I think Frank Miller wrote The Dark Knight Strikes Again that way on purpose. He thought: "I wrote the best Batman story ever, now I'm gonna write the worst ever, just for fun!"
My Personal Favorite Batman Stories: 1. Strange Apparitions 2. Ego 3. War on Crime 4. Night of the Stalker 5. Blind Justice 6. Night Cries 7. Death of The Innocents 8. Ultimate Evil 9. Going Sane 10. Birth of the Demon
I only just started reading Batman comics and Year One is criminally short. It seems like the perfect jumping off point until you realize its 4 issues and youre left lost and unsure where to read from there lol
I could help with that friend. Whatever you do, don’t read Batman year two next. I would follow up Batman year one with Ed Brubaker the man who laughs, followed by Batman by Jeff Loeb and Tim sale.
I haven't read Batman comics yet, but I have the one that my cousin gave me but I would love to buy it once I'm done reading the one that my cousin gave me whenever If I'm ready to read the one that my cousin gave me
I agree with number one for sure, the long Halloween and dark victory are fantastic! I still need to read dinis Batman omnibus which is on my shelf lol
Batman much like Spider-Man has always been my fav superhero but i never got to read comics, (finally got marvel comic app to read Spider-Man & daredevil) but I want physical copies of Batman’s. My parents actually bought me the “dark knight true story” book a few years ago and I have yet to read it but I will now before I actually buy a comic, knowing a lot more about Batman I had no idea it’s a very personal story to Paul Dini! I will definitely have to check out the BTAS tie in comic as well! Thanks for the recommendations!
If you are looking for a cost-effective place to start DC has started printing books and what’s called the compact comic line. It’s $10 for a full story and so far for Batman. They have hush and court of owls both excellent places to start.
Hey dude! I am happy to help. I think the best Batman 3 books to start with are Batman Year One, Batman The Long Halloween or Batman the Court Of Owls! Killing joke is also good and can be read after year one or on its own. If you have any questions feel free to ask and we also have a discord!
Putting Morrison that low is a bummer. But props for putting it up at all. It is certainly not "new reader friendly" maybe past the first 4 issues. Though unconnected, I'd certainly add Gothic, and most importantly, Arkham Asylum. While Final Crisis is a favorite, It's not necessary if you're only reading his Batman, as all relevant parts are shown in flashback in the issues from the "Time and the Batman" book. I've never heard that Zero Year was mandated. I know that Scott didn't want to undo Year One. But it was getting harder to work around it. If you're gonna count all of Morrison as one spot, I see no need to treat Snyder any different. Makes room for more recommendations. Also, the hate Superheavy gets is ridiculous. It's easily the best Gordon story, and ranks second for me in Snyder Batman work, only behind Black Mirror. Many good bits from New 52 Batman were contributions from Tynion. Lest we forget that the two storied both weekly series, with James listed first. I imagine getting Rebirth Detective was a "thank you" for keeping that Bat-train a-rollin' in Scott's absence. I just wish he'd had the same enthusiasm when he finally got on Batman proper. He seemed pretty jaded by that point, and jumped prematurely when Substack proved to be profitable. I certainly don't hate Tom King's run like some do, but I don't love it either. I mean, the best issue of the whole Bat/Cat thing was written by the other Tom! It's funny that the dream stuff gets dunked on so much. The Professor Pyg issue is my favorite of the 85! But now he is constantly extending his work with the characters and world of Gotham. And I just can't get excited for any of it. I wanted Batman/Catwoman, but by the time it finally became available in a collected format, I just wasn't jazzed enough to buy it, nor have I since. Again, to consolidate and expand, I'd just make a Frank Miller spot. Explain which books you like and which ones you hate. His stuff is all kinds of quality. I'm the world's biggest All-Star Batman fan. Anyone that takes it seriously seems to overlook how beautifully farcical it is. But no doubt, Dark Knight Returns and Year One are a lovely juxtaposition. Write the last Batman story ever, followed by the first. Few get to do that. Snyder did with Zero Year and Last Knight on Earth. My favorite is Morrison doing All-Star Superman then New 52 Action. Dini's Hush trilogy is an absolute must if you read the original story. Hush is a fun jump on title because of how much it features of Batman's universe. But the twists fall pretty flat. Dini retroactively made him one of the best of the Rogues gallery. But to mention some extra Loeb that IS solid start to finish AND fun as hell is his work on Superman/Batman. I recommend this title to new readers all the time that have an interest in both characters. Certainly some surprising omissions! Despite being a Joker story, I think Killing Joke is an essential read. I especially recommend it to non-comic fans FIRST. I didn't feel this way until I came home one day. My GF had (finally!) pulled a book from the shelf to read. KJ has the killer cover and an un-intimidating looking length. But she was SHOOK. I think it's a brutal tale that tosses you in the deep end, and sometimes, that the type of reaction that ignites a desire for MORE. The recent deluxe edition of Under the Red Hood is absolutely incredible. Prefacing it with Death in the Family is optional, but not required, since Red Hood fills in all the important details. This is easily a contender for my top spot. It's funny, as I love Captain America, and the Winter Soldier arc was coming out at almost the same time. The central conceit of both stories are near identical. But rereading it recently made me realize just how well it holds up. It's a tale that's timeless and relatable. As a teen, I identified with the rebellious troublemaker hacking off heads in the story. But at 37, it's the idea of losing a child and having to live with it that is unfathomable. It's powerful stuff.
Wow! This response was well thought out and took a lot of effort! You really know your Batman comics! I totally get what you’re saying about Morrison - his stuff can be a bit heavy for newbies, but kudos for mentioning “Gothic” and “Arkham Asylum.” They’re classics. I liked Arkham Asylum but the art was to good at making me freaked out. Killing joke I use to love but as I’ve grown older ive liked it a lot less. Have you read Moores thoughts on how the book has aged? I think hush is fun, but the art is better than the story. I think it’s great that you know so much about Batman and have such strong opinions! What would your list be?
@@TBATB I know Moore doesn't think much of KJ. But he only wrote it as a favor to Brian Bolland. And that art is worth the read alone. Have you heard that idea that once art is out in the world, it no longer belongs to the artist? That's how I feel about the Alan Moore situation. He's a grump and eventually grows to hate everything 😆 the importance or impact of a piece isn't really up to them. If anything, the fact that Moore dislikes it almost makes me want to like it even harder just to spite him (if it wasn't already obvious, I'm not the guy's biggest fan. Just to illustrate, I own several thousand collected editions, but not one copy of Watchmen 😆 I've read and analyzed the crap out of it, but it's not something I'd ever pull off the shelf and start reading for pleasure. As far as a list of best/favorite stories, I'll have to get back to you. If you couldn't tell, this is the sort of thing I'd tear my hair out trying to figure out. But Red Hood is definitely on there. And Black Mirror. But then I'd want to add stuff like Batwoman, and that lacks the one thing to qualify 😆 So maybe it would have to be a Bat family list. Or maybe two lists. See? I'm already over complicating it. A list of books I'd recommend to new readers is the easiest, as we've already discussed most of those. So maybe three lists? I'm a mess, bro lol
I agree with a lot of your selection, including Tom King (I’m gonna get killed😅), but perhaps not in the same order. Quick question: You don’t have to protect hardcovers the same way you do regular comics? Like in a sealed comic bag?
An Absolute edition of Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum is coming out in August this year. I highly recommend this if you haven't read it already.
I have the deluxe, but I’ll definitely be upgrading now that it’s back in print! The art makes me uncomfortable but that’s the point and it’s definitely effective
There's still a lot I haven't read yet but right now I'd say my top ten is: 1. War Games (I know, controversial) 2. Alan Grant/Norm Breyfogle's run 3. Dead Reckoning 4. Detective Comics by James Tynion IV 5. A Lonely Place of Dying 6. Ed Brubaker's run 7. The Long Halloween 8. No Man's Land 9. Dark Moon Rising 10. Year One (And to be a bit more controversial, I'm not the biggest fan of Hush or Morrison's run, the latter in large part because I hate Damian, the former just because I don't think it's written well. I'm also not the biggest fan of The Killing Joke, and while I do enjoy TKR I don't think it's a good Batman comic. To close off the dishonorable mentions, while I don't dislike Snyder and Capulo's run, I do think it's strongly overrated).
I'm new to comics, and just ordered vol. 1 & 2 of the Grant Morrison omnibuses. I would love some more information on reading order, I know you said vol. 1, Final Crisis, vol. 2 then vol. 3, but where exactly do I stop to read Final Crisis? Thanks so much for the content!
Think I bought about 3 - 4 comics as a kid. Batman - Spiderman and posibly Superman, The Hulk or X Men, can't remember. I liked almost every Batman movie series since. I disliked every Spiderman movie but liked the comic as a kid.The rest as movies maybe, a hit or miss. Now I was looking for a game this winter and came across John Carpenters Rise of The Sludge God for the prequel, 1of 3 of Toxic Commando. I'm older so maybe I will try the kindle version lol. Maybe if I don't like one or the other like above, uh ya!...and our winter is like summer now so....no hurry. Maybe next winter....
Solid damn video! Batman is also my favorite superhero since I grew up with him in the animated shows, the movies with Clooney and Kilmer, and comics (which was No Man's Land and pushed me into collecting omnibuses). I'm going to save this and use it as I keep going with my collection! Thanks for what you do and keep it going. Also, Batman omni by Loeb and Sale was the first omni i read after buying it for over 120 in an airport before flying to Italy so i definitely overpaid for it. But I agree, it's a masterpiece. So damn good. I loved the whole thing.
Honestly, if you read and enjoyed the story and it brought joy to your heart then you didn’t overpay!!! Plus now you probably know better cheaper places to buy Omnis!!
@@TBATB solid point. And yes, I definitely do. Airports are horrible places to buy water, let alone an omni. My main go to is IST for sure. Then OPB even though they seem to be a little more expensive lately. Then CGN.
I’d recommend watching my every dc crisis omnibus video! My first book was final crisis so you don’t need anything but for the best experience I would say it’s best if you’ve done 4th world-crisis-infinite crisis-52-Batman Vol 1-Seven Soldiers-final crisis
Hey! Jordan films the videos and I do all the editing and thumbnails! This comment meant a lot to both of us because we both put a ton of effort into this channel and it means a lot that you like it!
For thumbnails I started on canvas which is great for learning basics. But I quickly out grew it. Photoshop is amazing but daunting. The best way to treat is like a giant garage full of tools. You don’t need to master every tool, but when you want to try something new you can learn one new tool at a time!
@@TBATB hi. Yeah I like the Morrison run if it’s a longer run. Batman by Loeb and Sale is superb. I like year 1 and the short book called Made of Wood. It was a good tie in with the old green lantern
That’s hard to answer. There is some portion that double dips but they are very different books. The Paul Dini is mostly anthology one off stories and his hear of hush story. The hush Omni is a much more liner book story. But if you own the Dini Omni and the hush story those combine double dip with almost half the hush omnibus. But then there’s still half that isn’t collected oversize anywhere else.
They are the four book deluxe set of Eagle Moss books that were only released in Europe. Sadly, Eagle Moss went bankrupt and the company no longer exist. However, the good news is DC finally announced an omnibus for murder and fugitive is coming out later this year.
My list is mostly older... and not in order of importance. It's always cool to share and read fellow comics favorites! 1. Gerry Conway's run with a lot of Don Newtons art. Eventually introduces Croc and the first incarnation of Jason Todd. 2. Ten Nights of the Beast - Jim Starlin and Jim Aparo art. 3. The Cult - Jim Starlin and Bernie Wrightson 4. Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle's Detective comics run. Lots of new and interesting villains introduced. 5. Killing Joke 6. Dark Knight returns 7. Batman #1 - I have the Famous First Edition reprint and that book is awesome. I have not read a lot of Golden Age books because they're old and expensive. However, the commonly reprinted stuff like, Superman, Captain Marvel and the Flash that I have read is, in my opinion, not as good as that book. 2 Joker stories, 1 Hugo Strange tale & the first Catwoman tale. Get a reprint! 8. Bob Haney and Jim Aparo on the Brave and the Bold. Even the stuff after Bob Haney left was good. 9. Batman vs the Incredible Hulk with art by the incomparable Jose Luis Garcia Lopez. In Treasury edition size. Any of those Treasury sized special editions from the 70's are great and filled with reprints from the 30's to the 70's. 10. The greatest Batman stories ever told. Another reprint book that is great for a newbie with choice stories. I'd also recommend Power records Batman stories. Some are just audio, but some were Book and Record sets with original stories and Neal Adams art. Just collect them for the "album" art! Here's a sample ua-cam.com/video/I-S5AadRE_c/v-deo.html
It's OK. I would add that if you're interested in the Gerry Conway stuff, those stories are collected in Tales of the Batman Gerry Conway volume 3. Take care-Mike
It's OK. I would add that if you're interested in the Gerry Conway stuff, those stories are collected in Tales of the Batman Gerry Conway volume 3. Take care-Mike
GDay Mate 👋 Great video and I agree with your selection of your Top 10 👍 I find these sort of Top 10 lists hard to do because there is such a varied back history catalogue to choose from, anyways good job with the video mate 🤘🔥🤘❤
Thank you so much friend! I know it was hard to make the list but I just thought about the 10 stories that meant the most to me! Do you have a top 3 for Batman?
Hmmm OK, at the moment for me I would say in no particular order, Knightfall, Year One, The Batman's Grave, Red Rain, BloodStorm, Black Mirror, Kings Of Fear and Batman Vs Ras Al Ghul by Neal Adams. Sorry bro there's a couple more but my brain is blanking me 🤣
Oh No Jake brother it's all good, in fact it is quite awesome to have some interaction feedback with the creators of the channel 🤘❤👍 The Joker War Saga, Road To No Man's Land and No Man's Land, Legacy belongs in my list as well 😉 The majority of Morrison's work as well as Synder's contribution to the Batman storylines are all top shelf in my humble opinion, also Chuck Dixon and Warren Ellis don't get the true acknowledgement of their Batman work which is quite sad because it is totally well deserved. Take Care TBATB familia 👍 and much love from the rainforest in Australia 👋🍻🤘❤
Boys i really need help. Where do i start in Batman comics. I have just bought year one, long halloween and ego and other tails. Where do i go now or is there anything i need to read between those?
Hey I have the perfect video! If you go to my shorts videos I list the order for most Batman books. But if we are just talking those three Year one - then I’d follow up with Man who laughs - then long Halloween than you can follow up with the direct sequel dark victory than you can read ego when ever you want! It’s not a direct follow up but it would be a great order!
- Batman by Grant Morrison for me has been the beginning of the end, the introduction of Damian Wayne led Tim Drake to an oblivion of uselessness in which he still is, ruined Talia that went from a great assassin tormented between the devotion to her father and the love for Batman to a mix between "I'm an evil empress wannabe" and "I'm Batman's ex-girlfriend AND i'm gonna ruin his life in the most bullshit way possible", Morrison is also the responsible for making Batman so over the top with things like Bruce implanting in himself a secret persona like he is freaking Professor Hugo Strange or beating Darkseid, Batman is an extremely good detective and fighter...that's it, no technology genius or smartest man in the universe like he is freaking Reed Richards. Also the Joker stuff was horrendous, with stories like Arkham Asylum Morrison basically opened the floodgate to any writer to essentially write Joker in whatever way the wanted assassinating the very concept of a characterization and it's pointless because he justifies that because "Well Joker had so many characterizations over the years that i had to find a solution and used his madness to explain it" ok, what about Penguin? He is sane, when captured he goes to Blackgate not Arkham but he had different characterizations during the years from intellettual gang leader in the Golden Age, buccaneer of birds in the Silver Age, gentleman thief during the Bronze Age, monstruos freak in the early 90's to nowadays boring mobster...how are you gonna explain this? - Batman by Scott Snyder is overrated, Zero Year is a very good Batman story that deserves the Absolute treatment, The Court and City of Owls is good but not a masterpiece due to the villain: a cabala of the most influential of Gotham, that run the city from the shadows and that have done so for decades maybe centuries is a very good concept but then, in order to accomplish ANYTHING, these guys need to use ninja zombies that wear an owl suit and that are frozen/unfrozen after/before their mission...WTF? Talons are a very idiotic concept especially tied to this serious and dark threat of the Court (moreover the Thomas Wayne Jr. thing seems something taken out from the most generic spanish soap-opera ever), Endgame is so over-the-top with Batman beating every Jokerized member of the Justice League that is simply ludicrous. - Tom King is a contender for worst Batman writer ever, at least Morrison wrote Gothic, Arkham Asylum (yeah it has some problems but with the interpretation of "It's all a dream" they can be forgotten) and some good elements in his run (like the introduction of Professor Pyg). King has nothing, there is no good narrative arc, no masterpiece, not even a good story for a villain (the things he has done to Riddler are atrocious)...and he turned Bruce into this pathetic, melodramatic, constantly weeping buffoon that slaps Tim for trying to comfort him after the whole Catwoman affair (moreover the fact that he had to ask for Catwoman's help for both Bane and Thomas Wayne is ridicolous, when i saw Batman say to Catwoman "break him" and she goes to defeat Thomas i was laughing my ass off, seemed a Pokemon battle, it just lacked "Cat i choose you"). Absolutely not a recommend, there's a reason why DC diminished Tom King's contract from 105 issues to 85 and why, to this day, there are no omnibus of this run: it was crap and it didn't sold
@@TBATB huge fan of the Dennis O'Neil era as as an editor (especially with Moench, Dixon and Grant on Batman, Detective Comics and Shadow of the Bat). Milligan of that era is also great too. Previous Crisis on Infinite Earths i would say Dennis O'Neil (Top 3 greatest Batman writers), Steve Englehart (i know it's not exactly a run but man Englehart's Strange Apparitions is peak) and Len Wein (that guy was very good with Batman in a horror setting, it's a shame now he will never write that Tweedledum and Tweedledee story he had in mind), post 2000 i would say Brubaker with solid Batman stories and extremely good Gotham Central and Catwoman (before she got ruined by King), Paul Dini for remaining true to the characters (with a bit of very dark stories for guys like Mr.Zsasz and Firefly) and Tomasi was good (but i didn't like what he did with Mr.Freeze)
It's not too often you see someone who wasn't the biggest fan of Morrison or Snyder either (though I actually really liked a lot of what King did lol). Though with Snyder I do think the court of owls was a very solid arc that earns its acclaim, it's just it went so downhill after that.
@@Joenah5 i believe Morrison is acclaimed more for the fact that he is Morrison so when there is something so over the top that is ridiculous people just think "Well it's Morrison, it surely makes sense it's just me, i am too stupid to understand it" while for Snyder i am sure that everyone that describe his run as one of the greatest for the character simply started to read Batman with the New 52 due to the fact that it was a total reboot of the DC universe and wanted to start reading Batman, therefore, being their first run, they defend it till the end. Still i acknowledge some good stories to both: - Grant Morrison has Gothic and Arkham Asylum (if read thinking that the story is all a dream) - Snyder has Black Mirror, Zero Year that are awesome while Court of Owls and City of Owls compose a good narrative arc but it's not a masterpiece for any stretch of the imagination (the main villain is a mess while all that thing about Thomas Wayne Jr is so corny and stupid that seems a mix between a Silver Age story of Batman and an episode of Beautiful), i haven't read Gates of Gotham so maybe it is another good story. For Tom King mate absolutely nope, worst Batman writer ever (even more than Mike Barr), there is literally no good story in his run and i have read Killing Time and One Bad Day too and they're shit with the last one possibly being Riddler worst story, Penguin is my favourite enemy and when i saw in his series, written by King, Amanda Waller saying all that bullshit about Penguin being the only man even Batman couldn't put behind bars i rolled my eyes and thought "of course, he has become a freaking mob boss, it's like saying that Kingpin is the villain Spider-man fears the most because he can make all evidence and witnesses disappear when in his rogue's gallery you have guys like Carnage or Green Goblin" and stopped reading. He writes everyone out of character
I stopped buying Batman when Grant Morrison started the Zur en Argh story. I hated that his Batman was insane. Came back when Dick Grayson was Batman and still didn't enjoy it so I dropped it again. When Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo took over is one of my favorite Batman runs. But I really didn't like Metal or Death Metal. Love Batman Adventures. I haven't read Detective Comics Rebirth but I do own the Omnibus, must read it. My sister bought Tom Kings run monthly, I got to read it... I loved some stories, hated others, not in my top anything. I enjoyed Black Mirror. I loved Year One. Hush is probably in my top 3. I like Dark Knight Returns, definitely a must read. Long Halloween and Dark Victory are Amazing! It took me a while to get into the Tim Sale art but I love it now. Knightfall was the story that got me into Batman Comics. I loved the whole No Mans Land era of comics. and one of my favorites that doesn't get much love is Batman Venom, where Batman gets addicted to the stuff that Bane uses.
I'm the biggest Batman collected there is but Tom King destroyed the character he made him into a soy boy getting beat up by Harley Quinn and Catwoman getting pumped out by women That's a joke Bruce Wayne would never lose a fight to a woman
So that's... Sexist, and if you knew anything about Batman, you'd know Lady Shiva has laid him out cold numerous times. And she's... A woman. Get over yourself.
Why are you picking all the modern books what about strange apparitions what about all the great stories from the bronze age that was Batman when he lived in the penthouse in Gotham City when he didn't have the batcave those are some of the great Batman stories of all time that was Batman that is true self when he was a swashbuckling superhero not this god-like figure that can take down dark side That's not Batman he should never be on that power level Batman is a street level superhero who can be it on adventures like that when he's with the Justice League but Batman should never be able to just sit in the bat cave and decide to take off to apocalypse just because he can like he's done before That's so stupid
I think you bring up an excellent point I’ve definitely read more modern books being that I’m young and I’ve only read comics for a few years, so if you have any suggestions of older Batman books, I should check out I definitely will!
@@TBATB hey brother thank you for responding yeah number one on the list of '70s and '80s Brand age stories is definitely strange apparitions it might be the best Batman story ever and then there's a one shot called night of the stalker detective comics 439 One of the best single issue Batman comics of all time is the definitive version that shows you why the criminals are afraid of Batman it's just a great great story and it's written by Steve engelhardt the same guy that wrote strange apparitions and then you got your ras al ghoul stories all through the '70s the Denny O'Neill Neil Adams stuff The only thing about stories from back then though you almost have to just go by the individual issues which is all I collect anyway because they didn't do the long story lines like that back then it would be more like a couple issues and then that's it and then it would pick back up maybe 10 issues later That's how the Denny O'Neil Neil Adams stuff is it's never like 20 issues in a row or anything like that so it's hard to single out an individual trade to tell you to get or anything but the John Byrne Batman origin from 1980 untold legend of the Batman awesome story and of course you got like the joker's five-way revenge but these are stories you probably want to pick up in a trade because they're rather expensive if you go buying the actual comics again I don't buy trades but I understand a lot of people do but there's just some awesome stories from back then but again not like they are now they're not like long drawn out stories that take 3 years to tell or anything like that now strange apparitions goes like eight issues though so it was one of the longer ones from the bronze age but when you read it you'll see what I'm talking about just an absolutely phenomenal story it's more like the definitive Batman that you see what most people think of that don't even read comics that think of Batman
@@TBATB also there's the no hope on crime alley issue that's an individual issue from I think detective 500 but don't hold me to that you'd have to look it up
I think Frank Miller wrote The Dark Knight Strikes Again that way on purpose. He thought: "I wrote the best Batman story ever, now I'm gonna write the worst ever, just for fun!"
It has to be it’s so intentionally bad!
Dude wrote 2 of the best batman stories with dark knight returns and batman year one lol
He's also written the best daredevil stories,cin city and ect no way did he fuck up strikes again he did that shit on purpose.
The worst batman story is all star batman and robin also written by frank miller
I could see that tbh
It was bold of you to put Year Two as your number one pick, Omar would be proud.
We need an absolute year 2
dark victory and serious house on serious earth are 2 of my favorites due to their unique art styles
A serious house is one of the last absolutes I need and it’s been reprinted super soon!
My Personal Favorite Batman Stories:
1. Strange Apparitions
2. Ego
3. War on Crime
4. Night of the Stalker
5. Blind Justice
6. Night Cries
7. Death of The Innocents
8. Ultimate Evil
9. Going Sane
10. Birth of the Demon
I need to read ego!
I like most of stories on your list. The white knight series is also fantastic, which I've read recently.
That is a great book!
Batman Under the Red Hood was a big one for me.
I only just started reading Batman comics and Year One is criminally short. It seems like the perfect jumping off point until you realize its 4 issues and youre left lost and unsure where to read from there lol
I could help with that friend. Whatever you do, don’t read Batman year two next. I would follow up Batman year one with Ed Brubaker the man who laughs, followed by Batman by Jeff Loeb and Tim sale.
@@TBATB great, thank you!! I did start reading year two but wasn’t feeling it. I’ll be giving those a read next
I haven't read Batman comics yet, but I have the one that my cousin gave me but I would love to buy it once I'm done reading the one that my cousin gave me whenever If I'm ready to read the one that my cousin gave me
Very nice collection.. love batman ❤️. The background music is very annoying, particularly that sound
Thank you for the feedback! I think I have gotten better with recent videos
I agree with number one for sure, the long Halloween and dark victory are fantastic! I still need to read dinis Batman omnibus which is on my shelf lol
I don't even let my Batman comics see the shelf until I've read them 😅
Placing Rebirth stuff in here is awesome. I’ve never seen a YT channel add that to a top 10
Wow, thanks!
Batman much like Spider-Man has always been my fav superhero but i never got to read comics, (finally got marvel comic app to read Spider-Man & daredevil) but I want physical copies of Batman’s. My parents actually bought me the “dark knight true story” book a few years ago and I have yet to read it but I will now before I actually buy a comic, knowing a lot more about Batman I had no idea it’s a very personal story to Paul Dini! I will definitely have to check out the BTAS tie in comic as well! Thanks for the recommendations!
If you are looking for a cost-effective place to start DC has started printing books and what’s called the compact comic line. It’s $10 for a full story and so far for Batman. They have hush and court of owls both excellent places to start.
What about Batman killing joke?
Can you recommend which one should i read? I know nothing about Batman and even DC or marvel
Hey dude! I am happy to help. I think the best Batman 3 books to start with are Batman Year One, Batman The Long Halloween or Batman the Court Of Owls!
Killing joke is also good and can be read after year one or on its own.
If you have any questions feel free to ask and we also have a discord!
I feel like not having knight fall on the list is real bad. A lot of the books you pick not even 20 years old.
Maybe I should do another version of the list with books that are older! Good idea!
Putting Morrison that low is a bummer. But props for putting it up at all. It is certainly not "new reader friendly" maybe past the first 4 issues.
Though unconnected, I'd certainly add Gothic, and most importantly, Arkham Asylum. While Final Crisis is a favorite, It's not necessary if you're only reading his Batman, as all relevant parts are shown in flashback in the issues from the "Time and the Batman" book.
I've never heard that Zero Year was mandated. I know that Scott didn't want to undo Year One. But it was getting harder to work around it.
If you're gonna count all of Morrison as one spot, I see no need to treat Snyder any different. Makes room for more recommendations.
Also, the hate Superheavy gets is ridiculous. It's easily the best Gordon story, and ranks second for me in Snyder Batman work, only behind Black Mirror.
Many good bits from New 52 Batman were contributions from Tynion. Lest we forget that the two storied both weekly series, with James listed first. I imagine getting Rebirth Detective was a "thank you" for keeping that Bat-train a-rollin' in Scott's absence.
I just wish he'd had the same enthusiasm when he finally got on Batman proper. He seemed pretty jaded by that point, and jumped prematurely when Substack proved to be profitable.
I certainly don't hate Tom King's run like some do, but I don't love it either. I mean, the best issue of the whole Bat/Cat thing was written by the other Tom! It's funny that the dream stuff gets dunked on so much. The Professor Pyg issue is my favorite of the 85!
But now he is constantly extending his work with the characters and world of Gotham. And I just can't get excited for any of it. I wanted Batman/Catwoman, but by the time it finally became available in a collected format, I just wasn't jazzed enough to buy it, nor have I since.
Again, to consolidate and expand, I'd just make a Frank Miller spot. Explain which books you like and which ones you hate. His stuff is all kinds of quality. I'm the world's biggest All-Star Batman fan. Anyone that takes it seriously seems to overlook how beautifully farcical it is.
But no doubt, Dark Knight Returns and Year One are a lovely juxtaposition. Write the last Batman story ever, followed by the first. Few get to do that. Snyder did with Zero Year and Last Knight on Earth. My favorite is Morrison doing All-Star Superman then New 52 Action.
Dini's Hush trilogy is an absolute must if you read the original story. Hush is a fun jump on title because of how much it features of Batman's universe. But the twists fall pretty flat. Dini retroactively made him one of the best of the Rogues gallery.
But to mention some extra Loeb that IS solid start to finish AND fun as hell is his work on Superman/Batman. I recommend this title to new readers all the time that have an interest in both characters.
Certainly some surprising omissions! Despite being a Joker story, I think Killing Joke is an essential read. I especially recommend it to non-comic fans FIRST. I didn't feel this way until I came home one day.
My GF had (finally!) pulled a book from the shelf to read. KJ has the killer cover and an un-intimidating looking length. But she was SHOOK. I think it's a brutal tale that tosses you in the deep end, and sometimes, that the type of reaction that ignites a desire for MORE.
The recent deluxe edition of Under the Red Hood is absolutely incredible. Prefacing it with Death in the Family is optional, but not required, since Red Hood fills in all the important details. This is easily a contender for my top spot.
It's funny, as I love Captain America, and the Winter Soldier arc was coming out at almost the same time. The central conceit of both stories are near identical.
But rereading it recently made me realize just how well it holds up. It's a tale that's timeless and relatable. As a teen, I identified with the rebellious troublemaker hacking off heads in the story. But at 37, it's the idea of losing a child and having to live with it that is unfathomable. It's powerful stuff.
Wow! This response was well thought out and took a lot of effort!
You really know your Batman comics! I totally get what you’re saying about Morrison - his stuff can be a bit heavy for newbies, but kudos for mentioning “Gothic” and “Arkham Asylum.” They’re classics. I liked Arkham Asylum but the art was to good at making me freaked out.
Killing joke I use to love but as I’ve grown older ive liked it a lot less. Have you read Moores thoughts on how the book has aged?
I think hush is fun, but the art is better than the story.
I think it’s great that you know so much about Batman and have such strong opinions!
What would your list be?
@@TBATB I know Moore doesn't think much of KJ. But he only wrote it as a favor to Brian Bolland. And that art is worth the read alone. Have you heard that idea that once art is out in the world, it no longer belongs to the artist? That's how I feel about the Alan Moore situation. He's a grump and eventually grows to hate everything 😆 the importance or impact of a piece isn't really up to them. If anything, the fact that Moore dislikes it almost makes me want to like it even harder just to spite him (if it wasn't already obvious, I'm not the guy's biggest fan. Just to illustrate, I own several thousand collected editions, but not one copy of Watchmen 😆 I've read and analyzed the crap out of it, but it's not something I'd ever pull off the shelf and start reading for pleasure.
As far as a list of best/favorite stories, I'll have to get back to you. If you couldn't tell, this is the sort of thing I'd tear my hair out trying to figure out. But Red Hood is definitely on there. And Black Mirror. But then I'd want to add stuff like Batwoman, and that lacks the one thing to qualify 😆 So maybe it would have to be a Bat family list. Or maybe two lists. See? I'm already over complicating it.
A list of books I'd recommend to new readers is the easiest, as we've already discussed most of those. So maybe three lists? I'm a mess, bro lol
I agree with a lot of your selection, including Tom King (I’m gonna get killed😅), but perhaps not in the same order. Quick question: You don’t have to protect hardcovers the same way you do regular comics? Like in a sealed comic bag?
Nope! They are safe on a shelf, and they don’t have the ads inside. Some of the reasons I switched from regular comics!
An Absolute edition of Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum is coming out in August this year. I highly recommend this if you haven't read it already.
I have the deluxe, but I’ll definitely be upgrading now that it’s back in print! The art makes me uncomfortable but that’s the point and it’s definitely effective
perfect content. Thumbs up, one comment your content has spoiler !!!!!!
Sorry! I’ll be better at warnings next time!
Which one should i read first paul dinis omnibus or hush hc?
Read hush first!
What bookshelves do you have in the background?
Ilea Kallax
@@TBATB thanks man!
Solid list, dude, but that background music's gotta go. I feel like I'm 43rd in the on hold queue while calling my doctor for test results...
I’ve tried to get better at mixing!
Agreed, dialogue is king, duck everything else down.
There's still a lot I haven't read yet but right now I'd say my top ten is:
1. War Games (I know, controversial)
2. Alan Grant/Norm Breyfogle's run
3. Dead Reckoning
4. Detective Comics by James Tynion IV
5. A Lonely Place of Dying
6. Ed Brubaker's run
7. The Long Halloween
8. No Man's Land
9. Dark Moon Rising
10. Year One
(And to be a bit more controversial, I'm not the biggest fan of Hush or Morrison's run, the latter in large part because I hate Damian, the former just because I don't think it's written well. I'm also not the biggest fan of The Killing Joke, and while I do enjoy TKR I don't think it's a good Batman comic. To close off the dishonorable mentions, while I don't dislike Snyder and Capulo's run, I do think it's strongly overrated).
Idk why more people aren't talking about war games. I really liked it but it seems like it's just not as cherished.
I'm new to comics, and just ordered vol. 1 & 2 of the Grant Morrison omnibuses. I would love some more information on reading order, I know you said vol. 1, Final Crisis, vol. 2 then vol. 3, but where exactly do I stop to read Final Crisis? Thanks so much for the content!
If I remember correctly you should pause Batman Vol 1 at Batman issue 682, read final crisis and then finish vol 1 and go to volume 2
Think I bought about 3 - 4 comics as a kid. Batman - Spiderman and posibly Superman, The Hulk or X Men, can't remember.
I liked almost every Batman movie series since. I disliked every Spiderman movie but liked the comic as a kid.The rest as movies maybe, a hit or miss. Now I was looking for a game this winter and came across John Carpenters Rise of The Sludge God for the prequel, 1of 3 of Toxic Commando. I'm older so maybe I will try the kindle version lol. Maybe if I don't like one or the other like above, uh ya!...and our winter is like summer now so....no hurry. Maybe next winter....
Batman is the best!
Not a fan of joker? Whatt?
It’s just hard to top the joker from the animated series!
Solid damn video! Batman is also my favorite superhero since I grew up with him in the animated shows, the movies with Clooney and Kilmer, and comics (which was No Man's Land and pushed me into collecting omnibuses).
I'm going to save this and use it as I keep going with my collection! Thanks for what you do and keep it going.
Also, Batman omni by Loeb and Sale was the first omni i read after buying it for over 120 in an airport before flying to Italy so i definitely overpaid for it. But I agree, it's a masterpiece. So damn good. I loved the whole thing.
Honestly, if you read and enjoyed the story and it brought joy to your heart then you didn’t overpay!!! Plus now you probably know better cheaper places to buy Omnis!!
@@TBATB solid point. And yes, I definitely do. Airports are horrible places to buy water, let alone an omni. My main go to is IST for sure. Then OPB even though they seem to be a little more expensive lately. Then CGN.
I'm glad someone else is as high as The Rise and Fall of the Batmen as me!!
It’s my favorite bat family book, favorite clay face book, and favorite batwomen book!
I really like the commentary, please for the love of Joker get different background music. It's distracting and annoying in my opinion.
What would you suggest?
Now do I need to read anything else to be able to read Final Crisis or is just Batman Grant Morrison vol 1 enough
I’d recommend watching my every dc crisis omnibus video! My first book was final crisis so you don’t need anything but for the best experience I would say it’s best if you’ve done 4th world-crisis-infinite crisis-52-Batman Vol 1-Seven Soldiers-final crisis
Jake, who does the editing of your videos? I like the production value of the picture inserts & thumbnails
Hey! Jordan films the videos and I do all the editing and thumbnails! This comment meant a lot to both of us because we both put a ton of effort into this channel and it means a lot that you like it!
What program or app do you use for thumbnails?
For thumbnails I started on canvas which is great for learning basics. But I quickly out grew it. Photoshop is amazing but daunting. The best way to treat is like a giant garage full of tools. You don’t need to master every tool, but when you want to try something new you can learn one new tool at a time!
black mirror is not that good, but everything else was on point
Interesting, what did you not like about it?
Great video. Have you done a top 10 best Superman comics?
Coming soon!
Mega content and love your choices.
Do you have a favorite??
@@TBATB hi. Yeah I like the Morrison run if it’s a longer run. Batman by Loeb and Sale is superb. I like year 1 and the short book called Made of Wood. It was a good tie in with the old green lantern
Should i buy paul dini omnibus and hush hardcover or will i be double dipping???
That’s hard to answer. There is some portion that double dips but they are very different books. The Paul Dini is mostly anthology one off stories and his hear of hush story. The hush Omni is a much more liner book story. But if you own the Dini Omni and the hush story those combine double dip with almost half the hush omnibus. But then there’s still half that isn’t collected oversize anywhere else.
Amazing list, but I will definitely substitute Batman by Snyder to “dark knight dark city” and Batman by Tom king to Batman the cult.
Those are excellent choices! Did they ever make a OHC of Cult?
Not yet. Hope for an absolute 😊
SOLIDDDDDDD bro. Bats have so many amazing stories. Snyder's run was a breath of fresh air for me. Dope list man.
I miss you!!!! I’d love to see your list someday!
@@TBATB miss you too man ! Will make one, one day.
Where you get the Batman murder books I see there are 4 of them? Are they hardcover ? Where can I I get them
They are the four book deluxe set of Eagle Moss books that were only released in Europe. Sadly, Eagle Moss went bankrupt and the company no longer exist. However, the good news is DC finally announced an omnibus for murder and fugitive is coming out later this year.
Your videos and explanations are great, and I'm giving them a thumb up like, but the background music is quite distracting!
I tried to balance background music for months before I finally gave up the fight haha. I no longer use anything.
@@TBATB I'll check out your newer videos. Thank you!
Brave and bold
How much of the first Omni do i have to read before switching over to Final Crisis?
I would read all of it! The last page in the Omni will mention what happens in final crisis so skip it!
@@TBATB thank you!!!
The music under this video is an absolute punish.
I know I wish I could fix it. I hadn’t learned proper mastering yet. If you watch my recent videos it’s ducked properly.
My list is mostly older... and not in order of importance. It's always cool to share and read fellow comics favorites!
1. Gerry Conway's run with a lot of Don Newtons art. Eventually introduces Croc and the first incarnation of Jason Todd.
2. Ten Nights of the Beast - Jim Starlin and Jim Aparo art.
3. The Cult - Jim Starlin and Bernie Wrightson
4. Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle's Detective comics run. Lots of new and interesting villains introduced.
5. Killing Joke
6. Dark Knight returns
7. Batman #1 - I have the Famous First Edition reprint and that book is awesome. I have not read a lot of Golden Age books because they're old and expensive. However, the commonly reprinted stuff like, Superman, Captain Marvel and the Flash that I have read is, in my opinion, not as good as that book. 2 Joker stories, 1 Hugo Strange tale & the first Catwoman tale. Get a reprint!
8. Bob Haney and Jim Aparo on the Brave and the Bold. Even the stuff after Bob Haney left was good.
9. Batman vs the Incredible Hulk with art by the incomparable Jose Luis Garcia Lopez. In Treasury edition size. Any of those Treasury sized special editions from the 70's are great and filled with reprints from the 30's to the 70's.
10. The greatest Batman stories ever told. Another reprint book that is great for a newbie with choice stories.
I'd also recommend Power records Batman stories. Some are just audio, but some were Book and Record sets with original stories and Neal Adams art. Just collect them for the "album" art! Here's a sample ua-cam.com/video/I-S5AadRE_c/v-deo.html
I am sorry it took so long to reply!!! I am going to search for some of these books!
It's OK. I would add that if you're interested in the Gerry Conway stuff, those stories are collected in Tales of the Batman Gerry Conway volume 3. Take care-Mike
It's OK. I would add that if you're interested in the Gerry Conway stuff, those stories are collected in Tales of the Batman Gerry Conway volume 3. Take care-Mike
Where in the Grant Morrison Omni Vol1 do you jump to final crisis then back?
I would just read all the volume one and then read final crisis
@@TBATB thank you !!!
GDay Mate 👋 Great video and I agree with your selection of your Top 10 👍 I find these sort of Top 10 lists hard to do because there is such a varied back history catalogue to choose from, anyways good job with the video mate 🤘🔥🤘❤
Thank you so much friend! I know it was hard to make the list but I just thought about the 10 stories that meant the most to me! Do you have a top 3 for Batman?
Hmmm OK, at the moment for me I would say in no particular order, Knightfall, Year One, The Batman's Grave, Red Rain, BloodStorm, Black Mirror, Kings Of Fear and Batman Vs Ras Al Ghul by Neal Adams.
Sorry bro there's a couple more but my brain is blanking me 🤣
@@kjb1336 I didn’t mean to put you on the spot! I think that’s a great list!
Oh No Jake brother it's all good, in fact it is quite awesome to have some interaction feedback with the creators of the channel 🤘❤👍
The Joker War Saga, Road To No Man's Land and No Man's Land, Legacy belongs in my list as well 😉
The majority of Morrison's work as well as Synder's contribution to the Batman storylines are all top shelf in my humble opinion, also Chuck Dixon and Warren Ellis don't get the true acknowledgement of their Batman work which is quite sad because it is totally well deserved.
Take Care TBATB familia 👍 and much love from the rainforest in Australia 👋🍻🤘❤
Great video. I love a lot of these stories. dark Knight returns and I am Bane got me into comics and collecting.
Thank you! What are you currently reading?
Boys i really need help. Where do i start in Batman comics. I have just bought year one, long halloween and ego and other tails. Where do i go now or is there anything i need to read between those?
Hey I have the perfect video! If you go to my shorts videos I list the order for most Batman books.
But if we are just talking those three
Year one - then I’d follow up with Man who laughs - then long Halloween than you can follow up with the direct sequel dark victory than you can read ego when ever you want! It’s not a direct follow up but it would be a great order!
Thank you very much, i will go watch that :) @@TBATB
Long Halloween is the best Batman story I've read, ever.
Have you read Dark Victory? Also did you hear we are getting the Last Halloween?
@@TBATB I have Dark Victory on paperback, but haven't. And I didn't know about Last Halloween. It sounds promising!
That Batman Adventures Omni is so damn good 🔥
Always an honor when the GOAT comments on my videos 🥺
@@TBATB 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
What about batman eternal?
Love it but I only had 10 spots!
Bro we need more videos like this
What did you like most about this video?
@@TBATB The editing and the recommendations
- Batman by Grant Morrison for me has been the beginning of the end, the introduction of Damian Wayne led Tim Drake to an oblivion of uselessness in which he still is, ruined Talia that went from a great assassin tormented between the devotion to her father and the love for Batman to a mix between "I'm an evil empress wannabe" and "I'm Batman's ex-girlfriend AND i'm gonna ruin his life in the most bullshit way possible", Morrison is also the responsible for making Batman so over the top with things like Bruce implanting in himself a secret persona like he is freaking Professor Hugo Strange or beating Darkseid, Batman is an extremely good detective and fighter...that's it, no technology genius or smartest man in the universe like he is freaking Reed Richards.
Also the Joker stuff was horrendous, with stories like Arkham Asylum Morrison basically opened the floodgate to any writer to essentially write Joker in whatever way the wanted assassinating the very concept of a characterization and it's pointless because he justifies that because "Well Joker had so many characterizations over the years that i had to find a solution and used his madness to explain it" ok, what about Penguin? He is sane, when captured he goes to Blackgate not Arkham but he had different characterizations during the years from intellettual gang leader in the Golden Age, buccaneer of birds in the Silver Age, gentleman thief during the Bronze Age, monstruos freak in the early 90's to nowadays boring mobster...how are you gonna explain this?
- Batman by Scott Snyder is overrated, Zero Year is a very good Batman story that deserves the Absolute treatment, The Court and City of Owls is good but not a masterpiece due to the villain: a cabala of the most influential of Gotham, that run the city from the shadows and that have done so for decades maybe centuries is a very good concept but then, in order to accomplish ANYTHING, these guys need to use ninja zombies that wear an owl suit and that are frozen/unfrozen after/before their mission...WTF? Talons are a very idiotic concept especially tied to this serious and dark threat of the Court (moreover the Thomas Wayne Jr. thing seems something taken out from the most generic spanish soap-opera ever), Endgame is so over-the-top with Batman beating every Jokerized member of the Justice League that is simply ludicrous.
- Tom King is a contender for worst Batman writer ever, at least Morrison wrote Gothic, Arkham Asylum (yeah it has some problems but with the interpretation of "It's all a dream" they can be forgotten) and some good elements in his run (like the introduction of Professor Pyg).
King has nothing, there is no good narrative arc, no masterpiece, not even a good story for a villain (the things he has done to Riddler are atrocious)...and he turned Bruce into this pathetic, melodramatic, constantly weeping buffoon that slaps Tim for trying to comfort him after the whole Catwoman affair (moreover the fact that he had to ask for Catwoman's help for both Bane and Thomas Wayne is ridicolous, when i saw Batman say to Catwoman "break him" and she goes to defeat Thomas i was laughing my ass off, seemed a Pokemon battle, it just lacked "Cat i choose you"). Absolutely not a recommend, there's a reason why DC diminished Tom King's contract from 105 issues to 85 and why, to this day, there are no omnibus of this run: it was crap and it didn't sold
This is awesome I love hearing other peoples opinions and feedback! Can I hear what Batman runs you do enjoy? 😊
@@TBATB huge fan of the Dennis O'Neil era as as an editor (especially with Moench, Dixon and Grant on Batman, Detective Comics and Shadow of the Bat).
Milligan of that era is also great too.
Previous Crisis on Infinite Earths i would say Dennis O'Neil (Top 3 greatest Batman writers), Steve Englehart (i know it's not exactly a run but man Englehart's Strange Apparitions is peak) and Len Wein (that guy was very good with Batman in a horror setting, it's a shame now he will never write that Tweedledum and Tweedledee story he had in mind), post 2000 i would say Brubaker with solid Batman stories and extremely good Gotham Central and Catwoman (before she got ruined by King), Paul Dini for remaining true to the characters (with a bit of very dark stories for guys like Mr.Zsasz and Firefly) and Tomasi was good (but i didn't like what he did with Mr.Freeze)
It's not too often you see someone who wasn't the biggest fan of Morrison or Snyder either (though I actually really liked a lot of what King did lol). Though with Snyder I do think the court of owls was a very solid arc that earns its acclaim, it's just it went so downhill after that.
@@Joenah5 i believe Morrison is acclaimed more for the fact that he is Morrison so when there is something so over the top that is ridiculous people just think "Well it's Morrison, it surely makes sense it's just me, i am too stupid to understand it" while for Snyder i am sure that everyone that describe his run as one of the greatest for the character simply started to read Batman with the New 52 due to the fact that it was a total reboot of the DC universe and wanted to start reading Batman, therefore, being their first run, they defend it till the end.
Still i acknowledge some good stories to both:
- Grant Morrison has Gothic and Arkham Asylum (if read thinking that the story is all a dream)
- Snyder has Black Mirror, Zero Year that are awesome while Court of Owls and City of Owls compose a good narrative arc but it's not a masterpiece for any stretch of the imagination (the main villain is a mess while all that thing about Thomas Wayne Jr is so corny and stupid that seems a mix between a Silver Age story of Batman and an episode of Beautiful), i haven't read Gates of Gotham so maybe it is another good story.
For Tom King mate absolutely nope, worst Batman writer ever (even more than Mike Barr), there is literally no good story in his run and i have read Killing Time and One Bad Day too and they're shit with the last one possibly being Riddler worst story, Penguin is my favourite enemy and when i saw in his series, written by King, Amanda Waller saying all that bullshit about Penguin being the only man even Batman couldn't put behind bars i rolled my eyes and thought "of course, he has become a freaking mob boss, it's like saying that Kingpin is the villain Spider-man fears the most because he can make all evidence and witnesses disappear when in his rogue's gallery you have guys like Carnage or Green Goblin" and stopped reading.
He writes everyone out of character
Solid list.
Glad you think so! Do you have a top 3 Batman comics?
Your choice but BS in my opinion
What would you choose?
I stopped buying Batman when Grant Morrison started the Zur en Argh story. I hated that his Batman was insane. Came back when Dick Grayson was Batman and still didn't enjoy it so I dropped it again. When Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo took over is one of my favorite Batman runs. But I really didn't like Metal or Death Metal. Love Batman Adventures. I haven't read Detective Comics Rebirth but I do own the Omnibus, must read it. My sister bought Tom Kings run monthly, I got to read it... I loved some stories, hated others, not in my top anything. I enjoyed Black Mirror. I loved Year One. Hush is probably in my top 3. I like Dark Knight Returns, definitely a must read. Long Halloween and Dark Victory are Amazing! It took me a while to get into the Tim Sale art but I love it now. Knightfall was the story that got me into Batman Comics. I loved the whole No Mans Land era of comics. and one of my favorites that doesn't get much love is Batman Venom, where Batman gets addicted to the stuff that Bane uses.
Thank you so much for your thoughts! I hope we get a deluxe of venom. I’ve wanted to read it for a while!
I learned my lesson with Tom King after reading Batman: Killing Time, and that lesson was... don't bother with anything Tom is involved with.
If that is your only Tom king story I’d recommend watching my Tom king video. Mr. Miricle, up in the sky and supergirl are all awesome!
Not a fan of the Morrison nor the Kings run. Kings run was really bad.
What runs do you like?
@@TBATB The Dixon run was excellent. Year One and Returns were top notch. I'm just not a big fan of those two.
I'm the biggest Batman collected there is but Tom King destroyed the character he made him into a soy boy getting beat up by Harley Quinn and Catwoman getting pumped out by women That's a joke Bruce Wayne would never lose a fight to a woman
So that's... Sexist, and if you knew anything about Batman, you'd know Lady Shiva has laid him out cold numerous times. And she's... A woman. Get over yourself.
Why are you picking all the modern books what about strange apparitions what about all the great stories from the bronze age that was Batman when he lived in the penthouse in Gotham City when he didn't have the batcave those are some of the great Batman stories of all time that was Batman that is true self when he was a swashbuckling superhero not this god-like figure that can take down dark side That's not Batman he should never be on that power level Batman is a street level superhero who can be it on adventures like that when he's with the Justice League but Batman should never be able to just sit in the bat cave and decide to take off to apocalypse just because he can like he's done before That's so stupid
I think you bring up an excellent point I’ve definitely read more modern books being that I’m young and I’ve only read comics for a few years, so if you have any suggestions of older Batman books, I should check out I definitely will!
@@TBATB hey brother thank you for responding yeah number one on the list of '70s and '80s Brand age stories is definitely strange apparitions it might be the best Batman story ever and then there's a one shot called night of the stalker detective comics 439 One of the best single issue Batman comics of all time is the definitive version that shows you why the criminals are afraid of Batman it's just a great great story and it's written by Steve engelhardt the same guy that wrote strange apparitions and then you got your ras al ghoul stories all through the '70s the Denny O'Neill Neil Adams stuff The only thing about stories from back then though you almost have to just go by the individual issues which is all I collect anyway because they didn't do the long story lines like that back then it would be more like a couple issues and then that's it and then it would pick back up maybe 10 issues later That's how the Denny O'Neil Neil Adams stuff is it's never like 20 issues in a row or anything like that so it's hard to single out an individual trade to tell you to get or anything but the John Byrne Batman origin from 1980 untold legend of the Batman awesome story and of course you got like the joker's five-way revenge but these are stories you probably want to pick up in a trade because they're rather expensive if you go buying the actual comics again I don't buy trades but I understand a lot of people do but there's just some awesome stories from back then but again not like they are now they're not like long drawn out stories that take 3 years to tell or anything like that now strange apparitions goes like eight issues though so it was one of the longer ones from the bronze age but when you read it you'll see what I'm talking about just an absolutely phenomenal story it's more like the definitive Batman that you see what most people think of that don't even read comics that think of Batman
@@TBATB also there's the no hope on crime alley issue that's an individual issue from I think detective 500 but don't hold me to that you'd have to look it up
I don’t like Robin in Batman stories. I’ve yet to find an omnibus without Robin in it 😢