Making a unique front suspension tilting tricycle

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2019
  • Going so far i'm introducing my new front suspension tilting design built to attach on a bicycle frame.
    The benefits of that system is that you can carry a big basket between the front 2 wheels, as big as is the space there, because of the parallel moving of both wheels compared with the steering system.
    Also the front suspension giving a smooth scrolling above the road bumping transferring the bounce from one wheel both to suspension and the other wheel - not to the frame.
    Farthermore, despite the fact that the wheels have a soft feeling of damping individually, when they are overloaded at the same time, suspension hardens exponentially to withstand the pressure it receives.
    Those "tilting designs" usually fail to keep the center of gravity low when cornering produsing the oposite phenomenon to their vehicles that attached. Having big wheel diameter, making that worse, because the user have to fight with the center of gravity when cornering. To solve that parammeter i choose a the very low front arm joints geometry relative to the hubs of the front wheels.
    Disadvantages of my design is front braking. Because of the fact i have independent front wheels, braking is determined by road traction of each wheel. When one of them slips, the other push the front system to turn at one direction. I'm working to find a solution to this problem by putting a steering damper to my front system to decrease tha fact..
    You can support me by ordering my new improved tilting trike kit on this link
    / 5439858046062339
    3D animation: Dimitri Avramidis
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 467

  • @WhyNotCycles
    @WhyNotCycles  Рік тому +13

    My front suspension tilting kit is available upon request
    _facebook.com/commerce/products/5439858046062339/_

    • @davds8918
      @davds8918 Рік тому

      Hi ! Could I put fat tires on it for example and could it handle a 30kg weight ? Thanks

    • @darkhunter777
      @darkhunter777 8 місяців тому +1

      А чем обычный волосапед не устраивает ? ))

    • @higleywelding8638
      @higleywelding8638 7 місяців тому

      How do I order one of these? When I click on link it goes blank? Pleases advise.

    • @CL-gj9mf
      @CL-gj9mf Місяць тому

      How many euros? If you sell it, i buy it!

  • @sigurdurkjartansson696
    @sigurdurkjartansson696 4 роки тому +21

    That's the best design that I've seen so far. Wish I had one.

  • @telmozanotticardoso6064
    @telmozanotticardoso6064 4 роки тому +2

    Um dos melhores designer de suspensão independente que já vai , ficou ótimo

  • @dalezapple2493
    @dalezapple2493 4 роки тому +5

    Great bike, would work great for the upcoming winter riding season

  • @kelvinleigh
    @kelvinleigh 4 роки тому +8

    An e-bike in this configuration would be awesome!

    • @grimcat27
      @grimcat27 4 роки тому

      The extra speed and weight may make it a little dangerous. It has a wide turning radius and the suspension may be a problem. But hay if I had one I'd throw a 1500w rear direct drive on it and a class 1 controller on it.

  • @kadaalili7381
    @kadaalili7381 4 роки тому +43

    where is the " making " part

  • @solarflare1008
    @solarflare1008 4 роки тому +6

    Great looks of this old technology. Congratulations.

  • @fonwoolridge
    @fonwoolridge 3 роки тому +2

    Wow! Been thinking of something a bit like this for a while - but this is on another level.... Bravo!

  • @ianleyillustrado4351
    @ianleyillustrado4351 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing. I'm from Philippines. Thanks for sharing

  • @mgut17
    @mgut17 4 роки тому +84

    misleading title, should not be making but showing us a tilting tricycle

  • @quentinpietersen1308
    @quentinpietersen1308 4 роки тому +19

    Best concept lean-steer to a standard bike I've seen. Great engineering, hope it goes to production.

    • @demandred1957
      @demandred1957 4 роки тому +2

      NOT a concept. Mother Earth News did this almost 30 years ago.. look it up.

    • @daysetx
      @daysetx 4 роки тому +3

      @@demandred1957 Please provide links or description, i would be very grateful for this info.

  • @allegrokids4426
    @allegrokids4426 4 роки тому +7

    Excelent! Perfect! But ¿what's happen with the rear suspencion for back wheel?

  • @albertogutirrezjuarez239
    @albertogutirrezjuarez239 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, thats amazing, i need one like that

  • @magixcue9512
    @magixcue9512 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing your videos, I am building and design my project, unfortunately, I do not have any workshop and or any special tools. All parts built is bit by bit, part by part. I still working on it for better design on the suspension parts. Hope to complete it !

  • @maxgood42
    @maxgood42 4 роки тому

    I like the simplicity of this design awesome

    • @jiroyamamoto2878
      @jiroyamamoto2878 4 роки тому

      except the wheels need to turn at the hubs, like a car. In this design, the entire suspension turns and that takes up lots of space.

  • @jackhume4532
    @jackhume4532 4 роки тому +6

    Cool idea, this is something that I would have when I am a lot older, and also this tilting front duel wheels is a really good idea as you do not have to worry about the push that you can get with a standard duel rear wheel trike setup.
    A really cool idea.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 Рік тому +1

    WOW! I love it. Very Cool! Thank you.

  • @BLACK-hl4ic
    @BLACK-hl4ic 4 роки тому +1

    O Men! It's awesome
    It's my dream proto cycle.
    You are Great 👍👍👍👍

  • @samday6621
    @samday6621 4 роки тому +6

    Very cool and well executed.
    I’m interested to see how you distribute any load carried in front and if you need to extend the wheel base (front to back) to keep the rear grounded.

    • @IXIskarfaceIXI
      @IXIskarfaceIXI 4 роки тому +1

      This setup look like any excessive load in the front would resuslt in a loss of traction in the rear, so extending the lentgh of the bike seem to be a prerequisite. Your worry are real.

    • @WhyNotCycles
      @WhyNotCycles  4 роки тому +2

      Porsche decided to place carrera's engine outside wheelbase at the rear of the car. They took this decision thinking of a car like more than an engine and four wheels. Passengers, bodywork and driving situations also affects to the traction behavior of the vehicle, especially at my design, carrying the weight of a human at the front, i think is possible, by the time a driver sitting at his possition. It would be a problem if I had no suspension on the front. In accidental breaking, the rear wheel would lose the ground if it was a little weight in front!

  • @raantan6683
    @raantan6683 3 роки тому +1

    Now this is something I need when I go out to avoid commuting

  • @jeromeriedl
    @jeromeriedl 4 роки тому

    That thing is so cool! I would love the try that bike out. Also it would be really cool to see it with 2 wheels in the back. I don’t even want to think about what pulling a wheelie feels like. Oh wait, actually I do.

  • @divertechnology
    @divertechnology 2 роки тому

    you are very human sourcer in sharing your design

  • @alejandrocastro211
    @alejandrocastro211 6 місяців тому

    beautiful simplicity

  • @thechumpsbeendumped.7797
    @thechumpsbeendumped.7797 4 роки тому +14

    This would be great for a streamlined tilting recumbent.

    • @daniele_go
      @daniele_go 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly! This is my project for a tilting velomobile: ua-cam.com/video/uL7F5d7v-SI/v-deo.html

    • @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs
      @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs 3 роки тому +1

      I don't understand why we don't see recumbent trikes with such technology being sold. There's gotta be a catch!

    • @thechumpsbeendumped.7797
      @thechumpsbeendumped.7797 3 роки тому +2

      @@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs
      I suspect it’s because of a few things, cost, weight, complexity and size.
      These things are imo extremely overpriced in their standard, non suspension form. All the extra mechanical components are just gonna add to that. If the wheels are inboard they or the tilting mechanism needs to move, this movement takes up space meaning the body needs to be bigger to accommodate it and therefore less aerodynamic and also heavier.

    • @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs
      @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs 3 роки тому

      @@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

    • @ricknoe942
      @ricknoe942 3 роки тому +2

      @@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 "These things are imo extremely overpriced in their standard, non suspension form." - I couldn't agree more!

  • @tiliniglesias5494
    @tiliniglesias5494 3 роки тому

    Wow bro you've got a three tires jewell thanks for this delicious video I watched it twice

  • @JakobusVdL
    @JakobusVdL 3 роки тому +5

    Hi, very cool looking trike. Does the bike part become less stable because the front wheel is no longer directly attached to the forks?
    And how do you lock out the tilting when you park it?

  • @alvarobotelhovillelaaprendernu
    @alvarobotelhovillelaaprendernu 2 роки тому

    És o Rei da suspensão para triciclo vou tentar fazer uma cópia kkkk + 1 vez parabéns 👏

  • @armandomunoz3190
    @armandomunoz3190 4 роки тому

    Ay that's awesome . Shout out from El Salvador

    • @sato547
      @sato547 3 роки тому

      quiza este te ponga pedo ua-cam.com/video/oXNI-Zas_fM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RWINSOLO

  • @snoopydoggy5196
    @snoopydoggy5196 4 роки тому +5

    I'm going to try to make this with my everlast welder. I like the stability combined with the maneuverability.

  • @SEMPERE3D
    @SEMPERE3D 3 роки тому

    Flipant, (awesome) I love your work

  • @antoon777
    @antoon777 4 роки тому

    Wow. Just Awesome. Thumbs Up !

  • @jailsonmedeiros4444
    @jailsonmedeiros4444 3 роки тому +1

    Cara vc é um gênio parabéns pela tua invenção 👏

  • @pranavchaugule1448
    @pranavchaugule1448 4 роки тому

    Use motor at rear hub to assist pedaling !😊👌 Awesome work!

  • @brightshadows3931
    @brightshadows3931 4 роки тому +79

    Did everyone read "making"?
    Or just me?
    Title should be "riding".
    1 dislike for clickbait.

    • @halphantom2274
      @halphantom2274 3 роки тому +1

      lol. congrats! you get 1000 points for entitlement. Is it really too much for you to just click on some points in the vid and then go somewhere else, if it wasn't what you searched for?

    • @LifesAbe-ach
      @LifesAbe-ach 3 роки тому +5

      Exactly Bright sick of the false labelling on here , lifes to short to waste watching this crap

  • @strongblack4569
    @strongblack4569 4 роки тому +1

    Nice bike 👌💪 wish I had one

  • @Waterlooplein1
    @Waterlooplein1 4 роки тому +2

    As a road bike for a single person I would say it is a roadhog. But as a bike to carry cargo or a person, great idea!

    • @donkihotay5748
      @donkihotay5748 3 роки тому

      Roadhog as in compared to 4-wheel Godzillas? (cycling champion POV)

    • @Waterlooplein1
      @Waterlooplein1 3 роки тому

      They are roadhogs too.

  • @andret4144
    @andret4144 4 роки тому +1

    Parabéns genial o projeto

  • @donkihotay5748
    @donkihotay5748 3 роки тому +8

    Here you get something creative and wonderful, free, costing only your time and attention, and still some people whine?

  • @andycapo9you
    @andycapo9you 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice work, idea and setup. The only big problem here will be to drive with the system loaded, it will make you have arms like Arnold... 😅 Therefor the traditional steering system exists; to make the wheels change directions and not the whole load. I personally will put the damper inside the lower arm, that way, it won't change it's geometry everytime you tilt. Good Job!

  • @Hudsonkem
    @Hudsonkem 3 роки тому

    i really loved your design bro, after I saw it, now i am desperate to do in my bike too.

  • @unclepete100
    @unclepete100 2 роки тому

    That is really cool man 👍👍

  • @xcrcrypt
    @xcrcrypt 6 місяців тому

    this is something else my friend welll done!

  • @MrHondata2000
    @MrHondata2000 4 роки тому

    Ωραιος ρε φιλαράκι,μπράβο!

  • @alvarobotelhovillelaaprendernu
    @alvarobotelhovillelaaprendernu 2 роки тому

    Parabéns 👏 pelo projeto 👏 muito bom mesmo 👏 um abraço

  • @g.b.9429
    @g.b.9429 3 роки тому

    Well done. Good job

  • @yasseralsaidi1168
    @yasseralsaidi1168 7 місяців тому

    Now I just need a front basket for shopping items

  • @abiseniyya
    @abiseniyya 2 роки тому +1

    I don't see the bike tilting, but the earth is.

  • @crazyoldhippieguy
    @crazyoldhippieguy 4 роки тому +2

    6-12-2019.Did you read my mind?Is that SS tubing and why don,t you have a plate at the botten of the forks?

  • @heidymatinez7356
    @heidymatinez7356 2 роки тому

    Works the way it is supposed to. Just Good

  • @manulemelin6904
    @manulemelin6904 3 роки тому

    Nice design! what front hubs/axles did you used?

  • @shaynescobie
    @shaynescobie 5 місяців тому

    Beautiful machine

  • @shonnburton2757
    @shonnburton2757 4 роки тому +10

    Awesome! This has so many applications. Would love something like this on a 30mph e-bike. Would also like a conversion kit that could be used on any bike. Let me know when I can buy one!

  • @darylogle6696
    @darylogle6696 4 роки тому +8

    Make a 1000w electric one with rear Suspension also

  • @chanchleshamrate2624
    @chanchleshamrate2624 4 роки тому

    Excellent brother

  • @cesarvalerio4292
    @cesarvalerio4292 3 роки тому

    Nice! Greetings from Brasil

  • @WFPllNGPD
    @WFPllNGPD 4 роки тому

    Very nice video. Which program has been used to create the animations?

  • @111tier
    @111tier 4 роки тому +2

    Огонь!!! Если бы немного чертежей, то можно собирать такой в гараже!

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 4 роки тому

    Is there any counter-steering involved when steering at speed?

  • @stopglobalswarming
    @stopglobalswarming 4 роки тому +1

    This isn’t the first of these made, but it is nice. If you have the steering angle and caster correct you can really shred down hill.

  • @cmvinteriordesigns
    @cmvinteriordesigns 3 роки тому

    Wow! Wish I had one

  • @kingtut5923
    @kingtut5923 2 роки тому

    Very nice idea.

  • @koperasisan6663
    @koperasisan6663 3 роки тому

    Simple and smart idea. . .

  • @Customskorol
    @Customskorol 8 місяців тому

    It is a very cool design, i can only imagine how low it tilts. How did you visualize you idea. What software did you use?

  • @diogodantas3542
    @diogodantas3542 3 роки тому

    Awesome design. Very well engineering. 👏👍
    My father had an accident so now I have a tricycle to take “walks” with him and this would be perfect to add to it.
    Please tell me what I need to do for you to send me the blueprints or the cad Project of this?

  • @marketingpuntocom8710
    @marketingpuntocom8710 4 роки тому

    que triciclo tan bueno!!!

  • @mittapelliravikiran6942
    @mittapelliravikiran6942 2 роки тому

    Camera work is 👍

  • @jeffreybailess2560
    @jeffreybailess2560 4 роки тому

    would you mind sharing the capacity of that shock absorber that you used?

  • @carldegotie1009
    @carldegotie1009 3 роки тому

    Hola. gran diseño. Cuanto cuestan y donde se orden los diseños

  • @benyahiamohamed9230
    @benyahiamohamed9230 3 роки тому

    Nice work continue 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ahmadmada5493
    @ahmadmada5493 2 роки тому

    Very interesting, i love it.. btw what your backsound this video?

  • @jeorlieedang2928
    @jeorlieedang2928 4 роки тому +3

    Wow is this open source design or copyright protected? I would like to use this design for my next year personal project. Buiding my own trike.

    • @IXIskarfaceIXI
      @IXIskarfaceIXI 4 роки тому +4

      Copyright concern the exact blueprint, not the idea.

  • @IXIskarfaceIXI
    @IXIskarfaceIXI 4 роки тому

    I get it that is easier to transform the front instead of the back because of the need of a lot more work but wouldn't it be more usefull ? Like being able to carry more, what is the best pro for a double front wheel setup compared to the opposite ?

    • @IXIskarfaceIXI
      @IXIskarfaceIXI 4 роки тому

      Also what would be the difference in rolling resistance in both setup ?

  • @billhillyer334
    @billhillyer334 4 роки тому

    Nice soft squishy ride if a rear swing arm were to be installed

  • @peterhudlicka4864
    @peterhudlicka4864 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing build! Would you mind sharing what your spring rate was for the spring used in your shock?

  • @romandybala
    @romandybala 3 роки тому

    All the convenience of a bike with the width and complexity of a car.How do you get it thru a gate or doorway?

  • @vicentepedromachado1997
    @vicentepedromachado1997 3 роки тому

    Muito bom, bom para ir so trabalho.

  • @NigelMarston
    @NigelMarston 4 роки тому

    Wonder if it would work on the front of a cargo bike, like the Bullitt?
    Love the design though.

    • @Or5mr
      @Or5mr 4 роки тому

      I bet you is not that heav

    • @sato547
      @sato547 3 роки тому

      chike es parecido buscalo

  • @waltersaunders7699
    @waltersaunders7699 4 роки тому +1

    Great design mate. I'd love to build one for an electric trike i'm toying with. Are there any plans available for the steering?

    • @WhyNotCycles
      @WhyNotCycles  4 роки тому

      Plans in rhino comes with a price ;)
      Let me know if you are interested.
      Thank you!

    • @jaxon8579
      @jaxon8579 4 роки тому

      How much for the plans for this front end design? Thanks Great Work!

    • @WhyNotCycles
      @WhyNotCycles  4 роки тому +2

      @@jaxon8579 25euros+vat will be the price! If you are interested sent me an email!
      thank you!

    • @nelsonnelsonyoutube2803
      @nelsonnelsonyoutube2803 4 роки тому +1

      WhyNot Cycles I am an engineer and like this design. Do you sell your bikes plus the design. Write me back Nelson.wang@Hygear.com thanks.
      R

  • @Buckarooskiczek
    @Buckarooskiczek 4 роки тому +3

    Very cool. Not sure how you actually “make” this, but cool, nonetheless.
    Now...doesn’t this defeat the purpose of a three-wheel (which is stability?)

    • @250tegra
      @250tegra 2 роки тому

      @Buckarooskiczek Productions - Depends which way you're looking! from a bike viewpoint, a trike adds some stability with another wheel . . . from a car (or pram, or tuck) viewpoint it is usually less stable. The benefit is that the leaning trike can corner like a bike (potentially fast) without being wide. And with some ingenuity, it will stand upright if you get off and walk away too. Tall bikes/trikes are better in towns too - better visibility and a better view too.

  • @venkateshputtaswamy9260
    @venkateshputtaswamy9260 4 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @888_p3t3r
    @888_p3t3r 3 роки тому

    is there anything holding this bike upright when it stands still. Or would it fall sideways like a normal bike?

  • @miguelboladomuniz4719
    @miguelboladomuniz4719 3 місяці тому

    Hola, tengo esclerosis y me gustaría convertir mi bicicleta en un triciclo por la estabilidad y me encanta esta propuesta que presentas me podías indicar como o donde hacerlo? Muchas gracias.

  • @emgee44
    @emgee44 8 місяців тому

    Would like to see this on a recumbent trike, that would be my preference

  • @pfitz6693
    @pfitz6693 3 роки тому

    Very cool!

  • @Lardzor
    @Lardzor 2 роки тому

    It looks like each front wheel is connected to a hub, and the hub is connected to the frame by upper and lower controller arms. The single shock is connected to the top of both hubs and placed above the upper controller arms.
    could you not connect the shock to the bottom of each hub, and place the shock between the upper and lower controller arms? I think it would work, and compact the design.

  • @rameswarareddyn3422
    @rameswarareddyn3422 3 роки тому

    Nice tricycle

  • @grumpygrandpa3640
    @grumpygrandpa3640 4 роки тому

    So where can I get one or the details to make it from ?

  • @xanonadovas4403
    @xanonadovas4403 4 роки тому

    sir I hope you could share how you build this thing from zero to complete

  • @futurecaredesign
    @futurecaredesign 4 роки тому +7

    Yassas! This is really amazing! I would love to incorporate this on a fuel efficiency 30cc recumbent bicycle build I am working on. Do you do custom work? I live in Greece as well.

    • @WhyNotCycles
      @WhyNotCycles  4 роки тому +2

      Im doing only custom work :)

    • @futurecaredesign
      @futurecaredesign 4 роки тому

      @@WhyNotCycles Cheers, expect an email when the time comes :)

  • @phatmeow7764
    @phatmeow7764 4 роки тому

    Good Lord with a Galea helmet and a Gladius in a scabbard riding this one almost feels like a Roman legionary! I jest but great design - maybe a wee bit narrower to be more nimble in cycling paths/urban environments?

  • @charleyfoster7118
    @charleyfoster7118 4 роки тому

    So.... How do we get the plans for what you got so far? I don't want to wait until you perfect it. I want to build one now and see what developes!

    • @WhyNotCycles
      @WhyNotCycles  4 роки тому +1

      Οκ Charley! if you are interested give me your e-mail to sent you the paypal request. (blueprints in rhino costs 33 euro vat & fees included)
      After complete the payment i ll sent you the files!

  • @cankuscankus2341
    @cankuscankus2341 4 роки тому

    Güzel çalışma 👍👏👏👏

  • @jack-qb8fq
    @jack-qb8fq 3 роки тому

    Excuse me,
    When the first two wheel positions are on the ground at different heights, the shock absorber can still maintain stability when tilted a few degrees.

  • @aguinaldosantos129
    @aguinaldosantos129 4 роки тому +2

    Este trabalho e classe â
    À

  • @Dr.Comers
    @Dr.Comers 3 роки тому +2

    Everything is awesome! One question - For what?)))

    • @devadathans5506
      @devadathans5506 3 роки тому

      Higher stability compared to bikes and trikes.

  • @user-ki6ub9tu9v
    @user-ki6ub9tu9v 3 роки тому +1

    Круто и в пробке проехать в междурядье можно, и на покрышках съэкономить!

  • @MustangsTrainsMowers
    @MustangsTrainsMowers 3 роки тому

    Where do you get the front hubs, brakes and wheels? I have an old adult size trike I’d like to convert to 4 wheels.

  • @ianblueadventure
    @ianblueadventure 4 роки тому +4

    Wish I could have one bro!!!! Wow

  • @ajayarajbhandari6584
    @ajayarajbhandari6584 3 роки тому

    How to make by self at home
    Can you send step by step procedure and items/ parts required for it.
    Great job 👌 you have done.

  • @patrickpanhuysen9618
    @patrickpanhuysen9618 4 роки тому +1

    Add a cable operated locking device on the suspension to keep the bike upright during standstill. See other video's on the tube. Parts of a discbrake are used for that.