My reply after reading some comments - That fire was in the attic from the start of the video. A water can would have been pissing in the wind. Truck Companies have truck assignments - roofs ops, search, extension, etc. Engine Companies have Engine assignments - water and hoses. These guys did an excellent job!! Keep it up!
Although American firefighters are better prepared than us Argentines, I never understood why it takes so long to extinguish a fire, this is incredible to me, sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand.
I had been a fire/incident photog for quite a few FDs in the Walworth County, Wisconsin area and when I see guys do what I saw here it puts a lot of trust in these departments like most of the departments in Walworth County. They get to the scene and they RUN to do their job, they don't lackadaisically just walk around waiting to have someone tell them the next step or what needs to be done. They get water on the fire as soon as they can while other team members are checking for occupants & pets. They know their job and rush to do it to the best that they can. This video had a great response from what I saw. Good video GAK!
I was there at lunch when this occurred. We were really Impressed with how the firemen handled the whole situation. We didn’t even have to get up. The firemen came with the hoses and went straight to the attic. Our steaks came out perfect and the Rubbard pudding was awesome. Thanks for a great job.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, "house fire", I think not, more like a 3 1/2 story multi-use commercial/apartment building. Also, a note to Fire Command Officer, ordering a charged handline to the 3rd story roof's landing may well have been more effective in suppressing the advance of the fire, than 3 firefighters with a pike pole and no water. Just suggesting.
Ever think that if they had blasted the outside fire before assessing what is going on inside that they might drive flaming embers into the building causing more spread of fire? They have reasons for what they do. Until you are an experienced firefighter, you will never know.
@@dougdiplacido2406I am a retired 30+ year Sr. Capt. veteran of a PFD, I know what I am talking about. BTW : I did not say anything about blasting the outside of any building. Learn to read with intelligent comprehension and you may yet get somewhere in your life !!!
@@theshadow1559 amen, brother! Still miss the old days. Every fire is a new challenge, countless variables. Plenty of myths...it's an art, depending on your resources.
agreed, first line in as they did, 2nd line to stop the exterior spread, which can definitely be done without negatively impacting what may be happening inside.
This doesn't look good right from the start with fire under the eves. This appears to be a difficult one to deal with, but they got it mostly knocked down pretty quick.
BR finally a comment from person that knows something about fire fighting. The armchair firefighters are out in force on this video. They all think they know more than the firefighters on the job. This was a great attack they did a great job for all the armchair firefighters why don’t you get out of the chair get on the department and learn something before you start your comments.
The truth is, these guys did a great job of making it more complex and involving way more resources than needed. It is easy to see that a worker on a ladder inadvertently started a small fire while repairing the roof, stripping paint, ect...What is unfortunate is that nobody, either FD or civilian. had the good sense or thought to carry a simple extinguisher up the ladder, a child with a good super soaker could have controlled the fire. Even 8 minutes into the video before the hoseline gets up to the level, a skilled firefighter with a 2.5 gallon extinguisher could knock down the fire, get the thing overhauled, and be back at the house cooking lunch in 30 minutes. But yes, to the person who does not think in this way, these guys DID show that their training is paying off! soker @@davidglaum2538
capi1lope Thank you for your comments now let’s look at the facts. First on scene had smoke showing so they had more fire than a hand pump could handle. Remember that as far as the amount of equipment remember that” it as better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it “. Fire can move very fast inside walls and up the roof you need to know where the fire is before you can attack it. Go to your local fire house and ask them what S.l.i.C.E. stands for in fire fighting.
Better training is needed. The first engine parked in the wrong place blocking the ladder truck. And Always keep the hose out of the street so others can approach.
I'm always amazed at how sooooo many of these fires happen right before an earthquake. That's the only reason I can think of as to why there is soooooo much shaking, wobbling, zooming in and out etc. on these videos. Either that or somehow there is a huge correlation between fires and amateur videographers with parkinsons being in the right place at the right time.
Reminds me of kids shooting bottle rockets that landed in leaves in the gutters of a neighbor's house. No one was home. The leaves ignited and the house burned down.
@@albertledesma5173 you CLEARLY know NOTHING about firefighting. www.firerescuemagazine.com/articles/print/volume-6/issue-10/strategy-and-tactics/can-you-really-push-fire.html Or you can google the EXTENSIVE research UL did on the subject.
Ladder up on the B side before the fire department get on scene....maybe a contractor working on the roof ? Fire appears to be on the outside only but hard to tell by the video.
wrong. US firefighter the most aggressive in the world. There are always example that go against that, but if you know about the fire service the US has the absolute most aggressive tactics. In many parts of the world the owner of the building goes to jail if he/she has a fire in their home. Also in most parts of Europe they have more people assigned to prevention than suppression and their tactics are heavily focused on defensive attack.
@@jackh577 .. I've seen quite a bit actually and a professor of mine that I'm still friends with is one of the top researchers in the NFPA. It is widely known that outside of the US firefighting is less aggressive. Good thing, bad thing, we can all judge that for ourselves. I'm from the Boston area and we are historically aggressive.
Its a volunteer fire department,, cut them a break,,, Usually Jersey City is called on a second alarm and puts the fire out for them .. This is what happens in low budget fire depts. Its sad ,,
I love these guys and have been to many fires and worked with them all but my one pet peeve is the guy sent up the ladder to vent the roof wasted a good amount of time because he did not have on his good or mask and be ready to go on air if your brothers needed that vent like yesterday they would have cooked because you were not ready . come on guys be ready to go on air and work it's two seconds of your time that could save or kill a fellow firefighter
8 Minutes into the Video and there is STILL no water running ! WHAT are these guys doing ?? German Firefighters working that slow would be fired immediately. Don`t they have ANY water in these trucks ? Also @ the cameraperson : You clearly need to work on your skills. Holding the camera still would improve the quality immensely.
That is not a house more like an apartment or Room and board maybe even bed & breakfast That is New Jersey, I had to look it up. Fire is always horrible My house burned down, good thing it was brick it took 3 months to rebuild my brother made a side net the McDonald's would be done before we would move back in I had 4 children and my husband People we did not know helped, we rented an old house and my 2 oldest stayed with friends from school. the last 2 fire here on youtube were on the upper floors The good part is they come back and check before they let anyone back in
I love that I worked as a nurse before I retired Memory care and advanced Assisted living Two different buildings on the same campus Thanks for letting me know. Alterra was the company I am 71 now and I need to have more to do, as soon as it is completed One is being built a block from where I live. I will Volunteer I do not need the money and I am really healthy my apartment is on the third floor I know it is my stairs
Gerald Alama Fire probably started inside first. You can drive the fire back inside if you hit it from outside. Just a few minutes from the arrival of the first engine there are firefighters inside. You can cause them to be scalded by the fire and water entering the building. Inside out unless no other choice
Gerald, if you'd been paying attention, you'd have seen that they extended a couple of hose lines inside up to the third floor where the fire was. There was a door to the outside right where the fire was. You clearly don't realize how much work it is to extend a hose line up to the third line of a building.
Lots of vehicles, lots of firefighters and NO water, don't US appliances have a first aid tank. A hose reel would have reached those eaves the first pumper should have had water on within minutes.
That's what I'm thinking here in St. Paul , MN. they have them a lot of fire are almost out before the rest of the fire arrive, I think volunteer here...
John Bratley wow the illusive armchair firefighter checks in! Hey genius, what if someone’s inside, or a firefighter is trying to get someone out? You know you can scald a person to death by putting. Water on too fast before a search? Guess you didn’t think of that
I seem to watch a lot of these firefighting videos, and it's very interesting to see the various firefighting techniques employed. I have a question for the professionals. I understand the need to accurately assess exactly what's going on when you first arrive, and it takes a few minutes. But is there any harm in prioritizing getting water on any visible fire as this assessment is taking place? There seems to be a universal rule that that's just not going to happen! Enquiring minds want to know- why is that? Thanks!
Thank you! I have seen what a difference a roof hole makes by viewing a video from a "helmet cam", and with your explanation, I can imagine that it causes more smoke and steam and such for the guys inside, ( having also seen how many fires are best f ought from the inside.) It always just seemed so counter-intuitive! But I think I get it now. Still tough to delay just getting the water on it- but knowledge, training and discipline will win the day.
@Steve Flath As an Officer in a large paid department, if I was in charge of that Ladder, I would have ordered hand tools, a saw, and a 1-3/4" line to go up with us, to knock that fire down AND for the protection of my crew and myself. Getting water on those flames would have been my first priority up on that flat roof.
8 min in the fire is growing exponentially and still no water on the fire, what is it with Americans does a fire need to reach a certain size before they are allowed to put water on it? Or are they paid by the hour? 🙁
David Tyndall , I do that all the time, so what is your point? Knock the visible fire down from the outside and then go inside and finish it off. You guys are wasting too much time getting organised. Look at all the catastrophic fires in the U.S. ( where whole apartment buildings burn down or 5 or 6 houses in a row) and tell me again how good your system works.
@@johnnz4375 your argument is misinformed. First off, theres a lot to be said watching this video. Wind driven fire to start, older construction possible false ceilings or built up roof layers. First engine company had the line stretched in under 30 seconds that's damn good. And they had the awareness to stretch it dry so they burn them selves out. If I had to guess they were probably checking the ceiling in the upper floor to make sure it wasnt running the attic. Second, you cant base all the videos you see on tactics alone, the US is building houses lighter and lighter everyday. These arent legacy construction homes anymore. And the fuel load is more volatile than it's ever been. A lot of depts here dont like to just throw water at fire from outside, for various reasons. Go inside, find it, knock it down and look for extension. Dont be a part of the problem In the fire service and talk shit about everyone else. It's not your dept, so dont worry about how they work.
John NZ I live not a mile from our local fire station! Guess who did not get a call when my hay shed caught fire? I put that fire out myself with the aid of a garden hose it was ripping pretty good by the time the fire was spotted! Saved the metal shed/minimal damage. And lost the 10 bales and 13 baby chickens that was inside. Had I called the FD and waited the shed, the one next to it and anything in the vicinity would have been a loss. Not that our local FD is slow/bad. It just that by the time they had mobilized and arrived the shed would have been a loss. After a good cleaning and paint job that shed was back in service and made it a couple more years before psycho storm came through and took it , the tree in the front yard, a couple of horse shades, oh and the power pole/internet lines all in one fell swoop! I actually think our power company is worse than any FD as they apparently didn’t get the hay our line is on the ground memo! So when they charged the lines again I got to watch it ark all the way up the pole at 4 AM!
John NZ your truly are an asshole, first off as said here, why try destroying a building if you can get to the seat of the fire and get it out. Second you mass of shit, if you spray water, and someone is inside , or a firefighter is inside , you will scald them to death. So let the big boys use the trucks and you sit and watch like a good little boy with no comment
wtf are they doing? 7 minutes over,no water on the roof,3-4 climbing up the ladder,with no weapon,and apparently not wearing oxy mask. Around 7:50 minutes a guy waving his hand,like he got some smoke inhaled.
There were firemen on the inside attacking the fire at is's source. They will not blow water into a fire when there are personal in the building. That could create a great hazard for the fire fighters on the other side of the walls and under the roof.
You clearly don't know anything about firefighting. They use TOOLS, not weapons, they DO NOT wear Oxygen masks, and a tiller ladder truck almost never has a pump, water, and hoses.
ffjsb They absolutely do wear oxygen masks! It’s part of their breathing apparatus. And yes they absolutely should be wearing them! The Phoenix Fire department has lost 2 Fire fighters in close succession to job related cancers! The latest to die was 30 years old and had only been on the job for around 8 years. It doesn’t take much exposure to the nasty chemicals generated when any building burns to cause cancer. Every firefighter needs to be proactive over their own health. Wearing ones air mask is very important!
I hate watching videos of American firefighters. Slow AF! (it's 8:17 before someone that is trained to put out a fire hits the roof and he HAS NO HOSE of course it's Jersey and its a Dr's office... needed to score some meds on the way up) Lets not make use of the ladder that the contractors were using, by moving it around to the front and attacking the fire from there once we have mad it to the roof, lets make entry and then FIGHT to gain final entry and throw water from the inside while we wait for the ladder truck... which BTW takes forever to set out riggers (because in America BIGGER is better) and assemble the crew that has already gone off to the interior. I challenge any of you to watch a fire scene from a European fire service and compare the speed and efficiency.
I challenge you to learn about the fire service here before you run your mouth. 1. You don't use a contractor's ladder, who knows if it's even rated to fire service standards, not to mention any damage it has that you cant see, especially when you have at least 230 feet of ground ladders on the tiller and engine alone. 2. The ladder company or truck company as it's called doesn't pull hose, majority of the time they dont even carry hose or water. They are a support company, ventilation, search, forcible entry etc. 3. I've watched hours of European fire footage, you are comparing two completely different parts of the fire service. 4. If all you have to do in your free time is troll fire videos spewing your negative bullshit, maybe spend it training or learning more about your craft.
@@markpowers4242 pretty sure you missed the fact I was replying to the person who said they hate watching American videos. I'm in the US too bubs, and yea I have been on plenty of first due companies, engine, truck and rescue.
@@MrBNARick yeah man, I can do it all day. How do you run your mouth saying "I hate American fire videos" and bash the fire service and then try to defend it. Get lost slug
@@Zb197 Here is just an example Skippy LESS THAN A MINUTE ON SCENE AND OUTRIGGERS ON THE LADDER ARE ALREADY DEPLOYED! LESS THAN A MINUTE ON SCENE AND THEY ARE ALREADY THROWING WATER!!!!! LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES ON SCENE... FIRE EXTINGUISHED!!!! THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY, MANY EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND EUROPEAN FIREFIGHTERS... DON'T GO GETTING ALL PATRIOTIC BECAUSE YOUR FEELINGS WERE HURT. ua-cam.com/video/nQpN0s8m2kI/v-deo.html
Hey guys! It's really Okay to put water on that Visible Burning Material from the ground within one minute after arrival so it doesn't spread. The water stream will penetrate inside the rake edge and stop extension while you look for the source inside. That was some really irresponsible fire playing guys!
JB .... you still don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground. Take a class will ya! All these BS posts you keep putting up are still not impressing people.
@@nol7034 And you clearly haven't told me where I am Wrong. If you Know I'm wrong, then you should be able to Tell Me How! It is comments like yours that are BULLSHIT because they don't Teach anybody anything. See how that works? I have something to offer and you don't. You can't even debate me.
@Cameron Miller You repeated what some ignorant person told you very well. Now, go here and LEARN SOMETHING about Real Fire Fighting! ua-cam.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEzg384QZ4ovMA_6P7gCY3nJ.html ua-cam.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEw35c4z-PSM0hoKYiMLpHJC.html
@DC-8 Tailpost They call themselves "The Brotherhood" for that reason. They use that word and Bravery, Heroism. LODD Line Of Duty Death, and all the other macho terms to cover up the FACT that they are glorified water squirters and window breakers. If you put the fire out fast like you should, how can you risk your life and be a hero? That makes it Hot, Wet, Stinky WORK!!! Menial labor with Some skill evolved. The pity is, they can't get the window breaking and water squirting right. I'm talking about the Fire Fighters, not these other clowns! I was hoping to enlighten civilians to the reality of the JOB and inform young fire fighters but you know what? They are All Followers and they want to Follow the big names (FDNY) and departments, not someone who knows how to get the Job done.
I dare you to spend even ONE day in their job. Bet your bitch ass would be crying 6 hours into your 24 hour shift. I know a lot of full time firemen. They make good money and earn every dime of it
pathetic to stupid 6 ladder trucks the one used could be moved to a useful position 6 mins to get water on to fire. the men standing around send back to their station and be retrained... could they be trained to think what to do in an emergency
My reply after reading some comments - That fire was in the attic from the start of the video. A water can would have been pissing in the wind. Truck Companies have truck assignments - roofs ops, search, extension, etc. Engine Companies have Engine assignments - water and hoses. These guys did an excellent job!! Keep it up!
Although American firefighters are better prepared than us Argentines, I never understood why it takes so long to extinguish a fire, this is incredible to me, sorry for my bad English, I hope you understand.
I had been a fire/incident photog for quite a few FDs in the Walworth County, Wisconsin area and when I see guys do what I saw here it puts a lot of trust in these departments like most of the departments in Walworth County. They get to the scene and they RUN to do their job, they don't lackadaisically just walk around waiting to have someone tell them the next step or what needs to be done. They get water on the fire as soon as they can while other team members are checking for occupants & pets. They know their job and rush to do it to the best that they can.
This video had a great response from what I saw. Good video GAK!
They could have knocked down the visible burning material within one minute after arrival from the ground and prevented a lot of damage.
@@JB91710 and Superman could've blown cold air on the fire to freeze it out too!!!!
So you have never worn a set of bunkers?
@@timeversman9804 I had a full set that I had to wear
Yes, good video. Thank you !
I was there at lunch when this occurred. We were really Impressed with how the firemen handled the whole situation. We didn’t even have to get up. The firemen came with the hoses and went straight to the attic. Our steaks came out perfect and the Rubbard pudding was awesome. Thanks for a great job.
Davidson Lankford are you serious? We’re you not even a little scared? Sounds like a delicious lunch.
The $900,000.00 tractor drawn aerial just spotted itself in the collapse zone of a 3 story structure!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, "house fire", I think not, more like a 3 1/2 story multi-use commercial/apartment building. Also, a note to Fire Command Officer, ordering a charged handline to the 3rd story roof's landing may well have been more effective in suppressing the advance of the fire, than 3 firefighters with a pike pole and no water. Just suggesting.
Ever think that if they had blasted the outside fire before assessing what is going on inside that they might drive flaming embers into the building causing more spread of fire? They have reasons for what they do. Until you are an experienced firefighter, you will never know.
@@dougdiplacido2406I am a retired 30+ year Sr. Capt. veteran of a PFD, I know what I am talking about. BTW : I did not say anything about blasting the outside of any building. Learn to read with intelligent comprehension and you may yet get somewhere in your life !!!
A glass of water would have been better than a temperamental ol' K - Saw too, would you think?@@theshadow1559
@@theshadow1559 amen, brother! Still miss the old days. Every fire is a new challenge, countless variables. Plenty of myths...it's an art, depending on your resources.
agreed, first line in as they did, 2nd line to stop the exterior spread, which can definitely be done without negatively impacting what may be happening inside.
Nice job guys, tough building, fire in a tough spot. Great work getting in there and navigating that maze.
This doesn't look good right from the start with fire under the eves. This appears to be a difficult one to deal with, but they got it mostly knocked down pretty quick.
BR finally a comment from person that knows something about fire fighting. The armchair firefighters are out in force on this video. They all think they know more than the firefighters on the job. This was a great attack they did a great job for all the armchair firefighters why don’t you get out of the chair get on the department and learn something before you start your comments.
@@davidglaum2538 - It is specially strange because this was one of the fastest knockdowns I've seen.
The truth is, these guys did a great job of making it more complex and involving way more resources than needed. It is easy to see that a worker on a ladder inadvertently started a small fire while repairing the roof, stripping paint, ect...What is unfortunate is that nobody, either FD or civilian. had the good sense or thought to carry a simple extinguisher up the ladder, a child with a good super soaker could have controlled the fire. Even 8 minutes into the video before the hoseline gets up to the level, a skilled firefighter with a 2.5 gallon extinguisher could knock down the fire, get the thing overhauled, and be back at the house cooking lunch in 30 minutes. But yes, to the person who does not think in this way, these guys DID show that their training is paying off!
soker @@davidglaum2538
capi1lope Thank you for your comments now let’s look at the facts. First on scene had smoke showing so they had more fire than a hand pump could handle. Remember that as far as the amount of equipment remember that” it as better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it “. Fire can move very fast inside walls and up the roof you need to know where the fire is before you can attack it. Go to your local fire house and ask them what S.l.i.C.E. stands for in fire fighting.
@@capi1lope .. I never do this, but you sir are an idiot.
Looks like an old house that had several additions built around it.
Better training is needed. The first engine parked in the wrong place blocking the ladder truck. And Always keep the hose out of the street so others can approach.
Whoever's videoing this you're terrible at it. HOLD THE CAMERA STILL!!!
AGREED! Hold the damn thing still
I'm always amazed at how sooooo many of these fires happen right before an earthquake. That's the only reason I can think of as to why there is soooooo much shaking, wobbling, zooming in and out etc. on these videos. Either that or somehow there is a huge correlation between fires and amateur videographers with parkinsons being in the right place at the right time.
Larry Keene 😂😂😂
Reminds me of kids shooting bottle rockets that landed in leaves in the gutters of a neighbor's house. No one was home. The leaves ignited and the house burned down.
sr633 moral of the story is don’t trust your neighbors to parent their kids and clean your gutters!
Such an ugly addition to a Victorian. Put that building out of it’s misery.
SOMEBODY get up that ladder and save the FLAG...none of these nozzlenuts thought to TAKE THE FLAG DOWN?!?!?
The ladder truck was on the job well done to the crews nice catch
I get it, the house is huge not the fire!
🤣I too was waiting for the inferno!
Park that ladder already!!! Pulls up on the scene and continues to roll and brake while his guys are trying to get out.
The crew should know not to get out until the driver has the truck positioned where it's needed. Sometimes conditions or priorities change.
Great footage
Looks like a nice interior attack.
Good job pushing/fighting the fire back to the out side! Well done!
You CAN'T push fire...
ffjsb Yes you can.
@@albertledesma5173 WRONG. Guess you're not a firefighter. It's been PROVEN you can't.
ffjsb It’s been proven, it can indeed. Link your source here please.
@@albertledesma5173 you CLEARLY know NOTHING about firefighting.
www.firerescuemagazine.com/articles/print/volume-6/issue-10/strategy-and-tactics/can-you-really-push-fire.html
Or you can google the EXTENSIVE research UL did on the subject.
Ladder up on the B side before the fire department get on scene....maybe a contractor working on the roof ? Fire appears to be on the outside only but hard to tell by the video.
More likely in the attic space, though.
That's what I was thinking. Was also thinking why not carry a 2.5 gallon extinguisher up the ladder and put the fire out, but where's the fun in that?
Caught that as well. There's a section of flat roof there, perhaps a roofer's tar.
Seem low on manpower.
I like the North Bergen trucks... They're painted just like Chicago fire trucks...
So slow at putting water on it 🙄
Wow, the firefighters were inside very fast and they were brave to get so close.
The firehouse is literally 150 feet away.
US firefighters, the slowest FF in the whole world. Watch FF videos worldwide.
wrong. US firefighter the most aggressive in the world. There are always example that go against that, but if you know about the fire service the US has the absolute most aggressive tactics. In many parts of the world the owner of the building goes to jail if he/she has a fire in their home. Also in most parts of Europe they have more people assigned to prevention than suppression and their tactics are heavily focused on defensive attack.
@@tewksburydriver8624 How much video have you watched from other countries?? I'm guessing very little.
@@jackh577 .. I've seen quite a bit actually and a professor of mine that I'm still friends with is one of the top researchers in the NFPA. It is widely known that outside of the US firefighting is less aggressive. Good thing, bad thing, we can all judge that for ourselves. I'm from the Boston area and we are historically aggressive.
You and I do not have the same definition of "huge"... Nice work from the FD, however...
Eq2b siren Manuel please
Its a volunteer fire department,, cut them a break,,,
Usually Jersey City is called on a second alarm and puts the fire out for them ..
This is what happens in low budget fire depts. Its sad ,,
They are 100% a fully paid department. Check your facts.
Dam it’s a lot of firefighters on the roof . Hate to see if they all have E vac off the roof quick
fire was in the attic space of the larger section, they were ok on that part of the structure.
Is this in North Bergen New Jersey? I know there is a 10th Street in North Bergen NJ, and if so I used to live only a half hour north of this area??
yes, north Hudson FD
These fire videos bring out all the pro firefighters. Lol
Terrible video. I'm not going to watch it. Too much camera shaking, zooming and moving.
What did that roof crew hope to accomplish??
I love these guys and have been to many fires and worked with them all but my one pet peeve is the guy sent up the ladder to vent the roof wasted a good amount of time because he did not have on his good or mask and be ready to go on air if your brothers needed that vent like yesterday they would have cooked because you were not ready . come on guys be ready to go on air and work it's two seconds of your time that could save or kill a fellow firefighter
Lots of appliances!
Can you hold the camera still? How about showing the apparatus rolling in and laying out. Pretty poor.
Loudest loudest loudest loudest loudest loudest Manuel
8 Minutes into the Video and there is STILL no water running ! WHAT are these guys doing ??
German Firefighters working that slow would be fired immediately. Don`t they have ANY water in these trucks ?
Also @ the cameraperson : You clearly need to work on your skills. Holding the camera still would improve the quality immensely.
German firefighters don't go find the actual problem they spray flames they can see.
North Hudson ladder 2 Manuel
Please don't film something if you can't hold the camera still!
I really don't see any of YOUR videos up here Mr. Professional!
Damn straight!
@@johnwilkins866 troll
Then dont watch. Dickhead
Manuel
I don't think poking it with a metal bar is going to put it out.
That is not a house more like an apartment or Room and board maybe even bed & breakfast That is New Jersey, I had to look it up. Fire is always horrible My house burned down, good thing it was brick it took 3 months to rebuild my brother made a side net the McDonald's would be done before we would move back in I had 4 children and my husband People we did not know helped, we rented an old house and my 2 oldest stayed with friends from school. the last 2 fire here on youtube were on the upper floors The good part is they come back and check before they let anyone back in
It's an old house used now as a medical building.
I love that I worked as a nurse before I retired Memory care and advanced Assisted living Two different buildings on the same campus Thanks for letting me know. Alterra was the company I am 71 now and I need to have more to do, as soon as it is completed One is being built a block from where I live. I will Volunteer I do not need the money and I am really healthy my apartment is on the third floor I know it is my stairs
ay lah is that a merseyside appliance on the left.
wheres the hose for outside? fire is outside of place!
Gerald Alama Fire probably started inside first. You can drive the fire back inside if you hit it from outside. Just a few minutes from the arrival of the first engine there are firefighters inside. You can cause them to be scalded by the fire and water entering the building. Inside out unless no other choice
You drive the fire from inside out, not outside in
@@roadweary5252 You CAN'T push fire....
Gerald, if you'd been paying attention, you'd have seen that they extended a couple of hose lines inside up to the third floor where the fire was. There was a door to the outside right where the fire was. You clearly don't realize how much work it is to extend a hose line up to the third line of a building.
ffjsb I don’t recall using the word “push” however I digress as I may not have worded my reply properly
They didn't save the American Flag?
North Hudson ladder 2
Gads, hold the camera still!!!!
Lots of vehicles, lots of firefighters and NO water, don't US appliances have a first aid tank. A hose reel would have reached those eaves the first pumper should have had water on within minutes.
That's what I'm thinking here in St. Paul , MN. they have them a lot of fire are almost out before the rest of the fire arrive, I think volunteer here...
John Bratley wow the illusive armchair firefighter checks in! Hey genius, what if someone’s inside, or a firefighter is trying to get someone out? You know you can scald a person to death by putting. Water on too fast before a search? Guess you didn’t think of that
I seem to watch a lot of these firefighting videos, and it's very interesting to see the various firefighting techniques employed. I have a question for the professionals.
I understand the need to accurately assess exactly what's going on when you first arrive, and it takes a few minutes. But is there any harm in prioritizing getting water on any visible fire as this assessment is taking place? There seems to be a universal rule that that's just not going to happen! Enquiring minds want to know- why is that?
Thanks!
Thank you! I have seen what a difference a roof hole makes by viewing a video from a "helmet cam", and with your explanation, I can imagine that it causes more smoke and steam and such for the guys inside, ( having also seen how many fires are best f ought from the inside.) It always just seemed so counter-intuitive! But I think I get it now. Still tough to delay just getting the water on it- but knowledge, training and discipline will win the day.
Yes! I did catch that.
@Steve Flath
As an Officer in a large paid department, if I was in charge of that Ladder, I would have ordered hand tools, a saw, and a 1-3/4" line to go up with us, to knock that fire down AND for the protection of my crew and myself. Getting water on those flames would have been my first priority up on that flat roof.
elizabethtailor111 well there is a primary search needs to be done( secondary if needed) where to place trucks, hoses, ladders and stuff
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Please work on your camera skils
Slow, dumb, and sloppy firefighting....................................
Too much zooming, camera shaking and moving to watch.
8 min in the fire is growing exponentially and still no water on the fire, what is it with Americans does a fire need to reach a certain size before they are allowed to put water on it? Or are they paid by the hour? 🙁
David Tyndall , I do that all the time, so what is your point? Knock the visible fire down from the outside and then go inside and finish it off.
You guys are wasting too much time getting organised. Look at all the catastrophic fires in the U.S. ( where whole apartment buildings burn down or 5 or 6 houses in a row) and tell me again how good your system works.
@@johnnz4375 your argument is misinformed. First off, theres a lot to be said watching this video. Wind driven fire to start, older construction possible false ceilings or built up roof layers. First engine company had the line stretched in under 30 seconds that's damn good. And they had the awareness to stretch it dry so they burn them selves out. If I had to guess they were probably checking the ceiling in the upper floor to make sure it wasnt running the attic.
Second, you cant base all the videos you see on tactics alone, the US is building houses lighter and lighter everyday. These arent legacy construction homes anymore. And the fuel load is more volatile than it's ever been.
A lot of depts here dont like to just throw water at fire from outside, for various reasons. Go inside, find it, knock it down and look for extension.
Dont be a part of the problem In the fire service and talk shit about everyone else. It's not your dept, so dont worry about how they work.
John NZ I live not a mile from our local fire station! Guess who did not get a call when my hay shed caught fire?
I put that fire out myself with the aid of a garden hose it was ripping pretty good by the time the fire was spotted!
Saved the metal shed/minimal damage. And lost the 10 bales and 13 baby chickens that was inside.
Had I called the FD and waited the shed, the one next to it and anything in the vicinity would have been a loss.
Not that our local FD is slow/bad. It just that by the time they had mobilized and arrived the shed would have been a loss. After a good cleaning and paint job that shed was back in service and made it a couple more years before psycho storm came through and took it , the tree in the front yard, a couple of horse shades, oh and the power pole/internet lines all in one fell swoop!
I actually think our power company is worse than any FD as they apparently didn’t get the hay our line is on the ground memo! So when they charged the lines again I got to watch it ark all the way up the pole at 4 AM!
John NZ your truly are an asshole, first off as said here, why try destroying a building if you can get to the seat of the fire and get it out. Second you mass of shit, if you spray water, and someone is inside , or a firefighter is inside , you will scald them to death. So let the big boys use the trucks and you sit and watch like a good little boy with no comment
Good job. Fast & efficient work. But a fairly boring video and it looks like a business, not a "house." Perhaps *was* a house but now converted.
Burning down the house or the roof the roof the roof is on fire.
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max2680 would be if you knew how to spell
THIS HOUSE WILL BURN TO THE GROUND BEFORE THEY GET ANY WATER ON IT
Another Troll heard from....
Marvin Engman and your comment will be dismissed even before anyone reads it. Asshole comments get ignored
wtf are they doing? 7 minutes over,no water on the roof,3-4 climbing up the ladder,with no weapon,and apparently not wearing oxy mask. Around 7:50 minutes a guy waving his hand,like he got some smoke inhaled.
There were firemen on the inside attacking the fire at is's source. They will not blow water into a fire when there are personal in the building. That could create a great hazard for the fire fighters on the other side of the walls and under the roof.
You clearly don't know anything about firefighting. They use TOOLS, not weapons, they DO NOT wear Oxygen masks, and a tiller ladder truck almost never has a pump, water, and hoses.
They must have missed fire extinguisher training. Wow! They made that tiny fire freakin' complex didn't they?
@@capi1lope You're a special kind of stupid.
ffjsb They absolutely do wear oxygen masks! It’s part of their breathing apparatus. And yes they absolutely should be wearing them!
The Phoenix Fire department has lost 2 Fire fighters in close succession to job related cancers! The latest to die was 30 years old and had only been on the job for around 8 years. It doesn’t take much exposure to the nasty chemicals generated when any building burns to cause cancer. Every firefighter needs to be proactive over their own health. Wearing ones air mask is very important!
I hate watching videos of American firefighters. Slow AF! (it's 8:17 before someone that is trained to put out a fire hits the roof and he HAS NO HOSE of course it's Jersey and its a Dr's office... needed to score some meds on the way up) Lets not make use of the ladder that the contractors were using, by moving it around to the front and attacking the fire from there once we have mad it to the roof, lets make entry and then FIGHT to gain final entry and throw water from the inside while we wait for the ladder truck... which BTW takes forever to set out riggers (because in America BIGGER is better) and assemble the crew that has already gone off to the interior. I challenge any of you to watch a fire scene from a European fire service and compare the speed and efficiency.
I challenge you to learn about the fire service here before you run your mouth.
1. You don't use a contractor's ladder, who knows if it's even rated to fire service standards, not to mention any damage it has that you cant see, especially when you have at least 230 feet of ground ladders on the tiller and engine alone.
2. The ladder company or truck company as it's called doesn't pull hose, majority of the time they dont even carry hose or water. They are a support company, ventilation, search, forcible entry etc.
3. I've watched hours of European fire footage, you are comparing two completely different parts of the fire service.
4. If all you have to do in your free time is troll fire videos spewing your negative bullshit, maybe spend it training or learning more about your craft.
@@Zb197Care to chime in on my other observations?
BTW dipstick I live in the USA
@@markpowers4242 pretty sure you missed the fact I was replying to the person who said they hate watching American videos.
I'm in the US too bubs, and yea I have been on plenty of first due companies, engine, truck and rescue.
@@MrBNARick yeah man, I can do it all day. How do you run your mouth saying "I hate American fire videos" and bash the fire service and then try to defend it. Get lost slug
@@Zb197 Here is just an example Skippy LESS THAN A MINUTE ON SCENE AND OUTRIGGERS ON THE LADDER ARE ALREADY DEPLOYED! LESS THAN A MINUTE ON SCENE AND THEY ARE ALREADY THROWING WATER!!!!! LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES ON SCENE... FIRE EXTINGUISHED!!!! THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY, MANY EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND EUROPEAN FIREFIGHTERS... DON'T GO GETTING ALL PATRIOTIC BECAUSE YOUR FEELINGS WERE HURT.
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Hey guys! It's really Okay to put water on that Visible Burning Material from the ground within one minute after arrival so it doesn't spread. The water stream will penetrate inside the rake edge and stop extension while you look for the source inside. That was some really irresponsible fire playing guys!
JB .... you still don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground. Take a class will ya! All these BS posts you keep putting up are still not impressing people.
@@nol7034 And you clearly haven't told me where I am Wrong. If you Know I'm wrong, then you should be able to Tell Me How! It is comments like yours that are BULLSHIT because they don't Teach anybody anything. See how that works? I have something to offer and you don't. You can't even debate me.
@Cameron Miller You repeated what some ignorant person told you very well. Now, go here and LEARN SOMETHING about Real Fire Fighting!
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@@johnnykATL When you graduate from elementary school, try again. Tactics? That's what I talk in every video and it's what no one else talks.
@DC-8 Tailpost They call themselves "The Brotherhood" for that reason. They use that word and Bravery, Heroism. LODD Line Of Duty Death, and all the other macho terms to cover up the FACT that they are glorified water squirters and window breakers.
If you put the fire out fast like you should, how can you risk your life and be a hero? That makes it Hot, Wet, Stinky WORK!!! Menial labor with Some skill evolved. The pity is, they can't get the window breaking and water squirting right. I'm talking about the Fire Fighters, not these other clowns!
I was hoping to enlighten civilians to the reality of the JOB and inform young fire fighters but you know what? They are All Followers and they want to Follow the big names (FDNY) and departments, not someone who knows how to get the Job done.
FIRE FIGHTERS ARE OVER PAID, THEY NEED TO BE PAID FOR WORK THAT WAS DONE, THESE FIREMEN SHOULD NOT BE PAID
what? lmao
I dare you to spend even ONE day in their job. Bet your bitch ass would be crying 6 hours into your 24 hour shift. I know a lot of full time firemen. They make good money and earn every dime of it
pathetic to stupid 6 ladder trucks the one used could be moved to a useful position 6 mins to get water on to fire. the men standing around send back to their station and be retrained... could they be trained to think what to do in an emergency
Melvyn Smith and are you a firefighter? I think not... move on before you get smacked