Woodturning - Watertight and food safe canteen turned on multi axis without any jigs
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this woodturning video I show how to make a wooden flask or canteen that you can actually have liquids in. I use regular woodturning tools without any special jigs to turn on two axis. I really make the most out of the lathe chuck. It is food safe(with reservations) and water tight. I have not found many videos on youtube about how to do this so I wanted to share my take on it. Great fun woodworking project.
Hope you like it :)
Oh, I thought the outer panels would be more spherical, so the flask could hold more liquid.
Nice technique by the way.
And for the record, ALL two part epoxies are food safe once fully cured.
Another way to make it waterproof is to simply glue the panels on with epoxy, then when cured, melt some beeswax and pour it in. Fill it right up and dump it out immediately. That will leave a nice coating of wax on the inside.
Beautiful work! As an alternative for the inside, Rustins plastic coating and hardener is a certified food safe product that would do the job well.
Thank you 🙌😃 I have never heard of that, but will look into it. Always been unsure what to treat my cups and such with and always looking for a better way. Thank you for that
A second thank you. I will definitely be trying Rustins on a project.
Absolutely beautiful piece. I'm definitely putting an attempt at recreation on my to do list
I literally sat slack-jawed while I watched this. Absolutely gorgeous!! You sir, are an inspiration. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much for your kind comment! 🤩🙌
Why would you use epoxy? Why not just Olive oil to treat the wood itself! Or you couldve made a beeswax/oil combo for the interior for instance. Beautiful jar though, congratulations.
I enjoyed seeing the carefully thought work flow on making the flask. This is what is so intriguing in wood turning. One aspect is to master the handling of the chisels. Another thing is figuring out how much can be done with rather simple tools, and what is the best workflow. You really showed the potential and opened my eyes for new opportunities using the same tools. Thanks! ❤
I’m glad you liked it 🙌 thank you 🤩
Actually, the work flow was wasteful and unnecessary. Why glue together 3 blocks of wood, only to completely cut 2 of them away? Just start with the dark block, cut it hollow, then add the 2 new end blocks as he did. As an engineer with production training, this unnecessary workflow made the viewing experience less enjoyable for me. I like to see optimized workflows.
@@MaskedMarble well, as a DSc (Tech) in industrial engineering and management I consider the workflow well thought. Because his intention was to demonstrate how to do this with just the specific chuck and jaws. For what you described, a set of different fixtures are needed, and jigs built, this method shows how to get perfect fit without any extra tools. Feel free to make a video to demonstrate a more efficient way to do this end result. Material for jigs counts.
@@MaskedMarbleполностью с тобой согласен, приклеить светлое дерево, лишь для того, что бы его отрезать, это расточительно и долго, можно было сразу начинать с тëмного дерева😉
Very nice. I am sure it will be ok regarding food safe. Could you not have left the inside bare. Olive Oil would do it no harm and bare wood would do the olive oil no harm. I think!
Thank you for commenting 👍 You might be right, but I’ve read that organic oils will spoil in a year or two and leave residue and flawor to the treated product. I thought about saturating the container with food safe danish oil insted of the epoxy. Hard to know whats best, a lot of different opinions on the matter 🤷
Hello. I watch all of Richard Raffan's excellent videos and he has 50+ years of utilitarian production under his Belt. He has produced thousands of Plates, Bowls, etc and his products gain patina over time but are serviceable many decades on. I would think just a flush with soapy water periodically would suffice.@@nordicturning
@@25is27 He would know for sure. I too love his videos 👍
After doing a fair amount of research on safe finishes for wood cups, I believe most epoxy would be fine for this application. If i understand correctly, the only risk in using epoxy is that it may chip off and get into the food you're making. This wouldn't be a problem for this project since you're not going to be scraping the inside with metal utensils (like you might with a wooden bowl). Just my thoughts from what I've read, but I may be wrong. Also, I must say that is one GORGEOUS piece. Your method of hollowing the inside was very creative, thanks for sharing your process 👍
Beautiful flask! Great job showing chucking techniques that novice turners may not have seen before.
Thank you very much 🙌
Brilliant method and process. This way of thinking about the order of steps opens up new possibilities for a simple turner like myself. Beautiful work.
I’m glad you like it and want to try! 🤩👍
That is the most beautiful wood flask i ever seen. thanks. But this is WAY beyond my ability.
Thank you for your instructions, you did an amazing job. I can't wait to try this myself.
Thank you! 🤩 happy turning 👍🙌
The flask looks Fantastic, well done 🙌🙌
Just simply beautiful. Thank you for sharing with all of us. You are appreciated.
That is very nice of you! 🤩 thank you for watching 🙌
What a neat idea, love the flask and this will be one I will try..Thank you for sharing.
I agree with mc-kik6ik, and although bisphenol-A epoxy is “food safe” I would not be happy to store liquids over extended periods. It is one thing to drink from a cup that is coated with epoxy, and a completely different over time. A cup is at least rinsed after use.
My personal opinion is not to coat the inside. The question is the adhesive. If BPA -free epoxy is to be used, the contact area (in a bare vessel) would be minimal.
Anyway, nice work! Looks superb.
I will try just not treating it next time for sure. At the very least it will be ok for years before going bad, and a rinse every once in a while would help. Thank you for watching and commenting 🙌
Wow! So beautiful. And very creative. I loved it! ❤
Thank you 🤩🙌
It'll always be round anywhere in the X section, don't worry. If it was as you thought (ie. as in a horizontal Y section), it'd be very difficult to achieve a sufficiently accurate circle by eye. Nice flask 👍
Super confused about the waste. Why glue together 3 pieces of wood to make a beautiful 2-tone block of wood, only to cut away the 2 lighter toned blocks completely? Just start with the dark block, cut it hollow, THEN add the 2 new light blocks as you did. Sorry, but I had training in production engineering, and this unnecessary waste of time, effort, and materials made the video an unpleasant viewing experience for me.
That’s so rude ,if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all. We were all told the light colour timber was added to help make the piece as spherical as possible. pay attention instead of thinking what not so nice things you can write.
Well done what a beautiful piece of art you make and how you make it look so easy. Tremendous 👏👏👏
Should’ve used bees wax instead to finish it. I would love to have a water bottle like that if it didn’t have an toxic plastic finishes or glues. This could be made with only wood joinery.
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That was absolutely one of the most unique and beautiful things I have seen turned. Thank you for the inspiration and sharing. I do have to imagine though that that spout coming around must have been a bit nerve wracking...lol.
Thank you so much! I’m glad to share it and really appreciate your comment 🤩 and yes, I had to remind myself of that spinning spout a few times, so I didn’t brake my fingers 😆
I have been doing a lot of wood turning during my 67 years on this planet, but this is absolutely one of the most beautiful and useful pieces of art I ever seen. I thank you humbly and will follow your next projects. You are truly an artist.
@@torbjornsjodin2447 Thank you so much for your kind comment. I’m very glad you liked my project and to have you following 🙌
Absolutely beautiful work!
I have to say that was one of the best things I've ever seen done on a lathe. I don't know that I would try to tackle it but good job 👍👍
Good workmanship! Excellent tools! But not technologically! For small parts use large billets. Very much waste. Sad.
Epoxy is perfectly food safe once cured. FDA hahahaha.
Or you could make one out of leather. Line the inside with melted wax.
unfortunately youtube doesn't allow you to watch videos and I don't pay for it, that's why I unsubscribed.
Amazing piece and I really compliment you on the voice over. People don’t realize how hard it is to do well and you nailed it. Thanks for sharing. You earned a new subscriber.
Thank you so much! 🙌 I really apreciate it, doing the voice over is the hardest part of the whole thing 😆
@@nordicturning I agree. Ive been practicing and working up to putting voice overs back in. For now it’s just music. I’ll get there eventually. Hope you have a great day. Looking forward to your next video.
Awesome- your presentation was outstanding as were your turning skills. Always appreciate a fine piece regardless of its practical potential. Esthetics to a turner or viewer are paramount.
Please continue to share with all in US. Tones 11:28 11:28
Nice video, What is the brand of the lathe ypu are using? It looks a bit like a Record Power.
As far as I know no epoxy is more than 'contact safe' for foods. i.e. fine for chopping boards where food is exposed to the epoxy food no more than a few minutes, but will leech during prolonged contact or storage.
You might be right. Have tried to find good information on these products but its all a bit vague, maybe thats the reason.
Very nice work. I may shamelessly copy it, with permission. I have a friend who turns mugs, etc. he finishes with epoxy, as one it has cured, is supposed to be food safe.
Thank you 😃 yes of course you can 👍
Copie parfaite de la vidéo de Keith Buxton "Show Me Woodturners" réalisée il y a 6 ans...
microplastic being the keyword here. every plastic sold as foodsafe is in fact not. people need to realize that plastic is in fact not safe
couldyou tell me where you sourced your branding iron. Thanks
beautiful and practical project. Clearly illustrated. Well done!
Thank you! 🙌
Veramente notevole molta bravura manuale solo quelli come noi che Hanno piacere di usare il tornio possono capire apprezzare tutto questo la maggior parte crede che sia facile ma non è così un saluto da Genova
A really nice project to test your skills. Looks great!
Thank you Nathan 🙌 it was challanging, but so much fun the see everything work out 🤩
Wow beautiful. I have just started Lathe work. You are very inspiring. Thanks for the video.
Thank you 🙌 very happy you like my videos 🤩
Absolutely stunning!!!👏👏👏🔥 I’ll head to my shop and start making my own. Thanks for the inspiration ✌️
👍🤩 happy turning 🙌
Que peça linda. Parabéns pela bela obra de arte. Um grande abraço aqui do Brasil 🇧🇷
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Great job, very nice flask ❤
Thank you 🤩
I think I figured it out at 1:45 , we shall see.
I was correct about turning it on its side. What a clever method I don’t think I’d have thought of. Well done, and a beautiful piece.
I am relieved with the knowledge that you're smart after all
Why didn’t you just use a hole saw at the start on the dark wood then sandwich it with the white wood?
I like this a lot. His skills with a lathe are top notch.......... at least as far as I can tell. I have thought about making a wooden flask in the past, but never tried. My ideas revolved around a glass container with wood epoxied around and to it. Then, work the wood on the outside by hand and finish. The glass container could be cleaned without touching the wood.
That's a neat idea
Wow - as a newbie turner - that was quite the inspiration. Amazing work!
@@michaeldicerto6265 Thank you! 🤩 I’m glad you like it! Keep turning 👍
Pure tung oil is food safe and builds up a polymerized surface after repeated applications.
Thanks, I’ll give it a try for sure 👍
An alternative to epoxi or other man made stuff would have been to use bees wax... safer and natural
Very well demonstrated, beautiful piece, thank you. How did you find the centre of the sacrificial sides when you re mounted it in the second orientation?
Thank you for the comment 🙌 I used a soft meassuring tape to find the diameter(and radius) of the construction lumber circles, and then used a compass to mark lines from three points around the circle to find the center. I actually spent some time pondering how to do this myself, and ended up not filming it.🤦
I've finally found a project I want to try. Beautifully done, thank you!
Ditto. I'll make one using olive wood from limbs cut from trees grown on my property and likewise the flask will be for olive oil.
I made one just like this with perspex windows.....i put some old wine in it and it leaked like a sieve.....😅...I'll have another go and use a less porous wood.....nice job by the way
Hehe that sounds about right, mine has started to leak now too. There must have been some movement in the wood and a problem with two grain directions 🤷 Thanks 👍
Cool techniques and nice finished result
Why use glue if you can make it out of a single piece of wood?
I wish my lathe was that good. Beautiful work. Love from Brazil ❤
Thank you 🙌
I have just found your Site. Brilliant. Great work.
Thank you and welcome 🤩
A great result from good hands.
Nice piece.
Are you going to turn a stopper for it?
Very nice! I learned a lot by watching this.
My sincere thanks.
I’m very glad you liked it 👍 thank you for watching 🙌
Beautifully crafted. The olive wood accents are gorgeous. Since you're filling this with olive oil, I wonder if you even need afinish on the inside. Can you just let the olive oil feed the wood?
Thank you! 🤩 You might be right, a few others have commented that they let the oil itself do the job. Next time I have to try that. There has been a crack in the epoxy coat on mine now, the wood moved in two directions because of the grains, so it has a leak now. Wondering if this would be less of a problem without the epoxy and the wood was given a bit more room to move.
What have you processed inside the product?
A lovely piece! You have inspired me to try some multi-axis turning!
I’m glad to hear that 🤩 happy turning 👍
No resin is food safe. By adding it to your project, you've ruined it for use as intended.
Sorry, but wanting something to be true doesn't just make it true.
Thank you for the comment, and no need to apologize. This video has stirred up alot of interesting opinions on the topic, and I appreciate yours as well 👍
Hello new my friend,
It's nice to see something new, beautiful and comfortable being created! A smart head and golden hands are the keys to success. Good luck in creativity. All the best. See you.
Thank you 🤩 I’m glad you liked it and thank you for watching 🙌
Beautiful!
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what dimensions are the wooden blocks?
The walnut is 5cm, and with the construction lumber 10cm, so 10x10 and about 20cm length 👍
Wow what a great looking piece can't wait to have a try thanks for sharing
Kind regards
From will 👍🙂
wow... a nice project and a very good idea - thanks!
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Bellissimo risultato. Grazie per aver condiviso questo splendido lavoro.
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No stopper?
There will be one 👍 but I don’t have so much olive wood left so waiting for some left-overs from my next project 😆
You could maybe make a little spout plug? I was thinking of a ball with a "spike" you could drop in the top, sort of like a wine stopper, but without cork and not real tight. Not loose and sloppy, but not tight.
I don't know why that popped into my head. It just did..
Thanks for the video! Nice little project.
lovely ♥ very innovative and love the use of the Jacobs chuck 👍
Thank you 🙌🤩
Una de mis primeras piezas "importantes" la hice en quebracho blanco...una madera que a pesar de su dureza, se deja trabajar muy bien y tiene un acabado bien delicado....
Lo que explicas de las gubias es algo que pocos dicen, los ángulos, la manera de posicionar la herramienta, etc, son cosas que muy pocos cuentas bien....abrazo.
excellent turning. I will try oak as old as I can get my hands on. Probably try some bits from a Whisky barrel. Thats whisky without an E ie: Scotch. The base or the lid may be OK. I will find out what glue to use if anyong has any suggestions for glue please let me know thanks. Thanks for a great video. Harry in UK.
Nice, but epoxy does flake off with age. I would hate to have those flakes in my stomach.
Good point 👍 I’ve gotten a lot of good suggestions for alternatives here and the next one I’ll try something other than epoxy. Thanks 😃
Dang dude! Save some women for the rest of us
Well nice job. Interesting piece, looks like you need quite a bit more than a 4 jaw chuck in the click bait to make though!
Thank you for your comment 🤩 I try to incite curiosity in my thumbnail but not click-baiting 😬 It’s a difficult balance I think. You’re right, you do need a lathe and basic woodturning tools. The point is that you don’t need any special jigs for multi axis turning like in some of my other videos. Thank you for watching and engaging 🙌
The best argument I've heard was: "It's up to you to decide whether or not you consider epoxy food-safe. But really, how many of you have a chewed up plastic cutting board on the counter?"
Cool idea. Thank you.
Отлично 👍 Спасибо за идею
Beautiful, functional piece! I will definitely try my hand at this. Thanks for sharing.
I don't know exactly what you made this little wooden box for, but I know it's very interesting and neat for your work.😊
Gorgeous, I don't think I've seen anything like that on the lathe, beautiful work!
Thank you woodfather(awesome name!) 🤩 🙌
@NordicTurning
Your work is super inspiring. In the very near future I will take my first steps in woodturning. Could you please send some information about what epoxy you recommend for household work and for use in contact with food.
Thank you! 🤩 Nice to hear you are getting into woodturning, you’ll get hooked for sure 😆 Not sure I’m the best to recommend epoxy as I rarely use it myself. But for this project I used West Systems epoxy. They say it’s food safe and was perfectly fine for the project. Best of luck 👍
Interesting. About a year ago I called West Systems and talked to an engineer about if it was food safe as I used it on a cup I made. He couldn’t tell me that it was and that they hadn’t tested it for that. Have they changed their recommendation?
This flask is gorgeous. Very nice work. Thanks for sharing!
Great tutorial. I will looking for something challenging to try. This can be my next turn. Thank you for sharing 😊
I think the flask looks great. I have a wooden plate for most of my meals. It's made from camphor laurel. I use raw linseed oil to preserve and seal it. I've never tasted anything other than the food and couldn't imagine using any other plate. I don't know what our food safety standards are in Australia. I'll have to look.
I Googled food safe epoxy. Basically epoxy is food safe after it's cured fully. There is a list of resins that are stated as food safe.
Thank you! 🤩 I found the same in my research. Foodsafe when cured as long as it’s not heated up to much after.
This is absolutely beautiful, but what I found most fascinating was the moments when the spin speed synced up with the framerate and it looked like the neck was almost stationary.
I always use epoxy for the inside of my wood food containers. I also use it on the outside, after the staining step, because it produces a glass-like finish.
5:55 had me rollin my eyes like yeah...bc I have one of those and by 6:08 I was like 🤦🏼 yep, I got all that 🙃
Thank you for showing some extremely useful techniques in this project. I really enjoyed the video and learned a fair bit too. I'm still a novice, but this looks to be within my skill range, so I will be trying it.
First time discovering your channel. Was a beautiful piece of work
I was interested in it for the options for historical ish reproduction
Very cool. What was your inspiration for a canteen? Great idea. Nice turning. Did you turn a stopper too?
Beautiful... Why on earth would you use epoxy.
Thanks 🤩 I thought that was the best way to go, I have since had many people tell about better ways 😆
Absolutely beautiful. Very nice work.
Who says it has to be all one piece, This is amazing and opens up a whole new train of thoughts for me. Beautiful.
Thank you so much
Andrew Hall used to demo this in UK. They are nice, well done.
How did you get it centered for the second axis turning?
I used a meassuring tape and compass. Found the radius of the white wood, and marked the center from three points on the edge of the white wood. Terrible explanation, sorry. Did you get it?
seen picture of this but i neer thought i would see some-one make one
nice job
Very aesthetic! If I get my hands on some olive wood some day I might make one as well. Great project!
Thank you for watching and commenting 🙌😃 I recommend trying one of these, super fun to see it come together
Классная работа!!!!
That's bad ass
Very nice Video . Instead of Epoxy you could use Kelterlack , its used to seal liquid feeding Trough from the Bees for example. Absolute Foodsafe and non toxic . You can get it in almost every german Woodturning Shop like Steinert, KS Schulte etc . I use it for wooden Cups. And i will use it for my Oliveoil Flask , if i ever find the Time to work my List off lol. Tusen takk for flott Video. Hilsen fra Bayern 😅
Thank you! 🤩 I’ve gotten a lot of sugestions for alternatives for epoxy in the comments, but this is best one I think. I will try to get a hold of some for sure. Best of luck with your projects 👍 tusen takk 😆