April 2024...Good for you...constantly learning !! In the past I was fortunate enough to own a 1920s Mehlin Grand with a Piano Disc system...loved it.!!!
I have on disklavier U1 till 12 years. It is as a new one with the 3,5 "disket and I love it. I have find a lot of midi files on the web and my piano plays them marvelously.
Best damn video I have ever found about installations of these modern players. You are right Russell, as a PTG member, I can tell you for certain the vast majority of the guild, including myself, DO NOT know anything about these player systems. I sincerely thank you for this presentation.
Great video! Thank you so much for the insight and behind the scenes tour. Since all technicians are not as knowledgeable and experienced as you and the Disklavier comes designed by engineers at Yamaha and assembled in the factory- I highly recommend it over after an after market installation. I have seen many unhappy customers with Piano Disc. The quality control and cutting edge technology of the Yamaha is beyond amazing!
Does anyone know where one can find pricing info on this? (or ANY midi grand piano retrofit system for that matter). Pricing seems to be found nowhere on the internet..
MIDI sequencing is definitely the way to go, if one wants to be able to edit performances note by note before recording them in the studio, since recording studio rates can be high and mistakes can be costly. There are so many options available these days to pianists that it's mind boggling. There is the option of using a real grand outfitted with MIDI controllers (e.g., the wonderful Fazioli), or the option of sequencing with the excellent Roland V-Piano Grand.
Excellent presentation. I'd like to know more about the different pianos that can be modified, e.g., uprights, etc., and what labor time is needed and cost ranges.
very nice shop and it is apparent that you are very knowledgeable about these systems in addition to pianos. Incidentally, its like getting a free gym membership working in a piano shop eh ;)
I am unclear which system is better. Can someone explain what the point is here? I am considering the purchase of a baby grand player piano but am clueless as to what to buy. I also don't have a lot of money to spend so a recommendation would be appreciated.
This is a technical explanation by a piano technician about the differences in the disklavier and piano disc systems. The biggest difference is that the Disklavier is built into the piano at the factory by Yamaha and it comes installed on a whole variety of their pianos new. It generally adds 10-12,000 to the cost of a concert grand piano. I'm not sure about the cost of retrofitting a steinway, but you'd first have to find a new or used steinway to install piandisc on. If you're on a budget, a yamaha upright disklavier might be just what you're looking for. Or a bargain on a used grand or baby grand. I have the C3 6' yamaha disklavier Mark IV and love it. I play some piano and work on it daily but with that system, I can hear world class pianists in my livingroom! That is the same for the Steinway with the piano disc. I can't recommend this system more highly. Without it, most homes will rarely hear their pianos played- except perhaps by the occasional student chunking away at the keys. Best of luck. I really hope you can afford one of these player pianos because they are just the greatest.
kbkesq I have a 1989 Disklavier Yamaha G2B with the Wagon grand, one thing Yamaha really did was take the p'ss abit with the upgrade ,you really can't upgrade it easily once it becomes obsolete (which mines is), they sell the new DKC-850 but it's not cheap, and Yamaha as far as I know don't supply the parts for it to the general public, replacement bits, they might but it's probably uneconomical so that you have to buy a new one, makes sense to Yamaha obviously but it doesn't make sense when you design a piano to last 70-80 years and can't upgrade the technology part of it (which should be the easiest to do), it's kinda stupid ,not many folk would want to buy a whole new piano just to upgrade the Disklavier, not that I can see anyway. Have a look at my other channel Sam Peoples where you'll see a quick walkaround of my wagon, I'll do a full demo of it soon.Cheers
I am fairly new to this so still learning. You are obviously very passionate about the level of workmanship put into the installs and I like your comment that 'it looks like it came out of the factory that way' . That's how it should look. Now can I throw you all a question... I own a Disklavier E3 and someone, somewhere, must know how you can make a modification to the control unit that will allow you to play the CD based software via a hard drive or something. Its a real pain in the bum having to keep changing the discs. Any ideas?
I like that you disclose you are comparing old Disklaviers to new PianoDisc but making direct comparisons between brand new technology and technology that is over a decade old is unfair, don't you think?
Not really since there are many older Disklaviers still on the market, many times I have a used Disklavier on my floor and customers want to know the difference especially since there are far more QRS and PianoDisc systems sold over Disklaviers. They can be added to virtually any piano decades after they leave the factory.
Thanks for the video. It looks like you do this install right. I've seen some pretty cruddy Piano Disc installs over the years Could you do a comparison between a current Disklavier VS PianoDisc? The Disklavier you used was well over ten years old.
Hi Yamaha Disklavier fans, here a new gadget for your Yamaha Disklavier FlexiDriveMV - Floppy Drive Update to SD card or USB PenDrive This is a direct replacement for the floppy drive unit. You remove the actual 3.5” floppy drive, connect the FlexiDrive and that’s all. You will not use floppy disks any more. You will use a standard SD or USB Stick. You can storage up 2500 floppies in a single SD card or USB Stick. Also for old Roland’s, Korg's, Yamaha's, Kawai’s or any keyboard or synthesizer!
April 2024...Good for you...constantly learning !! In the past I was fortunate
enough to own a 1920s Mehlin Grand with a Piano Disc system...loved it.!!!
I have on disklavier U1 till 12 years. It is as a new one with the 3,5 "disket and I love it. I have find a lot of midi files on the web and my piano plays them marvelously.
Thanks for this information. I've been shopping and am trying to decide between disklavier and QRS. Tough choices!
Best damn video I have ever found about installations of these modern players. You are right Russell, as a PTG member, I can tell you for certain the vast majority of the guild, including myself, DO NOT know anything about these player systems. I sincerely thank you for this presentation.
Great video! Thank you so much for the insight and behind the scenes tour. Since all technicians are not as knowledgeable and experienced as you and the Disklavier comes designed by engineers at Yamaha and assembled in the factory- I highly recommend it over after an after market installation. I have seen many unhappy customers with Piano Disc. The quality control and cutting edge technology of the Yamaha is beyond amazing!
Very interesting and informative video on player systems. Thank you.
great videos as usual. I gotta visit the shop one day if I fly down to S.Florida.
OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION.
I thought the Pianodisc midi record strip was "optical" based according to the website, but that looks like mechanical switches (the white fingers)
Does anyone know where one can find pricing info on this? (or ANY midi grand piano retrofit system for that matter). Pricing seems to be found nowhere on the internet..
The pianoDisc solenoids are much smaller than the Disklavier. Is this why the Yamaha system can get louder?
MIDI sequencing is definitely the way to go, if one wants to be able to edit performances note by note before recording them in the studio, since recording studio rates can be high and mistakes can be costly.
There are so many options available these days to pianists that it's mind boggling. There is the option of using a real grand outfitted with MIDI controllers (e.g., the wonderful Fazioli), or the option of sequencing with the excellent Roland V-Piano Grand.
Excellent presentation. I'd like to know more about the different pianos that can be modified, e.g., uprights, etc., and what labor time is needed and cost ranges.
very nice shop and it is apparent that you are very knowledgeable about these systems in addition to pianos. Incidentally, its like getting a free gym membership working in a piano shop eh ;)
I am unclear which system is better. Can someone explain what the point is here? I am considering the purchase of a baby grand player piano but am clueless as to what to buy. I also don't have a lot of money to spend so a recommendation would be appreciated.
This is a technical explanation by a piano technician about the differences in the disklavier and piano disc systems. The biggest difference is that the Disklavier is built into the piano at the factory by Yamaha and it comes installed on a whole variety of their pianos new. It generally adds 10-12,000 to the cost of a concert grand piano. I'm not sure about the cost of retrofitting a steinway, but you'd first have to find a new or used steinway to install piandisc on. If you're on a budget, a yamaha upright disklavier might be just what you're looking for. Or a bargain on a used grand or baby grand.
I have the C3 6' yamaha disklavier Mark IV and love it. I play some piano and work on it daily but with that system, I can hear world class pianists in my livingroom! That is the same for the Steinway with the piano disc. I can't recommend this system more highly. Without it, most homes will rarely hear their pianos played- except perhaps by the occasional student chunking away at the keys. Best of luck. I really hope you can afford one of these player pianos because they are just the greatest.
kbkesq I have a 1989 Disklavier Yamaha G2B with the Wagon grand, one thing Yamaha really did was take the p'ss abit with the upgrade ,you really can't upgrade it easily once it becomes obsolete (which mines is), they sell the new DKC-850 but it's not cheap, and Yamaha as far as I know don't supply the parts for it to the general public, replacement bits, they might but it's probably uneconomical so that you have to buy a new one, makes sense to Yamaha obviously but it doesn't make sense when you design a piano to last 70-80 years and can't upgrade the technology part of it (which should be the easiest to do), it's kinda stupid ,not many folk would want to buy a whole new piano just to upgrade the Disklavier, not that I can see anyway.
Have a look at my other channel Sam Peoples where you'll see a quick walkaround of my wagon, I'll do a full demo of it soon.Cheers
Could you please get me quote to add disklavier/piano disk for my Yamaha C3 year 2000 model. It has slot under the keys to install either system.
I am fairly new to this so still learning. You are obviously very passionate about the level of workmanship put into the installs and I like your comment that 'it looks like it came out of the factory that way' . That's how it should look. Now can I throw you all a question... I own a Disklavier E3 and someone, somewhere, must know how you can make a modification to the control unit that will allow you to play the CD based software via a hard drive or something. Its a real pain in the bum having to keep changing the discs. Any ideas?
Sorry about the late reply.
Sell the E3 and get a better piano and much better player. I have been installing player systems for 36 years.
Bisa saya beli disklavier nya SJ?
I like that you disclose you are comparing old Disklaviers to new PianoDisc but making direct comparisons between brand new technology and technology that is over a decade old is unfair, don't you think?
Not really since there are many older Disklaviers still on the market, many times I have a used Disklavier on my floor and customers want to know the difference especially since there are far more QRS and PianoDisc systems sold over Disklaviers. They can be added to virtually any piano decades after they leave the factory.
@@CunninghamPiano Not unfair to those that have one or the other and would like to know the difference.
Thanks for the video. It looks like you do this install right. I've seen some pretty cruddy Piano Disc installs over the years Could you do a comparison between a current Disklavier VS PianoDisc? The Disklavier you used was well over ten years old.
Hi Yamaha Disklavier fans, here a new gadget for your Yamaha Disklavier
FlexiDriveMV - Floppy Drive Update to SD card or USB PenDrive
This is a direct replacement for the floppy drive unit.
You remove the actual 3.5” floppy drive, connect the FlexiDrive and that’s all.
You will not use floppy disks any more.
You will use a standard SD or USB Stick. You can storage up 2500 floppies in a single SD card or USB Stick.
Also for old Roland’s, Korg's, Yamaha's, Kawai’s or any keyboard or synthesizer!
HI i have a upright Yamaha Sx101rbl , can i upgrade it to DKC-850
Bisa
How much do these cost?
a lot
Tec Guy
what is the cost of adding a player disc to an upright piano?
Jane Wenger they are expensive about 1.500 British pounds , which is why this video is “ gold dust “ to be frank .
awesome！
Для чего это нужно? Давно существуют магнитофоны))))))))
I will stay with my Korg Kronos X