Matt Ishbia absolutely ran this team into the ground. He walked into a fucking championship contender Phoenix Suns team and started managing the team with the same logic that a 12 year old playing NBA2K for the first time would be operating with. And the only reason more fans aren’t calling for him to sell the team is because he’s blinding fans with $2 hot dogs and popcorn. Easily the worst team owner in the NBA. He makes James Dolan look like a genius.
The suns were never a true contender. That 2021 finals run skewed people’s view of that team. Every team the suns faced was hurt. The booker era suns has NEVER beaten a healthy playoff team. That doesn’t sound like a contender to me
As a Blazer fan, I’d rather have Matt Ishbia than Jody Allen, an owner that only inherited the team from her brother’s death and doesn’t care about the team at all. In fact, the only reason she hasn’t sold is so she can collect a check that she gets for being an owner.
As a Suns fan I 100% acknowledge the current chaotic nature of this team and cloudy future, but please understand Nurkic is the least self-aware player I’ve ever watched. He legitimately thinks he’s an all NBA talent when the reality is he is the worst rotation player in the league. He took the Draymond stuff last year way too far and kept tweeting about it months after it happened. Have to take his comments with a massive grain of salt
I can't speak to the talent part of your comment, but the Draymond part is perfcetly acceptable. I don't know about you but if some dude punched me for no reason, I would tweet about it for months.
"I am certain that if the suns are trading their 2031 pick for those 3 to utah they HAVE a deal set up" 2 days later: "Suns made trade for picks with no Butler trade lined up" 😂
This may seem insane, but maybe the Suns should trade Booker and Durant for assets. This team won't ever be contenders since all they have are their big three.
The nature of the clause means the player can waive it whenever he wants. That's the risk of providing the incentive to land a big name. You give them all the power.
Players union wouldn't want that precedent of conditions within a contract being altered by a trade, also its legally dubious to say the least. Suns took on Beals contract in the trade, all of it, all 57 million a year, bonuses, and yes the No Trade Clause, they took on the risk, they shouldn't be allowed to bitch and whine (I'm a suns fan btw and hated that trade from day one) now that it didn't play out.
Theyre never calling it quits. Like i said they took their first mortgage out getting Kevin Durant. They get their second mortgage getting a player no one wanted in Bradley beal. And they're flirting with getting a home equity line of credit to get someone else.
What you mean? That team with Paul didn’t have any scorers but Booker. Teams start to figure them out and shut down Book! So they got KD because Bridges, Payne, and CP3 were too inconsistent. I blame the Beal Trade that wreck this team and idk why they would do it.
Why do UA-camrs seem to think the Bulls taking Beal makes sense? As a Bulls fan, I promise you no one here wants to trade Lavine for Beal, even with those worthless late first rounders thrown in. Lavine is still a very good player. Only way we trade him is for expiring contracts or legit picks. Not picks that are going to be 25-30 range AND an even worse contract AND a much worse less exciting player.
@@baldeagle4710 if KD a bus rider, then tf does that make Steph? In his 4 championships he got ONE SINGLE FMVP. Don't wanna hear he got robbed as you seem to only give context when it suits you.
Two random first round picks do not account for the difference in value between Bradley Beal and Zach Lavine's contracts AT ALL. It would have to be a three team or more trade and to destroy the Bulls' financial flexibility indefinitely by sticking them with a far more untradable contract, it would take more than two firsts when the Bulls could just as easily go for expiring deals and have financial flexibility and possibly get assets for Lavine. Rather than comparing contracts on the surface, you have to consider Lavine is valuable enough to get off of for expirings and the value of financial flexibility. As a Bulls fan I don't want us anywhere near this deal because I don't trust us to get the assets in return we would need to make taking on one of the worst contracts EVER worth it. Being a Bulls fan is purgatory as it is, the front office are losing the fans, taking on Beal without getting properly compensated would be horribly received
Summer of 2024, rockets offered Jalen green , vanfleet , and four 1st for KD. Suns owner rejected it and says his team can compete for a championship. Today rockets don’t want KD
Swapping out Zach lavine and Bradley Beal won't help them at all, you trading Iso scorer for iso scorer, they need somebody who can organize their offense, and perhaps a center to clog the lane even perimeter defenders, you got Booker and Durant , that's enough damn scoring
"Swapping out Zach lavine and Bradley Beal won't help them at all." Lavine's contract is smaller so as the Suns are above the apron they have to match but more to the point paying less is kind of a win regardless. Lavine is so much more efficient he's shooting 60% EFG while Beal is shooting 56% and thats with higher usage from Lavine. I agree Lavine doesn't help much defensively and if I had a choice I'd take Butler for that reason alone, but he's better than Beal certainly. The Suns would still get bounced in the second round (at best) if they even make the playoffs because rn they ain't even making the play-in. Also little tangible Lavine is a better rebounder and the Suns are awful on that front.
Unless the Suns turn Beal's salary into another player and that player into complementary wing players and a Center, they have no chance of being a competitive team. I imagine that's what they're trying to do.
A few teams would take his contract for an exchange actually. Don't know how smart you are, so i don't wanna waste my time explaining it to you, but there are prolly a few vids out there to help you out
Don’t see how this is getting worse for phx. After acquiring Richards the suns are very formidable. If they add Butler they might have the best starting unit in the league. Nurk now gives them another trade-able contract. Suns are in great position and will likely add significant pieces at the deadline. And the suns have been very good with KD and Booker when healthy. The situation is much better then you make it sound in this video imo
I feel like this is one of those videos that try to offer a perspective of a different side to that same coin. Either that or it’s just a video pandering to those who cream at the thought of witnessing the Suns’ downfall
"Don’t see how this is getting worse for phx. After acquiring Richards the suns are very formidable. If they add Butler they might have the best starting unit in the league." Hahaha... Hahaha.. Phoenix sun really cooks people's brains. I'm a suns fan but this is delusional. I liked the Nick Richards trade, but that team of Jones, Booker, Butler, KD, and Richards is not gonna make it because you have 2 defensive liabilities in the backcourt and no bench depth. Celtics can bring out Jrue Holiday, Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and Kristaps... the Celtics are just better. Doesn't even get to the better teams in the west. OKC has an immaculate roster of depth and good defense. New York's starting 5 is better hands down, Dallas has a good depth and defense. Yeah Suns would have like 5th best starting line up, maybe with Butler (They aren't going to get him) but they get bounced in the second round because Booker and KD are gassed.
Everything wrong with the Suns goes directly to Ishbia. He's just a kid who spend a ton of money to buy a toy and he's going to play with it regardless whether he breaks it or not. In about 2 years, he turned a Finals team who followed it with a 67 win season in to a Team fighting for a play in game. Not just that, he pretty much traded EVERY piece of future they had within that window including Bridges, Johnson, and every freaking 1st round for the next half a decade. NOT just that but he gets himself stuck with literally the worst contract in the HISTORY of the NBA. With that contract also binds his best player's playable years. So when Beal is off the books, KD pretty much will be too. This douche bag is the reason why owners need to stay away from management.
The timing of this video is weird. The suns still have a lot of issues, but they've been playing really well lately, and their recent changes have all produced significant improvement in results. They benched beal but instead of pouting he took it on the chin and now they're 9-3 since his benching. They added Nick Richard and now he's having career games and helping them blow out teams they used to struggle to beat. And now Jimmy Bulter is doing literally everything a player could to not just get moved to them, but moved for as little in return as possible. Would Jimmy solve their problems if they got him (which they still might not)? I doubt it. And they do still have problems, I don't currently consider them a top team in the league. But just a few weeks ago they weren't even a good team, but contrary to this title, their situation keeps geting better, and right now I do think they are currently a good team. Not a great team, but probably at play in team, and the sort of play off team that could upset some one if their stars got hot at the right time.
Before what? Before the KD and Beal trades or ?? Because since the KD trade we haven't gotten any closer in fact we might not even make the playoffs this year with no picks and no future.
If I was the front office of the suns I’d trade everyone for whatever picks/future assets I can get while I still can especially with the trade that went down recently turning 1 pick into 3
If you're a Suns fan, do you really WANT Butler? As a Heat fan, I thought he was the second coming of UD up until this - No offense but the new CBA really screws the older players and their contracts. I don't argue that and I see their points but THEY AGREED TO IT. If you and I have made a deal, a SIGNED CONTRACT, then we both have to stick to it. Riley's keeping us under that 2nd Apron. Meanwhile, Butler thinks he's more important than the rest of the team, our young future?!? Nah man, LBJ and DWade tried to play that game and you ain't them 😂
I think others are just irritating haters and absolutely don't want Jimmy hooking up with Booker and KD. It's only going to make them more challenging in the post season but doesn't make them the favorites. I think that the NTC looks a lot worse than it actually is. Beal might be traded several times before the end of his contract. Why have that in any contract if it is the opposite of the protection it's supposed to be.
Beal isnt gonna waive his NTC to go to Chicago. Also, NOBODY (miami or phx) has the draft compensation that would make taking his contract worth it lol.
It would be fun to see Playoff Jimmy's heroics in the western conference playoffs and I have beef with the Suns since the D-booker, Cp3 and Ayton team (they where annoying as hell) so I hope they go for it.
Jimmy Butler is still a Heat because no facilitating team (Detroit, Charlotte, Toronto) want to get locked into $30-$40 million for ~3 years for trash return, especially if they're sending out players they like and expiring contracts. Every team wants mine but the Suns won't trade 4-5 1sts for Butler to satisfy everyone, and no other team will include draft capital to shift around mediocre players. That means no team wants Beal, Middleton, etc. Long story short NO TRADE TO PHOENIX...
I think Book and KD are okay. If today that's their squad with role players, then they can try to get Butler. That'll be a good team, lighter load at least for KD.... But when they traded for Beal.... 🤣
In all fairness to ishbia. He knows he can always flip Booker, Durant and other players if he every wants to so long as they have value. He can get a good amount of picks back for his players besides beal. That said it's been a shit show. They shouldve try to sign jrue holiday when he was traded for the dame trade
Like a lot of the fans commenting on here! Ive been a suns fan for years! We've all sat by and watch Nothing happen, the crazy stuff as of late is awesome in my eyes Get brad out! Thats the only thing i can complain about! Dumb move to bring that dude in!
look again...the situation finally getting better....beal wasnt benched to make him mad..despite trading for him in the first place made no sense....it made less sense to keep him and booker on the floor at the same time for less mins and he is way more efficient for the team playing the 6th man.....suns are playi8ng below expectations but the house is not on fire and they still have a chance to make a playoff push.
The Suns are a dumpster fire waiting to happen one they have the worst contract in the NBA in Bradley Beal two they have a aging superstar in KD who’s got probably another year of the Suns just being mediocre before he probably demands a trade and three Devin Booker who’s been injured a lot and not helping the situation but the best player on the team at this point and last when all of these players are gone the Suns are going to get historically bad with no draft picks in the future so when they hit rock bottom, they’re really gonna hit rock bottom
Suns can trade for Butler without trading Beal. Heat get Grayson Allen and nurkic and Ryan dunn. Suns get Butler and Kevin Love and Josh Richardson. Suns get Butler heat get some assets problem solved
Man stop the owner is doing what he’s suppose to do trying to win at all cost …they shouldn’t of made that Beal trade that’s what mess the team up so when they get him off the team they’ll be fine …
Problem with the Suns from the beginning is that they have 3 Scorers that can’t play point at a high level. They have 3 guys that score but can’t run an offense. People need to understand that neither Durant or booker can run the offense. CP made booker look like an all nba caliber player
Book was already an all nba caliber player before CP3. Chris Paul even stated that he wanted to play for the suns because Booker was there and he wanted to play with him.
At what point do we look at Booker ? He's the spearhead of this team and has been for a very long time. He's not evolved his game to meet that of a leader or star on the floor competing with other stars. Im sure he's had some level of say-so in all of this , as most stars on teams do. We should be more critical of booker and require more from him.
His assists have consistently gone up and he’s shooting far less midrange shots than he used to, not to mention his on ball defense has improved since cp3 took some ballhandling pressure away. So you don’t know what you’re talking about
Everybody seems to avoid telling the truth about the actual main problems of the suns and that is the fit of Booker and Durant. They are both ISO scoring perimeter players, while neither of them has even average ball handling or facilitating skills and they are both bad on defense. Having 2 Players like that on the floor creates an incredibly one-dimensional offense that heavily depends on both of them being more efficient than you can realistically expect, while having a bad defense at the same time.
Didn't you suggest a couple days ago Beal is waiving his no trade clause? The team is in a pretty good shape right now and we are winning the title this year with butler. Go suns go!
Not a Suns fan in the slightest…but if they acquire Butler the Suns can be a team that could make The Finals. Booker, KD, Butler and Richards is a nice core, with really good balance. Now if they do all this for Zach Lavine…then everything you said in this video is absolutely spot on!
Suns started 9-2 and are 7-4 in 2025. Other teams in the west are struggling like the t-wolves, warriors, and kings. Things are bad but they’re not nearly as bad as you’re making them out to be. The issues they have are mostly effort-based and nurkic is a huge reason for that. If they can trade him or Beal for a somewhat competent wing/stretch big that can rebound it would make a big difference.
People are against Nurkic right now but he's still a starting center in the league regardless of what bad opinion you have of him. He plays good defense, rebounds, and isn't a terrible scoring option if you put him in dunker and cutter spots instead of post up situations. He also has the ability to hit 3pt shots although at ~32% you'd want him to be wide open to be shooting them. I do think he will end up playing somewhere else and he is just a bad fit for the suns as currently constructed. To be fair I don't think the suns front office has any idea what they are doing and it seems like Ishbia is trying to manage his team like a 2k franchise instead of a professional organization. Nurk has the best defensive rating on the team and until this year with altered playing time and lineups has been a similar offensive rating as Kevin Durant. He will end up somewhere that uses him correctly and you'll wonder if it is the same player the suns had
@RD-zx6py Your probably correct. Suns need to get rid of him because in the off season he's gonna say he isn't happy and will denand a trade. Mark my words.
@@TheRealTruth533 agreed. Prob is that this team is already doomed for the foreseeable. This is the most moribund I've seen a franchise since the Nets went all in on the over the hill ex Celtics.
@RD-zx6py Getting Kevin Durant has been a curse his past two stops ( Nets/ Suns). His bad attitude, lack of leadership and mood swings are negative impacts on teams. Plus he is always complaining and never wants to work through problems. GET RID OF HIM.
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That fluke 2021 finals Run skewed people’s view of that suns team. Every team we faced was hurt. The booker era suns has NEVER beaten a healthy playoff team. Cp3 was getting older too. This current era has made people romanticize that cp3 era. That team was never gonna win a title
Matt Ishbia absolutely ran this team into the ground. He walked into a fucking championship contender Phoenix Suns team and started managing the team with the same logic that a 12 year old playing NBA2K for the first time would be operating with. And the only reason more fans aren’t calling for him to sell the team is because he’s blinding fans with $2 hot dogs and popcorn. Easily the worst team owner in the NBA. He makes James Dolan look like a genius.
The suns were never a true contender. That 2021 finals run skewed people’s view of that team. Every team the suns faced was hurt. The booker era suns has NEVER beaten a healthy playoff team. That doesn’t sound like a contender to me
$2 glizzies
Haha. $2 hotdogs are like manna from heaven when you've been through the pickles on nachos era.
As a Blazer fan, I’d rather have Matt Ishbia than Jody Allen, an owner that only inherited the team from her brother’s death and doesn’t care about the team at all. In fact, the only reason she hasn’t sold is so she can collect a check that she gets for being an owner.
Gosh Tell us how you really feel 😂
As a Suns fan I 100% acknowledge the current chaotic nature of this team and cloudy future, but please understand Nurkic is the least self-aware player I’ve ever watched. He legitimately thinks he’s an all NBA talent when the reality is he is the worst rotation player in the league. He took the Draymond stuff last year way too far and kept tweeting about it months after it happened. Have to take his comments with a massive grain of salt
I really have no idea where he got that ego. bro thinks he's sabonis or some shit
I can't speak to the talent part of your comment, but the Draymond part is perfcetly acceptable. I don't know about you but if some dude punched me for no reason, I would tweet about it for months.
"I am certain that if the suns are trading their 2031 pick for those 3 to utah they HAVE a deal set up"
2 days later: "Suns made trade for picks with no Butler trade lined up"
😂
It's almost like billionaires aren't infallible geniuses and often make utterly moronic decisions when left to run franchises.
"I have personal info confirming it" 😂
Getting Boston-Brooklyn 2015 vibes. Suns are going the same path as Nets - betting on over the river players with all the assets they have
Durant + booker and a great supporting cast would be perfect. But nope lets make a top heavy roster
So Jimmy wants to go from one disfunction to another even worse disfunction 😂😂
March 1st headline: Jimmy Butler quits on the Phoenix suns
Pat Riley is smarter than that to know that the suns offer is basically a pile of shit
He might as well go to the retirement home that is Philly.
As long as hes found a weak ownership that is willing to overpay him he'll love it😅
This may seem insane, but maybe the Suns should trade Booker and Durant for assets. This team won't ever be contenders since all they have are their big three.
They won’t do it tho. Owner going all in
They better before houston loses interest
I feel that the NTC should be voided once a player agrees to get traded
No
huh...you have a point...he waived the clause so it really should have become null and void with the new team...
@ No, it shouldn't have. Waiving a no trade clause doesn't completely cancel it in perpetuity.
The nature of the clause means the player can waive it whenever he wants. That's the risk of providing the incentive to land a big name. You give them all the power.
Players union wouldn't want that precedent of conditions within a contract being altered by a trade, also its legally dubious to say the least. Suns took on Beals contract in the trade, all of it, all 57 million a year, bonuses, and yes the No Trade Clause, they took on the risk, they shouldn't be allowed to bitch and whine (I'm a suns fan btw and hated that trade from day one) now that it didn't play out.
Theyre never calling it quits. Like i said they took their first mortgage out getting Kevin Durant. They get their second mortgage getting a player no one wanted in Bradley beal. And they're flirting with getting a home equity line of credit to get someone else.
They should’ve never traded Chris Paul. Bro brought them to the finals and traded him for BEAL??? Stupid front office decisions.
CP3 is 40 though
But but... 31 ppg! 31 ppg over an entire season, think of the scoring!! Think of the Big Three!! Forget that he's a negative on defense.
@@baldeagle471040 Chris Paul on a vet minimum > Beal on a supermax with a no trade clause and
CP3 was horrible the last season with the Suns.
It wasn't just CP. The Suns gutted their youth and depth. If they would have kept that core and added small pieces, they'd be better off now.
Yea the new suns owner came in like this is 2k now he’s tryna salvage the future assets he gave up just to be in the 10th seed lol
What you mean? That team with Paul didn’t have any scorers but Booker. Teams start to figure them out and shut down Book! So they got KD because Bridges, Payne, and CP3 were too inconsistent. I blame the Beal Trade that wreck this team and idk why they would do it.
I hope Butler ends up in Charlotte. Truly.
Why do UA-camrs seem to think the Bulls taking Beal makes sense? As a Bulls fan, I promise you no one here wants to trade Lavine for Beal, even with those worthless late first rounders thrown in. Lavine is still a very good player. Only way we trade him is for expiring contracts or legit picks. Not picks that are going to be 25-30 range AND an even worse contract AND a much worse less exciting player.
Durant has won two playoff rounds since leaving Golden State(six years ago). Impressive.
KD is a bus rider
Its kinda impressive considering he tore his Achilles last game as a warrior.
@@baldeagle4710 if KD a bus rider, then tf does that make Steph? In his 4 championships he got ONE SINGLE FMVP. Don't wanna hear he got robbed as you seem to only give context when it suits you.
@ kd left the Thunder to join a 73-9 team. You must have amnesia. who did Steph leave to win rings? Look up his stats from the 2015 finals
@baldeagle4710 he did recruit KD to be on his team, though. Which is basically the same thing
Two random first round picks do not account for the difference in value between Bradley Beal and Zach Lavine's contracts AT ALL. It would have to be a three team or more trade and to destroy the Bulls' financial flexibility indefinitely by sticking them with a far more untradable contract, it would take more than two firsts when the Bulls could just as easily go for expiring deals and have financial flexibility and possibly get assets for Lavine. Rather than comparing contracts on the surface, you have to consider Lavine is valuable enough to get off of for expirings and the value of financial flexibility. As a Bulls fan I don't want us anywhere near this deal because I don't trust us to get the assets in return we would need to make taking on one of the worst contracts EVER worth it. Being a Bulls fan is purgatory as it is, the front office are losing the fans, taking on Beal without getting properly compensated would be horribly received
Jimmy ain't finding any joy in phoenix loool
Summer of 2024, rockets offered Jalen green , vanfleet , and four 1st for KD. Suns owner rejected it and says his team can compete for a championship. Today rockets don’t want KD
Should have kept CP39....
I don't see how Jimmy Butler or Bradley Beal get traded for each other at all.
Phoenix Suns another 1st round exit 🤔🧐🤨
2:25 yknow wat else is massive?
Swapping out Zach lavine and Bradley Beal won't help them at all, you trading Iso scorer for iso scorer, they need somebody who can organize their offense, and perhaps a center to clog the lane even perimeter defenders, you got Booker and Durant , that's enough damn scoring
Beal for Zion. High risk high reward
"Swapping out Zach lavine and Bradley Beal won't help them at all." Lavine's contract is smaller so as the Suns are above the apron they have to match but more to the point paying less is kind of a win regardless. Lavine is so much more efficient he's shooting 60% EFG while Beal is shooting 56% and thats with higher usage from Lavine. I agree Lavine doesn't help much defensively and if I had a choice I'd take Butler for that reason alone, but he's better than Beal certainly. The Suns would still get bounced in the second round (at best) if they even make the playoffs because rn they ain't even making the play-in. Also little tangible Lavine is a better rebounder and the Suns are awful on that front.
Unless the Suns turn Beal's salary into another player and that player into complementary wing players and a Center, they have no chance of being a competitive team. I imagine that's what they're trying to do.
I find Butler to be an aging headache ... he quit on his team!
Door Mat Ish and the Setting Suns are getting dog walked this season.
No team is taking Beal
Idk if I were the nets GM I'd take Beal and those 3 picks for Ben Simmons
A few teams would take his contract for an exchange actually. Don't know how smart you are, so i don't wanna waste my time explaining it to you, but there are prolly a few vids out there to help you out
@@kjjr3270 we can just wait till the deadline and test your theory, let's see if any team volunteers to take him
@@DonSMDT Ben Simmons is an expiring contract, Bradley Beal will be on contract for ~$55m a year the next 2 seasons.
Don’t see how this is getting worse for phx. After acquiring Richards the suns are very formidable. If they add Butler they might have the best starting unit in the league. Nurk now gives them another trade-able contract. Suns are in great position and will likely add significant pieces at the deadline. And the suns have been very good with KD and Booker when healthy. The situation is much better then you make it sound in this video imo
I feel like this is one of those videos that try to offer a perspective of a different side to that same coin. Either that or it’s just a video pandering to those who cream at the thought of witnessing the Suns’ downfall
"Don’t see how this is getting worse for phx. After acquiring Richards the suns are very formidable. If they add Butler they might have the best starting unit in the league."
Hahaha...
Hahaha.. Phoenix sun really cooks people's brains. I'm a suns fan but this is delusional. I liked the Nick Richards trade, but that team of Jones, Booker, Butler, KD, and Richards is not gonna make it because you have 2 defensive liabilities in the backcourt and no bench depth. Celtics can bring out Jrue Holiday, Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and Kristaps... the Celtics are just better. Doesn't even get to the better teams in the west. OKC has an immaculate roster of depth and good defense. New York's starting 5 is better hands down, Dallas has a good depth and defense. Yeah Suns would have like 5th best starting line up, maybe with Butler (They aren't going to get him) but they get bounced in the second round because Booker and KD are gassed.
Butler's playstyle doesn't even mesh well with what KD and D Book do. At least Beal is a better 3 pt shooter than Jimmy.
At this point, it seems the Heat would take a ham sandwich to get rid of Butler.
No they won’t that’s why they have accepted an offer yet
I don't agree, but if they don't figure it out they will end up with nothing.
Pissing off a max-contract player with a no trade clause is such a dumb move for an org it's almost impressive.
As a suns fan I’ve been wanting to blow this up and trade KD and Booker but it won’t happen sadly
How is this not considered tampering by the teams?
If im Beal imma never gonna waive the no trade clause just to troll the suns.
The bots are nicer people than all of you
Real
Sad but true
Skynet will spare this person
@@pyotrbagration2438 🤣
Everything wrong with the Suns goes directly to Ishbia. He's just a kid who spend a ton of money to buy a toy and he's going to play with it regardless whether he breaks it or not. In about 2 years, he turned a Finals team who followed it with a 67 win season in to a Team fighting for a play in game. Not just that, he pretty much traded EVERY piece of future they had within that window including Bridges, Johnson, and every freaking 1st round for the next half a decade. NOT just that but he gets himself stuck with literally the worst contract in the HISTORY of the NBA. With that contract also binds his best player's playable years. So when Beal is off the books, KD pretty much will be too. This douche bag is the reason why owners need to stay away from management.
The timing of this video is weird. The suns still have a lot of issues, but they've been playing really well lately, and their recent changes have all produced significant improvement in results. They benched beal but instead of pouting he took it on the chin and now they're 9-3 since his benching. They added Nick Richard and now he's having career games and helping them blow out teams they used to struggle to beat. And now Jimmy Bulter is doing literally everything a player could to not just get moved to them, but moved for as little in return as possible.
Would Jimmy solve their problems if they got him (which they still might not)? I doubt it. And they do still have problems, I don't currently consider them a top team in the league. But just a few weeks ago they weren't even a good team, but contrary to this title, their situation keeps geting better, and right now I do think they are currently a good team. Not a great team, but probably at play in team, and the sort of play off team that could upset some one if their stars got hot at the right time.
Those Wizards pick swaps from the Beal trade looking better now.
You people are milking this bruh they are actually doing way better then before
They have the highest salary in the NBA, it's championship or bust. And they aren't close to championship contention
Before what? Before the KD and Beal trades or ?? Because since the KD trade we haven't gotten any closer in fact we might not even make the playoffs this year with no picks and no future.
If I was the front office of the suns I’d trade everyone for whatever picks/future assets I can get while I still can especially with the trade that went down recently turning 1 pick into 3
they have no leader on court and their front office is horrendous. they're screwed and have nobody to blame but themselves
With a front office and coach like Bud, Jimmy will burn that place down before the end of the season. Good luck with that!
it would be so funny if they finally got a deal worked out and then Beal was like "nah actually i dont wanna go tehre anymore"
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I’m starting to think the anti bot comments are actually bots
Sounds like something a bot would say 👀🤔
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If Rafael Stone bets against you then your franchises downfall is imminent
Beal says No.
Star dominant teams always get coaches fired, egomaniacs
If you're a Suns fan, do you really WANT Butler? As a Heat fan, I thought he was the second coming of UD up until this - No offense but the new CBA really screws the older players and their contracts. I don't argue that and I see their points but THEY AGREED TO IT. If you and I have made a deal, a SIGNED CONTRACT, then we both have to stick to it. Riley's keeping us under that 2nd Apron. Meanwhile, Butler thinks he's more important than the rest of the team, our young future?!?
Nah man, LBJ and DWade tried to play that game and you ain't them 😂
Time to make a big 4
I thought this was going to be a jimmy butler video for sure and it kind of was
I haven't smiled since the KD trade
I think others are just irritating haters and absolutely don't want Jimmy hooking up with Booker and KD.
It's only going to make them more challenging in the post season but doesn't make them the favorites.
I think that the NTC looks a lot worse than it actually is. Beal might be traded several times before the end of his contract. Why have that in any contract if it is the opposite of the protection it's supposed to be.
Lord 😒😒😒😥😤the basketball GODS HATE THIS TEAM
Beal isnt gonna waive his NTC to go to Chicago. Also, NOBODY (miami or phx) has the draft compensation that would make taking his contract worth it lol.
It would be fun to see Playoff Jimmy's heroics in the western conference playoffs and I have beef with the Suns since the D-booker, Cp3 and Ayton team (they where annoying as hell) so I hope they go for it.
they benched them because the starting lineup was ass....it didnt work
Jimmy Butler is still a Heat because no facilitating team (Detroit, Charlotte, Toronto) want to get locked into $30-$40 million for ~3 years for trash return, especially if they're sending out players they like and expiring contracts. Every team wants mine but the Suns won't trade 4-5 1sts for Butler to satisfy everyone, and no other team will include draft capital to shift around mediocre players. That means no team wants Beal, Middleton, etc. Long story short NO TRADE TO PHOENIX...
Jimmy askin for superstars then wants 60 mil, askin for a trade but he throws amd wants to start?
Devin booker should request a trade
The money they give Beal could have gotten them 2 great role players
I think Book and KD are okay. If today that's their squad with role players, then they can try to get Butler. That'll be a good team, lighter load at least for KD....
But when they traded for Beal.... 🤣
Really? Beal to Bulls make sense? Only if Bulls get 4-5 picks.
In all fairness to ishbia. He knows he can always flip Booker, Durant and other players if he every wants to so long as they have value. He can get a good amount of picks back for his players besides beal. That said it's been a shit show. They shouldve try to sign jrue holiday when he was traded for the dame trade
Like a lot of the fans commenting on here!
Ive been a suns fan for years!
We've all sat by and watch Nothing happen, the crazy stuff as of late is awesome in my eyes
Get brad out! Thats the only thing i can complain about! Dumb move to bring that dude in!
Nurk probably gonna get brought out .
look again...the situation finally getting better....beal wasnt benched to make him mad..despite trading for him in the first place made no sense....it made less sense to keep him and booker on the floor at the same time for less mins and he is way more efficient for the team playing the 6th man.....suns are playi8ng below expectations but the house is not on fire and they still have a chance to make a playoff push.
lol playoff push? one and done 😂
The Suns are a dumpster fire waiting to happen one they have the worst contract in the NBA in Bradley Beal two they have a aging superstar in KD who’s got probably another year of the Suns just being mediocre before he probably demands a trade and three Devin Booker who’s been injured a lot and not helping the situation but the best player on the team at this point and last when all of these players are gone
the Suns are going to get historically bad with no draft picks in the future so when they hit rock bottom, they’re really gonna hit rock bottom
it would seem the Heat have just suspended Jimmy Butler INDEFINITELY...
Trade KD and Booker for picks and young guys now. Trade Beal once he demands out after that. Reset now or regret it for 12 years.
if i was book i'd request a trade and get the hell out of there f durant. he had a good run with the suns when paul was there.
Suns should have ran it back with cp3 and ayton on the roster instead of going for Beal and jusef
Suns can trade for Butler without trading Beal. Heat get Grayson Allen and nurkic and Ryan dunn. Suns get Butler and Kevin Love and Josh Richardson. Suns get Butler heat get some assets problem solved
......all the while they have won 8 out of their last 10 and just beat the full strength clippers lastnight.
Stop chasing stars. That model is broken. Look at the top teams in the West: OKC, HOU, MEM ... drafting well and solid free agent vets.
Bulls are so poorly ran that they would pick up beal for zach zach is better than beal i hope it doesnt get done
Man stop the owner is doing what he’s suppose to do trying to win at all cost …they shouldn’t of made that Beal trade that’s what mess the team up so when they get him off the team they’ll be fine …
Jimmy Butler Is Calling
Were a factory of sadness
Yo ya head big as hell! Great vid though brother!!
They have won 7 of their last 10 at least. That's better than either Cleveland or Boston.
Theyre still booty and not winning shit
Just "banish" Jimmy to the North, remember what happened last time that happened to a star.
35 year old jimmy butler is not prime kawhi leonard you nincompoop
Problem with the Suns from the beginning is that they have 3 Scorers that can’t play point at a high level. They have 3 guys that score but can’t run an offense. People need to understand that neither Durant or booker can run the offense. CP made booker look like an all nba caliber player
Yeah, a big 3, needs at least 1 of either a PG, or bonafide big man. Not 3 wings
Book was already an all nba caliber player before CP3. Chris Paul even stated that he wanted to play for the suns because Booker was there and he wanted to play with him.
@@dbzhafan yeah but let’s be real booker looks a lot worse without cp
Grab your popcorn folks 🍿 The dominoes are gonna start falling 👀⏳
At what point do we look at Booker ? He's the spearhead of this team and has been for a very long time. He's not evolved his game to meet that of a leader or star on the floor competing with other stars. Im sure he's had some level of say-so in all of this , as most stars on teams do. We should be more critical of booker and require more from him.
His assists have consistently gone up and he’s shooting far less midrange shots than he used to, not to mention his on ball defense has improved since cp3 took some ballhandling pressure away. So you don’t know what you’re talking about
Beal is trash. No one wants him 😂😂😂😂
Everybody seems to avoid telling the truth about the actual main problems of the suns and that is the fit of Booker and Durant. They are both ISO scoring perimeter players, while neither of them has even average ball handling or facilitating skills and they are both bad on defense. Having 2 Players like that on the floor creates an incredibly one-dimensional offense that heavily depends on both of them being more efficient than you can realistically expect, while having a bad defense at the same time.
Deandre ayton all over again
MASSIVE??
Trade Durant, beal will want to leave
Didn't you suggest a couple days ago Beal is waiving his no trade clause? The team is in a pretty good shape right now and we are winning the title this year with butler. Go suns go!
Not a Suns fan in the slightest…but if they acquire Butler the Suns can be a team that could make The Finals.
Booker, KD, Butler and Richards is a nice core, with really good balance.
Now if they do all this for Zach Lavine…then everything you said in this video is absolutely spot on!
Land of the setting sun?
Suns started 9-2 and are 7-4 in 2025. Other teams in the west are struggling like the t-wolves, warriors, and kings. Things are bad but they’re not nearly as bad as you’re making them out to be. The issues they have are mostly effort-based and nurkic is a huge reason for that. If they can trade him or Beal for a somewhat competent wing/stretch big that can rebound it would make a big difference.
They're fine stop making false narratives!
People are against Nurkic right now but he's still a starting center in the league regardless of what bad opinion you have of him. He plays good defense, rebounds, and isn't a terrible scoring option if you put him in dunker and cutter spots instead of post up situations. He also has the ability to hit 3pt shots although at ~32% you'd want him to be wide open to be shooting them. I do think he will end up playing somewhere else and he is just a bad fit for the suns as currently constructed. To be fair I don't think the suns front office has any idea what they are doing and it seems like Ishbia is trying to manage his team like a 2k franchise instead of a professional organization.
Nurk has the best defensive rating on the team and until this year with altered playing time and lineups has been a similar offensive rating as Kevin Durant. He will end up somewhere that uses him correctly and you'll wonder if it is the same player the suns had
Are you bread
TRADE KEVIN DURANT.
No top contender is paying that aging bus rider.
@RD-zx6py Your probably correct. Suns need to get rid of him because in the off season he's gonna say he isn't happy and will denand a trade. Mark my words.
@@TheRealTruth533 agreed. Prob is that this team is already doomed for the foreseeable. This is the most moribund I've seen a franchise since the Nets went all in on the over the hill ex Celtics.
@RD-zx6py Getting Kevin Durant has been a curse his past two stops ( Nets/ Suns). His bad attitude, lack of leadership and mood swings are negative impacts on teams. Plus he is always complaining and never wants to work through problems. GET RID OF HIM.
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That fluke 2021 finals
Run skewed people’s view of that suns team. Every team we faced was hurt. The booker era suns has NEVER beaten a healthy playoff team. Cp3 was getting older too. This current era has made people romanticize that cp3 era. That team was never gonna win a title
The finals series was the closest and most competitive series of the last 5 finals
@@rockdoctor767 we got smoked 4 games in a row. That doesn’t sound competitive at all.
they need 2 trade KD 2 were he can win
Everything looks bad till Jimmy gets traded to Phoenix then it’s scary for the league
Haha ok bro