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Some really cool kits I've seen lately have been 30 Minute Miniatures (every single on looks cool and you can easily change pieces for different it like a make-your-own-mecha), Metal Robots has put some really incredible looking highly detailed metal kits and last I forgot the company that makes them but the OBSOLETE mechs are some of the coolest new designs I've seen in years (the models are from the UA-cam show OBSOLETE).
Here in Singapore there is a lot of overlap between the gunpla/gundam community and the warhammer community. So much so that arguably the most popular faction after space Marines up till 9th edition was Tau. So yeah panel liner rocks
@@miafillene4396Can't speak for him, but in Alabama, there's very few options for things that except for online specialty stores, and it can take a couple weeks to get it in. Not impossible, but not as conveniant as I wish it were.
I recommend using a gloss clear on your model before applying, allows the fluid to run smoother and if you make a mistake, it's easier to clean up. Also use the brown panel line for standard tau ochre.
This stuff is MAGIC, especially for white armour. I started off with wash all over, which just looked grimy and bad, then starting painting the wash into the areas I wanted it to go, which was better, but panel liner is just so crisp and clean!
Funniest thing about that... when i played tau they were compaired to gundams like all the time... now i use that panel lining for gunpla and seeing it used for tau models is like a mobious strip
Very nice , thinking of doing my tau purple and i grabbed a similiar blhe , but i think grabbing some oranges and reds will be better for contrast then the pinks i grabbed 😂 thanks for the insperation
A gloss varnish before using these is a good idea, as the glossy surface will break the surface tension of the panel liner, and cause it to flow better, and pull away from the edges if you get it somewhere it shouldn’t be.
@SimplyWarhammer gonna have to look around in hobby stores. I see a lot of gundam kits. I may be lucky to find this paint. I do use the plastic cement of this brand. I am currently building my tau commander
Use it only over a gloss varnish (I use holloway house quick shine) that way you can remove the excess with mineral spirits easily, if you use it over a flat finish you wont be able to remove it
You should try the ak or ammo washes as well, they don't have applicators but come in more colours than the tamiya panel liners Also use enamel thinner to remove the blots outside the lines
@@SimplyWarhammer I found out about the oil paint thing when I was looking for this product a few months ago but couldn't get my hands on it, it's probably better than the oil pin wash tbh
Another trick I've tried recently is contrast paint diluted with water. Yes, I know you're not supposed to use water with contrast paint, but for getting into recesses, it's great. Have tried gundam pens before, and they're great if your hand is steady. Will have to check this out, been looking at it for a while, not tried it yet.
haha it was just a short video after Christmas to talk about a pressie my wife bought, I never expected it to be watched so much ! I should have had an affiliate link in 🙈 lol
That is supposed to be the ideal way, but I didn't want the gloss luck on the models and tbh found it to be fine, just dabbed up anything that needed cleaning, just didn't film that bit 😄
@@SimplyWarhammer I probably could've said smooth instead of glossy. There are some great panel liners out there, acrylic, all kinds of colors, fluorescent u.v. reactive stuff... really good for mech.
Cool. I'd rather just dab up any mistakes than have to do loads of cleaning from using a wash more liberally. Still as a Christmas present it was ace lol
Guys, this product is an enamel based paint. Unlike what the guy implies this not some "black ink". I don't want to be "this" guy but these type of paints are toxic and we should use some precautions when using them. Read the SDS (safety data sheet), Tamiya is providing for all its products free pdf copies. It is no coincidence that some of the listed solvents in this product have exposure limits in a closed room (well ventilated area is a must). It is also suggested to use protective gloves (minimum EN74 grade). Know what you are dealing with and take precautions. Use paints according to the SDS. Stay safe guys.
Hi and welcome 😁 The applicator comes in the lid of the panel liner, and it's just from Amazon. Links are difficult to find as the black one is in and out of stock but try this Tamiya Juice Enamel Black amzn.eu/d/fzLMxL5
As a builder of both franchises since.. 2E, and Anime started being a 'thing' in the US... Honesly, I don't use this. I like Citadel's own Washes better. Thin 1:1 with acrylic medium and a drop of dish soap (maybe a few drops of water if it's not *quite* thin enough), and you've got your own 'custom' panel liner, in *any* of Citadel or Vallejo's shades! They behave nearly identically this way. *And*, being water based, clean up without any harsh chemicals like thinners, or lighter fluid (which is the most recommended for cleaning Tamiya's). And, 0 risk of solvents eating plastic.
not noticed anything with my models. I had primed and base painted first anyway if thats helped. People have also said to varnish first but couldn't be bothered with that :-D
This is mostly due to the kind of plastic Bandai uses in their kits (not all plastics are the same). Bandai's kits are also several times thinner than most of GW's kits. But I would experiment on spares first, anyways, just to be sure. Also it's better to *seal*, not prime. Gloss, preferably, as it will promote capillary action. Making application and clean up quicker. Primers tend to be flat, more often than not, and will be more prone to staining since they don't have a perfectly smooth surface.
I got one really excited it arrived and on opening came with a a cancer warning regarding fumes 😳 please tell me this is just an over the top warning message?
Just on amazon. Done a search and found 1, not an affiliate link but showing its there. Might be worth checking for a better price tbh RCECHO Tamiya Model Paints & Finishes Panel Line Accent Color Black 40ml 87131 amzn.eu/d/aiCgIsd
oh wow just spotted this was a super thanks ! thats so generous of you, thanks very much 😊 in the mobile youtube studio it didn't show me! Thanks again 😁
I've not tried it on troops yet, the smallest thing was farsight and stealth suits which worked well. If the lines are shallow you just need to make sure theres not too much ink to flow then it won't flood 😁 good luck lol
So, Im new to the hobby and I'm curious what that applicator tool your usinh is called. It looks like it makes getting all these crevices and pannels a LOT easier than how I do it.
This type of panel liner is very common among those who build Gundam model kits. It makes since that it works well with Tau models lol
Haha yer totally 😅
Not just Gundam but airfix and alike, I’m a diorama builder who ventured to Warhammer, this is almost a key item in our toolbox 🤣
I've been watching warhammer and battletech painting videos for almost 2 years wondering why I didn't see them using panel liner
i was about to say this is just like average brit discovering what dspiae and tamiya are😭
Some really cool kits I've seen lately have been 30 Minute Miniatures (every single on looks cool and you can easily change pieces for different it like a make-your-own-mecha), Metal Robots has put some really incredible looking highly detailed metal kits and last I forgot the company that makes them but the OBSOLETE mechs are some of the coolest new designs I've seen in years (the models are from the UA-cam show OBSOLETE).
Coming to Warhammer from gundam model kits, this is funny to see
Haha yer this is probably old news 🤣 still it's my fav pressie from my wife lol
There's speculation that this is exactly what the Tau were made for
Tau Mobile Suits….
Same!
The 40k community discovers the Gundam community
Haha basically 😄
Did we just become best friends 🤣
That is gawd damn beautiful. How can I find that magnificent item?
Nah we always knew, just didn't need more people in our community that are on the far end of the tism spectrum.
@@RebZoomer what does this even mean 🙃
Another nice thing is that it's enamel based, meaning that you can remove it from an area without ruining your acrylics
Very good point 😁
aaaaaaaah
Q-tips and rubbing alcohol if you got a little messy around the edges dabbing it on.
Here in Singapore there is a lot of overlap between the gunpla/gundam community and the warhammer community. So much so that arguably the most popular faction after space Marines up till 9th edition was Tau. So yeah panel liner rocks
Yer I've noticed from doing this video there must be a good cross over :-D
I have used this panel liner for years on gundam, and now ur telling me it never crossed my mind to use it on my warhammers
Haha 😅 I've only just though to use on warhammer tank too 🤯
This thing is Gundam magic.
haha yer it is ! 😁
Yup.
After painting gundam models for 8 years i found this like explaing a socket wrench to an auto mechanic😂
Haha it was new to me at least 😁
I HATE the fact Tamiya stuff is hard to get in the states now.
Thats a real shame !
Really? California. I can list four places within 30 minutes of Los Angeles/Anaheim that should have it if you need?
@@miafillene4396Can't speak for him, but in Alabama, there's very few options for things that except for online specialty stores, and it can take a couple weeks to get it in.
Not impossible, but not as conveniant as I wish it were.
It's not specifically that brand you need, it's just an enamel wash, they're all pretty much the same except for different colours
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 I like their glue and other products as well
Dude I love tamiya panel liner, I use it all the time
Its genius isn't it 😃
as someone who is getting into painting model, this very much helps (: thank you!!
Sweet, glad it helps 😁 I wasnt lying it was one of my fav Christmas present haha I've a big Tau backlog I'm working through and it's a god send 😅
Wish the panel lines on Fire warriors were that easy
Haha yer too small !
I recommend using a gloss clear on your model before applying, allows the fluid to run smoother and if you make a mistake, it's easier to clean up. Also use the brown panel line for standard tau ochre.
Cool cheers
Gloss Varnish first for easier application. Matte when its dry.
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And for protecting the miniature, Tamiya panel liner, if it doesnt dry fast enough, can attack and dissolve the plastic of the mini.
This stuff is MAGIC, especially for white armour. I started off with wash all over, which just looked grimy and bad, then starting painting the wash into the areas I wanted it to go, which was better, but panel liner is just so crisp and clean!
Yer I've had great success with it too 😁
Funniest thing about that... when i played tau they were compaired to gundams like all the time... now i use that panel lining for gunpla and seeing it used for tau models is like a mobious strip
Haha it comes back around 🤣
Welcome to Gundam my brother
haha thanks 😅
Very nice , thinking of doing my tau purple and i grabbed a similiar blhe , but i think grabbing some oranges and reds will be better for contrast then the pinks i grabbed 😂 thanks for the insperation
Pleasure, and have fun 😁
I have been trying to explain this to my hobby store so they get the product! Now that I see the product I’ll finally be able to get it! Thank you!
haha cool 😁😁
A gloss varnish before using these is a good idea, as the glossy surface will break the surface tension of the panel liner, and cause it to flow better, and pull away from the edges if you get it somewhere it shouldn’t be.
Good idea. I don't tend to varnish my models at all tbh lol
The tau played to gunpla builder pipeline lol. It goes both ways I can tell you that
If I'm honest I don't know much about gundam, I come from a purely Warhammer place lol
That stuff works perfect for tau and gunpla
All about Tau for me 😅
In my best impersonation of batman:
*"WHERE IS THIS!!!!!!!!"*
Haha I got my through amazon, but it was a Christmas present 😊
@SimplyWarhammer gonna have to look around in hobby stores. I see a lot of gundam kits. I may be lucky to find this paint. I do use the plastic cement of this brand. I am currently building my tau commander
Yer black seems the hardest to find! I got lucky I guess 😳
@SimplyWarhammer update: this stuff is smooth like butter. It was a little messy at first, but after getting used to it. It makes things much easier.
Looks like we have a t’au fan in our hands
Haha one of many armies I'm into 😁
I bought the 3 pack of the 3 panel liner colors Black, tan and gray and i'm excited to start using them on my Tau too.
Let me know how you get on 😁
That capillary action though
Its amazing to watch isn't it 😁
@@SimplyWarhammer watching it over and over massages my brain with cacao butter.
Haha a new asmr 🤣
I had a pen that used to do the same job for my gundams. Used to put it on the white parts and smudge it too for scorch marks
That's a cool idea 😁
Yeah I was wondering if the gundam pens would work for this too!!!
Even better when you use a great brush.
Really ? Good to know. I'd worry about it not being very health for a nice brush though
Thank you this clip change my painting love it
Haha cool 😁 I was just reviewing a cool Chritstmas pressie I received 😊
Panel liner is liquid talent and I appreciate it
haha good description 😁
I saw this in a model store, I’ve been wanting to get into Warhammer but I can’t. This is awesome
I was just bigging up a cool pressie I got at Christmas 😁
As a gundam nerd i already have this, so i'll try it out sometime.
haha do it 😁
Use it only over a gloss varnish (I use holloway house quick shine) that way you can remove the excess with mineral spirits easily, if you use it over a flat finish you wont be able to remove it
Good advice, yer you have to be quick on a normal base coat, but it's doable, not everyone wants to varnish 1st I guess
Anither good option is Gundam Panel line markers
Cool, not tried em, might have to 👍
Love this stuff fot battletech minis and general panels
yer theres so much cross over
So satisfying....better than ASMR ^^
haha thats what I thought.... I was also really ill over Christmas so my voice is more soothing too haha
i just tried this today and holy shit its going to save me hours, HOURS!
Haha nice 😁
I got one of those battlesuit in my birthday
Whoop whoop 😁
@@SimplyWarhammer Tau mechs are always so good design wise
Yer I love the design tbh
I’m freakin getting this
Haha 😅
wow thats actuaclly really cool. Nice
It is isn't it haha, quite relaxing to watch 😃
You should try the ak or ammo washes as well, they don't have applicators but come in more colours than the tamiya panel liners
Also use enamel thinner to remove the blots outside the lines
Cool cheers
Ooh, I'd like to try that
You won't be disappointed lol
Im sold
Haha it wasn't meant to sell the stuff 😅
Here because of the gunpla to warhammer pipeline that now exists
Haha nice 😁
You can make something similar with black oil paint and white spirits if you're interested.
Yer I've had a few people suggesting good stuff. tbh this was a Christmas present so just wanted to make a video about it 😁
@@SimplyWarhammer I found out about the oil paint thing when I was looking for this product a few months ago but couldn't get my hands on it, it's probably better than the oil pin wash tbh
It is hard to get hold of !
I have a black oil paint pen that I wonder if I could use for this
Not ink, enamel based paint just thinned heavily. Use zippo fluid or tamiya enamel thinner for clean up
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Does alcohol also work for cleaning up the Tamiya panel liner? I only use Gundam Marker pour type and I can use alcohol to clean up.
Tau suits truly are the MS of 40k
What does MS stand for ?
Mobile Suits. The big robots from Gundam series
ah get you lol not that familiar with gundam tbh only 40k
Tau are such cool creatures, the good ones I mean.
They are lol
I NEED THIS!
Haha 😄
@@SimplyWarhammer what is the tool you used, by the way?
The applicator comes in the lid 😊
@@SimplyWarhammer woah, that's so convinent.
Another trick I've tried recently is contrast paint diluted with water. Yes, I know you're not supposed to use water with contrast paint, but for getting into recesses, it's great. Have tried gundam pens before, and they're great if your hand is steady. Will have to check this out, been looking at it for a while, not tried it yet.
Not tried either of those techniques lol, still can't recommend panel liners more highly 😁
@@SimplyWarhammer I know what I'm off to buy tomorrow after work! I think Tamiya needs to pay you a commission:)
haha it was just a short video after Christmas to talk about a pressie my wife bought, I never expected it to be watched so much ! I should have had an affiliate link in 🙈 lol
Oooh! Si hubiera tenido esto yo en mi infancia cua do empecé con TAU....
It's great isn't it 😁
@@SimplyWarhammer for sure!!!
💪
Cool, I do a similar thing with the "tesseract glow" for my necrons
Oh right that's cool, not actually tried any citadel paints to do the same thing, and the tesseract glow is perfect for necrons too 😃
@@SimplyWarhammer yeah its more like an ink than a paint really so it flows kinda like this stuff
Right definitely trying that then lol
Ive had this in my cart for months. You should get a tamiya comission for this vid. I wanted it for exactly this
Haha yer, I never thought it would do this well tbh or I would have added a commission link in there lol 😅
I've been using Panel Liner on my DeathWatch shoulders, and while it's definitely not perfect for super small cracks, it still works.
Thats a cool idea 😁
Use I thinner tip applicator ...needle maybe
Thats fucking cool
It's a game changer for me 😃
Use a gloss varnish first to reduce surface tension and esay clean up
That is supposed to be the ideal way, but I didn't want the gloss luck on the models and tbh found it to be fine, just dabbed up anything that needed cleaning, just didn't film that bit 😄
Funny how when our wives get us something we actually like hobby wise its the best lol
I use it on my necrons. Stuff is magical
Nice 😁
Cool
😁
Be careful. If you don't topcoat first or at least have a nice glossy paint layer panel liners won't flow into the recesses the right way.
Thanks. For this video and all my models so far I've only base coated and it worked well anyway 😊
@@SimplyWarhammer I probably could've said smooth instead of glossy. There are some great panel liners out there, acrylic, all kinds of colors, fluorescent u.v. reactive stuff... really good for mech.
Definitely, this is just the 1 I got for Christmas 😊
This is a "Man News" moment.
Haha 😆 it's just me enjoying a Christmas pressie I received 😁
@@SimplyWarhammer I can dig it. That's what's up
if you just use a enamel wash and white spirit you wont have the wash darkening the paintwork since its so easily removable with the white spirit
Cool. I'd rather just dab up any mistakes than have to do loads of cleaning from using a wash more liberally. Still as a Christmas present it was ace lol
Guys, this product is an enamel based paint. Unlike what the guy implies this not some "black ink". I don't want to be "this" guy but these type of paints are toxic and we should use some precautions when using them. Read the SDS (safety data sheet), Tamiya is providing for all its products free pdf copies.
It is no coincidence that some of the listed solvents in this product have exposure limits in a closed room (well ventilated area is a must). It is also suggested to use protective gloves (minimum EN74 grade). Know what you are dealing with and take precautions. Use paints according to the SDS. Stay safe guys.
Thanks for the advice
Mold line on the left arm, on the joint circle
lol cheers
Im new to 40k and im going tau! May you please share where to buy that brush and paint? Thanks!
Hi and welcome 😁
The applicator comes in the lid of the panel liner, and it's just from Amazon. Links are difficult to find as the black one is in and out of stock but try this Tamiya Juice Enamel Black amzn.eu/d/fzLMxL5
Gundam community gatekeeping enamels for warhammer models I've been using since the 90s
I was just happy with my Christmas present that I wanted to make a video 😅 lol
Do you need to get it wet first?
No I did it straight onto the model. Some people add a gloss first but I didn't, not needed. Also you can use a cotton bud to clear any overspill 😊
Varnish it before and then it will be even better, then again you can use oils.
Yer I've heard that but I found it perfectly good just over the base colours tbh 😊 what a great Christmas pressie hehe
Wait what?! Do you know how much time this could save me for my battletech minis??? Lol
I know right 😃 it's amazing lol
you can also try some enamel thinned with lighter fluid.
That seems like more effort lol
@@SimplyWarhammer more color options though.
Yer definitely 😁
Use over a satin enamel coat and any excess or accidents are easily cleared off with a q-tip and mineral spirits.
Thats cool. I didn't show but a q-tip is a great option to keep things clean, I didn't bother with any undercoating and it worked perfectly 😁
As a builder of both franchises since.. 2E, and Anime started being a 'thing' in the US... Honesly, I don't use this. I like Citadel's own Washes better. Thin 1:1 with acrylic medium and a drop of dish soap (maybe a few drops of water if it's not *quite* thin enough), and you've got your own 'custom' panel liner, in *any* of Citadel or Vallejo's shades! They behave nearly identically this way. *And*, being water based, clean up without any harsh chemicals like thinners, or lighter fluid (which is the most recommended for cleaning Tamiya's). And, 0 risk of solvents eating plastic.
Yer it's not necessarily the best stuff but it was a Christmas present and I've enjoyed using it 😊
@@SimplyWarhammer Also, make sure you shake the *ish out of it before use. It likes to separate, sometimes worse than paints do!
Good advice. I tend to use my vortex mixer on it too 👍
gunpla types have been using that for centuries 😅 and that (if enamel based) is corrosive to thin plastic. but its safe on fix figures.
Well it's new to me and a very cool Christmas present from my wife lol 😁
Hi, i would like to know what paint and equipment you used to paint the recess area.
Its a Tamiya panel liner and the applicator comes in the lid 👍
I just use water to dilute a darker paint.
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But what kind of applicator? Just a tiny brush like a 10/0 or what???
The applicator in the video is in the lid of the bottle, guess you cam use a brush also
Nice! Does it ruin the plastic? I read something about it and i'm really worried that it could be melting plastic from my models!
not noticed anything with my models. I had primed and base painted first anyway if thats helped. People have also said to varnish first but couldn't be bothered with that :-D
Magical
It's very satisfying haha
what the hell i need this
Haha
Enamel ink......it's all
I'm no expert, just really liked my Christmas present lol
I've been doing this in MSPaint for years
Haha nice 😄
Newbie question: shouldn't you paint the base colours in first before shading?
Yes indeed. In the example in the video I had but a blue base colour down already 👍
Where did you get it from? Seems quite pricey in amazon
It was Amazon and about £15, its not the cheapest of products 😊
Very nice! And very beautiful blue color on that! ¿What blue paint did you use? Regards!
It's from GW, the blue is The Fang 👍
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Boom thanks 😁
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make sure you prime your model first. it makes the plastic very brittle if you dont.
I didn't know about it going brittle but I've always primed my models 1st as minimum 👍
This is mostly due to the kind of plastic Bandai uses in their kits (not all plastics are the same). Bandai's kits are also several times thinner than most of GW's kits.
But I would experiment on spares first, anyways, just to be sure.
Also it's better to *seal*, not prime. Gloss, preferably, as it will promote capillary action. Making application and clean up quicker. Primers tend to be flat, more often than not, and will be more prone to staining since they don't have a perfectly smooth surface.
awesome
haha thanks 😁
Oil paint and white spirit does the exact same thing.
Cool, this was still my favourite Christmas present from my wife lol
I got one really excited it arrived and on opening came with a a cancer warning regarding fumes 😳 please tell me this is just an over the top warning message?
I don't know and didn't notice that ! I would go by the warnings and use a mask I guess?
Can you change the color of the panel liner when you run out of it
Say if you had a wash or a contrast paint?
Not sure, the company has a few colours and I'm sure it's not that unique other products don't match 👍
Hey, where did you manage to find this stuff? I’m also in the U.K. and can’t seem to find it anywhere apart from dodgy looking websites
Just on amazon. Done a search and found 1, not an affiliate link but showing its there. Might be worth checking for a better price tbh RCECHO Tamiya Model Paints & Finishes Panel Line Accent Color Black 40ml 87131 amzn.eu/d/aiCgIsd
So why does the Tau have the “reclaimer” symbol? Is 40k and the bungie universe linked or what?
Haha don't know 🤷♂️ Tau came 2nd so likely it took inspiration.. don't know 👍
I've been trying to use this with firewarriors but maybe the lines aren't deep enough
tbh I've not tried it on troops yet, mainly on bigger suits
Very /cool, ggz-
😁
Thanks
Pleasure 😁
oh wow just spotted this was a super thanks ! thats so generous of you, thanks very much 😊 in the mobile youtube studio it didn't show me! Thanks again 😁
This is brilliant, I've got a 5000 point T'au army to get painted and this will really help 😊
Does it work as well on Firewarriors?
I've not tried it on troops yet, the smallest thing was farsight and stealth suits which worked well. If the lines are shallow you just need to make sure theres not too much ink to flow then it won't flood 😁 good luck lol
@@SimplyWarhammer thanks you for that, I'll give it a go, fingers crossed 🤞
Ha ha hope it works well, sure it is 😁 if the model is clean (no dust) and base coat not gloopy think you'll be fine 😃
tamiya pannel liner my beloved
Haha 👍
Tamaiya is great 👍
It's been lovely, ace Christmas pressie 😁
Will the panel liner affect acrylic paint if applied straight on, or does there need to be a coating to protect the paint?
I've not noticed any problems 👍
What is the pen that you are using to applicate though? Is it similar to an ink pen?
it comes in the lid of the bottle 😁
Iv got this and never used it 🤣🤦♂️ what did you apply it with?
The applicator is in the lid 😁
So, Im new to the hobby and I'm curious what that applicator tool your usinh is called. It looks like it makes getting all these crevices and pannels a LOT easier than how I do it.
Hi, hope you are enjoying it 😁
The applicator comes into the lid of the bottle, pretty handy 👍
Awesome! I'll see if I can buy some on Amazon. Thanks for answering my question. ^^
pleasure 👍
Where’d you get that applicator
It's in the lid so provided 😁