I feel like most of the complaints for this arc are just very nitpicky or they just blatantly ignore the context of the story at the moment for all of the issues they have not being addressed. When I see people bring up the lack of consequences for Endeavor or Hawks I just question the readership. Who the fuck is going to hold them accountable for their crimes in societies' current state? You could argue Hawks' lack of apprehension towards Endeavor is a little weird but Hawks is inherently biased towards him but he is also capable of seeing the man he is now isnt the same as back then. I dont have an issue with the power progression at all it makes sense given the context of the story and still comes with adequate risk even fueling deku's self destructive tendencies even more in this arc which was the best part, even if the finish wasnt as good as it could've been. I've had to argue with way too many people that cant suspend their disbelief over the top two heroes not being indicted amidst societal collapse or how they clearly get plenty of pushback especially Endeavor for their sins, ala Dabi and failing to keep the public safe. We're literally shown society turning its back on its protectors so hard even the heroes we thought were legit like Death Arms hung up the suit.
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@@vg-_-universal8283 Horikoshi came up with that name...so...you can blame him for it. Vigilante Deku like Cremation is a fan name. If you've read the spinoff manga, calling Deku a vigilante makes zero sense as he has a provisional lisence.
My main problem with these kind of shounen animes is that they are too afraid to kill off characters and it feel unnatural for so many people to make it out considering the stakes. It reflects badly on the villains and makes them seem incompetent and barely threatening :/
What I dislike the most about the arc is that I never really understood WHY Deku had such a huge change in character. Like I get that a ton of people died, but no one in Shiggy's battle against the characters. If you want to turn Deku into a Batman like character, then kill off someone important to him like his mother or even a classmate and have him witness or even be partially responsible for it. If you don't want to make such huge sacrifices, then don't act like you did. Also, this arc was far too short. A character change this big, especially for the main character is something have affects that last for the rest of the story, now it's like it never even happened.
This is a good thought, but I don’t think a character needs to die to explain the change. Bakugo sacrificing himself to protect Deku was enough to explain the transition. Deku actually sees and knows that everyone would sacrifice for you, because you are the savior. This is a heavy burden to bear. To me, that was more than enough to explain the transition.
Well, there is a reason why Deku had an entire change of character. This was supposed to give a darker and scarier version of Deku. For about 10 years now since MHA released, a lot of the anime community are always complaining about Deku's crying. They always complain that he is a crybaby and that he cries too much. What I also find ironic is that when Deku eventually went out and changed into an entirely different person, people were now switching up and hyping up Deku acting like he is the best new gen MC of current anime. Also, yeah I do agree with the killing of person. But the problem is which character do we kill off because it has to be a person that Deku extremely cares about.
I mean is it really fair to both complain about this being too short, AND not warranted enough? Which would be better? Deku's Mom dying and the arc still being short? That wouldn't make sense. Or maybe the arc being ten chapters longer? What would we even get out of that?
@@leritykay8911 At least it would explain the drastic change... These are two pretty unrelated issues so I don't see why one has to exist without the other.
@@rato_o6841 Well I'm just saying, duration of a change also affects how drastic it is. Like if someone is very hungry and becomes agitated until he eats, that's not a drastic change. But if someone becomes agitated and angry for a few weeks straight, it IS. So the way I see it, it follows that if Deku didn't have a huge reason, then the change wasn't THAT drastic. He was putting on that mask for what, a week?
@@thefull9746 what do you mean, dekus tendency to hold the burden by himself was said by tsuyu and shoto, telling him they were strong enough for deku to help him shoulder said burden.
@@nikamoreillus661 that's not the type of thing that is supposed to be fixed just by another character saying "We can help you with it". The issue deserves more (it's litterally Deku's biggest flaw, the crux of his character)
@@thefull9746 ochaco's speech helps deku to understand that he can't hold this by himself and to not put his class in such a low regard acknowledging that it's not just him that's going to become the greatest hero but everyone in class 1a. Then allmight was supposed to die because he kept on pushing himself the limit eventually burning out ofa in the process and almost died and it's the same with deku, he pushed himself too much and got some z's midbattle fr.
@@nikamoreillus661you’re missing the entire point. Deku needs to solve Deku problems. In Naruto, Naruto needs to solve Naruto problems. In bleach, Inchgo needs to solve inchgo problems and in One Piece, Luffy needs solve luffy problems. Getting help is fine but Ochaco can’t solve Deku personal problems for him, Deku needed to say something for himself or recognize his own problems and he never really did. Also the problem doesn’t end in one conversation. Deku is a good hero because he pushes himself and actually cares about people, so the story applying that part of him is just a bad thing sorta goes against Deku entire character.
The Dark Hero Arc is honestly one of my favorites. Seeing Deku just fight and not overthink everything was awesome, and I'm happy they took a more dark tone compared to last seasons
Glad you likes it now, because it'll be like this never happened, he goes to the way he was before when Horikoshi actually puts him in the story instead of 101 new and side characters, and he never has and growth, thoughts or internal consequences to his month long, self destructive rampage
People call it dark but he just beat up people while looking dirty with a mask. Nothing “dark” happened. Even vigilante Deku isn’t right because he has a license and is right now publicly known as the strongest hero. Better name is lonely Deku arc.
The issue is that after Nagat fight we don't see him beating other bad guys AFO send after him before Tyrant comes in. It felt jarring how we got from Nagat dropping important plot point, only for Deku being rushed to get back with the class and then Stripes comes in to be the most bizarre in manga filler.
i liked it because for once hes the main character.. not 500 different side characters and their personal storys + battles that take up 40m of the episode but dont get me wrong i totally agree seeing their own personalities, the thing that blew my mind when i watched this was when momo lost her confidence and thinking back to the sports festival, its when the characters actually felt human to me, but not its just... either nothing, or dragged the hell out
Honestly he still isn’t even the main focus he never gets to talk about all he’s been through he was discriminated against for something he had no control over for year’s physically and mentally and no one ever talks about it not even him
This was my favorite arc. I also read the manga. My only problem with it is that is was too short... It could have easily been a whole season worth of material imo. Where maybe we even see less of deku and instead we just see him in the backround... IDK. Still an AMAZING arc.
I think that you meant that it was too short in which case I agree with you. Seeing him more in the background would've definitely been nice. Like they tease him being in background with the rumors circulating and all but that sort of loses it effectiveness when the audience is still following him as a protagonist.
@@ClavinZKL And your point? Just because it's a Shounen manga, it doesn't mean that the hero/protagonist cannot be "realistic" or break away even a little from the standard mold.
My biggest issue here is that For an Arc that is Named ‘Dark Deku’. Midoriya himself feels way too…Restrained. Like I’m not saying that he should Start brutalizing or killing people but I feel like he should be way more Spiteful and Even Pissed at the world throughout the Arc. Maybe like,Deku always Had these thoughts but The people Of UA(both whom he looked up to and Looked up to him) kept his Rage in check. But now that they aren’t here,He lets out those feelings in the most cathartic way he can. Beating up People. And more dangerously People that by some means Deserve it. Deku has always been a characters that has this very Raw and Almost Unabashed Rage(Like in his Fight with Shoto,or his fight with overhaul and more recently aginst Shigaraki and late AFO) And it has always felt like an Anger that isn’t just something of the moment,But its something that Feels that it comes from the depts of his soul. But no,Deku Has to be the Good Boi even when he Doesn’t have to be
This is honestly my favorite part of MHA for me still tbh. I agree with everything you said, but for what we did get I really enjoyed. The weekly reading experience for this arc was incredible and seeing what twists and turns it took was extremely fun to read. Seeing Deku post PLW trying to take on the weight of the world by himself still is so interesting, and I loved it even if it never really got concluded properly. Starting it off with a Deku vs Muscular rematch was an absolutely insane introduction to the final act, and I just wish we got to see more of that. Imagine if Hori started to explore the idea of mutant discrimination in this arc. Imagine if we actually got more interactions with all might and Deku, and a scene of Melissa giving all might the new full gauntlet prototypes. Am I disappointed? Yes. But did I enjoy what was good. Absolutely. Great video btw.
The MHA manga tends to reflect the different eras of American superhero comics, and the vigilante Deku arc is an almost perfect deconstruction of the 90s trend of edgy antiheroes. Deku's costume even begins to resemble characters like Venom and Spawn.
How is it a deconstruction when it doesn't say anything. As someone who has read a lot of comics the only thing that screamed anti hero was his costume getting jacked, nothing truly happened. I don't get how you can call it a deconstruction.
@Jamal Hartley "Deconstruction" may not be the best word, but it seemed the best fit for an arc that simultaneously pays homage to and critiques an era of comics generally defined by loner anti-heros, x-treme aethetics (animalistic poses, torn clothes, accessories, claws, etc.), distrust of authority, and general nihilism. The story has been building up the cracks in hero society for it's entire run, and it finally comes to a head with the formation of the PLF, the failure to stop Shiguraki, and Dabi's public address. Midorya is then seemingly set up to fall into the life of a solo vigilante after his encounter with Lady Nagant, where he'd eventually be forced to gradually lose his humanity and resort to more violent means. The intervention of class 1-A not only pulls Deku out of his downward spiral, but also refutes the very notion of nihilism and solo anti-heros. And they do this not through some saccharine speech about hope and friendship, but by drawing on their shared experiences, acknowledging the failures of the hero society, forcing Deku to see his actions are driven by fear, and demonstrating how much more affective they are working together. It may seem a bit rushed, but I felt it was efficient and effective.
@@PainCausingSamurai I get that since this the first arc where Deku actually acts like a super hero 😅 so I get why some like it. Although violent? Nah. The only thing edgy about Izuku was his costume. He saved a guy who tortured a little girl aka Overhaul during the Nagant fight. So I didn't see that downward spiral you talking about. Would've been cool if we got that though! Plus that edge in the 90s was so short lived because it can't last. No one wants to read that every issue so it's focused onto characters who can carry that like Daredevil, Batman, Punisher, and the like.
I would say it's more of a subversion of 90s edgy antiheroes. Midoriya has been adamant and diligent in fighting villains and saving lives. So diligent in fact, he has begun to neglect self care and has isolated himself from his friends, family, and eventually All Might. He seems to act more like Batman, always vigilant, always out prowling the streets. He looks like a monster, but his actions are quite heroic, leading to mixed rumors in the masses.
Ok, so I was not the only anime only watcher who thought that 'is that it?' for the Vigilante arc of Deku... manga readers were hyping it down to the last second after the war arc... so my expectations were there.. and granted the fight scenes were cool and some might even be some of the best in the anime, but it felt like the whole Vigilante arc was going upwards into a climax, but then you realized this is the climax and it suddenly ended... it's like a riding a rollercoaster and you're climbing up only to realize once you're at the top that's were the ride ends and you're actually not sliding down...
Well, the thing is I absolutely agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I personally love Vigilante Deku and he looks awesome. But the only problem I see with this arc is Deku VS Class 1a because it arrived way to early in the story. I wish Horikoshi actually gave more time to develop this arc so Deku can finally be developed into his own character. Seriously though, we got some cool action fight scenes and it felt good seeing Deku become an entirely different person than he was a couple of seasons ago. But the problem with this arc in general is the wasted potential of Deku as a character. At this point, Horikoshi just wants to be done with MHA and nothing more.
Yeah I was expecting so much from vigilante deku but when I got to it it just felt like a kid ran away from home to the nearest playground then got picked up by his parents 4 hours later then went to bed
Midnight’s death was so glossed over, it was insulting. Seeing people say this arc is “so dark” is laughable since no one noteworthy but Midnight died Bakagou serves no other purpose in the story and hasn’t for a while. He is a weakling compared to the top now and Deku. He could’ve served a better character dying sacrifice himself to Deku We shouldve seen these other heros with names, but side characters die in droves during the Decay Wave If you didnt wanna touch class 1-A fine but even someone from class B losing their lives wouldve had a great effect. Kendo, Pony, even Momura
@@thedestroyer5794 the most irrelevant death in all of mha. I probably would've been a little more sad if it was gran torino dying or even all might dying in the final war arc but nah bakugo wakes up from being dead and gets saved by edgeshot, gets a powerup and goes on to fight against prime afo
I really hate that MHA is being rushed to its end. There’s still so much to explore and expand on. But the anime industry wants its next factory cut&paste isekai cash grab so I guess this series is on the chopping block.
Well the thing is, shonen jump isn’t rushing the series to end, looking at the popularity chart, MHA still doing real good and always gets into the top 5. The one rushing it to end is actually Horikoshi himself as he’s kind of grown tired of making manga and wants to retire (which is understandable cuz being a mangaka sucks) and so is pretty much speedrunning to the end
Man I hate the anime community 😅 everything I enjoy everyone else seems to hate. I guess I’m just weird. This was one of my favourite arcs I ever watched in any anime…I don’t get it.
It's not really that they hate it. I also like the arc not gonna lie it's pretty good. What he's ranting about is how this arc kinda fails to build off the loss and action that happened in the previous arc. It's just mainly been about cool sequences and moments but doesn't focus on all the consequences. I do love Midoroya's growth and stuff but it feels like they forgetting alot of things that happened in previous arcs which we were expecting to be resolved in Villian hunt.
Sammmmee idk y but ppl alway like to focus on the negative side always they won’t look on the positive side just did u enjoyed it?? If u did enjoy it then I find that it’s successful regardless of the negative things in it, and I can see that you all really enjoy it, but all you do is just focusing on the negative points, just compare the positive points with the negative ones, and you will see that the positive points are much more than the negative ones. There is no perfect series from all sides always People just like to come and spoil the series with their useless comments. What does not make any work successful is because of people's different tastes, so please be grateful for the work without criticizing it because I am sure that every writer has his own style of writing and every writer cares about people's opinions And every writer wants his story to succeed, so please focus on the positive points more than the negative ones and be more grateful for the work.
You aren’t alone in this. It’s so strange to me how my top two favorite series (MHA and Bleach) also just happen to be two of the most hated and slandered series of all time. I know they aren’t perfect, but NO series is perfect.
@@scottvgamer1163 like some ppl just piss me off with their offensive comments about the work. There are some people who do not like anything and there is nothing that fills their eyes, no matter how good the work is.
UA-camr: Watches 6 seasons of anime, proceeds to talk about it in depth and shows that he truly cares about the material. Cares enough he wishes it was better. Comments: Wow, so negative, why don't you just talk about the positive stuff
Don't know about you, but for me I loved the "Vigilante Deku arc", definitively one of my favourite arcs in the entire series, i'm really surprised you preferer the "Joint training arc" more than the "Vigilante Deku arc", but hey! it's your opinion.
Personally I loved the start of the arc, but it just ended in a way that was so unsatisfying. I still like the arc, but man I really wanted some deep introspection from Deku and we just didn't get it :(
@@chromulus2225 I understand how u feel tbh and I hate how there is a lack of acknowledgement from the rest of the cast as students see their teachers DIE IN FRONT OF THEM
My problem with the arc was thanks to a misunderstanding of what was coming due to the fanbase. Everyone spoke do highly of the upcoming "vigilante" arc. So my expectations were for a Deku that was crueler, alone, and chased by the heroes. I wanted him to do things that he somewhat regretted and learn from his regrets. So I was definitely underwhelmed when he was basically no more than a sadboi who wouldn't let anyone love and support him
@@Lumberjack_kingit’s very misleading. It makes them think he’s leaving behind the flawed hero system that largely caused a lot of these problems and doing away with being an enforcer of the system and government and instead doing what he believes is morally right. But instead, he’s just being an antisocial workaholic who pushes everyone away to go solo
I like this arc. But it also frustrates me, it felt too shallow, and too short. He went from *alone* and *scared.* to suddenly okay when his class says it felt very whiplash like.
Still honestly this was what I was waiting for and imo it’s the best we’ve gotten the animation in the fights was top notch, me and my coworker loved every second of it considering after work every Saturday night we would sit and watch it and it was simply badass deku and we loved it
I honestly wish this arc was a hybrid of canon and filler, as a kong arc exploring Deku's descent into the darkness of loneliness to protect his loved ones thus bringing proper build up to Class 1-A saving him. Delve into the flaws of the life of a vigilante, what a man has to go through, what mindset he has to enter to face that path, show at times Deku can hesitate wondering if he made a mistake, but presses on stubbornly, maybe occassionally run into some classmates here and there who try to convince him to come home before the big fight.
Honestly I get all you're points, but this arc right here is downright my favorite because we finally get to see Deku experimented as a character and his vigilante form looks fire. It looks goated. Although I do have a few problems: 1. I would've liked it if there has been a chapter dedicated to where the students and teachers mourn the loss of Midnight. There, it would make us remember Midnight much more. 2. Deku isn't really a vigilante since he has a license. But whatever, if you want to call him "Vigilante Deku", then alright. Also I respect you're opinion and it's fine if you don't like My Hero Academia. I know it's not the best well written series. But you're MHA videos look awesome and I'll be sure to check them out myself. :)
he's not saying he doesn't like MHA, he quite literally giving a constructive take ( could we call this scrutiny???) on a arc. Simply put it, if you like it base on how you feel that's fine but going through from a narrative perspective will always take precedence. As much as i myself enjoy this arc, one thing ill not regard as good is the abrupt and erratic switches in time and lack of detail given to him improving his innate abilties and character. No inner conflict, growth in ideology or nuance to how he is developing ( side characters aside) as he is, just a radicalised altruistic hero who wants to remove everything to save everything.
I couldn't agree more on the Midnight take. Midnight was one of my top 5 favorite hero and, yes, a little bit because of how they sexualize her but it's because although she is sexualized a lot, she actually does her job of being a hero. She's a hero that likes showing off her body but when she needs to be a hero she acts like a hero. Midnight will definitely be remembered for me but I full on agree that she would be more remembered if they gave her a moment where everyone mourn over Midnight and even a few other hero's that lost their life.
honestly i found the villain hunt arc really enjoyable and am not saying that because it was only "raw" moments i found good writting in this arc PERSONALLY but even then this video does say some of my problems with this arc, the all might and deku meeting,class 1As reactions, hawks wings and bakugos apology to a extend i dont really think dekus character was "bastardized" or "ruined" per say but i 100% agree he SHOULD have more of a POV i PERSONALLY believe he has more stuff in act 3 ( i feel like me saying that rised some eyebrows) but at the same time his character devolpment feels "shackled"? i do believe his trauma is shown in his moment when he sees bakugos corpses (and the anime exclusive moment) but damn i miss the interactions between the kids but again thats just my opinion great video! you did a amazong job covering some of my problems with the arc!
You seem very defensive of your point of view, friend. Don't be! We already know it's your opinion, we already know you PERSONALLY think this by merit of the fact that you're posting it yourself in the first place. Cheers, be more confident!
@@rodrigoa.m3566 "You seem very defensive of your point of view, " yeah thats my fault 😅 i got insulted and got into arguement a few times because i said my opinion in these types of videos because i kinda have a more positive few on mha then most but you know what your right! i should be more confident in myself, i just get a little anxeious because how much people can be aggressive, of course i dont think peopel are ALL like this, just a few bad apples but again thank you! your comment made me smile
Ehhh, I keep seeing the comments just defend Deku and one or two comments say: "Finally, I agree", but I just think, personally, that the War Arc and the Vigilante arc is just bad/rushed writing. I'm not saying this to be mean or to discredit people's taste in anime shows. People can like what they like and I say this as someone who will finish MHA when the next season comes out. However, when I look back on both the war arc and the vigilante arc, I just see both arcs with bad writing. Sure, there are good points to the arcs, but, as an average anime goer that has invested time into MHA, I can point out the flaws that really bug me greatly in both arcs and I honestly believe that is just bad/rushed writing. I don't blame Horikoshi entirely, he could be on a rushed schedule, but I am allowed to look at something I enjoy watching and say: "This could have been done much better."
Eh. There were things that I agree with, like the main cast's reaction to hawks killing, their mourning of midnight, and having gran Torino die, but all the deku stuff... I have absolutely no idea where you got "deku destroys his body because he was discriminated against and he chalks up all of his problems on all might not being there". I don't know why people expected deku to bring up bakugo's bullying when deku's already moved past it, so I don't see what else they could've done (it was always something bakugo needed to get over). Might just be me, but I thought deku solving his self worth issues began with him accepting the name "deku" and ended when he chose it as his hero name. Personally, I don't see the problem with fa jin, danger sense, or smokescreen. The last two are basically just tools with one of them being something he can't turn on or off. Danger sense is practically spider sense in my eyes, so I don't really see the point of "mastering" it if it even can be. The reason that I don't have a problem with fa jin is because it shouldn't stop deku from using the real 100%. Fa jin is just a build up of a kinetic energy, so if the enemy can stop him from building up that energy, then he wouldn't be able to fake 100%. Overall, if I'm wrong in some places or all of it, then I have no problem with that. I'm glad that I at least bothered to watch the video all the way to the end. Maybe I'm just an mha shill and I don't acknowledge any of the problems that's currently plaguing the series because I'm honestly enjoying what I've watched and read without any or too many issues. Either way, this was a great video 👍.
The way I see it in the case of Deku's self-destructive personality stemming from his years of systematic verbal and physical abuse at Bakugo's hands is best illustrated is when he's on that rooftop being told by All Might that he can never be a hero, literally vindicating EVERYTHING that Bakugo had been telling him for the majority of his young life, and further vindicating Bakugo's words that if Deku wants to be a hero then he should just kill himself and hope in his next life he'll have a Quirk. Just imagine that every horrible, uncaring word that you've been told your entire life was just echoed by the hero you've loved and respected your entire life... what would you want to do next on that rooftop? Now imagine that after that, you FINALLY got the Quirk, the POWER you've been longing for your entire life to give all the hardships you've been through over the years meaning and purpose... well, you'd want to keep that feeling wouldn't you? You would never allow yourself to not live up to the expectations of those who gave you such power, to prove people like Bakugo wrong in saying you are worthless, who gave you the power to continue the fight against villainy and evil... even if that meant rending your flesh, breaking your bones, tearing your very body to bloody shreds... because if you did, then you would be back on that roof wouldn't you? Reminded that you are a worthless human being... That you should never have been given this power to begin with... That everything you endured to reach this point was meaningless... That ultimately the best thing you should've done at that moment was take the leap and hope that next time will be better than this one... That IS what Midoria's mindset has been throughout the entire series and the person who started all of this was Bakugo. Just because Deku got over his bullying and abuse doesn't mean he's over the trauma of it, of being forced back onto that rooftop facing down his inadequacies every single time he fails to meet everybody's expectations because he wasn't good enough to win and wonder if what's on the other side is the better deal. And so in order for Midoria to finally get over his self destructive attitude, he NEEDS to face its ultimate cause... and the apology wasn't that. What should've happened is that after Bakugo said he was sorry for what he did to Deku, Deku should've then dumped everything he felt back at Bakugo. The years of abuse, the agony of trying to befriend and stand by a boy that would never allow it, the soul grinding of being told day after day that he was, is, and will never be a human being in the eyes of the people around him. It is only when both Midoria and Bakugo are made to face the consequences of their actions can Bakugo truly say sorry for what he has done to Midoria and Deku can truly forgive him for it and begin to lay the pains and inadequacies of his past to rest... so that both can finally begin to walk the same path together than Deku had always wanted his entire life... Now take this little opinion of mine and compare it to the apology we got in the manga and anime... do you still think that that moment was earned and helped to repair their relationship?
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I still kinda think that version we got was earned, but I do like your take. At the same time though, I just don't think that deku is the type of character to dump everything that he's ever felt on to someone. This is a most likely wrong take from me since I just don't remember him doing something like that. That's all I have to say now, so have a nice day.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I agree with your comment but I think in my opinion that deku shouldn't have forgiven Bakugo yet because it was 10 years to late for that
@@QTRemnant Guess I can't argue too much there, I just think that just because a person doesn't like to unload on other people doesn't mean that keeping things bottled up is healthy, even for a fictional character going through the mother of all rough patches. Anyway, nice day to you too.
I loved this arc. The excitement of reading the manga when it was being released, the wonderful way it was animated despite the flaws…But yes, it was too short.
Feels like Asaratha missed his opportunity if he wanted to make content like this. Since the anime has changed the community's perception of this arc drastically.
@@Forit26it went on for a couple weeks at least dude shigaraki went from needing 4 months of training to get afo's full power and by the end of this arc it was 2 or 3 days
haven't read the manga but this entire season feels so rushed like every episode izuku learns a new one for all skill when up until this point they've drawn out his development. Everything feels so rushed and every character other than deku is sidelined, endeavors family drama is the only stuff I thought worked well at all. Fkn terrible
All of these complaints could easily be fixed if it was just longer, if it was longer it could have enough time for the kids to empathize their teachers deaths etc.
MHA fans jus ignore writing flaws and inconsistency in motive and literally how Deku hasnt earned shit to be so “powerful” cuz they enjoy how colorful it is or some bullshit
@@geigercourtier And you’re fair to have that opinion, I thought it was fun, it had flaws don’t get me wrong but I wasn’t really invested anyways so the problems didn’t matter to me since I just kinda watched it to watch something.
istg, when you look back at season 5 and see you could totaly skip half of it after Overhaul gets defeat WITHOUT LOSING ANY INFORMATION really shows how sidetracked the story was, 15 episodes for a fucking festival and the backstories of 2 irrelevant characters, good god, Chainsaw Man is 12 episodes and look at how much goes there in so little time
What sucks the most about this is that the majority of these issues could be fixed by at least ONE scene. Characterizing Class 1-A? Show their response to Midnight's death, if you wanna get crafty maybe throw Aizawa and Present Mic in there too considering they were close with her. Potentially focusing on Kaminari and FINALLY giving him a little character beyond being a bit stupid. Really, I think this arc would've been better had there just been more time into it. I personally enjoyed the arc, but there are definitely ways that it could be better
Can totally see where you're coming from. I love this arc, but I can have problems with it. I know I really wished we got to see Deku unlock smokescreen, Fa Jin, and then train with them in some way rather then just having a good enough hand on them. I also think it's too short, and would've loved to see Deku vs Class 1-a have 2 battles. The first being where Deku gets away from them, and the second being the first, heck, maybe Endeavor and the others try and stop him after round 1.
I like it to because for me now that I think about it deku never really faced any real psychological conflict true becoming the new all might was something he had to go through but I don’t really count that and I feel the Dark Hero Arc was Deku’s true Physiological conflict because he’s at the lowest of the low he abandons everyone even all might and in a way abandons the identity of Izuku Midoriya becoming a shell of the person he once was and even though it is for a good reason to see them all happy. So in also another way the Dark Hero Arc was Deku’s Daredevil season 3
The fact that most people enjoyed the season and are excited about the upcoming season says it all. The biggest haters of MHA are the manga readers who cannot digest the fact that this is a different medium with different strengths and weaknesses than manga. While the art style is almost impossible to match/improve, the music, voice acting and animation(in Deku vigilante arc) elevate the experience.
What are you talking about?! We manga readers are complaining about the basic storytelling technique of build up=pay of and character consistency not the music, voice acting and animation (which are great) If you don't care about good stories it's ok, but don't misunderstand us
@@kubomagico8853 I am talking about this season and not the latest war arc. Most people liked these arcs but some people were complaining about manga being better. The story becomes rushed and inconsistent in upcoming arcs partially due to author' s health and fandom.
@@naganut9718 If you read my comment again I am talking about Season 6 and not latest Manga chapters. I have no problem with people not liking the latest chapter but blindly hating it.
Think the problem is that we're supposed to feel bad for Midoriya cause the plot told us to. WE didn't really see this dude soloing it for months with no rest against multiple villains, we see him fight 2 or 3 villains and now its a month and he is tired and depressed. So the struggle we see feels kinda empty as we are only really seeing the results of that struggle
Ngl I wish the anime changed the art up more. Look at bleach TYBW, they got a new artstyle, red sky, made scenes more gray, black and white at times even all for the tone. And this which is meant to be the dark arc? Bright blue sky
Mate, this is the anime where the training was “how about instead of focusing all power on one limb you...concentrate less AND spread it out?” and this BRILLIANT and NOT OBVIOUS realisation because the MC kept on BREAKING arms from punches. Also: we literally have rewind healing atm in the story. No injuries matter. Aizawa couldn't even hold a flashback to her before cutting his own leg off. We aren't even allowed to maybe be surprised for forgetting the ultra healing for a second.
Lmfao, he didn't have a flashback of Eri because of her "healing" he remembered Eri because if he died in the war, he would make Eri fall into depression like his friend did after he saved him and sacrificed himself. Lmfao, there's no way some people think Aizawa had that flashback because of Eri's healing ability from her quirk 😂🙏
I personally do not agree but I understand the criticism but I liked this arc and I think it did a good job at developing the mha world and showing us how Japan is affected
I don't really care about watching this video, just wanted to comment since it popped up in my recommandations, I haven't been as hooked as I was during the Vigilante arc for a long, LONG while, and it felt really good, every single episode hit me very hard and I felt like every characters relevant to this arc finally went to the direction I wanted to. The Deku VS 2-A battle is probably one of my favourite episode of the whole show, and I cried so much during the Ochako speach haha I'm especially glad because as someone who's more into the school focused arc (my favourite arcs being the tournament and the festival, while I have a hard time caring for some arcs like the Endeavor arc) I was a bit afraid going in that they would just forget that this show is called "My Hero Academia". It turned out becomming one of my favourite arc :) I kinda wish UA-cam would stop recommanding me videos titled stuff like "why this is bad" everytime I watch or play something that I really like. It's really tiresome and frankly depressing at some point.
Do you see the 3 little white dots in the right corner of every video? If you click that its gonna show you a list of options and one of those options says "not interested" and when you click that, then yt will probably get the hint and stop recommending videos like that to you. Better yet! Click "do not recommend channel" and that'll do way more damage! I dont know why people have such a hard time with this. Literally its probably the best option for everyone. I'm not complaining tho- its just more sweet views for my boy Asa!
It's not completely MHA's fault. MHA has over 400 chapters and the story has been dragged out for way too long. Honestly, MHA used to be peak but the series began to fall off when the war arc premiered. It honestly fell off when Stars And Stripes VS Shigaraki occured.
Interesting. I honestly loved it, there are faults but I was so hyped up by the end and loved how they handled things and can't wait to see what happens next. For me every episode made me excited for the next :P
I honestly need more people with your hype. Would love to discuss some MHA/anime related stuff. And yeah, I loved this arc. Of course, a point I'd get would be the execution failing in some aspects, because honestly the idea (Deku leaving and his dark arc) was good and made sense. Better stop here before I make a whole essay but yeah, I agree. ☘︎
@@clovercalloway Generally feel like you can nit pick anything (youtube kinda seems to push negativity and nit picking which is such a shame), we never really talk about how awesome things are and MHA is so awesome! :D I have Discord, Idk if you can private message me on youtube but I love hearing people's opinions and gush about stuff we like :)
Listen buddy, as an MHA fan, ignore all the hate comments in this comment. I saw you're other replies to the other comments saying you defend MHA. Well listen, I don't mind if you criticize the Vigilante Deku Arc because I'm actually willing to accept any criticism about the show. Of course, there are people who can't take criticism. But I'm not one of them. I enjoyed this arc but my only problem with it that I wished they extended this arc a little bit further because I would've wanted to see Deku demolish Class 1a. But anyways, you're videos are awesome!!
while this season had its issues(i agree with most of ur points) i still think its easily the best. story issues aside it had alot of great moments. one of my favorite moments being ochacos speech(literally brought a tear to my eye) also about the whole dekus body being fine point the idea is that it was only harming his body becasue his body wasn't used to the OFA keep in mind all might was quirkless too so using logic his body had to have suffered when he overused it too right? only reason i can think of to be the case is that his body got used to ofa and ofa became his quirk rather then a borrowed power(thats what i concluded). the problem is how it was executed. other then that and some of what you alrealdy spoke about this season was pretty good. also with ochacco being tired she just gave a big ass speech so making her tired seems reasonable
im sorry but i don't think that you could possible agree with and acknoledge all of his points and still think this arc is the best, without thinking the rest of the series is total dogshit
@@themcdonut9602 agree might have been the wrong word more like understand? I agree with most though. this arc simply kept me interested the most and I finished it not satisfied but content. i enjoyed it. even if.it has all these flaws I still enjoyed this season alot maybe it was because these aren't a big deal to me or maybe I just didn't notice them but I enjoyed this season more then all the others. plus as a anime only(now manga I started reading it) I have been excited for villginte deku for years. season 2 was the best and my favorite before this. however after finishing this season I came out happy with what i watched. sure the season may not be perfect but I enjoyed it so for me it's the best. you can agree with others and still have ur own opinion
And you've hit my point in the head. Mha is officially riding on big, flashy, emotional MOMENTS because we love the story and characters build pre s4. Everything in between is empty, flat, and noncohesive
Unlike most people In these comments I agree. It's tiring for me, seeing so many previous plot points and character threads rushed or suddenly not cared about. It very much has me lose interest, and doesn't truly make the world feel real. It's sloppy and inconsistent for me. Still a fine arc I suppose, but basically everything you said is something I felt before this video even came out. This arc continued my falling off of mha. Yes, I'm caught up with the manga, no that stuff hasn't changed too much how I feel.
Wrong about the stakes part I feel like because all might had a stomach injury and he didn't die and deku's durability and his acclimation to one for all just went up at least that's how I see it I mean plenty of stories have lessened their stakes so bad to specific dragon ball but it never harmed their stakes long term and there is a lot more amalgamation of problems with dbz but still ppl love it
All your points are very good and make sense. I do resonate with the same ideas that Midoriya has let himself become a tool and lost a sense of introspection. The power progression is also wild, although it’s something that I kind of saw coming and don’t really mind too much. Definitely the most egregious issue for me was how the characters kind of felt disconnected from their environment to a degree after the war.
For me, the most heartbreaking part of this arc was that fact that Class 1a came right after Deku. Like the arc was so short, we only got to see a little bit of Dark Deku. Like seriously, the arc should have been longer, and this should have been used to develop Deku as a character. The last time Deku had development was like when? I think it was somewhere 3 seasons ago.
I agree with most of your points. This arc felt weak and I couldn’t explain why other than it felt super rushed and not fleshed out. Thanks for breaking it down!
7:08 So glad you pointed this out! I was waiting for at least 1 scene where Hawks would have an internal struggle about the information. Because on the one hand, he's looked up to Endeavor since childhood because he arrested Hawk's abusive father. But on the other hand, he just learned that his hero had abused his own sons. How do you deal with that? I know they're both professionals, #1 and #2 in Japan after all, but working together now has to be a tense situation...
Damn. People still trying push mha down. This arc gave us a cool deku. And it was really just meant to be the precursor to the second war that's coming up
The aftermath of the Dabi reveal felt flat to me when i watched it for the first time, and at first i though it was because i already knew about Dabi thanks to spoilers but the real reason why i didnt really care is that no one in the show really cared. I love Endeavor, it's easily my favourite part of MHA and one of the main reasons i haven't dropped the series yet, mabye it's me watching MHA in my 30s but watching the actual redemption arc of an adult that made all the wrong choices guided only by it's drive to be the best (wich is often the exclusively positive drive of MCs) really hits home, and his whole character arc is so dense. But then he's exposed nation wide, people in theyr home make some snarky comments during the war, and... nothing, everyone is cool with him now. The war was good but in order to work it had to botch many characters and plot points, from Hawks (wich i also really liked but i though could've used a bit more time in the spotlight before and after the Twice incident) to the whole 1A class to goddamn Milio showing up outta nowhere in a way that made me seriously check multiple times if i skipped an episode or two...
This arc was amazing and its funny that people already are jumping the gun to downplay it. Figures how MHA hate will never cease. This arc was not about those features, this arc was about creating more depth into midoryas character. Sure there was some missed elements that cannot ALL be covered. This isnt one piece, we dont have time to display all of the occurences. Stop downplaying an amazingly written arc by ignoring WHAT THIS ARC IS ABOUT
please name me two things that had further his past developments in that arc ( i love this arc but cmon). I'm not some pedantic or highly critical on every series i watch but surely you didn't feel that more was needed for this. abrupt and erratic timing with no development other than his ideal to safe everybody by just leaving them to not get hurt.
@@famousfox6318 This arc is to show that dekus main ideal, the very reason he was given One For All, was also his greatest weakness. This arc was also to show that he is still a human teen and how the responsibility of this power which he accepted with such earnest due to his "hero disorder" is not something that ONLY HE has to shoulder and how damaging on his body that responsibility is to shoulder. This arc also was to flesh out the parallels between the antagonists and also show the aftereffect of the previous arc.
It’s not ignoring what the arc is about, it’s more how it’s executed. Deku pretty much has everyone else talk no jutsu him and accomplish his OWN problems without his own introspective of it. He didn’t have any reflection on the consequences of going rogue or any reflection on his friendship with Bakugou and everyone else in the class. Everyone else talks about his own problems and acknowledge it except himself. How are you supposed to properly change if YOU YOURSELF don’t recognize your negative mindset? After PLW the series is getting rushed, and it’s shown by stuff like SnS and the video points this out. If the arc was dedicated to adding more depth to Deku character, it executed in a very poorly matter. This video isn’t even hating on MHA, it’s just not being biased to the series and genuinely pointing at flaws in the writing after PLW.
I think the author should’ve taken an avatar approach, and have Deku unlock a master each of the six powers over the course of the seasons: Season 1. One for all/full cowling 2. Danger sense 3. Smoke screen 4. Float 5. Black whip 6. Fa Jin 7. Gearshift
Honestly I don’t agree, though it was short it was waaaaay more interesting than the others Arcs and we start to see the true atmosphere of what is going on in MHA. Not only that but Dekus Classmates are growing with him now so it’s not just him trying to keep his All Might given power a secret anymore. I respectfully believe that this review undermines a lot of aspects in the Arc.
Alright, then elaborate. What makes this trashy arc so good? That whole point of "his classmates are growing now" is stupid, since all they do in the damn arc is reassure that deku is good, that he doesn't have to be all alone. The damn arc does a bad job with class 1A, since we never actually get an original thought from them, all we get from them is their damn support for deku. We never get any interesting pov moments from the class a characters. They've all got their own shit going on, so focus on that. But nope, it's all izuku this, izuku that, it's annoying. And for the "true atmosphere of mha" wdym by that? Is it supposed to be some take on the society as a whole? The hero commission being all corrupt is stupid, cuz if they wanted to do all that, then actually put some time into it, instead of just making a mention about it. Build it up. Shit just ended up being completely forgotten. The biggest problem with the classmates is that they're just one big hivemind sharing a single damn braincell. They aren't seen as individuals in this thing, just extensions of the damn plot. Real bad arc, worst arc of the series so far.
You have such strong, well thought-out, solid points it’s hard to disagree with you lol, and yet this show created such a complex story and history, however, the characters seem to skip exposition for the sake of nothing. Endeavor has literally done illegal things to his wife and kids, yet no one gave a shit. There’s absolutely no trauma or lingering trauma from other things, which takes away the potential depth this show could have. It’s fun it’s shonen, so it’s simple. What can ya do?
Finally, someone with a working brain in this comments section. Honestly, everyone's standards in story-telling is actually concerning, at this point. You can love a story but still say: "Hey, this story is still bad/could have been written better."
As an mha fans the huge issue is that it was way too safe and it went with the Disney power of friendship route like mha just wasted it’s worldbuilding heavily deku could’ve explored the world more and realise how chaotic everything has become with him losing his insanity
The fact that most people are commenting “ I don’t agree. I liked it cause you know cool fights and no boring dialogue” is what’s wrong with the fandom. Not saying you have to hate it but if you could look past literally everything good the author has done writing wise being erased for the story to rap up that’s just annoying lol. Listen I still overall enjoyed the arc I honestly don’t hate any of the arcs but at this point I just turn my brain off for these new chapters. I no longer think cause what’s their to think about? Still a fun series but it didn’t just have to be just “fun”.
I thought I was going crazy or something. He brings up decent points in the video and almost none of the top comments address them or even really acknowledge them. But I do understand just turning your brain off and liking cool fight scenes.
I used stopped reading the manga before this Arc. I also watched a video before about the flaws of this arc as well, and I just lost interest after watching that and I was more disappointed when I watched this video. I mean, quirks and fight scenes are cool and all but there's also a lot that the author left out and missed to address. I was still thinking of continuing the manga, but I'll just drop it.
I think the entirety of act 3 of this series is being rushed. This arc is one of my favorites but it could have been the best if it wasn't limited to like 15 chapters. Characters should have had time to reflect on Dekus choice and not just be introduced when he needs to be saved. We should have seen more scenarios where deku is the only hero able to fight since Hawks got burned, Endeavor is traumatized, and other heroes are retiring left and right. I love this arc and what deku is in this arc. We just needed more time to let it all cook correctly
Some where and i agree with most of it, the biggest objective points are a. The lack of physical and societal consequences, as they just do not exist after all the buildup and b. The trashing of the background can't, mainly 1-a and a few select heroes. If none or most of them wereent shown post s5 it would not have change a single thing up til now
Yeah, it's basically a video of him saying: This is how I wanted season 6 to go. Then, he portrays it as failures of the season rather than portraying it as a subjective opinion. The whole video can be summarised into one point, which is that he wishes the series would flesh things out more, which is more of a preference than a failure.
It was ok everything you mentioned is fair points but I casually read it and it was alright the only part of it I really liked was the choreography and fighting of the lady nagant fight but I didn’t notice any of the problems you mentioned in this video upon first reading
I am flabbergasted by all the comments saying this arc was acceptable. It was truly the worst season of MHA. It wasn’t even close to the impact of the earlier seasons. I think these commenters need to rewatch the anime. The war arc was fine, but all of what was good about it was undone by the dark hero arc. Completely ruined it for me.
Personally for me, Vigilante Deku was a good arc because it was the first step into Deku's character. People have always been complaining about how Deku is a crybaby and how his crying gets annoying. Now all of a sudden, when Deku goes out and changes his personality, and people switch up now saying Deku is one of the best new gen MC's. Seriously, people only like it when Deku suffers. It's like Spider-Man all over again. The writers love bullying him and they can never seem to give him a happy ending.
Also Season 6 was not the worst season of MHA since we literally got a bunch of cool moments from different characters during the War Arc. Besides, during the Dark Hero Arc, we literally got to see a different version of Deku which was awesome because it was about time, we finally had a different version of him. We also literally got two cool moments of him fighting with two different villains. It just needed more time to develop Deku as a character. Seriously though, this is literally the best version of Deku.
I am honestly surprised at the fact some comments are like "I agree it was short"...is that really what most people think? Just "short"? I remember when the manga went through the arc and everyone was throwing hands at each other because it not only was short, it also had the worst rushed closure for an arc that had SO much potential. Though I get it, by implying it was a short arc it lacked many things people would have liked to see but COME ON! My Hero Academia has the most toxic fandom and you expect me to believe they are calmly agreeing it was short?? I was there when all videos on this arc in the manga had a comment section full of hate. I was expecting a worse storm when the anime aired and surprisingly I haven't seen it blow up like it should have. It could also be that people who simply watch the anime don't care for plot and such...or left soon after this arc ended, can't judge them tho.
That was why I fell off MHA. There weren't any consequences so I was just detached the entire time. Why get emotionally invested if the stakes aren't legit? If all I wanted was spectacle, I'd watch Dragon Ball Z or Super.
I found Deku really interesting from the beginning! I don't see where it's supposed to be that Deku has become less interesting and poorly developed! We must not forget that he is still a child! He doesn't have an easy life for a child!
@@jeffali5157 kinda helps when said 6 quirks are pretty useless by themselves and aside from say Black Whip, the other quirks werent that hard to learn. Smokescreen, Danger Sense, Float, even Fa Jin and Gear Shift just needs readjustment since theyre just motions Deku has already done which were kinetic buildup shock and adjustment to speed
@@itsjustvin7630 float is the only one I would say in the grand scheme of things is pretty useless by itself, everything else has been helpful. He had a chance to be interesting but man was it underutilized. He isn’t bad, but man the way they did things for him isn’t ideal.
@@jeffali5157 like i said theyre useless by themselves. they hardly need mastering. hell danger sense and smokescreen doesnt really need mastering and fa jin and gear shift are motions deku is already used to
@@itsjustvin7630 fa Jin and gear shift did need some mastering even if the motions are familiar with what they could do. Though either way things got rushed so it wouldn’t have mattered if it needed mastering or not.
I wanted him to ar least change after the experience and develop. Maybe he becomes gruffer, less enamored with being a hero or something but he just goes back to pre vigilante arc like nothing happened.
@@QuintonT exactly it makes you wonder what was even the point 🤷🏽♀️. Definitely a missed opportunity. This transition should have lasted longer than it did. Sad
@@DarkDoughnutsVids that’s what I’m saying the fans were calling him dark deku and hyping this arc up and he wasn’t really even doing anything dark and the arc kinda just was disappointing to me.
@@imtherealtammygonna6216 Isn't the arc literally called something along the lines of "Dark Hero?" What fucking hero anywhere in the entire story is even remotely "dark?" I don't really think you could make a case for Endeavor or Hawks because their actions are completely glossed over and apparently all Deku needed was a splash in a bath. MHA is genuinely amazing at set-ups but God awful at payoffs
I would've liked it, if he either escaped from his friends the way he was intending to or actually fought them and showed them they genuinely can't keep up, cause fact is they cant. Deku is the only one that can 1v1 shigaraki and survive
The failure with it is the same failure with the manga at the moment, its too rushed and theres not enough build up. Everything going on makes sense , it just feels like its speeding through arcs that should have been their own seasons just to get to the end. Ffs, there still in their first year i believe, all this stuff should have been in like year 3 or 4.
3:34 Funnily enough, Native does not actually die to the Decay Wave. He actually gets killed by a Near High End after the fact (you can see the dog one nibbling on him during that fight), so Tomura's decay actually killed no named characters besides X-Less, who the anime confirms died before the wave even started. Edit: Forgot about Crust, so just one character
This is an example of why you shouldn't give your villains lethal powers, unless your ready to kill off some of your cast members, so in a series where main characters and even side characters just CAN'T die under any circumstance it was pretty clear Shigaraki wasn't gonna do much, just look at Bakugo's "death", he got his heart destroyed by Shigaraki and then got revived two chapters later.
@@princevegeta6765 As a writer, I can understand the desire to want the characters you have created and love to stay alive, but you make a great point.
I think it was the best arc we've had in my hero academia in the anime for ages, maybe ever, the way they made the show look felt perfect for the arc and set the mood really well. My problem with cour 1 of s6 and all of s5 was that it felt like something big was missing, whereas in the Manga it felt so much more horrific and serious, I think it could have been the use of bright color that made it feel like the horrific scenes were much less emotional. The vigilante arc fixed this problem with the art style and more muted colors.
First half was raw but the second half was way too rushed and ended underwhelmingly when there were plans for a lot more and bringing Deku back to his old self and all ok really wasn’t ideal especially after everything he went through and what happens later on really makes it all the more baffling on how this got rushed thanks to the bad editor among other things
@@jeffali5157 the manga itself is kinda being rushed, because its reaching the end of mha i think none of these things where planned ahead of time and thats why its being rushed, next season is gonna bbe rushed too so prepare for tht..
My only gripe, like many others here, is that the “Dark Hero” Arc was just incredibly short. It could’ve been longer showing more and more of Deku’s mental state deteriorating and how everyone around him is slowly but progressively changing in terms of worrying about him and wanting to help him. I also would’ve liked him to lean more into becoming Villainous because of how drastically he is changing mentally and physically. Not only did he get a pretty badass Dark Deku design, but they really could’ve leaned more into that where like the overuse of his powers gave him different colored eyes and even have the electricity crackling off him a different color too. And maybe even have some of the Pro-Heroes really look at Deku like he’s a Vigilante considering that’s basically what he was. And maybe have Deku bring a villain he is chasing close to the brink of death being bloodied and battered with other heroes looking to him like he could be a Villain. There was so much the Dark Hero Arc could’ve done but didn’t and it sucks considering we are way past that now.
Unfortunately I agree with you that I think Horikoshi is rushing the ending. But from what I understand MHA has been a much longer anime than he initially intended. But I agree... I feel like we could have had a few more years / seasons of Deku developing and learning his other quirks. But I wonder if it's because of how Mangakas are treated and that they have absolutely no time to just relax... they are always forced to pump out manga after manga... mental health be damned... so I wonder if he's just tired and trying to finish it as soon as possible... coz even Star and Stripe felt rushed to me. And I agree about the lack of consequences in that more people should have died. Gran Torino and at least one person of Class 1A. Also I hate how quick Mirio got his powers back... all rushed. Also I agree with Horikoshi not just overlooking trauma... however I feel like there is time for that after the War. That when this is all finished they talk about the death they have seen and the collective trauma everyone has experienced. But we will see... I hope he doesn't fumble the ball... but saying that I enjoyed season 6... especially compared with season 5.
"mha has been a much longer anime than initially intended'' idk....8 seasons just ain't enough. With the amount of aspects and characters the story presents just to chicken out of. It really should've been longer. I get Hori's mental health but why couldn't he just take a break?
@@sunsetoverdrive2when321 I agree... there was so much wasted potential. And I understand Horikoshi intended for it to be a shorter manga than it was. But it really could have developed so much better given proper time. But yea I guess that's the trouble of the pressures or such a successful manga. Mangakas are not really given much time to do anything but make the big machines money.
I know a lot of people in the comment section say they like this arc and that's fine... but I'm sorry. A "vigilante arc" where said vigilante is only one for about a week before getting friendship speeched for several chapters in a row back to being a hero is kind of lame. I've seen other series do it way better. Spoilers for Tower of God but when Bam became somewhat of a vigilante, it took his team several arcs to get him back, we followed him and how he learned to open up to people again, and uncovered an entire organization and their dynamics with the power system of the tower. I wouldn't even call Deku's little emo dabble an actual vigilante arc. It was a few chapters of him running away from home.
Honestly i think if they fully jumped in and had deku fully fall to despair and give it all up to do what he feels like a has to that could be oretty good. Riding the line and not commiting to anything makes it extra weak.
Mha's biggest problem is that hori set up so many plotlines and events that could go so far and explore so much, and then he just pulls the rug and says "nah, anyway here's mirkos azz for the millionth time". Then it gets to such a large scale of well this is happening now because ain't cool? Does it matter, did it add? No, but wasn't it cool? Looking at you stars and stripes and the bubble. Also i like her design for 2 obious reasons but what was the point of nagant? Isn't the commission already dead? And why was overhaul just getting pulled along while being made to look like a wimp?
The only mistake of the arc for me is that it was too short, I liked everything else and can't really complain much.
exactly, it was just too short than I thought it was gonna be
Yea
It had unnecessary hype.
Yeah honestly it is one of the best arcs, not sure what tf this guy is talking about.
I feel like most of the complaints for this arc are just very nitpicky or they just blatantly ignore the context of the story at the moment for all of the issues they have not being addressed. When I see people bring up the lack of consequences for Endeavor or Hawks I just question the readership. Who the fuck is going to hold them accountable for their crimes in societies' current state?
You could argue Hawks' lack of apprehension towards Endeavor is a little weird but Hawks is inherently biased towards him but he is also capable of seeing the man he is now isnt the same as back then.
I dont have an issue with the power progression at all it makes sense given the context of the story and still comes with adequate risk even fueling deku's self destructive tendencies even more in this arc which was the best part, even if the finish wasnt as good as it could've been.
I've had to argue with way too many people that cant suspend their disbelief over the top two heroes not being indicted amidst societal collapse or how they clearly get plenty of pushback especially Endeavor for their sins, ala Dabi and failing to keep the public safe. We're literally shown society turning its back on its protectors so hard even the heroes we thought were legit like Death Arms hung up the suit.
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Bakugo had got killed again
@@san45bar I hope he stars dead this time at least
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A the proof is in the manga
He isn't really confirmed dead but not alive eighter
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A no joke he not lieing
he dies again like die die
The only mistake for me is calling people calling it the vigilante arc. Horikoshi confirmed it was the Dark hero Arc.
I keep calling it the Vigilante Deku arc, but only because Dark hero arc sounds more like the hero turned into a villain, but that's just me.
Vigilante sounds cooler deal with it 😁
@@vg-_-universal8283 also not canon. Real name is Dark Deku.
@@shirokane0153 🤓 “also not canon heh”
@@vg-_-universal8283 Horikoshi came up with that name...so...you can blame him for it. Vigilante Deku like Cremation is a fan name. If you've read the spinoff manga, calling Deku a vigilante makes zero sense as he has a provisional lisence.
My main problem with these kind of shounen animes is that they are too afraid to kill off characters and it feel unnatural for so many people to make it out considering the stakes. It reflects badly on the villains and makes them seem incompetent and barely threatening :/
That's One of my biggest issue with shounen
That's a pretty frequent occurrence for most media aimed at middle schoolers.
Yeah Horikoshi shouldve pulled a Tatsuki Fujimoto
This is why Aot is my favorite anime
@@ihave40wins63 I'm honestly too scared to watch aot in case I get attached to a character that dies :(
What I dislike the most about the arc is that I never really understood WHY Deku had such a huge change in character. Like I get that a ton of people died, but no one in Shiggy's battle against the characters. If you want to turn Deku into a Batman like character, then kill off someone important to him like his mother or even a classmate and have him witness or even be partially responsible for it. If you don't want to make such huge sacrifices, then don't act like you did.
Also, this arc was far too short. A character change this big, especially for the main character is something have affects that last for the rest of the story, now it's like it never even happened.
This is a good thought, but I don’t think a character needs to die to explain the change. Bakugo sacrificing himself to protect Deku was enough to explain the transition. Deku actually sees and knows that everyone would sacrifice for you, because you are the savior. This is a heavy burden to bear. To me, that was more than enough to explain the transition.
Well, there is a reason why Deku had an entire change of character. This was supposed to give a darker and scarier version of Deku. For about 10 years now since MHA released, a lot of the anime community are always complaining about Deku's crying. They always complain that he is a crybaby and that he cries too much. What I also find ironic is that when Deku eventually went out and changed into an entirely different person, people were now switching up and hyping up Deku acting like he is the best new gen MC of current anime. Also, yeah I do agree with the killing of person. But the problem is which character do we kill off because it has to be a person that Deku extremely cares about.
I mean is it really fair to both complain about this being too short, AND not warranted enough? Which would be better? Deku's Mom dying and the arc still being short? That wouldn't make sense. Or maybe the arc being ten chapters longer? What would we even get out of that?
@@leritykay8911 At least it would explain the drastic change... These are two pretty unrelated issues so I don't see why one has to exist without the other.
@@rato_o6841 Well I'm just saying, duration of a change also affects how drastic it is. Like if someone is very hungry and becomes agitated until he eats, that's not a drastic change. But if someone becomes agitated and angry for a few weeks straight, it IS.
So the way I see it, it follows that if Deku didn't have a huge reason, then the change wasn't THAT drastic. He was putting on that mask for what, a week?
Uraravitys speech is beautiful it almost made me cry
The wrappings were from America where sheald built then for all might, this connects the first movie to the main story where it's really nice to see
For me it highlighted Deku’s flaws . His tendency to risk his life. Though he throws his life away too much that he can’t really save anyone.
it highlights it but actually doesn't do anything with it. The characters or even Deku himself never adress it
@@thefull9746 what do you mean, dekus tendency to hold the burden by himself was said by tsuyu and shoto, telling him they were strong enough for deku to help him shoulder said burden.
@@nikamoreillus661 that's not the type of thing that is supposed to be fixed just by another character saying "We can help you with it". The issue deserves more (it's litterally Deku's biggest flaw, the crux of his character)
@@thefull9746 ochaco's speech helps deku to understand that he can't hold this by himself and to not put his class in such a low regard acknowledging that it's not just him that's going to become the greatest hero but everyone in class 1a. Then allmight was supposed to die because he kept on pushing himself the limit eventually burning out ofa in the process and almost died and it's the same with deku, he pushed himself too much and got some z's midbattle fr.
@@nikamoreillus661you’re missing the entire point. Deku needs to solve Deku problems. In Naruto, Naruto needs to solve Naruto problems. In bleach, Inchgo needs to solve inchgo problems and in One Piece, Luffy needs solve luffy problems.
Getting help is fine but Ochaco can’t solve Deku personal problems for him, Deku needed to say something for himself or recognize his own problems and he never really did.
Also the problem doesn’t end in one conversation. Deku is a good hero because he pushes himself and actually cares about people, so the story applying that part of him is just a bad thing sorta goes against Deku entire character.
The Dark Hero Arc is honestly one of my favorites. Seeing Deku just fight and not overthink everything was awesome, and I'm happy they took a more dark tone compared to last seasons
Glad you likes it now, because it'll be like this never happened, he goes to the way he was before when Horikoshi actually puts him in the story instead of 101 new and side characters, and he never has and growth, thoughts or internal consequences to his month long, self destructive rampage
It's barely darker than Overhaul, what are you talking about?
People call it dark but he just beat up people while looking dirty with a mask. Nothing “dark” happened. Even vigilante Deku isn’t right because he has a license and is right now publicly known as the strongest hero. Better name is lonely Deku arc.
The issue is that after Nagat fight we don't see him beating other bad guys AFO send after him before Tyrant comes in. It felt jarring how we got from Nagat dropping important plot point, only for Deku being rushed to get back with the class and then Stripes comes in to be the most bizarre in manga filler.
@@egbertmilton4003 1: that's the name of the arc and 2: Deku's in a darker place and looks dark what are you talking about?
i liked it because for once hes the main character.. not 500 different side characters and their personal storys + battles that take up 40m of the episode
but dont get me wrong i totally agree seeing their own personalities, the thing that blew my mind when i watched this was when momo lost her confidence and thinking back to the sports festival, its when the characters actually felt human to me, but not its just... either nothing, or dragged the hell out
I literally said to my gf that this is the first time he’s really been the main character!
Honestly he still isn’t even the main focus he never gets to talk about all he’s been through he was discriminated against for something he had no control over for year’s physically and mentally and no one ever talks about it not even him
This was my favorite arc. I also read the manga.
My only problem with it is that is was too short... It could have easily been a whole season worth of material imo. Where maybe we even see less of deku and instead we just see him in the backround... IDK. Still an AMAZING arc.
I think that you meant that it was too short in which case I agree with you. Seeing him more in the background would've definitely been nice. Like they tease him being in background with the rumors circulating and all but that sort of loses it effectiveness when the audience is still following him as a protagonist.
@@TheAluvisify Twas a typo and has been fixed. Thanks!
Funny because to me it was my favorite arc that got me back into MHA. Ok maybe not favorite because USJ and Sport Festival are still better.
its a great concept but horrible execution
Deku is still too good for me i want him a little more realistic.
because this series is trash
@@raydygonzalez5714 its a shonen..
@@ClavinZKL And your point? Just because it's a Shounen manga, it doesn't mean that the hero/protagonist cannot be "realistic" or break away even a little from the standard mold.
My biggest issue here is that For an Arc that is Named ‘Dark Deku’. Midoriya himself feels way too…Restrained. Like I’m not saying that he should Start brutalizing or killing people but I feel like he should be way more Spiteful and Even Pissed at the world throughout the Arc.
Maybe like,Deku always Had these thoughts but The people Of UA(both whom he looked up to and Looked up to him) kept his Rage in check. But now that they aren’t here,He lets out those feelings in the most cathartic way he can. Beating up People. And more dangerously People that by some means Deserve it.
Deku has always been a characters that has this very Raw and Almost Unabashed Rage(Like in his Fight with Shoto,or his fight with overhaul and more recently aginst Shigaraki and late AFO)
And it has always felt like an Anger that isn’t just something of the moment,But its something that Feels that it comes from the depts of his soul.
But no,Deku Has to be the Good Boi even when he Doesn’t have to be
This is honestly my favorite part of MHA for me still tbh. I agree with everything you said, but for what we did get I really enjoyed. The weekly reading experience for this arc was incredible and seeing what twists and turns it took was extremely fun to read. Seeing Deku post PLW trying to take on the weight of the world by himself still is so interesting, and I loved it even if it never really got concluded properly. Starting it off with a Deku vs Muscular rematch was an absolutely insane introduction to the final act, and I just wish we got to see more of that. Imagine if Hori started to explore the idea of mutant discrimination in this arc. Imagine if we actually got more interactions with all might and Deku, and a scene of Melissa giving all might the new full gauntlet prototypes. Am I disappointed? Yes. But did I enjoy what was good. Absolutely. Great video btw.
I dont fully understand saying "I'm disappointed in the overall arc while being happy with what I got."
@@dflaming1371disappointed because its short, but good while it was there
Literally what twists? He got broody for like 10 chapters and then he wasn’t anymore.
It didn't deliver what could have happened. Just an average arc at best.
The MHA manga tends to reflect the different eras of American superhero comics, and the vigilante Deku arc is an almost perfect deconstruction of the 90s trend of edgy antiheroes. Deku's costume even begins to resemble characters like Venom and Spawn.
How is it a deconstruction when it doesn't say anything. As someone who has read a lot of comics the only thing that screamed anti hero was his costume getting jacked, nothing truly happened. I don't get how you can call it a deconstruction.
"Deconstruction" has become a buzz word. Every single show that is pretty good is called Deconstruction these days
@Jamal Hartley "Deconstruction" may not be the best word, but it seemed the best fit for an arc that simultaneously pays homage to and critiques an era of comics generally defined by loner anti-heros, x-treme aethetics (animalistic poses, torn clothes, accessories, claws, etc.), distrust of authority, and general nihilism. The story has been building up the cracks in hero society for it's entire run, and it finally comes to a head with the formation of the PLF, the failure to stop Shiguraki, and Dabi's public address. Midorya is then seemingly set up to fall into the life of a solo vigilante after his encounter with Lady Nagant, where he'd eventually be forced to gradually lose his humanity and resort to more violent means. The intervention of class 1-A not only pulls Deku out of his downward spiral, but also refutes the very notion of nihilism and solo anti-heros. And they do this not through some saccharine speech about hope and friendship, but by drawing on their shared experiences, acknowledging the failures of the hero society, forcing Deku to see his actions are driven by fear, and demonstrating how much more affective they are working together. It may seem a bit rushed, but I felt it was efficient and effective.
@@PainCausingSamurai I get that since this the first arc where Deku actually acts like a super hero 😅 so I get why some like it.
Although violent? Nah. The only thing edgy about Izuku was his costume. He saved a guy who tortured a little girl aka Overhaul during the Nagant fight. So I didn't see that downward spiral you talking about. Would've been cool if we got that though!
Plus that edge in the 90s was so short lived because it can't last. No one wants to read that every issue so it's focused onto characters who can carry that like Daredevil, Batman, Punisher, and the like.
I would say it's more of a subversion of 90s edgy antiheroes. Midoriya has been adamant and diligent in fighting villains and saving lives. So diligent in fact, he has begun to neglect self care and has isolated himself from his friends, family, and eventually All Might. He seems to act more like Batman, always vigilant, always out prowling the streets. He looks like a monster, but his actions are quite heroic, leading to mixed rumors in the masses.
Ok, so I was not the only anime only watcher who thought that 'is that it?' for the Vigilante arc of Deku... manga readers were hyping it down to the last second after the war arc... so my expectations were there.. and granted the fight scenes were cool and some might even be some of the best in the anime, but it felt like the whole Vigilante arc was going upwards into a climax, but then you realized this is the climax and it suddenly ended... it's like a riding a rollercoaster and you're climbing up only to realize once you're at the top that's were the ride ends and you're actually not sliding down...
Well, the thing is I absolutely agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I personally love Vigilante Deku and he looks awesome. But the only problem I see with this arc is Deku VS Class 1a because it arrived way to early in the story. I wish Horikoshi actually gave more time to develop this arc so Deku can finally be developed into his own character. Seriously though, we got some cool action fight scenes and it felt good seeing Deku become an entirely different person than he was a couple of seasons ago. But the problem with this arc in general is the wasted potential of Deku as a character. At this point, Horikoshi just wants to be done with MHA and nothing more.
As a manga reader it wasn't any better there either. I have no idea why some people were hyping it up.
Yeah I was expecting so much from vigilante deku but when I got to it it just felt like a kid ran away from home to the nearest playground then got picked up by his parents 4 hours later then went to bed
Midnight’s death was so glossed over, it was insulting.
Seeing people say this arc is “so dark” is laughable since no one noteworthy but Midnight died
Bakagou serves no other purpose in the story and hasn’t for a while. He is a weakling compared to the top now and Deku. He could’ve served a better character dying sacrifice himself to Deku
We shouldve seen these other heros with names, but side characters die in droves during the Decay Wave
If you didnt wanna touch class 1-A fine but even someone from class B losing their lives wouldve had a great effect.
Kendo, Pony, even Momura
Midnight died? I completely forgot 💀
@@thedestroyer5794exactly
can't really kill monoma off that easily cuz he's the reason why shigaraki didn't instantly one shot the entire verse yet
@@thedestroyer5794 the most irrelevant death in all of mha. I probably would've been a little more sad if it was gran torino dying or even all might dying in the final war arc
but nah bakugo wakes up from being dead and gets saved by edgeshot, gets a powerup and goes on to fight against prime afo
I really hate that MHA is being rushed to its end. There’s still so much to explore and expand on. But the anime industry wants its next factory cut&paste isekai cash grab so I guess this series is on the chopping block.
Well… who knows we might still see a little more. U never know.
Well the thing is, shonen jump isn’t rushing the series to end, looking at the popularity chart, MHA still doing real good and always gets into the top 5. The one rushing it to end is actually Horikoshi himself as he’s kind of grown tired of making manga and wants to retire (which is understandable cuz being a mangaka sucks) and so is pretty much speedrunning to the end
Man I hate the anime community 😅 everything I enjoy everyone else seems to hate. I guess I’m just weird. This was one of my favourite arcs I ever watched in any anime…I don’t get it.
It's not really that they hate it. I also like the arc not gonna lie it's pretty good. What he's ranting about is how this arc kinda fails to build off the loss and action that happened in the previous arc. It's just mainly been about cool sequences and moments but doesn't focus on all the consequences. I do love Midoroya's growth and stuff but it feels like they forgetting alot of things that happened in previous arcs which we were expecting to be resolved in Villian hunt.
Sammmmee idk y but ppl alway like to focus on the negative side always they won’t look on the positive side just did u enjoyed it?? If u did enjoy it then I find that it’s successful regardless of the negative things in it, and I can see that you all really enjoy it, but all you do is just focusing on the negative points, just compare the positive points with the negative ones, and you will see that the positive points are much more than the negative ones. There is no perfect series from all sides always People just like to come and spoil the series with their useless comments. What does not make any work successful is because of people's different tastes, so please be grateful for the work without criticizing it because I am sure that every writer has his own style of writing and every writer cares about people's opinions And every writer wants his story to succeed, so please focus on the positive points more than the negative ones and be more grateful for the work.
You aren’t alone in this. It’s so strange to me how my top two favorite series (MHA and Bleach) also just happen to be two of the most hated and slandered series of all time. I know they aren’t perfect, but NO series is perfect.
@@scottvgamer1163 like some ppl just piss me off with their offensive comments about the work. There are some people who do not like anything and there is nothing that fills their eyes, no matter how good the work is.
UA-camr: Watches 6 seasons of anime, proceeds to talk about it in depth and shows that he truly cares about the material. Cares enough he wishes it was better.
Comments: Wow, so negative, why don't you just talk about the positive stuff
Don't know about you, but for me I loved the "Vigilante Deku arc", definitively one of my favourite arcs in the entire series, i'm really surprised you preferer the "Joint training arc" more than the "Vigilante Deku arc", but hey! it's your opinion.
Hopefully one day I make a video going over my issues with the arc
I enjoyed it at first but when you actually watch it properly there are many holes
Personally I loved the start of the arc, but it just ended in a way that was so unsatisfying. I still like the arc, but man I really wanted some deep introspection from Deku and we just didn't get it :(
@@chromulus2225 I understand how u feel tbh and I hate how there is a lack of acknowledgement from the rest of the cast as students see their teachers DIE IN FRONT OF THEM
My problem with the arc was thanks to a misunderstanding of what was coming due to the fanbase. Everyone spoke do highly of the upcoming "vigilante" arc. So my expectations were for a Deku that was crueler, alone, and chased by the heroes. I wanted him to do things that he somewhat regretted and learn from his regrets. So I was definitely underwhelmed when he was basically no more than a sadboi who wouldn't let anyone love and support him
I mean yeah “vigilante arc” is definitely misleading
@@Lumberjack_kingit’s very misleading. It makes them think he’s leaving behind the flawed hero system that largely caused a lot of these problems and doing away with being an enforcer of the system and government and instead doing what he believes is morally right. But instead, he’s just being an antisocial workaholic who pushes everyone away to go solo
@@wizardwolf1020 ok
I like this arc. But it also frustrates me, it felt too shallow, and too short. He went from *alone* and *scared.* to suddenly okay when his class says it felt very whiplash like.
I don’t doubt my hero academia vigilante has flaws, but I still love my hero academia.
Still honestly this was what I was waiting for and imo it’s the best we’ve gotten the animation in the fights was top notch, me and my coworker loved every second of it considering after work every Saturday night we would sit and watch it and it was simply badass deku and we loved it
I honestly wish this arc was a hybrid of canon and filler, as a kong arc exploring Deku's descent into the darkness of loneliness to protect his loved ones thus bringing proper build up to Class 1-A saving him. Delve into the flaws of the life of a vigilante, what a man has to go through, what mindset he has to enter to face that path, show at times Deku can hesitate wondering if he made a mistake, but presses on stubbornly, maybe occassionally run into some classmates here and there who try to convince him to come home before the big fight.
deku having rizz is enough for me
His character has no rizz though.
@@egbertmilton4003 He literally does
@@offensiveGame-Ing he has fake rizz. writer wanted deku to get bitches so he just wrote it in. deku still has no rizz.
@@mulanomula If Deku is getting bïtches then that means he has rizz bruh
@@egbertmilton4003 Deku pulled Uraraka without trying, how does he not have rizz?
Honestly I get all you're points, but this arc right here is downright my favorite because we finally get to see Deku experimented as a character and his vigilante form looks fire. It looks goated. Although I do have a few problems:
1. I would've liked it if there has been a chapter dedicated to where the students and teachers mourn the loss of Midnight. There, it would make us remember Midnight much more.
2. Deku isn't really a vigilante since he has a license. But whatever, if you want to call him "Vigilante Deku", then alright.
Also I respect you're opinion and it's fine if you don't like My Hero Academia. I know it's not the best well written series. But you're MHA videos look awesome and I'll be sure to check them out myself. :)
he's not saying he doesn't like MHA, he quite literally giving a constructive take ( could we call this scrutiny???) on a arc. Simply put it, if you like it base on how you feel that's fine but going through from a narrative perspective will always take precedence. As much as i myself enjoy this arc, one thing ill not regard as good is the abrupt and erratic switches in time and lack of detail given to him improving his innate abilties and character. No inner conflict, growth in ideology or nuance to how he is developing ( side characters aside) as he is, just a radicalised altruistic hero who wants to remove everything to save everything.
@Roberto The Super Mutant What? I'm just giving my opinion. That's all
@@famousfox6318 Yeah I know bruh
your* also i see you dissing one piece on your channel L
I couldn't agree more on the Midnight take. Midnight was one of my top 5 favorite hero and, yes, a little bit because of how they sexualize her but it's because although she is sexualized a lot, she actually does her job of being a hero. She's a hero that likes showing off her body but when she needs to be a hero she acts like a hero. Midnight will definitely be remembered for me but I full on agree that she would be more remembered if they gave her a moment where everyone mourn over Midnight and even a few other hero's that lost their life.
honestly i found the villain hunt arc really enjoyable and am not saying that because it was only "raw" moments
i found good writting in this arc PERSONALLY
but even then this video does say some of my problems with this arc,
the all might and deku meeting,class 1As reactions, hawks wings and bakugos apology to a extend
i dont really think dekus character was "bastardized" or "ruined" per say but i 100% agree he SHOULD have more of a POV
i PERSONALLY believe he has more stuff in act 3 ( i feel like me saying that rised some eyebrows)
but at the same time his character devolpment feels "shackled"? i do believe his trauma is shown in his moment when he sees bakugos corpses (and the anime exclusive moment)
but damn i miss the interactions between the kids
but again thats just my opinion
great video! you did a amazong job covering some of my problems with the arc!
You seem very defensive of your point of view, friend. Don't be! We already know it's your opinion, we already know you PERSONALLY think this by merit of the fact that you're posting it yourself in the first place.
Cheers, be more confident!
@@rodrigoa.m3566 "You seem very defensive of your point of view, "
yeah thats my fault 😅
i got insulted and got into arguement a few times because i said my opinion in these types of videos because i kinda have a more positive few on mha then most
but you know what your right!
i should be more confident in myself, i just get a little anxeious because how much people can be aggressive, of course i dont think peopel are ALL like this, just a few bad apples
but again thank you!
your comment made me smile
@@AgentNero9 I'm glad to know :) with that, you bring a smile to me as well
Ehhh, I keep seeing the comments just defend Deku and one or two comments say: "Finally, I agree", but I just think, personally, that the War Arc and the Vigilante arc is just bad/rushed writing.
I'm not saying this to be mean or to discredit people's taste in anime shows. People can like what they like and I say this as someone who will finish MHA when the next season comes out. However, when I look back on both the war arc and the vigilante arc, I just see both arcs with bad writing. Sure, there are good points to the arcs, but, as an average anime goer that has invested time into MHA, I can point out the flaws that really bug me greatly in both arcs and I honestly believe that is just bad/rushed writing.
I don't blame Horikoshi entirely, he could be on a rushed schedule, but I am allowed to look at something I enjoy watching and say: "This could have been done much better."
Here y’all go
they REALLY need to slow down and take time to really process everything around them and just "lol lets just rap this up and move on"
Eh. There were things that I agree with, like the main cast's reaction to hawks killing, their mourning of midnight, and having gran Torino die, but all the deku stuff...
I have absolutely no idea where you got "deku destroys his body because he was discriminated against and he chalks up all of his problems on all might not being there". I don't know why people expected deku to bring up bakugo's bullying when deku's already moved past it, so I don't see what else they could've done (it was always something bakugo needed to get over).
Might just be me, but I thought deku solving his self worth issues began with him accepting the name "deku" and ended when he chose it as his hero name.
Personally, I don't see the problem with fa jin, danger sense, or smokescreen. The last two are basically just tools with one of them being something he can't turn on or off. Danger sense is practically spider sense in my eyes, so I don't really see the point of "mastering" it if it even can be. The reason that I don't have a problem with fa jin is because it shouldn't stop deku from using the real 100%. Fa jin is just a build up of a kinetic energy, so if the enemy can stop him from building up that energy, then he wouldn't be able to fake 100%.
Overall, if I'm wrong in some places or all of it, then I have no problem with that. I'm glad that I at least bothered to watch the video all the way to the end.
Maybe I'm just an mha shill and I don't acknowledge any of the problems that's currently plaguing the series because I'm honestly enjoying what I've watched and read without any or too many issues. Either way, this was a great video 👍.
The way I see it in the case of Deku's self-destructive personality stemming from his years of systematic verbal and physical abuse at Bakugo's hands is best illustrated is when he's on that rooftop being told by All Might that he can never be a hero, literally vindicating EVERYTHING that Bakugo had been telling him for the majority of his young life, and further vindicating Bakugo's words that if Deku wants to be a hero then he should just kill himself and hope in his next life he'll have a Quirk. Just imagine that every horrible, uncaring word that you've been told your entire life was just echoed by the hero you've loved and respected your entire life... what would you want to do next on that rooftop? Now imagine that after that, you FINALLY got the Quirk, the POWER you've been longing for your entire life to give all the hardships you've been through over the years meaning and purpose... well, you'd want to keep that feeling wouldn't you? You would never allow yourself to not live up to the expectations of those who gave you such power, to prove people like Bakugo wrong in saying you are worthless, who gave you the power to continue the fight against villainy and evil... even if that meant rending your flesh, breaking your bones, tearing your very body to bloody shreds... because if you did, then you would be back on that roof wouldn't you? Reminded that you are a worthless human being... That you should never have been given this power to begin with... That everything you endured to reach this point was meaningless... That ultimately the best thing you should've done at that moment was take the leap and hope that next time will be better than this one...
That IS what Midoria's mindset has been throughout the entire series and the person who started all of this was Bakugo. Just because Deku got over his bullying and abuse doesn't mean he's over the trauma of it, of being forced back onto that rooftop facing down his inadequacies every single time he fails to meet everybody's expectations because he wasn't good enough to win and wonder if what's on the other side is the better deal. And so in order for Midoria to finally get over his self destructive attitude, he NEEDS to face its ultimate cause... and the apology wasn't that. What should've happened is that after Bakugo said he was sorry for what he did to Deku, Deku should've then dumped everything he felt back at Bakugo. The years of abuse, the agony of trying to befriend and stand by a boy that would never allow it, the soul grinding of being told day after day that he was, is, and will never be a human being in the eyes of the people around him.
It is only when both Midoria and Bakugo are made to face the consequences of their actions can Bakugo truly say sorry for what he has done to Midoria and Deku can truly forgive him for it and begin to lay the pains and inadequacies of his past to rest... so that both can finally begin to walk the same path together than Deku had always wanted his entire life...
Now take this little opinion of mine and compare it to the apology we got in the manga and anime... do you still think that that moment was earned and helped to repair their relationship?
Good take. you're making a lot sense than most of these people in this comment section.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I still kinda think that version we got was earned, but I do like your take. At the same time though, I just don't think that deku is the type of character to dump everything that he's ever felt on to someone. This is a most likely wrong take from me since I just don't remember him doing something like that.
That's all I have to say now, so have a nice day.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I agree with your comment but I think in my opinion that deku shouldn't have forgiven Bakugo yet because it was 10 years to late for that
@@QTRemnant Guess I can't argue too much there, I just think that just because a person doesn't like to unload on other people doesn't mean that keeping things bottled up is healthy, even for a fictional character going through the mother of all rough patches.
Anyway, nice day to you too.
I loved this arc. The excitement of reading the manga when it was being released, the wonderful way it was animated despite the flaws…But yes, it was too short.
I agree, I love this arc so much I wish it was longer :(
Feels like Asaratha missed his opportunity if he wanted to make content like this. Since the anime has changed the community's perception of this arc drastically.
Fr I’ve heard stories of so many people wanting/getting back into mha because of this arc alone
@@ThePickleMenace420 only to be disappointed by the recent arc lol
Idk what the anime did differently seeing as nothing was changed or added into a lot.
@@Dr._Atom what disappointment? These arcs were amazing.
@@jeffali5157
Yet people loved it
Perfect arc. Dekus style is sick. Stain coming full circle with all might was sick.
bro did not watch the video😭
Perfect how?😭, Bro’s vigilante arc lasted three days💀
@@Forit26it went on for a couple weeks at least dude
shigaraki went from needing 4 months of training to get afo's full power and by the end of this arc it was 2 or 3 days
@@Forit26 Naruto war arc lasted 2 days
@@Jerome7-v5u Yes but that arc didn’t HAVE to last long for it to have add to the plot, deku’s arc did
haven't read the manga but this entire season feels so rushed like every episode izuku learns a new one for all skill when up until this point they've drawn out his development. Everything feels so rushed and every character other than deku is sidelined, endeavors family drama is the only stuff I thought worked well at all. Fkn terrible
All of these complaints could easily be fixed if it was just longer, if it was longer it could have enough time for the kids to empathize their teachers deaths etc.
MHA fans jus ignore writing flaws and inconsistency in motive and literally how Deku hasnt earned shit to be so “powerful” cuz they enjoy how colorful it is or some bullshit
What are you talking about this arc was the best this series has even been since s3
Clickbait 😂😂😂
I Liked it, I watched through it and enjoyed the moments, Art and Character Changes. To each their own.
I didn’t. MHA felt like fast food served at a sit in restaurant and prefer to enjoy a savory homemade meal.
@@geigercourtier And you’re fair to have that opinion, I thought it was fun, it had flaws don’t get me wrong but I wasn’t really invested anyways so the problems didn’t matter to me since I just kinda watched it to watch something.
Totally disagree with you. I loved this arc and thought finally the story was back on track. Previous seasons and stories had started to bore me.
istg, when you look back at season 5 and see you could totaly skip half of it after Overhaul gets defeat WITHOUT LOSING ANY INFORMATION really shows how sidetracked the story was, 15 episodes for a fucking festival and the backstories of 2 irrelevant characters, good god, Chainsaw Man is 12 episodes and look at how much goes there in so little time
It became a faliure because of Class 1A's intervention
What sucks the most about this is that the majority of these issues could be fixed by at least ONE scene.
Characterizing Class 1-A? Show their response to Midnight's death, if you wanna get crafty maybe throw Aizawa and Present Mic in there too considering they were close with her. Potentially focusing on Kaminari and FINALLY giving him a little character beyond being a bit stupid.
Really, I think this arc would've been better had there just been more time into it. I personally enjoyed the arc, but there are definitely ways that it could be better
Can totally see where you're coming from. I love this arc, but I can have problems with it. I know I really wished we got to see Deku unlock smokescreen, Fa Jin, and then train with them in some way rather then just having a good enough hand on them. I also think it's too short, and would've loved to see Deku vs Class 1-a have 2 battles. The first being where Deku gets away from them, and the second being the first, heck, maybe Endeavor and the others try and stop him after round 1.
I like it to because for me now that I think about it deku never really faced any real psychological conflict true becoming the new all might was something he had to go through but I don’t really count that and I feel the Dark Hero Arc was Deku’s true Physiological conflict because he’s at the lowest of the low he abandons everyone even all might and in a way abandons the identity of Izuku Midoriya becoming a shell of the person he once was and even though it is for a good reason to see them all happy. So in also another way the Dark Hero Arc was Deku’s Daredevil season 3
@@mickwoodfield9980 👍🏼
The fact that most people enjoyed the season and are excited about the upcoming season says it all. The biggest haters of MHA are the manga readers who cannot digest the fact that this is a different medium with different strengths and weaknesses than manga. While the art style is almost impossible to match/improve, the music, voice acting and animation(in Deku vigilante arc) elevate the experience.
What are you talking about?!
We manga readers are complaining about the basic storytelling technique of build up=pay of and character consistency not the music, voice acting and animation (which are great)
If you don't care about good stories it's ok, but don't misunderstand us
@@kubomagico8853 I am talking about this season and not the latest war arc. Most people liked these arcs but some people were complaining about manga being better. The story becomes rushed and inconsistent in upcoming arcs partially due to author' s health and fandom.
@@shauryadeshwal7368 and so? Sure I felt bad for the author but that doesn't changed the fact a flaw is a flaw
@@naganut9718 If you read my comment again I am talking about Season 6 and not latest Manga chapters. I have no problem with people not liking the latest chapter but blindly hating it.
L take. This arc adaption was amazing.
Think the problem is that we're supposed to feel bad for Midoriya cause the plot told us to. WE didn't really see this dude soloing it for months with no rest against multiple villains, we see him fight 2 or 3 villains and now its a month and he is tired and depressed. So the struggle we see feels kinda empty as we are only really seeing the results of that struggle
Ngl I wish the anime changed the art up more.
Look at bleach TYBW, they got a new artstyle, red sky, made scenes more gray, black and white at times even all for the tone. And this which is meant to be the dark arc?
Bright blue sky
Mate, this is the anime where the training was “how about instead of focusing all power on one limb you...concentrate less AND spread it out?” and this BRILLIANT and NOT OBVIOUS realisation because the MC kept on BREAKING arms from punches.
Also: we literally have rewind healing atm in the story. No injuries matter. Aizawa couldn't even hold a flashback to her before cutting his own leg off.
We aren't even allowed to maybe be surprised for forgetting the ultra healing for a second.
Congrats, you’ve taken your first step into western comics where a guy just “needs to run faster” and heroes get out into healing comas all the time
Lmfao, he didn't have a flashback of Eri because of her "healing" he remembered Eri because if he died in the war, he would make Eri fall into depression like his friend did after he saved him and sacrificed himself.
Lmfao, there's no way some people think Aizawa had that flashback because of Eri's healing ability from her quirk 😂🙏
I personally do not agree but I understand the criticism but I liked this arc and I think it did a good job at developing the mha world and showing us how Japan is affected
I don't really care about watching this video, just wanted to comment since it popped up in my recommandations, I haven't been as hooked as I was during the Vigilante arc for a long, LONG while, and it felt really good, every single episode hit me very hard and I felt like every characters relevant to this arc finally went to the direction I wanted to. The Deku VS 2-A battle is probably one of my favourite episode of the whole show, and I cried so much during the Ochako speach haha
I'm especially glad because as someone who's more into the school focused arc (my favourite arcs being the tournament and the festival, while I have a hard time caring for some arcs like the Endeavor arc) I was a bit afraid going in that they would just forget that this show is called "My Hero Academia". It turned out becomming one of my favourite arc :)
I kinda wish UA-cam would stop recommanding me videos titled stuff like "why this is bad" everytime I watch or play something that I really like. It's really tiresome and frankly depressing at some point.
Do you see the 3 little white dots in the right corner of every video? If you click that its gonna show you a list of options and one of those options says "not interested" and when you click that, then yt will probably get the hint and stop recommending videos like that to you. Better yet! Click "do not recommend channel" and that'll do way more damage!
I dont know why people have such a hard time with this. Literally its probably the best option for everyone. I'm not complaining tho- its just more sweet views for my boy Asa!
I absolutely loved Dis Season
Personally I find it sad MHA is still being adapted into an anime whereas there are so many other mangas that truly deserve it instead.
It's not completely MHA's fault. MHA has over 400 chapters and the story has been dragged out for way too long. Honestly, MHA used to be peak but the series began to fall off when the war arc premiered. It honestly fell off when Stars And Stripes VS Shigaraki occured.
What do you recommend?
Interesting. I honestly loved it, there are faults but I was so hyped up by the end and loved how they handled things and can't wait to see what happens next. For me every episode made me excited for the next :P
I honestly need more people with your hype. Would love to discuss some MHA/anime related stuff.
And yeah, I loved this arc. Of course, a point I'd get would be the execution failing in some aspects, because honestly the idea (Deku leaving and his dark arc) was good and made sense.
Better stop here before I make a whole essay but yeah, I agree.
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@@clovercalloway Generally feel like you can nit pick anything (youtube kinda seems to push negativity and nit picking which is such a shame), we never really talk about how awesome things are and MHA is so awesome! :D
I have Discord, Idk if you can private message me on youtube but I love hearing people's opinions and gush about stuff we like :)
@@clovercalloway I sent you a friend DM :) It will have zebra in it
I’m satisfied sooooooooooooo ya😅
Listen buddy, as an MHA fan, ignore all the hate comments in this comment. I saw you're other replies to the other comments saying you defend MHA. Well listen, I don't mind if you criticize the Vigilante Deku Arc because I'm actually willing to accept any criticism about the show. Of course, there are people who can't take criticism. But I'm not one of them. I enjoyed this arc but my only problem with it that I wished they extended this arc a little bit further because I would've wanted to see Deku demolish Class 1a. But anyways, you're videos are awesome!!
while this season had its issues(i agree with most of ur points) i still think its easily the best. story issues aside it had alot of great moments. one of my favorite moments being ochacos speech(literally brought a tear to my eye) also about the whole dekus body being fine point the idea is that it was only harming his body becasue his body wasn't used to the OFA keep in mind all might was quirkless too so using logic his body had to have suffered when he overused it too right? only reason i can think of to be the case is that his body got used to ofa and ofa became his quirk rather then a borrowed power(thats what i concluded). the problem is how it was executed. other then that and some of what you alrealdy spoke about this season was pretty good.
also with ochacco being tired she just gave a big ass speech so making her tired seems reasonable
im sorry but i don't think that you could possible agree with and acknoledge all of his points and still think this arc is the best, without thinking the rest of the series is total dogshit
@@themcdonut9602 actually you can
@@themcdonut9602 agree might have been the wrong word more like understand? I agree with most though. this arc simply kept me interested the most and I finished it not satisfied but content. i enjoyed it.
even if.it has all these flaws I still enjoyed this season alot maybe it was because these aren't a big deal to me or maybe I just didn't notice them but I enjoyed this season more then all the others. plus as a anime only(now manga I started reading it) I have been excited for villginte deku for years.
season 2 was the best and my favorite before this. however after finishing this season I came out happy with what i watched. sure the season may not be perfect but I enjoyed it so for me it's the best. you can agree with others and still have ur own opinion
And you've hit my point in the head. Mha is officially riding on big, flashy, emotional MOMENTS because we love the story and characters build pre s4. Everything in between is empty, flat, and noncohesive
@@dflaming1371 can't tell of ur agreeing or not but I agree with this stayement
Unlike most people In these comments I agree. It's tiring for me, seeing so many previous plot points and character threads rushed or suddenly not cared about. It very much has me lose interest, and doesn't truly make the world feel real. It's sloppy and inconsistent for me. Still a fine arc I suppose, but basically everything you said is something I felt before this video even came out. This arc continued my falling off of mha. Yes, I'm caught up with the manga, no that stuff hasn't changed too much how I feel.
was a amazing arc, comes down to opinion👍
Wrong about the stakes part I feel like because all might had a stomach injury and he didn't die and deku's durability and his acclimation to one for all just went up at least that's how I see it I mean plenty of stories have lessened their stakes so bad to specific dragon ball but it never harmed their stakes long term and there is a lot more amalgamation of problems with dbz but still ppl love it
All your points are very good and make sense. I do resonate with the same ideas that Midoriya has let himself become a tool and lost a sense of introspection. The power progression is also wild, although it’s something that I kind of saw coming and don’t really mind too much. Definitely the most egregious issue for me was how the characters kind of felt disconnected from their environment to a degree after the war.
For me, the most heartbreaking part of this arc was that fact that Class 1a came right after Deku. Like the arc was so short, we only got to see a little bit of Dark Deku. Like seriously, the arc should have been longer, and this should have been used to develop Deku as a character. The last time Deku had development was like when? I think it was somewhere 3 seasons ago.
Though you may disagree with his points, at least agree that the reveal of OFA is rlly treated too lightly
I agree with most of your points. This arc felt weak and I couldn’t explain why other than it felt super rushed and not fleshed out. Thanks for breaking it down!
7:08 So glad you pointed this out! I was waiting for at least 1 scene where Hawks would have an internal struggle about the information. Because on the one hand, he's looked up to Endeavor since childhood because he arrested Hawk's abusive father. But on the other hand, he just learned that his hero had abused his own sons. How do you deal with that? I know they're both professionals, #1 and #2 in Japan after all, but working together now has to be a tense situation...
Damn. People still trying push mha down. This arc gave us a cool deku. And it was really just meant to be the precursor to the second war that's coming up
It was cool, yea, but once you get past aesthetics, what's the meaning behind this stuff, and why??? Therein lies the issue.
@@TheGloryXros this bro 👆👆👆
The aftermath of the Dabi reveal felt flat to me when i watched it for the first time, and at first i though it was because i already knew about Dabi thanks to spoilers but the real reason why i didnt really care is that no one in the show really cared.
I love Endeavor, it's easily my favourite part of MHA and one of the main reasons i haven't dropped the series yet, mabye it's me watching MHA in my 30s but watching the actual redemption arc of an adult that made all the wrong choices guided only by it's drive to be the best (wich is often the exclusively positive drive of MCs) really hits home, and his whole character arc is so dense. But then he's exposed nation wide, people in theyr home make some snarky comments during the war, and... nothing, everyone is cool with him now.
The war was good but in order to work it had to botch many characters and plot points, from Hawks (wich i also really liked but i though could've used a bit more time in the spotlight before and after the Twice incident) to the whole 1A class to goddamn Milio showing up outta nowhere in a way that made me seriously check multiple times if i skipped an episode or two...
idk...To me it felt like they were speed running this shit.
This arc was amazing and its funny that people already are jumping the gun to downplay it. Figures how MHA hate will never cease. This arc was not about those features, this arc was about creating more depth into midoryas character. Sure there was some missed elements that cannot ALL be covered. This isnt one piece, we dont have time to display all of the occurences. Stop downplaying an amazingly written arc by ignoring WHAT THIS ARC IS ABOUT
I dunno. What do YOU think this arc is about?
please name me two things that had further his past developments in that arc ( i love this arc but cmon). I'm not some pedantic or highly critical on every series i watch but surely you didn't feel that more was needed for this. abrupt and erratic timing with no development other than his ideal to safe everybody by just leaving them to not get hurt.
@@whochangemyname6977 Fleshing out MORE dekus character by showing how his greatest strength can also become his greatest weakness.
@@famousfox6318 This arc is to show that dekus main ideal, the very reason he was given One For All, was also his greatest weakness. This arc was also to show that he is still a human teen and how the responsibility of this power which he accepted with such earnest due to his "hero disorder" is not something that ONLY HE has to shoulder and how damaging on his body that responsibility is to shoulder. This arc also was to flesh out the parallels between the antagonists and also show the aftereffect of the previous arc.
It’s not ignoring what the arc is about, it’s more how it’s executed. Deku pretty much has everyone else talk no jutsu him and accomplish his OWN problems without his own introspective of it. He didn’t have any reflection on the consequences of going rogue or any reflection on his friendship with Bakugou and everyone else in the class. Everyone else talks about his own problems and acknowledge it except himself.
How are you supposed to properly change if YOU YOURSELF don’t recognize your negative mindset? After PLW the series is getting rushed, and it’s shown by stuff like SnS and the video points this out. If the arc was dedicated to adding more depth to Deku character, it executed in a very poorly matter. This video isn’t even hating on MHA, it’s just not being biased to the series and genuinely pointing at flaws in the writing after PLW.
I think the author should’ve taken an avatar approach, and have Deku unlock a master each of the six powers over the course of the seasons:
Season 1. One for all/full cowling
2. Danger sense
3. Smoke screen
4. Float
5. Black whip
6. Fa Jin
7. Gearshift
Honestly I don’t agree, though it was short it was waaaaay more interesting than the others Arcs and we start to see the true atmosphere of what is going on in MHA. Not only that but Dekus Classmates are growing with him now so it’s not just him trying to keep his All Might given power a secret anymore. I respectfully believe that this review undermines a lot of aspects in the Arc.
Alright, then elaborate. What makes this trashy arc so good? That whole point of "his classmates are growing now" is stupid, since all they do in the damn arc is reassure that deku is good, that he doesn't have to be all alone.
The damn arc does a bad job with class 1A, since we never actually get an original thought from them, all we get from them is their damn support for deku.
We never get any interesting pov moments from the class a characters. They've all got their own shit going on, so focus on that. But nope, it's all izuku this, izuku that, it's annoying.
And for the "true atmosphere of mha" wdym by that? Is it supposed to be some take on the society as a whole?
The hero commission being all corrupt is stupid, cuz if they wanted to do all that, then actually put some time into it, instead of just making a mention about it. Build it up. Shit just ended up being completely forgotten.
The biggest problem with the classmates is that they're just one big hivemind sharing a single damn braincell. They aren't seen as individuals in this thing, just extensions of the damn plot.
Real bad arc, worst arc of the series so far.
You have such strong, well thought-out, solid points it’s hard to disagree with you lol, and yet this show created such a complex story and history, however, the characters seem to skip exposition for the sake of nothing. Endeavor has literally done illegal things to his wife and kids, yet no one gave a shit. There’s absolutely no trauma or lingering trauma from other things, which takes away the potential depth this show could have. It’s fun it’s shonen, so it’s simple. What can ya do?
Finally, someone with a working brain in this comments section. Honestly, everyone's standards in story-telling is actually concerning, at this point. You can love a story but still say: "Hey, this story is still bad/could have been written better."
@@NA-ud6qm yeah, you can’t just write fucked up shit and have your characters forget about it lol
As an mha fans the huge issue is that it was way too safe and it went with the Disney power of friendship route like mha just wasted it’s worldbuilding heavily deku could’ve explored the world more and realise how chaotic everything has become with him losing his insanity
"Power of Friendship" is not Disney's trademark, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it if it's well-executed.
The fact that most people are commenting “ I don’t agree. I liked it cause you know cool fights and no boring dialogue” is what’s wrong with the fandom. Not saying you have to hate it but if you could look past literally everything good the author has done writing wise being erased for the story to rap up that’s just annoying lol. Listen I still overall enjoyed the arc I honestly don’t hate any of the arcs but at this point I just turn my brain off for these new chapters. I no longer think cause what’s their to think about? Still a fun series but it didn’t just have to be just “fun”.
I thought I was going crazy or something. He brings up decent points in the video and almost none of the top comments address them or even really acknowledge them. But I do understand just turning your brain off and liking cool fight scenes.
I was very satisfied tbh
I used stopped reading the manga before this Arc. I also watched a video before about the flaws of this arc as well, and I just lost interest after watching that and I was more disappointed when I watched this video. I mean, quirks and fight scenes are cool and all but there's also a lot that the author left out and missed to address. I was still thinking of continuing the manga, but I'll just drop it.
I think the entirety of act 3 of this series is being rushed. This arc is one of my favorites but it could have been the best if it wasn't limited to like 15 chapters. Characters should have had time to reflect on Dekus choice and not just be introduced when he needs to be saved. We should have seen more scenarios where deku is the only hero able to fight since Hawks got burned, Endeavor is traumatized, and other heroes are retiring left and right. I love this arc and what deku is in this arc. We just needed more time to let it all cook correctly
There are so many things that are subjective in this video that it's hard to take seriously
Thought it was just me its like some points ok but the tone was very nit picky
Some where and i agree with most of it, the biggest objective points are a. The lack of physical and societal consequences, as they just do not exist after all the buildup and b. The trashing of the background can't, mainly 1-a and a few select heroes. If none or most of them wereent shown post s5 it would not have change a single thing up til now
Yeah, it's basically a video of him saying: This is how I wanted season 6 to go.
Then, he portrays it as failures of the season rather than portraying it as a subjective opinion.
The whole video can be summarised into one point, which is that he wishes the series would flesh things out more, which is more of a preference than a failure.
What a goofy comment section. The very nature of critique videos is that they are subjective. There are no 'objective' critiques.
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Not fleshing out your story is a preference not a failure? That alone made me not take this comment seriously.
It was ok everything you mentioned is fair points but I casually read it and it was alright the only part of it I really liked was the choreography and fighting of the lady nagant fight but I didn’t notice any of the problems you mentioned in this video upon first reading
I am flabbergasted by all the comments saying this arc was acceptable. It was truly the worst season of MHA. It wasn’t even close to the impact of the earlier seasons. I think these commenters need to rewatch the anime. The war arc was fine, but all of what was good about it was undone by the dark hero arc. Completely ruined it for me.
Personally for me, Vigilante Deku was a good arc because it was the first step into Deku's character. People have always been complaining about how Deku is a crybaby and how his crying gets annoying. Now all of a sudden, when Deku goes out and changes his personality, and people switch up now saying Deku is one of the best new gen MC's. Seriously, people only like it when Deku suffers. It's like Spider-Man all over again. The writers love bullying him and they can never seem to give him a happy ending.
Also Season 6 was not the worst season of MHA since we literally got a bunch of cool moments from different characters during the War Arc. Besides, during the Dark Hero Arc, we literally got to see a different version of Deku which was awesome because it was about time, we finally had a different version of him. We also literally got two cool moments of him fighting with two different villains. It just needed more time to develop Deku as a character. Seriously though, this is literally the best version of Deku.
EAT A WHOLE P P 😒 THE WHOLE SEASON 6 WAS GREAT
Never watched a second of MHA but I’m here so I don’t make the same mistakes with my writing and creative projects
Nice :D
I am honestly surprised at the fact some comments are like "I agree it was short"...is that really what most people think? Just "short"? I remember when the manga went through the arc and everyone was throwing hands at each other because it not only was short, it also had the worst rushed closure for an arc that had SO much potential. Though I get it, by implying it was a short arc it lacked many things people would have liked to see but COME ON! My Hero Academia has the most toxic fandom and you expect me to believe they are calmly agreeing it was short??
I was there when all videos on this arc in the manga had a comment section full of hate. I was expecting a worse storm when the anime aired and surprisingly I haven't seen it blow up like it should have. It could also be that people who simply watch the anime don't care for plot and such...or left soon after this arc ended, can't judge them tho.
do you have any friend?
I wish you were the editor of the story.
That was why I fell off MHA. There weren't any consequences so I was just detached the entire time.
Why get emotionally invested if the stakes aren't legit?
If all I wanted was spectacle, I'd watch Dragon Ball Z or Super.
I found Deku really interesting from the beginning! I don't see where it's supposed to be that Deku has become less interesting and poorly developed! We must not forget that he is still a child! He doesn't have an easy life for a child!
Getting 6 new quirks and having his development come and go in around 20 chapters comes to mind
@@jeffali5157 kinda helps when said 6 quirks are pretty useless by themselves and aside from say Black Whip, the other quirks werent that hard to learn. Smokescreen, Danger Sense, Float, even Fa Jin and Gear Shift just needs readjustment since theyre just motions Deku has already done which were kinetic buildup shock and adjustment to speed
@@itsjustvin7630 float is the only one I would say in the grand scheme of things is pretty useless by itself, everything else has been helpful. He had a chance to be interesting but man was it underutilized. He isn’t bad, but man the way they did things for him isn’t ideal.
@@jeffali5157 like i said theyre useless by themselves. they hardly need mastering. hell danger sense and smokescreen doesnt really need mastering and fa jin and gear shift are motions deku is already used to
@@itsjustvin7630 fa Jin and gear shift did need some mastering even if the motions are familiar with what they could do. Though either way things got rushed so it wouldn’t have mattered if it needed mastering or not.
They kept calling him dark deku and he didn’t even do anything dark lol. We didn’t really get to see him progress that way.
I wanted him to ar least change after the experience and develop. Maybe he becomes gruffer, less enamored with being a hero or something but he just goes back to pre vigilante arc like nothing happened.
@@QuintonT exactly it makes you wonder what was even the point 🤷🏽♀️. Definitely a missed opportunity. This transition should have lasted longer than it did. Sad
Only the fans called him "dark deku"
@@DarkDoughnutsVids that’s what I’m saying the fans were calling him dark deku and hyping this arc up and he wasn’t really even doing anything dark and the arc kinda just was disappointing to me.
@@imtherealtammygonna6216 Isn't the arc literally called something along the lines of "Dark Hero?" What fucking hero anywhere in the entire story is even remotely "dark?" I don't really think you could make a case for Endeavor or Hawks because their actions are completely glossed over and apparently all Deku needed was a splash in a bath. MHA is genuinely amazing at set-ups but God awful at payoffs
Izuku Midoriya didn't fail as a character for me. Especially not in this arc
I would've liked it, if he either escaped from his friends the way he was intending to or actually fought them and showed them they genuinely can't keep up, cause fact is they cant. Deku is the only one that can 1v1 shigaraki and survive
but he did cool things 🥺
It’s so interesting how no one cared about Midnight’s death?
I was very sad but the series gave me very little time to care
The failure with it is the same failure with the manga at the moment, its too rushed and theres not enough build up. Everything going on makes sense , it just feels like its speeding through arcs that should have been their own seasons just to get to the end. Ffs, there still in their first year i believe, all this stuff should have been in like year 3 or 4.
3:34 Funnily enough, Native does not actually die to the Decay Wave. He actually gets killed by a Near High End after the fact (you can see the dog one nibbling on him during that fight), so Tomura's decay actually killed no named characters besides X-Less, who the anime confirms died before the wave even started.
Edit: Forgot about Crust, so just one character
This is an example of why you shouldn't give your villains lethal powers, unless your ready to kill off some of your cast members, so in a series where main characters and even side characters just CAN'T die under any circumstance it was pretty clear Shigaraki wasn't gonna do much, just look at Bakugo's "death", he got his heart destroyed by Shigaraki and then got revived two chapters later.
@@princevegeta6765 As a writer, I can understand the desire to want the characters you have created and love to stay alive, but you make a great point.
@@AlTariqLuqmanMuhammad Crust?!
@@princevegeta6765 that's why I tend to put sealing or such as a preferred alternative.
What about crust
I think it was the best arc we've had in my hero academia in the anime for ages, maybe ever, the way they made the show look felt perfect for the arc and set the mood really well. My problem with cour 1 of s6 and all of s5 was that it felt like something big was missing, whereas in the Manga it felt so much more horrific and serious, I think it could have been the use of bright color that made it feel like the horrific scenes were much less emotional. The vigilante arc fixed this problem with the art style and more muted colors.
The fact a movie is coming out to fill in the plot holes with this arc shows how bad it is
Vigilante Arc was raw I literally saw no issues with it
First half was raw but the second half was way too rushed and ended underwhelmingly when there were plans for a lot more and bringing Deku back to his old self and all ok really wasn’t ideal especially after everything he went through and what happens later on really makes it all the more baffling on how this got rushed thanks to the bad editor among other things
Facts
Did you watch the video or comment before watching it
maybe watch the video still
@@jeffali5157 the manga itself is kinda being rushed, because its reaching the end of mha
i think none of these things where planned ahead of time and thats why its being rushed, next season is gonna bbe rushed too so prepare for tht..
My only gripe, like many others here, is that the “Dark Hero” Arc was just incredibly short. It could’ve been longer showing more and more of Deku’s mental state deteriorating and how everyone around him is slowly but progressively changing in terms of worrying about him and wanting to help him. I also would’ve liked him to lean more into becoming Villainous because of how drastically he is changing mentally and physically. Not only did he get a pretty badass Dark Deku design, but they really could’ve leaned more into that where like the overuse of his powers gave him different colored eyes and even have the electricity crackling off him a different color too. And maybe even have some of the Pro-Heroes really look at Deku like he’s a Vigilante considering that’s basically what he was. And maybe have Deku bring a villain he is chasing close to the brink of death being bloodied and battered with other heroes looking to him like he could be a Villain.
There was so much the Dark Hero Arc could’ve done but didn’t and it sucks considering we are way past that now.
Unfortunately I agree with you that I think Horikoshi is rushing the ending. But from what I understand MHA has been a much longer anime than he initially intended. But I agree... I feel like we could have had a few more years / seasons of Deku developing and learning his other quirks.
But I wonder if it's because of how Mangakas are treated and that they have absolutely no time to just relax... they are always forced to pump out manga after manga... mental health be damned... so I wonder if he's just tired and trying to finish it as soon as possible... coz even Star and Stripe felt rushed to me.
And I agree about the lack of consequences in that more people should have died. Gran Torino and at least one person of Class 1A. Also I hate how quick Mirio got his powers back... all rushed.
Also I agree with Horikoshi not just overlooking trauma... however I feel like there is time for that after the War. That when this is all finished they talk about the death they have seen and the collective trauma everyone has experienced. But we will see... I hope he doesn't fumble the ball... but saying that I enjoyed season 6... especially compared with season 5.
"mha has been a much longer anime than initially intended'' idk....8 seasons just ain't enough. With the amount of aspects and characters the story presents just to chicken out of. It really should've been longer. I get Hori's mental health but why couldn't he just take a break?
@@sunsetoverdrive2when321 I agree... there was so much wasted potential. And I understand Horikoshi intended for it to be a shorter manga than it was. But it really could have developed so much better given proper time. But yea I guess that's the trouble of the pressures or such a successful manga. Mangakas are not really given much time to do anything but make the big machines money.
@@dablackangel Well that's a damn shame. Quality > Quantity needs to be a new strike movement fr
Finally someone said he’s not a vigilante.
Well he wasn’t dark Deku either I’ll tell you that
I mean he wasn't supposed to be.
I still love it🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know a lot of people in the comment section say they like this arc and that's fine... but I'm sorry. A "vigilante arc" where said vigilante is only one for about a week before getting friendship speeched for several chapters in a row back to being a hero is kind of lame. I've seen other series do it way better. Spoilers for Tower of God but when Bam became somewhat of a vigilante, it took his team several arcs to get him back, we followed him and how he learned to open up to people again, and uncovered an entire organization and their dynamics with the power system of the tower. I wouldn't even call Deku's little emo dabble an actual vigilante arc. It was a few chapters of him running away from home.
Honestly i think if they fully jumped in and had deku fully fall to despair and give it all up to do what he feels like a has to that could be oretty good. Riding the line and not commiting to anything makes it extra weak.
Mha's biggest problem is that hori set up so many plotlines and events that could go so far and explore so much, and then he just pulls the rug and says "nah, anyway here's mirkos azz for the millionth time".
Then it gets to such a large scale of well this is happening now because ain't cool? Does it matter, did it add? No, but wasn't it cool?
Looking at you stars and stripes and the bubble.
Also i like her design for 2 obious reasons but what was the point of nagant? Isn't the commission already dead? And why was overhaul just getting pulled along while being made to look like a wimp?