levels and mats for weapons.
It's a route locked to C? Fuck, and here I was celebrating finally doing enough damage and getting high of the dopamine.
So this mermaid quest is actually one of the novellas in grimore Nier titled “The little mermaid” if anyone would like to know
Yeah, it is
I wonder if Yoko Taro knows about the original story and how the mermaid dies because she can't bear to kill the human she fell in love with.
@@NotAGoodUsername360 i think that’s what he had in mind
He says this in the video
@@NotAGoodUsername360 He's got a fixation on the Grimm brother's fairy tales. The game was originally going to be about fairy tale villains trying to re-write their stories, most of the supplemental NPCs and bosses in the game are named after fairy tale characters or authors, SINoALICE is all about the grimdark fairy tales...
Pretty safe to assume he knew about the original Little Mermaid.
Great explanation. I loved mermaid chapter a lot. The red bag man and his wife side quest fits in perfectly in this world and is pretty hilarious and authentic. I didnt even realize this was a main quest from Popola since you dont feel like anything is truly amiss or going nuts until you get to the ship area. I kind of predicted where playthrough b and c were gonna take this just because I know the game was making me hate Louise early on intentionally to sympathize with her later, but that didnt matter in this case. The red bag man was such a good dude and it really did upset me that his life and marriage came to an end because of the child shade trying to solve her own problem. I teared up pretty hard when having to tell his wife he was gone. I thought lying to her on second playthrough would make it a little easier, but having her doubt he loved her anymore and just ran away bc of an argument made it all feel even worse. Tbh its the only part of the game that I enjoyed playing all 3 times because of how much emotion is involved in all of it in a short span of time: worry for the bag man, fear of the ship, disgust of the slavers, pity for Louise, sympathy for however the hell the postman is supposed to feel, grief for the bag man's wife, annoyance at Tyrann, and the music is just omininous and so sad.
There really is hardly any meaning to derive from that whole chain of events too, other than the poetic irony with Louise wanting to be human or the postman trying to be kind which gets ppl killed. The only thing I took from it was best described by Popola when you get back to the villiage: "That poor ferrymen used to tell me stores of the epic quarrels he used to have with his wife. He found the whole thing quite amusing. He loved her though, he loved her with all that he was. I'm very sad to hear that he's gone."
Shit was so sad man.
Simone from Automata parallels Louise from Replicant.
Also Louise looks strikingly similar to the red girl from the Tower in Automata.
I assume you're referring to the terminal?
@@nsp6590 red girl aka n2. terminal was probably their real form, with each red girl being a digital avatar of a machine lifeform terminal's os connected to the network, which resulted in their quote of we are many, yet one. at least that's my theory of them.
Another change to the Route C boss fight is that her dialogue isn't just subtitled like in Route B, but the audio is also MUCH less distorted so that you can easily understand what she's saying.
Wait, she seems to think she can become human if she eats more people! Beauvoir echoes
If you use the 4YoRHa music pack, she even gets A Beautiful Song as her battle music
You are what you eat afterall XD
Not just that:
- Both Beauvoir and the girl justify their actions based on their desire to be with a particular someone
- Their boss battles have a clear musical/operatic theme to them with the singing attacks etc
- Both perish never relinquishing but also never fully realising their deepest desires
@@leoseanster though there are also notable differences as Louise fell in love with someone who actually cares about her while Simone fell in love with someone who doesn't even give a shit about her; Louise knows that the man she loves will never accept her for who she is thus strives to change herself while Simone just assumed Jean will fall in love with her if she changes herself.
I'm not sure if its just me but I think Louise's voice in Route C when she dies is a little clearer than in Route B.
You are correct
I recently noticed that also the tree’s voice in the Forest of Myth changes depending on the playthrough. In route A it’s a single deep voice, in route C is definitely resembling the [redacted] guys of ending E.
That's because the more playthrough will make all shades talk clearly, I'm noticed it from old Nier game
Sounded like a female voice tho iirc
His name is NieR if for no other reason then to Spite Yoko Taro vehemently saying otherwise.
Haha true true
Emil literally dresses him as NieR in a cutscene.. unless I misunderstood that scene.
@@ImCarpet no the subtitle just puts any name that you give him
@@Dr.Farewell I rewatched the scene.. the subtitle says the name you put, but Emil actually says NieR
I love how Yoko Taro's own fandom has bullied him into begrudgingly agreeing his default name is NieR even though it apparently means "Curse"
I wish the Popola and Devola's backup plan was elorabated abit more on, Weiss points out that her power is so "dummy thick" that the sunlight damage she's taking barely effects her. We didn't see the shadowlord brave direct sunlight, implies she has much more power than him. if the murderous Nier and Co hadn't had killed her could she have eventually saved the other Gestalts?? Pretty cool to think about.
She's just meant to subdue the Shadowlord if he ever tries to back out of the Project Gestalt, and since the Twins thought Shadowlord is planning to back out when he locked himself inside the Castle (even the twins can't enter it, thus they needed Replicant Nier's help to search for the Castle key fragments), they brought Louise in their region to be used just in case.
@fg009le tyrds Do we know why the twins couldn't/chose to not enter and sent Nier instead?
@@Tsuba_Nick from what I understand Shadowlord locked himself in and the twins needed Nier to gather the pieces that would unlock the castle to let them in. But I could be wrong idk I’m replaying right now. Maybe they’re just lazy? Not sure why they couldn’t do it themselves haha
I think the version with Kaine giving the Letter to the postman is better. At this point the game has already shown its hand as far as trying to Kaine away from her anger and misery, and learning to accept herself, and know that not everyone is going to hate her. And this is just another scene of that. In B she is cold and tears up the letter because she doesn’t give a shit about other people, and hates shades. So she wanted nothing to do with that situation beyond killing Louise.
But (SPOILERS) at the end of C/D, Tyrann straight up says there’s been a change in her heart. It’s not all anger and sadness anymore, there’s something there he’s never felt, at least for a long time. And Kaine has an emotional moment or two with Nier and blah blah character development. So changing it so that she gives back the letter is great foreshadowing to her slow change of heart, and while I’m not a huge fan of the new Mermaid chapter, I really like this scene. Its just another scene that brings in a healthy shade of grey to a story that started out entirely as black and white.
In B it had me like why kaine, some of the situation with kaine would have been solved with her involvement instead i was like you a piece of shit.
Your profile pic is so funny lol
@@MetsoDaPlugg thanks.
Yeah, I saw a musical analysis of Kaine's theme, and it basically starts sad and slowly becomes happier, telling the story of her character growth. It makes sense that she would give the letter to the Postman as she begins to sympathize with the shades.
I loved playthrough C. Not only do we learn more about Lousie and her desire, she able to rest in peace with Kaine giving the postman her letter.
I started with the remaster, and this short story honestly hit harder than any of the endings lmao
For some reason, I was expecting things to be much more twisted. Since the bodies of the ferryman and the other victims didn't look too mangled, I thought the postman was killing people exploring the ship to protect Louise for creepy reasons, turning against her purely because he found her true form to be too hideous. I was so relieved when I went through it on route B and found out that I was wrong, because I would have been upset if the postman got off scot-free.
Wow I had this exact thought
When just a simple scene or a music cue evokes tears. I absolutely loved this addition to the game.
At first I just though the Ferryman had stolen the apples to bake a surprise cake for his wife and that the you little girl was helping him. He had mentioned an anniversary last I spoke to him...
you missed talking about the postman asking kaine about peroids
So, found this channel from a random ass community post and I'm not disappointed, very much looking forward to more because this is good stuff
Haha thanks a lot! Hope you like it. Which community post led you to it?
In route B Kaine holds the postman a hostage, and then after the boss fight rips the letter apart. Later in while fighting the darklord, you can hear Kaine mentioning to Tyrann that she experienced fear, anger (i think), and empathy.
In route C Kaine doesnt hold the postman hostage and later on delivers the message to the postman. chronologically it doesnt make sense that the previous playthrough impacted her actions. but I like to think that its a small touch on how Kaine is changing\developing empathy hanging out with the crew.
So I guess I’m not the only one who thought dash + heavy attack was a faster way of moving around.
Certainly gives the hands something to do
Love your sense of humor! Thanks for the great video. Never thought about the irony of the whole "become human" thing before ;) Also, feel like it's appropriate to mention that Louise's theme ("Fleeting Words") is absolutely beautiful and fits the haunted shipwreck kind of story perfectly.
Don't wanna say too much in case someone reading the comments hasn't played NieR Automata yet, but it really gave me the same vibes the themes in that game did, if ya get what I mean.
Like the rest of the game, this episode hit so hard... and I didn’t even know it wasn’t in the original game. Fits well with Route B and onwards theme of Tragic Misunderstandings.
I think Route C's ideation is the best. It gives Louise a lot of personality, ties things up in a nice bow, and gives her the perfect ending.
I should point out that even though Yoko Taro never calls him Nier, Emil does in the last section of part right as he's being pulled back.
You forgot one other major change between B and C. In C, you can actually understand Louise's lines WITHOUT the subtitles.
She's actually speaking the same language as us. Not the weird Shade gobbledigook.
Caught me completely off guard during my play through to get ending c. I thought I had just remembered it different but no she is speaking understandably. I feel the new ending was better it gives Kaine a little more of a redeeming quality.
To be fair hes playing in Japanese lol. Idk if he speeks it, but that may be the reason why he didnt mention being able to understand her. I think this is one game where playing in english is actually really beneficial if thats your native language since theres great voice acting and attention to detail in it
Wut?
Isn't the more playthrough will make all shades talk clearly?
@@saltysgene584 Starting from Route B, you'll be given subtitles. But Louise is the only shade who speaks actual English (or whatever langauage you play in), and only in Route C.
The fact that there's different ways to end this chapter by either dying to the attack or stopping her before it happens just makes me like episode mermaid even more
This new chapter made me experience the big sad even in Route A man 😔
The thing that intrigues me the most is, why does Louise have red eyes when she attack’s the postman in the cabin. As far as I know Gestalts can’t be infected with WCS or Red Eye Decease and somehow I don’t think that Taro would give her red eyes without any reason.
hmm that's a good point, the gestalts and *maybe* the replicants really are the only people immune to red eye, but she also doesn't have a replicant, so maybe the standard gestalt rules don't apply here
Someone else mentioned she was an artificial gestalt so she never had a replicant counterpart. Similar to how the androids and machines also don't have human counterparts? The Kaine clones in ending E also have the red eye.
@@McSnezzly yeah, the twins specifically made her as a plan b in case the shadow lord didn't play ball (which he wasn't), so they would have used her to strong arm him into cooperation
I just finished Replicant for the first recently and found your video series on the lore and I must say I love it. Your mix of informative yet comedic is very well done. Kudos!
Anybody else noticed if you switch the soundtrack to Automata, A Beautiful Song plays during the last phase, which in Automata played during the boss Simone, the Opera Singer.
It is ironic how beauty remains the background theme for both characters: while Simone strives to reach beauty through her body seeking to be liked by Jean-Paul, Louise also despises the ugliness of her own and wishes to be beautiful so she can be with the postman. Also, if I do remember well Automata, Simone also consumed other machines to maintain her beauty.
Keichi Okabe, you genius.
This quality content is amazing, keep it up and thank you for it
Thanks a lot! Will keep on it
The music in this battle is frigging AMAZING.
I'm enjoying your content :) I just finished all of then endings and it was a wonderfully done remake.
Glad you like it! Truly was the perfect remake.
While playing 1.22 I was re-reading Grimoire Nier's novellas and it was extremely eerie when I hit that point for the first time while half-way reading The Little Mermaid. Glad I stopped myself from reading any more to prevent spoilers but it's pretty neat to see that.
It’s hard to say which version of the postman letter scene is better. I feel like the second version (where Kaine doesn’t rip up the letter and delivers it to the postman) is better, in the sense that it demonstrates Kaine’s character development (somehow) between routes B and C, and leads to another great moment that forces us as the player to confront the “am I the REAL monster here” theme that underlies the later routes, but a lot of the impact of those moments flows from the fact that Kaine chose to rip up the letter in route B.
TL;DR - I like the route C scene(s) more, but I probably wouldn’t have like them as much if I didn’t have the context shown in the route B version.
you know, I never played the original nier, and I had no idea this was new content! It does make sense though, I was wondering why this part didn't give you a fragment
Dam after watching the hole story on another video , is really tragic . She really deserved better , if only all the others could have understand what she was saying and her fellings , or of any Shade for that matter . The story is one big missunderstanding.
Eating people is a big no-no.
Thank you for the content. Left a like since I never played this game and papa bear has little time per day haha
Kaine ripping the letter in ending B because she already saw the postman broke down seeing Louise as a shade but in ending C the postman didnt broke down thus Kaine giving Louise's letter to the postman.
I was curious about your take on something that happens during this quest. While the party is going back and forth between Seafront and Nier’s Village, Weiss asks Nier if he has ever penned a missive/written a letter, to which Nier says “No, I’m not big on writing letters, I never know what to say” etc- however, Yonah’s journal entries make mention of “letters from Nier” several times. Do you think this is simply a case of two different people writing those parts of the game? Or is there supposed to be some deeper meaning here, like maybe Popola is actually the one writing the letters to Yonah? I’m probably overthinking it but was curious if anyone else found that odd
You’re a genius, I didn’t even consider the fact that Nier wasn’t the one sending letters to yonah BUT now that I am thinking about it deeper, it conflicts with “saving” where nier is literally writing a letter documenting his journey, and this is how yonah knows everything he is doing.
@@Justice17 yeah the save points kinda defeat this theory on closer inspection. It only popped in my head because of how often the whole “this letter was really written by (blank)” thing occurs. The postman’s letters to the lighthouse lady, Sebastian’s letter to Yonah, and the letter from the Aerie Chief. Still, it is an odd bit of dialogue.
Remember the letters written in Emil's name that were in actuality written by his butler? You might be onto something.
I believe that is a translation mistake. I study japanese at university, I played the game with japanese dub and in japanese when Weiss asks "Have you ever written letters?" Nier responds "I HAVE, but [etc.]"
Edit: also if you try to save during a battle Weiss says something like "It's not the right timing to write letters" (don't remember the exact phrase sorry) implying that when we save we are probably sending letters back home to Yona
Louis can actually sing she’s the one singing the song during the boss fight
I am in love with Tyrann's and Weiss's english voice actors
Mermaid girl couldn't withstand the power that is...
Postman may cry
0:14 OMG I KNOW THE FEELING!!!! I'M GIVING THE VIDEO A LIKE FOR THAT
Word
The biggest difference really seems to be Louise's Shade form; checking the short story, she's described as taking some angelic-ish form with a crapload of wings, while the game sticks to a more kraken-like appearance. Honestly, I think the game version makes a bit more sense, considering the whole nautical theme going on here between the shipwreck and Louise being a "mermaid", though I'm definitely curious to see how the story version would look.
I can't really imagine what shade-style wings would even look like. Even the shadowlord's 'wings' are just his cape spread out.
I wish I could have heard more about the other MVP of this new content. My man the Bag Man.
Gave Nier a good meal an a night to actually be happy for once, and tells you plenty of little entertaining stories about him and his wife before fast travel trips (if you do his sidequest). As a new player I actually didn't know he was new at first. He fit right in.
Because of his various appearances, and his funny stories livening up fast travel, his loss actually feels p bad. Fast travel is worse once he's gone. He's the teams secret MVP, alongside Sechs, and the boar who I named Crash cus I'm an awful driver. Also one of the best incidental NPCs alongside the Postman, the Fishing Master, and the Lighthouse Lady.
Also fun fact the Postman has a name apparently, Hans.
This and ending e were cut from the original release and were put into grimoire nier to show the fans what was cut so they weren't completely missing out on the full story but now we finally get to play this stuff for real and man is it sad as shit.
The part that got me very sad is when you had to kill the robot in the young shade that stuff ripped my heart
Just imagine you just want to be with your best friend forever and some a****** comes along and kills both of use
Nah bruh, this is Yoko Taro spin on the original Hans Christian Andersen The little mermaid.
Which is a story of basically to become human she needed a way to gain a human soul to be with a handsome prince she fell in love with first time she saw humanity. Mermaids have no souls and can live for 300 years. In this case Shades can live forever but lost their humanity with degradation. But this Yoko Taro mermaid was also a manufactured shade which means she didn't start out actually human.
The Mermaid will obtain a soul only if she wins the love of the prince and marries him from a spell, but it's can turn into a curse if he marries another woman and she will die. But another woman stands in her way now and has to kill this new bride so that she can stay alive at least as she has not won the prince's heart. The mermaid chose to not murder the woman and although she dies from failing to kill the woman but still gains a human soul from her human act.
In this case Louise the RED EYE Shade want's to be physically human for the person that has shown her love and kindness and stay with him.
I actually kinda hated this part. She doesn’t give you and fragments and just feels like an obstacle to the main story beats. Also the relationship between Louise and the postman is unrealistic. Like keeping her isolated on the ship without telling anyone or trying to get her off the ship makes no sense. It only makes sense if the postman is a groomer or has a room temperature IQ.
Also why does she have a human form when none of the other shades do? She looks even more human than the Shadowlord. Like they totally wanted us to think she’s cute. It’d be fine as a side quest or something but it’s awkward in the main story. Doesn’t feel like it’s written by Yoko Taro or the original team either. It’s uncanny.
Plans on translating more Reincarnation content? I'd love to see the new Dimis Event story
You're doing god's work honestly regardless of content.
Yeah, I do plan on translating the full NieR Reincarnation story. Just been focusing on Replicant cause it just came out.
"eat enough humans she can become one".....anyone else see a bit of Zero Two in here? (in her case, she thought killing claxosaurs would make her human)
Kaine said ''she's gonna wake up soon'', what does that mean??
Yeah i was wondering that too
Bit late and SPOILERY but I don't feel like Louise was a "backup plan for the shadowlord" with regards to Devola and Popola. What 1.22 makes clearer than the original was that Shadowlord was off doing his own thing, independent of the android twin overseers. This left them to run around trying to pick up the pieces left in his wake and salvage the project.
The original game, by my memory, was pretty vague about exactly how closely linked the twins were with ol Shady, which validated the feeling of betrayal even in route C and D. I get a really different feeling in 1.22 from that fight because its made abundantly clear in my opinion, with the added scenes, that the twins were never secretly helping him behind your back at all, as evidenced by their talk of Louise and also not knowing where he was hiding. Though they should probably have checked his castle?
i mean isnt not a prequel?
the reason why i think kaine doesnt give the letter to the postman is because before killing her IF you get knockout by her the postman will say "We can NEVER be together, you DISGUST me" BUT if you knock her out instead he will never say that leading that to kaine actualy giving him the letter to the post man.
I mean it's not really a prequal you could say it is but it's not
Prequels are defined as "something that came out after [thing] but takes place before chronologically"
So NieR is in no way a prequel, but it does make sense why people would call RepliCant that, since the OG wasn't very well-known :(
How do you knock her out?
@@amolsol You can only actually defeat her yourself on the 3rd playthrough, or "Route C"
@@amolsol you need more damage, charge for full Lance without moving
Please remember this everyone.....this game makes you cry for killing the bosses..... I have actually cried in this playthrough..... Still haven't finished C as I need a break.... But yeah.... This game actually makes you feel bad when killing the enemies, so much so I completely ignore the shades of they aren't needed for the story.... Like no joke...
You miss 2 points from Run C :
1- Devola and Popola mention that unlike other Gestalt she doesn't have a receptacle and therefore she can't become human, so in run C you realise there is no irony she really isn't human, the tragedy is she can't become one.
2- In Run C she is actually able to speak normal language, altough it's mix with Shade's language but if you listen closely she is actually speaking normally, this reinforce the tragedy as this mean she was actually really close to her goal, and be able to express her feelings to the postman.
Also another more subtle thing, her wave attack's symbol during the boss fight can actually be translate by "I want to become human."
5:04 O I thought you were talking about Kainé here :D
Nier plucks the heart strings so much harder than Automata
Any thoughts on the significance of her eyes turning red when she's outed as being a shade?
I think this is the first/only case of a shade apparently being a red eye. I mean, the entire point of the Gestalt project was to save humans from having to make a pact with the other world's God or die, and yet here we see a Gestalt that apparently did make a pact?
Its also odd considering she doesn't have a replicant to go to either.
Huh. Interesting. Just thought that was cool visual effect. The lore deepens then.
Did the design of the boss monster remind anyone else of alligator snapping turtles and the way they use their tongue to lure fish?
they really should've given the postman a fucking name at this point lmao
I think they should let us play as Kaine in route b, since we understand the shades and we can hear tyrann talking.
I had no idea it was a new addition. Never played the PS2 version so I thought it was part of the story. Soon good
Fun fact: if you ignore the singing pipe and go straight down the game trolls you by not letting you find the lantern for a whole 2 minutes
I didnt even realize, but if the Mermaid segment was all new, then the red bag couple side quests were also new content I guess?
I'm probably watching these out of order, but the slave ship might be the "goat people" from Incarnation? There might be more of a connection with the postman motif then you though, and fios was possibly this shade?
I died the hardest when kaine gave the dude the letter
Dread this place on play-through 4.......ACCURATE AF
Personally I'm bias because I obviously played the game and haven't read the book but honestly that only matters a little bit in this analysis about the story telling.
Her giving the postman the letter Is the better ending because it makes the "thank you" that much better in route C. Like I watched a play through of old nier and if I would have experienced it like that I would have been slightly disappointed.
More importantly it's develops the relationships between Kaine and nier more. Because it's clear that she views herself as the mermaid and Nier as the postman or basically herself as a freak and nier as the one who is trying to make her normal.
What do you think the relevance of Louise being on the Slaver's ship was? Louise being a girl aboard a slave ship where horrible atrocities were committed and also constantly lamenting about how her whole life nobody ever helped her seems pretty intimately related.
But the slave ship was a ship full of replicant slavers whereas Louise is a shade? So was she a slave aboard the replicant slaver's ship? Was she simply deployed at sea by Devola and Popola and just so happened to coincidentally attack a slaver's ship (which sorta makes the slaver's ship a red herring)? What's her history? Does she even have a history? She seems to since again, she states how nobody ever helped her or loved her. But where was she before this?
I also feel a little itch when people call Replicant the prequel to Automata. I feel like both games stand on their own, but the marketing for Replicant is trying to bank off of Automata's success too much I feel.
It’s smart marketing. Automata was the first real success in the Drakengard/Nier series, and most people who played it remember it very fondly and crave for more, but know how inaccessible the earlier titles can be. Square heard all this and greenlit a remake to capitalize off its success. Now if they half assed the remake, it would be scummy as hell. But it’s done so well while still keeping true to the original release that it’s doing exactly what Automata fans wanted, giving them more.
if it helps get this game more sales, then so be it
Hmmm I always felt like that was just new fans' way of tryin' to make sense of the connection between the two games. I mean, the timeline is confusing enough during Automata-- you toss in everythin' else and it's to be expected that newer players are gonna try to benchmark their entry series.
NieR: Gestalt was my first official playthrough of this series 10 years ago and I still refer to the games released before and after prequels and sequels when talkin' about it as a whole.
What? It always has been the prequel. Nier Automata clearly referenced the OG Nier (both, Relicant ans Gestalt, due to both of them being canon) multiple times - in terms of certain characters and also in terms of the overarching lore. Or do you mean people think Automata was first and now they have developed a prequel afterwards?
I mean yeah automata gave this series a name
His default name is definitely Nier, Emil says it in that one cutscene
Why does Louise transformation remained me of the mold from resident evil
Dang i dropped the game at playthrough C cause I thought it was gonna just be another few hours of doing the same exact stuff.
Go back for ending d and e look up help for them if needed it's so fucking great man
Also the dlc in your house. Best be lvl 33 for that. I promise you won't regret it from my experience. Then again I played the original and loved it so much. This is even better
@@cariburn1 already did the dlc
You could just reload the save at the castle and get D and then do E
Completely understandable, but I can assure you that the last endings are definitely worth it if you've grown to care for the characters. It's just a matter of actually doing the things again to get new things lol
This also parallels with the opera singer from automata
Does anyone know what song is playing during the outro, starting around 16:14? It sounds like Fleeting words (family) but maybe a higher pitch or key. Anyone have a clue?
The protagonist has been called Nier in official sources so it's not wrong to call him Nier
Ending C version is absolutely better. Not only is the gameplay section better with you being able to actually beat her sections instead of being No U'd, you actually play. Plus, the expansion on the Postmans character is way better in C.
I don't think she's exactly a shade that uses her powers to appear human. I think she was a slave on the ship that got attacked by the giant Gestalt, and similarly to Kainé, became possessed by it, and has to fight to maintain her human form.
Nier or, Replicant's protagonist's name in Reincarnation is World Ender, which is interesting.
the mermaid part is a new content? niceee no wonder why it felt different from the rest of the game parts
It gives me a little itch in my brain when people say Oddamada.
What if the Shades actually *are* speaking in "human voices" and the replicants (and therefore the player) just can't understand it, because *they* are the ones using a different language?
Is it just me or does her obsession with becoming human remind you of a certain monster living in a cage
Man, Yoko Taro really knows how to blow budget when hiring Aoi Yuuki *AGAIN* but this time having her voice behind a filter and battle noise.
Probably wrong, but the boss seems inspired somewhat by scylla and charybdis, maybe just Scylla.
So good
Quite ironical that a rampant human soul wants to become human... Just think, she IS the most human thing there (aside from Emile and Weiss)!
*(I wrote this literally seconds before you bring it up)*
Dammit I couldn't manage to unlock the other way during C
Idk , but Emils head looks like a moon 🌝, also those chickens I’ve seen em before , were the green elf saves the day , lol (whispered) sortah , I don’t think his an elf idk
The true irony is she was ursula all along
Dude it is a prequel lol. Beepy is the catalyst for the machines living with a conscious. The ending e practically proves it as well
this isn't a prequel, Automata is a sequel. something being a prequel implies it came out later.
0:12 Same
one extra thing that u didn't touch on, is her voice becomes more clearer with each playthrough, to where playthrough d you don't even have to read subtitles to understand
NieR the feel train.