Dictionary meaning of acoustic: 1.relating to sound or the sense of hearing. "dogs have a much greater acoustic range than humans" 2.(of popular music or musical instruments) not having electrical amplification. "a sad, gentle acoustic ballad" noun 1.the properties or qualities of a room or building that determine how sound is transmitted in it. "the Symphony Hall has perfect acoustics" 2.the branch of physics concerned with the properties of sound.
Correct. But you do get why the term has been used, right? I mean if we’re going to get ultra specific on terminology then Specialized better remove the ‘Turbo’ part of their Turbo Levo/Kenevo ranges, along with all the other technically incorrect terms used in the MTB world. (That said, I do hate the use of acoustic in this way so I don’t really know why I’m arguing with you here! 😂)
@@iffy_too4289 The term acoustic, used in bike terms came from analogue / electric guitars... so I get what they are saying, but it’s still utterly unnecessary! You’re right, the bike industry loves coining a term, regardless of whether it makes sense or actually sounds right.
Sick bike but I still don't get how they justify charging 10k plus for these bikes when you can buy a brand new motorcycle for like 6k-8k. Love the sport but the Mtb industry/companies need to chill lol
You can also buy a brand new bike for $100. Bikes’ cost is dependent on how much it costs to make it. Of course they are marked up, but considering R&D costs and bike part availability, it makes more sense. I do agree that some brands (like Santa Cruz) do need to chill out, for example for $4k you’re getting NX Eagle and a Yari RC on an aluminum bike.
For a moto bike comparable to a 5k mtb build you're going to be paying 10-12k these 12k bikes are he equivalent of spending 7k on A kit suspension and sending the motor to PC or jgr and spending 10k on work
I would 100% buy one of these if I hadn’t just bought a new KTM… For less than this I might add. Joking aside, pricing is right on for what you get. Santa Cruz are up here and Specialized max out several $K above still!
Youre not wrong, but for the Sworks Specialzied you're getting XX1 AXS, Carbon Cranks, Carbon Wheels, and arguably the best motor w/700wh battery. Though, suspension and Geo were DEFINITELY lacking up until the Gen 3.... Crazy expensive but you can't add AXS XX1 and Carbon wheels to the 160E for the $2300 price difference....
As long as people are paying that kinda money, prices will keep increasing even more. Good job crazy people. Seriously, if you eMTB costs more than a good motorcycle, you have to start questioning weather youve been ripped off. But enjoy your expensive toy. If one things for sure, its that youve payed dearly for the privilege. :)
@@CptMooney Fortunately I don't have to worry how much something cost and I don't ride motobikes. I buy what I like and enjoy riding my Yeti! It's not just emtbs, its cars, golf clubs, electronics, houses ect... Price of everything is going up and in regard to luxury items, no one is forcing us to pay. Its a matter of personal preference how much we are will to spend. I like fancy cars, custom bikes and nice houses. Hate paying for parking though 😊
I have that bike & sc bullit cc both hi end bikes. -Yeti is too dam heavy 50lbs carbon frame bike. -battery drains faster than sc bullit. -came with shimano & a wireless sram seat post, why? Well got it changed to a fox drop post - it is fully 29er, mx is a better option. Santa cruz bullit is way lighter 5 around 5 pound less. -even is a mx set up is more efficent with battery range. - it came with sram x01.
Complaining about price is like watching a Porsche review “this is BS I could never afford this”. Go back to your shanties people, appreciate an incredible machine when you see it.
Definition of acoustic: 1 : of or relating to the sense or organs of hearing, to sound, or to the science of sounds acoustic apparatus of the ear acoustic energy : such as a : deadening or absorbing sound acoustic tile b : operated by or utilizing sound waves
Wow so many negative comments. I salute Yeti for moving away from the idiotic SI system, which was little more than a glorified Kashima coated dirt ledge. Completely unnecessarily complicated maintenance gone. Well done yeti, less marketing BS and more solid builds.
@@sonnduro i have had many many bikes, and for me SI is so much more maintenance and annoying than a few bearings. You will have bearings no matter what, all yetis already have them.
@@Mockle07 oh yeah, we use that too. more and more riders getting emtb to alternate with the regular one so planning rides and discussing which one to take is getting complicated... fortunately (or unfortunately?) i just refer to my normal bike as my bike xD
"no geometry adjustment to be found"... The bike has a flip-chip in the middle. It only adjusts the progressiveness the shock, but I would argue that it is "geometry changing" ...
What has the progression of your shock to do with the geometry of your bike? If you can’t come up with a valid explanation for this, you’ll recognize it’s not „geometry changing“.
@@rolux4853 It slightly alters the geometry of the bike towards the middle to end of the travel because the shock will be less/more compressed, but I doubt the average buyer would notice it.
Stop saying acoustic when referring to a bicycle. Stop touting this horrible suspension design as innovative. I can guarantee that the in house factory engineers developed this on behalf of "yeti" request and that they knew how ugly it was going to be.
@@devinwillis7787 I mean why the hell not, a lots of other brand are doing it. It's not like Yeti is a small bike company, if they can sell 10-12k trails/enduro/e-bike or whatever to a tiny dentist market, they can surely make it to DH. Remember around 2010 when they were shining into the DH world cup, Yeti 303 was a fckn must have, and they were constantly on podium! Even these days I'm thinking about making a 303 build ! Sorry I'm for my poor english, I'm french
I have a kidney for sale, LOL. You spend 12k, and after 5 years the battery needs to be replaced at a cost of 1k, and the bike will be worth 4k max. Think of that when you plan buying an ebike.
You can always sell the bike after 2 years of use, but don' t expect to sell it at more than 5k, maybe 6k max.... If you want to destroy capital, buy an ebike !!!
Although I’m intrigued by “E-Bikes”, I’ll never ride one. I guess I’m just a purist when it comes to riding…..bu5 it seems like the biking industry and it’s “reporters” are pushing them. Just yesterday, I saw a 9 year old on an e bike….that’s instant gratification at its best.
I hear you. I felt the same. Last Dec my bike was stolen and friend convinced me to get an ebike. Well, Ive never looked back and have no desire to ride a non ebime again. Im fitter than before and ride about 3 to 4 times the distance I used to weekly. They are awsome.
At this point, Mountainbiking is just becoming a joke. What are we doing here, wholesale movement from a physical activity to what, couch potatoes whose only "effort" is hitting the on button? Talk about E-Bikes for those with health problems or disabilities, I'm right there.....but young, fit, capable people? Yeah, sounds shit. Anyway, this is why I take Roadriding more seriously then mountain......"dude".
Why even care though? I don’t ride e-MTBs (and don’t plan to), but I don’t think it matters what you ride as long as you have fun. Why does it affect you that someone else is riding an e-bike?
@@krissv3ctor512 you're right, it doesn't directly affect me. The thing that worries me, is that the cycling industry is fully driven by the almighty $$, and if the trend for E-Bikes takes off the way it has, it won't be long before the bike industry goes ALL electric, meaning "acoustic bikes" are a thing of the past. When that happens, the support and components go with it. Don't believe me, try and get a replacement fork for 26" wheels. Another example is Rotwild, a German bike company, they used to make some great MTB, check their lineup today - 100% E-bikes. So, I'm not concerned about what others ride, just concerned the dollar hungry companies will decide to drop "normal bikes", and force people like me to either buy e-Bikes in the future or walk.
@@anthonyshillingford848 I agree with you there, I’m not a dentist so affording these bikes is hard already! I hope it become more like free coaster vs cassette wheels in bmx.
they want to sell ebikes to as many ppl as possible, makes more money. usually vital isnt a glorified press release with talking points forged by the press team, though this one feels like it.
My only complaint is the price. If I can avoid pedaling huge climbs .Why not ? I got into MTB for adrenaline not to be in the best shape of my life.I ain’t no XC rider .lol If you can afford an e-bike I recommend it 💯
@@Mockle07 Mainly the pricing. Obviously I haven't ridden this bike but looking at what you get for the price you are paying in terms of components and geo, it's quite terrible value. Also there is nothing revolutionary to justify the price other than it saying "Yeti" on the frame. Don't get me wrong, I think it looks nice and probably rides well too, but I honestly don't see a reason to buy this bike even if you have a lot of money, since you can get so much more if you go with another brand.
@@th_js I can’t argue with any of that really... but I guess that rules out Specialized, Pivot, Santa Crus etc as well. It’s not just ebikes though, I was browsing the other day and there is a Trek Slash (not Rail... a Slash!) listed at £10,500! WTF?!
Too bad e-bikes are not allowed on most NW "bike" trails. Probably because they are heavy brake damaging pigs. Surprised people don't consider all the places they cannot ride an e-bike before purchasing
Yeti 160e Review Contents
0:00 - Intro
1:23 - Sixfinity Suspension Explained
5:07 - 30% or 35% Adjustable Progression
6:18 - Shimano EP8 Drive system
8:31 - 160e Frame Details
10:42 - Geometry & Build Kits
11:59 - USA-made Yeti e-Handlebar
12:27 - How Does It Ride?
13:57 - Climbing Performance
15:06 - Parts Strengths
15:45 - Parts Weaknesses
16:17 - Bottom Line
I remember watching Yeti videos back when Jared Graves was killing it.
Cool story bro.
@@gweflj Hey, thanks! Hope you have the BEST day
Dictionary meaning of acoustic:
1.relating to sound or the sense of hearing.
"dogs have a much greater acoustic range than humans"
2.(of popular music or musical instruments) not having electrical amplification.
"a sad, gentle acoustic ballad"
noun
1.the properties or qualities of a room or building that determine how sound is transmitted in it.
"the Symphony Hall has perfect acoustics"
2.the branch of physics concerned with the properties of sound.
Correct. But you do get why the term has been used, right? I mean if we’re going to get ultra specific on terminology then Specialized better remove the ‘Turbo’ part of their Turbo Levo/Kenevo ranges, along with all the other technically incorrect terms used in the MTB world.
(That said, I do hate the use of acoustic in this way so I don’t really know why I’m arguing with you here! 😂)
@@iffy_too4289 The term acoustic, used in bike terms came from analogue / electric guitars... so I get what they are saying, but it’s still utterly unnecessary! You’re right, the bike industry loves coining a term, regardless of whether it makes sense or actually sounds right.
Why in the world would they not spec the T1 with AXS? I mean they even did the AXS dropper.
I do wish it was the Bosch motor and full AXS. All those thin DI cables are nuts.
Mopeds are getting crazy.
Picking up one of these suckers in a few weeks!! Greetings from Aus
Sick bike but I still don't get how they justify charging 10k plus for these bikes when you can buy a brand new motorcycle for like 6k-8k. Love the sport but the Mtb industry/companies need to chill lol
You can also buy a brand new bike for $100. Bikes’ cost is dependent on how much it costs to make it. Of course they are marked up, but considering R&D costs and bike part availability, it makes more sense. I do agree that some brands (like Santa Cruz) do need to chill out, for example for $4k you’re getting NX Eagle and a Yari RC on an aluminum bike.
Agreed, it's no different to tech companies charging $1200 for a smartphone, F that !
For a moto bike comparable to a 5k mtb build you're going to be paying 10-12k these 12k bikes are he equivalent of spending 7k on A kit suspension and sending the motor to PC or jgr and spending 10k on work
I would 100% buy one of these if I hadn’t just bought a new KTM… For less than this I might add.
Joking aside, pricing is right on for what you get. Santa Cruz are up here and Specialized max out several $K above still!
Youre not wrong, but for the Sworks Specialzied you're getting XX1 AXS, Carbon Cranks, Carbon Wheels, and arguably the best motor w/700wh battery. Though, suspension and Geo were DEFINITELY lacking up until the Gen 3....
Crazy expensive but you can't add AXS XX1 and Carbon wheels to the 160E for the $2300 price difference....
Great review. E-bikes are fun.
the price is a cheek,from year to year the bikes are getting more and more expensive soon we will get to the 15 k
yes its sad
@@TJ-po9ol It's the Kenevo which costs $15k.
The word "acoustic" is used when relating to sound or hearing, and should not be used to describe bikes lmao.
Exactly lol
Yeah well there is the peaceful sound of no motor.
love it
35 miles on boost ??? Yeah right...... maybe on flat ground lol
I’m barely getting 15 miles 😂
But,the cycle has no mud-guard on their wheel,which is necessary for Indian roads,or for any place fill of water.....
Dentists worldwide
"Heavy Breathing"
yeti predicts increased dental treatments in the foreseeable future amidst the pandemic...
To all of those complaining about the price. These bikes will be sold out for the next year. Ponder that craziness.
Just bought top model, have no shame and don't mind waiting 6 months.
As long as people are paying that kinda money, prices will keep increasing even more.
Good job crazy people. Seriously, if you eMTB costs more than a good motorcycle, you have to start questioning weather youve been ripped off.
But enjoy your expensive toy. If one things for sure, its that youve payed dearly for the privilege. :)
@@CptMooney Fortunately I don't have to worry how much something cost and I don't ride motobikes. I buy what I like and enjoy riding my Yeti! It's not just emtbs, its cars, golf clubs, electronics, houses ect... Price of everything is going up and in regard to luxury items, no one is forcing us to pay. Its a matter of personal preference how much we are will to spend. I like fancy cars, custom bikes and nice houses. Hate paying for parking though 😊
Sixfinity is something my 5 year old would say
I have that bike & sc bullit cc both hi end bikes.
-Yeti is too dam heavy 50lbs carbon frame bike.
-battery drains faster than sc bullit.
-came with shimano & a wireless sram seat post, why? Well got it changed to a fox drop post
- it is fully 29er, mx is a better option.
Santa cruz bullit is way lighter 5 around 5 pound less.
-even is a mx set up is more efficent with battery range.
- it came with sram x01.
I think that not pairing it up with 2.6 front and rear was a missed opportunity. eMTBs crave a little thiccness! :)
Size is important 😏
Complaining about price is like watching a Porsche review “this is BS I could never afford this”. Go back to your shanties people, appreciate an incredible machine when you see it.
Retro-style cable actuated shifter, on a contemporary e-bike?!? Weird component choices
Make the bike as silent as possible😅😅😅
Lets put a ep8 on the bike 😝
I like a badass shred sled like anyone but I think its F'N ridiculous a bike could cost this much! 🤷
So wtf is this? A mix of fsr and vpp?
Weight?
I'm pretty sure he said at one point is was close to 50lbs
@@buckroger6456 ok, tks
DUCATI or BIKE
Definition of acoustic:
1 : of or relating to the sense or organs of hearing, to sound, or to the science of sounds acoustic apparatus of the ear acoustic energy : such as
a : deadening or absorbing sound acoustic tile
b : operated by or utilizing sound waves
We all knew what he meant
can you please stop saying acoustic
Wow so many negative comments. I salute Yeti for moving away from the idiotic SI system, which was little more than a glorified Kashima coated dirt ledge. Completely unnecessarily complicated maintenance gone. Well done yeti, less marketing BS and more solid builds.
i think this looks more complicated to maintain
@@sonnduro why? It's just sealed bearings.
@@TeamCykelhold they only "moved away" from SI because they had too.
@@TeamCykelhold i have 2 yeti’s and the bearings the most annoying things to look after
@@sonnduro i have had many many bikes, and for me SI is so much more maintenance and annoying than a few bearings. You will have bearings no matter what, all yetis already have them.
I’m too tired to ride my ebike.
Acoustic bike. Yep - there's that nomenclature again! 😣 Normal, unassisted, proper. Use another term FFS.
What Steven said, get a grip FFS it's a bike!
my friends and i refer to the normal mtb as analog. acoustic is just plain wrong lol
are you really that mad because of a simple term? You gotta chill
@@raizen82 I don’t know what’s wrong with just “normal”? 🤷🏼♂️
@@Mockle07 oh yeah, we use that too. more and more riders getting emtb to alternate with the regular one so planning rides and discussing which one to take is getting complicated... fortunately (or unfortunately?) i just refer to my normal bike as my bike xD
"no geometry adjustment to be found"...
The bike has a flip-chip in the middle. It only adjusts the progressiveness the shock, but I would argue that it is "geometry changing" ...
But it doesn’t, it literally just alters the shock tune - the geometry remains unchanged.
What has the progression of your shock to do with the geometry of your bike?
If you can’t come up with a valid explanation for this, you’ll recognize it’s not „geometry changing“.
@@rolux4853 It slightly alters the geometry of the bike towards the middle to end of the travel because the shock will be less/more compressed, but I doubt the average buyer would notice it.
I still rather ride my good ol trusty hardtail. It'll make you a better rider at the end of the day.
Stop saying acoustic when referring to a bicycle. Stop touting this horrible suspension design as innovative. I can guarantee that the in house factory engineers developed this on behalf of "yeti" request and that they knew how ugly it was going to be.
I stopped watching after hearing the price
Motor knocking noise from $10k+ MTB. 🤦🏻♂️
I think I'm gonna die before Yeti releasing a DH bike, that's so sad :/
Why would they bring a dh bike out. The market for that is tiny
@@devinwillis7787 I mean why the hell not, a lots of other brand are doing it. It's not like Yeti is a small bike company, if they can sell 10-12k trails/enduro/e-bike or whatever to a tiny dentist market, they can surely make it to DH. Remember around 2010 when they were shining into the DH world cup, Yeti 303 was a fckn must have, and they were constantly on podium! Even these days I'm thinking about making a 303 build ! Sorry I'm for my poor english, I'm french
Just put 40s on a 165. I did and it was an insane bike.
I've quit mountain biking because off prices. MTB is the new golf.
You don’t need to spend 10k to have a good time
Good. See ya.
@@roddas26 are you overweight?
@@Lastmanontrackyou wish i was.
You are missing out my guy. Like another person said you don't need to drop a ton of cash to go out and have fun.
12k bikes wtf
The bike industry is a meme
What the fuck is the opposite of an acoustic Bike?
Now they can make a cheaper mtb using this Sixfinity instead of Switch Infinity.
Love it but damn it's to much money
I have a kidney for sale, LOL.
You spend 12k, and after 5 years the battery needs to be replaced at a cost of 1k, and the bike will be worth 4k max. Think of that when you plan buying an ebike.
You can always sell the bike after 2 years of use, but don' t expect to sell it at more than 5k, maybe 6k max.... If you want to destroy capital, buy an ebike !!!
Although I’m intrigued by “E-Bikes”, I’ll never ride one. I guess I’m just a purist when it comes to riding…..bu5 it seems like the biking industry and it’s “reporters” are pushing them. Just yesterday, I saw a 9 year old on an e bike….that’s instant gratification at its best.
I hear you. I felt the same. Last Dec my bike was stolen and friend convinced me to get an ebike. Well, Ive never looked back and have no desire to ride a non ebime again. Im fitter than before and ride about 3 to 4 times the distance I used to weekly. They are awsome.
“I’ll never ride one”, you better stick to this or you will own one for sure! They are absolutely brilliant to ride!
Nice advert
yeti doesn't spend a dime with vital mtb, FYI.
At this point, Mountainbiking is just becoming a joke. What are we doing here, wholesale movement from a physical activity to what, couch potatoes whose only "effort" is hitting the on button? Talk about E-Bikes for those with health problems or disabilities, I'm right there.....but young, fit, capable people? Yeah, sounds shit. Anyway, this is why I take Roadriding more seriously then mountain......"dude".
Why even care though? I don’t ride e-MTBs (and don’t plan to), but I don’t think it matters what you ride as long as you have fun. Why does it affect you that someone else is riding an e-bike?
@@krissv3ctor512 you're right, it doesn't directly affect me. The thing that worries me, is that the cycling industry is fully driven by the almighty $$, and if the trend for E-Bikes takes off the way it has, it won't be long before the bike industry goes ALL electric, meaning "acoustic bikes" are a thing of the past. When that happens, the support and components go with it. Don't believe me, try and get a replacement fork for 26" wheels. Another example is Rotwild, a German bike company, they used to make some great MTB, check their lineup today - 100% E-bikes. So, I'm not concerned about what others ride, just concerned the dollar hungry companies will decide to drop "normal bikes", and force people like me to either buy e-Bikes in the future or walk.
@@anthonyshillingford848 I agree with you there, I’m not a dentist so affording these bikes is hard already! I hope it become more like free coaster vs cassette wheels in bmx.
they want to sell ebikes to as many ppl as possible, makes more money. usually vital isnt a glorified press release with talking points forged by the press team, though this one feels like it.
@@anthonyshillingford848 sounds like your just upset your still rolling on 26ers lmao
Nice..only one issue, this unnecessary, engine thingy shit. Please promote real MTB's.
Agreec
ok boomer
My only complaint is the price. If I can avoid pedaling huge climbs .Why not ? I got into MTB for adrenaline not to be in the best shape of my life.I ain’t no XC rider .lol If you can afford an e-bike I recommend it 💯
.......said the horse drawn carriage to automobile
Why do the existence of ebikes upset normal MTB riders? Does someone else’s enjoyment affect you so negatively?
I have nothing against e-bikes, but I strongly dislike this one.
Any particular reason?
@@Mockle07 Mainly the pricing. Obviously I haven't ridden this bike but looking at what you get for the price you are paying in terms of components and geo, it's quite terrible value. Also there is nothing revolutionary to justify the price other than it saying "Yeti" on the frame.
Don't get me wrong, I think it looks nice and probably rides well too, but I honestly don't see a reason to buy this bike even if you have a lot of money, since you can get so much more if you go with another brand.
@@th_js I can’t argue with any of that really... but I guess that rules out Specialized, Pivot, Santa Crus etc as well. It’s not just ebikes though, I was browsing the other day and there is a Trek Slash (not Rail... a Slash!) listed at £10,500! WTF?!
Too bad e-bikes are not allowed on most NW "bike" trails. Probably because they are heavy brake damaging pigs. Surprised people don't consider all the places they cannot ride an e-bike before purchasing
Overpriced like most bikes....
No matter how rad you think it is, it’s still a boomer scooter.