Role Model | Oh, Gemini, Kansas Anymore, Love, Heartbreak

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • Role Model came by to talk about his upcoming album "Kansas Anymore", new songs, "Oh, Gemini & "Deeply Still In Love", his breakup and more!
    Role Model, born Tucker Pillsbury, is an American singer-songwriter celebrated for his blend of indie pop, alternative R&B, and hip-hop. Hailing from Portland, Maine, he made waves with his debut EP "Arizona in the Summer" in 2017, followed by the breakout single "minimal" in 2018. Role Model’s debut album “Rx” was released in 2022 to critical acclaim. In the time since, Role Model has gone through a very public relationship and breakup. His follow-up project, “Kansas Anymore” is slated for release in late 2024 and details the intricacies of a deteriorating relationship. Today on the couch, Role Model discussed kicking off this new era with the single “Oh, Gemini,” the process of writing “Kansas Anymore,” and life as an LA-based singer/songwriter.
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  • @lydiaelizabeth9470
    @lydiaelizabeth9470 Місяць тому +408

    I feel like I’m watching someone’s therapy session 🫣

  • @elisazouza
    @elisazouza Місяць тому +277

    mans still hurt and in love i just wanna give him a hug

  • @sarahanderson9751
    @sarahanderson9751 Місяць тому +308

    It was criminal to drop this without the album

  • @Anastasia-ul7qo
    @Anastasia-ul7qo Місяць тому +90

    I love how his eyes had always a little shine😭😭

  • @user-fx2qz5hq7l
    @user-fx2qz5hq7l Місяць тому +129

    I genuinely have never seen an interview where the person cannot form what they’re feeling in a sentence… and it also blows my mind that he is very expressive in any of his albums but when it comes to actually speaking in person, he cannot get it out

    • @BrandonShere
      @BrandonShere Місяць тому +27

      that's kind of the point of making music sis. most artists are troubled when expressing their feelings unless it's through the medium of their art. That's what drove them to make art in the first place. the feelings you're used to hearing artists express in their interviews are rehearsed and written down before they do the interview usually. they have PR teams dedicated to helping them do that. that's why people love Zach Sang, he really is good at getting the honest person to shine through past all the PR training.
      (btw nothing wrong with PR training, when you're putting yourself Infront of millions of people no matter who you are you will look bad unless you train. they're human)

    • @emily847
      @emily847 Місяць тому +6

      ADHD

    • @reese431
      @reese431 Місяць тому +5

      such a weird comment

    • @user-fx2qz5hq7l
      @user-fx2qz5hq7l Місяць тому

      @@reese431 sure

    • @thomasgeist3644
      @thomasgeist3644 Місяць тому +2

      I agree! he seem to have trouble getting out how he feels.
      Ok so no one asked but im gonna psychoanalyze this guy
      - He seem to have deeply rooted avoidant issues and he also seems somewhat anxious, which are both things that can be regulated with therapy
      - He clearly mentions multiple times in this podcast a lack of impulse control, and he seem to be internalizing (i.e. being introspective and blaming himself) for alot of that stuff.
      - Altho, it is better to internalize then to be reactionary and blame others. People who are reactionary usually have less chances to actually look at themselves and go to therapy.
      - I think the next step for gaining the emotional maturity he seeks is to reach the point where he realize he needs to go to therapy.
      - Going to therapy will help him articulate his feelings, and it might give him some insight and closure about his relationship, which might even help his song writting, since his public image will align with his songs in a positive way!
      Just observing here, also only listened to half of that podcast so idk

  • @csowilo5391
    @csowilo5391 Місяць тому +140

    Zach is so good. He makes peeps comfy so they can open up. He's low key a therapist it's amazing. I relate to Tucker.. poor dude but great music so I guess it's working

  • @Tathix
    @Tathix Місяць тому +80

    “Do you shut down?”
    “….huh?”
    😂

  • @caitbarton4616
    @caitbarton4616 Місяць тому +30

    Tucker is an angel. I love that Mac Miller discovered him (Tucker also went to college in Pitt, I live here now) - it gave me confidence in his music before I even heard it. But I love him as a person even more. He’s a sweetie

  • @efiblv
    @efiblv Місяць тому +66

    the way he has grown to become my favourite person ever

  • @elisazouza
    @elisazouza Місяць тому +48

    yeah he still in LOVE

  • @raynahailey
    @raynahailey Місяць тому +38

    you can tell he really is a good person

  • @sophiadematteo3624
    @sophiadematteo3624 Місяць тому +109

    i love this man more than anything

  • @Weird_fest
    @Weird_fest Місяць тому +80

    This was mostly a therapy session and i love it.

  • @eliapariseeee
    @eliapariseeee Місяць тому +79

    protect Tucker at ALL COST

  • @nataliavilla8295
    @nataliavilla8295 Місяць тому +28

    Hearing that Ross worked on the album with him makes me so happy knowing he loves the 1975

  • @gisellecianna
    @gisellecianna Місяць тому +48

    anyone else’s heart breaking while listening?🥹

  • @zoedfs
    @zoedfs Місяць тому +41

    i feel like i just went to a therapy session myself, role made me do some self introspection fr

  • @SophiaLam-xx1qd
    @SophiaLam-xx1qd Місяць тому +15

    "its good to know i can love" 😭😭I love tuck so so much !
    later in the interview:
    "the two sides.....rainbowww *swoosh*"
    🌈

  • @laurajaramillo3816
    @laurajaramillo3816 Місяць тому +18

    This felt deeply intimate

  • @carolina5609
    @carolina5609 Місяць тому +25

    his eyesss i wanna give him a big hug

  • @sarahs2909
    @sarahs2909 Місяць тому +32

    The end "cut his mic bro" had me laughing too hard

  • @tuckscowboyhat
    @tuckscowboyhat Місяць тому +14

    so so great to have my faves back in a room together!!! 🖤

  • @vicosanjines
    @vicosanjines Місяць тому +15

    so proud of him!!!

  • @devinlalonde6719
    @devinlalonde6719 Місяць тому +5

    this is what we all needed😭 love you tucker🫶🏻

  • @jemappellebrenda
    @jemappellebrenda Місяць тому +10

    so excited to hear this album 😭😭😭

  • @Mmmkassandra
    @Mmmkassandra Місяць тому +15

    I have listened to him since 2019, saw his show in 2022 and that's the best accidental discovery of an artist ❤

  • @nars2467
    @nars2467 Місяць тому +1

    This entire interview >>> loved getting to see Tucker being given the space to be so authentic and speak freely from his heart (also CANT WAIT for this album, the first 2 songs he’s dropped have been on repeat 🥹) Never seen a Zach sang interview before but loved it 🥲

  • @carrielewis6520
    @carrielewis6520 Місяць тому +10

    just wanna give him a hug :(

  • @ashleylittle626
    @ashleylittle626 Місяць тому +1

    I met Tucker after one of his shows from his last tour and that man is so damn kind. I literally accidentally hit him in the face with a shirt I gave him and he was so funny and kind about it. Honestly such an angel. I only wish success for him and I know this album is going to be his best one yet.

  • @jacobleyva1539
    @jacobleyva1539 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for this interview

  • @katimurphy2664
    @katimurphy2664 Місяць тому +7

    period brother🤞🏼i'm crying

  • @Anastasia-ul7qo
    @Anastasia-ul7qo Місяць тому +5

    I love tucker more than anything in the world, please come to chile !

  • @sineadlyons6071
    @sineadlyons6071 Місяць тому +5

    my fav person ever

  • @CKnorr_COYS
    @CKnorr_COYS Місяць тому +1

    ROLE MODEL is my ICON. Great interview Sang and Co.

  • @LindsayDavis-jx6zd
    @LindsayDavis-jx6zd Місяць тому +4

    Love this guy tbh

  • @storeboughtguacc8884
    @storeboughtguacc8884 Місяць тому +7

    this was a therapy session

  • @kellyb6634
    @kellyb6634 Місяць тому +2

    Yayyyy thanks T-dawg!!

  • @oliviamoxley6025
    @oliviamoxley6025 Місяць тому +1

    I too am a Point Park dropout! Kind of a weird school but I so agree that it exposed me to an art scene I didn't have in a small rural town and it really inspired my future creativity!

  • @nadatri
    @nadatri Місяць тому +1

    First episode I watched and you’ve got a new subscriber! Really good interview 👏🏾

  • @unknown-di2du
    @unknown-di2du Місяць тому +34

    emma and tucker both interview the same, they make alot of big pauses

  • @lavenderbby
    @lavenderbby Місяць тому +23

    okay so he’s avoidant 😊

  • @mxrvpb
    @mxrvpb Місяць тому +3

    ily tucker !!!

  • @ShannonOteri
    @ShannonOteri 25 днів тому

    so excited for the album!

  • @noramaevereilly2986
    @noramaevereilly2986 Місяць тому +3

    ily tucker keep ur head up❤

  • @Jk-jr5ww
    @Jk-jr5ww 20 днів тому +2

    I really hope after the album drops they interview him again

  • @charmainekhin4784
    @charmainekhin4784 Місяць тому +9

    love you Tucker since Blind 🫶🏽🫶🏽🤭🤠 my FAVORITE taurus king

  • @sonicsound84
    @sonicsound84 Місяць тому

    Yep, like this studio setup so much more.

  • @SophiaLam-xx1qd
    @SophiaLam-xx1qd Місяць тому +8

    we love hearing the tracklist without knowing about it live laugh love

  • @dianciptalestari
    @dianciptalestari Місяць тому +3

    My favorite people ❤❤❤

  • @Dutchfullbuster
    @Dutchfullbuster Місяць тому +5

    Tucker 💘💘💘

  • @user-hv1vs4vg3v
    @user-hv1vs4vg3v Місяць тому +17

    not the accidental Ross Lynch mention…😂

  • @Elmerphant
    @Elmerphant Місяць тому

    I completely relate to all of this. Specifically, breaking up over home sickness. Left my fiance because I missed the east coast so much (and family/home). I felt so lost and depressed. It was a mess.
    Also 9:10 I can relate to as well. Quiet is so lovely and space. You can be totally in love but still want peace, quiet, space. Recently watched the 3rd season of Bridgerton: Francesca Briderton is a great example of this.
    Tucker your music is so freaking good. I blast the stripped down "notice me" and "that's just how it goes" so much.

  • @amandakuhl2001
    @amandakuhl2001 Місяць тому +22

    I’m sat

  • @anziocc
    @anziocc Місяць тому +20

    he's so Jesse Rutherford coded

    • @aj-nd3zz
      @aj-nd3zz Місяць тому

      i though i was the only one that thought this!!!

  • @sara.eats_world
    @sara.eats_world Місяць тому +16

    Is Emma okay

  • @reese.w.1738
    @reese.w.1738 Місяць тому +2

    tucker. i will ride for you, ALWAYS

  • @jacobciverson
    @jacobciverson Місяць тому +16

    “I’ve never been to therapy” my guy keeping it a buck

  • @kendalshepherd2066
    @kendalshepherd2066 Місяць тому

    i was at his pittsburgh show for the RX tour!!! ahhhh that’s crazy

  • @jacquip
    @jacquip Місяць тому +5

    my favorite person

  • @kenneth.johnson04
    @kenneth.johnson04 Місяць тому +3

    Im in love with him

  • @user-qy3lz1xv8w
    @user-qy3lz1xv8w Місяць тому +1

    Role model ❤ beautiful voice

  • @jacobciverson
    @jacobciverson Місяць тому +3

    Savage mode for dropping on his b day

  • @Ashyo711
    @Ashyo711 Місяць тому

    I’ll be your #1 fan!!!!

  • @paulagarcia3113
    @paulagarcia3113 Місяць тому +36

    The fact that we know who taught him to play guitar🥹🥹🥹

    • @oopskye
      @oopskye Місяць тому

      whomst

    • @alterego5617
      @alterego5617 Місяць тому

      who

    • @umhi9921
      @umhi9921 15 днів тому

      Emma’s dad :( He mentioned it in the GQ couple’s quiz

  • @alanis8472
    @alanis8472 Місяць тому +3

    Tucker!

  • @jayluverbug
    @jayluverbug Місяць тому +2

    tapped in

  • @macylevick5085
    @macylevick5085 Місяць тому +2

    YAY

  • @soobinations
    @soobinations Місяць тому +1

    Ngl love it

  • @mariahkhorasani
    @mariahkhorasani Місяць тому +3

    tucker

  • @jacobjenkins5947
    @jacobjenkins5947 Місяць тому +7

    he’s so baby girl

  • @dianciptalestari
    @dianciptalestari Місяць тому +3

    Tuck❤

  • @nikaymariano
    @nikaymariano Місяць тому +4

    TUCKER OUR BADDEST B

  • @VIOLACEAE1
    @VIOLACEAE1 Місяць тому +1

    This guy is cutee. i really cant wait for this albummm. from the 2 songs ive hearddd i think it's gonna be gooood. also zachh, as always you are the number 1 podcaster in my eyesss. :)

  • @catkeech
    @catkeech Місяць тому +7

    Ahhh he's absolutely gutted 😞

  • @444she
    @444she Місяць тому +8

    the way i cant wait to hear track 5, july 19th is too far

  • @marywhited7411
    @marywhited7411 Місяць тому

    Good job Tuck

  • @kaxidoscope
    @kaxidoscope Місяць тому +3

    Sturniolo Triplets shoutout 🎉

  • @mbv22311
    @mbv22311 Місяць тому +1

    I loved this tucker seems like a great guy ❤❤

  • @mariahezra
    @mariahezra Місяць тому +40

    The digging into his personal life and trying to be a therapist in this episode wasn't my favorite interview style.

    • @melissaahoell
      @melissaahoell Місяць тому +18

      ii think tucker also set that tone of like a therapy session, i think it was well needed for him, he prob needed it.

    • @isabellamonaco2929
      @isabellamonaco2929 Місяць тому +4

      I completely agree. This was too invasive, I had to stop listening.

    • @aylin2341
      @aylin2341 Місяць тому +9

      it’s not for everyone but i’ve listened to zach sang for years and it’s just his style of interviewing. he always holds such comforting and non-judgmental space that the artists end up being vulnerable and they both learn- it’s kind of beautiful. i feel like it never gets too deep. usually just talk of emotions in general.

    • @theinternetdudette
      @theinternetdudette Місяць тому +10

      Do you naively think that tucker and his pr team won't ask about the questions asked prior to the interview? He knew what Zack was gonna tackle!! That's why he came back!

    • @mbv22311
      @mbv22311 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah it makes me a little uncomfortable for tucker

  • @jaylety4214
    @jaylety4214 Місяць тому

    Winter really changed us huh

  • @anikalovesbryan
    @anikalovesbryan Місяць тому +3

    Role model slayed down boots noah beck

  • @gl0balenterprise
    @gl0balenterprise Місяць тому +3

    this is so great but like. .... kinda need the songs?!

  • @cecilialoumusic
    @cecilialoumusic Місяць тому

    He is so fucking cool

  • @ZoeGanis
    @ZoeGanis Місяць тому

    3:45 was such a missed opportunity for making a “that’s just how it goes” joke 😭😭😭😭

  • @gisellecianna
    @gisellecianna Місяць тому +6

    ross lynch ross mcdonald, tucker pillsbury shawn mendes. same thing, same person!

  • @theinternetdudette
    @theinternetdudette Місяць тому +2

    Him saying that he doesn't have any anger or rage is very odd considering that he is a "taurus"! 😂

  • @SoROwCycle
    @SoROwCycle Місяць тому +8

    we need an Emma reaction video

  • @alevinah05
    @alevinah05 18 днів тому

    Missing home...

  • @camilafogliani788
    @camilafogliani788 Місяць тому +7

    i can fix him !!!!!

  • @manuelavidal3255
    @manuelavidal3255 Місяць тому +7

    Damn i thought Kansas anymore was a metaphor about the fact that he’s from Maine and Emma is from San Francisco and right in the middle of those two states is Kansas. Literally. So it would mean like the middle of something and we are not there anymore…

  • @sydneyb1028
    @sydneyb1028 Місяць тому +10

    I can fix him.

    • @MarleeCM
      @MarleeCM Місяць тому +7

      No really I can

    • @oopskye
      @oopskye Місяць тому

      real asf

  • @EwwMyuh
    @EwwMyuh Місяць тому

    I’m something to regret but without you what am I?

  • @Kevsenkoko
    @Kevsenkoko Місяць тому +8

    I just noticed his face/mouth barely moves when he talks lmao

  • @user-vn2nw4rb2j
    @user-vn2nw4rb2j Місяць тому +4

    And now we know how they broke up

  • @SophiaLam-xx1qd
    @SophiaLam-xx1qd Місяць тому

    the way that tucker is literarlly us gawking over ross lynch
    zach: do you have a crush on ross lynch
    tuck: no no
    zach: if you want us to set you up
    tuck: no no i dont
    zach: whyd you say it
    tuck: ronald mcdonald you can thought…everyone has a crush on ross…ronald Mcdonald

  • @ashlinrose
    @ashlinrose Місяць тому

    He’s literally just a Taurus 💕

  • @boringgsusan
    @boringgsusan Місяць тому

    now he really be like Shawn Mendes playing the guitar and shiz

  • @affengehoerennichtindenzoo
    @affengehoerennichtindenzoo Місяць тому +3

    this was a therapy session for me

  • @martinaallegrino9068
    @martinaallegrino9068 Місяць тому

    tucker when the guy was saying Kansas 🤨

  • @user-in6qd4je6k
    @user-in6qd4je6k Місяць тому +4

    イケメン❤