Calcharro has ironically gone the way of Sephiroth with how much they're hiding him to finally have him appear in a dope way lol. Still waiting patiently
This would age well if they bring a super electro support or something, if not we are just coping. I would love to see him popping off, btw, I just think is never going to happen
Announce rework of him or his new form limited 5 star with New Federation patch and reintroduce him into the game. However Kuro is incompetent in integrating their own game roster into the game world naturally at least until the 2.0 so I doubt they will do it.
I also love how in the epilogue even though the guardian isn't a cat anymore you still have the option to "pet the cat" and the guardians meows I've noticed that they've taken the HSR route and added memes as dialogue options as well lol, which I love (for example in the current event where we see the transportation in Ri... Idk how to spell it vs the current region and one of the dialogue options was "I'm something of a car mechanic myself" made me chuckle lol)
______is people who don't watch saint and only listen to the sloppy left over takes about him. Bro criticizes wuwa along with most wuwa cc's. unlike some people that couldn't handle the hsr vid lmaooooo
@@slicedmika This act even leads to 1.1 story with Jinhsi. The only thing that I agree in this video are the excess of information in the beginning and the echos exp, the rest makes no sense.
Bruh he pointed out issues about the story which is his own fault because he didnt pay attention to the dialogues . After that it was immediately a big no for me to listen to any of his opinions if he confidently points out a flaw like that which is his fault
@@UpwardTBC i don't think anyone saying the story is a Tolkin level quality, but instead that some of the stuff his complaining about was addressed in the dialogue, the same criticism that he gave for HSR but again.... was explain in the story. btw i think all gacha story suck, as someone who has played all the gacha games so far, only 2 games have actually made me gasp how great the writer is Punishing gray raven (yes the writer is diff from wuwa) Nikke
Except the echo XP thing. Echo XP was one of the first issues brought up, when creators like Fob and Pokke mathed out the low rewards compared to the XP needed to level them to 25, saying it takes way too long and too many waveplates to level up a full set of echos for a team.
This dude really didn't understood the point of the sundial, It was so they could meet up on a certain location without other people knowing where exactly it would take place besides the two of them. It was supposedly a secret meeting for the two to avoid unwanted leaks of the situation of Jinzhou and to convince Rover to join their cause. Why they did this? The Fractsidus were following Rover and they knew about this since the start. This was evident when u finish the Clues and went to eat with yangyang and Chixia The two stalkers Scar and Phrolova were following Rover and Sanhua was following them. Because of this secret meeting they were able to capture Scar later on the story because Scar never knew about Jinhsi and Rover meeting up. It's not so hard to know why it happen if you only paid attention in the first place. For more Clarification, when Rover Confronted Camellya Camellya did reveal to Rover what she did against Scar and Phrolova. After ensuring Rover's and Jinshi's safety, she shared her actions in a subtle yet confident manner, reflecting her calculated approach. She likely detailed how she misled Scar and Phrolova using strategic diversions, exploiting their weaknesses and overconfidence. This conversation served to build trust between Camellya and Rover, showcasing her resourcefulness and dedication to their shared goal. It also highlighted the complexity of Scar and Phrolova as adversaries, emphasizing the ongoing danger even after her successful maneuvers. As for Sanhua, she was probably more direct confrontation as the final line of defense to ensure that Rover was not followed.
The vast majority of players who say that Wuwa's plot sucks haven't even tried to delve into it and get a more complete understanding. And in the video there is another example of such a player.
Am i dumb or this doesn't make sense at all. If they are following Rover then why would they need to know the location. Since they are already following? Like do they know every place else that Rover will go so hiding this spot is crucial? They could simply keep following when Rover is going to meet up. Why would sundial even be relevant over simply having a text saying "meet me at this location"?
the problem is the dialogues and word choices are shit even in chinese subs, i am confused as a native, the story telling and dialogues fkin sucks, especially coming from honkai 3rd, genshin, zzz, hsr where the story and dialogues are at least better and easier to understand, even those has some flaws, but wuwa is the worst at this
@@darknez09240 As a player of HSR, it's just funny to me to read about how the dialogues and plot in HSR are better. The entire plot of Penacony is complete garbage, uninteresting, dull and cringe-worthy. With constant groundless imposition of Firefly. And with constant extremely dull monologues of Sunday, repeated 10 times.
There is someone on Wuthering Waves subreddit made an post about canonically explanation on "Gathering Wives" part not a long ago. It's very interesting to read. I will put the main point said in the post and TLDR down below. SO BASICALLY : The majority of this games premise can be described as a psychic awakening. Where psychic powers ( waveform phenomena ) were unleashed in the world, and people can now use this form of psychic energy ( Frequencies ) A lot of psychics ( resonators ) started to appear in the world and discovered they had the ability to use spiritual powers ( forte ), by harmonizing with the world ( Reverberations ). But not all energy is good, and negative energy can cause chaotic outbreaks ( Lament ) If a psychic's mental state is not kept in check, there powers can be unleashed and cause havoc for those around them ( Overclocking ), by turning a lot of the positive energy into negative energy ( Think of Mob Psycho 100 ) Rover has the unique ability to harmonize with the world, and does not get affected by the negative psychic energy (Remnant energy). In fact, he has a spiritual guardian that he shares a strong bond with, who can eat negative energy ( abby ). Heavy Implying that rover themselves has the ability ( even if its passive ) to stabilize and calm excessive energy. They also are very sensitive to this energy via sounds And can even guide lost spirits ( Mutterflies ) back to there place of rest. ( Tacetites ) So what does this all mean? In media one of the core components of any psychic. is the ability to influence or even control someones mind or even emotional state. This is consistent with what we have seen throughout the game so far, via tacet discords and lingering resentment from remnant energy. if the entire games terminology can be analogous to sounds. If we changed the word Resonator to Psychic, Sound could be changed to Soul. Rover could QUITE LITERALLY, have a soul (Frequency) so powerful, that it can influence other psychic's (resonators) souls, subconsciously putting them at ease. Removing all there negative energy. This game could be hinting at the fact that rover can absorb, or at very least pacify negative remnant energy, without Abby. Thus creating a natural charm, that draws people closer. Thus saving them from the risk of overclocking, even if they don't realize it. TL : DR So every time we joke about sleeping with changli. It is cannon that we are doing it to save her. Wuwa's story and lore are deeper than people thought. I honestly think some wuwa players didn't catch any of that before probably because they too used to other games telling them directly, so maybe they should put more thoughts into listening to the dialogues and reading the text just for wuwa
Even with all of that, Kuro could still make way more interactions between the characters. Persona 5 let you have a harem too, yet it doesn't mean that the characters interact only through the MC and with noone else. You can still have deep characters with their own agendas and story's being their own thing WHILE having obvious attraction to Rover. It was done properly hundreds of times in JRPG sector, in manga/anime, in movies, etc, however it isn't done well in Wuwa at all, you get hollow one dimensional characters, majorly female characters with some vague backstory, and fix 1 issue together, the end. It's not nearlt enough. HSR have way more characters interacting with each other, Astral Express, IPC, Stellaron Hunters, Xianzhou, Belabog, Penacony. They ALL interact with each other ALL the time, not just with MC.
@@sydorovich2532 I mean we are pretty much at the prologue. Jue himself said that Blackshores is were are journey begins. Also, there were quite a few interactions between characters in 1.0 and 1.1 too. There was a part where we had Jiyan perspective and we meet Geshu Lin. In 1.1 Rover was just supporting Jinhsi but it was pretty much between her and Jue.
@@Bobo-fz1gy 1.1 is a peak storytelling of Wuwa for me, I don't have much criticism for it. Changli/Jue/Jinhsi/Rover/granny npc interactions and interaction with Phrolova backing up bad guys from the shadows were the closest to peak storytelling and writing in Wuwa. Everything else is way lower than that.
I think Tectone's title is inflammatory, but Ryuuku's criticism is very tame and understandable. There's always room for improvement, I think WuWa would be great if they addressed his concerns in the video.
Half his video is just glazing Wuwa. He has two lvl 75 accounts and every character and weapon which is insane. Probably top 0,01% in playtime. It's crazy to pretend Saintontas will come after him, they both clearly love the game.
I just want to emoathise that the decelopers actually listened whole changing things from technical test and cbt1 due to the HORRIBLE feedback from players. They did so many things people asked for, but exactly that took so much unique design out of it. I have been a fan of WuWa since pre-cbt1 August 2022 and i feel bad that i never actively gave any feedback because due to PGR, i trusted everything and everyone enough to do it well but that was not it. People complained that Rover wasn't greeted with a smile, so they changed it. They literally over and over again asked for it to be more like Genshin, and now people take ot against the game. I can only feel happy thinking about the 2.0 leaks, and that wuwa finally gets back what they wanted to do, though the whole world is already redesigned and can't be undone. 2.0 will finally start the actual lore drops and progression in the story. I am glad WuWa devs gave themselves the time to now listen to all players outside and re-work on everything.
At least cn players asked for turning down the amount of hate towards MC thats all. Dont know about non cn feedback. It seems kuro just decided to choose more safe route to make it just a harem wihich is a win win in 90% so they dont get mixed feedback.
So you really want to say that from 1.0 to 1.4 there was no progression in the story and no lore in the plot? That's just ridiculous, lol, considering how much information was even in the latest patches - 1.3 and 1.4
@NanookTheSupremeDestroyer there is obvious progression, I am talking about the development from technical test to release aka 1.0. I know the improvement up to 1.4, especially regarding the story-telling it progressed crazy well. But it's very obvious that 1.0 to 1.4 was used to establish a base for why 2.0 is already coming after 1.4 to open up with the take of feedback. From 1.0 to 1.4, we still really barely know anything about Rover except that we were from the Black Shores, were strong before, and decided our memories to get erased (etc.). The cutscene in cbt1 had an actual visual reveal on what type of person we are, that we will only get later on. I am talking high about 2.0 and not big about recent progressions because I know the quality of their pgr content.
Same with HBR, but the difference why those games work is because they already have an existing fanbase Medea Jun on one side and Limbus having Lobotomy Corp. Library of Ruina, etc, and so the people who start playing those games would last long regardless if the game would fail or lose interest early on or not And let's be real, most Wuwa's players are from Hoyoverse and ToF playerbase than from actual Punishing Gray Raven's playerbase and even then PGR is still a waifu gacha game in it's core You also can't really say that when they make 30+ fucking versions of each character and say "but those are just E.G.O's" you're missing the point they're technically making more characters whether it's the same face or not In Limbus's case u could argue it's not the typical waifu gacha game and the characters actually grow within the the world's environment and the MC isn't just a random harem king number 35 million
Visual novels can do that easily if they try. Look at fgo. NPCs there have more character development and depth than any waifu/husbando bait in wuwa, genshin, hsr etc.
My friend likes wuwa because it looks more realistic than other big gacha games. He was actually upset about how the new region turned out to be like. The map/story does seem similar to Fontaine's, and the echoes reminded him of the trash cans in Star Rail lol
23:23 i think it’s more like they and hsr advertised themselves with a better ratio of males to females unlike games like ananta, which are telling you they’re gonna focus more on girls than dudes. wuwa and hsr kinda deserve the backlash for outright advertising a lie and alienating a portion of their fanbase and ARE losing out on big money cus girls who collect husbandos or whatever do spend like crazy. (it’s also why i’m weirded out they refuse to do skins properly. like do you want money or no?). like no one would be mad at ananta for not having men, i’m sure most are just gonna expect the male mc and that one dude to be the only ones to exist for a long time anyway.
Chinese here (with some very questionable level of Mando/Canto), it's funny that with Yang Yang's VA pronunciation of "Huang Long" is tonally correct but man it does sound like they had one good take and every time the word comes up it's edited in the dialogue haha. I'm sure it's not her fault or whatever mic she was given but gaddamn everytime there's a "P" or an "S" in her words it's like ASMR dialled to 500% hurting my ears haha. I think my favourite voice from Wuwa is definitely Abby, like Pikachu on 50 packs of marlboro a day.
10:07 i think that's what genshine was trying to do with natlan 5.1 where you choose where you want to go to help who is getting attacked and depends on your choices fitue or the dinos or the natives who dies and who get rescued
I thought Encore's story was surprisingly serious. Both her and that random girl lost their mother, and the way they tell the story is how they coped with it. It honestly made me tear up when Encore was talking about her loss.
I think the point is that new released female character are always in a way attracted to Rover. In the case of Encore she was a character in the release of the game.
@FateShadow643 oh yeah definitely. I just meant what I said about them referring to the game not staying true to their serious tone, then regarding Encore as one of the examples.
Some of these are fair criticisms I've had of the Game since day one (especially about the Story and tone) but most of his Gripes of WuWa are minor or subjective, Which is good because I was worried he'd pop off like he did with HSR.
@francescoettwedda-1875 Basically like Genshin's first three chapters? Mondstadt, Liyue and Inazuma was dog water at least WuWa have amazing visuals unlike GI's powerpoint presentation ahhh cutscenes.
I feel like this could be a hot take: WuWa's combat is a little too easy right now. Theres no challenging things to do anymore, and the content is too short. I cleared the whole of Black Shores in 2 days as a student with extra things like sports going on at the side which I feel like is a bit absurd. The only things challenging about the game right now is the Tower of Adversity but thats only because the timer is shorter than your parents marriage and the hp bar is bigger than your moms ass.
@@AdHocWholius I cleared that too. when I say I cleared the map I mean 100% the game. Not to say I hate the exploration, I love it. Straight up wuthering waves is the only game I have gave in the effort to 100%. Even in games like tears of the kingdom or breath of the wild, I never 100% it.
why everyone always think everything become easy when they mastering the game already?. when this or that so easy for you, why you not try much more challenging like no hit with debuff 100 hp only in illusive dream and make it 20 video of it when the game its easy?.
One of the Biggest threats to wwua is the commer degenerates they don't care about quality they don't care about developed characters all they want is to pop their rocks off and will lead the developers not hearing the issues with the story I'm so glad ryukko called them tf out he my fav cc now
35:57 its definitely not a major issue. Its a 1% issue. People are sweating way too hard. They are literally still leveling echos for a character, after theyre fully built because "this echo only has 4 good stats, i want 5". I have every character thats released, fully built and have full cleared all towers and have more echo xp than i know what to do with. Edit: for the rest of his echo rant, where he breaks it down with the spreadsheet, its presenting the information as if every echo you stat check goes to 25 (it doesnt) AND its not accounting for the fact that when its shit, you just put it in the next one. Yes its diminishing returns, but it still matters
aditional edit: The farming infinitely, isnt about RNG. Its in regards to the fact you would never have to spend stamina on farming XP and that isnt a thing, in literally any gacha game in existence. Genshin dont give you shit for free. HSR, no. Nikke, one run per day and not much xp. PGR does it like wuwa, lots from events. Path to nowhere, stamina to farm. the list goes on. But at least Wuwa actually lets you farm artifacts for free, like no other game. The only reason youre desperate for XP, is BECAUSE they let you farm for free, so you have a backpack with 2k echos. Can it be better? yes. Would you prefer if we couldnt farm artifacts "infinitely" so that you didnt have to worry about not having XP and did it like every other gacha?
11:25 i see hsr doing that a lot like the kafka quest where there're a lot of different ways to finish the quest or cocona side quest where depends on your choices cocona either suicide or become a singer And in the main quest even if the outcome is the same dialogs there are many different ways to go you can make fun of march she gets angry or you can choose to hate on Sunday he gets sad it's actually a little bit fun to see these interactions but they need to add a skip button and repayable quests like ZZZ so i can try these other choices like i swear i missed the photo that kafka will send and till now i can't get it again 😭
And tbh there's no point in getting rid of jiggle physics. They should just make an option in the graphics settings to disable jiggle physics, for people that want that
@@SushiBandz i'm pretty sure it turns off physics for other stuff aswell like boxes falling apart when you break them but meh. who cares about that anyways
35:32 If you grind a lot of echoes it allows you to be picky with your substats and only level echoes to like +5 or +10, if the first 1 or 2 subs aren't good you can just try again with another echo, making it so you spend more tuners than xp. If you don't, players usually just take every echo to +15 +20 or even +25, those players run out of xp way faster than they run out of tuners. I think Kuro needs to either just remove tuners from the game, make it so you can see the substats on an echo after leveling them and then you spend tuners to activate the substat, or just allow players to convert xp into tuners and vice-versa. 36:36 About the materials need to level up echoes I think it's fine, because early in the game you get a lot of tuners from tidal heritages and you get a lot of echo xp from events. Sure it takes 32 gold tubes to max an echo, but after you already have +25 echoes, when you try to get another one with better substats you can recycle the one you're not using anymore and get 26 gold tubes back and also 15 tuners, meaning it only really takes 6 gold tubes to get a +25 echo, not 32. That's a little less than two tacet fields.
stg if this game had better boss music or overworld music....id be so much more invested, even new loading/open screen music every patch or every so often would set this game aside from so many others in the category
What's crazy is that most if not all feedback he gave was actually used/addressed in rinascita... down to the choice of background music and list of all the songs. Wow.
Played from the beginning until 1.2, honestly never had a thought about the music's situation because that part of the audio was so low. And if i heard smthg, i don't remember a thing because it wasn't memorable. Hoyo was shitting on Kuro's music department, I'm glad I'm hearing the situation is improving from version 1.3.
I think he had some fair points in there,but 2.0 update has brought a lot of major changes and seeing just how much it could change in literally 1 single version,I am really excited to see what's next,like about voice acting and that stuff,they even added new lines to characters and replaced some of the bland old ones
One thing I fucking appreciate is that Kuro takes their sweet time to foster admiration with their male characters, either by introducing them early af. Showing of drip early af, all of it to eventually see his demo showcase and all those feelings coalesce to you wanting to pull an actual male 5 star character. P.s. like goddamn! We got Jiangliyao for FREE! AND HES OP! 😅
While they're taking their sweet time with their male characters, me, who actually want more of those male chars, here are wondering when the fuck are they going to finish 'taking their sweet time' because it has been months since the last time I've found 'em interesting (1.0, Calcharo, Scar, Jiyan, Geshulin, 50% of them is unplayable). Heck, that's even the reason why I now take a massive vacuum from the game because there's only so much time in a day that I can give to a gacha game that offers no certainty whether the content/characters that I'm interested in will be coming or not. Xiangli Yao is cool, but after using him for MONTHS, even his gameplay would get stale. Witcher 3 is the best game I've ever played in terms of combat and characters, but even that game, after hundreds of hours playing, I too feel burned out by Geralt, let alone Xiangli Yao who objectively isn't as interesting as Geralt of Rivia.
I dont think Calculator is even canonically in Jinzhou. He's the leader of a merc group from another nation, why would he be in Huanglong? If he was on a mission, he wouldnt be alone.
5:20 Interestingly, if you are using Spectro Rover, you may able to pull off a finishing move against scar even in regular farming. I guess it's a concept that got toss away.
After listening the sound prblem i think someone already watched this video from wuwa and added option to change bg music but I don't care about that just casual gamer.
Here's the thing, if the players get together during the next player surveys I'm sure Kuro will eventually implement a lot of the fixes for these critiques.
The one thing I don't like is how the changed the beginning part of the story where everyone is super suspicious of the MC and some char got beaten up by the enemy.
I haven’t seen anyone else comment this so I’d like to clarify that though some lines do sound robotic, the reason she kept saying “Huang Long” in the exact same tone is because that’s the accurate chinese pronouciation (黄 huang 龙 long) they’re both in the 2nd intonation. There isn’t much u can change about that without butchering the pronounciation
im having trouble with echo exp but i keep forgetting that these areas for farming is a thing, just would really like an instant teleport to those areas
Tbh for the echo exp thing, I still don't think they should let us convert echoes to exp mats to lvl other echoes up (but they really should let us convert them into some mats to recycle). I just think we should have a stage where we can farm _just_ the echo mats for less price since I really don't need the echoes rn. Maybe it will be the 4th uhh I forgot the challenge name but it would be after character mats, weap mats, and credits. We can farm them for 40 waveplates instead - I really wish this would happen. If not, then they should let us convert echoes into exp mats even for only a tiiiny bit per echo.
He was completely right on the part where the characters should start out disliking then come. to like you over time. Tectone misinterpreted it as every character individually should do this, but that was not stated. He was saying a nation or group as a whole doesnt trust you, but through proof they begin to trust you. Also, my main issue with WuWa is a lot of the new characters basically turned into weird dating sims, and I was ready for a serious story and didnt really get it. Which he went over, but I'm just stating my main complaints.
Absolutely this, I heard that some weirdos were complaining in the beta that "the characters are too mean" or something, but it breaks the immersion when we just meet a character and they're immediately "omg Rover!!! You're so strong and amazing omg!!" "I was so excited to see you I couldn't think straight!" And while I can understand certain characters doing this, I don't want every character to have the "glaze on sight" protocol when it comes to Rover
Yes, we DO need the characters to be love interests because the alternative is to either have none of them be a LI or the devs pick and choose which one gets to be the LI which is terrible because some players would get the waifu they want while the rest won't. That shit pisses me off to no end, I would drop the game. Just let the gacha game do what a gacha does, which is tease possible ships without actually committing to any of them. That way, players can decide what they like for themselves. Hoyo does this all the time. If we ignore the mentally ill people who think only their ship is canon, that is a pretty good tactic since everyone gets a piece of the pie and can root for the ship they like. Meanwhile, the nonshippers can just...ignore the romance aspect of it since it's not official and you can always argue a different interpretation (even though we all know what's going on).
it seems like everyone knows that effective managers have joined in, and now we have this, and not what the developers originally came up with, you can still tell from the game that it is made with love
LOL I've been saying all along I swear they had Yangyang say "Huanglong" once and just copy/pasted it every time cause there's always a slight pause and it sounds like the same clip but my man Ryuku got in the lab and did the research. Debunked, OK but glad I'm not the only one who was convinced of that
5:00 in PGR it's happening often in boss fight, the change in OST, and phase i haven't played a lot of wuwa but i'm suprised to hear this, they got it really good in theirs previous game
The ONE thing I genuinely would love is a quest replayer along with a theater mode...with Kuro...I can actually hope that at some point they'll implement it.
This is a critique I can agree with, unlike other CCs out there who keeps berating the game but doesn't give a suggestion/recommendation how to fix a certain problem. And the ability to replay certain quests? 1000% agree. Edit: Yeah, Yang Yang is best girl.
Never understood the echo EXP comment after 1.1 . I played everyday and I have more issues with shells nowadays due to raising multiple characters. Got basically most sets with double crit(besides Lingering) and even have a 4* CR/CD double crit variant for the various sets. Have way too much tuners now and around 550 gold echo exp items. When I want to try for double crit on an echo, I tend to go for +10 if +5 is crit or a relevant stat. Then I used a trash +25 echo with single crit and 22 purples to lv25 then pray for double crit. Hardly use the gold tuners that way. Only issue I have is running out of 3 cost echos to tune through this method but I just have to farm them. I am also a lite spender BP + monthly.
I think Calcharo & reddit mod had a story, but after the rewrite they just axed them, because those parts of the story didnt make any sense or tie to the new plot 😅 but theyhad to keep them in, because they were already on the front page, and they needed extras to fit in roles.
35:45 I'm okay with settling for subpar echoes too and I still have echo exp problems. I could barely get my Carlotta new echoes (while settling for only one crit roll) when rinascita first dropped. I just cant build all the chars i want (which isnt even that many) with the lackluster amount of echo exp tbh
Bro says "it's okay if other gacha games have MC glazing but I don't want it in WuWa cuz I am already playing other gacha games". This is the most stupeed take I have seen lol. And not to mention Hypocritical. I lost all respect for this guy. I had hoped he would talk about actual issues in the game like how ToA is rigged towards on-banner characters and so are some events like Pincer one right now. But he kept talking about useless stuff which all other gacha do and which he says is okay in other gacha but not in WuWa cuz he is playing other gacha games 💀 Also his entire HSR video was complaining how the dialogue isn't cinematic but now WuWa has cinematic dialogue with great cutscenes and high production values, that never gets taken as a positive from his side. Awful video honestly...
This guy trying to act serious to just gain more views his entire 20 mins video on hsr is just pure yapping circling around "bad bad story long dialogue" which is understandable but 20 WHOLE MINS? No absolutely not
@@dreading_bread5062 Yep you know its insane when his entire "critique" is like talking about story. Like bro, we play story once for 2-3 hrs in 45-60 days, the rest of the time we are playing the endgame, events, other things, every single day. Imo those take way more of our time than story, yet story is where we have problem with but dont have any proper critiques for actual gameplay / event / core mechanics related issues lol. Ryuuku sensei is a fraud imo
Wuwa's story in 1.0 was bad aside from scar and the black sheep arch. But since 1.1 it has had the best story in the gacha space by far. The companion quests are better than all their competitors and it's not even close. They actually put the effort into cinematic dialogue. But first impressions are hard to break. They wont be able to crush the stereotype for most players unless 2.0 story slaps. That part about not liking people loving the MC just seems to be there to garner support with the content creator dickrider fanbases that all pretend they hate it, or he's just up and decided to have a hypocrite moment which we're all entitled to once in a while lmao. It reminds me of his complete cop out in his HSR video that "the story is good, the storytelling is bad". No. The HSR story is hot garbage. They released a trailer of the annihilation gang and then off screened them and replaced their part in the story with Aventurines companion quest. But he doesn't want to rock the boat too much. He doesn't have the balls to speak the truth. If wuwa had pulled that shit it would be the laughing stock of the gacha space.
@@commissar6860 Tectone says it as it is, if they remove Fanservice from WuWa then the game is dead. And Camellya banner sales prove this. Their sales were going down and down since 1.0 until Camellya banner which did a massive 150% sales increase. Good thing is, even with MC glazing, we have great story-telling and proper lore and story for all the characters with great cinematic dialogue, that is a massive plus imo. There are way more other complete games than WuWa. WuWa is a good game but "game" part is frankly not there yet. Only good regions in the game are Black Shores and Mt Firmament and they are quite small. The events are very few and endgame is not that good.
This is what we call real critique, this is what saint been talking about, they must critique like this guy because he sure know what he is talking about since the beginning till the end
I read about everyone hating Rover in the early betas. But the everyone practically glazing Rover now was too much in the other direction. Wished we could have gotten something in between.
Ryuuku sensei is extremely based in everything he said. 🙌 All his criticisms are absolutely based. The people crying about it are just as problematic as the Hoyoshills in Genshin. Same people, different game.
27:35 - This does not works, it is the problem in CBT story, btw. In a city where a lot of people come from random regions and Jue saying some random is their hero, why the he** u would treat Rover like a trash?
@sydorovich2532 Nop, in the beginning Jinhsi tells the girls with him about the profecy. And, Yangyang tells rover that Jinzhou is a welcoming city for many peoples from many places, the real enemy is the lament, not the people, even the exiles are treated fair well. Does not makes sense treat him as a sus one with all this context.
I swear to god I thought I was the only one to notice Yangyang... I was like... why does her saying that one city name sound so repetitive every time she mentions it? LOL
I run out of echo exp occasionally sure but it's never been that bad. How many echoes are people rolling on? I get a set, if a couple of substats look good, I slap it on, and I'm able to clear most of the time. Is it a possible issue in the future, sure, but I don't think the game requires a ton of min/maxing in the current state as long as your characters and weapons are max level and you have 5 echoes leveled up. That being said the tacet fields are definitely very stingy with exp so I'm all for it giving more. Or have permament double drop days on the weekend or something. If other games are an indication substats will eventually be more important as endgame scales up. I'll be 100% transparent though I haven't gone too deep into holograms yet so I would assume people looking to clear those and get the fastest tower times probably do tune a ton of echoes and like 4 gold drops per tacet field is definitely not enough.
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are you on steroids tectone?
This is the greatest compliment I've ever got
BRO CAN NOT BE SERIOUS 😂
no, he IS steroids
pure, natural Body fat, He will be stronger than Saitama 💪
no tec is legit.
Calcharro has ironically gone the way of Sephiroth with how much they're hiding him to finally have him appear in a dope way lol. Still waiting patiently
This would age well if they bring a super electro support or something, if not we are just coping. I would love to see him popping off, btw, I just think is never going to happen
@@pliyo yinlin kinda?
@@pliyohis gameplay is clunky. Support is not going to save that and even then Xiangli Yao would be better
Announce rework of him or his new form limited 5 star with New Federation patch and reintroduce him into the game. However Kuro is incompetent in integrating their own game roster into the game world naturally at least until the 2.0 so I doubt they will do it.
Calcharro is just another alternate Jing Yuan version who get replaced by superior electro lmao
Latest update dialog option:
Option 1:"blablabla"
Option 2:"wawawa"
Option 3:*pet the cat.
I know which one I always choose.
every time except when you get the option for cat food.
I also love how in the epilogue even though the guardian isn't a cat anymore you still have the option to "pet the cat" and the guardians meows
I've noticed that they've taken the HSR route and added memes as dialogue options as well lol, which I love (for example in the current event where we see the transportation in Ri... Idk how to spell it vs the current region and one of the dialogue options was "I'm something of a car mechanic myself" made me chuckle lol)
Saintontas coming for him next
Objectively ☝🤓
He's literally doing it right now 😭😭🙏 I love the wuwa community help
@@bloqmayus LMAO SAME 😂
He overall agree with many of his point so people just need to do valid critism and not straigh up invention like Smack or Iyo or Fob.
It appears to be true
Bro is gonna be in saint's hit list.
Actually, he agreed to quite alot of his points
______is people who don't watch saint and only listen to the sloppy left over takes about him. Bro criticizes wuwa along with most wuwa cc's. unlike some people that couldn't handle the hsr vid lmaooooo
@@grymns i know i love saint's content, i just think the kuro bot jokes are fucking hilarious, Objectively Cinema.
6:48 - Jinshi did not do this to test Rover, it was to create a trap to catch Scar.
Exactly, it’s kinda annoying how people talk big while they skimmed through the quest
@@slicedmika This act even leads to 1.1 story with Jinhsi.
The only thing that I agree in this video are the excess of information in the beginning and the echos exp, the rest makes no sense.
@@keibr agreed, the commentary guy is requesting too much, no game is perfect
FR
And it was actually Changli who prepared everything
Honestly, some are fair criticisms.
Good thing wuwa Devs listens. So yeah. The issues this guy brought up will get or did get fixed.
Bruh he pointed out issues about the story which is his own fault because he didnt pay attention to the dialogues . After that it was immediately a big no for me to listen to any of his opinions if he confidently points out a flaw like that which is his fault
@@Mfmail12484 yess. when he was talking about the tokens that was just his fault for bad reading comprehension
@@Mfmail12484 no bro, even I as a kurobot and spender in the game, can't deny story sucks
@@UpwardTBC i don't think anyone saying the story is a Tolkin level quality, but instead that some of the stuff his complaining about was addressed in the dialogue, the same criticism that he gave for HSR but again.... was explain in the story. btw i think all gacha story suck, as someone who has played all the gacha games so far, only 2 games have actually made me gasp how great the writer is
Punishing gray raven (yes the writer is diff from wuwa)
Nikke
Except the echo XP thing. Echo XP was one of the first issues brought up, when creators like Fob and Pokke mathed out the low rewards compared to the XP needed to level them to 25, saying it takes way too long and too many waveplates to level up a full set of echos for a team.
This dude really didn't understood the point of the sundial,
It was so they could meet up on a certain location without other people knowing where exactly it would take place besides the two of them.
It was supposedly a secret meeting for the two to avoid unwanted leaks of the situation of Jinzhou and to convince Rover to join their cause.
Why they did this?
The Fractsidus were following Rover and they knew about this since the start.
This was evident when u finish the Clues and went to eat with yangyang and Chixia
The two stalkers Scar and Phrolova were following Rover and Sanhua was following them.
Because of this secret meeting they were able to capture Scar later on the story because Scar never knew about Jinhsi and Rover meeting up.
It's not so hard to know why it happen if you only paid attention in the first place.
For more Clarification, when Rover Confronted Camellya
Camellya did reveal to Rover what she did against Scar and Phrolova. After ensuring Rover's and Jinshi's safety, she shared her actions in a subtle yet confident manner, reflecting her calculated approach. She likely detailed how she misled Scar and Phrolova using strategic diversions, exploiting their weaknesses and overconfidence.
This conversation served to build trust between Camellya and Rover, showcasing her resourcefulness and dedication to their shared goal. It also highlighted the complexity of Scar and Phrolova as adversaries, emphasizing the ongoing danger even after her successful maneuvers.
As for Sanhua, she was probably more direct confrontation as the final line of defense to ensure that Rover was not followed.
The vast majority of players who say that Wuwa's plot sucks haven't even tried to delve into it and get a more complete understanding. And in the video there is another example of such a player.
That's what happens when they skip dialogue or not pay attention.. and then say it's a plot hole or whatever bullshit they want to say. 😂
Am i dumb or this doesn't make sense at all. If they are following Rover then why would they need to know the location. Since they are already following? Like do they know every place else that Rover will go so hiding this spot is crucial? They could simply keep following when Rover is going to meet up. Why would sundial even be relevant over simply having a text saying "meet me at this location"?
the problem is the dialogues and word choices are shit even in chinese subs, i am confused as a native, the story telling and dialogues fkin sucks, especially coming from honkai 3rd, genshin, zzz, hsr where the story and dialogues are at least better and easier to understand, even those has some flaws, but wuwa is the worst at this
@@darknez09240 As a player of HSR, it's just funny to me to read about how the dialogues and plot in HSR are better. The entire plot of Penacony is complete garbage, uninteresting, dull and cringe-worthy. With constant groundless imposition of Firefly. And with constant extremely dull monologues of Sunday, repeated 10 times.
There is someone on Wuthering Waves subreddit made an post about canonically explanation on "Gathering Wives" part not a long ago. It's very interesting to read. I will put the main point said in the post and TLDR down below.
SO BASICALLY :
The majority of this games premise can be described as a psychic awakening. Where psychic powers ( waveform phenomena ) were unleashed in the world, and people can now use this form of psychic energy ( Frequencies )
A lot of psychics ( resonators ) started to appear in the world and discovered they had the ability to use spiritual powers ( forte ), by harmonizing with the world ( Reverberations ).
But not all energy is good, and negative energy can cause chaotic outbreaks ( Lament )
If a psychic's mental state is not kept in check, there powers can be unleashed and cause havoc for those around them ( Overclocking ), by turning a lot of the positive energy into negative energy ( Think of Mob Psycho 100 )
Rover has the unique ability to harmonize with the world, and does not get affected by the negative psychic energy (Remnant energy).
In fact, he has a spiritual guardian that he shares a strong bond with, who can eat negative energy ( abby ).
Heavy Implying that rover themselves has the ability ( even if its passive ) to stabilize and calm excessive energy.
They also are very sensitive to this energy via sounds
And can even guide lost spirits ( Mutterflies ) back to there place of rest. ( Tacetites )
So what does this all mean?
In media one of the core components of any psychic. is the ability to influence or even control someones mind or even emotional state. This is consistent with what we have seen throughout the game so far, via tacet discords and lingering resentment from remnant energy.
if the entire games terminology can be analogous to sounds. If we changed the word Resonator to Psychic, Sound could be changed to Soul.
Rover could QUITE LITERALLY, have a soul (Frequency) so powerful, that it can influence other psychic's (resonators) souls, subconsciously putting them at ease. Removing all there negative energy.
This game could be hinting at the fact that rover can absorb, or at very least pacify negative remnant energy, without Abby. Thus creating a natural charm, that draws people closer. Thus saving them from the risk of overclocking, even if they don't realize it.
TL : DR
So every time we joke about sleeping with changli. It is cannon that we are doing it to save her.
Wuwa's story and lore are deeper than people thought. I honestly think some wuwa players didn't catch any of that before probably because they too used to other games telling them directly, so maybe they should put more thoughts into listening to the dialogues and reading the text just for wuwa
Even with all of that, Kuro could still make way more interactions between the characters. Persona 5 let you have a harem too, yet it doesn't mean that the characters interact only through the MC and with noone else. You can still have deep characters with their own agendas and story's being their own thing WHILE having obvious attraction to Rover. It was done properly hundreds of times in JRPG sector, in manga/anime, in movies, etc, however it isn't done well in Wuwa at all, you get hollow one dimensional characters, majorly female characters with some vague backstory, and fix 1 issue together, the end. It's not nearlt enough. HSR have way more characters interacting with each other, Astral Express, IPC, Stellaron Hunters, Xianzhou, Belabog, Penacony. They ALL interact with each other ALL the time, not just with MC.
I love Wuwa but 1% of players are going to read lore. This explanation doesn't improve anything
@@sydorovich2532 I mean we are pretty much at the prologue. Jue himself said that Blackshores is were are journey begins. Also, there were quite a few interactions between characters in 1.0 and 1.1 too. There was a part where we had Jiyan perspective and we meet Geshu Lin. In 1.1 Rover was just supporting Jinhsi but it was pretty much between her and Jue.
@@Bobo-fz1gy 1.1 is a peak storytelling of Wuwa for me, I don't have much criticism for it. Changli/Jue/Jinhsi/Rover/granny npc interactions and interaction with Phrolova backing up bad guys from the shadows were the closest to peak storytelling and writing in Wuwa. Everything else is way lower than that.
So long story short rover is a pretty chill guy
Saintontas is about to crash out so hard on this one
lol
Funny because Saintontas actually mostly agree on Sensei's take on this
Saintontas is not that type of guy to crash out over valid criticism(gachasmack so called criticism was skill issue btw)
They're actually friends haha so that's not gonna happen
Good takes, Good reasons and good ideas for fixing some of them ngl, i hope kuro actually see that video considering how well they tend to listen
SAINTONTAS BOUTTA POP OFF
*CRASH OUT
KINGGGG
Bro about to jump off
I think Tectone's title is inflammatory, but Ryuuku's criticism is very tame and understandable. There's always room for improvement, I think WuWa would be great if they addressed his concerns in the video.
Half his video is just glazing Wuwa. He has two lvl 75 accounts and every character and weapon which is insane. Probably top 0,01% in playtime.
It's crazy to pretend Saintontas will come after him, they both clearly love the game.
mockermay is even more wild he has 4 accounts in 4 different servers with max exploration
I just want to emoathise that the decelopers actually listened whole changing things from technical test and cbt1 due to the HORRIBLE feedback from players. They did so many things people asked for, but exactly that took so much unique design out of it.
I have been a fan of WuWa since pre-cbt1 August 2022 and i feel bad that i never actively gave any feedback because due to PGR, i trusted everything and everyone enough to do it well but that was not it.
People complained that Rover wasn't greeted with a smile, so they changed it. They literally over and over again asked for it to be more like Genshin, and now people take ot against the game.
I can only feel happy thinking about the 2.0 leaks, and that wuwa finally gets back what they wanted to do, though the whole world is already redesigned and can't be undone.
2.0 will finally start the actual lore drops and progression in the story. I am glad WuWa devs gave themselves the time to now listen to all players outside and re-work on everything.
At least cn players asked for turning down the amount of hate towards MC thats all. Dont know about non cn feedback.
It seems kuro just decided to choose more safe route to make it just a harem wihich is a win win in 90% so they dont get mixed feedback.
So you really want to say that from 1.0 to 1.4 there was no progression in the story and no lore in the plot? That's just ridiculous, lol, considering how much information was even in the latest patches - 1.3 and 1.4
@NanookTheSupremeDestroyer there is obvious progression, I am talking about the development from technical test to release aka 1.0.
I know the improvement up to 1.4, especially regarding the story-telling it progressed crazy well. But it's very obvious that 1.0 to 1.4 was used to establish a base for why 2.0 is already coming after 1.4 to open up with the take of feedback.
From 1.0 to 1.4, we still really barely know anything about Rover except that we were from the Black Shores, were strong before, and decided our memories to get erased (etc.). The cutscene in cbt1 had an actual visual reveal on what type of person we are, that we will only get later on.
I am talking high about 2.0 and not big about recent progressions because I know the quality of their pgr content.
28:18 limbus is like the only gacha that actually can do that, they made small, limited cast from the start.
but each sinner has different forms and also the characters are charismatic so it's not such a big problem
That's like having 7 gokus in the same game argument. It may be more of a detriment rather than a blessing.
Same with HBR, but the difference why those games work is because they already have an existing fanbase
Medea Jun on one side and Limbus having Lobotomy Corp. Library of Ruina, etc, and so the people who start playing those games would last long regardless if the game would fail or lose interest early on or not
And let's be real, most Wuwa's players are from Hoyoverse and ToF playerbase than from actual Punishing Gray Raven's playerbase and even then PGR is still a waifu gacha game in it's core
You also can't really say that when they make 30+ fucking versions of each character and say "but those are just E.G.O's" you're missing the point they're technically making more characters whether it's the same face or not
In Limbus's case u could argue it's not the typical waifu gacha game and the characters actually grow within the the world's environment and the MC isn't just a random harem king number 35 million
Visual novels can do that easily if they try. Look at fgo. NPCs there have more character development and depth than any waifu/husbando bait in wuwa, genshin, hsr etc.
16:51 lmao thats actually the reason i wanted to see you react to the video. American tectone reacting to Japanese tectone XD
My friend likes wuwa because it looks more realistic than other big gacha games. He was actually upset about how the new region turned out to be like. The map/story does seem similar to Fontaine's, and the echoes reminded him of the trash cans in Star Rail lol
As a gay man, the fan service is NOT THAT BAD...Bayonetta has far more fan service than YINLING. Anyway, we need more male 5 stars please❤
Saintontas about to have the crash out of the century
23:23 i think it’s more like they and hsr advertised themselves with a better ratio of males to females unlike games like ananta, which are telling you they’re gonna focus more on girls than dudes. wuwa and hsr kinda deserve the backlash for outright advertising a lie and alienating a portion of their fanbase and ARE losing out on big money cus girls who collect husbandos or whatever do spend like crazy. (it’s also why i’m weirded out they refuse to do skins properly. like do you want money or no?). like no one would be mad at ananta for not having men, i’m sure most are just gonna expect the male mc and that one dude to be the only ones to exist for a long time anyway.
Chinese here (with some very questionable level of Mando/Canto), it's funny that with Yang Yang's VA pronunciation of "Huang Long" is tonally correct but man it does sound like they had one good take and every time the word comes up it's edited in the dialogue haha. I'm sure it's not her fault or whatever mic she was given but gaddamn everytime there's a "P" or an "S" in her words it's like ASMR dialled to 500% hurting my ears haha.
I think my favourite voice from Wuwa is definitely Abby, like Pikachu on 50 packs of marlboro a day.
10:07 i think that's what genshine was trying to do with natlan 5.1 where you choose where you want to go to help who is getting attacked and depends on your choices fitue or the dinos or the natives who dies and who get rescued
As someone who played in late 1.1 they definitely fixed the way the characters spoke. My experience was pretty good.
Saintontas going Super saiyan 3 with this video.
P.S: Not even 10k views in 1+ hour? Channel's on life support.
I thought Encore's story was surprisingly serious. Both her and that random girl lost their mother, and the way they tell the story is how they coped with it. It honestly made me tear up when Encore was talking about her loss.
I think the point is that new released female character are always in a way attracted to Rover. In the case of Encore she was a character in the release of the game.
@FateShadow643 oh yeah definitely. I just meant what I said about them referring to the game not staying true to their serious tone, then regarding Encore as one of the examples.
I love Wuthering waves and he's absolutely right
Some of these are fair criticisms I've had of the Game since day one (especially about the Story and tone) but most of his Gripes of WuWa are minor or subjective, Which is good because I was worried he'd pop off like he did with HSR.
always find bad things about games for content 🤷
Yeah that's because he is a wuwa player, he would never say that the wuwa story is empty and souless (and It's true)
@francescoettwedda-1875 Basically like Genshin's first three chapters? Mondstadt, Liyue and Inazuma was dog water at least WuWa have amazing visuals unlike GI's powerpoint presentation ahhh cutscenes.
@@thepunisher1107 you re comparing bad story to another bad story i mean, they both bad
Have i even said anything about genshin?
I feel like this could be a hot take: WuWa's combat is a little too easy right now. Theres no challenging things to do anymore, and the content is too short. I cleared the whole of Black Shores in 2 days as a student with extra things like sports going on at the side which I feel like is a bit absurd. The only things challenging about the game right now is the Tower of Adversity but thats only because the timer is shorter than your parents marriage and the hp bar is bigger than your moms ass.
Post hologram 6
@@AdHocWholius I cleared that too. when I say I cleared the map I mean 100% the game. Not to say I hate the exploration, I love it. Straight up wuthering waves is the only game I have gave in the effort to 100%. Even in games like tears of the kingdom or breath of the wild, I never 100% it.
If u has 3 4hours in days to playing game. Its not too short. But i think 2.0 is very big map so...
why everyone always think everything become easy when they mastering the game already?. when this or that so easy for you, why you not try much more challenging like no hit with debuff 100 hp only in illusive dream and make it 20 video of it when the game its easy?.
@@Handarunumaka I have bro, and again, I said its a hot take
Lots of people were calling Rinascita wuwa's Fontaine, and in the end it was actually Liurnia of the Lakes. Damn peak update.
One of the Biggest threats to wwua is the commer degenerates they don't care about quality they don't care about developed characters all they want is to pop their rocks off and will lead the developers not hearing the issues with the story I'm so glad ryukko called them tf out he my fav cc now
Absolutely agree, the story of the game really holds off the game to truly surpass the barrier and be almost masterpiece.
20:42 Tower of Fantasy has this CD player where you can choose any song you want. You need to collect each from the open world though
35:57 its definitely not a major issue. Its a 1% issue. People are sweating way too hard. They are literally still leveling echos for a character, after theyre fully built because "this echo only has 4 good stats, i want 5". I have every character thats released, fully built and have full cleared all towers and have more echo xp than i know what to do with.
Edit: for the rest of his echo rant, where he breaks it down with the spreadsheet, its presenting the information as if every echo you stat check goes to 25 (it doesnt) AND its not accounting for the fact that when its shit, you just put it in the next one. Yes its diminishing returns, but it still matters
aditional edit: The farming infinitely, isnt about RNG. Its in regards to the fact you would never have to spend stamina on farming XP and that isnt a thing, in literally any gacha game in existence. Genshin dont give you shit for free. HSR, no. Nikke, one run per day and not much xp. PGR does it like wuwa, lots from events. Path to nowhere, stamina to farm. the list goes on. But at least Wuwa actually lets you farm artifacts for free, like no other game. The only reason youre desperate for XP, is BECAUSE they let you farm for free, so you have a backpack with 2k echos. Can it be better? yes. Would you prefer if we couldnt farm artifacts "infinitely" so that you didnt have to worry about not having XP and did it like every other gacha?
11:25 i see hsr doing that a lot like the kafka quest where there're a lot of different ways to finish the quest or cocona side quest where depends on your choices cocona either suicide or become a singer
And in the main quest even if the outcome is the same dialogs there are many different ways to go you can make fun of march she gets angry or you can choose to hate on Sunday he gets sad it's actually a little bit fun to see these interactions but they need to add a skip button and repayable quests like ZZZ so i can try these other choices like i swear i missed the photo that kafka will send and till now i can't get it again 😭
And tbh there's no point in getting rid of jiggle physics. They should just make an option in the graphics settings to disable jiggle physics, for people that want that
Double it instead
actually there is. you can disable physics in the settings if you want
@ Really?? I'll try it in a bit
@@SushiBandz i'm pretty sure it turns off physics for other stuff aswell like boxes falling apart when you break them but meh. who cares about that anyways
"If we want this game to break into the mainstream..."
We don't want that, we never wanted that. Mainstream is dog water, niches are peak.
35:32 If you grind a lot of echoes it allows you to be picky with your substats and only level echoes to like +5 or +10, if the first 1 or 2 subs aren't good you can just try again with another echo, making it so you spend more tuners than xp. If you don't, players usually just take every echo to +15 +20 or even +25, those players run out of xp way faster than they run out of tuners. I think Kuro needs to either just remove tuners from the game, make it so you can see the substats on an echo after leveling them and then you spend tuners to activate the substat, or just allow players to convert xp into tuners and vice-versa.
36:36 About the materials need to level up echoes I think it's fine, because early in the game you get a lot of tuners from tidal heritages and you get a lot of echo xp from events. Sure it takes 32 gold tubes to max an echo, but after you already have +25 echoes, when you try to get another one with better substats you can recycle the one you're not using anymore and get 26 gold tubes back and also 15 tuners, meaning it only really takes 6 gold tubes to get a +25 echo, not 32. That's a little less than two tacet fields.
Everything could be solved it they just let us use echoes as echo exp material, same as any other gatcha like HSR, genshin
9:42 to me it felt more like a `test` to see if you could eventually take over the torch so to speak. if anything were to happen to him.
10:33 i also agree that taking a `wrong` option should have made the game just more difficult due to it not being the optimal approach.
W-Well y-you’re bald!! A-And he isn’t!
I agree with some of his objective points but he put a bit to much subjective stuff like the Heron theme in there for my tastes.
stg if this game had better boss music or overworld music....id be so much more invested, even new loading/open screen music every patch or every so often would set this game aside from so many others in the category
nice job letting Ryuku have his video up for 7 hours before you put yours up jfc
Leaching of other people's work
What's crazy is that most if not all feedback he gave was actually used/addressed in rinascita... down to the choice of background music and list of all the songs. Wow.
Renasitta in Trailer~ Look lively full of humans~ \
in actually Gameplay~ People are Holograms
what he is looking for for the boss music is the bass. they nerf the bass
Played from the beginning until 1.2, honestly never had a thought about the music's situation because that part of the audio was so low. And if i heard smthg, i don't remember a thing because it wasn't memorable. Hoyo was shitting on Kuro's music department, I'm glad I'm hearing the situation is improving from version 1.3.
no views in 45s is crazy
Tru.... I stared at that for like at least 20 seconds....
500 views in 5 minutes? bro has fallen off
I literally said the same thing
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I think he had some fair points in there,but 2.0 update has brought a lot of major changes and seeing just how much it could change in literally 1 single version,I am really excited to see what's next,like about voice acting and that stuff,they even added new lines to characters and replaced some of the bland old ones
One thing I fucking appreciate is that Kuro takes their sweet time to foster admiration with their male characters, either by introducing them early af. Showing of drip early af, all of it to eventually see his demo showcase and all those feelings coalesce to you wanting to pull an actual male 5 star character.
P.s. like goddamn! We got Jiangliyao for FREE! AND HES OP! 😅
While they're taking their sweet time with their male characters, me, who actually want more of those male chars, here are wondering when the fuck are they going to finish 'taking their sweet time' because it has been months since the last time I've found 'em interesting (1.0, Calcharo, Scar, Jiyan, Geshulin, 50% of them is unplayable). Heck, that's even the reason why I now take a massive vacuum from the game because there's only so much time in a day that I can give to a gacha game that offers no certainty whether the content/characters that I'm interested in will be coming or not.
Xiangli Yao is cool, but after using him for MONTHS, even his gameplay would get stale. Witcher 3 is the best game I've ever played in terms of combat and characters, but even that game, after hundreds of hours playing, I too feel burned out by Geralt, let alone Xiangli Yao who objectively isn't as interesting as Geralt of Rivia.
i like how sensei has to first state that he is a kurobot before starting the video 😂
I dont think Calculator is even canonically in Jinzhou. He's the leader of a merc group from another nation, why would he be in Huanglong? If he was on a mission, he wouldnt be alone.
5:20 Interestingly, if you are using Spectro Rover, you may able to pull off a finishing move against scar even in regular farming. I guess it's a concept that got toss away.
After listening the sound prblem i think someone already watched this video from wuwa and added option to change bg music but I don't care about that just casual gamer.
Here's the thing, if the players get together during the next player surveys I'm sure Kuro will eventually implement a lot of the fixes for these critiques.
The one thing I don't like is how the changed the beginning part of the story where everyone is super suspicious of the MC and some char got beaten up by the enemy.
Saintontas bout to end this man’s entire carreer
He can try
@@ryuukusensei 🗿🔥
@@ryuukusenseiLMAO, sensei go !!! 😂
I haven’t seen anyone else comment this so I’d like to clarify that though some lines do sound robotic, the reason she kept saying “Huang Long” in the exact same tone is because that’s the accurate chinese pronouciation (黄 huang 龙 long) they’re both in the 2nd intonation. There isn’t much u can change about that without butchering the pronounciation
im having trouble with echo exp but i keep forgetting that these areas for farming is a thing, just would really like an instant teleport to those areas
Tbh for the echo exp thing, I still don't think they should let us convert echoes to exp mats to lvl other echoes up (but they really should let us convert them into some mats to recycle). I just think we should have a stage where we can farm _just_ the echo mats for less price since I really don't need the echoes rn. Maybe it will be the 4th uhh I forgot the challenge name but it would be after character mats, weap mats, and credits. We can farm them for 40 waveplates instead - I really wish this would happen. If not, then they should let us convert echoes into exp mats even for only a tiiiny bit per echo.
Cant wait for the pletra of drama reaction videos in the coming week with this one
He was completely right on the part where the characters should start out disliking then come. to like you over time. Tectone misinterpreted it as every character individually should do this, but that was not stated. He was saying a nation or group as a whole doesnt trust you, but through proof they begin to trust you. Also, my main issue with WuWa is a lot of the new characters basically turned into weird dating sims, and I was ready for a serious story and didnt really get it. Which he went over, but I'm just stating my main complaints.
Absolutely this, I heard that some weirdos were complaining in the beta that "the characters are too mean" or something, but it breaks the immersion when we just meet a character and they're immediately "omg Rover!!! You're so strong and amazing omg!!" "I was so excited to see you I couldn't think straight!" And while I can understand certain characters doing this, I don't want every character to have the "glaze on sight" protocol when it comes to Rover
@@nexaaaaaaa Because even after saving the whole goddamn city they still shit on you.
And makes you think that joining fractsidus is not bad at all.
hsr dialogue option is for comedy or joke only and its funny tho. It is still fine and it made hsr dialogue option is unique among other gacha games
Yes, we DO need the characters to be love interests because the alternative is to either have none of them be a LI or the devs pick and choose which one gets to be the LI which is terrible because some players would get the waifu they want while the rest won't. That shit pisses me off to no end, I would drop the game. Just let the gacha game do what a gacha does, which is tease possible ships without actually committing to any of them. That way, players can decide what they like for themselves. Hoyo does this all the time. If we ignore the mentally ill people who think only their ship is canon, that is a pretty good tactic since everyone gets a piece of the pie and can root for the ship they like. Meanwhile, the nonshippers can just...ignore the romance aspect of it since it's not official and you can always argue a different interpretation (even though we all know what's going on).
You know what they should do? They should run a clip in cocomelon style to explain any new term when it pops up.
it seems like everyone knows that effective managers have joined in, and now we have this, and not what the developers originally came up with, you can still tell from the game that it is made with love
LOL I've been saying all along I swear they had Yangyang say "Huanglong" once and just copy/pasted it every time cause there's always a slight pause and it sounds like the same clip but my man Ryuku got in the lab and did the research. Debunked, OK but glad I'm not the only one who was convinced of that
5:00 in PGR it's happening often in boss fight, the change in OST, and phase i haven't played a lot of wuwa but i'm suprised to hear this, they got it really good in theirs previous game
the regions that calcharo comes from still hasn't been made in game so there is still hope
8:22 eggy please inform us when it's release
The ONE thing I genuinely would love is a quest replayer along with a theater mode...with Kuro...I can actually hope that at some point they'll implement it.
This is a critique I can agree with, unlike other CCs out there who keeps berating the game but doesn't give a suggestion/recommendation how to fix a certain problem.
And the ability to replay certain quests? 1000% agree.
Edit: Yeah, Yang Yang is best girl.
35:52 I have a huge issue with xp mats
Wuthering waves: name different types of waves for the past months this year.
DUDE, THEY DIDNT EVEN USE THE "FLOW" OST, THAT SH*TS SO GOOD
Fair enough, some cutscenes should be playable after you completed the story. That way you can actually remember what happened in the previous patch.
Never understood the echo EXP comment after 1.1 . I played everyday and I have more issues with shells nowadays due to raising multiple characters. Got basically most sets with double crit(besides Lingering) and even have a 4* CR/CD double crit variant for the various sets. Have way too much tuners now and around 550 gold echo exp items.
When I want to try for double crit on an echo, I tend to go for +10 if +5 is crit or a relevant stat. Then I used a trash +25 echo with single crit and 22 purples to lv25 then pray for double crit. Hardly use the gold tuners that way.
Only issue I have is running out of 3 cost echos to tune through this method but I just have to farm them. I am also a lite spender BP + monthly.
I think Calcharo & reddit mod had a story, but after the rewrite they just axed them, because those parts of the story didnt make any sense or tie to the new plot 😅 but theyhad to keep them in, because they were already on the front page, and they needed extras to fit in roles.
The day I can finally play draws near! Rovers, I'm so ready.
26:29 THANK YOU for saying exactly what I was thinking here. Completely ridiculous take.
35:45 I'm okay with settling for subpar echoes too and I still have echo exp problems. I could barely get my Carlotta new echoes (while settling for only one crit roll) when rinascita first dropped. I just cant build all the chars i want (which isnt even that many) with the lackluster amount of echo exp tbh
Bro says "it's okay if other gacha games have MC glazing but I don't want it in WuWa cuz I am already playing other gacha games". This is the most stupeed take I have seen lol. And not to mention Hypocritical.
I lost all respect for this guy. I had hoped he would talk about actual issues in the game like how ToA is rigged towards on-banner characters and so are some events like Pincer one right now. But he kept talking about useless stuff which all other gacha do and which he says is okay in other gacha but not in WuWa cuz he is playing other gacha games 💀
Also his entire HSR video was complaining how the dialogue isn't cinematic but now WuWa has cinematic dialogue with great cutscenes and high production values, that never gets taken as a positive from his side. Awful video honestly...
This guy trying to act serious to just gain more views his entire 20 mins video on hsr is just pure yapping circling around "bad bad story long dialogue" which is understandable but 20 WHOLE MINS? No absolutely not
To be fair the point of the video is a critique so positives aren't needed here necessarily. Problem is the critiques themselves
@@dreading_bread5062 Yep you know its insane when his entire "critique" is like talking about story. Like bro, we play story once for 2-3 hrs in 45-60 days, the rest of the time we are playing the endgame, events, other things, every single day.
Imo those take way more of our time than story, yet story is where we have problem with but dont have any proper critiques for actual gameplay / event / core mechanics related issues lol. Ryuuku sensei is a fraud imo
Wuwa's story in 1.0 was bad aside from scar and the black sheep arch. But since 1.1 it has had the best story in the gacha space by far. The companion quests are better than all their competitors and it's not even close. They actually put the effort into cinematic dialogue. But first impressions are hard to break. They wont be able to crush the stereotype for most players unless 2.0 story slaps.
That part about not liking people loving the MC just seems to be there to garner support with the content creator dickrider fanbases that all pretend they hate it, or he's just up and decided to have a hypocrite moment which we're all entitled to once in a while lmao. It reminds me of his complete cop out in his HSR video that "the story is good, the storytelling is bad". No. The HSR story is hot garbage. They released a trailer of the annihilation gang and then off screened them and replaced their part in the story with Aventurines companion quest. But he doesn't want to rock the boat too much. He doesn't have the balls to speak the truth. If wuwa had pulled that shit it would be the laughing stock of the gacha space.
@@commissar6860 Tectone says it as it is, if they remove Fanservice from WuWa then the game is dead. And Camellya banner sales prove this. Their sales were going down and down since 1.0 until Camellya banner which did a massive 150% sales increase. Good thing is, even with MC glazing, we have great story-telling and proper lore and story for all the characters with great cinematic dialogue, that is a massive plus imo.
There are way more other complete games than WuWa. WuWa is a good game but "game" part is frankly not there yet. Only good regions in the game are Black Shores and Mt Firmament and they are quite small. The events are very few and endgame is not that good.
The day geshulin and scar gets announced, is the day I probably spend a BUNCH of money right away.
The Jiyan weapon fiasco was so bad for Kuro when it happened omg 😭
The echo problem would be solved if they just let us use or breakdown level 1 echoes into exp
This is what we call real critique, this is what saint been talking about, they must critique like this guy because he sure know what he is talking about since the beginning till the end
It was crazy that KURBOTS told me that I was impatient when I said the TACET FIELD needed a HUGE FIELD. Mathematically speaking, they were full of BS.
20:30 i think the edited version is to make the sound clue`s in game stand out easier despite the song playing?
Ryuuku looks like a character from a Guy Ritchie movie about angry brits
Love the Destiny 1 reference 😂 " I dont have time to explain why i dont have to explain"
I read about everyone hating Rover in the early betas. But the everyone practically glazing Rover now was too much in the other direction. Wished we could have gotten something in between.
Ryuuku sensei is extremely based in everything he said. 🙌 All his criticisms are absolutely based. The people crying about it are just as problematic as the Hoyoshills in Genshin.
Same people, different game.
I think spectro Rover still has that special animation against Scar if u challenge him again. Not sure if its applied in ToA
27:35 - This does not works, it is the problem in CBT story, btw.
In a city where a lot of people come from random regions and Jue saying some random is their hero, why the he** u would treat Rover like a trash?
Because Jue literally didn't appear for anyone other than their leader for extremely long time and people could be distrustful that he's HIM?
@sydorovich2532 Nop, in the beginning Jinhsi tells the girls with him about the profecy.
And, Yangyang tells rover that Jinzhou is a welcoming city for many peoples from many places, the real enemy is the lament, not the people, even the exiles are treated fair well.
Does not makes sense treat him as a sus one with all this context.
I swear to god I thought I was the only one to notice Yangyang... I was like... why does her saying that one city name sound so repetitive every time she mentions it? LOL
I never got the guitar riff. The music just loops for me. Which made the fight with dreamless not as climatic.
Arent the sub stats linked to server time? 10 min cycle where every minute the % of certain stat appearing changes?
I'm watching this video at work while I let HSR autoplay it's story on my phone.
Some are good feedbacks, some are preference. I agreed with a lot of Tectone's preference takes in this video.
The dude is not only making valid points... But he is also giving some points to tackle The Problems.... One of the better Gacha content Creators
I run out of echo exp occasionally sure but it's never been that bad. How many echoes are people rolling on? I get a set, if a couple of substats look good, I slap it on, and I'm able to clear most of the time. Is it a possible issue in the future, sure, but I don't think the game requires a ton of min/maxing in the current state as long as your characters and weapons are max level and you have 5 echoes leveled up.
That being said the tacet fields are definitely very stingy with exp so I'm all for it giving more. Or have permament double drop days on the weekend or something. If other games are an indication substats will eventually be more important as endgame scales up.
I'll be 100% transparent though I haven't gone too deep into holograms yet so I would assume people looking to clear those and get the fastest tower times probably do tune a ton of echoes and like 4 gold drops per tacet field is definitely not enough.