Finished installing front and rear shocks on 19 RG last night and just returned from 100+ mile test ride. The difference between stock and Wilbers is incredible. These bikes should come from factory this way. After failing at getting the nut on front shock installed 3 times (and some choice words) I went back to his video and noticed he turns the shock while holding the nut/rachet steady. This helped with getting the nut aligned and catch the threads properly. I was able to get the nut installed first try after using this method for both shocks. Vielen Dank für deine Videos, Stefan. Cheers!
Have had my Wilbers now for a few weeks OMG what a difference this has made to my HD Ultra it handles like its on rails and so smooth. Thanks Wilbers, Stefan & Matt Laidlaw for pointing this fantastic suspension my way.
Ordered a set and it is on its way here. You make it look so easy Stefan but, I sure wish you were here when they come in and wanted to do another install, I would feel so much better about it. Thanks for all your video's!
Congratulations Mark, you will love it! If your installer doesn’t have the time to watch my Videos, just give him the basics. Fork spring orientation, direction of the rear shocks and 20mm rider sag with you on the bike.
Bonjour Marc, is it the new 2023 CVO with the 121 engine? There is nothing available yet, my own new CVO RG will be picked up by Wilbers on October 30th, to be the prototype for the new suspension. Comparing it with the old one (with Wilbers), I have to say, FL4 suspension is better than FL3, but no match for Wilbers. Follow me on instagram, I will post the progress.
Very good video. I just bought a 2016 Road Glide Ultra and will be installing the Wilbers system soon. Regards from Memphis, Tennessee, or as Elvis would say; "Thank you, Thank you very much."
Hey Stefan, another great install video this time from your tent! Lol 😂 According to @TravellingTall there is only one real Glide and it is the Street Glide! Hahaha
@stefan thanks for the install today @europeanbikeweek Faakersee2023.... You where wright, its a huge difference in a possitive way. Whe are happy with the Wilbers nivomat suspension 😋
I just ordered a set of front spring and oil. I have Legends rear for now. This installation instructions look very easy. I hate the factory suspension. Can’t wait to install the front and test it out!
Hi Stefan I’m a big fan of your channel and love seeing your videos. If your ever in Ohio please contact me I would love to do a video with you. I own a street glide ST 2023 and wanted to do Wilber shocks on it and would love to do a installation with you and I know your busy so maybe a zoom video installation or FaceTime installation. Thank you again and keep up the great work Buddy.
I installed this suspension this weekend….all was going well until I got to the rear suspension. Because it’s longer, the axle cam adjuster is butted up against my right muffler. I am running 4.5” Krome Werks. I played with the muffler adjustment but did not work.
We don't have this muffler variety here in Europe, the are all illegal and the authorities enforce it. You could loosen all (🙁) exhaust bolts and try to rearrange the exhaust. I know Robert is running 4.5 TAB on one of his bikes. Try to lower the bike, install the lower shock mounting bolts first, then the upper. The bike should have at least 1cm (1/5 in) sag without the rider, that should clear the muffler.
Check out Million Dollar Bogans CVO Road Glide built ua-cam.com/video/JyLDn6geTS8/v-deo.html (review of the ride quality) and his South America trip ua-cam.com/video/46EdP7Kq9vE/v-deo.html That should do it...😉
Thanks for another installation video....I'm wondering how the front suspension would fare on a big tire bagger example 26"....with stock forks with fork extensions from the raked tree's would be interesting.
I just started watching all the videos you are involved in do you ever visit Arizona ? Or have a brand ambassador in Arizona I have been talking to all my friends about the Wilber’s products I have a 23 road glide st my son has a 23 street glide st and my friends all have two many similar variations to mention lol
Hi Scott, unfortunately PHX is not in my flight schedule yet. Hopefully one day it will, I have a lot of good memories of my initial flight training in GYR
Stefan, nice video, I had the Wilbers full system installed on my 2017 Ultra lImited, I'm not sure the front system was installed correctly. Could you recommend someone in the states (I live in South Carolina) that could check the front suspension for me? I love the rear Wilbers setup.
SoCal? Very nice! I have just returned from San Diego on Friday. I can recommend the techs at Laidlaws HD. Most of them are running Wilbers Nivomat, or at least the front on their Touring bikes.
I don’t know anybody in that area, but i have a quick install guide for professional, so every tech will be able to do it. Just email me and I’ll send it. info@stefans-garage.com
@@tll39564 unfortunately outside the Lufthansa Munich network, although airforce museum sounds tempting 😉 Make sure they set the forkoil level properly and the rider sag in the rear
Hi Stefan, I bought the Wilber’s Nivomat for my 2014 Harley CVO Road King. I know that they are setup for my weight and my passenger weight and luggage’s weight . My question is what happens if I carry a passenger that weight a lot more than my usual passenger, I’m talking about 40 kilos or more. Thank you very much
The shocks are preset to the provided rider weight. Due to manufacturing tolerances of any spring, the fine tuning needs to be made during the install (20mm rider sag with owner), everything else is taken care of by the Nivomat. So don’t worry about changing passenger weights, of course you have to observe the maximum load published by Harley 😉
Stefan, i was watching the comparison video blockhead did on this setup vs stock. @RoadieWingZZ made an observation regarding the unbalanced load. Could you be able to clarify and explain?
@@stefansgarage3014 "So right off the bat, the Wilbers is a 13” shock which will inherently provide an improvement over the 12” on the stock. Even a RG Ultra with the stock 13” shock rides waaaay better than a RG or RG Special. The fix for the harsh ride is always the sag of 3/4” to 1” (or 33% of total travel) to put the bike in a suspended neutral position. The negative aspect of the Wilbers would be the unbalanced nature of the Nivomat only being on one side for a rubber mounted swing arm assembly which means forces are not balanced on both sides. This is deemed a critical negative aspect of the HD stock shocks by suspension aficionados so is a relevant issue and concern on the Wilbers."
Ok, now I remember. The problem of the Harley stock suspension is not the asymmetric design, but the poor standard of the components. The problem of the unbalanced design of the Wilbers is only in theory, I would guess 99.99% of all Harley riders (including me) won’t be able to notice a difference. What you do notice is a significant better ride quality (I did several conversions of bikes that already had aftermarket shocks) and no issues in dialing in the correct preload and damping for different loads.
Servus Achim, ab Sommer/Herbst 2023 wird es das Nivomat Fahrwerk auch für M8 Softails geben. Low Rider ST ist ganz vorne mit dabei, Benny Wilbers hatte sich eine El Diablo gekauft😉
@@stefansgarage3014 vielen dank für die schnelle rückantwort!! mit den stock dämpfern von hd bekomme ich leider rückenschmerzen (hatte mal einen Bandscheibenvorfall) Ich hoffen dass es mit den silbers dämpfern nicht so ist👍 grüße aus muc🍺🥨
Servus Stefan, selbstverständlich gibts das auch für die Batwings. Für die Street Glide Special hab ich sogar ein eigenes Video mit einer 2015 oder 16, genau wie deine. Schreib mich bitte unter info@stefans-garage.com an, dann können wir Details besprechen.
Thanks for another informative video Stefan . I recently had the Wilbers fork springs and shocks installed on my 23 road king special by your Pals in New Jersey.. Question: When considering riders weight sitting on bike , ideally wearing usual gear to adjust the spring shock, why is it not necessary to also consider the weight that is being carried in the saddle bags for daily rides ? For example for daily rides i always carry tools along with some odds and ends which approximately add up to about 15 lbs or so.
Hi Stephen, it’s basically not as rocket sciency as it sounds. I’m normally aiming for 20mm, knowing that the right saddlebag is missing and maybe some clothes/gear. So in the lightest condition it achieves the 20mm, with some gear it’s 22-23, which is just within the sweetspot to work perfectly.
@@GTI631 Unfortunately that island is too long (for my JFK layover). Just head across the Verrazzano bridge and you are almost at the shop of the US importer, they offer very good install rates.
@@GTI631 you don’t want to wait that long with the upgrade, seriously. I had a customer, who literally wasted two riding seasons AND waited for two price adjustments
Finished installing front and rear shocks on 19 RG last night and just returned from 100+ mile test ride. The difference between stock and Wilbers is incredible. These bikes should come from factory this way. After failing at getting the nut on front shock installed 3 times (and some choice words) I went back to his video and noticed he turns the shock while holding the nut/rachet steady. This helped with getting the nut aligned and catch the threads properly. I was able to get the nut installed first try after using this method for both shocks. Vielen Dank für deine Videos, Stefan. Cheers!
Sehr gerne! Enjoy your NEW RIDE!
Have had my Wilbers now for a few weeks OMG what a difference this has made to my HD Ultra it handles like its on rails and so smooth. Thanks Wilbers, Stefan & Matt Laidlaw for pointing this fantastic suspension my way.
You are very welcome…😇
Glad to see you making a new video ! It has been a minute .
Thanks, I was running out of topics and had bad days with some footage 😉
The Professor nails another one. 👍
Ordered a set and it is on its way here. You make it look so easy Stefan but, I sure wish you were here when they come in and wanted to do another install, I would feel so much better about it.
Thanks for all your video's!
Congratulations Mark, you will love it! If your installer doesn’t have the time to watch my Videos, just give him the basics. Fork spring orientation, direction of the rear shocks and 20mm rider sag with you on the bike.
Awesome video. Looking forward to mine arriving. This video gives me the confidence to do it myself.
That’s the purpose of this video. It’s not rocket science, if you have some experience and know what to expect. Enjoy your completely new Harley.
Thanks Stefan, the most clear video on Wilbers installation…It’s a pity that you’re not in France, I would have to give you my new CVO to install it🙏
Bonjour Marc, is it the new 2023 CVO with the 121 engine? There is nothing available yet, my own new CVO RG will be picked up by Wilbers on October 30th, to be the prototype for the new suspension. Comparing it with the old one (with Wilbers), I have to say, FL4 suspension is better than FL3, but no match for Wilbers. Follow me on instagram, I will post the progress.
Thanks for great video. cheers.
Your welcome, thank You
Very good video. I just bought a 2016 Road Glide Ultra and will be installing the Wilbers system soon. Regards from Memphis, Tennessee, or as Elvis would say; "Thank you, Thank you very much."
Elvis used to be „all shook up“ before he installed his Wilbers…👍🏻
Great videos! I’m about to install mine on my 17 road glide.
You will love it! Night and day difference.
Very informative and thorough video Stephan. Perhaps I’ll recognize your voice over the Atlantic on one of my trips one day! Well done (wel den)!
Thanks, what callsign should I listen to on 123.45?
Westjet Flight numbers…
Always maintaining a listening watch!
BTW Stephan, what beauty your CVO is!
@@dewainkozak7360 I will listen as well, thanks.
Hey Stefan, another great install video this time from your tent! Lol 😂
According to @TravellingTall there is only one real Glide and it is the Street Glide! Hahaha
Hi Adi, Glide? Not with stock suspension…
@stefan thanks for the install today @europeanbikeweek Faakersee2023.... You where wright, its a huge difference in a possitive way. Whe are happy with the Wilbers nivomat suspension 😋
Hi Tony, it was a pleasure to work on your beautiful bike and to get to know you and your wife. Safe travels, see You in the future.
@@stefansgarage3014 like I told you, you have my phonenumber 😉👊
Thanks Stefan for the informative demonstration
You’re very welcome
I just ordered a set of front spring and oil. I have Legends rear for now. This installation instructions look very easy. I hate the factory suspension. Can’t wait to install the front and test it out!
You will love it. With other brand rears it will not be perfect, but definitely a huge upgrade compared to stock.
Hi Stefan I’m a big fan of your channel and love seeing your videos. If your ever in Ohio please contact me I would love to do a video with you. I own a street glide ST 2023 and wanted to do Wilber shocks on it and would love to do a installation with you and I know your busy so maybe a zoom video installation or FaceTime installation. Thank you again and keep up the great work Buddy.
Thank you very much!
Let’s exchange details, and we will figure something out. Contact me please on info@stefans-garage.com
Very good to meat you
I installed this suspension this weekend….all was going well until I got to the rear suspension. Because it’s longer, the axle cam adjuster is butted up against my right muffler. I am running 4.5” Krome Werks. I played with the muffler adjustment but did not work.
We don't have this muffler variety here in Europe, the are all illegal and the authorities enforce it. You could loosen all (🙁) exhaust bolts and try to rearrange the exhaust. I know Robert is running 4.5 TAB on one of his bikes. Try to lower the bike, install the lower shock mounting bolts first, then the upper. The bike should have at least 1cm (1/5 in) sag without the rider, that should clear the muffler.
The product looks good and I see great reviews, I just have to justify the large costs.
Check out Million Dollar Bogans CVO Road Glide built ua-cam.com/video/JyLDn6geTS8/v-deo.html (review of the ride quality) and his South America trip ua-cam.com/video/46EdP7Kq9vE/v-deo.html
That should do it...😉
Thanks for another installation video....I'm wondering how the front suspension would fare on a big tire bagger example 26"....with stock forks with fork extensions from the raked tree's would be interesting.
Very difficult to tell as those rake kits often change the interior of the fork and that has an effect on spring preload.
I just started watching all the videos you are involved in do you ever visit Arizona ? Or have a brand ambassador in Arizona I have been talking to all my friends about the Wilber’s products I have a 23 road glide st my son has a 23 street glide st and my friends all have two many similar variations to mention lol
Hi Scott, unfortunately PHX is not in my flight schedule yet. Hopefully one day it will, I have a lot of good memories of my initial flight training in GYR
Stefan, nice video, I had the Wilbers full system installed on my 2017 Ultra lImited, I'm not sure the front system was installed correctly. Could you recommend someone in the states (I live in South Carolina) that could check the front suspension for me? I love the rear Wilbers setup.
SoCal? Very nice! I have just returned from San Diego on Friday.
I can recommend the techs at Laidlaws HD. Most of them are running Wilbers Nivomat, or at least the front on their Touring bikes.
Nicely done 👍 How often is the recommendation to change the fork oil? I am Loving my Wilbers front end!
Cheers
Hi Michael, Wilbers recommends to change the oil every three years. I would recommend to do it depending on the mileage as well.
@Stefan's Garage thank you. Be well
Who would you recommend in St. Louis, MO to do the install ? Thanks
I don’t know anybody in that area, but i have a quick install guide for professional, so every tech will be able to do it. Just email me and I’ll send it.
info@stefans-garage.com
What should I use to clean out front forks before adding Wilbers fork oil?
First I just let it drain, now I use some brakecleaner and thereafter let it drain
Thank you for the video Stefan! I just ordered mine for my 22 Road Glide Special. How soon could you be here to install them? lol!
Depends on where you live…
@@stefansgarage3014 Dayton Ohio. Home of the Air Force museum.
@@tll39564 unfortunately outside the Lufthansa Munich network, although airforce museum sounds tempting 😉
Make sure they set the forkoil level properly and the rider sag in the rear
@@stefansgarage3014 I sure will.
Hi Stefan,
I bought the Wilber’s Nivomat for my 2014 Harley CVO Road King.
I know that they are setup for my weight and my passenger weight and luggage’s weight .
My question is what happens if I carry a passenger that weight a lot more than my usual passenger, I’m talking about 40 kilos or more.
Thank you very much
The shocks are preset to the provided rider weight. Due to manufacturing tolerances of any spring, the fine tuning needs to be made during the install (20mm rider sag with owner), everything else is taken care of by the Nivomat. So don’t worry about changing passenger weights, of course you have to observe the maximum load published by Harley 😉
Thanks for the fast reply . Have a great day @@stefansgarage3014
moin, Steffen... - gut erholt von MDB ?
Da gab’s nichts zu erholen…😉
Geht munter weiter mit anderen dieses Jahr, werde auf meinem Kanal berichten.
Stefan, i was watching the comparison video blockhead did on this setup vs stock. @RoadieWingZZ made an observation regarding the unbalanced load. Could you be able to clarify and explain?
Sorry, I don’t know the exact observation.
@@stefansgarage3014 "So right off the bat, the Wilbers is a 13” shock which will inherently provide an improvement over the 12” on the stock. Even a RG Ultra with the stock 13” shock rides waaaay better than a RG or RG Special. The fix for the harsh ride is always the sag of 3/4” to 1” (or 33% of total travel) to put the bike in a suspended neutral position. The negative aspect of the Wilbers would be the unbalanced nature of the Nivomat only being on one side for a rubber mounted swing arm assembly which means forces are not balanced on both sides. This is deemed a critical negative aspect of the HD stock shocks by suspension aficionados so is a relevant issue and concern on the Wilbers."
Ok, now I remember. The problem of the Harley stock suspension is not the asymmetric design, but the poor standard of the components. The problem of the unbalanced design of the Wilbers is only in theory, I would guess 99.99% of all Harley riders (including me) won’t be able to notice a difference. What you do notice is a significant better ride quality (I did several conversions of bikes that already had aftermarket shocks) and no issues in dialing in the correct preload and damping for different loads.
@@stefansgarage3014 Thank you sir for your information
schönes video 👍
gibt es die dämpfer auch für die low rider st?
grüße aus muc 🍺🥨
Servus Achim, ab Sommer/Herbst 2023 wird es das Nivomat Fahrwerk auch für M8 Softails geben. Low Rider ST ist ganz vorne mit dabei, Benny Wilbers hatte sich eine El Diablo gekauft😉
@@stefansgarage3014 vielen dank für die schnelle rückantwort!!
mit den stock dämpfern von hd bekomme ich leider rückenschmerzen (hatte mal einen Bandscheibenvorfall)
Ich hoffen dass es mit den silbers dämpfern nicht so ist👍
grüße aus muc🍺🥨
@@achim9145 Schreib mich mal unter info @stefans-garage.com an, dann können wir Details besprechen
Sorry info@stefans-garage.com
Stefan bekomme ich auch für meine Street glide 2016 und was muss man hin legen ? Gruß Stefan
Servus Stefan, selbstverständlich gibts das auch für die Batwings. Für die Street Glide Special hab ich sogar ein eigenes Video mit einer 2015 oder 16, genau wie deine. Schreib mich bitte unter info@stefans-garage.com an, dann können wir Details besprechen.
Thanks for another informative video Stefan . I recently had the Wilbers fork springs and shocks installed on my 23 road king special by your Pals in New Jersey.. Question: When considering riders weight sitting on bike , ideally wearing usual gear to adjust the spring shock, why is it not necessary to also consider the weight that is being carried in the saddle bags for daily rides ? For example for daily rides i always carry tools along with some odds and ends which approximately add up to about 15 lbs or so.
hi there - it should be considered accordingly, i.e., on the basis of the average load in saddle bags.... who has told you it should not ?
Hi Stephen, it’s basically not as rocket sciency as it sounds. I’m normally aiming for 20mm, knowing that the right saddlebag is missing and maybe some clothes/gear. So in the lightest condition it achieves the 20mm, with some gear it’s 22-23, which is just within the sweetspot to work perfectly.
@CAMOUFLAGE no one has told me anything, that's why I'm asking Stefan my all-knowing Wilbers guru .
Thank you for the informative video. Do you think that these would be good on a road glide st? I’m contemplating on purchasing these
Definitely, I've already installed them on three SG STs and one RG ST. This week two additional RG STs will follow. Are You in the US?
@@stefansgarage3014 yes I am, Long Island New York
@@GTI631 Unfortunately that island is too long (for my JFK layover). Just head across the Verrazzano bridge and you are almost at the shop of the US importer, they offer very good install rates.
@@stefansgarage3014 Gotcha. Well if you ever change your mind or have a longer layover let me know
@@GTI631 you don’t want to wait that long with the upgrade, seriously. I had a customer, who literally wasted two riding seasons AND waited for two price adjustments
👍🏍️😊👍👍🖖🏍️
Ach ja Stefan ... 😅
Und wer hätte es gedacht, nachdem ich jetzt auch RGS Owner bin 😅 .... brauchts a Wilbers da nei