+Minako The Randomer Eh. Junko is dumb and she's definitely much harder then Clownpiece. I've barely played LoLK, but that much I can confirm. Her patterns are either pixel-perfect bullshit or RNG storms. It's just a terribly designed fight in general and probably the worst final boss in the series... On lunatic, anyway. And even outside of it... over half her attacks are her firing blue circles of fire bullets. Really, ZUN? I know you wanted it to be simple but that's just dumb.
Braviaggron Doesn't make it good as an actual thing you play, even if it's justified in-story. If she TRULY wanted to kill you she'd spam lasers to wall you in then fire bubbles at lightning speed or something similarly dumb. ZUN tried to make the patterns simple, instead he just made most of them bad.
Talos Mistake Actually Clownpiece doesn't change at Lunatic at all except for first survival. If you will only bomb her that one spell, the entire thing is possible. Yes, this fight is that much broken.
Popcioslav - Why everyone thinking battle with Clownpiece is very easy .... I've collected 8 lives .... until I saw her ... and lost to her with 4 *credits*
Hecatia Lapislazuli I never said it's easy~ Believe, I got stuck on her on Easy for so long. Problem with her fight is the fact it's broken and you have to think outside of the box to clear it. Once you do that, you pretty much passed 3 of her spells on any difficulty. Other should be bombed because there's no way to capture them on any character. Also play any other difficulty, despite some of her sepllcards being more cheap *NOTHING CHANGES*.
rin satutashi Clownpiece isn't a lunarian though -.- She is a fairy of hell that Hecatia brought to the moon and Junko changed her into pure life force. Or something like this. Also if she doesn't know rules of them so why Sagume follows those rules perfectly, huh?
The first native Lunarian not to be a total Moonbitch or a Villain Sue! When I say native, I mean one who still lives on the Moon (so Kaguya and Eirin don't count), btw.
Not exactly, rather i believe it’s the other way around. As in Sagume created the Lunar Capital ball, which was the reason for rumors and urban legends manifesting. She supposedly did this so the lunar capital could be relocated to Gensokyo if the worst case scenario happened with Junko’s siege
Full version has so many amazing music pieces~ If you would measure this game by it's music, dialogue, characters and main characters only, this would be the best Touhou game made yet. This theme surprised me, at first I thought it was pretty interesting, mostly because of the melody, I would have expected something like this from boss 5, not stage 4 honestly. It also does fits our God/Amajoku figure that World hates pretty well. Seriously, she has to have so hard time in life when everything she says turns out to be a lie over time.
Hecatia Lapislazuli It's explained in her profiles. World literally hates her as a goddess and this is why anything she says turns out to be a lie. Yes I know Wiki states so, but oly day passed I don't expect people to have perfect translation skills. Also it's explained in story and dialogues as well.
Popcioslav - But the characters are mostly uninteresting! Sagume is one of the exceptions. I can't read Japanese so can't say anything about the dialogue, main characters are same as they've ever been. As for music, I actually really like this soundtrack, but this is one of the two I don't think is good. I don't feel like it has any emotion to it, nor is it particularly memorable. Very generic sounding.
Relick You think so? I think we have actually best Touhou cast so far. Junko, Hekatia and Clownface, while uninteresting at first, they are most ingenious characters, Kind of like Seija was.
The Guy Except there is a chance that exrumia could be canon just not how shes seen in the fandom tho. That and the matter of the bloody ribbon she had is so dam fishy. But I do agree there would be a war but like any fandom there is also going 2 be wars about stuff like that.
Great Weiss ZUN tends to stop caring about the less important characters of his early games. The more recent the games are, the more he likes them. I think it's probably the end of Rumia, Mystia, Wriggle, Bucket-Chan, Parsee, Spider-chan, the Aki Sister and obviously Flandre's character development arcs.
Magus Paintbrush Really no, her power is not so OP, she can't change facts that qere already established , she can only turn around events that are happening in the actual time and haven't been release
Okay, let me try to describe Sagume for you… Her entire power is the ability to “reverse a situation with her words”. This is basically a complicated way of saying that, if she talks about something with a chance of occurring, she jinxes it. This boss battle is her testing the main character to see if the MC could potentially stand against the final boss. Once you beat her, and she’s convinced you could stand a chance, she chooses her words very carefully to tip the odds in your favor, then sends you in the direction of the true enemy.
Sagume Sa"GUM" Sa"GUMI" Sagume is a bubblegum? dafuq? ZUN, stop try we always know the meaning of your char names. (GFG) oh and btw "GUMI" Gumi Megpoid. gg Sagume is Gumi Megpoid? o_o Sagume/Gumi confirmed
Am I the only one here to think there's actually kinda some connection between Sagume and Seija? I mean, Sagume can make the situation to become opposite of what she says, and Seija can flip anything over. Hmmmm.......
Sagume is based upon the Shinto deity Amenosagume, an advisor of the kami Amewakahito who inadvertently caused his death when she misidentified a pheasant sent by Amaterasu as an ill omen and adviced him to shoot it dead... the arrow Amewakahito shot at the pheasant fatally hit him in the chest when it fell back unto the ground... Amenosagume, along with the Tengu god Amanozako, is believed to have been the inspiration for Amanojaku.
![[東方Arrange] The Reversed Wheel of fortune :【⤴Reversed Fate Remix⤵】](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9gJvFZajEa8/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Len'en Arrange] Present World Dance Engine](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tKHn1o4Qyjo/mqdefault.jpg)
Sagume: The reversed wheel of fortune
Hina: The wheel of misfortune
Tenshi: The actual wheel of fortune
Yukari: Boundary of misfortune and fortune
Yachie's theme: fortune and misfortune
S.H.i.T.Y.-
Seija: The reversed
Tewi : white rabbit of great fortunes
Mike's theme: kitten of great fortune
Her and Seija are going to sit down, have a nice talk about who's who and what's what...
Meanwhile seiga eavedrops
"you will not be ran over the balls in 5 days"
PointDevice Mode Lunatic No Retries No Bombs?
See that figure over there? It's Clownpiece laughing maniacally.
ZUN really has a thing for BOSSES with S.K.
Sanae Kochiya
Satori Komeiji
Seiga Kaku
Seija Kijin
Sagume Kishin
Saki Kurokoma
Sannyo Komakusa
Seiga Kaku
Seiga Kijin
Seija Kijin
Sagume Kijin
Sagume Kishin
Zun pls.
+Lol K Touhou 16 Stage 4 boss: "Sakume Kijan"
Sageiga Kakisjin
Saki kurokoma
S K
Is this some kind of joke that doesn't work if it's romanized?
PointDevice Mode Lunatic No Retries No Bombs?
Kishin says that it is definitely possible.
Sagume is easily my favourite character from the new lot from LoLK.
Junko is alright, I like her more than Clownpiece and Hecatia, and her theme is pretty good too.
I've heard she's quite a bit easier than Clownpiece.
I see, I've not had chance to play LoLK yet...
+Minako The Randomer Eh. Junko is dumb and she's definitely much harder then Clownpiece. I've barely played LoLK, but that much I can confirm.
Her patterns are either pixel-perfect bullshit or RNG storms. It's just a terribly designed fight in general and probably the worst final boss in the series...
On lunatic, anyway.
And even outside of it... over half her attacks are her firing blue circles of fire bullets. Really, ZUN? I know you wanted it to be simple but that's just dumb.
Braviaggron
Doesn't make it good as an actual thing you play, even if it's justified in-story.
If she TRULY wanted to kill you she'd spam lasers to wall you in then fire bubbles at lightning speed or something similarly dumb.
ZUN tried to make the patterns simple, instead he just made most of them bad.
"There will be many dislikes " - Sagume chan being nice
the one winged angel of death.
If you listen closely, you will hear the Theme of Eastern Story played very quickly at the end of Sagume's theme.
Oh hey it's the reversed wheel of fortune tarot card. And it's alive. And shooting bullet hell on us.
"PointDevice Mode Lunatic No Retries No Bombs "
If this is Sagume that says, then it will never see the existence...
Sagume is very cute.
Her smile must be easier to shoot out my heart than the rifle-shot!
Unless if she says you won't be shot through the heart
PointDevice Mode Lunatic No Retries No Bombs ?
Clownpiece don't approve.
Talos Mistake Actually Clownpiece doesn't change at Lunatic at all except for first survival.
If you will only bomb her that one spell, the entire thing is possible.
Yes, this fight is that much broken.
Popcioslav - Why everyone thinking battle with Clownpiece is very easy ....
I've collected 8 lives .... until I saw her ...
and lost to her with 4 *credits*
Hecatia Lapislazuli I never said it's easy~
Believe, I got stuck on her on Easy for so long. Problem with her fight is the fact it's broken and you have to think outside of the box to clear it.
Once you do that, you pretty much passed 3 of her spells on any difficulty. Other should be bombed because there's no way to capture them on any character. Also play any other difficulty, despite some of her sepllcards being more cheap *NOTHING CHANGES*.
Popcioslav - lets just say, lunarians dont know the spell card rules
rin satutashi Clownpiece isn't a lunarian though -.-
She is a fairy of hell that Hecatia brought to the moon and Junko changed her into pure life force. Or something like this.
Also if she doesn't know rules of them so why Sagume follows those rules perfectly, huh?
หัวใจ 3 ดวงหมดไปกับเจ้านี่-_-
Almost sounds like Pandemonic Planet
Technically pandemonic planet sounds like this
The first native Lunarian not to be a total Moonbitch or a Villain Sue!
When I say native, I mean one who still lives on the Moon (so Kaguya and Eirin don't count), btw.
she could easily be a total villain sue if she wanted to be, but sagume was just testing the player character
*AHEM*
I’m using moonbitch as one of my insults now
She was even worse than the other lunarians though. She's the one that was threatening Gensokyo with genocide throughout Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom.
@@Archedgar She actually didn't want to. When she saw an opportunity to NOT do it, she took it.
Oh god what have she done .....
+Hecatia Lapislazuli "The video is correct."
damn it
+Hecatia Lapislazuli "The title's right-side up" -Sagume Kishin
+Hecatia Lapislazuli "My video's title is normal."
***** on purpose.
***** same.
It sounds like a Touhou casino.
I wonder what pain you would have to endure for a jackpot...
the reason she has one wing is because she forgot to drink her red bull
First time i saw her i thought it was gengetsu with a new hairstyle and colour.
God im stupid
+Ben Heywood I'm glad it isn't Gengetsu.
+Clownpiece IT'S RAPE TIME!!!
Zyvux Get rid of Rape Time and Mugetsu+ Gengetsu would STILL be the hardest Extra bosses I've ever fought.
I mean, I can't even _get_ to Gengetsu.
Clownpiece
(L8 reply) sagume can be gengetsu too. Just increase the speed of the bullets.
Moon Angel ~ Misfortune
its Sephiroth's sister!
if ULIL never happened, does this mean LOLK wouldnt happen and the lunar capital is FUQQED?
+Sp0okeh yep . and it would e a good ending , i think ?
Not exactly, rather i believe it’s the other way around.
As in Sagume created the Lunar Capital ball, which was the reason for rumors and urban legends manifesting.
She supposedly did this so the lunar capital could be relocated to Gensokyo if the worst case scenario happened with Junko’s siege
That's quite a dream, indeed.
And now my head is turning over
Full version has so many amazing music pieces~
If you would measure this game by it's music, dialogue, characters and main characters only, this would be the best Touhou game made yet.
This theme surprised me, at first I thought it was pretty interesting, mostly because of the melody, I would have expected something like this from boss 5, not stage 4 honestly. It also does fits our God/Amajoku figure that World hates pretty well. Seriously, she has to have so hard time in life when everything she says turns out to be a lie over time.
Popcioslav - Her power is not "Saying anything to be reversed" but it is "Reverse a Situation by her words"
Hecatia Lapislazuli It's explained in her profiles. World literally hates her as a goddess and this is why anything she says turns out to be a lie. Yes I know Wiki states so, but oly day passed I don't expect people to have perfect translation skills.
Also it's explained in story and dialogues as well.
Popcioslav - But the characters are mostly uninteresting! Sagume is one of the exceptions. I can't read Japanese so can't say anything about the dialogue, main characters are same as they've ever been.
As for music, I actually really like this soundtrack, but this is one of the two I don't think is good. I don't feel like it has any emotion to it, nor is it particularly memorable. Very generic sounding.
Relick You think so? I think we have actually best Touhou cast so far. Junko, Hekatia and Clownface, while uninteresting at first, they are most ingenious characters, Kind of like Seija was.
Popcioslav - never spell my name wrong !
Seija:THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN REVERSE STUFF IS ME :P
I always wonder how does The Wheel of Fortune sounds like.
Like a wheel, only it never gets flat-tired
She is the most broken thing in normal with Sanae: two ⑨ spellcard and two cheap spam-ish spellcard.
+. 狼丸 So unfocus.
Garry Dumblowski? It can trivialize half of her pattern to ⑨ spellcard
. 狼丸 I'm pretty sure it can trivialize three of them...
Which ones are you talking about, exactly?
Garry Dumblowski? Second spellcard lol.
. 狼丸 Oh, yeah, I suppose the familiars do create still bullets when they get destroyed.
Seija:Rewind Manipulation
Sagume:Distorting Reality (Changing Reality)
The ability have nothing alike to me >~
WHY CANT SAGUME SIMPLY FUCKING SAY:"Mima wont appear in the next touhou."??!!
+Din Dolarevic ''Mima is going to appear in the next Touhou, I assure you.''
+Kuzumi Or "EX-rumia will not become canon in the next touhou".
If EXRumia become canon, it's gonna create the Great OC War of 2016 and everyone'll be fighting to get their OCs in.
The Guy Except there is a chance that exrumia could be canon just not how shes seen in the fandom tho. That and the matter of the bloody ribbon she had is so dam fishy. But I do agree there would be a war but like any fandom there is also going 2 be wars about stuff like that.
Great Weiss
ZUN tends to stop caring about the less important characters of his early games. The more recent the games are, the more he likes them. I think it's probably the end of Rumia, Mystia, Wriggle, Bucket-Chan, Parsee, Spider-chan, the Aki Sister and obviously Flandre's character development arcs.
She can simply reprieve herself of her abilities by saying "everything I say is a lie".
Or she could erase her own history by saying "everything I know is a lie".
Magus Paintbrush
Really no, her power is not so OP, she can't change facts that qere already established , she can only turn around events that are happening in the actual time and haven't been release
If She Doesn't Want Her Powers Can't She Just Say:
*"I Want To Keep This Lying Ability!"*
I think Sagume wants to keep her ability, she just has to be careful what she says.
Wait are we summoning demons?
Oh look, not a single person disliked this video...
...WAIT NO CRAP I TAKE IT BACK-
1 dislike....
No dislikes now. I suppose they reconsidered?
i need the context of this video, im new in touhou lore
Okay, let me try to describe Sagume for you…
Her entire power is the ability to “reverse a situation with her words”. This is basically a complicated way of saying that, if she talks about something with a chance of occurring, she jinxes it. This boss battle is her testing the main character to see if the MC could potentially stand against the final boss. Once you beat her, and she’s convinced you could stand a chance, she chooses her words very carefully to tip the odds in your favor, then sends you in the direction of the true enemy.
Why hurt my neck
Sagume
Sa"GUM"
Sa"GUMI"
Sagume is a bubblegum?
dafuq?
ZUN, stop try we always know the meaning of your char names.
(GFG)
oh and btw
"GUMI"
Gumi Megpoid. gg
Sagume is Gumi Megpoid? o_o
Sagume/Gumi confirmed
sagume
sagumo
*amogus*
*ZUN predicted **_the thing_*
-jk pls don't take this too seriously-
Sagumos
Sagume chaotic power-
"You are amogus, no, no,
You can mute. left?"
She is Seija's mother
Am I the only one here to think there's actually kinda some connection between Sagume and Seija? I mean, Sagume can make the situation to become opposite of what she says, and Seija can flip anything over. Hmmmm.......
They're both amanojaku.
Really? I thought Sagume is a Lunarian.
Jessie Tricia She's both. ZUN stated that she's an amanojaku while talking about her theme.
+IA Vocaloid Gee, that helps a lot. Thanks!
Sagume is based upon the Shinto deity Amenosagume, an advisor of the kami Amewakahito who inadvertently caused his death when she misidentified a pheasant sent by Amaterasu as an ill omen and adviced him to shoot it dead... the arrow Amewakahito shot at the pheasant fatally hit him in the chest when it fell back unto the ground... Amenosagume, along with the Tengu god Amanozako, is believed to have been the inspiration for Amanojaku.
우아한 포스가 나는 일러스트 군요.
Where do you get the pictures of the sprites?
tam hoa if you look closely, her face isn't like the one in the wiki too ~
Hecatia Lapislazuli The "hmm with ..." sprite? ;)
I know :3 and i found it on a Chinese Wiki :D
tam hoa where?
+jose figueroa they only have the emotions but here tou go
Sagume sucks in the floor is lava game
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