Good general guide. A couple of points for newbies out there: the parts were rabbeted and the way they were lined up didn’t account for the rabbets or for the blade kerf. It’s a good idea to leave ⅛ to ¼ inch of clearance between parts when laying out on your virtual sheet. That way you ensure you can fit everything on your real material. I generally cut a little large in my rough cut, then trim down to final dimensions late. I also typically also trim off the factory edges on my plywood, which leaves me a sheet 1-2” shorter in all dimensions. So, make sure to leave yourself sufficient clearance when laying out your cut diagram.
Is there a special tool for adding those gaps guys? E.g. if I don’t know the exact thickness of saw it would be nice to “set all gaps” and input any digit depending on what saw is used?
It's too much work for me to lay an 1/8" gap between each piece. So I just count the number of cuts and make sure I leave enough space to the end of the sheet. Example 4 cuts is 1/2", so I just make sure I have at least that much to the end of the sheet. Also watch out on your plywood dimensions. Some suppliers sell a true 4x8, some a 1/2" bigger.
Thanks so much for your videos. I really enjoy when you encounter "issues" and describe how to resolve them. Such as how to cut then paste in place in order to get pieces out of your component. I often come across problems similar to that and don't know how to work around them. Thanks
Hi there - I'd never thought about that as being beneficial before, but I'm glad you like it and find it helpful! Honestly, I always feel a bit silly when I make a mistake on video, but now I feel a bit better about it - Thanks!
I also try to layout my parts on the sheet considering wood grain - and - all parts designed with the same dimension to be made with the same saw fence set-up to reduce variation. Thanks for the video!
Interesting - so you take a look at your piece of wood before you create a layout to make sure you're accounting for the wood grain? That's cool - I hadn't thought of that - thanks for the feedback!
This was a very good video. The only issue is that that thickness of the different materials are not the same. Sides are typically 3/4 for cabinet sides, and 1/2 inch thick for draw sides and 1/4 in thick for cabinet backs and draw bottoms.
Yeah, I know - that was actually how the GK Ware Cabinet Maker extension drew them, I just made them all the same thickness for the sake of quick video. That said, you're absolutely correct - you'd need to do a separate layout for each different material. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for the videos. I'm more than a few episodes in. The utility of Sketch Up is impressive. I'm trying to prepare a business plan and this program is helping with cost estimates and projected profit margins per project. Thank you
The problem I see with this layout is that it does not allow for the saw kerf. Cutting on these lines will make some of the parts too small while the adjoining part is too big. It also does not allow for fine tuning and jointing to remove saw marks . When I do a layout like this, I allow double my saw kerf between cuts and align the pieces so there is a single cut across/along the material. Guidelines help aligning and spacing for kerf. I place the larger pieces first along a common edge (allowing for the kerf between them), then fit the smaller pieces within the cut limits of the larger pieces. Taking the time to layout like this simplifies cutting, especially when cutting plywood.
Any way you can edit or post a supplement about how to 'optimize' the nesting, rather than manually laying it out? What if your project required 2, 5 or 10 pieces...the waste plywood can become substantial. Even better, is there an extension that does this that you would recommend. Ideally it would account for cut spacing (saw blade is 1/8"). Always a fan of your tutorials - your work has massively helped me get started with this program. thx!
Love it! Question. What if I worked from the 4x8 plywood sheet to build a cabinet? Taking pieces from the sheet as needed to build the cabinet. Would it be easier to know how much wood is required? Or because of your extension, it works better as in the video?
Hi there! I'm not 100% sure what you're asking... Are you talking about working backwards, cutting the actual pieces out of the sheet and building as you go? That would work, it's just a different workflow - I'd give it a try and see if you like it! :)
Can you explain how to adjust flat layout for different CNC machines used in the industry, their cutting tools used and bit sizes all so when the design CAM file and .dxf file can make the adjustments necessary and not cut into the next piece to far..
Draw a dividing line/rectangle to match your kerf and insert it between each object. This will give you ideas on cutting order to minimise alterations to saw fence settings.
Is that possible for you to explore the Open CutList plugin which developed by a French? They only have a French version tutorial which I couldn't comprehend (not only the language problem), but also how the component make-up, naming and material assignment affects the data computation.
Assuming I'm understanding your question properly - I'm not holding anything - I just doubled clicked inside the group, then selected the individual pieces I wanted to move and moved them around with the move tool. Does that make sense?
@@Thesketchupessentials Yep, that does make sense. Since you didn't explode that first drawer after moving it into your ply sheet outline, it made me wonder how you were moving the individual parts without the entire drawer moving with it. I mostly use solid wood, so this layout thing is even simpler -- just calculating board footage, so I don't have to worry about fitting things into ply sheets. Thanks for all your work on these vids!
Thanks for the great tutorial on this process. Is there a more efficient way to accomplish this or would investing in sketchup pro be worth while so that I can send my models to layout? I build models for all of the furniture I build and want a more efficient way to plan out my builds.
Hi Brad - Honestly, I'm not sure that Layout will help you with that unless you're planning on generating actual construction plans to build from. There are some extensions that create cutlists, but they're all paid and I haven't had a chance to test them out. If you're looking for a better option and don't mind spending money, that might be a better choice.
Thanks for your videos. They are awesome and I need to donate to you. You have saved me a lot of time and your videos are clear and succinct. This is off topic but is it possible that you could do a tutorial on annotations? I have been looking for welding symbols to annotate my drawings. The weld symbols are interesting because there is a standard way to show them. Thanks again for your clear videos.
Thanks Terry - glad you're finding the videos helpful! I talk a bit about annotations in this video - ua-cam.com/video/93iaw5BjOKo/v-deo.html - and about setting them on a layer to turn them on and off in this video - ua-cam.com/video/CaPqpyhGLBc/v-deo.html . However, I never really got super in depth with the annotation function itself. I'll try to cover those more completely in the next video I feature them in. Thanks again!
Hi great video. Question for some reason i cant copy my objects! i have each as a group but i try and try and not successful i do all the step and i can see my highlighted object move side to side and when i release it no copy!! all i do is move my item.. HELP Thanks in advance
I'd say probably 75-80% - all of the modeling methods remain largely the same between the free version and the desktop version. Functions like the outliner, extensions, and things like that are going to be different, but basic principles are going to be the same.
You haven't grouped your geometry so it's merging. Make sure you select the objects and right click and click "create group" before moving them together
@@sammysodapop They shouldn't. Are each of your parts SEPARATE components? Because if each of them is a separate component, there shouldn't be any merging of faces...
Excellent tutorials. I'm learning quite a bit from them. Would love to see how a storage unit with diamond shelves, such as the ones at Lion Brand Yarn Studio www.lionbrandyarnstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BDR_9252-684x1024.jpg, would be created in SketchUp. Thanks again for the excellent tutorial!
Good general guide. A couple of points for newbies out there: the parts were rabbeted and the way they were lined up didn’t account for the rabbets or for the blade kerf. It’s a good idea to leave ⅛ to ¼ inch of clearance between parts when laying out on your virtual sheet. That way you ensure you can fit everything on your real material. I generally cut a little large in my rough cut, then trim down to final dimensions late. I also typically also trim off the factory edges on my plywood, which leaves me a sheet 1-2” shorter in all dimensions. So, make sure to leave yourself sufficient clearance when laying out your cut diagram.
don't fore get to account for the thickness of the saw blade 1/8" for each cut
Thanks Vince - great point! This should be pretty easy to achieve using the move tool, but thanks for bringing it up!
watching video, and wondering what kind of magical kerfless saw he plans on using.
Is there a special tool for adding those gaps guys? E.g. if I don’t know the exact thickness of saw it would be nice to “set all gaps” and input any digit depending on what saw is used?
It's too much work for me to lay an 1/8" gap between each piece. So I just count the number of cuts and make sure I leave enough space to the end of the sheet. Example 4 cuts is 1/2", so I just make sure I have at least that much to the end of the sheet. Also watch out on your plywood dimensions. Some suppliers sell a true 4x8, some a 1/2" bigger.
This extension will take all that into account and is automatic.
extensions.sketchup.com/extension/e10bc77a-7a27-47ea-b6f0-773eef8a1fac/cut-list
Really helpful tutorials... It’s really helpful when you reference what key you’re pressing for shortcut.
Thanks so much for your videos. I really enjoy when you encounter "issues" and describe how to resolve them. Such as how to cut then paste in place in order to get pieces out of your component. I often come across problems similar to that and don't know how to work around them. Thanks
Hi there - I'd never thought about that as being beneficial before, but I'm glad you like it and find it helpful! Honestly, I always feel a bit silly when I make a mistake on video, but now I feel a bit better about it - Thanks!
@@Thesketchupessentials Nobody is perfect, and it shows that you are a real person like the rest of us.
I also try to layout my parts on the sheet considering wood grain - and - all parts designed with the same dimension to be made with the same saw fence set-up to reduce variation. Thanks for the video!
Interesting - so you take a look at your piece of wood before you create a layout to make sure you're accounting for the wood grain? That's cool - I hadn't thought of that - thanks for the feedback!
With the current lumber prices this is spot on!
This was helpful. I'm looking for ways to make a cut list from a sketchup model. This is one way. Thanks.
Well done! I am new to sketchup and this is within my ability. Thank you!
This was a very good video. The only issue is that that thickness of the different materials are not the same. Sides are typically 3/4 for cabinet sides, and 1/2 inch thick for draw sides and 1/4 in thick for cabinet backs and draw bottoms.
Yeah, I know - that was actually how the GK Ware Cabinet Maker extension drew them, I just made them all the same thickness for the sake of quick video. That said, you're absolutely correct - you'd need to do a separate layout for each different material. Thanks for the feedback!
Good video, Thanks, I am watching a lot of these and really enjoying them. Do you have a video for a cutlist extension? Thanks
Thank you for the videos. I'm more than a few episodes in. The utility of Sketch Up is impressive. I'm trying to prepare a business plan and this program is helping with cost estimates and projected profit margins per project. Thank you
Awesome - really glad you're liking the videos!
This was perfect, just what I was looking for. Thanks for the helpful tutorial!
Very good and simplistic
So helpful. You're an excellent teacher
thanks for the lesson.
The problem I see with this layout is that it does not allow for the saw kerf. Cutting on these lines will make some of the parts too small while the adjoining part is too big. It also does not allow for fine tuning and jointing to remove saw marks . When I do a layout like this, I allow double my saw kerf between cuts and align the pieces so there is a single cut across/along the material. Guidelines help aligning and spacing for kerf. I place the larger pieces first along a common edge (allowing for the kerf between them), then fit the smaller pieces within the cut limits of the larger pieces. Taking the time to layout like this simplifies cutting, especially when cutting plywood.
Any way you can edit or post a supplement about how to 'optimize' the nesting, rather than manually laying it out? What if your project required 2, 5 or 10 pieces...the waste plywood can become substantial. Even better, is there an extension that does this that you would recommend. Ideally it would account for cut spacing (saw blade is 1/8").
Always a fan of your tutorials - your work has massively helped me get started with this program. thx!
@Jason Dagenais - extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/lair-du-bois-sketchup-toolbox-0
Love it! Question. What if I worked from the 4x8 plywood sheet to build a cabinet? Taking pieces from the sheet as needed to build the cabinet. Would it be easier to know how much wood is required? Or because of your extension, it works better as in the video?
Hi there! I'm not 100% sure what you're asking... Are you talking about working backwards, cutting the actual pieces out of the sheet and building as you go? That would work, it's just a different workflow - I'd give it a try and see if you like it! :)
yep exactly what i was trying to say. Making the sheet first, then cutting pieces out of it. Giving it a try now. Thanks for the tip!
Can you explain how to adjust flat layout for different CNC machines used in the industry, their cutting tools used and bit sizes all so when the design CAM file and .dxf file can make the adjustments necessary and not cut into the next piece to far..
I wold have inserted a small piece between the pieces for the thickness of the circular saw. Sometimes every mm counts.
Draw a dividing line/rectangle to match your kerf and insert it between each object. This will give you ideas on cutting order to minimise alterations to saw fence settings.
Is that possible for you to explore the Open CutList plugin which developed by a French? They only have a French version tutorial which I couldn't comprehend (not only the language problem), but also how the component make-up, naming and material assignment affects the data computation.
Appears to be a bit laborious, is there some fold out plugin?
Excellent and very helpful
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
What are you holding to move the individual pieces of the component without the entire component moving? Is that a shift+move operation?
Assuming I'm understanding your question properly - I'm not holding anything - I just doubled clicked inside the group, then selected the individual pieces I wanted to move and moved them around with the move tool. Does that make sense?
@@Thesketchupessentials Yep, that does make sense. Since you didn't explode that first drawer after moving it into your ply sheet outline, it made me wonder how you were moving the individual parts without the entire drawer moving with it. I mostly use solid wood, so this layout thing is even simpler -- just calculating board footage, so I don't have to worry about fitting things into ply sheets.
Thanks for all your work on these vids!
Thanks for the great tutorial on this process. Is there a more efficient way to accomplish this or would investing in sketchup pro be worth while so that I can send my models to layout? I build models for all of the furniture I build and want a more efficient way to plan out my builds.
Hi Brad - Honestly, I'm not sure that Layout will help you with that unless you're planning on generating actual construction plans to build from. There are some extensions that create cutlists, but they're all paid and I haven't had a chance to test them out. If you're looking for a better option and don't mind spending money, that might be a better choice.
Thanks for your videos. They are awesome and I need to donate to you. You have saved me a lot of time and your videos are clear and succinct. This is off topic but is it possible that you could do a tutorial on annotations? I have been looking for welding symbols to annotate my drawings. The weld symbols are interesting because there is a standard way to show them. Thanks again for your clear videos.
Thanks Terry - glad you're finding the videos helpful! I talk a bit about annotations in this video - ua-cam.com/video/93iaw5BjOKo/v-deo.html - and about setting them on a layer to turn them on and off in this video - ua-cam.com/video/CaPqpyhGLBc/v-deo.html . However, I never really got super in depth with the annotation function itself. I'll try to cover those more completely in the next video I feature them in. Thanks again!
Hi
Can you help me to installer extension openculist...please.
Thanks.
Hi, Great Video, is there a way to set the kerf of the saw blade to all components automatically?
I guess the short answer would be no, not in the way you're thinking. You'd probably have to find a way to manually add that in. Sorry about that
Just put them an eight of an inch apart. So line up the item then move .125 on axis away.
Yes, the standard kerf for a table or a track saw is .125.
Hi great video. Question for some reason i cant copy my objects! i have each as a group but i try and try and not successful i do all the step and i can see my highlighted object move side to side and when i release it no copy!! all i do is move my item.. HELP Thanks in advance
Did you tap the control key when you move your object to turn on copy mode?
@@Thesketchupessentials Bingo!! ;) thanks
what programme are you using to sketch up?
I don't understand the question
Sketchup is the name of the programme
don't forget the thickness of blade cut kefir
You are using paid version right? How much of what you teach in these videos applies to the free version?
I'd say probably 75-80% - all of the modeling methods remain largely the same between the free version and the desktop version. Functions like the outliner, extensions, and things like that are going to be different, but basic principles are going to be the same.
Greate
Cutting list and then cutting optimization software .
What about them?
my parts seem to merge when i move them together, what am i messing up?
You haven't grouped your geometry so it's merging. Make sure you select the objects and right click and click "create group" before moving them together
Thank you I thought with them being components it wouldn’t merge. It’s a little confusing
@@sammysodapop They shouldn't. Are each of your parts SEPARATE components? Because if each of them is a separate component, there shouldn't be any merging of faces...
Why not use the Sketchup " *Open Cutlist* "-Extension?
extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/lair-du-bois-sketchup-toolbox-0
As far as I know, that's a paid extension - for many people especially hobbyists you don't need something like that for a simple layout
there is an extensio for this you need to do all of this.
Which one?
@@Thesketchupessentials , Hi,
Extenrsion name is Cutlist 4.1 i will be watching your tutorials thanks for tutorials.
Excellent tutorials. I'm learning quite a bit from them. Would love to see how a storage unit with diamond shelves, such as the ones at Lion Brand Yarn Studio www.lionbrandyarnstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BDR_9252-684x1024.jpg, would be created in SketchUp. Thanks again for the excellent tutorial!
Got it - I'll get something similar on the list - thanks!
Dude , what is this ... use align plugins ... lol
Sure, you could do that as well. A lot of woodworkers and beginners don't really want to learn how to use plugins, and this method works for everyone.