1:48 The left machinegun on the M1A2 can't aim straight because of the CITV. For all I know, this is true of the real-world M1A2, but it's awfully annoying to be firing machineguns forward and having one of them spraying bullets into the air at a 45 degree angle.
It wasnt meant to be fired directly over the front. Remember the overlapping fields of fire with the .50 Cal...The loaders M240's Sector was from Front right fender to left rear. the .50 Cal was from Front Left fender to Back right. Also the .50 Cal was used for Aviation take down.
the left machine gun is used for anti aircraft surprisingly because a tow missile from any attack chopper could blow the M1A2 turrent right off the body if its placed right
Earl Abrams funny that you mention that, because during desert storm we tried destroying an abrams with a Hellfire missile from an apache. It ignited the ammo, but due to the blow-out doors, the ammunition just exploded upwards, as designed, and left the rest of the tank capable. We shot sabots at it to no avail. eventually the engineer assets just did the heavy work and recovered the tank. All they had to do was clean the inside, replace the ammo rack and blow out panels, and the tank was back in action within a couple weeks. amazing story, a true one. If they made the Abrams realistic to the real world, it would A) never be destroyed and B) would destroy everything it sees before it's detected.
My dad actually fought in the Abrams as a loader in Afghanistan a couple years ago. He said that in one of the battles the tank caught fire and the crew had to extinguish it while under heavy fire. Also petty sure the tanks ammo exploded but was shot out the back. He's very thankful to be alive. He also got to fire the main gun a couple times.
If the halon bottles didnt go off in the tank then there is an issue. only time we had to use manual fire extinguishers is if the halon fire suppression system didnt extinguish the fire fully.Thank goodness the Blowout panels worked since the crew survived the explosion. Your dad mustve been a marine. Army never sent tanks to Afghanistan. We were deployed to Iraq and I did 4 deployments in Iraq including the push to baghdad.
@@CCM1199 Yes my dad was a captain in the marines and was deployed in Afghanistan. He was on the ground calling in airstrikes but was an f-18a pilot for most of his time in service. If you have any question i'de have to ask him, that's all I know.
Also I think he said the ammo exploded, but not 100% sure. He did say that he had to fight a fire manually while being shot at. He wasn't always in an Abrams while in Afghanistan, only during certain times. Forgive me if I use any incorrect terms, I'm not an expert on this stuff. He was in charge of 19 other men and I think was fighting alongside the Georgians. He is one of the only men there at the time to bring home all his men alive, and I'm pretty sure he recieved a metal for it. I'de have to ask him though.
@Loki Leaves My dad was in just over 20 years. I asked and confirmed that he was the loader and not the commander because the commander in his tank was also the commander of all the tanks and was directing everyone, which my dad didnt know how to do. And my dad was a forward air controller so they were just giving him a position in the tank. He couldnt be gunner because he had never gone to tank school. When he originally joined the marines he was inlisted but eventually went to college and became an officer, giving him the opportunity to fly f18s. He had to go through flight school and was sent to a base in Iwakuni Japan in a squadrin called the bats where they had f18s. When we moved back to the States he was no longer a pilot and thats when he was deployed to Afghanistan. Eventually he was given another opportunity to fly f18s and he went to a retraining school or something like that in California and then back to Japan. He retired out of Japan
Patrik Ravolainen the M1A2 in game has lower armor values than the export model that was given to Sweden for testing. The rest are not “export models” as this person claims, but do have a number of issues regarding armor & models (as do basically all other top tier tanks)
I have been on the M1 Abrams series tank since 1997. M1 with 105MM to the M1A1SA and M1A2 SEPv1 and V2. If the M1A2 is in the game hopefully it has the designator feature. Plus the Ammo capacity of the M1A2 is 42 Main gun rounds. the Special Heat round he was talking about is the MPAT round. Multipurpose Anti tank round....Designed specifically not only to destroy light armor but Aviation as well...all the loader had to do was toggle to tip of the round from Air to ground. the XM908 (later designated M908) is the Bunker Buster (OR = Obscuration Reducing) round. I cannot wait to grind to the thank I rode for many years. BTW, the 120mm smooth bore is the German Rheinmetal M256 gun used on the Leopard 2 Tanks
There are 4 t72 variations and 2 t80 variations in the game but you can’t add any new Abrams? Basically all the Soviet mbts have reactive armor but the American up armored m1 isn’t in the game. Please add the M1A1 tusk and M1A2c (sep v3).
Mr Turner That is more believable. The depleted uranium armor is the same except the remove a whole chunk and add in a plate of DU. Since the original armor was 400ke. I’d say max is 650ke. Doesn’t make sense to go above. Gen 2 might improve it but not a lot. Gen 3 is the same but it has higher armor integrity.
@@hazardous458 but if gajin added the deoleted uranuim and the other classifed stuff it would be kinda op as only modern russian or high tier shells can pierce it
Gaijin if you want the M1 and M1IP to stay at 10.0. You should remove the M735 and make the M773 the stock shell and M833 or M900 as the upgradable ammo. M735 was long decomissioned before the M1 Abrams rolled off the production line and it never used the M735 and btw M1IP used M833 APFSDS Round during the Gulf War.
Since you did a video about the Abrams...Howabout do a Pages of history about Operation Dessert Storm. I know this isnt "The shooting Range" but i just wanna see a rly sick cinematic by War thunder
I have only just finished Germany ground forces that took me half a year with premium, by the time I have got everything in the game they will have added modern tanks and helicopters and jets
Please add the Spähpanzer 1 at 6.7 for the German researchable tank tech tree, as playing 6.7 without the ru251 is arguably more boring than playing other nations at that battle rating.
You know they will not give the m1 m833 or remove it. They want the m1 to be a block that you have to pay through to get to the m1a1 and m1a2. There is a reason we did not get the HA mod for the m1a1, why unlock a module when they can force people in to skipping into the m1a2.
Wafflecopter Wuz I agree with what you have to say. They just want more vehicles for you to have to grind through or buy. It is frustrating though how the M1 actually used M833 and M900 while it was in service, and Gaijin just completely ignores the fact (They do ignore a lot though lol). The M1 is practically unplayable now, you can’t pen anything from the front. I know I probably sound like a fanboy, but I’ve been playing the abrams since it came out and it’s just really frustrating now
Please update the singleplayer missions for every vehicle with their historical match up ingame please for tanks , ships and Helicopters and new avaition vehicles that came this year .
1:00 The Germans were the ones who dropped out because it was too expencive. The Americans stayed and produced a cheaper variant of the mbt-70 called the xm-803
please put the xm-1 at 9.3, its too much if it faces a lineup consisting of 8.0-7.7, i know it normally would not face 7.7, but if you have a french line up that you cant have a full 8.0 and like me use amx30 (7.7) + amx50 (8.0) the xm-1 will always destroy people with similar linups, but if you would put in in 9.3 it would be much more balanced, because at 9.0 it can face a lot of targets that have a little chance of getting a good hit, but the xm1 just needs to hit anywhere in the front and well you are dead... i have seen so many people(including me) just leaving battles when they have 8.0 or smaller facing a xm1, but moving it to 9.3 would fix all those problems, im sure the xm1 will preform good at 9.3-10.3 battles
I hate to burst your bubble but the performance of both XM-1 tanks in top tier were already tested and proven that the tanks wouldn't have a survival rate like the m1/m1a1/m1a2 so pretty much it's gonna stay where it is albeit unknowingly.
it's funny because they wont buff abrams armor, irl the only thing u can knock this tank when facing the front is the lucky shot from turret ring, and disable the cannon, there's no way you are getting throughthe lower hull
Oh god... a CROWs mounted M1A2SEPv2? Ill pass on that...They need to add the TIS to the Tanks. All I saw was a FLIR system and thats incorrect especially to someone who has been on the M1 Series Tanks forever and a day. They need to get the ammo correct as well. M829A2 and M829A3 are the standard rounds for Sabot, M830A1 is HEAT, M908 is the OR round and M1028 is the Canister round (wont be in game unless there are dismounts implemented).
Jose Mercado I mean if so, the leopard 2a5 should get dm53 and it’s proper composite side skirts. Apparently the leopard 2a5 composite side skirt can stop up to 620mm of kinetic when angled and 1400mm of ce when angled.
Jackson Ridgeway thank you for understanding simple physics, these darts don’t pass through whole, like the game modeled it. They shatter into a billion molten fragments then disperse in a fire ball. Now a whole playerbase has this misunderstanding of physics. Good job gaijin
@@grumpyshumpy no problemo just happen to read up on these things a lot and my dad also happens to have been in desert storm where these rounds were used and he loaded them
@@firepower7017 the m4a3 105 was built in mind as a mobile artillery piece against infantry and bunkers but gaijin still put that in the game. i dont see why not
I love low ranks doe... And britain has the easiest airplane tech tree u need to research like for rank 1 planes or 3 to get to rank 2. Other tech tree's require 6 i think
The M1 has been able to pen Soviet tanks from 2000m away anywhere due to the fact they kept getting better rounds before russian armor could over come the M829 APFSDS DU round variant they were using at the time. They have the M829 A4 now but not much is known about it though considering it's secretive nature. If only the they could model the M1A2 armor accurately but sadly it's classified stuff so they can't.
John Phillips M829 is okay. M829a1 was really good cause that time, they were facing t72 and it had no problem penning. M829a3 is designed to defeat Russian Kontact era while keeping good penetration, it’s pretty slow at 1550 m/s. M829a4 is the same thing with a tiny change that doesn’t effect the round performance.
Oh also as a matter fact you can look this up for yourself they got an Abrams tank stuck in the mud to other Abrams tank try to pull it out but they couldn’t so they started shooting their own tank to destroy it they cannot blow the tank up the tank will not explode. They had to catch it on fire from the inside look that up as well also look up the Abrams hitting IED in the road doing the Willie You will be amazed at how much damage at these tanks have taken and keep driving but it seems like a top-tier doesn’t matter what tank your end it’s one hit kills most of the time doesn’t matter if it’s The front of the tank side the tank or back of the tank Unless you are in a Russian tank LOL
They need to bring out the is-7 again cause they released war thunder on Xbox around the time it was ending and the fact the getting containers to gather parts takes so long as well as being new to war thunder and it being brand new to me I had no idea what to to get anything researched until recently when they brought out the broken VT1-2
They answered that on the Recent Live stream ...Historic Map Battle will only be events . and I doubt you will see anymore player then what we have now. Heck you have a 50/50 shot of surviving matches now cause people play like it is WoT.
Goddammit Gaijin! Shaped charges are not molten! REEEE Also, failed to mention the XM-803 prototype between the MBT-70 and M1? Would have at least been worth bringing up
B-b-but it called HEAT rounds Koala - so it MUST be molten right? Copper melts when lots of heat is applied. 120mm HEAT must mean 120 heatsies went into the copper - and that is too many for it to handle without melting! /s
As much as I enjoy these videos, it's a little sad to see them only talking about the vehicles we currently have, or have had confirmed are coming to the game. I love war machines and the history behind their designs, but I kind of feel cheated when they leave gaps in the story, while being bang on the money elsewhere. Here, the early part about the prototypes was very well done, and for the most part, everything else was well explained and not much was left out up until the M1A1. There was a lot of further development on the M1A1, new tech, new armour standards, and many more upgrades that came before the M1A2, yet all was forgotten here in this video because we have the the next step up.
Billder Thats even less though. The only upgrade is more armor. I honestly don’t know anything different. In real life, there’s a bunch of changes but it doesn’t apply to war thunder.
@@hazardous458 That's pretty much the entire point of my original comment. They only mention things when it applies to the game, which as someone who has an interest in this sort of stuff beyond the confines of the game, brings me a good deal of dissatisfaction.
>Area under the turret IRL that weakspot is irrelevant. Too small of a target to hit, and most of the bounce shots that happen from APFSDS shouldn't even happen as dart rounds are practically almost completely destroyed from deflecting off armor.
Question: If HEAT Projectiles are easy enough to protect against, then why does everyone still have a HEAT projectile(talking about eral world tanks, not the tanks in game)?
Oh yes, the tank i will probably reach after playing for 3 years
Modderhoop the tank I will never reach because my computer is a potato
@@donnawasserman2612 same T_T
im researching it right now and it took over a year to do it
@@donnawasserman2612 get a better pc dude, at 1080p its not that hard to run, even with some cheap €200 GPU's
@@rafaeld.soriano7627 how many hours a week you played?
Devs: We will not be adding depleted uranium into our game
Bruce: The M1A1 APFSDS with its *depleted uranium penetrator*
Checkmate Gaijin
Slap
new mechanic:
crew will die from radiation
Slices like a hot knife through butter.
@@vertexpoland5729 it's at least at a safe level.
@@hughmungus5033 yeah I know, but russian service books for the abrams know better
The word “Freedom” wasn’t used enough in this video.
Eagle: AAAAAAAA
@ it’s actually just too much freedom rn.
8:43 here we see the Soviet blowout panels at work, also known as the 'turret'.
but crew in turret are dead
@@smokyblackeyes3615 it's a joke
@@smokyblackeyes3615 thats the joke...
That one "flew" right over your head
@@smokyblackeyes3615 that one sure didn’t ‘penetrate’ that thick skull of yours
Woah! He pronounces it “Abrams” and not “Abrahams.” Thanks Bruce!
@Bleagle what is that?
Might as well call it the Jesus tank
The tank is the president
“All major variations are present in War Thunder”
Where’s the M1A2 Mobile Bridge Carrier?
Wheres the Abrams AD?
The wolverine would be a nice addition to the game
@@leviheichou1406 no such tank. Unless youre talking about the M1A1D. Only thing about that tank is that the entire system is digital
Its called the Wolverine.
@@CCM1199 no the M1 AD was a concept Air defense vehicle
1:48 The left machinegun on the M1A2 can't aim straight because of the CITV. For all I know, this is true of the real-world M1A2, but it's awfully annoying to be firing machineguns forward and having one of them spraying bullets into the air at a 45 degree angle.
It wasnt meant to be fired directly over the front. Remember the overlapping fields of fire with the .50 Cal...The loaders M240's Sector was from Front right fender to left rear. the .50 Cal was from Front Left fender to Back right. Also the .50 Cal was used for Aviation take down.
the left machine gun is used for anti aircraft surprisingly because a tow missile from any attack chopper could blow the M1A2 turrent right off the body if its placed right
Earl Abrams funny that you mention that, because during desert storm we tried destroying an abrams with a Hellfire missile from an apache. It ignited the ammo, but due to the blow-out doors, the ammunition just exploded upwards, as designed, and left the rest of the tank capable. We shot sabots at it to no avail. eventually the engineer assets just did the heavy work and recovered the tank. All they had to do was clean the inside, replace the ammo rack and blow out panels, and the tank was back in action within a couple weeks. amazing story, a true one. If they made the Abrams realistic to the real world, it would A) never be destroyed and B) would destroy everything it sees before it's detected.
My dad actually fought in the Abrams as a loader in Afghanistan a couple years ago. He said that in one of the battles the tank caught fire and the crew had to extinguish it while under heavy fire. Also petty sure the tanks ammo exploded but was shot out the back. He's very thankful to be alive. He also got to fire the main gun a couple times.
If the halon bottles didnt go off in the tank then there is an issue. only time we had to use manual fire extinguishers is if the halon fire suppression system didnt extinguish the fire fully.Thank goodness the Blowout panels worked since the crew survived the explosion. Your dad mustve been a marine. Army never sent tanks to Afghanistan. We were deployed to Iraq and I did 4 deployments in Iraq including the push to baghdad.
@@CCM1199 Yes my dad was a captain in the marines and was deployed in Afghanistan. He was on the ground calling in airstrikes but was an f-18a pilot for most of his time in service. If you have any question i'de have to ask him, that's all I know.
Also I think he said the ammo exploded, but not 100% sure. He did say that he had to fight a fire manually while being shot at. He wasn't always in an Abrams while in Afghanistan, only during certain times. Forgive me if I use any incorrect terms, I'm not an expert on this stuff. He was in charge of 19 other men and I think was fighting alongside the Georgians. He is one of the only men there at the time to bring home all his men alive, and I'm pretty sure he recieved a metal for it. I'de have to ask him though.
Braedyn Howard It’s pretty obvious when your ammo detonates.
@Loki Leaves My dad was in just over 20 years. I asked and confirmed that he was the loader and not the commander because the commander in his tank was also the commander of all the tanks and was directing everyone, which my dad didnt know how to do. And my dad was a forward air controller so they were just giving him a position in the tank. He couldnt be gunner because he had never gone to tank school. When he originally joined the marines he was inlisted but eventually went to college and became an officer, giving him the opportunity to fly f18s. He had to go through flight school and was sent to a base in Iwakuni Japan in a squadrin called the bats where they had f18s. When we moved back to the States he was no longer a pilot and thats when he was deployed to Afghanistan. Eventually he was given another opportunity to fly f18s and he went to a retraining school or something like that in California and then back to Japan. He retired out of Japan
5:33 What are you talking about. Any time I get shot there all that plate does is increase damage. Correct you spall liners Gaijin.
Creighton Abrams was also commander of the 4th Armored, 37th Tank Battalion in General George Patton's Third Army in WWII.
Gaijin, pls add Thunderbolt VII
So are the Americans going to get the homebrewed Abrams or are we still getting export models?
hi NOD CORP wafflecopter :D
What you mean with this?
They have Data only for export models btw the M1A2C and M1A2 Sep and Sep v2 are HIGHLY classified.
we are working on getting through the snails thick shell.
Patrik Ravolainen the M1A2 in game has lower armor values than the export model that was given to Sweden for testing. The rest are not “export models” as this person claims, but do have a number of issues regarding armor & models (as do basically all other top tier tanks)
This was an amazing tank to achieve after a long grind...until a month later when the Leopard 2A6 and T90 came out...
I still hold a grudge against gaijin for removing the maus from the tech tree
Who doesnt? that was really lazy and stupid decision
Same
You're a fool
@@gilbertressel589 no u
Gilbert Ressel, what do you mean?
Its really cute listening to Gaijin talk about the DU then not delivering.
I have been on the M1 Abrams series tank since 1997. M1 with 105MM to the M1A1SA and M1A2 SEPv1 and V2. If the M1A2 is in the game hopefully it has the designator feature. Plus the Ammo capacity of the M1A2 is 42 Main gun rounds. the Special Heat round he was talking about is the MPAT round. Multipurpose Anti tank round....Designed specifically not only to destroy light armor but Aviation as well...all the loader had to do was toggle to tip of the round from Air to ground. the XM908 (later designated M908) is the Bunker Buster (OR = Obscuration Reducing) round. I cannot wait to grind to the thank I rode for many years. BTW, the 120mm smooth bore is the German Rheinmetal M256 gun used on the Leopard 2 Tanks
Ok I want the M1A2 historically accurate.
The nerfed family
Pd: I know mbts are still classified
Not the M1 Series Tanks...They have been Declassified...only thing classified on the tank is the Armor Composition.
@@CCM1199 which is the most important thing?
@@laszlokocsi1825 yeah mostly front hull armor
There are 4 t72 variations and 2 t80 variations in the game but you can’t add any new Abrams? Basically all the Soviet mbts have reactive armor but the American up armored m1 isn’t in the game. Please add the M1A1 tusk and M1A2c (sep v3).
Yes totally agree
M1A1HA and not to mention the M1A1SA
And BUSK for the Bradley
Until you implement the actual armor values
Mr Turner What are the actual armor values?
Hazardous Aprox upwards of 700mm of equivalent steel, and more on the newest version
Mr Turner That is more believable. The depleted uranium armor is the same except the remove a whole chunk and add in a plate of DU. Since the original armor was 400ke. I’d say max is 650ke. Doesn’t make sense to go above. Gen 2 might improve it but not a lot. Gen 3 is the same but it has higher armor integrity.
@@hazardous458 but if gajin added the deoleted uranuim and the other classifed stuff it would be kinda op as only modern russian or high tier shells can pierce it
@@DieKaase exactly, and we can’t have Americans being stronger.
How about fixing the the turret ring size it’s incredibly disproportionate to its real life counterparts
The abrams may not be unstoppable, but it sure has a great reputation for being the toughest.
Every self proclaimed War Thunder tank historian: ( English captions at 0:08 )
I thought at first it was spelled correctly then i saw the "h".
what
The Addams family
More like the Abrams family!
@@pyeitme508 W-w-what... did you not realize the joke. I now forbid you from ever using the Abrams
Yay, fix the rear depression now?
Gaijin if you want the M1 and M1IP to stay at 10.0. You should remove the M735 and make the M773 the stock shell and M833 or M900 as the upgradable ammo. M735 was long decomissioned before the M1 Abrams rolled off the production line and it never used the M735 and btw M1IP used M833 APFSDS Round during the Gulf War.
Bring back gen 2 thermals for the M1A2!
Since you did a video about the Abrams...Howabout do a Pages of history about Operation Dessert Storm.
I know this isnt "The shooting Range" but i just wanna see a rly sick cinematic by War thunder
Well considering that the M1 chewed through T72’s during that operation I doubt that Gajin would do that, considering their... “favoritism”
So when is the xm1 gonna it’s composite armour for its frontal hull
It wont change anything
yes the abrams was rolling off the factory floor in 1918 4:40
I think the should add the M1A2 TUSK II
I have only just finished Germany ground forces that took me half a year with premium, by the time I have got everything in the game they will have added modern tanks and helicopters and jets
7:58
“The tank also has access to a versatile
H E E T
FS shell that is effective against both ground and air targets...”
It's S H E E T fs
It has depleted uriniam armor and shells
Gaijin:well yes but no
If only the M1A2 armor was actually realistic
5:49
Bruce: “-Upper-glacis plate is vulnerable”
Me: *visible confusion*
You know.....
*Bounce and hit the turret ring*
I no longer play the game for almost 2 years but still watch it's vids
Please add the Spähpanzer 1 at 6.7 for the German researchable tank tech tree, as playing 6.7 without the ru251 is arguably more boring than playing other nations at that battle rating.
Add M833 or remove 105mm M1
You know they will not give the m1 m833 or remove it. They want the m1 to be a block that you have to pay through to get to the m1a1 and m1a2. There is a reason we did not get the HA mod for the m1a1, why unlock a module when they can force people in to skipping into the m1a2.
Wafflecopter Wuz I agree with what you have to say. They just want more vehicles for you to have to grind through or buy. It is frustrating though how the M1 actually used M833 and M900 while it was in service, and Gaijin just completely ignores the fact (They do ignore a lot though lol). The M1 is practically unplayable now, you can’t pen anything from the front. I know I probably sound like a fanboy, but I’ve been playing the abrams since it came out and it’s just really frustrating now
Gib DM 69 or remove 120mm 2k
"We're pretty sure that the Abrams is here to stay."
👀 Are you sure about that, Gaijin?
What about the family for the planes like the Bf-109's and the A6M zero's
Bf109 was done earlier
They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky - the Abrams Family !
Touche 💀💀💀💀💀
U deserve more likes and less freedom (at least if that was a sort of insult against the Abrams)
PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AS IT'S JUST A JOKE.
Please update the singleplayer missions for every vehicle with their historical match up ingame please for tanks , ships and Helicopters and new avaition vehicles that came this year .
Will there be armor packages for the abrams? It does get additional side armor with most.
Noice not a triggering title
If it was the *"Abrahams"* that put in the title
It would result into a nuclear war
I'm gertting trigger happy just by thinking about it.
I thought IP stands for improved protection
Is there gonna be a Tusk version for the Abrams?
Would be nice to have a TUSK Version in-game. Had fun with it on deployment and actually used a remote controlled Tusk fitted turretless Abrams.
@@CCM1199 opsec
Milan Siroky not Opsec
Bring back the maus!
YOU SHOULD wait to event
Perfetto Garnett when that event comes i will be ready.
@@canadianstalin1945 and that evrnt will be like shipyard mm
László Kocsi oh no
Perfetto Garnett NOPE
1:00 The Germans were the ones who dropped out because it was too expencive. The Americans stayed and produced a cheaper variant of the mbt-70 called the xm-803
Gaijin really unrealistically nerfed the Abrams armour values over some nationalistic reason. Armour is way less compared to real life
Would like to see ammo types for SPAA and AAA tanks for a video for new players knows what to use.
I noticed the ingame is from before the Sound File change ..I miss some of the sounds that they messed up ..
Fun fact: the 120 mm gun is From Switzerland ( reihnmetall Defense )
A weapon of war made by a country that doesn't participate in war, how ironic
@@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757What a funny statement as countries tend to develop new weapons and tools of warfare in peacetime.
6:38 ... up to 1000 m! That's 1 m. thick plates?
please put the xm-1 at 9.3, its too much if it faces a lineup consisting of 8.0-7.7, i know it normally would not face 7.7, but if you have a french line up that you cant have a full 8.0 and like me use amx30 (7.7) + amx50 (8.0) the xm-1 will always destroy people with similar linups, but if you would put in in 9.3 it would be much more balanced, because at 9.0 it can face a lot of targets that have a little chance of getting a good hit, but the xm1 just needs to hit anywhere in the front and well you are dead... i have seen so many people(including me) just leaving battles when they have 8.0 or smaller facing a xm1, but moving it to 9.3 would fix all those problems, im sure the xm1 will preform good at 9.3-10.3 battles
I hate to burst your bubble but the performance of both XM-1 tanks in top tier were already tested and proven that the tanks wouldn't have a survival rate like the m1/m1a1/m1a2 so pretty much it's gonna stay where it is albeit unknowingly.
I refuse
it's funny because they wont buff abrams armor, irl the only thing u can knock this tank when facing the front is the lucky shot from turret ring, and disable the cannon, there's no way you are getting throughthe lower hull
Can we see a buff to the m1 Abrams armor I know it's classified but with how many weakpoints it has 500 mm on the turret wouldn't be too bad
Mario Garza The armor was leaked. It’s 400mm against ke
Can’t wait if they Add the M1A2 sep and m1a2 sep V2 and maybe in the near future the M1A2 sep v3 with trophy system
Oh god... a CROWs mounted M1A2SEPv2? Ill pass on that...They need to add the TIS to the Tanks. All I saw was a FLIR system and thats incorrect especially to someone who has been on the M1 Series Tanks forever and a day. They need to get the ammo correct as well. M829A2 and M829A3 are the standard rounds for Sabot, M830A1 is HEAT, M908 is the OR round and M1028 is the Canister round (wont be in game unless there are dismounts implemented).
Jose Mercado I mean if so, the leopard 2a5 should get dm53 and it’s proper composite side skirts. Apparently the leopard 2a5 composite side skirt can stop up to 620mm of kinetic when angled and 1400mm of ce when angled.
Hazardous If you want more we can add more CAS to the US team which would be great.
M1 abrams have the t34 problem of looking all the same but not really the same.
There's also always 3 more Abrams tanks around the corner when you kill one,just like with T-34. (At least in War Thunder)
Can someone explain to a civilian why a mere 5 mm difference can lead to different characteristics, especially with modern shells?
*Tinfoil hat*
GM won the competition for the MBT contract, but the government decided Chrysler needed a bailout more.
Surprised chrysler ain't just government owned at this point 😂
Nice vid on the history of the Abrams.
Hmmm, premium Egyptian Abrams please, Gaijin?
LMAO! you watch this is going to happen. they love premium ideas
Egyptian Abrams is Just an Abrams with Steel Armor instead of the composite armor we have.
if this wasnt sarcastic u are the reason why top tier is fked just like what happend when xm1 came out
And now put that Br up to 9.7 with
XM-1, Leopard A1A1 (L/44) and Type 74G.
That is not depleted uranium gaijin. If it was all successful penetrations would be one shots. And the round is said to have 550 or so mm of pen.
Jackson Ridgeway thank you for understanding simple physics, these darts don’t pass through whole, like the game modeled it. They shatter into a billion molten fragments then disperse in a fire ball. Now a whole playerbase has this misunderstanding of physics. Good job gaijin
@@grumpyshumpy no problemo just happen to read up on these things a lot and my dad also happens to have been in desert storm where these rounds were used and he loaded them
Yet gaijin is still using the export armor models and still no add on Armor like the TUSK
TUSK was built to survive the tricky situation of Urban combat, and there are not many of those in the game.
@@firepower7017 the m4a3 105 was built in mind as a mobile artillery piece against infantry and bunkers but gaijin still put that in the game. i dont see why not
I love low ranks doe... And britain has the easiest airplane tech tree u need to research like for rank 1 planes or 3 to get to rank 2. Other tech tree's require 6 i think
Looks a lot like a finished MBT-80...
5:28 yeah sure, but I still burn down if the bulkheaded fuel tanks light on fire
The legendary abrams………. In warthunder turms breaths in the direction of abrams…… back to lobby
The M1 has been able to pen Soviet tanks from 2000m away anywhere due to the fact they kept getting better rounds before russian armor could over come the M829 APFSDS DU round variant they were using at the time. They have the M829 A4 now but not much is known about it though considering it's secretive nature. If only the they could model the M1A2 armor accurately but sadly it's classified stuff so they can't.
John Phillips M829 is okay. M829a1 was really good cause that time, they were facing t72 and it had no problem penning. M829a3 is designed to defeat Russian Kontact era while keeping good penetration, it’s pretty slow at 1550 m/s. M829a4 is the same thing with a tiny change that doesn’t effect the round performance.
@@hazardous458 the M829A4 still has classified features and specs. It's not possible to know for sure what it has.
John Phillips www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2015/pdf/army/2015m829a4.pdf
Hazardous m829e4 is known as a super penetrator and is specifically designed to defeat upcoming heavy era
M774 is quite useless in current version of the game. Why not M833 for every 105mm abrams tanks?(not for XM-1, though)
-"I remember those day when oil is our drink" -
I'm at the M103 and I really want the Abrams.
trust me you don't, you'll have more fun playing the XM1 then the actual Abrams
I'm T54 and T55A (gold) Rank V and i really want the T-72B
Oh also as a matter fact you can look this up for yourself they got an Abrams tank stuck in the mud to other Abrams tank try to pull it out but they couldn’t so they started shooting their own tank to destroy it they cannot blow the tank up the tank will not explode. They had to catch it on fire from the inside look that up as well also look up the Abrams hitting IED in the road doing the Willie You will be amazed at how much damage at these tanks have taken and keep driving but it seems like a top-tier doesn’t matter what tank your end it’s one hit kills most of the time doesn’t matter if it’s The front of the tank side the tank or back of the tank Unless you are in a Russian tank LOL
Wheres our M1A2 SEP V3?
Not *yet*
Vehicles used today in the u.s, A10 Warthog, F22 Raptor, M1 Abrams, AC130, and I forgot the helicopter, B2 Spirit I think it's b2 idk
They only focus their armor on the turret🤦♂️
The U.S. is working on the M1A3 variant
@Omega Sirius question is, what will the upgrades be?
They need to bring out the is-7 again cause they released war thunder on Xbox around the time it was ending and the fact the getting containers to gather parts takes so long as well as being new to war thunder and it being brand new to me I had no idea what to to get anything researched until recently when they brought out the broken VT1-2
Cant wait for the m1a3 to come out soon
Where is the m1 tusk?
Fix M1A2 model
More info pls watch this: ua-cam.com/video/4VJEmLSTmqI/v-deo.html
That’s right I’m the top dog
Gaijin why dont you make real historical map battle where hundreds of player can participate as real war
They answered that on the Recent Live stream ...Historic Map Battle will only be events . and I doubt you will see anymore player then what we have now. Heck you have a 50/50 shot of surviving matches now cause people play like it is WoT.
@@douglaswhite6702 thats depressing
their servers cant handle it, they dont have the intelligence needed to make it happen, and if it requires spending money, gaijin wont do it
They are not gonna do it cause it requieres a extra effort
Let our voice reach gaijin if we want this, dont keep guessing that they are not going to do it.
Goddammit Gaijin! Shaped charges are not molten! REEEE
Also, failed to mention the XM-803 prototype between the MBT-70 and M1? Would have at least been worth bringing up
Hey Koala.
B-b-but it called HEAT rounds Koala - so it MUST be molten right? Copper melts when lots of heat is applied. 120mm HEAT must mean 120 heatsies went into the copper - and that is too many for it to handle without melting! /s
is there any information to the swedish tech tree coming up?
still waiting for it so i can finally grind all the way up to the Viggen
The Swedish air tree will be added in 1.95. So in December
I already can tell u that Swedish are currently using the Leopard2a5 or Strigzvan 122 and more armored version of the Leo 2a5.
@@fabio6170 só nothing original huh
Bro I want that weird ass turtle tank that's in WoT. I'm tempted to go through the Swedish tech tree.
For one milion subs: 1 hour special video... The ''T-'' Family!
As much as I enjoy these videos, it's a little sad to see them only talking about the vehicles we currently have, or have had confirmed are coming to the game. I love war machines and the history behind their designs, but I kind of feel cheated when they leave gaps in the story, while being bang on the money elsewhere.
Here, the early part about the prototypes was very well done, and for the most part, everything else was well explained and not much was left out up until the M1A1. There was a lot of further development on the M1A1, new tech, new armour standards, and many more upgrades that came before the M1A2, yet all was forgotten here in this video because we have the the next step up.
Billder M1a1 was an m1ip with bigger gun and fcs. Armor stays the same.
@@hazardous458 I'm referring to the upgrades that came between the M1A1 and A2 standards, not the upgrades between the base M1 and the M1A1.
Billder Thats even less though. The only upgrade is more armor. I honestly don’t know anything different.
In real life, there’s a bunch of changes but it doesn’t apply to war thunder.
@@hazardous458 That's pretty much the entire point of my original comment. They only mention things when it applies to the game, which as someone who has an interest in this sort of stuff beyond the confines of the game, brings me a good deal of dissatisfaction.
Billder Ah, i see what you mean. I recommend to read on the history of the m1 abrams.
Did someone say: OIL?!
So... is 'bleeding edge' worse or equal to 'cutting edge'?
Better if we look at context
It's just a more visceral metaphor
>Area under the turret
IRL that weakspot is irrelevant. Too small of a target to hit, and most of the bounce shots that happen from APFSDS shouldn't even happen as dart rounds are practically almost completely destroyed from deflecting off armor.
Battle of 73 Easting Mission when?
Doesnt egypt use the m1a1 not the a2?
Oh yeah m1a2 total has composite armor and The depleted uranium armor
egyptian and moroccan M1's are NOT M1A2's, they are M1A1's
I want to see a macarthur and a t-14 armata tank in the future
where is the TUSK and SET mod for Abrams
Question: If HEAT Projectiles are easy enough to protect against, then why does everyone still have a HEAT projectile(talking about eral world tanks, not the tanks in game)?
HEAT projectile can also be used to destroy soft target and buildings
Fw 190 family? Me 109, Me 262, A6m/A7m families?
Sooooo..... What about the M1A1HA and the M1A1HC and not to forget better APFSDS shells?
i agree at the same time they will have to give like a minimum of DM53 to the Leo2A5 and DM33 to the A4