The BIG Debate

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  • Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
  • Imagine South Africa under the leadership of each party represented here. What would our future from economic policies to social reforms look like? Can we trust them to deliver?

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  • @isaaccpt6643
    @isaaccpt6643 2 місяці тому +109

    We can say whatever we want about South African politics but I'm hapoy that our democracy is healthy enough to have such a public debate and that is extremely encouraging

    • @VoiceOfReason579
      @VoiceOfReason579 2 місяці тому +1

      Lol because things have gotten serious. Desperate times call for Desperate measures.

    • @realnews8075
      @realnews8075 2 місяці тому

      These are not white apartheid times... where children were killed for wanting freedom

    • @dalipantshwa3078
      @dalipantshwa3078 Місяць тому

      smoke and mirrors friend. these faces are on the same payroll. Google Brenthurst Foundation and the conference it hosted recently where all the "leaders" on this panel were summoned.

  • @wazha1000
    @wazha1000 2 місяці тому +44

    Grootes was a terrible host. He brought bullying tactics from talk radio. The personal attack on Mashaba was shameful

    • @a.dlamini
      @a.dlamini Місяць тому +3

      Very

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 29 днів тому +3

      But I love how Herman conducted himself in response. Around the 30th minute or so

    • @noahsepp
      @noahsepp 16 днів тому

      Agreed. How rude of him. As a host you can’t do that. This was a political debate and Grootes just attacked Mashaba for no reason.

  • @yourehuman9325
    @yourehuman9325 2 місяці тому +144

    Can't expect to have a BIG debate with only Oppenheimer's children..

  • @lihlechipeya
    @lihlechipeya 2 місяці тому +43

    "You are just making that noise because your domestic worker and your nanny is going, she's going. You can make that noise as much as you like, under my government she is going" Gayton McKenzie 🤣 16:38

  • @mponengjoe9075
    @mponengjoe9075 2 місяці тому +273

    No election debate is complete without the EFF.

    • @user-ml9cp7vc5u
      @user-ml9cp7vc5u 2 місяці тому +25

      It's a ploy to undermine a very progressive political voice in the country. It is a fact that the EFF makes a huge impression in every debate where they are invited.

    • @_Msizi_
      @_Msizi_ 2 місяці тому +15

      I couldn't even continue with the video after finding out. Now I'm going to unlike it and leave. I'm furious at this point.

    • @kamogelopelo3277
      @kamogelopelo3277 2 місяці тому +3

      TRUE!!!

    • @SELLOMALESA
      @SELLOMALESA 2 місяці тому +2

      true

    • @TheADS121
      @TheADS121 2 місяці тому +12

      EFF was invited but declined

  • @shinaberum3952
    @shinaberum3952 2 місяці тому +74

    Gayton is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Making the establishment politicians very uncomfortable
    😂🥳🥳😂🥳🥳🥳

    • @mathewrichards7309
      @mathewrichards7309 Місяць тому +3

      ANC Puppet

    • @jaimpin4784
      @jaimpin4784 Місяць тому +6

      I AGREE AND STEVEN IS MAKING HIS NAME @ss to ask idiotic questions and trying to make him as a joke. If Gayton could win and stand by his word this country will change for the best

    • @millionairewizdom
      @millionairewizdom Місяць тому +7

      Gayton is REALISTIC, he doesn't sugarcoat stuff, straight truth.

  • @mthokozisilanga4497
    @mthokozisilanga4497 2 місяці тому +36

    Good Mashaba for putting this journalist in his place😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Artistsandlegends
      @Artistsandlegends 2 місяці тому

      The EFF leader is a dictator in the making. Be careful of him. #zimbabwe

  • @nyikobaloyi5527
    @nyikobaloyi5527 2 місяці тому +85

    Herman Mashaba put that sorry excuse of a host in his place nicely!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai 2 місяці тому +1

      yes

    • @christianKing101
      @christianKing101 2 місяці тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @jaimpin4784
      @jaimpin4784 Місяць тому +4

      Steven is a joke of note , could they not find someone better than him

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai Місяць тому

      @@jaimpin4784 yes

    • @SwiftSP
      @SwiftSP Місяць тому +2

      That comeback of Mashaba is like South Africa vs England the last 10 minutes Rugby WC that is etched into history 😂😂😂😂

  • @wikussedze9292
    @wikussedze9292 2 місяці тому +81

    The interviewer Steven is making it so obvious who he favors. Found it quite irritating. You are not open and equal to everyone. Clearly Steven is favouring the DA.

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai 2 місяці тому +4

      yes

    • @nkanyisomkhize853
      @nkanyisomkhize853 2 місяці тому +3

      That what I'm seeing, exactly

    • @chiccodeebokmurema671
      @chiccodeebokmurema671 2 місяці тому +5

      The good thing is that he exposed himself

    • @eugenegareth
      @eugenegareth Місяць тому +3

      That's very true, I was about to make the same comment.

    • @bold_art
      @bold_art Місяць тому +5

      He is unprofessional and childish, as he is at SAFM

  • @caven7056
    @caven7056 Місяць тому +20

    The audience is not a reflection of the demographics of SA.

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 29 днів тому

      its a microscope into the consumers of DM, does it have a true reflection of the people of RSA?

    • @user-ne3nm3wk6p
      @user-ne3nm3wk6p 15 днів тому

      The Audience exposes the lense that The Daily Maverick curates its narrative and selective outrage and suppresses certain narrative to pander to this minority. I never believed it when they spoke of Stratcom but you can not help but see it on this video and how they ran this platform.

  • @mgwampi
    @mgwampi Місяць тому +40

    The IFP leader quietly stole the show for me.

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 2 місяці тому +83

    What a cool guide guy, leader of the IFP. 🤙 Good luck sir.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 2 місяці тому +16

      i saw a lot of big ego's on that stage. he was the only one that looked like a president

    • @londimkhize9196
      @londimkhize9196 2 місяці тому +9

      very measured and calm,,, it was descending into chaos until he calmly spoke about trusting the work of the Multi Party Charter

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 Місяць тому +2

      Also like him

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 Місяць тому +3

      Should multi party charter win, he must be president

  • @spha325
    @spha325 Місяць тому +27

    My vote 🗳️ Nationally belongs to Patriotic Alliance ❤❤❤❤

    • @corneliapeters7877
      @corneliapeters7877 12 днів тому +1

      A vote for them is a vote for the anc

    • @eldenrossouw314
      @eldenrossouw314 6 днів тому

      ​@@corneliapeters7877 clearly you are brainwashed and do not understand politics and how a coalition work. You will see after election day who will go with ANC, you are in for a big surprise

  • @kamomabuya5457
    @kamomabuya5457 2 місяці тому +30

    When Gayton and John were going at each other and Lamola said "South Africa, here's your coalition government" I felt that 😅💔🥺.

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck 2 місяці тому +57

    Gayton McKenzie was throwing hits after hits after hits....❤😂🎉

  • @OreDecor
    @OreDecor 2 місяці тому +31

    Steenhuizen you are not a man of your word which makes you not an honourable person

  • @terminator2846
    @terminator2846 Місяць тому +7

    I literally love how Gayton never sugar coats anything here 😂😂😂. We needed someone like this here.
    ActionSA has spoken some sense.
    My vote will never go to DA nor the ANC 🚮. John is a liar and is not for the people.

  • @ntobekodube2081
    @ntobekodube2081 2 місяці тому +58

    Shots fired by Mashaba 💥😂😂😂😂

  • @bokangreacts843
    @bokangreacts843 2 місяці тому +18

    without the EFF this is just propaganda to bash the ANC by moonshot pact wont waste my time

  • @lockdownhouse6308
    @lockdownhouse6308 2 місяці тому +19

    EFF’s absence is louder !!

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck 2 місяці тому +95

    Gayton Speaks like this because he is not funded.... He is free and not bound by anyone❤❤❤

    • @CodeSleeper
      @CodeSleeper 2 місяці тому +4

      Facts💯💯💯

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm 2 місяці тому

      Gayton McKenzie don't have to clean lick any boby GAYTON MCKENZIE PLEASE FONT YOUR VOTERS

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm 2 місяці тому +1

      Don't let your voters down

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai 2 місяці тому +1

      👍

    • @himdamnself
      @himdamnself 2 місяці тому +2

      No room for xenophobes

  • @balenidumisani296
    @balenidumisani296 2 місяці тому +23

    Why is this crowd only white? Is this discussion taking place in Europe?

    • @maxinefoster18
      @maxinefoster18 Місяць тому +3

      Good question

    • @TheSebastianmamba
      @TheSebastianmamba Місяць тому

      The blacks are at Cubanas😂😂

    • @Mstshepana90
      @Mstshepana90 Місяць тому +1

      That audience is the owner of Mzansi

    • @user-ne3nm3wk6p
      @user-ne3nm3wk6p 15 днів тому

      It is absolutely shocking. The Daily Maverick is out of touch and ethically unsound as a serious journalistic publication. Shameful

    • @GrootManEiniqua
      @GrootManEiniqua 14 днів тому +1

      Is that all you came here for, do you live in SA? If you do you would be aware that certain parts of SA are dominated by Blacks and some are dominated by Whites, some are dominated by Coloured and some by Indians etc. Now use your common sense.
      If the debate were held in Eldorado Park what do you think the crowd would have looked like? Same as if it were held in Alexandra Township.

  • @mcdonaldtshabalala663
    @mcdonaldtshabalala663 2 місяці тому +36

    Gayton and Mashaba are the best... Parliament will be interesting

  • @EmmanuelMoela
    @EmmanuelMoela 2 місяці тому +56

    Stephen Grootes is soo immature what a shame!

  • @mousepad9763
    @mousepad9763 2 місяці тому +29

    Steven 😂😂😂😂 this stage was too big for you sir you were utterly unprofessional

  • @CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq
    @CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq 2 місяці тому +47

    I do agree with Gayton regarding illegal immigrants having the jobs!!!!

    • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
      @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 2 місяці тому +7

      Gayton must be used,he must prove himself in a more challenging position,he can deliver

    • @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
      @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq 2 місяці тому +5

      But who is giving them jobs and notice how they want to get rid of minimum wage so they can under pay the poor and say at least they have jobs.

    • @bhekisibiluane4030
      @bhekisibiluane4030 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq shameful capitalist clapping hands sies. Debate was a clown show.

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm 2 місяці тому

      Mostly white people flapping hands because STEVEN IS WHITE ​@@bhekisibiluane4030

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai 2 місяці тому

      true

  • @rogerwolfson4897
    @rogerwolfson4897 Місяць тому +7

    I love Gaton, his my man

  • @MalooTheSpecialist
    @MalooTheSpecialist 2 місяці тому +30

    I may not be an EFF supporter but where is the EFF, where is the MK, where is the Freedom Front Plus party... This debate was structered to undermind certain parties and to make other parties stand out... Steven is a real doooooos...

  • @user-gy4lv3ck9q
    @user-gy4lv3ck9q 2 місяці тому +12

    The leader of the IFP was the most mature and was a statesman…. The rest were politicians.

  • @phiwo8998
    @phiwo8998 2 місяці тому +107

    Steven is utterly unprofessional, condescending in his tone and laughter ! Terrible panelist.

    • @bhekisibiluane4030
      @bhekisibiluane4030 2 місяці тому +12

      shameful behaviour sies!

    • @mponengjoe9075
      @mponengjoe9075 2 місяці тому

      DA is likely to see its worst electoral decline this year.its leader is a walking wreck and lack leadership acumen .he is all over the show and lack strategic planning.

    • @superbowljoel01
      @superbowljoel01 2 місяці тому +8

      to be fair, it's hard to take the anc representative seriously here, because every problem we face has been created by the anc. It's like asking your drug dealer to solve your drug addiction problem.

    • @godwillpulesnr9635
      @godwillpulesnr9635 2 місяці тому +9

      My thoughts exactly. He disappointed me seriously.

    • @VoiceOfReason579
      @VoiceOfReason579 2 місяці тому +1

      True but at least he's condescending to all the panelist right 😂

  • @sheldinduplessis1424
    @sheldinduplessis1424 Місяць тому +16

    When Gayton told that guy "Nobody is that stupid".... That was the perfect response.

  • @TheBuhlebezwe
    @TheBuhlebezwe 2 місяці тому +14

    Definitely voting for ActionSA. Mashaba comes across as a very honest patriotic man that just wants to fix SA.

  • @lesedimohapi5283
    @lesedimohapi5283 2 місяці тому +16

    Not really pleased by the QUALITY of questions asked by the journalists. Simply questions grabbed from the air

  • @adamwyngaard3629
    @adamwyngaard3629 2 місяці тому +7

    Definitely missing Mr. Malema. Mr McKenzie says it like it is, that's what we need in Politics in SA.

  • @neoqwabe8581
    @neoqwabe8581 2 місяці тому +7

    "South Africa here is your coalition government" (Lamola, 49:12)😂😂

  • @kopanokhumalo4344
    @kopanokhumalo4344 2 місяці тому +52

    Lamola had the toughest job...unfortunately the ANC is rotten

  • @spha325
    @spha325 Місяць тому +21

    John is a true politician his lying with a straight face 😂😂😂😂

  • @mponengjoe9075
    @mponengjoe9075 2 місяці тому +13

    Illegal immigration benefits busness bcos of slave wages n not adhering to minimimum wages.all this NGOs representing illegal immigrants r likely funded by big business and big farmers.

  • @Lee_BuU
    @Lee_BuU 2 місяці тому +59

    Jonh just gets dumber dumber😢😢😂

    • @maryjooste6161
      @maryjooste6161 2 місяці тому +5

      Your not serious why do you say John are dumb mybe thres problem with you IK

    • @Lee_BuU
      @Lee_BuU 2 місяці тому

      @maryjooste6161 are you listening to what he is saying...and do you honestly believe what he represents is for the good of all South Africans ...you must analyze things critically and don't put emotions upfront ...especially in politics....lemme give an assignment...go listen to Trump Vs Malema ...compare the two ...then you go listen to John vs Biden they both these two have ...no vision...no patriotism...and lack leadership

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck 2 місяці тому +1

      ❤ beautiful said❤

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark Місяць тому +3

      John was brilliant

    • @KKOPPONG
      @KKOPPONG Місяць тому

      The DA is fucked. If John is the best the DA got then tough luck😂

  • @tshepoleroto8990
    @tshepoleroto8990 24 дні тому +6

    PA AND ActionSA will save the country

  • @MihlaliNomandela
    @MihlaliNomandela 2 місяці тому +18

    This is not balanced without the EFF's presence. But ke it's the DM, what did you expect?

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 29 днів тому

      we must not be disillusioned by this. Their lack of involvement speaks volumes, how can you speak of them in absentia?

  • @menziken2783
    @menziken2783 2 місяці тому +54

    Because EFF is not part of this, it's a joke 😂 😂 😊

    • @samkelomngadi9515
      @samkelomngadi9515 2 місяці тому +1

      Both EFF and MK, it's a joke

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 місяці тому +3

      We dnt bring Stoojies on such platforms,you see and listen here,no need to make noise,there are smart microphones.

    • @IonizedComa
      @IonizedComa 2 місяці тому +2

      Because it's a civil debate. There's no throwing water bottles and screaming at the top of the lungs

  • @junephillips1174
    @junephillips1174 Місяць тому +5

    This interviewer Is most definitely a DA member. His not giving Gayton Mckenzie a fair chance his bias. My vote goes to PA .

  • @vinnydadomza...9591
    @vinnydadomza...9591 2 місяці тому +39

    Why was the EFF which is the 3rd largest party excluded here?

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 місяці тому +11

      Some classes at school dnt need noise makers.
      Class,ethics and Class!!

    • @mmmotives7452
      @mmmotives7452 2 місяці тому +6

      EFF most likely declined the invitation.

    • @GOAT676
      @GOAT676 2 місяці тому +5

      They cut ties with the Daily Maverick so I heard so they may have declined the offer or just didn’t get any.

    • @himdamnself
      @himdamnself 2 місяці тому +4

      EFF would have sent all of them packing

    • @GOAT676
      @GOAT676 2 місяці тому +2

      @@himdamnself no they are a trash party

  • @isoboy1000
    @isoboy1000 2 місяці тому +44

    "If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now" i felt it. You could see on his face that he didn't take it well.

    • @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
      @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq 2 місяці тому +3

      The man wants to under pay his employees and say looking they have jobs Mashaba only cares about his business interest and nothing else.

    • @mukuvaribrighton1586
      @mukuvaribrighton1586 2 місяці тому

      That Stephen is a stupid lad, he keeps on throwing undertones. Its clear he is a DA stooge, Im happy Mashaba put him in his place.

    • @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
      @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq He says, Labour can't treat SMMES the same as Medium size and Big business. It is the those laws that kill small businesses. Small businesses must pay as much as they can afford. It is small business that help decrease unemployment. Half a loaf of bread is better than nothing.

    • @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
      @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq 2 місяці тому

      @@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 Bro Mashaba just said he wants to determine how much he should pay someone period.Capitalist only care about profit he further states that's the reason he became a politician.

    • @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
      @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 2 місяці тому +2

      @@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq Remember, he talks on behalf of ActionSa, and ActionSa does not put a blanket policy on these kinds of businesses as I have distinguished them from above. Its an error on his part, because he is not a seasoned politician. Otherwise, he's the right man for the job. Capitalism has its falls but its way better than socialism, socialism is a disaster, it has not worked anywhere. Free market economy is the best for South Africa. As long a the ruling government does not have a healthy relationship with the (1) private sector in Sa and (2) does not promote non-racialism, then rest assured nothing will ever work in SA, SA will be a failed state.

  • @picassocube3521
    @picassocube3521 Місяць тому +6

    "If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing the job that you're doing right now", in future, when I see Steven's face I'll be reminded by this line!

    • @neekvids
      @neekvids Місяць тому

      how can you laugh at someone who lives under a bridgewhen you live in a box

  • @clementpetersen-vb1nm
    @clementpetersen-vb1nm 2 місяці тому +4

    I am really impressed by Gayton Mckenzie he is very direct and is clearly representing the colored voters and citizens sentiments not just his own.
    After listen to this debate I will definitely vote for Gayton Mckenzie

  • @leratomohlaudi5814
    @leratomohlaudi5814 2 місяці тому +20

    You are having debates with Parties that are not even on the national stage , that haven’t proven themselves yet you leave the EFF out😂? What a joke this is

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 місяці тому

      Go and debate where you have proven and don't invite these Parties,call ACT,UDM and MK the debate alone,it will be nice to see Malema,Holomisa,Zuma,Magashula

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 Місяць тому

      Eff doesn't have interviews with daily maverick

  • @colleenrajpaul6023
    @colleenrajpaul6023 Місяць тому +5

    Gaydon is a leader no dout

  • @skimanization
    @skimanization 2 місяці тому +40

    It could have been nicer if the EFF was invited in this debate. The strong youth led EFFof South Africa will definitely WIN!!!

    • @tlhaketaioe1601
      @tlhaketaioe1601 2 місяці тому +8

      They know we were going to send, Floyd, or Mbuyiseni, Julius, even our Spokesperson was going to mob the floor with them.

    • @williamshakur8715
      @williamshakur8715 2 місяці тому +2

      And turn tables over to much violence party

    • @thembanimgenu190
      @thembanimgenu190 2 місяці тому +2

      How do you know they were not invited 😅

    • @velaniludidi5886
      @velaniludidi5886 2 місяці тому +1

      Remember the EFF barred Daily Maverick from their events. The EFF does not speak to Daily Maverick, it was impossible to invite them

    • @thembanimgenu190
      @thembanimgenu190 2 місяці тому

      @@velaniludidi5886 I think EFF people must go to sleep on events such as these.
      The EFF is also not participating in some of the podcast platforms so nje mabalale/basele utywala.

  • @timzone8075
    @timzone8075 2 місяці тому +15

    Gayton speaks honest truth, even Steven is touched, he worried about his wokers at the expense of South Africans who are unemployed. For the sake of law, I'm prepared to carry my Identity documents the same way I'm carrying my driver's license. They reasons as why Unemployment is high in SA is because, jobs are stolen by foreigners and Unpatriotic employers. In SA foreigners they get employed by companies that do not respect the laws of this country, by employing foreigners with no special skills, but general skills South Africans have.

  • @thamytmvelase2731
    @thamytmvelase2731 2 місяці тому +19

    That Steven guy is so unprofessional, we expected such behavior from politicians not the interviewer. Completely ruined what could hv been a great debate. I like how Mashaba handled him

  • @sihlen.ngcobo9344
    @sihlen.ngcobo9344 2 місяці тому +24

    Gayton's energy

  • @Nodange666
    @Nodange666 2 місяці тому +19

    You can isolate the EFF all you want but deep down i know you know

    • @lindilelubabalozulu8476
      @lindilelubabalozulu8476 2 місяці тому

      They know everything and they are exposing themselves now

    • @sasha8664
      @sasha8664 2 місяці тому +3

      😂Yes,we know they are Violent and Corrupt

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 місяці тому +2

      Daaamn who in good mind,invite EFF for debate,I have never seen these guys debating even in our national assembly.

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 13 днів тому

      Yes we know the eff is useless😊

  • @mzimkhulujita2965
    @mzimkhulujita2965 2 місяці тому +46

    Gayton handled this horrible crowd

    • @mythoughts5170
      @mythoughts5170 2 місяці тому +5

      There was nothing wrong with the crowd

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm 2 місяці тому +1

      The truth is never plesent Da is living in la la land just like the ANC WHAT IS DIFFERENCE between THE DA AND ANC IN THIS 30 YEARS

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark Місяць тому +2

      Gayton is the problem😂

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 13 днів тому

      ​@@the_antiquarkyup he is a massive problem for the DA, Anc and Eff😊

  • @siphiwengcobo3975
    @siphiwengcobo3975 2 місяці тому +49

    What makes this circus big without the party that represents the BIGGEST population of our country EFF? Do whatever you like but you will never silence the mighty EFF🖤💚❤️

    • @lindilelubabalozulu8476
      @lindilelubabalozulu8476 2 місяці тому +2

      Why are we being discriminated against?

    • @fanasmkhethoni8176
      @fanasmkhethoni8176 2 місяці тому

      No discrimination, the eff leaders wouldn't participate in anything that has to do with the Daily Maverick and ENCA.Daily maverick investigated The eff leaders on VBS Scandal​@lindilelubabalozulu8476

    • @LL2019
      @LL2019 2 місяці тому +1

      This is the debate organized by the funders of the parties represented here. They wouldn't like their funds to be used by the EFF.

    • @user-yz3su4nu9b
      @user-yz3su4nu9b 2 місяці тому

      Because EFF always turn everything into anarchy

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 місяці тому +5

      And dnt feel offended,we all know Eff from day one has never been a part of the national assembly debate,all they do, it's wear red and coz chaos always.Ethics first.

  • @autlali5115
    @autlali5115 2 місяці тому +54

    Where is EFF ?

  • @phillipphoku9589
    @phillipphoku9589 2 місяці тому +82

    The audience doesn't represent the diversity of the South African population. It's like this show was recorded in Europe.

    • @MartinVirgo-kz5wm
      @MartinVirgo-kz5wm 2 місяці тому

      Best ❤❤

    • @sindiso_ndlovu
      @sindiso_ndlovu 2 місяці тому +4

      It was a presentation to the bosses

    • @lysterwhitfield5551
      @lysterwhitfield5551 2 місяці тому +11

      That's because your clan is more interested in going to shebeens and Shisanyamas instead of showing up at debates.

    • @mmmotives7452
      @mmmotives7452 2 місяці тому +5

      Participation is voluntary. If people do not engage themselves, don't blame or pull the race card.

    • @himdamnself
      @himdamnself 2 місяці тому +1

      It's the reason why the EFF was not invited

  • @user-tz1pm7ir4s
    @user-tz1pm7ir4s 2 місяці тому +12

    Gayton I agree with your view on Hamas 💯💯💯

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck 2 місяці тому +7

    Love Gayton McKenzie❤🇿🇦

  • @peternampolo5290
    @peternampolo5290 2 місяці тому +17

    If only the EFF was present, this debate would have taken the right direction. Other than that, this was pure nonsense at the highest level. There’s no conviction in ideology and structural implementations intended.🚮

    • @DabbieDebs
      @DabbieDebs 2 місяці тому +5

      Would disrupt the meeting and make it a circus, like in parliament....they are so intolerant and arrogant.

    • @penekedirero4636
      @penekedirero4636 Місяць тому

      Tell us where is our gogos monies baba before you can be allowed on the table😂

  • @user-do1pb2cp9w
    @user-do1pb2cp9w 2 місяці тому +8

    This plane called multi party coalition has failed before it could even get off from the ground

  • @_Msizi_
    @_Msizi_ 2 місяці тому +10

    Wy didn't we have an EFF rep here. Imnot watching the rest of this. Bye bye

  • @CharlieMhlongo
    @CharlieMhlongo Місяць тому +34

    Gayton is not a politician, he is a leader

  • @user-dq6un8eu6x
    @user-dq6un8eu6x 2 місяці тому +23

    Prof JJ Tabane must organize a proper political debate for us. That will include the Eff.

    • @penekedirero4636
      @penekedirero4636 Місяць тому

      1stly you must tell us where is our gogos money and when you are gonna pay it back baba then we can talk.

    • @KhelleRadebe
      @KhelleRadebe Місяць тому

      Most definitely, this was laughable 😂 it is more of a white worry debate.

    • @icno3508
      @icno3508 Місяць тому +1

      07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿

  • @GrahamRollison
    @GrahamRollison 2 місяці тому +27

    Lost all respect I had for Steven grootes. Gayton u what this sinking country needs.

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm 2 місяці тому +2

      AMEN AGREE 💯 WITH YOU

  • @Abby_KayGee
    @Abby_KayGee 2 місяці тому +37

    Gayton is what we need as a country. Decisive,smart and patriotic.

    • @relaxmeditatelive
      @relaxmeditatelive 2 місяці тому

      You mean erratic, irrational, and emotionally unintelligent.

    • @maryjooste6161
      @maryjooste6161 2 місяці тому +2

      I'm in Bwest where gayton are in charge Bwest is a rotten place under gayton look how Knysna look u under gayton he talk but not a walk

    • @mythoughts5170
      @mythoughts5170 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@relaxmeditateliveAbsolutely agree with you👏💯

    • @copycatprint4584
      @copycatprint4584 2 місяці тому +1

      Abby u are my kinda person

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 13 днів тому

      ​@@maryjooste6161thanks but I am done voting for useless DA and Anc😊

  • @Pamela-ek9cp
    @Pamela-ek9cp Місяць тому +5

    Voting for PA

  • @craiggouws4700
    @craiggouws4700 2 місяці тому +8

    Steven is clearly in favour of DA. How can they allow Steven as an interviewer? He is not objective

  • @sdeleligolide2585
    @sdeleligolide2585 2 місяці тому +3

    Gayton mckenzie is a great men

  • @mpilompanza9101
    @mpilompanza9101 2 місяці тому +4

    This is what South Africa needs. I'm happy that alternative media sees this gap and tries by all means to fill it . We need even more debates as well as Q & A sessions between average voters and politicians. This will drive our country towards the right direction.

  • @meridahmwase648
    @meridahmwase648 2 місяці тому +5

    I agree with Mc Kenzie

  • @mukuvaribrighton1586
    @mukuvaribrighton1586 2 місяці тому +7

    Wow MASHABA.........If you know the value of money, you would not be doing the job that you are doing now!!!!!!

  • @geoffrbbrown
    @geoffrbbrown 2 місяці тому +6

    The two DM people are utterly unprofessional and disrespectful … They play to the gallery by mocking Lamola. I’m not an apologist for him, but how utterly unprofessional they are.

  • @kgosimahlaku1981
    @kgosimahlaku1981 Місяць тому +10

    EFF is politics in SA and is what made most people to be aware of political issues.

    • @oitsiaya468
      @oitsiaya468 Місяць тому

      Facts

    • @icno3508
      @icno3508 Місяць тому +1

      07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿 banana africa

    • @user-nv5tu1je1h
      @user-nv5tu1je1h Місяць тому +1

      True

  • @nanasi9791
    @nanasi9791 2 місяці тому +5

    There is nothing controversial about carrying Id documents until an influx of illegal foreigners is under control.People carried dompaas during the apartheid goverment at some point.

    • @rosehunter5140
      @rosehunter5140 2 місяці тому

      So you think it is a good idea to bring back the dompas??

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 13 днів тому

      Agreed, anything to remove illegal foreigners

  • @sakkiekibido1665
    @sakkiekibido1665 2 місяці тому +18

    Steven is so annoying. How can these host be making jokes about serious stuff. We as youth cant vote when these hosts and politician act like teenagers.

    • @wikussedze9292
      @wikussedze9292 2 місяці тому +4

      Agree Steven is irritating and he clearly favours DA only.

    • @sakkiekibido1665
      @sakkiekibido1665 2 місяці тому +2

      @@wikussedze9292 it is so clear.

    • @mythoughts5170
      @mythoughts5170 2 місяці тому

      ​@@wikussedze9292Sorry disagree there

  • @ntombifikilendlovu9918
    @ntombifikilendlovu9918 2 місяці тому +11

    Ronald, After seeing n hearing you for so many times. You still fail to show me Why you are Justice Minister 🤔🤔

  • @ElPresidenteSA
    @ElPresidenteSA 2 місяці тому +16

    MKP literally enjoys free marketing everywhere even in it's absence 😂

  • @user-pr2pt5vm1j
    @user-pr2pt5vm1j 2 місяці тому +16

    Coloured Community wake up. For too long we have been taken for granted. We are marginalized in Mzanzi

    • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
      @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 2 місяці тому

      Colored communities had better stand up,they cannot afford another 5yrs of being marginalised

    • @costaqwabe5683
      @costaqwabe5683 2 місяці тому

      I doubt Gayton is the ONE...come to Action SA it's an inclusive party .. it's not a white or black party ..

    • @kopanokhumalo4344
      @kopanokhumalo4344 2 місяці тому

      You are black

  • @gysgijsbers4202
    @gysgijsbers4202 2 місяці тому +7

    I have lots of HOPE for SA after this debate. It shows we can talk to each other as SOUTH AFRICANS first and foremost, even if we disagree on many things... ❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

  • @siphiwembiyela3886
    @siphiwembiyela3886 2 місяці тому +7

    Steven favored the DA but couldn't stand the fact that the audience is leaning more on Mashaba and getting a round of applause with every statement he makes hence he ended up being personal but he found Mashaba up to the task. My feeling is that from all these guys we can get a decent government going forward

  • @princetafarabhebhe5781
    @princetafarabhebhe5781 2 місяці тому +6

    This debate just needed Floyd!!

  • @angeloarthur5446
    @angeloarthur5446 2 місяці тому +29

    Gayton Mckenzie has my vote

  • @ZulumanNdodana
    @ZulumanNdodana 2 місяці тому +11

    Without the EFF theres no debate.

    • @williamshakur8715
      @williamshakur8715 2 місяці тому +4

      Eff is aggressive party they will turn over the table s

    • @christianKing101
      @christianKing101 2 місяці тому

      But the debate happened without the EFF they are not respected enough to be invited in the first place, no one beside the followers of malema has respect for him

    • @sasha8664
      @sasha8664 2 місяці тому +5

      Eff dont have self control.They will get aggressive and get violent...😂

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 місяці тому +3

      We dnt invite EFF on platforms like these,at times they behave like stray dogs,that are on leach.you can't walk a Mgodoyi on a leach,is going to bite you badly.

    • @zulub.r.u.h7846
      @zulub.r.u.h7846 Місяць тому +2

      Well we just watched a whole hour of a debate

  • @millarngel7
    @millarngel7 2 місяці тому +14

    Steven was so biased and unprofessional, glad EFF didn't join this circus

  • @moafro722
    @moafro722 2 місяці тому +65

    the fact that the EFF isn't part of this debate and that by Biz news is a disgrace. tomorrow when the EFF reaches above 15% the very panelists will be the very same people running to make coalitions with them. I mean how do you call the PA which is yet to contest national elections over the EFF. this is really disappointing!!!

    • @TshepoMotale-zq9sd
      @TshepoMotale-zq9sd 2 місяці тому +5

      No you think too much to make that statement, let's hear new players and the view we know the EFF

    • @top-gnews8333
      @top-gnews8333 2 місяці тому +12

      ​@@TshepoMotale-zq9sd hey wena clever black IFP Is old here

    • @justhumble1
      @justhumble1 2 місяці тому

      Well if you can check carefully it's the masters and their slaves and the EFF has not sold out our people so it's a positive that they are not here

    • @lindilemgqobele4337
      @lindilemgqobele4337 2 місяці тому

      remember all of these are scared of EFF, that has been proven.

    • @tshidiso9653
      @tshidiso9653 2 місяці тому +7

      Is DA and ANC new players

  • @Activist.Corner
    @Activist.Corner 2 місяці тому +8

    Where is the EFF, where is the MK. The exclusion of this political parties really shows that they represent the people, they are not of the system that oppresses blacks and the poor.

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark Місяць тому

      Yes they are😂 worse than ANC.

  • @markwainwright6243
    @markwainwright6243 Місяць тому +2

    ANC is really useless, thry created this mess

  • @nobuhlemthembuassertivewom6177
    @nobuhlemthembuassertivewom6177 2 місяці тому +4

    ActionSA makes sense for me. Herman Mashaba for President.

  • @loyiso3335
    @loyiso3335 2 місяці тому +11

    PA should consider reconsidering their stance on the Israel Palestine issue or they might lose votes.
    They could be neutral, if they have to

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 2 місяці тому +30

    Correct Ronald, the ANC needs help. Help to exit as a governing party.

  • @siphiwomanana8666
    @siphiwomanana8666 2 місяці тому +2

    Damn Stephen Grootes is actually stupid, 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lwandosambudla307
    @lwandosambudla307 Місяць тому +2

    Mckenzie I agree with you, it's easy we don't even need to stop them oh the road and ask for passpone instead we need to approach their employers to see if the employer is following the process of employment act, if not employer himself must face a penalty

  • @thinkingempire4kids289
    @thinkingempire4kids289 Місяць тому +3

    Poor Johny not the brightest crayon in the box

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 2 місяці тому +15

    Gayton, the youth might not want to be gardeners and domestics.

  • @K2009t
    @K2009t 11 днів тому +1

    Thank you Action SA you talk wisely

  • @8ballpoolking67
    @8ballpoolking67 2 місяці тому

    Where do I find such seminars or debates so I can attend in person?

  • @hopemajoe2577
    @hopemajoe2577 2 місяці тому +19

    Where is the EFF and MK?? They don't have time for Mikey mouse organisations

    • @lindilemgqobele4337
      @lindilemgqobele4337 2 місяці тому +5

      these are Oppenheimer Parties😂😂😂😂

    • @ayandamali9479
      @ayandamali9479 2 місяці тому +1

      No like ENCA , Daily Maverick is not EFF friend

  • @confuseddad2865
    @confuseddad2865 Місяць тому +3

    The loudest guy in the room is the most worried guy in the room, gosh.