Mouse DPI (CPI) as Fast As Possible
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2014
- What does it actually mean when a manufacturer says that their mouse has 8000 DPI? Is a high DPI really that important?
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2:56 Is that guy playing a UA-cam video?
lol
+Pan Z Old comment I know, but hot damn my man, spot on!
+Pan Z He's probably wondering why the hell he keeps losing
LMAO
OLOLOL
Most people didnt stay till the end... big mistake
thanks! i wasn't going to stay either.
ha ha
Hahahahaha. Wow so funny.
the end was so cringy
the best part of the video. Thank you Josh!
*puts mouse at max CPI*
mkay, let's play some CS:GO
*moves mouse half a mm and does 6 360's*
good for trick shot montage lololololololol XD
+Some Weeb That is about right for pro gaming ;D
+Carbon 12 pro gamers almost always use 400 cpi or 800 cpi
SpaceDorito I'm doubting this, Since i'm pretty sure they use 1080p monitors.
they use 1080p monitors but most of them on lower resolution and on 4:3 tho they use 400dpi and really big mousepads xD
What the fuck was that in the end though?
4:36 well that enough of internet for me
He lowkey looks attractive with that
Lian Lorenzo he’s gonna make me act up
naters pataters oh shit
Well someone fucked up real bad
2:57 look at the bottom of the monitor. Yup, that's a video scroll bar
that's some hardcore video watching
LOL!!!!
Oh God xDDDDDD
Quietbut_Deadly XD OMG!!!
Scrubbing/Progress bar*
Instructions unclear - Mouse set to 48,000 dpi. Can't find cursor. XD
Ha ha ha
There are no current-day sensors that go above 25,000. We are working on getting to 28,000.
@@gonorsilvet2581 its a joke headass
@@gonorsilvet2581 r/wooosh
Almost there in a few year
Incredibly funny as well as informative. Good luck Linus! 😂😀
you saw that tooooooooo
"I'm sure the boys in the yard enjoyed it" Oh yes we did. >:D
Should have have watched this before I bought a 8800 DPI mouse
That isn't anything amazing...
+Ethan The Ace I have the logitech g502 and it's 12,000
+Nicholas D Nice! Mine has a cap of 16400, but I only use 4000. :O
What mouse????
A Redragon Mammoth. I mostly got it bc of the design, but it turned out that the sensor wasn't too bad either.
playing FPS game on youtube 2:56
+jOkEr GamEr lol saw that aswell and was like wtf :D
+jOkEr GamEr
pause the video (or not) then press up+left or down+left or up+right or down+right arrows and you can play on youtube the oldest FPS
+jOkEr GamEr biggest scrub alive... no wait hes probably dead
How on UA-cam I can’t figure it out how
WHERE IS THE GIF OF THAT DANCE?! I NEED IT. WHERE.
+Luke Stevens Here you go: i.giphy.com/wqXJrYzNuxaP6.gif
+Tamás Kocsír my new TF2 spray
+Some Weeb how do you spray walls on tf2?, new to that game.
angel chingon set your spray, hit T
Some Weeb heh
Now that you explained DPI, could you explain Polling Rate on a mouse? I really can not understand it yet..
jtpetino What I understand about Polling Rate is like this... when your mouse detects movement, it sends a "count". But it doesn't go directly to the computer, instead it's put into a "buffer" on the mouse where the counts (and other actions, like clicking) are stored. They are stored here until the USB port checks the mouse, and reads all the data. How fast the USB port checks the data is the polling rate. And yes, it's the USB port checking the mouse, NOT the mouse sending data. Mouse drivers talk to the OS and ask it to poll more or less often.
lmgtfy.com/?q=Polling+Rate
...
The first link explains everything perfectly.
MustSeto Actually polling means the CPU continuously asks the mouse if it's got something to say... if the mouse were to send a signal whenever necessary that would be interrupt-driven. (for example PS/2 keyboards use interrupts, USB mice and keyboards use polling)
yogalD Exactly.
. < point a // point b >. 1000hz = 1000 times the mouse checks if its moving.
4:02 I thought that was gonna be some sort of insane new mouse
2:56 Pro youtube viewer lol (watching medal of honor warfighter I think? )
CyberWolf755 hahahaha .... his dreaming that he could play that game.
It is igi 2 I think
2:43 High resolutation display - RESOLUTATION >> Resolution* :)
69 likes lmao
no amount of money.... lol.
Oh dear God...
i agree
I... Don't understand how there are not more comments. XD
You say that now...
wat
Hey Linus, I'd like to see a guide on how to generally set up a mouse with CPI and sensitivity in general. I think this would be a great video to show newbies how to start, and maybe help pros rethink the way they set stuff up.
Just found this video, adding to favorites simply for the amazing Fractal spot. Thank you Josh for that wonderous moment.
Thanks for the explanation, I wasn't expecting your featured dance tho!!!
Unique as always.
Is there any as fast as possible for TN panel vs IPS panel?
I wonder if anyone will even read this.
We've already done this :)
Techquickie Thanks...found it...episode number 23.
Techquickie I've just noticed the guy at 2:55 is actually watching a UA-cam video instead of playing a game.
Also, high "resolutation" at 2:47
:P
Soumit Biswas IPS 4ms TN 1ms...
If my mouse has a ball instead of a censor how many dpis do it get?
gillo2011 ∞
It can vary, but generally 400.
Or at least the equivalent of 400.
***** have you ever seen how a ball mouse works? it is actually an optical infrared censor with an infrared led on the other side of a wheel with slots cut into it, each time it sees a bar (it gets a little darker) it counts a "click". they can compound it in a similar way to modern optical mice to get multiple counts per click, but your statement really has nothing to do with the dpi of a mouse, physical damage isn't going to change what the mouse is trying to do. like with any mouse it depends on the mouse what the dpi/cpi is, there are a few ball mice way back there that got as high as a hardware simulated 600dpi, at the time they were pretty competitive with early laser and photo optical mice. with ball mice though in general you are looking at physical cpi of 200 or less with a hard coded software layer that duplexes it.
*****
oh, an as for ball mice being analog..... they are no more so analog than optical mice, and by their very nature mice are analog.
Time to return my 16,000 dpi gaming mouse and go back to a 300 dpi ball mouse!
EDIT:
It worked very well.
4:35 Conclusion
Fractal Design's name confused me at first because I didn't think their cases looked like Fractals.
So why is it named Fractal Deisgns?
Luis Reventon Have no idea. But the cases aren't Fractal's
Rambi Ninethousand Luiza Possi Scandanavia = Cold = Snow = Snowflake
SrgntBallisticGaming Is that why they're called Fractal Design? Cool.
types of cooling
Simple.
Water cooling -> for when you want the best cooling with terrible noise production. (so only the really high end ones) although if you really spend a lot of money you can make em quieter again.. but not worth all the money
Air cooling -> everything else.
What are you supposed to say in "as fast as possible"?... Bigger rads offer more cooling but don't fit in all cases. Higher FPI also offers better cooling within the same space but is creates more noise. Tubing sizes don't really matter so get whatever size you like the look of and pressure optimized fans are usually better on radiators.
Did this already
Watercooling is purely for looks and noise reduction unless you know for a fact your CPU/GPU can handle higher clock speeds and temps are limiting them.
***** most AIO watercooling is louder though.
"I'm a grown man with kids"
I wish they would do a video on this showing the actual DPI (CPI) of several mice and going through and checking accuracy, I want to know the best way to compare mice.
Here is the gif: cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-27-2014/ybZ4g7.gif
You are welcome
Thanks
*save
We need to start making an archive for this, I still have this one:
puu.sh/ba4bu/01e014df1a.gif
linux my hand is big-boned and it gets sweaty on my mouse during long gaymen sessions. should i go for a mouse with ice white lights or ice blue lights for optimal hand cooling?
gg..
G fuckin G
Get this mouse. It has a fan on it www.ttesports.com/Mouse/32/BLACK_Element_CYCLONE/productPage.htm?a=a&g=ftr#.VCcq7VWSykU :p
Wait you do long sessions of gaymen?
SimonBraat i don't care if you're a fan of it, those red LEDs will burn through my palm faster than an overclocked nvidia card through slick's gelatinous mop
haha fractal design needs to sponsor more of these.
I'm glad this is the first video I've seen of yours lol
monicasm both his channels are great.
Same
400 dpi master race
Sure. Great... at 480 x 640 resolution. :P I'm a figure tip mouse user I like semi-high CPI.
u got it all wrong...1600cpi master race :)
eughh using 400 cpi is horrificly slow. I'm going back to 2500.
batt3ryac1d CPI really doesn't have to relate to on screen motion. Just dial it up in software (400CPI is a little to low for that tho :P)
I use a 1440 monitor... I think i'm at something like 2400 DPI usually (can't remember for sure). Personally tend to use around 1800 or so at 1080.
Thank you for making this video, Linus! There are so many misinformed people out there who think higher DPI/CPI means better accuracy.
Thank you Josh!!!
Greatly presented. Thank you.
Linus, What about the different mouse sensors and what they mean?
motosheep Do you mean different broad types (e.g. laser, optical, ball, PTE) or different models? (3090, 3310, 3366, 9800, etc)
MustSeto
like laser vs. optical
e.g. of Q Why one needs a flat pattern and the other works on any surface?
motosheep Most modern optical AND laser sensors will work on either surface now. In fact, it seems the laser sensors currently being manufactured are more affected by the surface--they have more acceleration on cloth. Modern opticals just get a slightly higher LOD on hard surfaces. IIRC modern opticals can even track on glass now, but don't quote me on that.
B/c my optical mouse don't work on wood.It wants patterned cloth, it is quite jumpy. When on binder paper it needs to have dots to track.
Gigabyte M6900 Gamer- just a shitty mouse?
motosheep I've never heard of a Gigabyte mouse. Not a good sign. It does also look like it's using an older sensor. The sensors I'm talking about are recent-ish.
Linus couldn't find the ≠ symbol in charmap?
I’ve been using 16k dpi for 3 years and I find 800dpi incredibly hard to use
16k ???? Horrible
what the- 16k?!?
That was a good presentation! Now at least I know what DPI or CPI means! Thanks!
at 2:46 you guys misspelled the word resolution. You wrote resolutation :DD
I think that was intentional...
Razer Mamba-16,000 dpi
"technically, CPI"
I'm so glad I watched this video. I was prepared from some sponsor segment but I didn't expect that Milkshake cover! LOL. Someone needs to bring that cover up and maybe start it as a YT short. Haha.
Thank you for explaining this
5 Years later..........
Razer:”Try our new Focus+ sensor it has 20,000 DPI!!!!”
Free Logitech Hero update-16000 to 25600 DPI! Oh marketing :-) (and I just bought one simply because I like Logitech G502 and using them for years)
@@VladK-1 g102 ROCKS MAN
In 2021 the New Basilisk v3 has 26k sensor.
My mouse goes up to 16400 DPI. However, I only really use 800 - 185 (sniping to rocket jumping.)
Jordan O'C mine goes up to 180000 dpi gg
Maggetboy
ok sure, haha what mouse xD
***** Yep, I like TF2 a lot. Although I recently bought Quake... it is a pretty fun game.
Please correct the number of zeroes..
Much Love @Techquickie
Stayed till the end. Worth it.
If I was in the industry, I would make a “Shroud” setting.
Do you know it?
The ENDING...
*HURT My Eyes LMAO* 😂😂😂
When I was hardcore into gaming, I had a profile on my mouse that allowed me to turn the DPI up and down by pushing one of the auxiliary buttons. It gave me an edge for sure.
thank you I needed that tonight
Make a video about the difference between Laser and Optical Sensors
I don't know about you guys but I find myself being more accurate with really low dpi settings. When the difference between moving ten degrees left and a full three hundred and sixty degrees is only a couple of millimetres on your mouse pad, I don't see how you can aim accurately.
***** CPI isn't the only thing which controls the overall sensitivity. The game's sensitivity value also affects it. In fact, theoretically a higher CPI with lower sensitivity setting is better. But because of the way CPIs tend to be artificially inflated, just setting a mouse to its highest CPI is still a bad idea. Besides, lowering that sensitivity value gives diminishing returns, and I'm confident we're at the point where we have high enough legitimate CPI that and additional benefit will be negligible.
I'm the same. I run at 3200 on desktop but drop down to 1k in shooters
bensemus x 3200? That's still really high :P I run at around 800 in games and on the desktop.
***** Ya in shootters I need to turn down my sensitivity
Well yeah, that's not surprising. Some gaming mice even come with DPI shifts. Holding those down will lower the DPI and will make sniping in FPS games more "steady" if you need a lower sensitivity.
Fractal Design ad was awesome!
thanks i did not know that because did not read the instructions and through away it.
Wow I bet you're going to the biggest tech youtuber in a few years..
Dat ending.... You're awesome Linus!
Great way to explain things, love it 😊
Thanks for the tips, quite helpful indeed.
The boys in the yard enjoyed it.
God bless you Josh from Fractal Design.
I have a mouse capable of giving 4 dpi speed at a flick of a switch. Usually the second setting is what I have it on (which is 1600 I think) because I like to move my mouse minimally, but when I need a very fast mouse with those minimal movement I can quickly put it on the fourth setting (3200 I think).
This is the beat geek..tech...channel ever...all about tech...I luv you...
"I enjoyed this" -boys in the yard, 2014
Just wait for milkshake gif profile pictures on the forums.
Subscribing to your channel, your videos are amazing, thank you very much keep doing a good job!!
You should use the highest native CPI of your mouse in any game that has a 3D camera. Shooters, action games, 3D platformers, what have you. More counts per inch means a smoother camera. In fact, having a very low DPI will make games like CS:GO, TF2, Quake etc. almost unplayable because your camera will skip entire rows and columns of pixels, making far away targets virtually unhittable.
Sucks that everyone always forgets this really important detail. High CPI, low in-game sens = Smoother camera. Low CPI, high in-game sens = Pixel-skipping, jumpy, stuttery camera.
i keep my wrist planted in one spot and just use my fingers to move the mouse. probably laziness. very accurate in shooters though.
That's just a different way of gripping the mouse. I do the same thing.
Same here, finger tip grip ftw
Depends on the shooter. If can do 180 with just your fingers/wrist in for example counter strike, then that's way too high.
Hey this is like super late but what DPI do you use? I also cant bring myself to move more than just my wrist and fingers cuz moving my arm too makes me innacurate
So this is why I dominate in cs go with a 2$ mouse I got 2 years ago
The mouse is 400 DPI and I use sensitivity on 4/5 and acceleration on 1/2 depending on what weapons I play. It moves fast enough 4 me and is accurate enough
Speaking in cs:go settings
Oh yeah and cod is really hard ? Give me a break cs:go has no competition right now on the competitive side of the game, there is no match for cs:go in any way right now, no game will take it's place in esports. If the game was skill-less it would not be an esports game.
Man, there are many ways cod is way fucking easier than cs go, and overwatch has taken the fast paced title now, and I say that as a tf2 player
Your point is invalid, cod has aim-assist, grenades do instant kills, recoil is smaller, recoil while walking has no difference of while standing still, knife always instant kills, no complicated movement and mastering of the map required, you get perks, the game is way more easier and unballanced, you can literally walk around instant killing everyone, not to mention there is a killstreak award, no knownledge of weapons required. All I mentioned is opposite from cs go, which is more competitive and skill headed, whilist cod is headed towards casual scrubs that cant aim properly. A true pro fps player that comes from cs:go/ other skill demanding games will always dominate in cod.
With my Razer DeathAdder Elite and a resolution of 2560x1600 it feels more accurate for me to use 2560 dpi and 1.5 sensitivity in Quake Champions, instead of 1280 dpi and using sensitivity 3 in quake champions. It felt to me more pixel accurate this way.
i usually dont go above 1600. the thing about having a mouse with adjustable dpi, is that you can find the perfect sensitivity for your needs, and with multiple dpi presets you can set different sensitivity for different types of games
2:46 osu?
yes xD
2:47 Resolutation? Lol
The funniest part of that sponsorship is that I feel more inclined to visit their website now than I ever would have upon watching some random ad read.
One thing he forgot to mention is that a higher dpi (dots per inch) can also be interpreted as pixels per inch. Which in case that most FPS pro gamers run most of their games on 1920x1080 16:9 for better performance and frames per second. Less pixels=less dots per inch. And frames per second is limited by how many hz your monitor can display, whether it be 60hz, 144hz, or 240hz, it will definitely make a higher improvement on your gaming than a mouse or a keyboard.
Defiantly went and checked out Fractal Designs after this video.
So is my Logitech G502 that I actually use on 12,000 dpi is less accurate then a lower setting? I thought this mouse had the most accurate senser on the market...
The G502 actually probably is the best mouse sensor ever, but yeah at 12k it's not going to be as good as it would be on a lower setting. But if you compare it to another mouse at the same setting, the G502 will win every time. Really wish they'd use the darn sensor in another mouse shell though, the G502 is so heavy >_
***** I don't understand that picture lol, are precision and accuracy not the same thing?
It may be accurate, but imagine running that sensor over a speck which it can't fully comprehend as a surface, your cursor will fly.
That's what Linus refers to, too much of one thing can lead to noise, too much detail wihout proper analysis (sensor), and much more room for reading errors, such as the example cited above.
how do u control that thing i keep mine at 1000
Mostafa morsy I simply got used to it over a few days of getting it. I kinda feel like if you bought a mouse with a really high DPI you might as well use it. I play on a 1080p monitor only too lol.
4:35 this is what made me get the concept in mind thank u linux
THANKS!
So......how much cpi do I need for playing at 1920x1080 resolution?
I would assume 400, right?
just turn up the sensitivity in your software/windows
+watsyurdeal you'll be better off with 1000 or 1600 cpi probably. but 800 is already ok for most games.
With 400 CPI, you would move the mouse an entire foot to move it across your screen.
Sock Puppet *facepalm*
we've got a dumbass...
+watsyurdeal It is completely dependent on how far you want to drag the mouse to move X degrees on screen in game, anywhere between 600 and 1200 is where most people will probably have their settings, while some people will prefer 200 and others will prefer 6000!
+blitzball420 NO! That is not the same as a mouse with actual DPI settings!
so dpi is sensitivety
Jeff LaFlare I saw you in a discord server
I guess
That's what it seems
Is something called ""the placebo effect".
My recent deathadder 2013 just broke, so I bought a mouse with all these adjustable dpi settings. I tried standard turning it up to 2400, and decreasing in game sensitivity and Windows, and experimenting with so. It's disgusting, it feels like there's loads of mouse acceleration, almost as if the mouse is on ice. But once I revert back to normal 800 and increase sensitivity in Windows/games, it feels perfect. I don't see what all the hype is around DPI, standard seems to work perfectly fine and it really IS more accurate.
Linus... you should have said over 9000!!!!! CPI...
It's over 9,000!!!!
lol 8,000 CPI... I just got a new mouse with 16,000 xD
mines 19000 XD can't be precise at 5k+ and 7+ is just a uncontrollable hell XD
@@FAILoZOFF LOL mine is 32000cpi.
This is actually an eye opener for me. I Used to play 5k dpi/cpi and a really low mouse sensitivity, then lowered it to 2000 dpi/cpi. I think that I might lower it to 400-600 dpi/cpi since I've watched this video.
Great info thanks
Josh from Fractal Designs is awesome!
so its more useful for design stuff like photoshop since it can move more acurately per pixel
thanks for sharing that, helped bring my perspective to a new light
Javier Gonzalez Jr also if you assign your left/right click to the keyboard the mouse control will be a lot smoother, i personally do this in Zbrush and Photoshop because clicking while dragging tends to be a lot shaky.
No. Did you watch the video? He said higher DPI is *NOT* more accurate. Think of DPI as a secondary sensitivity setting. Just don't put it too high or it might cause innacuracy/inconsistency.
You answered my question ... Thank you !!!
Resolutation. Well done, editing person.
that wig.....kinda......suits you.....
my dpi is over 9000!!!!!
+Hiraku Satoshi mines 12,000
Tfs here lmao
nice neat explination
Dud.... u r a tripp, well done, informational and funny
Pause at 4:30
that's my wallpaper now...
All praise the godess Linus
THEN WHAT IS THE DAMN POINT OF CPI OR DPI IF IT JUST INCREASES YOU SENSITIVITY??? WHAT IS THE MEASUREMENT FOR ACCURACY THEN???
Lennies. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
hand
there is no measurement of accuracy of mouse you noob. It depends upon the user
-.- how can i know how much accurate the mouse sensor is? do i need to move it a meter? a centimeter? a nanometer? how small movements can it detect?
Dami Bang yeah, like you can move a mouse in nanometer, pure noob.
So what is polling period or polling rate?
glad i've stayed in the end.. i don't do that often but man i feel proud