If you have upset an agent, try to sign a few of his free players or cheapest ones he has, then the relationship swings back to friendly, get the player you actually want, then delay confirmation on the others, they will cancel the deal and your up a good relationship and got the player you wanted 👌🏻
I have accidentally signed quite a lot of gems like that lol. I once tried to sign Everton for... Everton, but his manager didn't like me so I checked his other players. I found a regen wonder kid priced 5M that was even better and him and I ended up selling him for 100+ millions to Barcelona the next season! He also played decently well...
18:07 I hate having sell on fees on my contracts, the only way I have found to avoid this is in the very first step of wage negotiation (Unless the agent immediately presents a locked sell on fee) I add one myself and before I suggest the offer, I go to the drop down arrow on that clause and select "Exclude from negotiation". This makes it so that, from that moment on, that clause cannot be inserted into the negotiations by the agent, but you are still able to reintroduce it, if you change your mind. The catch is, because of this the agent will usually demand a bigger wage or "water" in the contract, but in my case I usually prefer to pay a bit higher wages to a young player and later on cash in the totality of the sell value, because that's how I make big money. Hope it helps!
I also use the per/year format for wages. I manage in Romania, so that way at least the numbers look a bit brighter. Also, I remember back in FM 12 I was really desperate to keep a forward in my team that I gave him a 50% yearly wage raise on a 4-5 year contract. And then, when I realized he was getting me bankrupted, I tried selling him and no team would take him. Fun memories...
Usually to avoid high sell-on fees for agents that tend to do that, i lock in a 5% sell-on fee on the profits (not the overall fee) and that is the cheapest way to get around it. will always be accepted and is a good bonus in the negotiations.
Always do contract start date for the start of the following season. Delays the player getting an immediate hike in wages and you then get him for another year at his current wages 😎 Can be helpful in tight financial situations
One more tip that I've found incredibly useful, especially with developing players: look ahead. If this is a player that you are definitely going to want/need to renew contracts with at some point, and you know you want them on your team next season, it will be cheaper to negotiate right away, particularly if they're going to be a better player next year. Get them to sign a contract starting at the end of the season, and do it early. This gives you two MAJOR benefits: 1) They will ask for a cheaper contract now than they will in 8 months. 2) When the next beginning-of-season transfer window opens, they have just signed a new contract, and won't want to move. Re-read that second one again. You read right. Those pesky 'Wnt' conditions, where Liverpool, Man City, and PSG all want to make a move for your wonderkid just when he's starting to get good? They become irrelevant for that transfer window. You get to keep your best young players (at least until the mid-season transfer window). Do note, however, that the 'just signed a new contract' effect doesn't start until the contract takes effect. If you're in early October, and you think big clubs will make a move for your player in January, then there's a chance you won't be able to hold on to them then. In that case, offering them an immediate contract might be the better option, even if it hurts. If you think you can dodge your way out of this transfer window (good relationship, great captain to intervene, the player is an influencial part of a social group and is happy about it - check the player's Happiness screen), the end-of-season contract might very well be your best bet. Something that can trip you up as well is if there is significant interest from other clubs already. In this case, the player might not be interested in negotiating at all. DO NOT DESPAIR. I have yet to find in FM22 that I can't swing it at some point if I offer it often enough. If the team is playing well, and morale is high, you might be able to get it done regardless. Dynamics, baby!
I always try the optional 3 year extention for wonderkids. That way they have a contract for 8 years. I have some worldbeaters in my team on 30k a year 😅
@@KGHHC Genuine question, how are they doing morale-wise? Are they super angry that you're not renewing contracts? Do you get around the morale issues and bids from bigger clubs in some clever way? Because I did the trick you described in previous editions, but I gave up on it pretty early in FM22 - perhaps wrongly so?
@@79AlienFinger79 Yeah sometimes that can get difficult but most get persuaded by one of the team leaders not to ask for a new contract. And if they still want a contract you can say "X also asked for a improved contract but he let it drop" or you can say "you still have a long way to go on your contract". It rarely happens that they are still upset but they can't do much if they still have 6 years left on their contract 😅
Funnily enough I do the exact same thing as you and been doing it since 21. I’ve found that if they’ve signed a pre agreement, if big clubs want and bid for them before the contract kicks in you are able to decline all those transfers without getting them upset.
@@tomiwa2410 The thing I like the most is having absolute world-class players of 26 years old on your team with only 25k salary per week. It's kind of a cheat code
I'm still on 21, but there another good thing is that the general manager can be really good at breaking down promise barriers, and if you want to edit the length or something else in the deal, you can negoitate that without dealing with the promises.
One of the most OP feature in contracts options is the extension option (1, 2, 3 years). First, you get the player in your club up to 8 years maximum, but more, it will make it easier to calm him down if he wants to leave for a better club. When you activate the extension, ANY club interested won't be anymore (Even if he is a primary target of them for years), so the player will calm down and you will be able to sign him to another contract down the line..... and apply the same trick!!!
With new signings, you can lower the signing bonus by just raising the Agent's fee a little. If the agent says the player wants a 8M signing bonus, and an 800k agent's fee, you can bump up the agent's fee to 1.2M and lower the player's signing fee to something like 4.5M You can thank me later ;)
There's one thing that I do which I don't see a lot of people commenting about- Adding optional extension to the contract. I go for 3 years. And they accept it most of the time. So it is 5 years + 3 optional years and sometime even 1 year extension on the last year. This way I can have a player for 8-9 years on a single contract.
@@marcohardianto6629 yea. But theres a trick I follow. If you trigger optional extension the other extensions just vanish. But if you wait for league games extension to trigger on its own the optional extension remains as it is. And even if you're not able to use both of them still you'll have the player for 8 years.
Wages per year makes so much more sense! I played on weekly since FM 12 before finding your twitch channel around FM20 and when I tried it out myself it blew my mind how much better it was. Allocating money between transfer and wage, calculating how much money you will get after a player sale etc. On weekly wages you can easily get caught out paying players way too much instead of signing players on higher transfer fees but on lower wages. If you're still playing on weekly/monthly you should definitely try per year for a save. Ze you should make a video on this!
In Spain and a few other countries there's a compulsory release clause. If you want to reduce wages just reduce release clause of the player. PS: this works only if you think the release clause already fixed by the agent is quite high. (eg - I'm okay with 130m release clause for my wonderkid instead of 150m. I'm absolutely fine with it boy)
Best tip I've got is to give 50% of next transfer to go to both club and player, for when you want a top player that you know you'll be using until they die out. I've got both Mbappe and Haaland in the 1st transfer window, paying like 13M upfront, 58M in installments and 3-5M in bonuses. I know I won't be selling them and when they are 34-35 and no longer useful, I'm happy to just get them off my wage list.
I enjoyed watching Zealand get excited about a USL1 shirt! I've got every shirt (except the 2 that released when I was a broke college student) from my local USL1 club!
Little tip for you all - when signing a player, change the signing on fee to £1. As long as the wage is correct, they will always accept it. I've even got away with offering £0 but £1 is nailed on to work.
Hey Zealand, thx for your quality videos! In FM 23 they changed a thing I absolutely hate. When I signed a new starter, like a top striker, i always removed as much bonus payments as possible. No appearance fee, nothing for scoring goals and so on because when you know he will play 30-40 games and will score most of your goals its so much cheaper to give him a bit more salary. In FM 23 I often had the issue that they were fine with a contract but cancelled it some time after because a special fee was missing. Hate it.
On the sell-on fee, I'm not sure if you can get rid of it entirely, but if you want to reduce it the same trick I use to raise minimum fee release clauses might work. So if you know the agent is going to lock a release clause: 1) Instruct DoF to negotiate 2) Go to 'Change Contract Offer' 3) You can't add/remove clauses but you can raise the release clause as high as you like, and probably lower the sell on fee too. I always add some more water in the other cups when I do this. 4) You can't lock individual clauses doing this, so set the entire contract to non-negotiable.
haven't had to use it as much, but a nice (but sometimes expensive) trick to get a really good deal on the table and have it accepted is to pay the agent a lot more than they would expect. This obviously depends on their own personality, but more often than not more money for them "suddenly" makes them like your offer more.
I do contracts differently to a lot of people it seems. I'd rather pay someone £85,000 a week with no bonuses at all than pay someone £60,000 a week with a ton of bonuses. Because of the league I'm in (BAN save with Gibraltar) and the strength of my team, it would cripple me financially with bonuses given that my striker could easily bang in 5 goals a game or my winger could easily chip in with 4 assists. Don't wanna be paying that striker £10k per goal or that winger £8k per assist if I can help it.
The second role thing is very specific, bigger clubs need dedicated staff roles so it will often determine the staff member to be too busy with their main role to take a side role. Also just fyi, you'll need to offer them the wages for both positions and a little extra for working them to the bone so it isn't cheap, you can usually save money by filling both positions separately but then you need to find 2 decent staff members instead of 1 so it is only really for when you can't.
At least in the lower leagues, I've noticed that if I drop a player's wages dramatically below what they want, whilst also removing a bunch of other stuff, when the agent adds it all back with another comment that "offering the suggested wages will go a long way..." I can then leave them the wages they want, and remove a load of other stuff. In 3 seasons and two promotions, I have rarely paid agent fees, signing on fees or loyalty bonuses, as well as unused sub fee.
The greatest negotiation trick was signing Alan Shearer from Newcastle in CM01/02 by offering them tens of millions after he got 1 international cap. Which he was of course never going to do since he was retired. Still, it always had me in fear of seeing an inbox message one day of 'Shearer comes out of retirement'.
I forget the exact breakdown of "per game" bonuses but I think it works out to being 20-25% of the total weekly salary. The goal or assist bonus can run anywhere between 75-110% of the "per game" bonus and the amount you pay for them to sit out a game is exactly 25% of their "per game" average. That's usually how the computer breaks down these bonuses for players but Ive found that you can have a player agree to a lower per week salary if you give them more money per game just to show up and play. I could be wrong but I dont think the per game bonus counts towards your overall team salary. So if youre stuck in a rut with a player that will bring you above that weekly salary cap your club gives you then you can get them more money per game. Agents seem to have no problem with this either.
U can remove the sell on fee if u let the GM negotiate the contract and if the player accept. Then u just go change the contract and most of the time u can remove the sell on fee but u must up the wage a little bit.
A great trick is to set an insanely high wage after 1 international appearance for players who will never get that. Which usually means lower leagues and players of BIG nations. Don't do this with players from small nations because a Thai player in the French 3rd division is is still very likely to get a callup as opposed to a French guy in the 2nd league.
did this to all my player when i manage blyth spartans in vnn. 3 yearsin, i got a player called danny mota from lux and set the wage after international appearance clause. Long story short, this bench warmer is now my highest paid player and get paid 5 times other star players.
Annual wages when working on a small team where I want to be able to map out the finances of the season so we don't get mega debt. Per week when you're comfortable financially so it's easier to distinguish the actual value of the player. That's just my preference.
You don't need to lock each option. Just click the "Negotiable" option above and make it Non-negotiable. This trick that Zealand found out, works for years. As Zee said, in the last negotiation offer, make it "non-negotiable" and boom: SUCCESS!
zeroing on the relegation release clause was one of my best kept secret in the hope that SI won;t caught on lol. I don't think the assist and goal bonus clause work on every player though. This can be proven by taking it out from a contract offer that has been accepted. The player will usually reject any changes in the contract that will negatively affect their position in said contract, no matter how little the changes are. In case of a forward or offensive minded mf, taking out an assist clause after the whole contract is accepted will result in said changes being refused. Whereas if the same is being done to a df contract, they will still gladly accept it. Done some test on this but please correct me if anyone get diff result
I have a salary scale depending ln their role in the team. I have a limit and that way im never overpaying anyone, if they dont accept and it is impossible for me to give them that contract I analyze if it is better to sell or let their contract run out and see if he lowers his demands.
in lower leagues put in max Salary for earning a Int. cap. if you know the player is never gonna get that cap. Eg. League 2 english players. after that you can almost lower the normal wage to nothing.
I tend to pay the player a little more and massively drop the agents fee I hate paying agents when they don’t do nothing for my team… I had 1 agent who wanted a million pounds by the time the deal was done he left with just 100k teach those greedy agents haha
I don't know wether I should use weekly or yearly cause yearly more logical but i am not used to measuring in yearly so I don't really know like what wage is normal or too much.
adding a bonus for reaching something like the ucl as a small club actually works super well as a small and poor club too. playing as le havre im lucky to finish midtable, but whats an extra 300k on a transfer if i get ucl football you know?
Old comment but using DoF to start negotiations and insta changing offer kinda makes those annoying release clauses etc become soft ones and not locked ones, but than youre on mercy of what already been offered.
Cuz of the beginning about yearly wage: Isnt the UK / Premier League the only ones that rly talk about weekly? Everyone i know from other Countrys (know people in sweden, poland, netherlands, portugal and mexico, myself im from germany) and what u read about transfers is like 90% in yearly wages (LaLiga, Serie A, Bundesliga, whatever) and everytime i see a transfer from e.g. Bundesliga to Premier the wage is suddenly shown as weekly. What I see more and more getting closer to a "even devivide" is transfernews etc. talking about wages only in before or after tax sums, where i personally think after tax is useless (beside for the player himself ofcourse) because I as fan want to see what the club is paying not what the player gets.
Great video Zea! Question for you, have you ever signed players for a team for them to go on and sign them in real life? On my Aston Villa saves the last couple of years I've signed Boubacar Kamara and now we've signed him 😂
Hey, have you ever done a video about long term scout improvement? For example: I hired a spanish scout with adaptability 18, judging 18/18, but he only has knowledge of spain. So I though, this could be a potential good scout for south america and send him to scout there via region. 3 seasons later and that guy hasn't improved his knowledge notably... yeah! On the other hand it is really hard to find scouts with decent knowledge AND good stats in the game... So any long term advice for scout improvement? =) Thanks. mate
Always, always, always remove and exclude yearly wage rise percentages. Rather give them a bit more base salary then have people on year over year crazy wage rises.
Forget negotiations. Wth is this shit in fm nowadays that you get multiple players asking for improved contracts almost every season. You would even see players that you renewed their contracts the year before doing that shit. Like wtfff!. I doubt it is that bad in real life
Yeah…I’ve got a CB right now who thinks he deserves a new contract less than 7 months after signing one! He was my first choice when I gave him the contract, and he still is, so nothing has changed so I’m not sure what makes him think he deserves a new deal!!
One thing i noticed you didn't put an emphasis on is related to the player's desire to sign the contract (you can see that in the first screen around the middle on the left). I usually put a lot of emphasis on them wanting to join us without overextending with playtimes because i've noticed that this also influences their demands in salary a lot. A player who is interested to join when set to breakthrough prospect but becomes very interested if set to fringe player for example might be just as easy to use every now and then but end up asking for way lower salaries. In lower leagues, this is gold because that might make or break a contract for a player that might hand you a free promotion.
I've done over 200 negotiations in FM22, I've removed and excluded the yearly salary raise demand in every single one and it's never been an issue.
Same, its something that I know I'll forget about, so always remove. Same with "unused sub fee"
Same. It's a must to remove.
The wages rise at a stupid rate without it!
@@ArranStevens you're a man of culture
Do you... count the number of negotiations you do?
I mean it can be useful if you want to keep the initial salary lower
Important tip- adjust down the budget to extreme right before negotiating. Players will ask for less salary when they see u have less salary budget
Maaan... you saved me thousands and thousands with this comment, thanks
This actually works? How low do you go though? Can't you prevent yourself affording the wage?
If you have upset an agent, try to sign a few of his free players or cheapest ones he has, then the relationship swings back to friendly, get the player you actually want, then delay confirmation on the others, they will cancel the deal and your up a good relationship and got the player you wanted 👌🏻
sneek 100
I have accidentally signed quite a lot of gems like that lol.
I once tried to sign Everton for... Everton, but his manager didn't like me so I checked his other players. I found a regen wonder kid priced 5M that was even better and him and I ended up selling him for 100+ millions to Barcelona the next season!
He also played decently well...
thanks
18:07 I hate having sell on fees on my contracts, the only way I have found to avoid this is in the very first step of wage negotiation (Unless the agent immediately presents a locked sell on fee) I add one myself and before I suggest the offer, I go to the drop down arrow on that clause and select "Exclude from negotiation". This makes it so that, from that moment on, that clause cannot be inserted into the negotiations by the agent, but you are still able to reintroduce it, if you change your mind.
The catch is, because of this the agent will usually demand a bigger wage or "water" in the contract, but in my case I usually prefer to pay a bit higher wages to a young player and later on cash in the totality of the sell value, because that's how I make big money. Hope it helps!
I also use the per/year format for wages. I manage in Romania, so that way at least the numbers look a bit brighter.
Also, I remember back in FM 12 I was really desperate to keep a forward in my team that I gave him a 50% yearly wage raise on a 4-5 year contract. And then, when I realized he was getting me bankrupted, I tried selling him and no team would take him. Fun memories...
Einstein "compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe" (actually he probably didn't say this but hey..).
Well.. I use the wage format per week because that's the way I'm used to since Championship Manager 01/02..
Usually to avoid high sell-on fees for agents that tend to do that, i lock in a 5% sell-on fee on the profits (not the overall fee) and that is the cheapest way to get around it. will always be accepted and is a good bonus in the negotiations.
Always do contract start date for the start of the following season.
Delays the player getting an immediate hike in wages and you then get him for another year at his current wages 😎
Can be helpful in tight financial situations
One more tip that I've found incredibly useful, especially with developing players: look ahead.
If this is a player that you are definitely going to want/need to renew contracts with at some point, and you know you want them on your team next season, it will be cheaper to negotiate right away, particularly if they're going to be a better player next year.
Get them to sign a contract starting at the end of the season, and do it early. This gives you two MAJOR benefits:
1) They will ask for a cheaper contract now than they will in 8 months.
2) When the next beginning-of-season transfer window opens, they have just signed a new contract, and won't want to move.
Re-read that second one again. You read right. Those pesky 'Wnt' conditions, where Liverpool, Man City, and PSG all want to make a move for your wonderkid just when he's starting to get good? They become irrelevant for that transfer window. You get to keep your best young players (at least until the mid-season transfer window).
Do note, however, that the 'just signed a new contract' effect doesn't start until the contract takes effect. If you're in early October, and you think big clubs will make a move for your player in January, then there's a chance you won't be able to hold on to them then. In that case, offering them an immediate contract might be the better option, even if it hurts. If you think you can dodge your way out of this transfer window (good relationship, great captain to intervene, the player is an influencial part of a social group and is happy about it - check the player's Happiness screen), the end-of-season contract might very well be your best bet.
Something that can trip you up as well is if there is significant interest from other clubs already. In this case, the player might not be interested in negotiating at all. DO NOT DESPAIR. I have yet to find in FM22 that I can't swing it at some point if I offer it often enough. If the team is playing well, and morale is high, you might be able to get it done regardless.
Dynamics, baby!
I always try the optional 3 year extention for wonderkids. That way they have a contract for 8 years. I have some worldbeaters in my team on 30k a year 😅
@@KGHHC Genuine question, how are they doing morale-wise? Are they super angry that you're not renewing contracts? Do you get around the morale issues and bids from bigger clubs in some clever way? Because I did the trick you described in previous editions, but I gave up on it pretty early in FM22 - perhaps wrongly so?
@@79AlienFinger79 Yeah sometimes that can get difficult but most get persuaded by one of the team leaders not to ask for a new contract. And if they still want a contract you can say "X also asked for a improved contract but he let it drop" or you can say "you still have a long way to go on your contract". It rarely happens that they are still upset but they can't do much if they still have 6 years left on their contract 😅
Funnily enough I do the exact same thing as you and been doing it since 21. I’ve found that if they’ve signed a pre agreement, if big clubs want and bid for them before the contract kicks in you are able to decline all those transfers without getting them upset.
@@tomiwa2410 The thing I like the most is having absolute world-class players of 26 years old on your team with only 25k salary per week. It's kind of a cheat code
I'm still on 21, but there another good thing is that the general manager can be really good at breaking down promise barriers, and if you want to edit the length or something else in the deal, you can negoitate that without dealing with the promises.
One of the most OP feature in contracts options is the extension option (1, 2, 3 years). First, you get the player in your club up to 8 years maximum, but more, it will make it easier to calm him down if he wants to leave for a better club. When you activate the extension, ANY club interested won't be anymore (Even if he is a primary target of them for years), so the player will calm down and you will be able to sign him to another contract down the line..... and apply the same trick!!!
With new signings, you can lower the signing bonus by just raising the Agent's fee a little. If the agent says the player wants a 8M signing bonus, and an 800k agent's fee, you can bump up the agent's fee to 1.2M and lower the player's signing fee to something like 4.5M
You can thank me later ;)
There's one thing that I do which I don't see a lot of people commenting about- Adding optional extension to the contract. I go for 3 years. And they accept it most of the time. So it is 5 years + 3 optional years and sometime even 1 year extension on the last year. This way I can have a player for 8-9 years on a single contract.
i don't think the optional extension and compulsory extension on last year can stack. From my experience, if you trigger one, the otheer just vanish
@@marcohardianto6629 yea. But theres a trick I follow. If you trigger optional extension the other extensions just vanish. But if you wait for league games extension to trigger on its own the optional extension remains as it is. And even if you're not able to use both of them still you'll have the player for 8 years.
@@rayedaslam nice info, gonna try it out sometime, thanks!
Wages per year makes so much more sense! I played on weekly since FM 12 before finding your twitch channel around FM20 and when I tried it out myself it blew my mind how much better it was. Allocating money between transfer and wage, calculating how much money you will get after a player sale etc. On weekly wages you can easily get caught out paying players way too much instead of signing players on higher transfer fees but on lower wages. If you're still playing on weekly/monthly you should definitely try per year for a save. Ze you should make a video on this!
so, what are you saying that paying the higher transfer fees is much better than paying high wages? Just like Barca are doing now???
In Spain and a few other countries there's a compulsory release clause. If you want to reduce wages just reduce release clause of the player.
PS: this works only if you think the release clause already fixed by the agent is quite high. (eg - I'm okay with 130m release clause for my wonderkid instead of 150m. I'm absolutely fine with it boy)
Mystery football is the best thing I’ve gotten out of this channel thank you for introducing me to them
Best tip I've got is to give 50% of next transfer to go to both club and player, for when you want a top player that you know you'll be using until they die out. I've got both Mbappe and Haaland in the 1st transfer window, paying like 13M upfront, 58M in installments and 3-5M in bonuses. I know I won't be selling them and when they are 34-35 and no longer useful, I'm happy to just get them off my wage list.
Cant imagine what the FM community would be like without Zealand. Great work man!
I enjoyed watching Zealand get excited about a USL1 shirt! I've got every shirt (except the 2 that released when I was a broke college student) from my local USL1 club!
Little tip for you all - when signing a player, change the signing on fee to £1. As long as the wage is correct, they will always accept it. I've even got away with offering £0 but £1 is nailed on to work.
I offer them generous amount for my Best & loyal player, even they're a benchwarmer 💸💸💸, but those with mercenary personality would get peanut 🥜
Thanks for the tip!
This definitely wont apply for the big teams.
You have my attention.
Hey Zealand, thx for your quality videos! In FM 23 they changed a thing I absolutely hate. When I signed a new starter, like a top striker, i always removed as much bonus payments as possible. No appearance fee, nothing for scoring goals and so on because when you know he will play 30-40 games and will score most of your goals its so much cheaper to give him a bit more salary. In FM 23 I often had the issue that they were fine with a contract but cancelled it some time after because a special fee was missing. Hate it.
On the sell-on fee, I'm not sure if you can get rid of it entirely, but if you want to reduce it the same trick I use to raise minimum fee release clauses might work. So if you know the agent is going to lock a release clause: 1) Instruct DoF to negotiate 2) Go to 'Change Contract Offer' 3) You can't add/remove clauses but you can raise the release clause as high as you like, and probably lower the sell on fee too. I always add some more water in the other cups when I do this. 4) You can't lock individual clauses doing this, so set the entire contract to non-negotiable.
haven't had to use it as much, but a nice (but sometimes expensive) trick to get a really good deal on the table and have it accepted is to pay the agent a lot more than they would expect. This obviously depends on their own personality, but more often than not more money for them "suddenly" makes them like your offer more.
I do contracts differently to a lot of people it seems.
I'd rather pay someone £85,000 a week with no bonuses at all than pay someone £60,000 a week with a ton of bonuses.
Because of the league I'm in (BAN save with Gibraltar) and the strength of my team, it would cripple me financially with bonuses given that my striker could easily bang in 5 goals a game or my winger could easily chip in with 4 assists. Don't wanna be paying that striker £10k per goal or that winger £8k per assist if I can help it.
9:44 My biggest issue is with staff not accepting second roles as well.
The second role thing is very specific, bigger clubs need dedicated staff roles so it will often determine the staff member to be too busy with their main role to take a side role. Also just fyi, you'll need to offer them the wages for both positions and a little extra for working them to the bone so it isn't cheap, you can usually save money by filling both positions separately but then you need to find 2 decent staff members instead of 1 so it is only really for when you can't.
@@meowwww9275 Ah, so I don't have to offer dual roles for Newcastle, but I may have to for New Zealand.
At least in the lower leagues, I've noticed that if I drop a player's wages dramatically below what they want, whilst also removing a bunch of other stuff, when the agent adds it all back with another comment that "offering the suggested wages will go a long way..." I can then leave them the wages they want, and remove a load of other stuff. In 3 seasons and two promotions, I have rarely paid agent fees, signing on fees or loyalty bonuses, as well as unused sub fee.
Per year > any others. It's so much more easy to make sense about what you're spending
The greatest negotiation trick was signing Alan Shearer from Newcastle in CM01/02 by offering them tens of millions after he got 1 international cap. Which he was of course never going to do since he was retired. Still, it always had me in fear of seeing an inbox message one day of 'Shearer comes out of retirement'.
I hate to admit it as a Union Omaha fan but Forward Madison always have very nice kits.
I forget the exact breakdown of "per game" bonuses but I think it works out to being 20-25% of the total weekly salary. The goal or assist bonus can run anywhere between 75-110% of the "per game" bonus and the amount you pay for them to sit out a game is exactly 25% of their "per game" average.
That's usually how the computer breaks down these bonuses for players but Ive found that you can have a player agree to a lower per week salary if you give them more money per game just to show up and play.
I could be wrong but I dont think the per game bonus counts towards your overall team salary. So if youre stuck in a rut with a player that will bring you above that weekly salary cap your club gives you then you can get them more money per game. Agents seem to have no problem with this either.
That thumbnail is nice
Great explanation with the water cup example
Love your content Zealand !
im european and use yearly wage, its just easier to keep the book under control
I'm pretty sure that is the most everyones ever been excited in relation to anything about Forward Madison
I always find if you set the agent fee to £0 and make nonnegotiable they don’t argue with it
Me as PSG manager in 2027 signing a new striker:
Look, Haaland is my first choice so I’ll make you an impact sub but give you £400k a week, okay?
The clauses are like NFL contracts where bonuses are BLTBE or BNLTBE (likely to be earned or not likely to be earned)
Please, Z, more of those "Watching you play FM"
U can remove the sell on fee if u let the GM negotiate the contract and if the player accept. Then u just go change the contract and most of the time u can remove the sell on fee but u must up the wage a little bit.
OMG MY LOCAL CLUB! MYSTERY FOOTBALL NAILED IT
A great trick is to set an insanely high wage after 1 international appearance for players who will never get that. Which usually means lower leagues and players of BIG nations. Don't do this with players from small nations because a Thai player in the French 3rd division is is still very likely to get a callup as opposed to a French guy in the 2nd league.
did this to all my player when i manage blyth spartans in vnn. 3 yearsin, i got a player called danny mota from lux and set the wage after international appearance clause. Long story short, this bench warmer is now my highest paid player and get paid 5 times other star players.
@@marcohardianto6629 😂😂😂
@@marcohardianto6629 damn.. sell him fast.
@@lordwaleane5397 Nobody will buy him with a contract like that 😄
I moved to annual salary after watching your streams, much easier to plan around wages and transfer budget.
Annual wages when working on a small team where I want to be able to map out the finances of the season so we don't get mega debt. Per week when you're comfortable financially so it's easier to distinguish the actual value of the player. That's just my preference.
You don't need to lock each option. Just click the "Negotiable" option above and make it Non-negotiable. This trick that Zealand found out, works for years. As Zee said, in the last negotiation offer, make it "non-negotiable" and boom: SUCCESS!
Forward Madison!!! LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!
the extra bonuses work with staff as well
zeroing on the relegation release clause was one of my best kept secret in the hope that SI won;t caught on lol. I don't think the assist and goal bonus clause work on every player though. This can be proven by taking it out from a contract offer that has been accepted. The player will usually reject any changes in the contract that will negatively affect their position in said contract, no matter how little the changes are. In case of a forward or offensive minded mf, taking out an assist clause after the whole contract is accepted will result in said changes being refused. Whereas if the same is being done to a df contract, they will still gladly accept it. Done some test on this but please correct me if anyone get diff result
I have a salary scale depending ln their role in the team. I have a limit and that way im never overpaying anyone, if they dont accept and it is impossible for me to give them that contract I analyze if it is better to sell or let their contract run out and see if he lowers his demands.
Ah yes, teach us in the way of negoZiations mastah!
Well done 😄
Great video!
Speaking of USL2, I have a jersey from newly formed Fort Wayne FC!
in lower leagues put in max Salary for earning a Int. cap. if you know the player is never gonna get that cap. Eg. League 2 english players. after that you can almost lower the normal wage to nothing.
I tend to pay the player a little more and massively drop the agents fee I hate paying agents when they don’t do nothing for my team… I had 1 agent who wanted a million pounds by the time the deal was done he left with just 100k teach those greedy agents haha
Bro, somebody get this man a Union Omaha jersey. You never want to go full mingo!
I have started doing the bloated contracts myself to get people to sign with me
The sunglasses reminded me of that intro where all we did was vibe to a tune for 3 minutes.
Can someone please remind me the title
I need tips on buying defensive players(Center banks and Defensive midfielders).
Do I prioritise mental attributes or pace?
What are you talking about, people? Wage per year is miles better at finance management than it is weekly or monthly.
The first thing I always do when a new FM comes out:
Setting the dates to DD/MM/YYYY
Negative Balance is a simple "- 5€"
Yearly wages
@@gandalf_thegrey That's the right thing to do. I also change it to euro and commas to periods.
I don't know wether I should use weekly or yearly cause yearly more logical but i am not used to measuring in yearly so I don't really know like what wage is normal or too much.
adding a bonus for reaching something like the ucl as a small club actually works super well as a small and poor club too.
playing as le havre im lucky to finish midtable, but whats an extra 300k on a transfer if i get ucl football you know?
Old comment but using DoF to start negotiations and insta changing offer kinda makes those annoying release clauses etc become soft ones and not locked ones, but than youre on mercy of what already been offered.
Clicked on the subscribe. I couldn't sign Mbappe to CD Nacional (Portuguese 2nd division)
I just throw a free relegation release clause in and they take pretty much whatever I offer
Does this work when you're challenging for Champions League places? lol
Lol I doubt this works for teams that have no potential to be relegated.
do different nationalities develop different kinds of players more often? like will brazil produce more wingers with flair compared to england
These are tough negociations.
Zeeland.. how do u change shirt numbers of existing players?
who are you kidding, you will forget about his release clause for the next contract also 😀😀😀
Forward Madison kits are great. Check out their drip kit. I have one.
Cuz of the beginning about yearly wage:
Isnt the UK / Premier League the only ones that rly talk about weekly? Everyone i know from other Countrys (know people in sweden, poland, netherlands, portugal and mexico, myself im from germany) and what u read about transfers is like 90% in yearly wages (LaLiga, Serie A, Bundesliga, whatever) and everytime i see a transfer from e.g. Bundesliga to Premier the wage is suddenly shown as weekly.
What I see more and more getting closer to a "even devivide" is transfernews etc. talking about wages only in before or after tax sums, where i personally think after tax is useless (beside for the player himself ofcourse) because I as fan want to see what the club is paying not what the player gets.
I don't use many clauses
Main 2 are goal bonus and clean sheet bonus
ayyy madison forwards is my hometown team
Love that title man hahaha
Great video Zea!
Question for you, have you ever signed players for a team for them to go on and sign them in real life?
On my Aston Villa saves the last couple of years I've signed Boubacar Kamara and now we've signed him 😂
Oof that player interest when suggesting Regular Starter...
Offer new contract > suggest terms > accept
Signed Messi back fom PSG....couldn't afford to register him because of the salary cap
That's a perfect Bartomeu move
LMAO
Why do I only can set the "release clause in case of relegation"? Theres no regular release clause anymore :D Only in case of relegation...So wack!
is it possible to make one of my active players as a technical director, Z?
ohhhh god i had migrane watching this
Being British I get triggered in us version for wages by year per annum and instead of DOF director of football it's a GM
I'd love to get mystery football kits but they don't do fatman sizes 😭
So it's settled then. Size matters
Hey, have you ever done a video about long term scout improvement?
For example: I hired a spanish scout with adaptability 18, judging 18/18, but he only has knowledge of spain. So I though, this could be a potential good scout for south america and send him to scout there via region. 3 seasons later and that guy hasn't improved his knowledge notably... yeah!
On the other hand it is really hard to find scouts with decent knowledge AND good stats in the game... So any long term advice for scout improvement? =)
Thanks. mate
just sign another scout that have knowledge of that county. eg: Brazil. There's always staff regens that you can sign.
@@lordwaleane5397 I don't have infinite scout slots, also it is not that easy to get scouts that doesn't overlap and are decent and so on...
Always, always, always remove and exclude yearly wage rise percentages. Rather give them a bit more base salary then have people on year over year crazy wage rises.
Zealand I watched your beginner videos and now with 4 seasons in I'm winning too much. help me
Im european and play with yearly wages. Weekly doesnt make sense to me. Monthly, sure, but weekly??? Yearly is best
Up with the Mingos
WHAT THATS MY HOMETOWN CLUBS KIT OMG
Imagine playing fm23 and the players would have impact to the decision on signing players like Mbappe have it's so fed up
They already do it, just not to the extent Mbappe did.
Nice video
get a dof with 20 in the stat the go on holiday for the next 10 years
Forget negotiations. Wth is this shit in fm nowadays that you get multiple players asking for improved contracts almost every season. You would even see players that you renewed their contracts the year before doing that shit. Like wtfff!. I doubt it is that bad in real life
Yeah…I’ve got a CB right now who thinks he deserves a new contract less than 7 months after signing one! He was my first choice when I gave him the contract, and he still is, so nothing has changed so I’m not sure what makes him think he deserves a new deal!!
People say the length doesn’t matter……… 😂
I'm still astonished by how awful the Puma kits actually are.
There are so many double entendres in this video
Tottenham players dont need water because they dont have cups
Bro i'm a Madrid fan, don't laugh at me like this man😭😔
Signed Mbappe for free to Inter without breaking my wage structure 🤣😂
Buy high
Sell low
😎😎😎
One thing i noticed you didn't put an emphasis on is related to the player's desire to sign the contract (you can see that in the first screen around the middle on the left).
I usually put a lot of emphasis on them wanting to join us without overextending with playtimes because i've noticed that this also influences their demands in salary a lot.
A player who is interested to join when set to breakthrough prospect but becomes very interested if set to fringe player for example might be just as easy to use every now and then but end up asking for way lower salaries.
In lower leagues, this is gold because that might make or break a contract for a player that might hand you a free promotion.
GO MINGOS !