Loved all the three perspectives being shared but personally I would like more insight into how an anchor / floater (Reps mostly) thinks in the midgame holding and rotations. Anchoring is probably one of the least focused roles and I think the community would benefit from these styles of breakdowns focusing on the less obvious roles and niches. Apex TSM all day
Yes. Absolutely more educational content for competition. Truly wish I could just pick their brains as they're playing live to learn why they make a certain play and what info they used to determine it. Obviously that won't happen, and as a team you don't want to give up the REAL knowledge for obvious reasons
please do more of these even though I know most of these basics it's still nice to see your thought process on this while it's playing out and the explaining of it make it very nice to watch, learn from so thank you for doing this
@@CRF250R1521 In the game files, there's a file that basically sets boundaries for where the center of the final ring cannot be. TSM Raven read the file or got someone to interpret the file and he created a map so TSM knows the areas where the game can't end on. Combined with general experience on rings and pulling zones, this allows TSM to better predict where zones will end, which helps inform their positioning decisions. This is a hot debate in the Apex competitive scene right now. I won't go into the opinions flying around because there are a lot of them.
@@kingoffongpei they’re either gonna let everyone data mine or make it so no one can but it’s pretty irresponsable of apex to leak them lol I believe it is the fault of the game developers tbh
@@NoelT04 Nope, he was getting datamined info (not datamining). And it was EXCLUSION zones, places the zone can't go sooo.. not "all possible zones" (and this is publicly available data which at least several other of the largest ORGs have been using as well)
Good play of Jordan to offer the swap at the end but still having the sense to grab it himself when hal took too long. Evan staying alive too while he was pretty much 1v3 was massive
i love this breakdown from the different perspective of each team member. This particular match was an absolute banger to watch live but the way the boys are thinking out their strategies while reviewing the gameplay is absolute gold. It helps noobies like me understand the whys and hows. More stuff like this please! GG EZ Clap
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I think the datamined results show the possibilities where zone might end. At first, the possibilities are numerous, but the more it closes, the possibilities began to narrow. Once you scan, you have effectively decreased the number of possible endings or figured out exactly where it will end depending on the zone one zone sooner. At least I think.
lmao bro, they don’t know the exact end zone of any giving game, they just have an idea of the multiple spot it my end at, as do most pros, it’s something they would still guess without “data mining”
hal did say they were making a vid for TSM when tempo was in the call. so probably this. also not surprising if they change the upload schedule for this lol
Bro u had to give it to them, the way they cover more ground and take actions and timing also plus Evan is so beautiful with that bow covering space and holding back the other teams,Hal proved that he is the best and know how to pick and stick him self with best shout out to Reps and Evan
I love yall n watching yall alot. I honestly mean this. You all ate the best in my opinion n when I'm playing world edge I'll use dis guide to help me in ranked.
@@joesisler3411 It's actually not. IF ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE WHY YOU STILL FEEL THE NEED TO DO IT IF YOU"RE SO MUCH BETTE ALSO. YOU SOUND LIKE A LITERAL BABOON
@@timchassen8419 you aren’t up to date with your own skill in apex. If you’re not in pro league or pred rank and have played with and against these guys stop commenting like you have any fuccin clue about anything.
Would love to see more of this, especially more thoughts on playing the anchor when a team does push up. Fuse is great but if a team full sends off a horizon Q/Ult, how does the anchor and teammates play in that situation? Aside from staying alive until your teammates show up
When you study the game a lot and play every single day you start to notice where zones tend to end. Use your brains! I love that TSM gets one good zone and everyone starts hating.😂
i can already see idiots discrediting everything TSM has done recently just because they use and analyze public knowledge lmao as if that makes it any easier. I rarely watch their competitive games and think to myself “damn tsm got a perfect endgame spot right away on this one” it’s almost always the opposite
even if the information is very powerful. It's not TSM or anyone's mistake that they discovered this information while breaking no rules. Even if the info was not tweeted on Twitter months ago, everyone who installed Apex has access to it. It's like a sport player that's hating on another player that knows how to take care of nutrition, rest, things outside the game that helped that player. Then he gets mad because that player doesn't share that info to him and that the game doesn't tell him that info.
I think I will stick with callofdutymobile I just don't really care for the Sci-Fi aspect I'm ADHD and too much to keep up with I just want regular guns and regular soldiers not mean I play the game it works really well but for as long as it's been out I feel like they could improve the graphics a lot by now
data mining is what noobs think makes you good. I seen TSM win 50-50 fights in ALGS against average noobs like NRG Sweet who ran away from HAL in the recent ALGS. Rake through pred like its pubs. Lets be honest Data mining is an excuse for the average pro.
First off it isn’t data mining technically. I like how haters just take a smudge of information and take it without understanding anything regarding said claim.
@@Ericson222 it wasn’t datamining that’s a different thing. What raven was able to get which is public information is where zones aren’t going to end. It’s a bit different and not to a T. He isn’t the only coach to have used it. Won’t always help. Thing is most good IGL’s can guess where zones end through play time. I mean TSM had done it prior to raven as well
@@MrSenorpepe bro Raven HIMSELF said it was data mining and no they are getting information that is not accessible unless you do it so no it’s a unfair advantage don’t ride tsms dick so hard
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You're trolling right?
do one of these with raven
Good video enjoyed y’all breaking down yalls ingame thought process
More @raven_apex please.
More of this but with raven
the timing is immaculate
Lmaooooo yup
I was just gonna say that
😂
LMAOO😂
why???
Would love to see another one of these with Raven included as well!
THIS ^
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I love How imperial is cute with his friends.
Evan: can we valk ult?
Imperial: we can't stupid shit.
Other teams - we delete our VOD so people don't steal our strats
TSM - explained their strat
Loved all the three perspectives being shared but personally I would like more insight into how an anchor / floater (Reps mostly) thinks in the midgame holding and rotations. Anchoring is probably one of the least focused roles and I think the community would benefit from these styles of breakdowns focusing on the less obvious roles and niches.
Apex TSM all day
These tips are just the tip of the iceberg. keep it up!
I see what you did there 😂
Yes. Absolutely more educational content for competition.
Truly wish I could just pick their brains as they're playing live to learn why they make a certain play and what info they used to determine it.
Obviously that won't happen, and as a team you don't want to give up the REAL knowledge for obvious reasons
there's no better time to release this 😂😂
please do more of these even though I know most of these basics it's still nice to see your thought process on this while it's playing out and the explaining of it make it very nice to watch, learn from so thank you for doing this
at what min is the datamining tutorial?
The timing. 😂😂😂
why what have i missed?
@@CRF250R1521 Yesterday other pro players found out that TSM Raven (TSM coach) was data mining zones so they new all the possible zones.
@@CRF250R1521 In the game files, there's a file that basically sets boundaries for where the center of the final ring cannot be. TSM Raven read the file or got someone to interpret the file and he created a map so TSM knows the areas where the game can't end on.
Combined with general experience on rings and pulling zones, this allows TSM to better predict where zones will end, which helps inform their positioning decisions.
This is a hot debate in the Apex competitive scene right now. I won't go into the opinions flying around because there are a lot of them.
@@kingoffongpei they’re either gonna let everyone data mine or make it so no one can but it’s pretty irresponsable of apex to leak them lol I believe it is the fault of the game developers tbh
@@NoelT04
Nope, he was getting datamined info (not datamining). And it was EXCLUSION zones, places the zone can't go sooo.. not "all possible zones"
(and this is publicly available data which at least several other of the largest ORGs have been using as well)
Good play of Jordan to offer the swap at the end but still having the sense to grab it himself when hal took too long. Evan staying alive too while he was pretty much 1v3 was massive
Very nice content i hope this become a series 💪💪
i love this breakdown from the different perspective of each team member. This particular match was an absolute banger to watch live but the way the boys are thinking out their strategies while reviewing the gameplay is absolute gold. It helps noobies like me understand the whys and hows. More stuff like this please! GG EZ Clap
TSM haters are born to see TSM winning 🔥
Great video. Would love to see more videos like this especially if they would include their coach raven
1:30 The reason we played outside dome is because we just had a strong intuition the zone was going to end there............ we just knew!
Lol
Every possible ending😂😂
0:59 why Evan scanning the beacon if they already know 👀👀
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I'm by no means an expert on this, but I think the datamined results show the possibilities where zone might end. At first, the possibilities are numerous, but the more it closes, the possibilities began to narrow. Once you scan, you have effectively decreased the number of possible endings or figured out exactly where it will end depending on the zone one zone sooner. At least I think.
@@thewarrior195why you should explain to these people that doesnt even know what data means,
@@apexzix ??
lmao bro, they don’t know the exact end zone of any giving game, they just have an idea of the multiple spot it my end at, as do most pros, it’s something they would still guess without “data mining”
I LOVE THE NEW STYLE, KEEP IT UP!!!!
Definitely give us more of those videos please!
There's no way this is coincidences right?
hal did say they were making a vid for TSM when tempo was in the call. so probably this. also not surprising if they change the upload schedule for this lol
ABSOLUTELY MORE EDUCATIONAL CONTENT!!! Learning about Anchoring and not getting pinched end game, etc. All super helpful!
We need more videos like this
This is something personal but I think this is the best vd I've seen about Apex. Keep on it.
Bro u had to give it to them, the way they cover more ground and take actions and timing also plus Evan is so beautiful with that bow covering space and holding back the other teams,Hal proved that he is the best and know how to pick and stick him self with best shout out to Reps and Evan
This actually helped the part about clearing our backs and not getting pinched helped us win an intense ranked game. TSM 4L. ✊🏾✨
Don't let the rest of the pro teams tell ya what to do guys. Yall good
This video was great!
Very helpful and also entertaining
this video was awesome! more like this please! btw Reps killing that pink shirt brother! yeowww
Yo this was actually a very insightful video
The most polished game I've seen of theirs! Wp!
More videos like this showing what's going through the guys heads while playing would be great!
2:10 No SHIT Evan 😂😂😂
I love yall n watching yall alot. I honestly mean this. You all ate the best in my opinion n when I'm playing world edge I'll use dis guide to help me in ranked.
TSM success fully attributed to data mined zone
I wanna see more like this
can you go in more depth of the zones next time?
There’s not much to say. They know so much about the zones because they play so much and therefore have played those zones before.
@@Shelmer75 I don’t know but I think they may have extra knowledge😂😂
@@sa1nts128 hahaha yeah I know. But if true, what, they’re going to do a video saying that? 😂 Teams have been picking zones for ages.
All three of them are just great humans
Great format!
How do they know so much about where zones are going to end?! It’s like they can see how the game is coded or something
It's like they played enough apex to make an educated guess
Because it's easy to predict? The whole thing going on atm is dumb and basically common knowledge lol
@@joesisler3411 It's actually not. IF ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE WHY YOU STILL FEEL THE NEED TO DO IT IF YOU"RE SO MUCH BETTE ALSO. YOU SOUND LIKE A LITERAL BABOON
Y’all aren’t up to date on the apex drama
@@timchassen8419 you aren’t up to date with your own skill in apex. If you’re not in pro league or pred rank and have played with and against these guys stop commenting like you have any fuccin clue about anything.
hahahah i loved the physics of the game when he said the arrows actually travel faster than the bullets. lmaoooo.
Bullets are pretty slow in this game. You can literally track Sentinel' and L Star bullets flying. And the Bocek mechanically assist you.
Would love to see more of this, especially more thoughts on playing the anchor when a team does push up.
Fuse is great but if a team full sends off a horizon Q/Ult, how does the anchor and teammates play in that situation?
Aside from staying alive until your teammates show up
Exactly what I’m trying to know
TSM ALL DAY BABY LET’S GO BOYS
more of these please!
Yeah this video was really cool
like this in support for raven
Lots of people act like recon legends cant scan for the ring anyway....... lol
fr even without the data its easy to predict where zone will end after scanning beacon
Excellent video
u forgot to show us how to datamine
Did you guys make this video for zachmazer?
They have to be trolling and I love that
This is good content
Are theynot using shotguns bcs the nerfs or mouse and key dif
WHERES THE DATAMINING TUTORIAL PLS THANKS
Cant tell if reps is wiping the sweat off his hands off the start or what....
2:08 really evan ? 🤔how did yall know?🧐
my man is still cosplaying one of wraiths legendary skin💀
more content like this
Where the spread sheet???
i enjoyed the video
5:01 , Datamined NRG spot. ezpz! SWEET hold that L.
excited to see how the play in NA! Oh…. wait
i love this
What about the cheat sheet😂
i fkin love reps
How to be a pro? DATAMINE
We just know where zone is lol
solid
We teach YOU how to Data Mine!
1:00 since we "datamine the game's files." 😘
When you study the game a lot and play every single day you start to notice where zones tend to end. Use your brains! I love that TSM gets one good zone and everyone starts hating.😂
u definately didn't hear the news xd
DATA MIND!
They don’t even teach how to mine game files for zone info and weapon spawns? LSM
i can already see idiots discrediting everything TSM has done recently just because they use and analyze public knowledge lmao as if that makes it any easier. I rarely watch their competitive games and think to myself “damn tsm got a perfect endgame spot right away on this one” it’s almost always the opposite
6:13 reptar trolling
Keep denying the knowledge. TSM on top baby!
Me tryna datamine some talent sadge
Just trying to get plat for once:(
I stand with TSM
is this the bootcamp?
even if the information is very powerful. It's not TSM or anyone's mistake that they discovered this information while breaking no rules. Even if the info was not tweeted on Twitter months ago, everyone who installed Apex has access to it.
It's like a sport player that's hating on another player that knows how to take care of nutrition, rest, things outside the game that helped that player. Then he gets mad because that player doesn't share that info to him and that the game doesn't tell him that info.
Bruh 😂😂😂 is this like intentional
Lol good time
Wasn’t hal trying to sell this video for like $50 or some shit? Lol
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I think I will stick with callofdutymobile I just don't really care for the Sci-Fi aspect I'm ADHD and too much to keep up with I just want regular guns and regular soldiers not mean I play the game it works really well but for as long as it's been out I feel like they could improve the graphics a lot by now
More more more education
Nothing like some verbal abuse from ImperialHal to get the festivities started.
if you know how to win why dont you do it?
Like winning with ravan's illegal datamined zone stuff nice😂😂
Oh ok. Just cheat. Got it now. Thanks Hal.
From what I understand the switch version of Apex was directly based off of the mobile version but yet it's f****** garbage
data mining is what noobs think makes you good. I seen TSM win 50-50 fights in ALGS against average noobs like NRG Sweet who ran away from HAL in the recent ALGS. Rake through pred like its pubs. Lets be honest Data mining is an excuse for the average pro.
Easy! By data mining the end zones thanks to coach right? 👀 Lmao
First off it isn’t data mining technically. I like how haters just take a smudge of information and take it without understanding anything regarding said claim.
@@MrSenorpepe oh really
@@Ericson222 it wasn’t datamining that’s a different thing. What raven was able to get which is public information is where zones aren’t going to end. It’s a bit different and not to a T. He isn’t the only coach to have used it. Won’t always help. Thing is most good IGL’s can guess where zones end through play time. I mean TSM had done it prior to raven as well
@@MrSenorpepe bro Raven HIMSELF said it was data mining and no they are getting information that is not accessible unless you do it so no it’s a unfair advantage don’t ride tsms dick so hard
Stop using the word "data mining" if you don't know what it really means. Also you can't see valid end zones, only invalid zones.
dont use zen noobs
People acting like beacons dont exist anymore. lol
people acting like you have a ton of beacons right on top of you to choose from. tell me you dont play apex without telling me you dont play apex
This is such poor timing, whoever runs this account is clearly out of touch.
watching what TSM controller noobs go play fifa....