agreed 5e really just cut so much from everything, i would also suggest maybe looking into pathfinder for certain lists or videos given they have a fairly good list of monsters and lore some of which surpass even if some are more or less copy paste from their dnd versions while others have been improved
I was going to say the same thing, this is giving me some awesome ideas for my current campaign. I'll have to look some of them up and try to balance them for 5e but i'm super stoked to use these guys. Thanks Esper! Not only do you help me sleep at night, you give me great ideas!
@@esperthebard When you talked about Arasta and Lolth's lengendary actions, it reminded me of this homebrew monster I made up called the Ettercap Mage, it's really more like an Ettercap with double the health, some Druid spellcasting and a few legendary actions to summon spider swarms. I made it a CR 5 creature but it can speak druidic.
We knew Lolth, sure, but... I was so curious if anything else would be on S-tier with her?! And she answered and went godsmack on me, and said: "I... stand alone." When it comes to ANY DnD content and the best... Esper also stands alone!
@@royjaskowski905 problem is no edition would be allowed to publish Ungoliant as an option because of the Tolkien estate which is why halflings are not called hobbits
So with the Spider Tier List we can predict some new videos: Insect Tier List Snake Tier List Carnivora Tier List (covers Cats, Dogs, and other sub-tiers lists) Winged Tier List (covers Bird and Bats sub-tiers as well as other winged animals)
Yay! New tier list! I like how you included older edition monsters. I miss th' monsters from 3.5 too. Ettercaps used to be able to speak in older editions.
I was happy to include older editions monsters in there. 3.5 was awesome for sure, though in looking through those entries I realized how much I do not miss how clunky they were to implement. While the 3.5 stat blocks did become more user-friendly over time, they still have you jumping backing and forth between sections, trying to remember feats on every monster, and many features have lengthy inefficient wordings. 4e has sort of the opposite problem, with things being too streamlined and simplified. 5e strikes a great balance between the two, which is one of its strengths.
@@esperthebard Do you have 'Creature Codex' or 'Tome of Beasts books'? What Is the Most Evil Demon and Demon Lord in D&D?(Kobold Press edition) sounds kinda nice.
@Dahaka 4444 My local gaming group and I have actually had them for years, though I haven't made any videos that discuss them. Largely this is because I'm not quite sure how to approach the topic. My overall thoughts on the Kobold Press bestiaries are "These books have some interesting monster concepts, but I'm shocked and sometimes slightly put off by their lack of grasp on 5e monster creation. The balance is all over the place, and the wordings are inconsistent." So, I like some aspects, but other aspects are almost unusable.
22:17 that's the image from "The Isle of Dread" classic adventure, and that's the one I always think of when someone mentions Aranea. I also seem to remember that in Basic it had a body the size of a pony, not just human size, and the were able to cast spells as a 3rd level Magic-User (think Wizard for 5e or AD&D). I like them because they are just intelligent spiders, no human faces or humanoid parts on them, just smart spiders, and that is scarier than anything else.
21:13 Well, the sages might be wrong about the bebeliths being older than the other demons; alternately, maybe the bebeliths are the reason that demons have fire and poison immunities (survival of the fittest).
Ah I just found it now. I had overlooked it because it's named "sword spider" (which I believe is actually the traditional name for this creature). In fact, I even got its image into the video. Here's my rating for it: Fantastic illustration, effective features though nothing particularly unique or exciting, a good amount of lore but nothing very original or inspiring. Mechanics: 2 Style: 4 Roleplaying: 1 Lore: 2 Versatility: 2 Total: 11 (mid D Tier)
@@esperthebard would be really cool if they added some battle master maneuvers or a parry . Nothing like fighting what you believed was just a big dumb brute only to realize that they have a near human intelligence, and nest near the training grounds of drow military academies. There they watch and study the drow duelist techniques. These changes Could easily bump the lore and mechanics up a notch and bring it into a mid or even high C tier .
@@indiana47 yeah I have that book too. It’s great for Druids as it gives some new options where there weren’t many before . I also use the tpk beastiary that can make powerful legendary versions of any beast or beast like monster , increasing there cr by 9
I used the Dhampir race and reflavoured it for a spider-like character The thirst was him just drinking creatures innards He was a rogue/fighter multiclass that just climbed everywhere
I always liked the idea that demons are resistant to fire and poison as adaptations to help stop predation by bebiliths. For ettercaps, there was an article in Dragon Magazine #343 that vastly expanded their lore as corrupted druids and gave more statblocks.
The "Lhosk" seems like someone started with wanting to make a pun monster based on a _spider monkey_ and kept iterating on it until it changed from a silly joke monster based on wordplay to unironically cool.
This old timer really liked how you mentioned the intelligent spiders from The Isle of Dread. There was a also proto ettercap/chitine: Dragon Magazine had a one off adventure called The Temple of the Chagmat. I thought it was so good that I ran it in 2e and even redesigned it for 5e.
I like you using other editions for this list. I don’t know if this is the first time you’ve done this for a tier list, but I hope you do this for all future lists. 😁 Keep up the awesome work
@@esperthebard Glad to hear I’m not the only one! It’d be nice to hear some revised lists that include creatures from past editions. Not to say I’d prefer that over new stuff, just food for thought. 😄
I was playing Baldur's Gate 1 yesterday for the first time. Came across a spider nest where an NPC named Centeol lived. Centeol is a powerless, ugly, morbidly bloated woman who relies on spiders to feed her and keep her alive. She was once a beautiful sorceress, who lusted over only one man, but that man was in love with his wife. So Centeol plotted, had his wife killed, and attempted to get him for herself. But the man learned that she killed his wife, so he cursed Centeol , and trapped her in the body she is in now. She has since lost her mind, and after you defeat the spiders, she begs for a mercy killing.
The nice thing about Lolth is that sure, she's ultimately an evil creature, but she's also intelligent enough that depending on the campaign you could also have her as an ally. It could make a very interesting role playing scenario where a mostly good aligned party would have to ally with Lolth to defeat a common enemy, starting with a reason as to why would such a thing happen. Also having a powerful evil creature temp the players to align with her after all is done could lead to nice role playing scenarios.
I really enjoyed the additional of third and fourth edition entries. The tomb spider really got me thinking of developing a whole Egyptian, Mayan society with these creatures acting as a sort of sacred beast while lolth worshippers nurture them and Revere the spider husks the creat. Sort of the proto version of the more modern drow.
1:55 Interesting point of view here, a Giant Spider coming for a winged horse. You can't help but feel bad for him. He is completely out matched. It is a completely unfair encounter. For the spider. Because you would have to remember, while in modern interpretations a winged horse just has normal horse stats with human intelligence plus can fly, the original ancestor of all winged horses, Pegasus, was a demi god.
Did anybody else start laughing a bit too hard when they realized the Lhosk is a spider monkey? On another note, I want all of these ranking videos to include older additions, now. My group doesn't play 5E anymore, but the lore and mechanics of older additions can be so intriguing and inspiring. I feel like modern DnD just couldn't do a spider-gorilla hybrid justice. Between the Lhosk and the web golem, I've got some statblocks to homebrew. Gratitude to the bard, as always.
you just know there is a market for cave fisher blood, the underdark wine, i can only expect a noble paying through the eye to have that, just for the novelty and difficulty to get it, and because not many nobles thought of it. " oh so you don't have cave fisher wine, how unfortunate, dear baron, after all is a rare delicacy. from the under dark no less, costed me a good amount of coin, especially if you add the expedition to aquire treasures and rare materials, wainting in that, most dreafull of places."
A few cool ones from earlier editions. Planar Spider (mystara) intelligent phase spiders. Head Hunter (ravenloft) their razor sharp webs sever limbs and they wear victims heads. Red Widow (ravenloft) they assune human form to lure in prey. Mishka the Wolf Spider: demon lord
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Lolth is a great villain and a major element in a lot of DnD lore. I feel like the discussion of her is incomplete without mentioning Eilistraee and Vhaeraun or that she and Corellion were once an item. The divine family drama at play here opens a lot of avenues for roleplay and exploration. I can't believe Lolth was ever considered a "lesser goddess." Wow, have things changed.
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31:36, it's pronounced 'Salvator', yes the 'he's at the end is silent. I know this because I meet him and he has a site call 'Salva-store', a pun that wouldn't work if the 'e' in Salvatore wasn't silent.
I forget where I heard the idea from. But it took a Drow you faced and brought them back as a Dryder(mini Boss). This was because while on their trial from Lolth, your party came along and defeated them. This gave them an extra intensive to kill the party.
maybe for roleplaying options if you really want spiders to be important in your campaign, give one of the players a custom wearable item that gives it the ability to speak with specifically spiders either as long as they wear it, or a set time per day. This can give even boring spiders a chance to stand out as they chatter amongst each other and about the party. Similar like in the hobbit to when bilbo put on the ring in murkwood and could understand the giant spiders. it gives spiders personality and gives a good roleplay chance for the dm and players, and gives the players a chance to deal with the spiders more creatively other then just kill them on sight.
I’d make it so phase spiders travel in packs, maybe eight to nine in a group. Then they could stalk your players and mess with them by quickly appearing and disappearing just in their peripheral, or even appearing suddenly in front of them, only to vanish just as quick. It gives them some RP value and makes for a creepy encounter out of an otherwise unremarkable creature.
a spider just being a spider and not something special, while not technically roleplay, will have for many people higher fear, resulting in a more viceral roleplay then for example just the numbers and theoretical fear of a dragon its a real irrational fear people have that they cant deny and if you have a few or even one of those people on the table, if they are able to play with it, i know some who cant, can lead to some very real emergent, not just gameplay but roleplay honestly its kinda weird spiders dont have a will saved terror aura
The children of time series really made me love spiders. Where I am currently staying it is their breeding season, you can see they're such good mothers, they're carrying these big egg sacs while their actual abdomens are very small which means they've basically been prioritizing caring for their little babies over finding food. I like to have a playable race of full-blown sentient spiders in my world that trade with other civilizations and have beautiful glistening web architecture
15:26 Honestly I think the blackspawn stalker has some real horror potential, and perhaps showing a more horrific side to the Cult of Tiamat other than the usual "dragons×10" stuff.
Eddercap lore is kinda fun, Not sure if it was you but there was one about Eddercaps being Druids that went to far in the way of the Spider and became Eddercaps
Excellent list! Really works my arachnophobia! I will say, though, I wish that the Red Widow from Ravenloft made it to the list. She always struck particular fear in me: A spider that disguises itself as a beautiful red haired woman that seduces men so that she can copulate with them to fertilize her eggs, then at his "release" shift into her spider form to devour her lover. A truly horrific monster!
Re: Aranae "They're typically neutral aligned" he says while showing the Isle of Dread stat block at 22:28 that labels them as "Chaotic". Also, yes they "keep to themselves" in the sense that they don't hang out with other species, but they are definitely social with each other.
Improved fey spider. It’s a small spider that can mimic voices and sounds like a mocking jay. These voices emit thru the ethereal. A false haunting is what i call it a house infested with these is the perfect surprise twist to a ghost busting mission. They mimic screams also they can knock over objects as they appear and dissapear acting like a poltergeist
On the Drow and their related monsters, I always thought that the transformation into a Drider being a punishment never made any sense. Looking at it, it’s purely an upgrade to be turned into one of those things. I would instead replace their position with the Chitine and Choldrith, which actually make sense as a cursed punishment. On the Drider, give them the ability to transform into fully humanoid drow, as well as into full giant spiders. Basically, they’d be Lolth’s take on lycanthropy. Only female Drow would be turned into them, and it would be said in lore that it was a gift. for marrying Lolth, who would have many Drider wives. All Matron Mothers would be one of these, as well as certain high ranking priestesses. That’s how I would do Drow society.
Oh, one more thing. The Drow Matron Mother’s Fickle Favor ability needs a rework. At present, it actually helps the party more than the enemies. It should really last a minute, and the damage it deals shouldn’t be automatic, but rather be something that triggers and ends the advantage effect if the drow it is used on misses an attack or fails an ability check or saving throw while it is in effect. That would make it much more dynamic and more interesting for parties to play against. On the Driders, you could even add a lot more variety to them by having there be different types based on different types of spiders, each of which have their own unique abilities and hunting strategies.
I just watched the mimic video, and now am watching this. I REALLY love you giving attention to previous edition gems. I legit might buy a book just to get the 4e stats for the tower core and a few things here
This tier list is amazing, but I will vouch for the low-ranking unaligned predators. Lack of sapience isn't parallel to a lack of sentience, and there are a lot of non-combat based, even rewarding interactions you can have with something as unique as the humble spider.
Maybe demons are resistant to fire and poison because of Bebiliths, developing a natural defense against their predators, and the Bebilith have yet to develop new hunting techniques.
I just want to give a shout-out to the Fang of Lloth prestige class from Song and Silence (3.0) Basically, it turns the character into a half-spider while giving some rogue progression.
What about the Cildabrin? Technically it's a giant scorpion but scorpions and spiders are both arachnids. There's also the Chwidencha a giant spider that has 12 legs and can grapple you with them.
I used spider monsters in a random encounter that seriously unnerved my players. Two ettercaps with web garrotes inside of a disguised trapdoor. Beneath the trapdoor is a vertical tunnel lined with webs, at the bottom of which is a choldrith. One of the PCs was standing watch in the desert at night, failed a perception check, and got dragged into the trap door. The players were immediately agitated, because everyone but the sentry was asleep. So they had to make perception checks with disadvantage to see if they heard him get grabbed. Then once they woke up, they had to make more perception checks to locate the trap door. All while the sentry is being strangled and making constitution checks to stay conscious. Eventually one of the PCs located the trap door and threw it open, leading to a battle to was on a vertical plane instead of a horizontal one. Once everyone was conscious and working together, the battle went pretty quick (especially when someone cast Wall of Water at the bottom of the tunnel). But the panic I inspired in my players is something I cherish to this day.
Excuse me Esper but what is the pic at 1:42 of the Giant Spider coming out of a mountain reading a book to the wild life critters from? Mtg? D&D? But also love your monster rankings hope to see more in the future 👍
Hey Esper, as soon as I seen the thumbnail I knew I had a spider for you, lol. "I am the Spider!" Please let me know what you think if and when you have the time 😊. My conversion below. Quest for the Silver Sword (BECMI). White Widow Spider: use giant spider upper stat block. ACTION. Bite. Melee Weapon Attack: +5 to hit, reach 5 ft., one creature. Hit: 7 (1d8 +3) piercing damage, and the target must make a DC 11 Constitution saving throw against cryotoxin or be instantly frozen, indefinitely. The target appears dead to all outward inspection. Only magic will reveal that the target is still alive, a lesser restoration spell will end the Effect on the target. Web (Recharge 5-6). The white widow spider can spray her web upto 60 ft. away, filling a 20 ft. square, webbing doesn't require an anchor between two solid masses (such as walls or trees). The white widow's webbing is not used to trap prey, it instead whistles or hums in the wind. The webbing plays magical harp music. The white widow's webbing appears as sparkling strings of ice or jets of water frozen in midair. As an action a creature can make a DC 14 Strength check, bursting the webbing on a success. The webbing can also be attacked and destroyed (AC 12; hp 5; vulnerability to bludgeoning; immunity to cold, poison, and psychic damage). Whistling Web. Every Humanoid and Giant within 30 ft. of the web that can hear the music must succeed on a DC 13 Wisdom saving throw or be Charmed until the music ends. The music ends if the web is destroyed. While Charmed by the music, a target is Incapacitated. If the Charmed target is more than 5 ft. away from the web, they must move on its turn toward the web by the most direct route. It doesn't avoid Opportunity Attacks, but before moving into damaging terrain, such as lava or a pit, and whenever it takes damage from a source other than the White Widow Spider, a target can repeat the saving throw. A creature can also repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns. If a creature's saving throw is successful, the Effect ends on it. A target that successfully saves is immune to this web's whistling music for the next 24 hours. Thanks for the video you have a wonderful day!
Note on Volo's Guide: If you try looking these up in D&DBeyond, you'll see it registered as Mordenkainen's Monsters of the Multiverse. Reason being they're fundamentally the same book, which is why you can't get digital copies of Volo's or a hard copy of Mordenkainen's. The only difference, and I do mean only, is that Mordenkainen's features Aberrations in remarkable detail- so unless you're running Out of the Abyss or Descent into Avernus, the hard copy would suffice. Of course I learned this after buying both.
Not "fundamentally the same book", but because entries of Volo's Guide to Monsters and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes (an amazing book with plenty of really spellcasting monsters and lore that WOTC killed off) were stripped and crammed into Mordekainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse.
If you look into even older editions, then BECMI has some really cool options. The deity Korotiku is a spider trickster and philosopher as well as shapeshifter who makes a great patron for a good aligned character who likes spiders. The Aranea have a truly amazing civilization in the Kingdom of Herath deepening their lore significantly and resulting in many cool NPCs who get story appearances in the Voyages of the Princess Ark. Aranea in BECMI have three terrifying variations, the mages of Herath have the ability to become invisible and gain innate magical powers called legacies from a curse they unleashed on their neighbors. The Arasheem is an undead Aranea that was powerful enough to "survive" failing the attempt to become a lich, and still retains at least 12-level wizard capabilities on top of all the normal Aranea powers. The Yeshom is a successful Aranea Lich which has become a black ooze spider of pure evil and is ridiculously powerful magically, they have all the abilities of a lich a black pudding an aranea and an 18th level wizard plus a wide selection of special powers from the red curse with none of the drawbacks other lesser entities suffer. In BECMI, Aranea and their kingdom of Herath are absolutely terrifying. The Neh-Thalgu or Brain Collector is a BECMI original that appeared in many other editions and is a denizen of the dimension of nightmares that steals brains and then can use all the memories and abilities of all the brains it has stolen and embedded into its abdomen (dimensions are not merely planes, each dimension is a complete multiverse itself with copies of all planes in the main multiverse, so the dimension of nightmares has a parallel abyss, celestia, aethereal sea, etc.). The Planar Spiders of BECMI are intelligent spellcasting merchants. Shroud spiders are the apex spiders among BECMI's beasts, with glowing eyes, immunity to non-magic weapons, and webs that aren't sticky but instead have a paralytic venom coating them. Sand spiders are the trapdoor variant 5e is missing. The Rhagodessa is a 10-legged spider with suction cups on the extra limbs instead of webs. The crab spider color shifts like a chameleon, and the tarantella has a poison that makes you dance until you die of exhaustion. Even the basic huge wood spider is a little cooler in BECMI as they are most often encountered as the trained mounts of Wood Imps who are fey that lost their immortality and magic and live among the spiders as petty tyrants and bandits.
Wait a minute, hold up, roll back the cart. You're telling me that you're just gonna stand there hold up the torch while me and the rest of the guys are gonna go down in this dark dungeon. Completely covered in spirit webb's probably a temple of Lolth or what ever eight legged unholy creatures? Yes. Ok i see how it is but remember our partys name Orkin! And if we make it out alive we are charging you a hazardous fee.
12:29 ohhh look at the Shrike of Hyperion's Cantos ....sooooo creepy ;=0 23:46 "tomb spider" , Lara Croft next reincarnation ? I just got blessed by the Esper''s inspiring touch : what about a giant tique sucking its victimes into horror ? I called it the "Tique-à-sosie": when the tique fills its big grey-beige belly w/ the life of its victime , the belly cracks, hatches and releases a doppelganger perfect image of the victime which will go back to its people in order to betray them and drive them into the den of the Tique for its next meal and new recruitment of a minion...
Their is just nobody who does as great rankings as you do! I love that you look at so many diffrent things and like you sad it is a roleplaying game. I get your rating for the wolf spider but it is actually much better in my opinion not because it is earning more then you rated it but because it is one of the cooler and better animal companions a ranger can get which makes it pretty useful as a creature. The next character I want to make is a beastmaster goblin using the wolfspider and writing into battle on it^^.
PS: the same of course goes for the normal spider because it can be a familiar so it can be a very useful creature with tons of personalty but that of course is what we make of it as players and dm's and not the statblock itself.
My older sister is well versed in Lolth because her first character was a half-drow, so she might be able to help me set something up for a close encounter with Lolth. Also, the Lloskh (sorry if misspelled) reads the literal appearance of a spider-monkey
I once ran a ranger that had ptsd from a spider attack when he was a boy, which manifested as his Favored Foe. His Arachnophobia literally gave him strength lmfao
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There are also the Chwidencha which are grotesque masses of spidery legs and come into existence when a less powerful drow is tested by Lolth and fails.
I would like to point out that this video is of great help to me, as giant venomous spiders are on my list of favorite foods. I would like to point that out, but I will not. Experience has taught me that is a guaranteed way to get mistaken for a human.
@@esperthebard You have a very good way of thinking. Indeed, sometimes you need to make sure to have some reserves. I do in fact have a recipe. Their chitin shell, their silk, sheep wool and goat horns offered by peasants in the form of taxes, and a little bit of sea shell, sealed in acid in a jar. This protein slush is primarily used to get damaged scales to grow back faster after battle.
I'd argue that a giant wolf spider is a really great alternative to Goblins. Goblins are such a joke nowadays that they're usually just easy xp... But a giant-ish spider scuttling out of the floor like a trapdoor spider and grabbing the Druid's leg? Oho, that'll keep things fresh when your players get bored
Shoot from hiding, then hide again as a bonus action using Nimble Escape. If you are approached by an enemy, slash'em with your scimitar and disengage as a bonus action using Nimble Escape. That's the typical modus operandi for the goblin. Easy XP, eh?
I'd love to see more dnd spider tier list. Dnd Spider Lore and the characters have a special place in my heart. With my very first character being an arachne (half humanoid, half spider).
Esper, I just realized you actually forgot one. There’s also the Asteroid Spider. It was one of the monsters released in the Monstrous Compendium Volume One: Spelljammer Creatures. I don’t know if you have D&D Beyond, as that’s the only place it was available.
Fun idea I like to use. Goblins and giant wolf spiders etc don't have to be weak or boring. If you want to spice them up a bit I love to mount goblins on worlf spiders. Then then mounted goblins can ride the spiders onto the ceiling of the cave or whatever you're fighting in, one of melee reach, and will have a reasonable excuse for all their weapons to be poisoned with giant wolf spider venom. Takes an otherwise bland encounter and somewhat ljterally flips it on it's head (cause the ceiling goblins will be upsidedown).
There's a bit of speculative lore around the Ettercaps that they might be originally druids from long long ago who worshipped spiders and eventually lost any semblance of their original humanity and civilization in their pious worship, becoming lesser monsters. That story alone really bumps Ettercaps into the A-tier for me, just coz of how cool that story has proven to be in practice with my games, especially when dealing with druid players :)
For my own OSR game using the Hyperborea system I created two kinds of giant jumping spiders, the first are German Shepherd sized, can leap 90 feet, have a paralytic venom, and a reat chance at surprising, the second are worse yet, these are either long-jawed or greater and have all the first did, but higher damage dice, more hit-dice, and even can take player lvls and be spell casters. My party was rather surprised when they found out that they had to deal with one that was a Priest and further surprised when another that was an Illusionist that knew Invisibility.
I agree with your point on Phase spiders. They need more intelligence to make better use if their abilities. I need to point out something that is often missed about Lloth and that is her origin points towards her being God Cursed. She is quite literally one of the VERY few who were personally cursed by a Greater God. One who is considered only second in power on Torill & the D&D universe.
I wish I'd known about Arasta's art before my players had reached our Big Boss fight. It was a magic spider that had infected the God of Dreams. Arasta's art is way more fitting than Sheoldred's. This was a fun video. Full of neat monsters I'd never heard of and not too rambly about each one.
Now I understand WHY you put the giant wolf spider at F rank but hear me out! It’s CR 1/4 and a medium creature. That means it can be a beastmaster companion and a mount for small player characters. With spells like beast bond you could send your companion forward to stalk the target with that expertise stealth that will grow stronger as you do. And I was amused that you called it the “goblin of spiders” because one of my unused characters IS a goblin beastmaster with a giant wolf spider.
Lhosk: Change the back 4 legs to gorilla legs, give them two more sets of gorilla arms up front. Multiattack, slam and spear stab with vaulting slam as a bonus action if both connect.
I'm a big fan of the idea of including monsters from older editions in these rankings!
I'm glad you liked that, I might have to do more of it in future videos 🕷
agreed 5e really just cut so much from everything, i would also suggest maybe looking into pathfinder for certain lists or videos given they have a fairly good list of monsters and lore some of which surpass even if some are more or less copy paste from their dnd versions while others have been improved
I am as well. Esper introduced me to some interesting monster of 3.5e that I want to bring into 5e...tomb spider
I was going to say the same thing, this is giving me some awesome ideas for my current campaign. I'll have to look some of them up and try to balance them for 5e but i'm super stoked to use these guys. Thanks Esper! Not only do you help me sleep at night, you give me great ideas!
@@esperthebard When you talked about Arasta and Lolth's lengendary actions, it reminded me of this homebrew monster I made up called the Ettercap Mage, it's really more like an Ettercap with double the health, some Druid spellcasting and a few legendary actions to summon spider swarms. I made it a CR 5 creature but it can speak druidic.
We knew Lolth, sure, but... I was so curious if anything else would be on S-tier with her?!
And she answered and went godsmack on me, and said: "I... stand alone."
When it comes to ANY DnD content and the best... Esper also stands alone!
I don't think Mishka was ever stated but I know but Chris Perkins use the rod as part of his liveplay Storm Kings Thuder
@@ChurchillGeoff Do you mean Miska the Wolf Spider in "The Rod of 7 Parts"?
Ungoliant, top tier (or higher).
@@royjaskowski905 problem is no edition would be allowed to publish Ungoliant as an option because of the Tolkien estate which is why halflings are not called hobbits
@@royjaskowski905 Yeah, but that's Tolkien lore, not DnD, and her abilities are brief in The Silmarillion.
I'm surprised DnD doesn't have a Jorogumo monster.
A spider succubus, would be interesting.
You have my attention🧐🧐
That's where the Yochlol come from. They were originally Succubi who got transformed by Lolth.
I'd get the *S U C C* from spidey-ho.
I believe Pathfinder does
You just want spussy or spideussy? that’s all you want I will bonk you
So with the Spider Tier List we can predict some new videos:
Insect Tier List
Snake Tier List
Carnivora Tier List (covers Cats, Dogs, and other sub-tiers lists)
Winged Tier List (covers Bird and Bats sub-tiers as well as other winged animals)
That would be interesting perhaps a part three on monstrosities or aberrations
Yay! New tier list! I like how you included older edition monsters. I miss th' monsters from 3.5 too. Ettercaps used to be able to speak in older editions.
I was happy to include older editions monsters in there. 3.5 was awesome for sure, though in looking through those entries I realized how much I do not miss how clunky they were to implement. While the 3.5 stat blocks did become more user-friendly over time, they still have you jumping backing and forth between sections, trying to remember feats on every monster, and many features have lengthy inefficient wordings. 4e has sort of the opposite problem, with things being too streamlined and simplified. 5e strikes a great balance between the two, which is one of its strengths.
@@esperthebard yes, 3.5 was complicated, but I still miss th' variety and amount of customization options.
@@esperthebard Do you have 'Creature Codex' or 'Tome of Beasts books'?
What Is the Most Evil Demon and Demon Lord in D&D?(Kobold Press edition)
sounds kinda nice.
@Dahaka 4444 My local gaming group and I have actually had them for years, though I haven't made any videos that discuss them. Largely this is because I'm not quite sure how to approach the topic. My overall thoughts on the Kobold Press bestiaries are "These books have some interesting monster concepts, but I'm shocked and sometimes slightly put off by their lack of grasp on 5e monster creation. The balance is all over the place, and the wordings are inconsistent." So, I like some aspects, but other aspects are almost unusable.
22:17 that's the image from "The Isle of Dread" classic adventure, and that's the one I always think of when someone mentions Aranea. I also seem to remember that in Basic it had a body the size of a pony, not just human size, and the were able to cast spells as a 3rd level Magic-User (think Wizard for 5e or AD&D). I like them because they are just intelligent spiders, no human faces or humanoid parts on them, just smart spiders, and that is scarier than anything else.
21:13 Well, the sages might be wrong about the bebeliths being older than the other demons; alternately, maybe the bebeliths are the reason that demons have fire and poison immunities (survival of the fittest).
I tried to squish a spider before going to bed, and this is the first thing I see upon waking up. That's not concerning at all LMAO.
🕷we are watching you ...
Hey esper, the blade spider actually has a official 5e statblock printed in minsc and boos mini book/pamphlet thingy that they made .
Ah I just found it now. I had overlooked it because it's named "sword spider" (which I believe is actually the traditional name for this creature). In fact, I even got its image into the video. Here's my rating for it:
Fantastic illustration, effective features though nothing particularly unique or exciting, a good amount of lore but nothing very original or inspiring.
Mechanics: 2
Style: 4
Roleplaying: 1
Lore: 2
Versatility: 2
Total: 11 (mid D Tier)
@@esperthebard would be really cool if they added some battle master maneuvers or a parry . Nothing like fighting what you believed was just a big dumb brute only to realize that they have a near human intelligence, and nest near the training grounds of drow military academies. There they watch and study the drow duelist techniques. These changes Could easily bump the lore and mechanics up a notch and bring it into a mid or even high C tier .
I got the monster manual expanded and it has a CR 5 sword spider which is great since it is good for a high level moon druid.
@@indiana47 yeah I have that book too. It’s great for Druids as it gives some new options where there weren’t many before . I also use the tpk beastiary that can make powerful legendary versions of any beast or beast like monster , increasing there cr by 9
I used the Dhampir race and reflavoured it for a spider-like character
The thirst was him just drinking creatures innards
He was a rogue/fighter multiclass that just climbed everywhere
I always liked the idea that demons are resistant to fire and poison as adaptations to help stop predation by bebiliths.
For ettercaps, there was an article in Dragon Magazine #343 that vastly expanded their lore as corrupted druids and gave more statblocks.
The "Lhosk" seems like someone started with wanting to make a pun monster based on a _spider monkey_ and kept iterating on it until it changed from a silly joke monster based on wordplay to unironically cool.
This old timer really liked how you mentioned the intelligent spiders from The Isle of Dread. There was a also proto ettercap/chitine: Dragon Magazine had a one off adventure called The Temple of the Chagmat. I thought it was so good that I ran it in 2e and even redesigned it for 5e.
I like you using other editions for this list. I don’t know if this is the first time you’ve done this for a tier list, but I hope you do this for all future lists. 😁 Keep up the awesome work
That's great to hear! A couple others have also left similar comments, so I'm feeling even more interested now.
@@esperthebard Glad to hear I’m not the only one! It’d be nice to hear some revised lists that include creatures from past editions. Not to say I’d prefer that over new stuff, just food for thought. 😄
I was playing Baldur's Gate 1 yesterday for the first time. Came across a spider nest where an NPC named Centeol lived. Centeol is a powerless, ugly, morbidly bloated woman who relies on spiders to feed her and keep her alive. She was once a beautiful sorceress, who lusted over only one man, but that man was in love with his wife. So Centeol plotted, had his wife killed, and attempted to get him for herself. But the man learned that she killed his wife, so he cursed Centeol , and trapped her in the body she is in now. She has since lost her mind, and after you defeat the spiders, she begs for a mercy killing.
The nice thing about Lolth is that sure, she's ultimately an evil creature, but she's also intelligent enough that depending on the campaign you could also have her as an ally.
It could make a very interesting role playing scenario where a mostly good aligned party would have to ally with Lolth to defeat a common enemy, starting with a reason as to why would such a thing happen. Also having a powerful evil creature temp the players to align with her after all is done could lead to nice role playing scenarios.
I really enjoyed the additional of third and fourth edition entries. The tomb spider really got me thinking of developing a whole Egyptian, Mayan society with these creatures acting as a sort of sacred beast while lolth worshippers nurture them and Revere the spider husks the creat. Sort of the proto version of the more modern drow.
As an arachnophobe, I hate that you made this list, but as a Fantasy TTRPG enthusiast, I understand why you made this and appreciate it.
1:55 Interesting point of view here, a Giant Spider coming for a winged horse. You can't help but feel bad for him. He is completely out matched. It is a completely unfair encounter.
For the spider.
Because you would have to remember, while in modern interpretations a winged horse just has normal horse stats with human intelligence plus can fly, the original ancestor of all winged horses, Pegasus, was a demi god.
Just backed the Kickstarter. Esper’s Emporium of Esoterica was great so I’m excited to see what you’ve come up with here.
Thank you! Glad you liked EEE so much, this new one will be full of great features to sink your teeth into for a long time to come!
your kickstarter is so cool!!
Thanks Jarbies!
Welp, this is gonna be a big trigger for my arachnophobia. I might not make it all the way through, but I'll give it an honest try at least.
Wooooooot! I always love settling to bed and see there's a new tier list. Absolutely wonderful E man!
I LOVE your tier lists Esper. Unironically some of the most inspirational videos that I've ever seen for DMing.
Well that is awesome to read, thanks so much!
Did anybody else start laughing a bit too hard when they realized the Lhosk is a spider monkey?
On another note, I want all of these ranking videos to include older additions, now. My group doesn't play 5E anymore, but the lore and mechanics of older additions can be so intriguing and inspiring. I feel like modern DnD just couldn't do a spider-gorilla hybrid justice. Between the Lhosk and the web golem, I've got some statblocks to homebrew. Gratitude to the bard, as always.
you just know there is a market for cave fisher blood, the underdark wine, i can only expect a noble paying through the eye to have that, just for the novelty and difficulty to get it, and because not many nobles thought of it.
" oh so you don't have cave fisher wine, how unfortunate, dear baron, after all is a rare delicacy. from the under dark no less, costed me a good amount of coin, especially if you add the expedition to aquire treasures and rare materials, wainting in that, most dreafull of places."
A few cool ones from earlier editions.
Planar Spider (mystara) intelligent phase spiders.
Head Hunter (ravenloft) their razor sharp webs sever limbs and they wear victims heads.
Red Widow (ravenloft) they assune human form to lure in prey.
Mishka the Wolf Spider: demon lord
What a beautiful distraction from the world. I appreciate you.
Esper, you are an awesome narrator, love just kickin' back and learning more about D&D.
Please back Esper's Kickstarter! It's a great addition to any table. Useful for both players and DMs!
I have backed, but my UA-cam account email is different from my KS account. Just in case that skews your numbers. I'm really looking forward to the new book!
Lolth is a great villain and a major element in a lot of DnD lore. I feel like the discussion of her is incomplete without mentioning Eilistraee and Vhaeraun or that she and Corellion were once an item. The divine family drama at play here opens a lot of avenues for roleplay and exploration.
I can't believe Lolth was ever considered a "lesser goddess." Wow, have things changed.
It's always unfortunate to learn about a really dope kickstarter after its ended. Will there be a way to purchase Monstrous Heroes after it's been released to the backers?
The preorder site through Backerkit will be up within like 2 weeks, so you'll be able to get in on it soon 👍
31:36, it's pronounced 'Salvator', yes the 'he's at the end is silent. I know this because I meet him and he has a site call 'Salva-store', a pun that wouldn't work if the 'e' in Salvatore wasn't silent.
I forget where I heard the idea from. But it took a Drow you faced and brought them back as a Dryder(mini Boss). This was because while on their trial from Lolth, your party came along and defeated them. This gave them an extra intensive to kill the party.
Nice thing about 5e, with a little effort most of the older edition critters can be converted
maybe for roleplaying options if you really want spiders to be important in your campaign, give one of the players a custom wearable item that gives it the ability to speak with specifically spiders either as long as they wear it, or a set time per day. This can give even boring spiders a chance to stand out as they chatter amongst each other and about the party. Similar like in the hobbit to when bilbo put on the ring in murkwood and could understand the giant spiders. it gives spiders personality and gives a good roleplay chance for the dm and players, and gives the players a chance to deal with the spiders more creatively other then just kill them on sight.
I’d make it so phase spiders travel in packs, maybe eight to nine in a group. Then they could stalk your players and mess with them by quickly appearing and disappearing just in their peripheral, or even appearing suddenly in front of them, only to vanish just as quick. It gives them some RP value and makes for a creepy encounter out of an otherwise unremarkable creature.
Great job on all your Videos! Huge help and inspiration.
Thank you Sean!
I used to think that drider was a really creative name for a monster... And then years later I realized it's just a portmanteau of DRow and spIDER.
I think Eberron or something has a scorpion varient that's called a scorrow, so . . . yeah.
The flavor text in the rankings of this video was probably my favorite set. Just down there in f tier like "hey stoopid".
It actually took me a while to figure out which band/singer to go with on this one, but found the perfect one ;)
My favorite format of dnd content on youtube thanks Esper
a spider just being a spider and not something special, while not technically roleplay, will have for many people higher fear, resulting in a more viceral roleplay then for example just the numbers and theoretical fear of a dragon
its a real irrational fear people have that they cant deny and if you have a few or even one of those people on the table, if they are able to play with it, i know some who cant, can lead to some very real emergent, not just gameplay but roleplay
honestly its kinda weird spiders dont have a will saved terror aura
The children of time series really made me love spiders. Where I am currently staying it is their breeding season, you can see they're such good mothers, they're carrying these big egg sacs while their actual abdomens are very small which means they've basically been prioritizing caring for their little babies over finding food. I like to have a playable race of full-blown sentient spiders in my world that trade with other civilizations and have beautiful glistening web architecture
15:26 Honestly I think the blackspawn stalker has some real horror potential, and perhaps showing a more horrific side to the Cult of Tiamat other than the usual "dragons×10" stuff.
You forgot the astroid spider from Spelljammer 🕷️🕸️
21:30 could be possible the reason why almost every demon has those resistances is because anything that did not died to the bebilith
Eddercap lore is kinda fun, Not sure if it was you but there was one about Eddercaps being Druids that went to far in the way of the Spider and became Eddercaps
Think it was jorphdan or ajpickett, but yeah. Good lore.
Excellent list! Really works my arachnophobia! I will say, though, I wish that the Red Widow from Ravenloft made it to the list. She always struck particular fear in me: A spider that disguises itself as a beautiful red haired woman that seduces men so that she can copulate with them to fertilize her eggs, then at his "release" shift into her spider form to devour her lover. A truly horrific monster!
Re: Aranae
"They're typically neutral aligned" he says while showing the Isle of Dread stat block at 22:28 that labels them as "Chaotic". Also, yes they "keep to themselves" in the sense that they don't hang out with other species, but they are definitely social with each other.
As luck would have it I'm actually working on a drow partisan campaign so this will be very useful
You will have a lot of great spider and drow resources to draw upon. Some of the most developed lore and ecologies in all of D&D.
Improved fey spider. It’s a small spider that can mimic voices and sounds like a mocking jay. These voices emit thru the ethereal. A false haunting is what i call it a house infested with these is the perfect surprise twist to a ghost busting mission. They mimic screams also they can knock over objects as they appear and dissapear acting like a poltergeist
On the Drow and their related monsters, I always thought that the transformation into a Drider being a punishment never made any sense. Looking at it, it’s purely an upgrade to be turned into one of those things.
I would instead replace their position with the Chitine and Choldrith, which actually make sense as a cursed punishment.
On the Drider, give them the ability to transform into fully humanoid drow, as well as into full giant spiders. Basically, they’d be Lolth’s take on lycanthropy. Only female Drow would be turned into them, and it would be said in lore that it was a gift. for marrying Lolth, who would have many Drider wives. All Matron Mothers would be one of these, as well as certain high ranking priestesses. That’s how I would do Drow society.
Oh, one more thing. The Drow Matron Mother’s Fickle Favor ability needs a rework. At present, it actually helps the party more than the enemies. It should really last a minute, and the damage it deals shouldn’t be automatic, but rather be something that triggers and ends the advantage effect if the drow it is used on misses an attack or fails an ability check or saving throw while it is in effect. That would make it much more dynamic and more interesting for parties to play against.
On the Driders, you could even add a lot more variety to them by having there be different types based on different types of spiders, each of which have their own unique abilities and hunting strategies.
>Looking at it, it is purely an upgrade to be turned into one of these things
Do all Christians want to be crucified?
I just watched the mimic video, and now am watching this. I REALLY love you giving attention to previous edition gems. I legit might buy a book just to get the 4e stats for the tower core and a few things here
This tier list is amazing, but I will vouch for the low-ranking unaligned predators. Lack of sapience isn't parallel to a lack of sentience, and there are a lot of non-combat based, even rewarding interactions you can have with something as unique as the humble spider.
Maybe demons are resistant to fire and poison because of Bebiliths, developing a natural defense against their predators, and the Bebilith have yet to develop new hunting techniques.
I just want to give a shout-out to the Fang of Lloth prestige class from Song and Silence (3.0)
Basically, it turns the character into a half-spider while giving some rogue progression.
That was freaking amazing. Great work Esper!
Thank you Justin!
What about the Cildabrin? Technically it's a giant scorpion but scorpions and spiders are both arachnids. There's also the Chwidencha a giant spider that has 12 legs and can grapple you with them.
It's funny that I found this video while researching different spiders for my campaign with Lolth as the BBEG. Thanks for the inspiration.
“it’s just a human sized spider.”….man what!?
I used spider monsters in a random encounter that seriously unnerved my players.
Two ettercaps with web garrotes inside of a disguised trapdoor. Beneath the trapdoor is a vertical tunnel lined with webs, at the bottom of which is a choldrith. One of the PCs was standing watch in the desert at night, failed a perception check, and got dragged into the trap door. The players were immediately agitated, because everyone but the sentry was asleep. So they had to make perception checks with disadvantage to see if they heard him get grabbed. Then once they woke up, they had to make more perception checks to locate the trap door. All while the sentry is being strangled and making constitution checks to stay conscious.
Eventually one of the PCs located the trap door and threw it open, leading to a battle to was on a vertical plane instead of a horizontal one. Once everyone was conscious and working together, the battle went pretty quick (especially when someone cast Wall of Water at the bottom of the tunnel). But the panic I inspired in my players is something I cherish to this day.
I feel like the Phase Spider might be linked to the Grey Widowers from The Mist by Steven King
I wonder if anyone has homebrewed those acid spider webs.
Excuse me Esper but what is the pic at 1:42 of the Giant Spider coming out of a mountain reading a book to the wild life critters from? Mtg? D&D? But also love your monster rankings hope to see more in the future 👍
Thanks Dustin! It's an illustration from Wild Beyond the Witchlight. I haven't actually played the module, but the image was great for this.
17:36 Wasn't that the method for one of the Muppets alien sketches?
Hey Esper, as soon as I seen the thumbnail I knew I had a spider for you, lol. "I am the Spider!" Please let me know what you think if and when you have the time 😊. My conversion below.
Quest for the Silver Sword (BECMI).
White Widow Spider: use giant spider upper stat block.
ACTION.
Bite.
Melee Weapon Attack: +5 to hit, reach 5 ft., one creature. Hit: 7 (1d8 +3) piercing damage, and the target must make a DC 11 Constitution saving throw against cryotoxin or be instantly frozen, indefinitely. The target appears dead to all outward inspection. Only magic will reveal that the target is still alive, a lesser restoration spell will end the Effect on the target.
Web (Recharge 5-6).
The white widow spider can spray her web upto 60 ft. away, filling a 20 ft. square, webbing doesn't require an anchor between two solid masses (such as walls or trees). The white widow's webbing is not used to trap prey, it instead whistles or hums in the wind. The webbing plays magical harp music. The white widow's webbing appears as sparkling strings of ice or jets of water frozen in midair. As an action a creature can make a DC 14 Strength check, bursting the webbing on a success. The webbing can also be attacked and destroyed (AC 12; hp 5; vulnerability to bludgeoning; immunity to cold, poison, and psychic damage).
Whistling Web.
Every Humanoid and Giant within 30 ft. of the web that can hear the music must succeed on a DC 13 Wisdom saving throw or be Charmed until the music ends. The music ends if the web is destroyed. While Charmed by the music, a target is Incapacitated. If the Charmed target is more than 5 ft. away from the web, they must move on its turn toward the web by the most direct route. It doesn't avoid Opportunity Attacks, but before moving into damaging terrain, such as lava or a pit, and whenever it takes damage from a source other than the White Widow Spider, a target can repeat the saving throw. A creature can also repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns. If a creature's saving throw is successful, the Effect ends on it. A target that successfully saves is immune to this web's whistling music for the next 24 hours.
Thanks for the video you have a wonderful day!
Note on Volo's Guide: If you try looking these up in D&DBeyond, you'll see it registered as Mordenkainen's Monsters of the Multiverse. Reason being they're fundamentally the same book, which is why you can't get digital copies of Volo's or a hard copy of Mordenkainen's. The only difference, and I do mean only, is that Mordenkainen's features Aberrations in remarkable detail- so unless you're running Out of the Abyss or Descent into Avernus, the hard copy would suffice. Of course I learned this after buying both.
Not "fundamentally the same book", but because entries of Volo's Guide to Monsters and Mordekainen's Tome of Foes (an amazing book with plenty of really spellcasting monsters and lore that WOTC killed off) were stripped and crammed into Mordekainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse.
I'd love more this style video, its wonderful to watch.
If you look into even older editions, then BECMI has some really cool options. The deity Korotiku is a spider trickster and philosopher as well as shapeshifter who makes a great patron for a good aligned character who likes spiders.
The Aranea have a truly amazing civilization in the Kingdom of Herath deepening their lore significantly and resulting in many cool NPCs who get story appearances in the Voyages of the Princess Ark. Aranea in BECMI have three terrifying variations, the mages of Herath have the ability to become invisible and gain innate magical powers called legacies from a curse they unleashed on their neighbors. The Arasheem is an undead Aranea that was powerful enough to "survive" failing the attempt to become a lich, and still retains at least 12-level wizard capabilities on top of all the normal Aranea powers. The Yeshom is a successful Aranea Lich which has become a black ooze spider of pure evil and is ridiculously powerful magically, they have all the abilities of a lich a black pudding an aranea and an 18th level wizard plus a wide selection of special powers from the red curse with none of the drawbacks other lesser entities suffer. In BECMI, Aranea and their kingdom of Herath are absolutely terrifying.
The Neh-Thalgu or Brain Collector is a BECMI original that appeared in many other editions and is a denizen of the dimension of nightmares that steals brains and then can use all the memories and abilities of all the brains it has stolen and embedded into its abdomen (dimensions are not merely planes, each dimension is a complete multiverse itself with copies of all planes in the main multiverse, so the dimension of nightmares has a parallel abyss, celestia, aethereal sea, etc.). The Planar Spiders of BECMI are intelligent spellcasting merchants.
Shroud spiders are the apex spiders among BECMI's beasts, with glowing eyes, immunity to non-magic weapons, and webs that aren't sticky but instead have a paralytic venom coating them. Sand spiders are the trapdoor variant 5e is missing. The Rhagodessa is a 10-legged spider with suction cups on the extra limbs instead of webs. The crab spider color shifts like a chameleon, and the tarantella has a poison that makes you dance until you die of exhaustion. Even the basic huge wood spider is a little cooler in BECMI as they are most often encountered as the trained mounts of Wood Imps who are fey that lost their immortality and magic and live among the spiders as petty tyrants and bandits.
Wait a minute, hold up, roll back the cart. You're telling me that you're just gonna stand there hold up the torch while me and the rest of the guys are gonna go down in this dark dungeon. Completely covered in spirit webb's probably a temple of Lolth or what ever eight legged unholy creatures? Yes. Ok i see how it is but remember our partys name Orkin! And if we make it out alive we are charging you a hazardous fee.
Why is lolth's reaver in c-tier if you liked it so much? It speaks 2 languages and such for those additional story possibilities you always mention.
I liked 4e. Combat system I liked. Is it perfect? Nope. But a little homebrew makes 4e a great way to get people started into the world of D&D.
Love it! Learned a lot about spider monstrosities in this video. Finally, something to build up my arsenal!
12:29 ohhh look at the Shrike of Hyperion's Cantos ....sooooo creepy ;=0
23:46 "tomb spider" , Lara Croft next reincarnation ?
I just got blessed by the Esper''s inspiring touch : what about a giant tique sucking its victimes into horror ?
I called it the "Tique-à-sosie": when the tique fills its big grey-beige belly w/ the life of its victime ,
the belly cracks, hatches and releases a doppelganger perfect image of the victime
which will go back to its people in order to betray them and drive them into the den of the Tique
for its next meal and new recruitment of a minion...
Love these videos not only for the creatures but also cause I like to sea how many of the artworks shown are mtg original card art
Their is just nobody who does as great rankings as you do! I love that you look at so many diffrent things and like you sad it is a roleplaying game.
I get your rating for the wolf spider but it is actually much better in my opinion not because it is earning more then you rated it but because it is one of the cooler and better animal companions a ranger can get which makes it pretty useful as a creature. The next character I want to make is a beastmaster goblin using the wolfspider and writing into battle on it^^.
PS: the same of course goes for the normal spider because it can be a familiar so it can be a very useful creature with tons of personalty but that of course is what we make of it as players and dm's and not the statblock itself.
Older edition's monsters are always good to see, no matter what the editions is!
Thank you for the video!
Thanks for swooping by, Owl!
My older sister is well versed in Lolth because her first character was a half-drow, so she might be able to help me set something up for a close encounter with Lolth. Also, the Lloskh (sorry if misspelled) reads the literal appearance of a spider-monkey
I had forgotten about the tomb spider! My PC's are going to hate you. Thank you for reminding me!
Oh I remember the spider king from the Out of the Abyss. He had to bribed so that he allowed players to go on, good memories :)
I once ran a ranger that had ptsd from a spider attack when he was a boy, which manifested as his Favored Foe. His Arachnophobia literally gave him strength lmfao
ALGORITHM LETS GOOOOO
I'm happy to see another tier list!
I received my espers emporium hard cover today!!! It's beautiful!!!!! Top quality book. Great illustrations. You must have had to hire an artist? Wow what a great 5e book. I'm surprised dungeons and dragons haven't hired you.
Thank you Rob! Yes, I hired many artists and did some illustrations myself.
There are also the Chwidencha which are grotesque masses of spidery legs and come into existence when a less powerful drow is tested by Lolth and fails.
As a sufferer of arachnophobia, this will be a struggle. 😬🕷️
I would like to point out that this video is of great help to me, as giant venomous spiders are on my list of favorite foods.
I would like to point that out, but I will not. Experience has taught me that is a guaranteed way to get mistaken for a human.
Do you pickle them with your acid or just eat them raw and squirming?
@@esperthebard You have a very good way of thinking.
Indeed, sometimes you need to make sure to have some reserves. I do in fact have a recipe. Their chitin shell, their silk, sheep wool and goat horns offered by peasants in the form of taxes, and a little bit of sea shell, sealed in acid in a jar.
This protein slush is primarily used to get damaged scales to grow back faster after battle.
@@rachdarastrix5251 Well I do have a particular fondness for copper dragons. Ah yes, the bit of sea shell, that's what really ties it all together.
I'd argue that a giant wolf spider is a really great alternative to Goblins. Goblins are such a joke nowadays that they're usually just easy xp...
But a giant-ish spider scuttling out of the floor like a trapdoor spider and grabbing the Druid's leg? Oho, that'll keep things fresh when your players get bored
Shoot from hiding, then hide again as a bonus action using Nimble Escape. If you are approached by an enemy, slash'em with your scimitar and disengage as a bonus action using Nimble Escape. That's the typical modus operandi for the goblin. Easy XP, eh?
I'd love to see more dnd spider tier list. Dnd Spider Lore and the characters have a special place in my heart. With my very first character being an arachne (half humanoid, half spider).
I'm trying to do that as well, can you tell me about your build?
Esper, I just realized you actually forgot one. There’s also the Asteroid Spider. It was one of the monsters released in the Monstrous Compendium Volume One: Spelljammer Creatures. I don’t know if you have D&D Beyond, as that’s the only place it was available.
Fun idea I like to use. Goblins and giant wolf spiders etc don't have to be weak or boring. If you want to spice them up a bit I love to mount goblins on worlf spiders. Then then mounted goblins can ride the spiders onto the ceiling of the cave or whatever you're fighting in, one of melee reach, and will have a reasonable excuse for all their weapons to be poisoned with giant wolf spider venom. Takes an otherwise bland encounter and somewhat ljterally flips it on it's head (cause the ceiling goblins will be upsidedown).
There's a bit of speculative lore around the Ettercaps that they might be originally druids from long long ago who worshipped spiders and eventually lost any semblance of their original humanity and civilization in their pious worship, becoming lesser monsters. That story alone really bumps Ettercaps into the A-tier for me, just coz of how cool that story has proven to be in practice with my games, especially when dealing with druid players :)
For my own OSR game using the Hyperborea system I created two kinds of giant jumping spiders, the first are German Shepherd sized, can leap 90 feet, have a paralytic venom, and a reat chance at surprising, the second are worse yet, these are either long-jawed or greater and have all the first did, but higher damage dice, more hit-dice, and even can take player lvls and be spell casters. My party was rather surprised when they found out that they had to deal with one that was a Priest and further surprised when another that was an Illusionist that knew Invisibility.
I agree with your point on Phase spiders. They need more intelligence to make better use if their abilities.
I need to point out something that is often missed about Lloth and that is her origin points towards her being God Cursed. She is quite literally one of the VERY few who were personally cursed by a Greater God. One who is considered only second in power on Torill & the D&D universe.
I wish I'd known about Arasta's art before my players had reached our Big Boss fight. It was a magic spider that had infected the God of Dreams. Arasta's art is way more fitting than Sheoldred's.
This was a fun video. Full of neat monsters I'd never heard of and not too rambly about each one.
It is some amazing art, by Jesper Ejsing.
Also thanks, I made a concentrated effort this ranking not to get too long-winded.
Now I understand WHY you put the giant wolf spider at F rank but hear me out! It’s CR 1/4 and a medium creature. That means it can be a beastmaster companion and a mount for small player characters. With spells like beast bond you could send your companion forward to stalk the target with that expertise stealth that will grow stronger as you do.
And I was amused that you called it the “goblin of spiders” because one of my unused characters IS a goblin beastmaster with a giant wolf spider.
Lhosk: Change the back 4 legs to gorilla legs, give them two more sets of gorilla arms up front. Multiattack, slam and spear stab with vaulting slam as a bonus action if both connect.
Always love these rankings! Are you considering expanding into other systems some time, like Pathfinder? Maybe even comparative rankings?
I've been waiting for this for so long
I appreciate the MTG spider art. so many of the spiders in that game are criminally slept on and I wish I had prints of all of them.
Any favorite mtg spiders? I've used deadly recluse quite a bit, it's a great cheap defensive creature.