ATTACK ON TITAN's Ending Is Better Than You Think! (AOT Final Chapters Review & Discussion)
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The fact that everything is alredy was desided is misconseption . It was desided, because Eren wanted to be everything like that . Issyama stated: Eren tried to change something , but he couldnt not because he cant( but because deeply thats what he wanted. After all this future was his set up from begining ). He wamted to see this sight and he wanted to gave his friends long lifes . He was a slave not to destiny , but his desires, to freedom, to his nature .
Which literally still means that everything he saw is desided.
His destiny is a combination of how Eren's nature is and how the circumstances are.
That is the essentially what determinism is. You cannot change the future if you could travel through time because people would always make the same decisions as they are who they are
Actually Isayama has Eren admit that it was all Mikasa's decision... which was actually Ymir's decision... which was only made because of the Magic Space Worm... which was actually under Eren's control from the future... which actually wasn't a decision at all because there was no other option? 🤔 hmm... almost as if Isayama couldn't decide on which story route to take and the people claiming they understand Eren's motivations, including Isayama himself, are the ones misconceiving.
@@KeangoDLuke Time loops aren't determinism, because you could never determine if someone is about to show up from the future and change everything. Determinism means you can figure out (determine) the future from the present. With retroactive time travel that is impossible. Attack on Titan's universe is anti-deterministic.
@@rumfordc I don't think you know what determinism means dude. It means no matter what, you will always make the same decisions every single time
Isayama himself has said he’s not good at writing romance. It’s funny because he said he regrets not having mikasa and eren kiss in chapter 50 (season 2 finale) because he was too embarrassed to draw them kissing 😭 and knew he would struggle with the aftermath. Which is understandable since romance is not a focal point of aot.
I do think if he had them kiss in that moment it would’ve been less abrupt for some people in s4. However those who truly thought eren didn’t love her after he said he’d wrap his scarf around her forever are just not paying attention.
I don't think he should have them kiss at that S2 moment as kissing meant accept death. That moment was perfect as it is. Instead, he should have just built more off that moment for them after the fact.
He should've just had Eren do a couple things for her without her realizing but the audience sees. maybe have Armin ask about their connection and Eren tells him that he doesn't know how to feel because He has to protect her etc.
i love the aot ending, fits the themes of there being ultimate value in trying to escape the forest through understanding even if humanity will never truly be able to
This last episode too had so many great parallels and callbacks. My favorites being with Armin and the shell coming back, showing the importance of mindfulness and being present with Eren never noticing the shells beneath his feet till that moment in the paths since he was always looking forward, and with the question from the Marleyan commander on "Are you human or titan?" being brought back from season 1 and Armin resolving the situation once again as he did in the past. Also love that the spirit of the cadets embodies the theme of escaping the forest, one way or another you have to keep trying to be better, even if everything around you says that it's pointless, even if the world itself is pre detemined, the action of choosing to be better and keep fighting is what's important
Didn’t Eren Kruger say to Grisha he should find someone to love inside the walls and have a family? And that’s the only way to stop the cycle of hatred?
There’s a lot of interesting analysis threads on twitter if you’re interested!
Did you read the lyrics to the ending song when Mikasa va, Eren va, and Revo Sing ?
No they want jean and mikasa to end up together they don't care about her love for eren 😂😂
One plothole that I discovered on the multiple times I watched the ending is when Armin holds Eren's head crying Mikasa says something like you got your memories back too implying she got memories with Eren back but are the Ackermann's not meant to be a race that cant have their memories wiped? Not to mention the armor vial which Eren got his powers from not making sense or the sudden change from falco's jaw titan having no wings in its design at the Jaegerist harbour to having them because he dreamt about it. I could give him a copout for the last two but the Ackermann one feels like a continuity error
I thought Mikasa met Eren in the paths at that moment and didn't forget. Someone even pointed out that the reason why she knew where Eren was for some reason, was because Eren told her at the last moment when they were hugging.
Eren didn't erase her memory. She was brought into paths realtime.
I took that as you got your memories back too for everybody else since Mikasa obviously didn't forget anything as she replied to Eren telling her to forget about him and knowing he was in the mouth right before he died.
best show of all time
It was all born out of an extremely desperate desire to exercise his freedom, his freedom to get revenge, his freedom to fight, his freedom to keep going, and especially his freedom to protect others, all because he was special since the moment of his being born to the world, he did it for innumerous reasons all arising out of a single selfish desire that was just as much his birthright as it was anyone's else.
For his foretold future to change he would've had to overcome his own nature plain and simple. The problem is that he never tried once before, I mean why would he? In this uncertain world, where who knows what might happen, all of his convictions had brought him far, all he had to do was keep believing strongly in himself and everything would surely work out well right? No, it would only cost him more lives precious to him is what he found in those memories, memories that confirmed it was much too late to change his nature, too much had happened, the future and past of all those connected now made up his present, so he relied on the only conviction he had ever known in order to make sense of the mess, the one that had brought him thus far and that would bring him all the way to the very end, up until the very final memories deep within the unwinding connections and innumerous paths, the final memories of a 2,000 year long tale that would soon conclude, not knowing how, unable to see its conclusion.
In the end, he couldn't stop fighting and pushing on, especially not against his own contradictory nature and self, because in the end he was just an idiot like any other who was shackled by their dreams, ideals, and desires, by their convictions, yes, he most certainly was a slave to his freedom. And being a slave to anything, even to freedom, is something he couldn't stand for, and so if he was to ever truly get his desire and see his convictions through he would have to be willing to abandon much in order to truly change a single thing and disprove his own powerlessness. So he gave away that very same thing he always desired for and to those he treasured most, because he knew they would be the ones to conclude this story, this great bloody and horrific chapter in the greater tapestry of humanity.
As he said his selfish farewells and talked to them one last time within constructed realities of the freedom he would procure for them only to strip away those memories and return them only at the conclusion, except for the one he would be abandoning the most, he began to piece himself together is that small reprieve. Of course he didn't want die! Of course he didn't want to abandon anyone! Of course he wanted to live out his final remaining days with them no matter how short they were! But, even if he was now ready to change course, to really find another way by departing and abandoning his utmost desire, it was truly too late now, that sacrifice alone wouldn't be enough now, everything was already set into motion and well underway.
In that last memory deep within the realm in which neither life nor death existed, he gave her what she yearned most for, oh how he misunderstood her, I mean, how could someone love an idiot like him who was always charging ahead first? In those years he spent with her within that frozen realm, now more than ever was his resolve sharpened for the last time, and for the last time was his conviction made! Now more than ever would he exercise his freedom! By choosing to let his last breath be drawn, the world would at last be free to sever the accursed thread of that tale which began 2,000 years ago when a young girl committed a seemingly unimportant act of life, yet profound act of kindness, one that in the grand scheme of existence was unnecessary, but oh so important for those that would follow, for it spelled both their creation and destruction.
And so she followed suite, always eager to push ahead, to fight, to fight! And to always keep fighting on! All because of the purpose he gave her! She accepted the heart he gave up and in turn offered her own! As if to literally sever the accursed fate of that torturous past that haunted them, in return for the uncertain future of the world, she severed his head and held him in her hands as he drew his last breath before pressing a single solemn yet scarlet kiss upon his lips.
She had done it, with great torment and pain she had gone counter to her nature, no longer a slave herself, she had been set free, and so was he, that idiotic young boy who never gave up dreaming, that suicidal maniac that always charged ahead first, and that always kept pushing forwards, fighting until the very end. The tragedy of such a conclusion, of such selfless kindness all for the sake that uncertain and cruel, yet beautiful world moved that young girl who began this tale, undoing her shackles, and for once making a choice, for the hearts they had all given up, she would bring an end to the nightmarish and tormenting legacy of the last 2,000 years, setting herself free at last.
What remains is a cruel, and yet oh so beautiful world with a now uncertain future. For the time the world is at peace, the seasons pass, and nature reclaims, the heroes of the world savor their long lives until the very end, always dreaming, reaching for that horizon just out of reach, all in hopes of a timely resolution to the conflict, because that's just who they are, for the hearts they gave and the ones they were given, they must continue to believe strongly in themselves and in Humanity.
Humanity and life will march on, so there are most certainly new torments to come, but who knows? In this uncertain world anything could happen in the next 2,000 or perhaps 20,000 years from now. Just be sure to always remember the lessons of this cruel yet beautiful world; Tatakae! Tatakae! Shinzo wo Sasageyo!
I think the show is a masterpiece and the ending fits perfectly.
I think probably most fascinating thing about this series for me comes from Isayama's old interview in 2017 when he talked about his inspirations for ANOTHER. And he talked about best manga he's read "Himeanole", where main protagonist Morita is a serial killer. Whole Story poses a question if he became like this because he was bullied in school, but he comes to the conclusion that he was just born this way. Morita hates himself, wants to die or get caught, but he can't "Go against his nature" And continues to kill people hoping to finally feel happy and fulfilled. It's not that Eren is a full on psychopath, but I think that's why many fans have trouble of understanding his motivation of "I wanted to level everything and see this scenery". And we are not supposed to understand it. Isayama talked a lot, how he questiones weather people like this even deserve any love and how much they are at fault, if something is fundamentally broken in their brain
Armin lying multiple times, he lied about Annie getting torture, he lied "crying about Yelena's plans", he lied to eren to comfort him for the last time, he lied again he said he's the one who kills eren, Armin character is just 🔛🔝he lie for the best
Who could have thought, a manga could turn out to be a giant social / conceptual / ideology experiment. smh
This is the most lucid analysis of AoT I've seen since the finale came out. And I've seen a lot of them, trying several times to make many people understand that the ending, albeit with flaws in the exposition of some things, is perfectly consistent with what was previously told.
Unfortunately many people don't try to understand what a story wants to tell: they replace their ideas with those of the author, they only give importance to what interests them in the story and that's it: there is no worse deaf person than those who don't want to hear .
I finally have something to link instead of wasting time writing the same thing over and over again, thank you very much! It was maddening 🤣
Congratulations for this analytical masterpiece!
Shinzou Sasageyo ❤️🔥
It's not enough to want to tell something. I understand what story means and wants, it's just very bad at it. You need to deliver things properly, not just dump all the unfinished, rushed garbage in your head right on the paper.
@@miramaxcinemax5512 What specifically is poorly delivered in your opinion?
It all seems very clear to me.
Things probably got a bit toxic near the end of the livestream, but ultimately Ending Lovers and Ending Haters should just come to an understanding that they have a preference in their appreciation of certain storytelling. I personally don't care much for the ending but I also don't have an issue with other people's interpretation. It gets a bit too heated in fandom debates
Do something for years have fun on the road and at the end u have a miserable product, personality of the person matters at appreciation of story telling yes, but i dont think many people would prefer a miserable product at the end of their journey at any aspect of their life.
@@mehmetcelep4411Miserable product? Many people actually appreciate the ending which is compelling and not some edgy fanfic from titanfolk
@@mehmetcelep4411 If the toxic fans can't appreciate the brilliant ending they should instead watch something they do enjoy.
aot ending on a very very surface level i guess u can say its similar to code geass but aot is a way better story, its a lot more nuanced and complex with the themes and characters ect
Alot of the stuff like a episode dedicated to chasing a cat make code geass an overall better product.
i can't stop crying 😭🥺
38:36 thanks for pointing out the relation between Japanese culture and AOT.
There are 2 things you might not know yet. It's not only WW2 disaster and isolated islands history you mentioned.
1. It was right after AOT 3rd-4th volume released, big earthquake (2011.3.11) happened and huge Tsunami covered east Japan. At that time nobody was thinking any wave could break though coastal wall, but it did, like Colossal titan did break the Wall Maria. Japan is having that kind of Tsunami once in several 100 years.
2. Isayama is from Hita city in the center of Kyushu island in Japan. In Edo era (300 years), Hita is a territory of the central Edo government to keep eye on Kyushu district. So Hita is surrounded by enemies not only mountains. Isayama's roots resembles Paradise island.
I think what people have a struggle accepting is that Eren was powerless in the outcome of this story, despite being shown to have so much power. This end was already determined from the very beginning of the story. Even when Eren lived through different times with the founder's power, because his dream and his conviction were set in stone from the moment he was born, nothing could change because he would always make the same decisions which would lead to this outcome. The same applies with Ymir, she lived through and died from a toxic abusive relationship, and deep down she knew that there was something wrong with her perception or understanding of love, so she created a world where she could connect with her offspring for an infinite amount of time, so she could find a solution to the "love" that pained her so much. For 2000 years, she was searching for that person, someone to break her from her delusion, and she did, that was Mikasa. Everything happened as it was supposed to. Eren couldn't complete the rumbling because the Alliance would always stop him after destroying 80% of the population. It wasn't a decision, it's just what always happened. The whole story is a showcase of determinism and while I can understand not liking that thematic structure, it doesn't equate to plotholes in the story
Kinda unfair u put the title „better than u think“ when people hated the ending cause it was way worse in the manga. The anime fixed so much, review the manga ending if u wanna get why it got hate
Is the girl Canadian?
Honestly I don’t see how anyone that was paying attention could like the ending. And I feel like the way the scheduling was handled for the “final season” had a lot to do with people’s subdued or even nonexistent reactions to blatant plot holes that just go unexplained
It’s not subjective that Ackermans are immune to memory manipulation, and thus that entire cabin scene with Eren couldn’t possibly have happened
It’s not subjective that Zeke was already dead, the rumbling already stopped, Eren had no way of continuing to use the founder’s power since the worm hadn’t reconnected with him, and so he shouldn’t have been able to manifest a colossal Titan
It’s not subjective that Mikasa just knowing that Eren was in the mouth and not the nape like every other Titan shifter (excluding the warhammer of course) is a complete contrivance
It’s not subjective that Isayama changed how colossal titans worked so that Mikasa could get into the mouth without burning to death. I thought colossals burn their muscle mass in order to move, hence why the cast had so much trouble fighting Berthold, why Armin was burnt to a crisp, why Hange was burnt to a crisp, why the colossal titans emit steam and heat, and why the people who weren’t stepped on in the rumbling were burnt alive anyway.
It’s not subjective that Mikasa being Ymir’s parallel doesn’t work because Historia was already written to be that parallel and her defiance of her father mirrored the exact same freedom Ymir would’ve wanted. And by drawing a parallel between Mikasa and Ymir, that implies one between Eren and King Fritz which is completely ridiculous on its head
It’s not subjective that Eren not knowing why he did the rumbling runs counter to his natural tendency towards negative liberty, his previously stated resolve to protect his friends and homeland, and his own internal monologue. This also means that everything he told Floch and Historia were just lies.
It’s not subjective that the final conversation Armin has with Eren in paths presents a jarring and massive continuity error when you go back and watch Eren’s “freedom” scene during the rumbling. When that freedom scene ends and Eren turns to get Armin’s approval, Armin snaps out of paths and finds himself on the boat with Annie. But when he has that final conversation with Eren in paths at the sea, that ends and also brings him back to the boat with Annie. People just assumed these are just two parts of the same instance in paths but that can’t be the case. In one, Eren is relishing in the rumbling and celebrates the freedom he wins but committing genocide. Armin witnesses the massacre for himself. In the other, Eren is suddenly remorseful about the rumbling, doesn’t know why he did it, and Armin talks as if the rumbling hasn’t happened yet. So which conversation actually is took place and why is the story claiming these two tonally opposite conversations happened at the same time?
It’s not subjective that the Historia pregnancy subplot was just meaningless and a waste of screen time. It doesn’t make sense for anyone to ask their supposedly platonic friend what they think about them having a baby, it doesn’t make sense Historia would get pregnant to forestall the military’s plan to have her eat Zeke because Zeke wasn’t even in Paradis at the time. Why did Historia lie about her date of conception? Why all the mystery behind the pregnancy if it was just some random farmer’s baby and it means nothing to the story?
It’s not subjective that it doesn’t make sense for past Titan shifters like Kruger to help stop the rumbling. Kruger himself sacrificed many continental Eldians for the sake of the island’s longevity, to wrestle control of the founder away from the royal family specifically because they refused to fight for the survival of the Eldian race. Why on earth would he, of all people, undermine the rumbling and leave alive the people that wish for his race’s destruction?
It’s not subjective that Eren killing his mom was completely unnecessary and is just in for shock value. Was it to motivate himself to seek freedom and revenge against the titans? Eren already had that motivation before Carla ever died. Was it to explain why Dina knew to go for Grisha’s home? He already wrote in a reason when he had Dina promise Grisha she’d find him again, no matter what form she took. Why not have Dina eat Bert so Dina could turn into a shifter, secure the colossal Titan from the enemy, and have someone of Royal blood that could use her power to control the titans like Eren did after Hannes died? It would’ve been a huge setback for the enemy
These are just a few of the problems I personally had with the ending and there’s still many more I could get into, but it really seemed to me that Isayama had to bend the entire narrative backwards to make some of these twists and character re-contextualizations work. And he had to very suddenly and jarringly insert convenience after convenience and contrivance after contrivance to ensure the alliance would win with basically only one casualty (hange) because Isayama wrote himself into a corner where Eren couldn’t realistically be stopped, like how Kishimoto couldn’t realistically stop Madara without that out of nowhere Black Zetsu asspull. These all seem like little things until they all pile up in the final episode of an otherwise amazing series and people can’t help but be confused and think it’s kind of a garbage ending.
And like I said, I think the way the scheduling for this season was handled kind of numbed people to these issues. I think a lot of people just don’t remember that it was ever established that Ackermans are immune to memory manipulation, or that Pixis actually brought up the whole Lelouch concept to Eren before and Eren thought it was stupid. I’ve seen plenty of reactions to people watching the first special that came out earlier this year and they had no idea who Ramzi or his Grandpa were despite the fact we met all of them in the last episode of Season 4 part 3. A lot of people didn’t realize that the couple trapped in the jail cell during the rumbling were Grisha’s parents either. If those details can go completely missed, it’s understandable why some of the older details aren’t remembered at all, and thus people have no issue with the ending
Im too lazy to answer all your questions, but already see , that you are cant watch and read in first point. Eren cant manipulate Mikasa memories, thats why he came to her in real time in the very end , to say goodbye lol😂 He didnt wipe out her memory, and she remembers before his death. Like im sure the others plot holes you wrote also is not holes, and you just cant read😂😂😂
I read all of it. I know you pride yourself as someone who paid extra attention to the show, but just from what I read you just misremember the detail and misunderstand the intention of the author
@@user-df8lp9zq8s except that’s not the case because Eren presents the false scenario that they ran away together and left Paradis to its own devices. That never happened, but Mikasa responds as if it really did happen. Implanting a false scenario in her head and having her believe it is memory manipulation.
@@user-df8lp9zq8sare you mentally slow?
To address some of these:
Mikasa’s paths moment with Eren occurs just prior to her killing Eren. It is not like Armin’s or anyone else’s, as theirs occurred after Eren died due to memory manipulation. Moreover, what Eren did can’t be called memory manipulation in the first place. Mikasa’s memory weren’t altered or erased. He gave her a new memory, which itself was simply a fantasy, or alternate path for events. Mikasa was aware that Eren was interacting with her through that, she knew it was merely fantasy. No memory manipulation there.
Eren didn’t retransform entirely. The head of his titan remained, which actually means he just regenerated the body. This time the body was smaller because he lacked the full power of the founder. We know the founder’s power can remain after initial contact, as in the Season 2 finale where Eren could control titans for a while even after Dina’s titan was already dead. It seems like then, that he had enough residual power in addition to residing within an already formed titan head.
This one is more speculative, but it seems that Mikasa made an inference. The nape was fully destroyed, first by the explosives, and then by Armin. Yet, Eren survived, and only the head remained. Yes, Eren could have moved using the warhammer or been inside the brain cavity, but the most likely spot to infer would be the mouth cavity.
This critique just isn’t true. As seen in seasons 1-3 you can approach and touch a colossal without being burned. Eren ran on Bertholdt’s arm. The scouts in season 2 flew right next to his arm, Ymir resided in his mouth without dying, in season 3 the scouts approached Bert to fire thunder spears without dying, and Eren cut Berts nape without dying or being burned. It’s only when steam is actively emitted that the colossal becomes liable to kill by burning, as when Armin approached.
Literary parallels don’t require on exact matchup on all aspects to function. That’s a basic part of reading literature. Eren doesn’t have to be an exact match to Fritz just for Mikasa and Ymirs parallels to function. Moreover, parallels and symbols are polyvalent. Both Historia and Mikasa can parallel Ymir in similar and different ways.
Eren first says he doesn’t know, then says he did it for for himself. His mind is messed up because of his paths connection, and he is even estranged from himself. People can be complex and even contradictory.
This one is pretty obvious. The first interaction is all Armin remembered before killing Eren. It drove Armin away from Eren because Eren’s actions terrified him, which is what he wanted. The actual conversion was Eren’s real feelings that he wanted Armin to remember once the conflict was over.
Yeah Eren wanted to change the future but whenever he tried, he chose to keep doing what he saw in the future because that’s what he wanted to happen. He’s a half assed piece of shit. He saves Ramzi regardless because he wanted to even though he was going to kill him. He wanted to see the scenery of a flattened earth 😢
video suggestion, react to all openings and endings
Could you enable the subtitules? 🙏
For Ymir to be inspired by Mikasa's actions their relationship with Eren should be the same as Ymir and Fritz. Otherwise, why would she be inspired by her? And their relationships are VERY different. Isayama sucks at writing romance, so both of these were written atrociously. And Isayama knows that he is bad at writing romance, but for some reason he decided to write all of that at the very end (even though there was almost no romance in the entire series besides some minor hints maybe), rush it to shit, and make it a crucial point for the resolution of all this mess. How can you write a serious story with multiple heavy themes for a decade and then resolve everything with badly rushed romance? Mikasa is such an empty character too. The fact that she is Ackerman and Japanese princess doesn't give her any interesting characterisation or relevancy to the story (besides wow how badass she is), so let's rush her to being the most important character ever now at the very end. Reiner's resolution is sniffing Historia's letter. Historia is just thrown into the trash and forgotten. Conny exists. Levi is happy to kill all the titans, even though their problems moved so far past Survey Corp's original goal of getting rid of the titans it's not even funny. Jean got pity pussy. Armin was thanking Eren for genocide, but at least they removed this shit from anime, that's something. I don't even talk about every plot hole there is in the story and the world building, because I care about characters the most usually, and characters were done so badly at the end.
The relationship doesn't have to be exactly the same to apply its about loving somebody so much you'd do anything for them but being strong enough to let go of it. Ymir loved king Fritz just as much as Mikasa loved Eren if not more and saw she was able to put that love aside and kill/let eren die that is what matters nobody claimed they had the same level of toxicity in a relationship and thats where people don't get.
Thanks for doing this! Takes a lot of courage to take on the ending haters’ nonsense. Sometimes when there’s 2 interpretations, one of them that makes sense while the other that creates a plot hole / retcon, they choose to believe that other interpretation ignoring all the hints in the work that goes against it.
There’s some valid criticism of course but it’s really drowned by the echo chamber and bad faith arguments.
Fitting ending for the show
@Iamnotracistlmaocry about that
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@Iamnotracistlmao nakigotowoiu
nah
The whole "Mikasa died as a virgin because Eren." is so disgusting.
I want to point out that there was a whole subreddit, which got deleted by Reddit because they where inhuman and misogynistic.
Including "Mikasa is a dog and a sex slave."
That fits the whole "Eren is chat and Mikasa never cucked him."-propaganda.
This is literally the whole context of this situation.
Haa ofcourse people are gonna be angry isayama making eren a cuck and she marries jean but she loves eren
That thing was going on in the manga ofcourse people are gonna talk bad about mikasa
I think the most important thing is that she Mikasa remembers Eren Until she died, like in Titanic rose remember Dawson.
She moved on to marry another man, But also remembering people who were important to Mikasa as long as he lived, Like what Mikasa said in S1, if I'm not mistaken, Mikasa said that I must be alive so that I can remember Eren for the rest of his life. She is happily married to another man but also remembers Eren until Mikasa dies. That's the most important thing than the topic of Mikasa being a virgin or not
Yeah. That was Yaegerbomb. That Nazi subreddit group thankfully got deleted. Sadly Titanfolk is still around.
@BOLDcast Why the manga community didn't like the ending -
1) The romantic love between Mikasa and Eren was one-sided. Eren never seen Mikasa as a lover. so his randomly saying that he wanted to be with Mikasa was inconsistent. Mikasa didn't even come to his mind when 2 times he was about to be eaten by Titans.
2) Yam is bad at writing romance and because of that readers should make special concessions for him is just stupid. I don't know what to say to that. If he is bad at writing he will be judged for bad writing. He was 19 years old when he started AOT shouldn't even be a part of the conversation. Writing should be judged on Writing only.
3) Alliance has large plot armor. Alliance could have been stopped easily if Yagerist blew up the boats by firing thunder spears at them. one of the big plot holes in the story. Throughout the whole fight, Alliance gets huge plot armor.
4) Annie is a cold dead murderer and she should have been treated as such. Why suddenly is everyone friends with her? Annie is also responsible for killing Marco but only Reiner gets flak for that. Annie also killed many survey corp members.
5) Annie has no reason not to eat Eren after 1st Eren vs Annie fight.
6) Why does Yamir need an example of Mikasa leaving Eren so Yamir can leave Fritz? So for the last 2000 years, there wasn't a single Eldian girl who got over her one-sided love? why is Mikasa special here?
Yamir wasn't in love with the king ever. King killed her family and blinded her eye. turned her into a slave. R@ped her. Forced her to have children. Yamir already defiled Fritz's order when she refused to heal herself.
7) why not go 100%. he already gone 80%. More than 20% not that far. Other than that eren already knows that there is no other solution and Titans are getting obsolete. If Eren relied on partial rumbling to scare off the world eventually world would surpass them technologically even more. There is no win for Eldians here. Even then he waited till the king declared war against Eldia. He should have done 100% because that is the only way to make sure. He also should have taken all of the titan powers from shifters. The conflict in the end proves my point. Even pro-Eldian groups hate paradise Eldians.
8) Eren is not a crybaby. Every time he cried because someone close to him died. That's natural. Eren's crying is not the issue. The issue is there is no romantic love towards Mikasa. It is inconsistent that he suddenly says that he wants to spend the rest of his life with Mikasa.
9) Determination means no matter what anyone does everything ends at the same conclusion. Which is false in the AOT story itself. Eren has 2 possible endings. that's not determination.
10) Why Eren can show Armin Lawa and the sea? It is an unexplained power.
11) Why Eren can transform into a colossal titan? At that point, Zeke is dead and Worm is separated from Eren. Doesn't make sense.
12) Why eren is a bird?
13) In Levi's vision, Why Marco is not part of all deceased Survey Corps members? Even when Hange died Marco was not there.
Cool the manga community can cope and seethe till the end of times in their echo chamber hate circlejerk and their delusions because they didn't understand the story. The overwhelming vast majority of anime onlys were ok or loved the ending. All your points make no sense, you literally didn't understand anything about the story or the characters. Maybe when you get older you'll understand, if you are adult already i feel sorry for you.
I’ve been with the series 2013 and I think the series went downhill for when the time memory manipulation stuff happened. Also the fact Eren killed his mom, when I read that in the manga I just didn’t that finish that chapter for a month. To me Carla’s death seemed like a turning point for both Eren and Grisha’s characters. Grisha had finally let go off his hatred for Marley, had a new family and start, but guess what Marley is once again here to destroy his life. So I viewed his massacre of the royal family completely justified because they weren’t doing anything. And for Eren throughout the entire series whenever he doubts himself he thinks of his mother’s death. It is a traumatizing, completely unjustified event, that sadly most innocent people get caught up in. The trauma shaped Eren to be exactly like the people that destroyed his entire life. Asking Reiner why his mom had to die is completely fucking invalid because he killed her himself.
The time memory stuff destroyed 2 of my favorite characters. Both Grisha and Eren were unremarkable children who by cruel circumstances of their world got turned into the exact people that hurt them. At least that’s how I viewed the story before. It genuinely a terrifying concept that is too real for me something completely out of your control can just change and destroy your whole life. But timey wimey bullshit had to be involved to the point that it just made things ridiculous.
Basically I loved Eren and Grisha’s characters so much more before the time memory manipulation. The time memory manipulation in my eyes made Grisha almost innocent and he can’t make decisions for himself. And for Eren he literally killed everyone that was related to him, his parents, brother, grandparents and even his dad’s previous wife.
series went uphill when that happened. free will still exists in AOT, but the timeline is deterministic.
Eren killed his mother to give himself the motivation.
People who think aot ending was good 🤡🤡🤡
22:12 FUUCK!!! FINALLY. I've been saying this but you're the only one on UA-cam that seems to get that part.
Not true many reactors got it in right way, eventually many fans did liked it,
@@KamleshPatel-md5kvOh okay my bad then. I've come across a lot of people complaining about that scene only
Watch arcaneeeee!
I don’t think you addressed any of the legitimate criticisms of the ending being a totally rushed asspull by Isayama. Just argued against low hanging fruit bad takes and straw men about the ending instead.
How is it a rushed asspull when he said that this is the ending he had envisioned from the beginning and as much as he would have liked to change it, he felt it would have been a betrayal of the story if he did.
@@KeangoDLuke It's hard not to be sceptical of that statement when he also said he wanted to do a Mist ending, that he got inspired by Guardians of the Galaxy, and shared that one finale panel that in the end amounted to nothing.
52:50 She shpittin.
nah i aint buying it. in the manga, eren has full control of the founding titan and could have easily taken away the alliances ability to transform. Eren said "if someone takes away my freedom, I won't hesitate to take theirs". He could easily stop them from transforming and he could have wiped the world and saved paradise. The whole I see everything and its already happened is a cop out because he didnt do what he could have done. Even with the character assassination during the rumbling arc, the idea of AOT ending being good is ridiculous. I kill 80% of the world so my friends can live long lives? How is that good writing? Isayama fumbled because he wanted to please the aot fanboys. AOT was a masterpiece until the rumbling arc.
He specifically says he won’t take away freedom from his friends. Did you just miss that part?
Conveniently forgetting that he told the people he cares about most in the world that he "Would not take away their freedom to stop him" sure makes your argument kind of seem reasonable. Thing is that would require deliberately ignoring all of the text that already exists in the story that supports anything that isn't what you have already decided is your conclusion, deliberately ignoring anything else just to avoid having to reconsider or rethink your opinion.
Calling them "The Aliance" sure is a good way of helping yourself forget the people he cares about the most in the world, who are also a part of the reason he is even doing what he is doing, comprise half of the alliance you are talking about.
It's fine to dislike something but at least try and be reasonable with why you dislike it. Consider everything you've seen before making a full judgement, because in this case you are kind of ignoring a big chunk of it.
Maybe you'll still dislike it, but then at least people will be able to take your opinion more seriously.
@IamnotracistlmaoWhat is considered a masterpiece for you?
@@mustofaakmal7493nigga shut up with that lame rebuttal
Bro read Defend on Dwarfs 😂
*worse
Code Geass but worse.
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Similarity =/= copy. Plus AOT is better than CG, in my opinion. The ending of CG saved it for me. I love the ending more than the show itself.
Code Geass ending carried the show. The show itself isn't consistent quality wise. Oh god the cat episode
@@dineongoepe7857 story development is much better, but the shows money shot aka final is awful kills the show, kills the meaning of everything. Code geass story was weak but its final saved the show, in this case shows final destroyed the show. People might say final doesnt mean anything but that concludes the show after all, it has to be good, u cant just end it this miserably and say w/e i nailed the story development and throw it all to the thrash at the end.
The cat episode was HUGE episode for Lelouch and Suzaku, but I know what you’re saying for sure
Without the ending, CG isn’t nearly as good as people remember. R1 is great, R2 was rocky and saved by the ending
For real, Eren is the one who always called himself idiot, pathetic, someone unable to do anything, having doubts about himself, begging Historia to even kill him.
That's the real Eren, the one crying with Armin about his feelings for Mikasa, not the fake Gigachad of S4...