The fight between Vader and Reva was really well done in my opinion. The fact Vader can just use the force and effortlessly dodge revas attacks just shows how strong he is. And then he slows down her lightsaber and takes it out her hands. Only to give her it back, he’s just toying with her, hoping for a worthy battle. But doesn’t feel it’s worth using his own saber and just use hers. Probably one of my highlights of the show
I like how the flashbacks are being remembered by Vader in this episode. Obi Wan often reminisces about the final confrontation between him and Anakin, but Vader seems fixated on the duel Anakin had with Obi Wan as a padawan. Vader might see the loss of that duel as an extension of why he lost on Mustafar. Vader is ironically actually trying to listen Obi Wan’s teaching, while at the same time, completely failing to actually understand the lesson. He’s not trying to prove himself to Obi Wan anymore and thinks that enough to surpass him. However, now he’s trying to prove it to himself. Later on in ANH, we see Vader say to Kenobi on the Death Star that he was but a “learner” last time they met, now he is the “master”. Vader is no longer consumed by the defeat, and he taunts and toys with “Old Ben” while being confident in himself. But as we all know, even though Vader wins on the Death Star, that victory is hollow because, while Vader saw value in being a “master”, Kenobi saw value in remaining teachable (eventually becoming one with the Living Force and more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine).
I have to admit I never perceived the flashbacks as either Obi-Wan or Vader remembering the sparring match, but more how even all these years later neither had truly changed with both sharing the same strengths and weaknesses
@@josephtingley654 - exactly, Vader never heeded the lessons which is why he never beat Kenobi. Like in the flashback or their clash on Mustafar, Obi always thought 3 moves ahead so whenever he seemed defeated, he was able to turn the tables using Anakin's rage and impatience to his advantage. The flashback was basically a blueprint for every battle after it. Even on the Death Star when Kenobi was past his prime, he already won before the duel even began becuz his mission wasn't to kill Vader but to destroy the Death Star and keep his rage focused on him so Luke and Leia could escape - "there are other ways to fight"
Yes, this was absolutely Darth Vader at the peak of his power. As for how easily he handled Riva, consider this. Darth Vader taught the Inquisitors everything they knew, but he didn't teach him everything Anakin Skywalker knew. Thus, Riva was unable to touch him. However, Anakin Skywalker did teach Ahsoka Tano everything he knew, and as you saw in Tales of the Jedi, Ahsoka was able to handle an Inquisitor with no effort. One more thing. If you ever go back and watch the first episode again, you will note that young Riva is the first face that the camera focuses on.
This was a good point, but one thing to focus on. This wasn't Vader at his peak, Vader at this point isn't any where near as powerful as he was in eps4-6.
The survival of the grand inquisitor was important (not only because he appears in a later star wars show). Because Obi-Wan's plan would have worked. When Vader was so focused on him, he wouldn't see an attack from behind coming. The force can't help you if you are distracted. But the grand inquisitor survived and told Vader about what Reeva did to him and since then, Vader was expecting a betrayal from her at some point.
The Grand Inquisitor didn't have to tell Vader anything. Vader explicitly tells her he knew exactly who she was that entire time and why she was there: "Did you really believe I did not see it, youngling?"
This was an amazing episode. RIP Talie and robo buddy, you will be missed. Evil Lola was just the most adorable thing ever, it was like getting attacked by an angry kitten. This episode made me feel really bad for Reva, the actress did an amazing job with the character and I want to see her return. She wasn't evil or a monster like the inquisitor or grandpa palps, she was just a traumatized kid who wanted revenge for her friends.
I agree, I find Reva fascinating and heartbreaking. When you think about what witnessing that kind of violence can do to children in the real world, the fact that she is such a raw nerve of anger makes so much sense. I almost wish we'd gotten a better hint of her backstory earlier in the series, because a lot of viewers just did not get her early on (though there were theories). By the time we found out, it may have been too late for some to get on board with her character.
I think a lot of Anakin's impatience, especially in the flashback training, stems from the fact he was called a Chosen One for ~10 years straight since Qui-Gon first discovered him. That title implies being 'The Best': the most skilled duelist, the most powerful with the Force, etc. and I think he put a lot of pressure on himself to live up to that expectation. I wish the scene at the end of the training addressed some that from his POV. Still, it was great to see Hayden & Ewan back in the Ep 2 live-action era as if 20 years later was no time at all!
I love Reva. I think she was a great character! There was a lot of hate when the show was airing (unsurprising), but I thought the character was so much fun
Peak Vader? Maybe in terms of movies/shows but in the comics he’s done some pretty big stuff, like mind tricking a giant squid while holding back the Mon Cala ocean.
4:19 I like Bail Organa and Jimmy Smits in general, but Bail was exceedingly stupid here. What possible reason is there to mention Owen and Tatooine explicitly? Just say "I'll check on the other one" or something like that-it would be perfectly clear to Obi-wan but not clear to anyone eavesdropping.
I honestly have to wonder if the plot twist to make Reva secretly hunting Vader was the plan from the beginning, or if it was a mid-filming decision due to rewrites or whatever. It comes from so far out of left field it was jarring.
A lot of Reva’s moments make more sense when viewed in a rewatch (such as when she clutches her stab wound in episode 3, or the way she instantly tenses up when interacting with Vader). So it was definitely planned in pre production. Reva did also had the same backstory in the original drafts (back when the show was going to be a film). However, she didn’t know Vader was Anakin, so she was more focused on getting revenge on Obi-Wan until he revealed Vader’s identity to her.
Ladies and gentlemen, Darth [bleep]ing Vader! Literal child of The Force. Highest Midichlorian count (in live action anyway. Not too familiar with the expanded universe). THE strongest force user. Peak Vader = Best Vader.
Some of the writing in this series is just so bad. They spend how long blasting that door with massive guns and all they needed to do was walk up and stick a lightsaber through it?
So now a child can survive a lightsaber to the gut and then a second time by vader. Quite remarkable these lighsabers and their ability to survive a giant hole straight through the torso. 3rd sisters character writing leaves me conflited, not sure if a lot of people liked her.
she wasnt stabbed as a child, that was her trauma causing her to imagine it when Vader stabbed her now as an adult. And she survived in this episode by tapping into the dark side and her quest for revenge, just like how Maul survived getting chopped in half or how Anakin survived getting thrown in lava and half his body getting chopped off
Kids sometimes survive school shootings despite being shot numerous times. As for the second time, I don't think Vader was trying to kill her, he was trying to humiliate her. He didn't need to have a lightsaber fight with her at all, he could've just killed her in an instant. But he was toying with her because he knew all along who she was. He knew that her sole purpose in life, the thing she had spent almost her whole life trying to do, was to kill him. All her work and cunning and pretending was for nothing, and now he was going to show her how powerless she really was the whole time and leave her with nothing. She was dying a second time, and he was literally reopening her old wounds.
This show is fantastic considering everyone had to carry the Reva character every scene she's in. She's like the Yoko Ono of star wars. Tbh I was just mad she survived 2 impalements by Anakin while Qui Gon couldn't.
I thought Reva was interesting (though foolish), and Ingams' acting was fine. It does bother me that lightsaber stabs through the torso don't matter anymore, though. (That applies to the G. Inq. as well.)
She didnt get impaled as a child, that was her trauma causing her to imagine it. And she survived her because she tapped into the dark side. Just because she wasn't loyal to Vader and the Empire, doesnt mean she still wasnt a dark side user. It's the same way Maul survived getting chopped in half
Kids sometimes survive school shootings despite being shot numerous times. As for the second time, I don't think Vader was trying to kill her, he was trying to humiliate her. He didn't need to have a lightsaber fight with her at all, he could've just killed her in an instant. But he was toying with her because he knew all along who she was. He knew that her sole purpose in life, the thing she had spent almost her whole life trying to do, was to kill him. All her work and cunning and pretending was for nothing, and now he was going to show her how powerless she really was the whole time and leave her with nothing. She was dying a second time, and he was literally reopening her old wounds.
The fight between Vader and Reva was really well done in my opinion. The fact Vader can just use the force and effortlessly dodge revas attacks just shows how strong he is. And then he slows down her lightsaber and takes it out her hands. Only to give her it back, he’s just toying with her, hoping for a worthy battle. But doesn’t feel it’s worth using his own saber and just use hers. Probably one of my highlights of the show
Apart from the fact that she survived. I loved her in this episode
She was practice 😛
I like how the flashbacks are being remembered by Vader in this episode. Obi Wan often reminisces about the final confrontation between him and Anakin, but Vader seems fixated on the duel Anakin had with Obi Wan as a padawan.
Vader might see the loss of that duel as an extension of why he lost on Mustafar. Vader is ironically actually trying to listen Obi Wan’s teaching, while at the same time, completely failing to actually understand the lesson. He’s not trying to prove himself to Obi Wan anymore and thinks that enough to surpass him. However, now he’s trying to prove it to himself.
Later on in ANH, we see Vader say to Kenobi on the Death Star that he was but a “learner” last time they met, now he is the “master”. Vader is no longer consumed by the defeat, and he taunts and toys with “Old Ben” while being confident in himself. But as we all know, even though Vader wins on the Death Star, that victory is hollow because, while Vader saw value in being a “master”, Kenobi saw value in remaining teachable (eventually becoming one with the Living Force and more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine).
I have to admit I never perceived the flashbacks as either Obi-Wan or Vader remembering the sparring match, but more how even all these years later neither had truly changed with both sharing the same strengths and weaknesses
To be fair, was he ever really the master, considering that even in the end, he still didn't learn the lesson? LoL
@@josephtingley654 - exactly, Vader never heeded the lessons which is why he never beat Kenobi. Like in the flashback or their clash on Mustafar, Obi always thought 3 moves ahead so whenever he seemed defeated, he was able to turn the tables using Anakin's rage and impatience to his advantage. The flashback was basically a blueprint for every battle after it. Even on the Death Star when Kenobi was past his prime, he already won before the duel even began becuz his mission wasn't to kill Vader but to destroy the Death Star and keep his rage focused on him so Luke and Leia could escape - "there are other ways to fight"
Reva: Where were you when Anakin was killing my friends?
Obi-Wan: Sorry Reva, I was riding a big lizard.
Yes, this was absolutely Darth Vader at the peak of his power. As for how easily he handled Riva, consider this. Darth Vader taught the Inquisitors everything they knew, but he didn't teach him everything Anakin Skywalker knew. Thus, Riva was unable to touch him. However, Anakin Skywalker did teach Ahsoka Tano everything he knew, and as you saw in Tales of the Jedi, Ahsoka was able to handle an Inquisitor with no effort.
One more thing. If you ever go back and watch the first episode again, you will note that young Riva is the first face that the camera focuses on.
Good way of putting it Steven
This was a good point, but one thing to focus on. This wasn't Vader at his peak, Vader at this point isn't any where near as powerful as he was in eps4-6.
The survival of the grand inquisitor was important (not only because he appears in a later star wars show).
Because Obi-Wan's plan would have worked. When Vader was so focused on him, he wouldn't see an attack from behind coming. The force can't help you if you are distracted.
But the grand inquisitor survived and told Vader about what Reeva did to him and since then, Vader was expecting a betrayal from her at some point.
The Grand Inquisitor didn't have to tell Vader anything. Vader explicitly tells her he knew exactly who she was that entire time and why she was there: "Did you really believe I did not see it, youngling?"
The lightsaber duel had to be reshot a number of times, because they both kept breaking in to big grins. 😁
This was an amazing episode. RIP Talie and robo buddy, you will be missed. Evil Lola was just the most adorable thing ever, it was like getting attacked by an angry kitten. This episode made me feel really bad for Reva, the actress did an amazing job with the character and I want to see her return. She wasn't evil or a monster like the inquisitor or grandpa palps, she was just a traumatized kid who wanted revenge for her friends.
I agree, I find Reva fascinating and heartbreaking. When you think about what witnessing that kind of violence can do to children in the real world, the fact that she is such a raw nerve of anger makes so much sense. I almost wish we'd gotten a better hint of her backstory earlier in the series, because a lot of viewers just did not get her early on (though there were theories). By the time we found out, it may have been too late for some to get on board with her character.
"Where were you when he was attacking my friends?"
If you must know on Utapau getting shot at by Cody
I loved seeing those Prequel era lightsaber moves! Ewan and Hayden hadn't lost a single step after all these years
I think a lot of Anakin's impatience, especially in the flashback training, stems from the fact he was called a Chosen One for ~10 years straight since Qui-Gon first discovered him. That title implies being 'The Best': the most skilled duelist, the most powerful with the Force, etc. and I think he put a lot of pressure on himself to live up to that expectation. I wish the scene at the end of the training addressed some that from his POV.
Still, it was great to see Hayden & Ewan back in the Ep 2 live-action era as if 20 years later was no time at all!
Ah, it warms the heart to see you wearing the Darth Vader necklace again, Jess. And for this episode, too, which is most appropriate. It's great.
Darth Vader’s inner troll came out when he fought Reva. He did not even use his weapon once.
I love Reva. I think she was a great character! There was a lot of hate when the show was airing (unsurprising), but I thought the character was so much fun
Deserved hate
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She’s finally doing Rebels? Straight W
Nice
Sesskasays looking so good she could make Obi One say 'Duchess Satine' who?
This was the best episode of the show. The flashbacks and the reva vs vader fight were amazing.
Peak Vader? Maybe in terms of movies/shows but in the comics he’s done some pretty big stuff, like mind tricking a giant squid while holding back the Mon Cala ocean.
Yes!!!!! Word's cant tell you the smile that was on me and many Fan's seeing Hayden Christensen and Ewan Mcgregor episode 2 again 💙❤🌋🤘
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@@visitorzeta1669 Hello there Visitor long time no see lol
"Owen will need help with the boy." Bail is just a great guy in this show.
It's fun to see Ewan and Hayden in Episode 2 garb dueling
Viewers: man UA-cam recommendations are being boring
Kenobi Clips: *Hello There!*
“How do you know?”
“I might have trained him”
Those flashbacks really hit. Also you look great. Love that necklace.
I really liked what you said about guilt and applying it to Obi-Wan and Anakin.
Revenge is a powerful force for dark side force users that’s how Maul survived that’s how Reva survived.
4:19 I like Bail Organa and Jimmy Smits in general, but Bail was exceedingly stupid here. What possible reason is there to mention Owen and Tatooine explicitly? Just say "I'll check on the other one" or something like that-it would be perfectly clear to Obi-wan but not clear to anyone eavesdropping.
I’ve never heard anyone use the word penultimate in my entire life until now
OMG I can't wait for the next episode!!!!
I honestly have to wonder if the plot twist to make Reva secretly hunting Vader was the plan from the beginning, or if it was a mid-filming decision due to rewrites or whatever. It comes from so far out of left field it was jarring.
A lot of Reva’s moments make more sense when viewed in a rewatch (such as when she clutches her stab wound in episode 3, or the way she instantly tenses up when interacting with Vader). So it was definitely planned in pre production.
Reva did also had the same backstory in the original drafts (back when the show was going to be a film). However, she didn’t know Vader was Anakin, so she was more focused on getting revenge on Obi-Wan until he revealed Vader’s identity to her.
This episode is good! The Riva Vader Fight, SO Good!! You feel for her.
I can't wait to see the look on your face when you watch Next weeks! OMG!
Not a entirely full powered Vader, the corridor scene at the end of Rogue One, that was peak Vader
Ladies and gentlemen, Darth [bleep]ing Vader!
Literal child of The Force.
Highest Midichlorian count (in live action anyway. Not too familiar with the expanded universe).
THE strongest force user.
Peak Vader = Best Vader.
Can't wait for the next one! 🖤🖤🖤
Hayden, baby!!!!!!!!!!
may the force be with you xoxoxoxoxoxo
It doesn't seem to me that reva's revenge is for the jedi. I think it's much more against anakin.
What's going to come after Obi-Wan Kenobi? Have you decided yet?
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I wish Vader killed Reva like he killled Dooku. But nopenthey eqntes to keep her alive for...some reason
Vadey Vade!!!
Why shake the camera during a lightsaber duel? Keep it still!
Gorgeous lady!
Some of the writing in this series is just so bad. They spend how long blasting that door with massive guns and all they needed to do was walk up and stick a lightsaber through it?
You are absolutely gorgeous ❤❤❤❤
So now a child can survive a lightsaber to the gut and then a second time by vader. Quite remarkable these lighsabers and their ability to survive a giant hole straight through the torso. 3rd sisters character writing leaves me conflited, not sure if a lot of people liked her.
she wasnt stabbed as a child, that was her trauma causing her to imagine it when Vader stabbed her now as an adult. And she survived in this episode by tapping into the dark side and her quest for revenge, just like how Maul survived getting chopped in half or how Anakin survived getting thrown in lava and half his body getting chopped off
Kids sometimes survive school shootings despite being shot numerous times. As for the second time, I don't think Vader was trying to kill her, he was trying to humiliate her. He didn't need to have a lightsaber fight with her at all, he could've just killed her in an instant. But he was toying with her because he knew all along who she was. He knew that her sole purpose in life, the thing she had spent almost her whole life trying to do, was to kill him. All her work and cunning and pretending was for nothing, and now he was going to show her how powerless she really was the whole time and leave her with nothing. She was dying a second time, and he was literally reopening her old wounds.
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This show is fantastic considering everyone had to carry the Reva character every scene she's in. She's like the Yoko Ono of star wars.
Tbh I was just mad she survived 2 impalements by Anakin while Qui Gon couldn't.
I thought Reva was interesting (though foolish), and Ingams' acting was fine. It does bother me that lightsaber stabs through the torso don't matter anymore, though. (That applies to the G. Inq. as well.)
Must be rough getting in your own way like this
She didnt get impaled as a child, that was her trauma causing her to imagine it. And she survived her because she tapped into the dark side. Just because she wasn't loyal to Vader and the Empire, doesnt mean she still wasnt a dark side user. It's the same way Maul survived getting chopped in half
@@ThetaSigma-vu1sk Nothing indicates that in the show.
Kids sometimes survive school shootings despite being shot numerous times. As for the second time, I don't think Vader was trying to kill her, he was trying to humiliate her. He didn't need to have a lightsaber fight with her at all, he could've just killed her in an instant. But he was toying with her because he knew all along who she was. He knew that her sole purpose in life, the thing she had spent almost her whole life trying to do, was to kill him. All her work and cunning and pretending was for nothing, and now he was going to show her how powerless she really was the whole time and leave her with nothing. She was dying a second time, and he was literally reopening her old wounds.