@@meetoofreesh yeah. I typically only ride tracks but it’s gonna be a serious roll of the dice to get into svra spots like hollister hills or Carnegie. Need an amenable gatekeeper and an extra $50 lol
Another great review, their is definitely something in the mass centralization concept for sure, glad you pointed that out. Really looking forward to some woods riding comparos. Will be interesting to see how luggable the Yz is in the woods. Thanks again!
Thanks! I think the mass centralization combined with the low engine braking and free feeling engine make for a responsive to inputs 450F that kind of does not feel like a 450F. I did some back to back woods rides today with my 300XC and some trail rides on the YZ450F and will post some videos soon...stay tuned!
@@mxengineer1hey man, your videos are always fun to watch. Question. With the Yamaha tuner app, is there a good bit of adjustment you can make? I’m thinkin of going up to 450 and I think it would be great if I could dial it back and as I get more comfortable, slowly increase the power to it….
@@rkade3765 Yes making changes to the fuel and ignition settings can change the character of the engine. Realize it is still a YZ450 with a downdraft intake that revs like a 2-stroke! Here is my '350' map review - just retarded the ignition (could have richened the fuel to smooth it even more)....ua-cam.com/video/MsJrtPo70xg/v-deo.html
Absolutely awesome bike. Mine got delayed till June I’m hearing, not sure what’s going on. Side question, would you be willing to share you audio/video set up. So nice to capture that Audio so cleanly
Sorry to hear your YZ450 is delayed. I have waited a while for this one...from original delivery date of November 2022 to February 2023. It is worth the wait! I use a GoPro Black7 with the GoPro 3.5mm mic adaptor and a TNE gaming microphone all mounted on a Dango Designs chin bar mount. Works pretty well!
Hell yeah bro been waiting for this !!! And today before I opened up I was like .. I hope he has done a review random as I went in and sat on a kx450 I been thinking about getting a 22 kx450 all the reviews and UA-cam vids keep saying it’s easy good for taller bigger riders …. And boom you do one !! I Watched the swap moto vid yzf is the 2/3 favourite for the bigger taller guys they said. so here’s my question ! I know your tallish and I told ya ages ago how I was cramped as f on my 21 yzf450 !! seat bouncing everything on the pro track standing felt sh. So you got the ktm the kx yz what’s the comfiest for taller bigger dudes !? Im ready buy one and sucks I can’t get a ride on one before hand haha I’m thinking the new yz or kx 2022 model and pick one up cheap as $7200 aud -6k usd vs $13k aud yzf
Adam - thanks for watching and glad you enjoy the channel! I got to spin a few laps on a new '22 KX450 last weekend - have not posted the video yet. My buddy bought it for $6999 USD...such a deal! Plush and friendly and easy to ride and adapt to even after 1-lap. I can understand why it still wins shootouts. I was not a fan of the previous YZ250/450F layouts - too cramped for my 6'2" 190 lbs. The new '23 YZ450F feels great with good room from seat to pegs and seat to bars. The seat is tall though which is not good for shorter riders. Honda ergos always "just feel right" and still do. If I had to rank them maybe Honda #1, Yamaha #2, KTM #3, KX #4...all more than acceptable for me. Hard to pass up the deals on KX450's but they will not have the agility/fun factor of the '23 YZ450...but you gotta pay to play! Good luck with whatever new bike you pick..there are no wrong choices!
@@mxengineer1 damm that is interesting really making me think now hahah!! Thanks for the reply to mate appreciate it. Honestly I haven’t herd of the Honda being great for the taller riders this is the first time I’ve herd !? May have to look into this. All I really care about is being comfy power doesn’t mean much all 450s are great power and more then enough for wheelies and getting over any jump. So maybe this yamy is the go taller seat already hmm :/ and sounds like allot of fun if it’s light for whips etc. but your saying the crf is the winner for the taller peeps that’s really interesting is that the 23 model or 22 ? And yep the kx I can get great deal it’s not brand new though so …. Anything could be wrong if there selling it. the guy said it’s his practice bike got 30 hours on it I’d be saving $6000 so that’s a big win! so so many decisions right now it’s hard !!! How’s the kx ergos feel compared to Honda yz ? like what’s different or what makes Honda feel good for the taller dudes !? My bad for the questions but you the man to ask with no biased opinions ! Appreciated it always !
@@adamrochester1 I don't want to say (even though I did rank them) the CRF ergos are the best - just they seem to work for lots of riders. The new '23 YZ450F feels very good now too! The KX ergos are the most adjustable off the showroom floor - but the ones I've ridden have been stock and felt very good. Ergos are fairly easy to adjust on most bikes (except previous YZ450's which had the wide shrouds).
@@mxengineer1 hmmm I have my self a situation lol. The nimbleness does seem fun there hasn’t been a bad report about the yz yet either all positive specially the swap moto for bigger dudes. I’m a big blue fan and your saying it’s way better then other yz models and you even had a problem in the past to ! The crf is it the 23 WE dunno how easy it is to get that where I am …. your talking about or like 22 crfs as well ? I’ve almost had blue my hole life. Fun part of me says kx to try something new. And save some $$. Maybe I’ll try ask if any places have a 22 sitting there. Get a better deal. I had a Honda xr100 first bike always loved Hondas
@@adamrochester1 The new '23 YZ450F feels like no other previous YZ450F - totally different ergos and just the overall feel of the bike...it is quick handling and agile and ergos feel really good. The '21 CRF450R was all new and that is the current layout (WE or regular model). The '23 CRF450R/WE got some updates to frame rigidity, engine (cylinder head, 2mm smaller throttle body, exhaust header/muffler, engine mapping), new suspension settings. Much smoother power which helps calm the chassis (a little). Maybe time to go crazy and try a Kawasaki and Let the Good Times Roll;)
Picked up a 25 and man everything you said about the 23 is exactly what I feel about the 25. I would say it probably has to much power but with the Yamaha power tuner the potential is endless.
Congratulations on your new 25 YZ450F! What a beast of an engine!! I am curious about how the suspension and chassis updates work on the 25 model. Enjoy playing with the GYTR tuner - you can dial that engine up or down!
@@toddalan5603 Here is my 25 CRF450R comparison to a dialed 24 YZ450F....First video is the 24 YZ450F: ua-cam.com/video/M9jIlf8lLrE/v-deo.html Then I jumped on my 25 CRF450R and made some comparison comments: ua-cam.com/video/TF8i_Y7LoS4/v-deo.html
Great video!!! That bike looks like a great starting point for an offroad GNCC style racer, your first couple minutes with that off idle smooth response in the field, most 450 mx bikes will not be that smooth, especially when brand new! Looking forward to a future Offroad head to head review with a few of your other bikes!
I will get this bike into the woods soon. The off idle response and low engine RPM running was very smooth for a full on 450 moto bike. The GYTR phone app tuner should help dial in power character too.
@@Superdisco199 Yamaha YZ450F's are fast! I think the all new '23 YZ450F engine has similar peak power but is a little smoother and easier to ride...you will see in my off road videos I will post soon
Got mine 2 weeks ago Monster energy edition but I didn't get the KYB sticker on the fork tubes and no yellow marker on the lettering on the tires, I am just saying, you pay extra for the Monster edition and the dealer forgot it got to talk to them. Or did you add those yourself?
You will find a chassis/handling/agility/ergo difference if you jump on a '23 YZ450F compared to your 2019 model. The new engine may feel a bit smoother/softer at the initial turn of the throttle but with a 1.5 lbs lighter clutch (less rotating inertia) and a little over 5lb reduction in weight and 50mm thinner width around radiator shrouds the ergos will feel much different. You will also notice a quicker responding and reactive front end - less planted than your 19 YZ450F. Some riders may prefer the previous YZ450F character over the new bike. If you get a chance to ride the '23 YZ450F let us know your thoughts!
I am anxious to get them together soon for a back to back ride - hopefully the weather cooperates and I can do it outdoors otherwise might be an indoor ride.
I'd say if thats your track bike, you made a great choice. You look like you have a ton of confidence on that bike with the jumps and handling. Congrats on bike number 67.... 🤣
Chris - this is a 450 that does not feel like a 450...more like a very powerful 350. Very fun engine! That seat height is a little tall though my son did not mind it and said the YZ450F felt very good in the corners but he wants to ride it in some deep corner ruts...like Briarcliff in April!
Sounds very friendly down low. I think engine braking can make or break a 450. Back when there were 10,000 cam grinds for the CRF450's I used to experiment with it. The old gas gas 450's used to come with a sutter slipper clutch which removed all engine braking, so nice. I was testing out the latest YZ250FX the other day on some of our tracks, they rev so well. ua-cam.com/video/kjlJfkxtmD0/v-deo.html
Thanks for the feedback! This new '23 YZ450F engine is smoother with less on/off jerkiness compared to my previous '22 YZ250F. I will post some off road rides with the '23 YZ450F soon. Old school CRF250X carb still works well on the trails!
Wait a minute!!! Didn't you just buy a Honda WE? Like about 2 weeks ago? I cannot keep up! Great video as always! LOL WAIT!!! You just bought a Beta!!! WTF? WTF? WTF? hahahahaha You just bought THREE brand new bikes in a week?
@@mxengineer1 First, if you receive this reply multiple times, I apologize as I'm having issues sending it. So, my guess is you still have your trusty Kailub Russell, the 300xc, Honda WE, Beta and now the YZ 450F? Am I even close? LMAO Also, thanks for these informative vids, I've learned so much about my new 2023 SX-F 350 (with a whopping 3 hrs on it since Nov!)
@@brutus6328 I am fortunate to have friends with cool bikes and also I go through a lot of bikes. I still have the trusty '21 KR350 around as it is well dialed kind of my gold standard for 4-strokes. Perhaps the new '23 YZ450F will unseat it? My buddy has a very well sorted '23 350SXF - sometimes makes me want to get a '23 350XCF Factory Edition! Enjoy your '23 350SXF!
I keep saying it over and over again (I know you said you can rent the indoor track).....but, how the heck are you getting to ride all these beautiful outdoor tracks with no one else on them? I don't get it! LMAO
Ha! I do ride with a group of buddies and (3) of us have fast 20~26 year old sons so we get into a lot of fun discussions after riding each other's bikes!
Just got mine yesterday! Can’t wait to ride it..too cold and rainy in socal rn
Got mines 2 days ago are they still doing the red sticker for these ?
@@meetoofreesh nope. No registration anymore.
@@Skateoutlaw dam that’s sad so only track and private property
@@meetoofreesh yeah. I typically only ride tracks but it’s gonna be a serious roll of the dice to get into svra spots like hollister hills or Carnegie. Need an amenable gatekeeper and an extra $50 lol
Enjoy your new YZ450's!
Another great review, their is definitely something in the mass centralization concept for sure, glad you pointed that out. Really looking forward to some woods riding comparos. Will be interesting to see how luggable the Yz is in the woods. Thanks again!
Thanks! I think the mass centralization combined with the low engine braking and free feeling engine make for a responsive to inputs 450F that kind of does not feel like a 450F. I did some back to back woods rides today with my 300XC and some trail rides on the YZ450F and will post some videos soon...stay tuned!
@@mxengineer1hey man, your videos are always fun to watch. Question. With the Yamaha tuner app, is there a good bit of adjustment you can make? I’m thinkin of going up to 450 and I think it would be great if I could dial it back and as I get more comfortable, slowly increase the power to it….
@@rkade3765 Yes making changes to the fuel and ignition settings can change the character of the engine. Realize it is still a YZ450 with a downdraft intake that revs like a 2-stroke! Here is my '350' map review - just retarded the ignition (could have richened the fuel to smooth it even more)....ua-cam.com/video/MsJrtPo70xg/v-deo.html
Absolutely awesome bike. Mine got delayed till June I’m hearing, not sure what’s going on.
Side question, would you be willing to share you audio/video set up. So nice to capture that Audio so cleanly
Sorry to hear your YZ450 is delayed. I have waited a while for this one...from original delivery date of November 2022 to February 2023. It is worth the wait!
I use a GoPro Black7 with the GoPro 3.5mm mic adaptor and a TNE gaming microphone all mounted on a Dango Designs chin bar mount. Works pretty well!
Grears is probabñy the BEST place o actually feel a new bike. I cant EAIT to get my 23yz out there. Its my favorite track and dave is so so awesome!
The Grear MX is a very fun place to ride!
Cant wait until the 250fx gets those changes😎
Yes and the 450FX too!
i love your playground! i just picked up my 23yzf450 today.
Congratulations on your new YZ450F! Fun bike - let me know how it works for you!
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing impressions and engineering key points
Thanks!
Hell yeah bro been waiting for this !!! And today before I opened up I was like .. I hope he has done a review random as I went in and sat on a kx450 I been thinking about getting a 22 kx450 all the reviews and UA-cam vids keep saying it’s easy good for taller bigger riders …. And boom you do one !!
I Watched the swap moto vid yzf is the 2/3 favourite for the bigger taller guys they said. so here’s my question ! I know your tallish and I told ya ages ago how I was cramped as f on my 21 yzf450 !!
seat bouncing everything on the pro track standing felt sh.
So you got the ktm the kx yz what’s the comfiest for taller bigger dudes !? Im ready buy one and sucks I can’t get a ride on one before hand haha
I’m thinking the new yz or kx 2022 model and pick one up cheap as $7200 aud -6k usd vs $13k aud yzf
Adam - thanks for watching and glad you enjoy the channel! I got to spin a few laps on a new '22 KX450 last weekend - have not posted the video yet. My buddy bought it for $6999 USD...such a deal! Plush and friendly and easy to ride and adapt to even after 1-lap. I can understand why it still wins shootouts. I was not a fan of the previous YZ250/450F layouts - too cramped for my 6'2" 190 lbs. The new '23 YZ450F feels great with good room from seat to pegs and seat to bars. The seat is tall though which is not good for shorter riders. Honda ergos always "just feel right" and still do. If I had to rank them maybe Honda #1, Yamaha #2, KTM #3, KX #4...all more than acceptable for me. Hard to pass up the deals on KX450's but they will not have the agility/fun factor of the '23 YZ450...but you gotta pay to play! Good luck with whatever new bike you pick..there are no wrong choices!
@@mxengineer1 damm that is interesting really making me think now hahah!! Thanks for the reply to mate appreciate it. Honestly I haven’t herd of the Honda being great for the taller riders this is the first time I’ve herd !? May have to look into this. All I really care about is being comfy power doesn’t mean much all 450s are great power and more then enough for wheelies and getting over any jump. So maybe this yamy is the go taller seat already hmm :/ and sounds like allot of fun if it’s light for whips etc. but your saying the crf is the winner for the taller peeps that’s really interesting is that the 23 model or 22 ? And yep the kx I can get great deal it’s not brand new though so …. Anything could be wrong if there selling it. the guy said it’s his practice bike got 30 hours on it I’d be saving $6000 so that’s a big win! so so many decisions right now it’s hard !!! How’s the kx ergos feel compared to Honda yz ? like what’s different or what makes Honda feel good for the taller dudes !? My bad for the questions but you the man to ask with no biased opinions ! Appreciated it always !
@@adamrochester1 I don't want to say (even though I did rank them) the CRF ergos are the best - just they seem to work for lots of riders. The new '23 YZ450F feels very good now too! The KX ergos are the most adjustable off the showroom floor - but the ones I've ridden have been stock and felt very good. Ergos are fairly easy to adjust on most bikes (except previous YZ450's which had the wide shrouds).
@@mxengineer1 hmmm I have my self a situation lol. The nimbleness does seem fun there hasn’t been a bad report about the yz yet either all positive specially the swap moto for bigger dudes. I’m a big blue fan and your saying it’s way better then other yz models and you even had a problem in the past to !
The crf is it the 23 WE dunno how easy it is to get that where I am …. your talking about or like 22 crfs as well ?
I’ve almost had blue my hole life. Fun part of me says kx to try something new. And save some $$. Maybe I’ll try ask if any places have a 22 sitting there. Get a better deal. I had a Honda xr100 first bike always loved Hondas
@@adamrochester1 The new '23 YZ450F feels like no other previous YZ450F - totally different ergos and just the overall feel of the bike...it is quick handling and agile and ergos feel really good. The '21 CRF450R was all new and that is the current layout (WE or regular model). The '23 CRF450R/WE got some updates to frame rigidity, engine (cylinder head, 2mm smaller throttle body, exhaust header/muffler, engine mapping), new suspension settings. Much smoother power which helps calm the chassis (a little). Maybe time to go crazy and try a Kawasaki and Let the Good Times Roll;)
Hi..I s your bike ignition coil assy bracket like loose? I have brand new and have this issue.
I did not experience any ignition coil bracket issues - maybe someone else will comment if they had such an issue.
How many bikes do you own, wow wish I had your cash. Thanks for the videos especially on the two strokes.
I'm curious too! He just bought a brand new CRF WE!!! Dude is living the dream! haha
Picked up a 25 and man everything you said about the 23 is exactly what I feel about the 25. I would say it probably has to much power but with the Yamaha power tuner the potential is endless.
Congratulations on your new 25 YZ450F! What a beast of an engine!! I am curious about how the suspension and chassis updates work on the 25 model. Enjoy playing with the GYTR tuner - you can dial that engine up or down!
@@mxengineer1 love your content I’m curious how the new Honda compares to the 25 YZ.
@@toddalan5603 Here is my 25 CRF450R comparison to a dialed 24 YZ450F....First video is the 24 YZ450F: ua-cam.com/video/M9jIlf8lLrE/v-deo.html
Then I jumped on my 25 CRF450R and made some comparison comments: ua-cam.com/video/TF8i_Y7LoS4/v-deo.html
Great video!!! That bike looks like a great starting point for an offroad GNCC style racer, your first couple minutes with that off idle smooth response in the field, most 450 mx bikes will not be that smooth, especially when brand new! Looking forward to a future Offroad head to head review with a few of your other bikes!
I will get this bike into the woods soon. The off idle response and low engine RPM running was very smooth for a full on 450 moto bike. The GYTR phone app tuner should help dial in power character too.
It'll be interesting. Sounds like it just about yanked Kyle's arms out lol. ua-cam.com/video/iPNf4XTM9fA/v-deo.html
@@Superdisco199 Yamaha YZ450F's are fast! I think the all new '23 YZ450F engine has similar peak power but is a little smoother and easier to ride...you will see in my off road videos I will post soon
@@mxengineer1should have thrown it into your beta v ktm time trial :-D Test out the deceptively fast thing ?
@@Superdisco199 They will be some Beta 300RE back to backs soon!
Got mine 2 weeks ago Monster energy edition but I didn't get the KYB sticker on the fork tubes and no yellow marker on the lettering on the tires, I am just saying, you pay extra for the Monster edition and the dealer forgot it got to talk to them. Or did you add those yourself?
Congratulations on your new YZ450F Monster Edition! Fun bike and I added those stickers myself.
Great bike, great video! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I have a 450f 19 model. What do you think is the difference
You will find a chassis/handling/agility/ergo difference if you jump on a '23 YZ450F compared to your 2019 model. The new engine may feel a bit smoother/softer at the initial turn of the throttle but with a 1.5 lbs lighter clutch (less rotating inertia) and a little over 5lb reduction in weight and 50mm thinner width around radiator shrouds the ergos will feel much different. You will also notice a quicker responding and reactive front end - less planted than your 19 YZ450F. Some riders may prefer the previous YZ450F character over the new bike. If you get a chance to ride the '23 YZ450F let us know your thoughts!
@@mxengineer1 thanks man. Yes if I get a ride on one I'll let you know. I love Yamaha they're tier 1
I've never seen you so nice on a bike like this yamaha you look faster smoother and a safer than any bikes 250 or 350 also
Thanks Marcos! The '23 YZ450F has a playful feel that is confidence inspiring
How do you compare it to the CRF450RWE you just got?
I am anxious to get them together soon for a back to back ride - hopefully the weather cooperates and I can do it outdoors otherwise might be an indoor ride.
I'd say if thats your track bike, you made a great choice. You look like you have a ton of confidence on that bike with the jumps and handling. Congrats on bike number 67.... 🤣
Yes the '23 YZ450F feels very confidence inspiring on track!
Is that a smaller front rim?
No the standard 21" from rim...perhaps the picture or video distorts it a bit
Feel like a 350?
Chris - this is a 450 that does not feel like a 450...more like a very powerful 350. Very fun engine! That seat height is a little tall though my son did not mind it and said the YZ450F felt very good in the corners but he wants to ride it in some deep corner ruts...like Briarcliff in April!
Sounds very friendly down low. I think engine braking can make or break a 450. Back when there were 10,000 cam grinds for the CRF450's I used to experiment with it. The old gas gas 450's used to come with a sutter slipper clutch which removed all engine braking, so nice. I was testing out the latest YZ250FX the other day on some of our tracks, they rev so well. ua-cam.com/video/kjlJfkxtmD0/v-deo.html
Thanks for the feedback! This new '23 YZ450F engine is smoother with less on/off jerkiness compared to my previous '22 YZ250F. I will post some off road rides with the '23 YZ450F soon. Old school CRF250X carb still works well on the trails!
Wait a minute!!! Didn't you just buy a Honda WE? Like about 2 weeks ago? I cannot keep up! Great video as always! LOL WAIT!!! You just bought a Beta!!! WTF? WTF? WTF? hahahahaha You just bought THREE brand new bikes in a week?
I did sell a few bikes;)
@@mxengineer1 First, if you receive this reply multiple times, I apologize as I'm having issues sending it.
So, my guess is you still have your trusty Kailub Russell, the 300xc, Honda WE, Beta and now the YZ 450F? Am I even close? LMAO Also, thanks for these informative vids, I've learned so much about my new 2023 SX-F 350 (with a whopping 3 hrs on it since Nov!)
@@brutus6328 I am fortunate to have friends with cool bikes and also I go through a lot of bikes. I still have the trusty '21 KR350 around as it is well dialed kind of my gold standard for 4-strokes. Perhaps the new '23 YZ450F will unseat it? My buddy has a very well sorted '23 350SXF - sometimes makes me want to get a '23 350XCF Factory Edition! Enjoy your '23 350SXF!
I keep saying it over and over again (I know you said you can rent the indoor track).....but, how the heck are you getting to ride all these beautiful outdoor tracks with no one else on them? I don't get it! LMAO
Ha! My friends rent the track and invite me! I am very lucky to have such good friends!
@@mxengineer1 I noticed your only 2 and a half hours from where the train derailment happened? Any real life information on it?
@@shawntheo1603 Sorry no special details other than what has been reported in the news nationally.
I should go up there and test all these new bikes with ya. Ya know, a well spoken 50 year old vet guy 2nd impression.. 😉
Ha! I do ride with a group of buddies and (3) of us have fast 20~26 year old sons so we get into a lot of fun discussions after riding each other's bikes!