TESTING!! LIFTABLE BALES? LOOSE or PALLETS? BELT SYSTEMS? FS22 STRAW HARVEST PACK
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Game By: GIANTS Software. In this video, I’m , hopefully, answering some questions that people have asked regarding the new Straw Harvest Pack. Take a look with me… MrSealyp
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YES... It was a grass bale (I made a mistake) however, the Liftable Bales still don't work.
The pelletizer. It's the same as putting the straw bale in a hydraulic press. The weight of the material won't change but the volume will change drastically. In this case by about half which is what I would expect. A car crusher transforms a whole car into a four foot cube. Same weight, less volume.
And nowhere was it mentioned about the price vs a straw bale vs straw pellets. If I remember from fs19, the pellets paid more than the hay ever would.
Id be worried if you got the same volume of compressed pellets from a straw bale.
@@James27Simko "I'd be worried if you got the same volume of compressed pellets from a straw bale." Exactly
I agree with the volume but in FS it’s weighed in litres not volume, plus you have the extra cost of molasses so it’s 1000 litres = 250 litres not 1000 litres, and you get extra money for doing the process I watched Disturbed Simulations, yesterday and he did a spreadsheet, and the amount off straw and hay you have to do is silly and really not worth doing
@@peterclarke3300 fill a 10 litre bucket of straw and a 10 litre bucket of sand. You'll have more weight of sand but the same volume in both. Both will be 10 litres.
@@James27Simko the game works on the same measures which is litres you are loosing 3/4 off the litres and that’s how the game works it’s pretty easy and is not real life
at 1:28 you can see at the bottom right corner of the screen that the 240 bale is grass, just want to let you know it's not hay :) that's the reason why it says FillType is not supported.
As soon as I saw the colour I was like "uhhhhhh that's grass?"
I havent tried the mod myself but I never remember using grass on fs19. So that's probably the issue and not the liftable bale
Same here it looks like grass
That is definitely the issue. It won't pick up grass for me.
It doesn't do grass, it only does hay & straw bales or pick up off the ground into pellets...
I saw that too. The largest bale was grass, wasn't it?
Hey Paul. Couple things to note about this pack and the tests you did.
-Any liftable bales will cause a game crash. tested this on NML and a vanilla base game map with just the straw pack and either liftable bales pack or selectable bale capacity.
You can use the mods that let you purchase bales either the buyable bales or the buyable large stack of bales mod does work fine with no crashes.
-Also with the conversion of 4:1 from hay/straw to pellets. You can use these for feed and beeding. If so. it would covert it to the origial amount such as A 9K Litre bale used to convert to pellets.
For me it’s the immersion of using the Pellet Hall that’s important and the mod creators attention to detail makes it worth it. Have you seen the red sticker on the back of each Pallet of Pellets? Below the sticker is a working QR code….. scan it with your phone! Brilliant😎
Yeah Creative Mesh are very impressive. I dont play MS Flightsim but you can be sure those airports are spot on
Be mindful when working around the pallets, they will spontaneously unload into any bucket that gets in range. This includes the crane even when you have the pallet tool selected, after moving and releasing a pallet with it i noticed the pallet was short 800 litres so I moved the crane away, switched to the bucket and promptly dropped said missing product on rhe floor as rhe bucket was open!
I also tried dropping 4000 litre buckets or pellets into the palletizer a few times to see if there was any bonus product increase from using that method, I kept getting an equal amount out with a couple of bags showing on the machine which could be put down to animation cycles. If it is bonus product then its such a negligible amount its hardly worth the effort and extra cost vs just selling loose. Though the process itself is actually pretty cool to do, in an interactive production sense.
As a side note I also tested 600 litre baby bales (spawned with Power Tools since im on PC), they worked just fine in the Premos shredder so long as they're oriented correctly, I even tried the 10 stack of baby bales produced by the basegame Arcusin stacker machine and that worked just like a normal 6000 litre square bale 😁.
Thank you Mr. Sealy p for the testing really appreciate that
Jan. 25, 2024 Nobody has mentioned feeding the hay pellets to animals or using the straw pellets for bedding. Two people I watch have done some testing. LooneyFarmGuy and Driver53 Gaming. Go watch their videos. For those of you who think the Straw Harvest might not be worth it for all the work, feeding and bedding is a 1 to 4 ratio. For every 1000 liters of pellet product, you get 4,000 liters of product, whether it's for feed or bedding. You can use either loose of those in pAllets. Same ratio but ONLY when using it for feed or bedding. Check them out.
This!
Option 1; Use the slower Premoss in the field to produce loose product and cart to sale/storage
Option 2; Use the faster baler but go through multiple bale handling operations and carting to convert it to loose product/pallets then cart to sale/storage.
Varied shed options in the pack for storing bales, pallets and loose product without the palletiser. As a pc player I'm running multi Premoss on courseplay in big fields on American maps. Four sheds from the pack installed in a custom yard/storage area, three for loose product and one planned for storing silage bales (assuming it stores them) when I get the mowing crew out again.
The liftable bales are custom, they would need to be added to the straw harvest mod to be able to work. Good testing vid MrSealeyP
Very nice update MrSealyP. The larger issue being that the liftable bales pack doesn't play well with the Premos and bale shredder overrides any issues or criticisms that anyone may have for trying to use the wrong bale fill type in the very beginning.
I like just the palletizing you can set it up under any place on any farm make your own warehouse/bale area that fs has become to be known for.
Thanks Paul.
I think using the Building has the "COOL" factor. for a Video game..
For me, in FS19 the attraction of the palletizer in this mod was due to a small intro to productions. Now, in FS22, not so much.
Yeah lot of the things that made it unique on fs19 just as a small example the bales produced from the square and round baler are just base game ones now on 19 they both had the special krone wrapping and like you said it was an introduction into productions but since most of this is now base game features the "magic" of the pack has wore off slightly..it's still a great mod and I'll use it often but yeah what made it unique is now not so unique....
I'll just mod the price for the pallets myself to make the entire process worthwhile. That's why we love the game.
The bale crash also happens using the 95 hp old style balers in the same location as I was on a old style playthrough using the pto engine for my peletizer
I have just done a quick test on FS 19 on No Mans Land. I took some loose pellets to the sell point and the prompt came up to tip the pellets, but when you tipped them the animation started but none of the pellets where accepted. So you couldn't sell loose pellets to the sell point on FS19.
Something I just found. I'm on court farms. I added the straw harvest pack last night. Started play. Was doing silage work. Filled the bunk and 100% compacted. But the cover bunker silo would not show up. Came out the game and disabled straw harvest pack. When I went back in the bunked said 99% compacted. Got it to 100% and the cover bunker came up. So it seems like there is a problem
its a really good mod be better after an update considering its never had an update its impressive just needs to be same ammount of pellets to bale or a tiny bit less n i mean a tiny tiny bit say 6000ltrs of straw bale to 5500ltrs pellets or same
If it goes by fs 19 rules even though there is compression and you don't have as many liters when you put it in the animal pens or feed mixers, they decompress, and you get their pre pellet volume.
Kinda makes sense you don’t get as many liters of pellets as the bale. Whole purpose of pellets is to condense the product for storage purposes and use, burns way slowly lasts longer.
A small question then how does selling the pellets compare to putting in the heating plant?? Great work by the way mrsealyp.
Great demonstration Mr P you forget to take in account the price off molasses and weight that is used 👏👏👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I tested selectable bale capacity mod on pc with 240cm 90k capacity straw bale. It fed it into shredder up to point of shredding then simply stopped. So suspect the do not work. Pellets are compressed straw so volume would be less but weight should be similar.
it needs an update so u get 25percent extra money selling pallets of pellets and itd be great if it took all bale types n sizes n lifeable bales all apart from round of course
I think that the larger capacity and liftable bale mods are classified in the game as a different bale type so when you put it into the premos 5000 you lose half your product or it crashes because it doesn't know what to do more than likely these two mods will need an update to support the straw harvest and moreover maps will probably need updating too for this to work properly
The bail mr sealyp tried looked like grass thats why it didn’t work 👍
Straw harvest only work with staw (obviously) and hay.
With regards to the loss this is normal if you compact something its liters will decrease but its weight will stay the same.
@@hybrid9mm yeah that could've caused a crash too but there's been multiple people saying do not use the liftable bales with this pack it will cause a crash so that mod in particular will require an update for it to work with this mod
@@pittbulldawg93 I only spotted the colour of the bail I wasn’t aware of what players have saying, good to know I’ll wait for updates, cheers.
People saying the volume should be 1:1 are barking up the wrong tree.
It makes perfect sense that compressing loose material into pellets would decrease the volume. If they're meant to be more profitable, it's the sell price that needs to increase, not the output volume
And if pallets are supposed to be worth the expense and effort, the pallet salepoint needs to not accept loose pellets.
The ratio looks to be the same as in fs19. 4000 ltr bale got you 1000 ltr of pellets. In 19 the animal pens mostly compensated by takin less pellets, than loose hay or straw. Haven't checked in 22 yet. Also in 19 you could only sell pallets at the sell point as I recall after they did an update, so I would expect one coming for this version as well.
I think Farmer Cop has done this test and when you add pellets to the animal pen and then check on the animal screen it shows 4x what you put in I.e put in 1000l of pellets you get 4000l of hay/straw.
@@40Beany cool, so looks to be the same as 19.
Thinking I'll pass for now. The process is cool but, work smarter not harder for that price. And i do love them liftable bales when needed. See what an update brings.
As usual nicely done and thanks my friend. 👍🚜
1.36 That was a grass bale, not a hay. That's probably why it didn't work 😂
Only autoloader that might work is the it runner multi fruit pack anytime I've used it with modded productions with new products it always works
The first thing I’m going to try on pc is edits to try and speed up that shredder and change capacity 😂
The first bale you picked up was grass not hay
Funny thing is you should get more because you add molasses and water to the hay. This would increase over all weight or volume
Not quite. Adding weight? Yes, absolutely. Adding volume? Not so much. You may be adding water and molasses, but the bulk of the material is still straw or hay which is being heavily compressed. The end product is less volume at a higher density.
Another way to look at it is since we're "removing" a much larger volume of air/empty space than the volume of what we're adding, the net result is a lower volume.
@@Qualjyn yes I understand. I just didn't and don't know if liters is weight or volume measurement in fs22 is why I said one or the other. I would guess in farming. In real life. It is measured in weight. Hence the scales. So if I'm adding water and molasses. The over all weight of the product should be greater at the end product stage. Recipe. Say. 6000l hay bale. 1000l water and 1000 liter molasses. The end product should weigh 8000L. Minus a small amount of waste or spillage. Would that be fair?
where do i find the palletizer at?
just out of curiosity, if you pellet 9000l of straw, and it compresses to 2000 ish. if you put the pellets into an animal pen would you get the 9000l back out again or would it be the 2000l?
It expands to the original quantity.
So your 9k pellets would actually be approx 4x that in straw when dumped in animal pens
This pack is not showing up in my modhub on ps4 any suggestions?
Is anyone having any problems on xbox series x for the straw harvest pack in regards to loading in the game maps?
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Won’t be touching this with a barge pole lol
You didn’t get a 1:1 ratio for loose straw or hay to pellets when this mod came out in fs19, either. Anyone remember?
Your not "losing" straw your are losing volume due to the compression into pellets
Didn't they have the same issue in fs19 with the price of loose vs. pallets that had to have an update to fix?
I put a luggable bale in and it froze my game and didn’t save at all :/
Test krone pellet harvester Selectable Bale Capacity Pack 9x bale
iv not played fs22 n nearly a week now did download new mods
Thank you for informing us, we were worried you weren't playing farm sim 😂
Mr Sealy p hope u are a well just a quick question have u ever seen a rainbow in game b4
You do realise you were using a grass bale and not a hay bale, right?
I didnt think you could use grass bales to make grass pellets?
@James27Simko you are right mate, you can't do grass, bales or off the ground, just hay & straw into pellets 👍
It just appears that whomever made the mod didn't do the math to allow for proper production values to be outputed. It's like that in alot of the production chains. I know they are trying to simulate waste or byproduct. So the ratio isn't 1:1. But then you should at least get the by product to do something with. Example. To make butter is cream from milk process. Whip the cream until the fats separate from the liquid. The liquid is now butter milk and the solid is butter. So yes you would not get one to one butter. But combined butter and butter milk should be close to same amounts at the amount of dairy milk you started with. 500l milk. 400l butter and 50l of butter milk say 50l of waste. Would be a more realistic recipe
There is no waste. The hay or straw is compressed into small pellets so takes up less room. They give the same capacity to animals when used as feed though
@@MarkThor_11 but there is a measurable amount of waste. Although it maybe small. All that dust and debris you see as a cloud around the machine. That is coming off something. It has weight. I'm just saying if they didn't want to add for the additional products that's added to the hay. They should at least have made the weight 1:1 ratio and just say the the weight of the water ans molasses is canceled out by the waste. Even that would be closer to a proper recipe than it weighing one amount in and over 50% less on the out. That makes no mathematical sense. And all it did is make a really neat mod useless. Like sealy said. Why even use it if you get so little out of it
@@gtmddn Well, the dust cloud is just effect, it's not a measurable amount of anything. I haven't looked at the weight but I should think it adds up. Volume is not the same as weight. Not only that but water doesn't add to the volume like when making concrete. I should think molasses doesn't add much either. The only waste I think you would get is what ends up on the floor and not processed much the same as any harvester and that's not accounted for in game. And the grass stuck to a mower is not accounted for.
@@MarkThor_11 ok outside of being 100% literal. Which I'm not trying to be. My point is. Liters in this game appears to be based on weight. And if that is the case. All weight has to be accounted for. It doesn't matter if the volume of the hay water and molasses is condensed down to pellets from a bulk state. The weight of those product still have to be accounted for. Now the water can be neutral as it most likely evaporates. And maybe the molasses weight reduced from evaporation. But that still leave the solid weight of the 6000l bale of hay or staw or grass. You should still get close to the same weight out as you put in. Minus what ever small amounts of waste there may be. That's all I'm saying. There is no way that it should lose 50 plus % in weight.
@@gtmddn Like I said I haven't tested the weight differences. But the capacity is treated as a volume , not weight. Like if it was under even more pressure it would be less volume. Look at the Vicon Fastbale for example, that can compress a bale more than a standard baler so instead of having smaller bales with bales being universal, it has denser, heavier bales
I tested all different sizes of liftable, did 10 tests and it crashed every time 10/10
I turned 200,000lt of straw into pellets & only got 49,846lt of pellets back...
Se hace muy tedioso, estaría bien una empacadora que convierta heno o paja en pacas de pellets y poderlas meter para destruir
I can't use loose straw just bales
I can’t use the liftable bales it crashes my ps5 every time
Mr Sealyp What is the name of the map?
It makes perfect sense that selling in bulk yields greater returns than palletizing. Just imagine if one had to bag their huge wheat harvest like they did a 100 years ago. Sorry, I think the Pellets add value, but Palletizer is just to SMALL of an operation to be viable. Even IF the price was %20 to %30 greater than bulk. Basically, the concept is all wrong. Buying Palletized Pellets would be hugely more expensive than buying in bulk.
tested some things myself.. Sell the baler as it flings you into the sky.. Waste of money.. Dont bother with bales, run the peletizer directly on the field and drive and empty at a sideby trailer.. Wins tons of time there.. The only interesting thing about pellets is that it sels for ~5 times the money in comparrisson to hay.. If it wasnt for the cash-multiplayer, id uninstall the mod/dlc entirely..
I see in this comment section there seems to be alot of conflict on litres to kg so I done a conversion on google 1ltr = 1kg, on this basis straw haveset does not give you what you put in even if you add the weight of mollasis technically you would have a little more in weight its called bulking out thing is production of it wins in real life farmer who buys it pays more than it costs to make unfortunatly thats the sad fact, as for the game well productions across the board to what you would have in the real world are way off but its a game least you are all not putting your real hard earned money into it lol
So the sellpoint is named totally wrong! It must be named pellet sellpoint instead of pallet sellpoint - That's a shame. That makes half of the pack's content absolutely pointless!