Bro literally BOOSTED INTO two sets of lasers back to back, this is leagues worse than that IGN reviewer jumping over a dash panel to his death in Sonic Unleashed.
The only thing worse than his opinion is the absolute horrendous gameplay he's showing, this was a genuine skill issue, he needs to put down the controller.
7:37 My man wasted Chaos Control on just going on the ramp instead of going into the Chaos Dash path right next to the ramp... & he thinks he's got a word to say...
@@TheGamingRift11 Yeah, I agree with ya, everyone's got free speech. But some people should know when to keep things to themselves. If you aren't gonna try with the game, why bother?
The entire point of a rank system is to reward the player for playing the game well. Not getting hit, completing the game in the fastest time and even using alternate paths are fun ways to experience the games.
I don’t buy Mario games anymore, I only have them if given as gifts, so I’ll still play them a bit. Why? Eh, I just don’t have much fun, it’s a subjective thing. See how easy that is to say? Why did the guy need to spend an entire video trying to make him not having fun in a game an objective thing, if you don’t like a game that’s fine. And him complaining that he wasting his money on a game he knew he wouldn’t like is just straight up infuriating, “I don’t like pistachio ice cream, so lemme just buy some and complain that I wasted my money!” See how stupid that sounds?
Reminds me of a guy I know that bought and played every single mainline pokemon game and never once liked any of them even a little bit WHY DID YOU KEEP BUYING THEM THEN DAWG
You know what's funny about Sonic Mania is that although it's a 2d game it stills rewards you for being fast. If you do really well at the end of an act you get an extra life.
A good thing from the classic games that mania also has is that being fast isn't the only way to have fun with the game. If you learn the level design, you'll know where all the best rewards are, be it shields, rings or lifes. Eventually letting you have like 60 lifes by the end of the game
lowkey looked at that video's comment section and...man, the amount of people ive seen in that thing not understanding boost sonic's design philosophy made me have an aneurysm, dog at this point, we can have a 10/10 sonic game and these ppl would STILL say it's mid because it's sonic, i genuinely hate it here
Sonic Generations is a very good game but like every other good game or media the more it exists the less it gets appreciated and mf,s like him start to hate just to "be different".
this guy kinda reminds me of a streamer i watched recently, they were playing sonic adventure DX. he said that SADX was bad because he had to build speed so that he could make a jump. and when a chatter asked him if he genuinely hated the game and he said "yes, along with sonic adventure 2". he didn't really go into reasoning though for SA2
That’s like saying “ Mario 64 is bad because you have to perform some moves to make a certain jump “. Like does bro not understand how stupid that sounds? Like, thats the whole point of a Sonic game. That if genuinenly one of the dumbest things I’ve heard today.
Game critics/Boomers has two opinions on 3D Sonic. 1. When a Sonic game is functional, It's boring. 2. When a 3D Sonic game is glitchy, all of them are. Even though that only applies to Sonic 06 & Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric. Side Note: The first one only applies to Lost World(kinda) & Forces.
You are so right my brother, yes! Yes, spit your truths! Tell them! You are so correct! I personally think lost world is a fine game but I definitely understand why people think it isn't particularly great But I definitely agree that these are the only 3.5 bad sonic games The others are either barely debatablr or not at all
@@Reset2150676 but it's more of the kind of buggy that just adds to the game with it's jank Just like something like half life 2 The physics engine can be janky but it literally just adds to the game cuz it's funny in my opinion lmao
If any other platformer released something like Sonic 06, that would be the death of the series. But for some reason, Sonic will not stay dead and I love that.
@@TheGamingRift11, nah, we dont do that, what we do is heavily criticize their foolish opinions. When they start to act up about it? That's when they get the harassment.
He says he like exploring but he HATES FRONTEIRS?! It’s literally an exploring game unlocking prices to see the whole map?!? Actually might be just so stupid to say
I've heard this thing somewhere about the experimentalist ( or something similar) and simulationist. One wants to expierience games as that an experience, emersing themselves in the world ,while the other want to experience the game as a game , where the only thing that matters is the end goal, being as efficient as possible in a metric that can be measured, like score or time. the boomer is basically an experimentalist that feels he can't emerse themselves into the sonic franchise , witch is fair since recent games appeal to the simulationist, with the ranking and it being more time based, but you don't gotta be a hater about it. Personaly I emerse myself by being in the action (becoming the character and thinking of what they would do, in this case, shadow hurrying since he has to stop black doom),rather than the place, unlike the boomer.
Bro is trying his hardest to be accepted by IGN,also hating on Sonic frontiers is insane, I don't have this game but from what I've seen it's actually one of the best Sonic games we had in years.
It's disgusting how stupid these sh*tposters of games are. I'm glad you call them out on it. I'm thinking about making my own videos sticking up for games with actual popular negative reception.
@@KingOfQuinns You Got Me To Say My Part, I'll Let You Slide Off My List. I Do Agree That Shadow Is Stronger Cause In The Story It Does Seem Like He Has An Emerald The Whole Time.
He should just play Mario games if he just wants fun. Sonic is more about maintaining your momentum and using that obtained momentum to clear stages faster. While Sonic isn't just about speed per se, it is a major factor of gameplay given that momentum is usually the key mechanic for the series. Unrelated but Sonic Advance 3, while not liked by many and being a handheld game, handled other playable characters pretty well in my opinion. Each character had their own unique traits within their movesets that changed how you play the game. And while I would like to say that Sonic Rush also handled Blaze pretty well as another playable character, I am aware that there were only 3 or 4 things that made her different from Sonic. With his point of liking playing as Sonic's friends I think that Sonic is the closest to the kind of game that he wants. Sounds like he want's something faster than Mario but slower than Sonic, something with multiple playable characters, some 3D platforming, something casual... He should just play Kirby... that's 3/4 of what he's looking for it seems. I definitely see that he grew out of the Sonic franchise and I too have my gripes with the current direction of the series but I think his video should have been prefaced as a discussion video where he goes over his perspective and why he doesn't like the franchise anymore... Even though some of his points will still make him look silly.
There's also a guy named Pixelrush who also said some nonsense in his video about the story of Shadow Generations even the game as a whole. And most comments agree on him that Shadow Generations is mid in 3d platform and story.
18:58 he was clickbited in to thinking it was going to be only levels from the classic games, since he doesn’t care about levels from sonic game from 2006 or sonic game from 200? Since he can’t remember them because he never played them in the first place. I find it funny that the experience gets worse as he goes on, considering he loves the classic games, probably played sa1 and 2 and heroes, didn’t like that and realised the games weren’t for him anymore and then 06 unleashed and colours he didn’t play at all. It’s kind of like he only enjoyed the game because it was a case of look they did the thing or look it’s the place from the game I remember!
It's okay if you don't like Sonic games anymore and don't buy new ones because of that. Just don't pretend like you know the game sucks if you haven't even tried it.
He doesn't try to care about the rewards he gets when playing the game, so it feels like he doesn't get rewarded, so the games are bad, expect some of them ig. That's as close to a reasoning as I could get
This guy just completely misses the point of these modern sonic games. A lot of people like these games because of the ability to just go as fast as you want and be as stylish as you want. He's using his subjecting preference for "playing as other characters" and framing it as like a general benchmark a sonic game needs to have in order to be objectively good when inr reality it just is completely unnecessary for a lot of other fans.
This guy's video is the equivalent of pluging a power strip into itself to create "infinite power." His argument is litterally just "this game is bad because its bad!"
Maybe it's best he didn't play Frontiers, given his showings on the ark bro might still be struggling to climb up the towers in the update 3 to this very day. But in all honesty I can't get a read on what the guy actually wants from the series other than more classic elements? But he dislikes Super Stars. Is it because it's 3D models and not sprites? Cause I mean it hits the multiple characters, its not rank focused or encouraged like the 3D games.
@@TheGamingRift11 You're very welcome, while I think its fair for everyone to have their own opinion (That is your right) its good with vids like yours that call out takes that are honestly in bad faith like His.
You made a great point off the bat! For example, I'm a Sonic fan, but I don't like Frontiers because of how repetitive it can be sometimes, and it's complicated However, I can understand that it's objectively an amazing game among most people
The only thing I got from his rant was: "Guys look at me! This is my IGN application! I'll totally nailed it...what do you mean IGN gave this game a 9?"
This guy is the embodiment of "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" or dare I say the even more dreaded "Sonic was never good". He can't say stuff like "Sonic Forces me to hate his games" however since that's all on him.
1:06 I kinda get what he's tryna say. Like, you can look at a lot of games and tell they aren't for you (then again, he did say that you can tell if something is bad, and that just doesn't work)... the thing is, Sonic is a franchise where that just doesn't work. You need that hands-on experience to tell if it's good or bad. I don't know how to describe it, but I'll give an example instead. I hadn't played Adventure 2 growing up, and I thought it looked mid as hell, but when I finally played it for the first time, everything just clicked. I had a lotta fun.
Exactly - some genres aren’t for you and that’s totally fine But this guy loves some sonic games yet doesn’t give some games a fair chance in the sonic series
Nah, Adventure 2 looked fun and was fun. Whenever a game looked "mid" (pretty tired of that word now) it was as boring to play as it was to watch. Actually more boring because you can't even skip parts.
Bro that guy's the same type of guy as pokemon genwunners Everything after the first game is trash for things that...that first game also had One example would be "The same gameplay all the time" or "the gameplay has only got worse" gen 1 is incredibly barebones and from gen 1 to 4 there were so many changes to battle mechanics it's a completely different games, just like how sonic one is very barebones and the franchise gets more complex while not making the gameplay any more difficult to understand, there's just more to master. What matter here isn' the gameplay style, but how it is implemented into the game Also, let me point out that completely idiotic and outright braindead "going as fast as you can" argument THAT IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT 😭🙏 Actually lobotomized bro Oh my god he actually dissed the music our lord and saviour please I beg of you stop me from doing the atrocities I'm being tempted on performing
Yeah, sound about right when the genwunners are involved. Problem I have with people like this, is that they miss the whole point with games like Gens or even gen 5.
I would agree that the boost formula in particular has issues with exploration, but Shadow Gens would easily be the best boost game if it just had more levels.
@@TheGamingRift11 I mean that more in terms of you being unable to slow down and look around more than the lack of things to do. The boost games give you very little ability to look back and tend to lock your camera in a way that if you try to move backwards you are pretty much doing it blind.
I hate that I agree with a lot of things this guy is saying. Like I want more characters, slower gameplay (not slow, just not super speed boosting), and I'm not fussed about getting the best ranks I can. But I'm also not going to say most of the newer games are just terrible because it's not my style. Also Shadow Generations was actually amazing. I don't think it's the best Sonic game, but it's up there. If the gameplay and level design was more like Shadow Gens, I wouldn't actually mind more boost titles.
An adventure game with multiple characters like sonic, tails, knuckles, shadow etc with everyone having like 10 fleshed out stages in their campaigns, IMO would be better than sonic mania
Ladies and Gentlemen we have found the one biggest hater of the Sonic games, he is a Mario fan in disguise Also I get alot of the stage mods but why is Rooftop Run in Minnesota Vikings colors
Game company's should make where you can play the game for 20 minutes to see if you want to buy it edit: he would love sonic force if he wants to explore in a sonic game
He says he like exploring but he HATES FRONTEIRS?! It’s literally an exploring game unlocking prices to see the whole map?!? Actually might be just so stupid to say lol.
“You can tell a Sonic game is bad just by looking at it.” Ah, yes, and you can tell Concord is a masterpiece of video game engineering just by hearing that it’s a Hero shooter.
If that man doesn’t like modern sonic and prefers classic sonic then just say that instead of harassing your viewers when they share their criticism. especially if your saying the game is bad but yet showing that you do not know what you’re doing from the gameplay you showed. Personally in my opinion there’s no such thing as “The Best Sonic Game “. Everyone has their personal preferences when playing any sonic game or sonic media. Some people like 06 some people like the storybook games and free riders. However we as the sonic fandom shouldn’t talk down or give threatening comments towards anyone for having an opinion saying they love sonic secret rings. He is probably one of those people who want to criticize certain games and not give a fair point on it. Sonic is doing great as a series and as a brand however I feel the mandates and business decisions are holding the series back to its full potential.
I *HATE* when the adventure fans say the adventure games are better because *old = better* when unleashed is literally better than 90% of the adventure era games- plus in his comments he tries to defend sonic adventure 2 but when someone likes the boost games he literally cuts them off and say if they *LIKED* it then we won't have good sonic games
Geez this guy is painful to listen too and watch, I'm not a perfect Sonic player but I'd like to think I'm pretty good far better than this guy. Also side note if your disagreeing with the most basic fundementals of a long running series than sorry your just not a fan of it. I would'nt play a Call of Duty game and trash on every element that's likely been in place since the first game for example even though I don't like shooters.
To answer ur question, he’s very Scottish, I’m Canadian and have some Scottish friends, and lemme tell you he is not from Canada. Also rlly nice video man!
Ok I will say this. The only game you can legitimately tell is bad without playing is Sonic 06. And thats ONLY because you look up the gameplay of the ORIGINAL. NOT P-06. And see all the glitches and stuff that are really just objectively bad. Like, subjectively. I don't think I can sit here and declare whether or not I would have a good time with the game cause I've never played it. But I certainly can say that OBJECTIVELY, its terrible. So yeah. Thats my 2 cents for this vid.
Even then, 06 might be objectively a mess but some people legitimately enjoy it despite those flaws - subjective vs objective… Yet that guy doesn’t even give games a fair chance
@@Panther_boii fr it’s like saying every sonic game will be bad just because another one was or that oh you can tell that all games are bad or good if you look most of the that doesn’t apply
I don't understand since it's pretty ambiguous, but I'll assume that you mean that him buying the Sonic game was dumb because he doesn't like Sonic, or something along those lines.
@@TheGamingRift11If Charmy played like how he did in Chaotix And Cream in Sonic Advance 2 …maybe.. ..possibly.. I love stupid op shit don’t blame me shshsh
He isn't completely wrong though, the boost game/2D sections have gone stale, lately it has been half-steps because they want to try new things but it's held back by the restraints of what was already there. I don't want to hold the boost button to go down hallways and deal with fodder robots, there's more they could've done but I wouldn't call it peak like most people overhype it to be.
@@TheGamingRift11 it has a good story but the gameplay holds it back because of familiarity along with it being a cash-in/cash-grab for the hype of the movie.
Does the guy critiquing modern sonic and shadow realize his own argument with the quote from the title of this video be used against him "Why are classic sonic games boring" edit does this this guy criticizing modern sonic games realize that the replayability of the modern sonic is too get the higher score, faster time, not take damage literally the same thing as the classic game ypu replay them so you can get to master the speed of sonic so who can not take damage, complete the levels faster and get a higher time and speed score. Like it hasn't changed too much from the first game to the last
What are you talking about Blaze was fun to play as in 06. And the Advance, and Rush games did multiple playable characters right they were fun to play as and were functional.
@@Superminecraftsonic yes Blaze was one of the better characters in 06 but no character in that game was close to fantastic. I specifically focused on the 3D games since that’s what he had the biggest issue with, especially when discussing games like frontiers where it’s multiple characters in a 3D open zone.
Part of me thinks hes rage baiting here with this just because his voice sounds so tired and uninterested, like its another day at the office playing the algorithm. Otherwise, if the game wasnt for him thats fine, but like you've emphasized he's not liking basic mechanics common to almost all Sonic games which is perplexing, but more perplexing is why waste so much time making a video on such a nothing take, again i think hes rage baiting but i do think he genuinely beleives what hes saying too which is kinda sad the man is like broken
Sonic's games are not simply about speed, they're about the specific way that speed is reached and maintained: Momentum. Sonic is defined by momentum-based platforming and slope physics. The original game even had a run speed cap, and exceeding it could get you killed due to screen wrapping. And that's the main problem with 3D Sonic: The element that has defined Sonic's gameplay since the inception of the series is completely absent, and not only that, is replaced by elements that actively undermine it, like boosting, which itself feeds into other degenerative systems like fodder enemies that offer zero gameplay potential and only exist to build boost. Plus the addition of a third dimension of space basically breaks the game, which is why most recent 3D games restrict movement on the third axis. The extra dimension adds so many degrees of freedom to every action that even something as simple as landing on a floating enemy in free space is downright impossible. Which necessitates the homing attack, yet _another_ way in which Sonic actively undermines its own design and gameplay by reducing what was once a nuanced act of judging speed, jump timing and height, and then using aerial control to fine-tune your jump is all reduced to a button press that does it all for you. Garbage. Something like the Green Hill Act 3 speedrun strategy is functionally impossible in 3D Sonic. 3D Sonic sucks because it has to sacrifice everything that defines Sonic and makes the games good. The 3D games are shallow, dynamically-compressed, and offer less gameplay potential across-the-board than the 2D games.
Again not necessarily 🤷♂️ The series has gone through so many changes that comparing 2D or adventure gameplay to the boost gameplay would be a false comparison at this point
@@TheGamingRift11 It's only "changed" because the move to the 3rd dimension necessitated massive design changes because 3D does not work with Sonic's core design without changes that undermine everything that makes Sonic games good. It's not a false comparison, because those new functions only exist _because_ of the 3D games; if Sonic never went 3D it's doubtful those changes are ever made, because 2D doesn't need them. It's less that the series has changed, and more that it has been forced to make huge sacrifices to even make Sonic functional in 3D.
@@Typotypes hehe thanks dude!! And it’s the Sonic Generations Reimagined mod (or one of them at least, it could be outdated in the future?) Check out Blue Vivacity as he got me into modding generations!!
You are the stereotypical Sonic fan. In your first “point” if you can call it that he literally said he played a good chunk of Shadow first, then you “confused yourself” by not listening to what he said along with you trying to roast him for saying he played it because it’s a new game. Log off dude. Like physically. Because your video is know different than this comment
"Log off dude. Like physically." dude, you're seriously gonna tell someone to KILL THEMSELVES because they're defending shadow generations??? holy shit man, what would happen if someone did actually kill themselves? then what?
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Bro literally BOOSTED INTO two sets of lasers back to back, this is leagues worse than that IGN reviewer jumping over a dash panel to his death in Sonic Unleashed.
The only thing worse than his opinion is the absolute horrendous gameplay he's showing, this was a genuine skill issue, he needs to put down the controller.
GREAT THE GAMING RIFT SONIC AND SHADOW GENERATION BOOMER GAMERS ARE BORING 💤 SERIOUSLY MAN
Wanna see even more horrible gameplay watch me try to pass the start of angel island and keep falling
Yeah, the commentary and the bad gameplay make me think this video is probably ragebait.
Just put the controller on the table bruh🤦🏾♂️
That gave me IGN Sonic Unleashed flashbacks 💀
7:37 My man wasted Chaos Control on just going on the ramp instead of going into the Chaos Dash path right next to the ramp... & he thinks he's got a word to say...
I mean he has freedom of speech but I agree, he barely even tried to connect with the game
@@TheGamingRift11you’re Bad man
@@TheGamingRift11 Yeah, I agree with ya, everyone's got free speech. But some people should know when to keep things to themselves. If you aren't gonna try with the game, why bother?
The entire point of a rank system is to reward the player for playing the game well. Not getting hit, completing the game in the fastest time and even using alternate paths are fun ways to experience the games.
I don’t buy Mario games anymore, I only have them if given as gifts, so I’ll still play them a bit. Why? Eh, I just don’t have much fun, it’s a subjective thing. See how easy that is to say? Why did the guy need to spend an entire video trying to make him not having fun in a game an objective thing, if you don’t like a game that’s fine. And him complaining that he wasting his money on a game he knew he wouldn’t like is just straight up infuriating, “I don’t like pistachio ice cream, so lemme just buy some and complain that I wasted my money!” See how stupid that sounds?
I’m allergic to Lemons. Let me buy a pack 😂… makes no sense
Reminds me of a guy I know that bought and played every single mainline pokemon game and never once liked any of them even a little bit
WHY DID YOU KEEP BUYING THEM THEN DAWG
Ironic that you bring up Mario because I was thinking throughout the video "This guy sounds like he'd prefer Mario games more"
You know what's funny about Sonic Mania is that although it's a 2d game it stills rewards you for being fast. If you do really well at the end of an act you get an extra life.
A good thing from the classic games that mania also has is that being fast isn't the only way to have fun with the game. If you learn the level design, you'll know where all the best rewards are, be it shields, rings or lifes. Eventually letting you have like 60 lifes by the end of the game
@@KperaOfficial neither is any other sonic game . sure , the main way to have fun is "gotta go fast" , but you have other ways enjoy.
@@KperaOfficialI think that’s why 2D Sonic games (particularly the classic ones) are universally liked. It’s accessible whatever skill level you’re at.
My brother in Christ if you don’t want the pressure of going as fast as possible and getting the best rank, then just don’t do it it’s that simple
True 😂
lowkey looked at that video's comment section and...man, the amount of people ive seen in that thing not understanding boost sonic's design philosophy made me have an aneurysm, dog
at this point, we can have a 10/10 sonic game and these ppl would STILL say it's mid because it's sonic, i genuinely hate it here
Welp… welcome to this comment section with open arms I guess
Sonic Generations is a very good game but like every other good game or media the more it exists the less it gets appreciated and mf,s like him start to hate just to "be different".
real
this guy kinda reminds me of a streamer i watched recently, they were playing sonic adventure DX. he said that SADX was bad because he had to build speed so that he could make a jump. and when a chatter asked him if he genuinely hated the game and he said "yes, along with sonic adventure 2". he didn't really go into reasoning though for SA2
That’s like saying “ Mario 64 is bad because you have to perform some moves to make a certain jump “. Like does bro not understand how stupid that sounds? Like, thats the whole point of a Sonic game. That if genuinenly one of the dumbest things I’ve heard today.
That’s like saying Mario kart sucks because you have to steer the kart
That guy would be great friends with the sonic unleashed reviewer
Yea that’s why i hete sonic unleashed
I actually like Sonic Unleashed, though I don't know who your talking about.
Watch the ign sonic unleashed xbox 360/ps3 review then come back to me
Their favourite game was probably pong on their atari 2600 back in like 1980s
That game changed them forever
As someone who likes 06 I'd never use it when hating on another sonic game
He basically said “I don’t care enough to care and that’s the game’s fault.”
Or everyone else’s fault 😂
Game critics/Boomers has two opinions on 3D Sonic.
1. When a Sonic game is functional, It's boring.
2. When a 3D Sonic game is glitchy, all of them are. Even though that only applies to Sonic 06 & Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric.
Side Note: The first one only applies to Lost World(kinda) & Forces.
You are so right my brother, yes!
Yes, spit your truths! Tell them!
You are so correct!
I personally think lost world is a fine game but I definitely understand why people think it isn't particularly great
But I definitely agree that these are the only 3.5 bad sonic games
The others are either barely debatablr or not at all
@dubhog I think Lost World is solid game. I think it falls under the radar because it tries to be Mario than Sonic.
i mean the adventure games are kinda buggy (especially sadx) but those are the only ones i can think of
@@Reset2150676 but it's more of the kind of buggy that just adds to the game with it's jank
Just like something like half life 2
The physics engine can be janky but it literally just adds to the game cuz it's funny in my opinion lmao
@dubhog I do not think falling through the emerald coast loop is “adding to the game”
If any other platformer released something like Sonic 06, that would be the death of the series.
But for some reason, Sonic will not stay dead and I love that.
Not necessarily.
EXCELLENT THE GAMING RIFT WORK.
@metal_pipe9764 I beg your pardon? Please, elaborate!
@@radudumitru3306 why are you begging though?
@@radudumitru3306 but anyways, I don't know of any examples of it happening in video games, does Shrek count?
At 3:29 he boosts straight into the lasers. Me: This is going to be fun😂. IGN should really hire him
You can tell he's a boost hater because he almost never boost.
He barely spin dashed either as classic sonic 😂
1:07 : never judge a book by its cover”❌
judge a book by its cover”✅ ahh reply😭🙏💀
And then people wonder why they're getting bullied for their opinions. Half of the shit he said dont even make sense.
Same this game doesn’t seem to know what his talking about
I mean being harassed ain’t okay, but he ain’t exactly doing himself any favours
@@TheGamingRift11, nah, we dont do that, what we do is heavily criticize their foolish opinions. When they start to act up about it? That's when they get the harassment.
He says he like exploring but he HATES FRONTEIRS?! It’s literally an exploring game unlocking prices to see the whole map?!? Actually might be just so stupid to say
You know, Sonic Boom has multiple playable characters, maybe he should give that game a shot. :)
Oh yeah!!! Apparently he can tell at a glance if a game is good or not!
Maybe forces would be up his street too
We can just throw in 06 too
This guy is IGN 16 years ago.
I've heard this thing somewhere about the experimentalist ( or something similar) and simulationist. One wants to expierience games as that an experience, emersing themselves in the world ,while the other want to experience the game as a game , where the only thing that matters is the end goal, being as efficient as possible in a metric that can be measured, like score or time. the boomer is basically an experimentalist that feels he can't emerse themselves into the sonic franchise , witch is fair since recent games appeal to the simulationist, with the ranking and it being more time based, but you don't gotta be a hater about it. Personaly I emerse myself by being in the action (becoming the character and thinking of what they would do, in this case, shadow hurrying since he has to stop black doom),rather than the place, unlike the boomer.
"Last Good Looking Game Was Mania". Yeah, You Can Tell He's A 3D Hater.
True true. Besides I think Superstars was decent tbh
@@TheGamingRift11true the only problem I have with it is my skill issue with Tripp's stages.
Bro is trying his hardest to be accepted by IGN,also hating on Sonic frontiers is insane, I don't have this game but from what I've seen it's actually one of the best Sonic games we had in years.
It's disgusting how stupid these sh*tposters of games are. I'm glad you call them out on it. I'm thinking about making my own videos sticking up for games with actual popular negative reception.
Yeah, I'd Defend Forces Til My Death.
@Super_Cinder.Inferno a plus, I'd say in forces is creating your own character who is arguably slightly below Shadow's power level.
@@KingOfQuinns You Got Me To Say My Part, I'll Let You Slide Off My List. I Do Agree That Shadow Is Stronger Cause In The Story It Does Seem Like He Has An Emerald The Whole Time.
@Super_Cinder.Inferno i said arguably not is
Get ur ass in the discord server and I’ll help however I can 🎉
He should just play Mario games if he just wants fun. Sonic is more about maintaining your momentum and using that obtained momentum to clear stages faster. While Sonic isn't just about speed per se, it is a major factor of gameplay given that momentum is usually the key mechanic for the series.
Unrelated but Sonic Advance 3, while not liked by many and being a handheld game, handled other playable characters pretty well in my opinion. Each character had their own unique traits within their movesets that changed how you play the game. And while I would like to say that Sonic Rush also handled Blaze pretty well as another playable character, I am aware that there were only 3 or 4 things that made her different from Sonic.
With his point of liking playing as Sonic's friends I think that Sonic is the closest to the kind of game that he wants. Sounds like he want's something faster than Mario but slower than Sonic, something with multiple playable characters, some 3D platforming, something casual... He should just play Kirby... that's 3/4 of what he's looking for it seems.
I definitely see that he grew out of the Sonic franchise and I too have my gripes with the current direction of the series but I think his video should have been prefaced as a discussion video where he goes over his perspective and why he doesn't like the franchise anymore... Even though some of his points will still make him look silly.
That guy has skill issue that f**king simple
There's also a guy named Pixelrush who also said some nonsense in his video about the story of Shadow Generations even the game as a whole. And most comments agree on him that Shadow Generations is mid in 3d platform and story.
18:58 he was clickbited in to thinking it was going to be only levels from the classic games, since he doesn’t care about levels from sonic game from 2006 or sonic game from 200? Since he can’t remember them because he never played them in the first place. I find it funny that the experience gets worse as he goes on, considering he loves the classic games, probably played sa1 and 2 and heroes, didn’t like that and realised the games weren’t for him anymore and then 06 unleashed and colours he didn’t play at all. It’s kind of like he only enjoyed the game because it was a case of look they did the thing or look it’s the place from the game I remember!
Such a shame
This bro reminds me of a guy I met who was calling me dumb for liking 3D Sonic over 2D.
Good video btw
Tbh I think 3D is better than 2D tbh… and thanks bud!! 🎉
It's okay if you don't like Sonic games anymore and don't buy new ones because of that. Just don't pretend like you know the game sucks if you haven't even tried it.
He doesn't try to care about the rewards he gets when playing the game, so it feels like he doesn't get rewarded, so the games are bad, expect some of them ig.
That's as close to a reasoning as I could get
This guy just completely misses the point of these modern sonic games. A lot of people like these games because of the ability to just go as fast as you want and be as stylish as you want. He's using his subjecting preference for "playing as other characters" and framing it as like a general benchmark a sonic game needs to have in order to be objectively good when inr reality it just is completely unnecessary for a lot of other fans.
Exactly - the franchise has gone through many changes- with speed taking priority than it used to
This guy's video is the equivalent of pluging a power strip into itself to create "infinite power." His argument is litterally just "this game is bad because its bad!"
Maybe it's best he didn't play Frontiers, given his showings on the ark bro might still be struggling to climb up the towers in the update 3 to this very day.
But in all honesty I can't get a read on what the guy actually wants from the series other than more classic elements? But he dislikes Super Stars. Is it because it's 3D models and not sprites? Cause I mean it hits the multiple characters, its not rank focused or encouraged like the 3D games.
28:40
Because you have a rare condition known as "Common Sense" sometimes referred to as "Logical Thinking"
Why thank you!! I certainly try my best
I hope you enjoyed the video
@@TheGamingRift11 You're very welcome, while I think its fair for everyone to have their own opinion (That is your right) its good with vids like yours that call out takes that are honestly in bad faith like His.
You made a great point off the bat!
For example, I'm a Sonic fan, but I don't like Frontiers because of how repetitive it can be sometimes, and it's complicated
However, I can understand that it's objectively an amazing game among most people
Frontiers ain’t my thing but it has phenomenal moments
@TheGamingRift11 Yeah, But The Soundtrack is definitely one of the best in the series though🔥
The only thing I got from his rant was: "Guys look at me! This is my IGN application! I'll totally nailed it...what do you mean IGN gave this game a 9?"
12:02 not to mention sonic frontiers and super stars as well
This guy is the embodiment of "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" or dare I say the even more dreaded "Sonic was never good".
He can't say stuff like "Sonic Forces me to hate his games" however since that's all on him.
Sonic was never green.
This is the kind of guy who would play Mario kart and get annoyed by the fact that the kart doesn’t drive itself
1:06 I kinda get what he's tryna say. Like, you can look at a lot of games and tell they aren't for you (then again, he did say that you can tell if something is bad, and that just doesn't work)... the thing is, Sonic is a franchise where that just doesn't work. You need that hands-on experience to tell if it's good or bad. I don't know how to describe it, but I'll give an example instead.
I hadn't played Adventure 2 growing up, and I thought it looked mid as hell, but when I finally played it for the first time, everything just clicked. I had a lotta fun.
Exactly - some genres aren’t for you and that’s totally fine
But this guy loves some sonic games yet doesn’t give some games a fair chance in the sonic series
Nah, Adventure 2 looked fun and was fun. Whenever a game looked "mid" (pretty tired of that word now) it was as boring to play as it was to watch. Actually more boring because you can't even skip parts.
Even if the games are bad or good those mid game cutscenes are filled with Sauce
Bro that guy's the same type of guy as pokemon genwunners
Everything after the first game is trash for things that...that first game also had
One example would be "The same gameplay all the time" or "the gameplay has only got worse" gen 1 is incredibly barebones and from gen 1 to 4 there were so many changes to battle mechanics it's a completely different games, just like how sonic one is very barebones and the franchise gets more complex while not making the gameplay any more difficult to understand, there's just more to master. What matter here isn' the gameplay style, but how it is implemented into the game
Also, let me point out that completely idiotic and outright braindead "going as fast as you can" argument
THAT IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT 😭🙏
Actually lobotomized bro
Oh my god he actually dissed the music our lord and saviour please I beg of you stop me from doing the atrocities I'm being tempted on performing
Yeah, sound about right when the genwunners are involved. Problem I have with people like this, is that they miss the whole point with games like Gens or even gen 5.
I would agree that the boost formula in particular has issues with exploration, but Shadow Gens would easily be the best boost game if it just had more levels.
I think that’s fair - I think both Generations games did best for exploration cause of the whole multiple pathways thing
@@TheGamingRift11 I mean that more in terms of you being unable to slow down and look around more than the lack of things to do. The boost games give you very little ability to look back and tend to lock your camera in a way that if you try to move backwards you are pretty much doing it blind.
Can I say first? Nah that feels cringe.
You might be my new friend
This is more cringe
I hate that I agree with a lot of things this guy is saying. Like I want more characters, slower gameplay (not slow, just not super speed boosting), and I'm not fussed about getting the best ranks I can. But I'm also not going to say most of the newer games are just terrible because it's not my style.
Also Shadow Generations was actually amazing. I don't think it's the best Sonic game, but it's up there. If the gameplay and level design was more like Shadow Gens, I wouldn't actually mind more boost titles.
An adventure game with multiple characters like sonic, tails, knuckles, shadow etc with everyone having like 10 fleshed out stages in their campaigns, IMO would be better than sonic mania
@@TheGamingRift11 Absolutely, god I dream of such things.
Ladies and Gentlemen we have found the one biggest hater of the Sonic games, he is a Mario fan in disguise
Also I get alot of the stage mods but why is Rooftop Run in Minnesota Vikings colors
That's The Best Description Of Every Sonic Hater In History.
@Super_Cinder.Inferno indeed
Game company's should make where you can play the game for 20 minutes to see if you want to buy it
edit: he would love sonic force if he wants to explore in a sonic game
They used to do that with game trials and demos - I miss those days
HIS PLAYTHROUGH REMINDS ME OF A SONIC MANIA REVIEW THAT HATED ON THAT GAME AND I GOT SOOOO TRIGGERED LIKE OF COURSE U HATE THE GAME U PLAY HORRIBLY
7:46 holy crap is that classic metal sonic mach 3.0??
This Hooman Should Stay In The Past
Exactly. He Can't Change Or Evolve.
How much are we putting on that this guy is gonna make a video criticizing his criticism on the game
And then make a community post exposing his criticism
He says he like exploring but he HATES FRONTEIRS?! It’s literally an exploring game unlocking prices to see the whole map?!? Actually might be just so stupid to say lol.
I didn’t even pick up on that 😂 you are correct
“You can tell a Sonic game is bad just by looking at it.”
Ah, yes, and you can tell Concord is a masterpiece of video game engineering just by hearing that it’s a Hero shooter.
Ahh yes… that’s how it works! That comment made me laugh ngl
If that man doesn’t like modern sonic and prefers classic sonic then just say that instead of harassing your viewers when they share their criticism. especially if your saying the game is bad but yet showing that you do not know what you’re doing from the gameplay you showed.
Personally in my opinion there’s no such thing as “The Best Sonic Game “.
Everyone has their personal preferences when playing any sonic game or sonic media. Some people like 06 some people like the storybook games and free riders. However we as the sonic fandom shouldn’t talk down or give threatening comments towards anyone for having an opinion saying they love sonic secret rings. He is probably one of those people who want to criticize certain games and not give a fair point on it. Sonic is doing great as a series and as a brand however I feel the mandates and business decisions are holding the series back to its full potential.
What do you guys think?
Love it
I *HATE* when the adventure fans say the adventure games are better because *old = better* when unleashed is literally better than 90% of the adventure era games-
plus in his comments he tries to defend sonic adventure 2 but when someone likes the boost games he literally cuts them off and say if they *LIKED* it then we won't have good sonic games
@@TheGamingRift11 I farted
FACTS
FACTS
AND FACTS!!! @@Xomsedits
@@Xomseditsbig facts right there
Canadian here, THAT is not one of us, thanks
Yeah I think he’s Scottish 😂 cheers dude
Bro literally bought the Game just so he can rant about it and get views People nowadays😓
Me personally, if you look like you don't know how to play a video game, especially a Sonic game like Generations, your opinion is invalid.
Link to vid?
I wouldn’t recommend sending hate to that guy
Sonic x shadow generations is one of my favorite game
Geez this guy is painful to listen too and watch, I'm not a perfect Sonic player but I'd like to think I'm pretty good far better than this guy. Also side note if your disagreeing with the most basic fundementals of a long running series than sorry your just not a fan of it. I would'nt play a Call of Duty game and trash on every element that's likely been in place since the first game for example even though I don't like shooters.
Call of duty is trash cause I hate first person shooters 😂…. It’s dumb logic
To answer ur question, he’s very Scottish, I’m Canadian and have some Scottish friends, and lemme tell you he is not from Canada. Also rlly nice video man!
Thank you!! I’m glad you enjoyed it nice to meet a Canadian for a change!!
16:37 who said this again?
(Is a sonic 3 & knuckles glazer)
Sometimes inside thoughts should stay inside
Welp that was more worse then brainrot
Ok I will say this. The only game you can legitimately tell is bad without playing is Sonic 06. And thats ONLY because you look up the gameplay of the ORIGINAL. NOT P-06. And see all the glitches and stuff that are really just objectively bad. Like, subjectively. I don't think I can sit here and declare whether or not I would have a good time with the game cause I've never played it. But I certainly can say that OBJECTIVELY, its terrible. So yeah. Thats my 2 cents for this vid.
Even then, 06 might be objectively a mess but some people legitimately enjoy it despite those flaws - subjective vs objective…
Yet that guy doesn’t even give games a fair chance
I was watching this and randomly got mentioned and it genuinely startled me.
You’re welcome dude!! He looked like a bit of a knob the way he spoke to you 🫡 hope ur having a good day
It’s kinda cool you got mentioned w opinion
@@Deadlymonk12 Yeah, I'm okay with someone disliking Frontiers or Superstars, but saying you don't like it, without playing it is wild to me.
@@Panther_boii fr it’s like saying every sonic game will be bad just because another one was or that oh you can tell that all games are bad or good if you look most of the that doesn’t apply
He really made the most dumb decision to even buy sonic games
Not true at all.
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I don't understand since it's pretty ambiguous, but I'll assume that you mean that him buying the Sonic game was dumb because he doesn't like Sonic, or something along those lines.
@saltendo2177 that is what I meant
What are those mods you are using in the gameplay of Sonic Generations?
Sonic generations reimagined - I think Blue Vivacity shows where to download it from
20:52 EY EY EY DON’T DISS MY GOATS CHARMY AND CREAM THEY’RE BUSTED AS HELL-😡
Would you rather play as them over sonic and shadow?
@@TheGamingRift11If Charmy played like how he did in Chaotix
And Cream in Sonic Advance 2
…maybe..
..possibly..
I love stupid op shit don’t blame me shshsh
He isn't completely wrong though, the boost game/2D sections have gone stale, lately it has been half-steps because they want to try new things but it's held back by the restraints of what was already there. I don't want to hold the boost button to go down hallways and deal with fodder robots, there's more they could've done but I wouldn't call it peak like most people overhype it to be.
@@TheShadowspear2 it’s not flawless but it has potential
@@TheGamingRift11 it has a good story but the gameplay holds it back because of familiarity along with it being a cash-in/cash-grab for the hype of the movie.
@@TheShadowspear2Colors, Sonic/Shadow Gens, Frontiers Hater Detected.
@Super_Cinder.Inferno dude, on god , please shut up
@@radudumitru3306 Ok, Now You're Just Rude.
great gameplay i think the original pc gens with mods is still better than the remaster
You can still use the same mods that have ever been in the remaster.
@ you can’t?
Eventually mod support will be stable with the remaster
@@TheGamingRift11 mod porting might be a bitch
This is almost definitly bait hes baiting ppl to get angry
I doubt it 😅
@@TheGamingRift11definitely not, from those comments you showed, he's definitely being unironically serious about his take.
This guys gameplay is terrible. I’m not the best but I still know how to get good scores.
Boring as characters, sure. They're not boting to play. Not as long as the levels are well designed.
Does the guy critiquing modern sonic and shadow realize his own argument with the quote from the title of this video be used against him "Why are classic sonic games boring" edit does this this guy criticizing modern sonic games realize that the replayability of the modern sonic is too get the higher score, faster time, not take damage literally the same thing as the classic game ypu replay them so you can get to master the speed of sonic so who can not take damage, complete the levels faster and get a higher time and speed score. Like it hasn't changed too much from the first game to the last
okay but i NEED to know what mods those are bro gah damn
Ur average pc sonic generations experience tbh 😊
Fr whatever mod he got I gotta get that because it’s peak mixing 2 of the best sonic games is perfection
What is blod yapin about?!?
Exactly
What are you talking about Blaze was fun to play as in 06. And the Advance, and Rush games did multiple playable characters right they were fun to play as and were functional.
@@Superminecraftsonic yes Blaze was one of the better characters in 06 but no character in that game was close to fantastic.
I specifically focused on the 3D games since that’s what he had the biggest issue with, especially when discussing games like frontiers where it’s multiple characters in a 3D open zone.
Yeah this guy needs to be hired by ign i never knew you can tell a bad sonic game by looking at it if that's the case then why is Sonic O6 a 7/10
Part of me thinks hes rage baiting here with this just because his voice sounds so tired and uninterested, like its another day at the office playing the algorithm. Otherwise, if the game wasnt for him thats fine, but like you've emphasized he's not liking basic mechanics common to almost all Sonic games which is perplexing, but more perplexing is why waste so much time making a video on such a nothing take, again i think hes rage baiting but i do think he genuinely beleives what hes saying too which is kinda sad the man is like broken
The dude is just disingenuous
Sonic's games are not simply about speed, they're about the specific way that speed is reached and maintained: Momentum. Sonic is defined by momentum-based platforming and slope physics. The original game even had a run speed cap, and exceeding it could get you killed due to screen wrapping.
And that's the main problem with 3D Sonic: The element that has defined Sonic's gameplay since the inception of the series is completely absent, and not only that, is replaced by elements that actively undermine it, like boosting, which itself feeds into other degenerative systems like fodder enemies that offer zero gameplay potential and only exist to build boost.
Plus the addition of a third dimension of space basically breaks the game, which is why most recent 3D games restrict movement on the third axis. The extra dimension adds so many degrees of freedom to every action that even something as simple as landing on a floating enemy in free space is downright impossible. Which necessitates the homing attack, yet _another_ way in which Sonic actively undermines its own design and gameplay by reducing what was once a nuanced act of judging speed, jump timing and height, and then using aerial control to fine-tune your jump is all reduced to a button press that does it all for you. Garbage. Something like the Green Hill Act 3 speedrun strategy is functionally impossible in 3D Sonic.
3D Sonic sucks because it has to sacrifice everything that defines Sonic and makes the games good. The 3D games are shallow, dynamically-compressed, and offer less gameplay potential across-the-board than the 2D games.
Again not necessarily 🤷♂️
The series has gone through so many changes that comparing 2D or adventure gameplay to the boost gameplay would be a false comparison at this point
@@TheGamingRift11 It's only "changed" because the move to the 3rd dimension necessitated massive design changes because 3D does not work with Sonic's core design without changes that undermine everything that makes Sonic games good.
It's not a false comparison, because those new functions only exist _because_ of the 3D games; if Sonic never went 3D it's doubtful those changes are ever made, because 2D doesn't need them.
It's less that the series has changed, and more that it has been forced to make huge sacrifices to even make Sonic functional in 3D.
Hey what mod are you using?
@@Lildeevil sonic generations reimagined - I downloaded it I believe from one of Blue Vivacity mod showcase videos
Thanks, watching you play that mod was way more bearable than whatever that guy said.
Im actually sad not of his horrible take but the fact he reminds me im a horrible gamer in the game or sonic in general
We’ve all gotta start from somewhere!
@@TheGamingRift11 but seriously I make him look like a professional
So @@TheGamingRift11 what do you think of the DC absolute universe if you love it how do you think you would do a absolute aonic
Bro is just yapping at this point
@MpiloNhlapo-p5t ?
@TheGamingRift11 Keep up with the good content man
Not even going to finish the video because watching you debunk idiots like him is a waste of my time
Yet you wasted your time clicking on the video, watched a percentage of it, and left a comment?? 🤔
Hold on stfu what are these mods? (Good video btw)
@@Typotypes hehe thanks dude!! And it’s the Sonic Generations Reimagined mod (or one of them at least, it could be outdated in the future?)
Check out Blue Vivacity as he got me into modding generations!!
@ thank you 🙏
You are the stereotypical Sonic fan. In your first “point” if you can call it that he literally said he played a good chunk of Shadow first, then you “confused yourself” by not listening to what he said along with you trying to roast him for saying he played it because it’s a new game. Log off dude. Like physically. Because your video is know different than this comment
"Log off dude. Like physically."
dude, you're seriously gonna tell someone to KILL THEMSELVES because they're defending shadow generations??? holy shit man, what would happen if someone did actually kill themselves? then what?
Well you certainly tried 😂
That why I hate sonic unleashed so much this guy sounds like toxic fan base of unleashed
How so?
@@TheGamingRift11 didn't he say he hated the boost games in the comments?