UPDATE (1/15/23): According to independent reviewers from CES and the Roadshow, It's looking the the Crystal is delivering on many of it's promises! The FOV, Colors and Black Levels are all better than the Aero and no distortions. The build quality is not as good, but the visual experience seems to be impressing people. Unfortunately the "diopter adjustment" that they mentioned during the launch event seems to have been dropped. Pimax are developing a magnetic frame that will go over the lenses that I assume 3rd parties will use to make prescription lens adapters? So, in reality the Crystal is doing the same thing as everyone else for those with Myopia... nothing, and leaving it up to others to offer solutions to fix it. Hope that helps those of you interested in the Crystal. I'll update this again if any worthwhile news becomes available in the future.
H Christian, It is hard to get excited with Pimax, usually it just ends up in disappointment. Hoping this time might be different but won't be surprised if it is not. Appreciate the comment and the view.
@@nickg2691 Thanks Nick, I think that is probably an internal thing on my part... I REALLY want to be excited about this headset, but I know better after past experience. I probably projected that onto the comment... but I wasn't offended or anything by it, I really appreciated his compliment!
When it comes to Pimax, I take the "Believe it when I see it" approach. As for 3rd quarter, I'd be surprised if it's available in the 1st quarter next year, Pimax is well known for delays. I'm not really a Pimax basher, just observations of their past practices. I really do hope they can pull it off and most importantly, it ends up being a "quality" product that will last and not constantly need to be RMA'ed due to failures (you listening Valve?)
I agree 100% with what you are saying. I think a lot of us are on the same page with Pimax. I am hopeful but not overly excited about it either. Thanks for the comment Jack!
@@maximme That may be true, but the Meta Quest Pro is 10x the headset that anything Pimax has come out with so far. I had a reservation for a Crystal but after experiencing the shoddy build of the 8KX I backed out and walked away from it due to lack of confidence in Pimax. Maybe it will exceed expectations, but I will need to see several end user reviews of production units to be persuaded of that. I know people like to bash the Quest Pro (mostly over the company who makes it and the price), but having owned and used one every day for the last two months it is far and away the best VR Headset I have ever used. No headset, not even the Aero, has an optical stack that can compete with the Quest Pro. That being said, I have an Aero on order and it should ship any day. I think it will be an interesting comparison and am looking forward to it.
Thank you for this video! This is the first time I'm hearing of the Pimax Crystal, and I'm super excited that it's able to compete with the Aero. Can't wait to try it out! :-D
Thanks for the comment Ben, Yes I think we are all waiting to try it out... or the very least see a review of a nonpartial reviewer try it out! I'm hoping this could be a great headset, but time will tell.
Fantastic video, I truly hope your channel takes off as well. I have a larger ipd like you do and unfortunately it seems most everyone else is rocking within the specs of most headsets so it would be great if you could speak on the ipd of the crystal if/when it comes out.
Appreciate the view and the compliment Braden. Ya if the channel takes off that would be great, but honestly I get so much positive feedback from my viewers that it has already been worth it! It's rewarding to know I've helped a lot of people already with VR and Motion Sims. I'm anxiously awaiting any news of the Pimax headsets and if they can do what they promise, I'll find a way to buy one for my roomscale setup. I'm leaning toward the 12k Qled... but I am worried about God Rays in it so we will have to see. This Crystal may be a good alternative if they ever get them out the door. Fingers Crossed!
I really hope Pimax steps up in terms of quality control in both hardware and software, no other headset I've tried has the weird glitches I sometimes experience with my 8KX. I want to support this company because I love that they are trying to give the consumers what they want, but to me things just feel sloppy. My 8KX is just sitting in it's box because I can throw on the G2 and play with no issues, it's the trust in the unit that I don't have with the Pimax.
Hi deon91, can you tell me more about the specific glitches you are having? I've never used a Pimax so I'm very interested in the experience... both the good and the bad. I'm also hoping Pimax pulls this off as it could be an amazing device if they do. Thanks for the comment.
Mrtv Sebastian does not seem to have issues with it. It installed it in realtime with no issues and base stations worked the first time with index controller, the resolution is very good and the glass are good, the audio dmas seems good as well. So what are the issues?
Love your videos! I was still too sensitive to distortions on the sides of the aero and found the text a little bloomy, left me a little disappointed to be honest, I really want a high clarity daily driver and I hope the crystal is the one. Thanks again for your thoughts I always learn new things, your videos are great.
Thanks Jey, I'm humbled by your praise... I didn't think anyone would even have an interest in my thoughts so it is inspiring when you say you always learn new things from my videos. Hopefully either the Crystal or the 12K will work for you. According to Pimax the 12k has ZERO distortions. So I think the 12K might be your best option due to the WIde FOV, so even if it has distortions, they will be way out at the sides. I guess we will see when people actually get to try these for themselves! Thanks for being a GYGO viewer.
Same the distortions are really an immersion breaker for me. Otherwise the Varjo would be a good headset, I also send it back because of it. And waiting for the 4090 still having trouble hitting 90 fps in the racesims I like. But VR is developing nicely, the Varjo truly showed me a glance in the future. We are almost there....perfect VR.
@@Hani_Santa Ya, Aero was a whole new experience for me too, sorry to hear about the immersion breaking distortions... I can totally get that being an issue. I also think we are going to need 4090's to even have a chance to run the Pimax 12k with any kind of settings turned up. We will see.
Hmmm, I still don't feel totally piqued. I admit a lot of these specs are a bit above me though. Around 7:50 you addressed the huge issue that is big for me as well -- will it get total blacks, as that will be just about make or break for me as well.... I am also a glasses wearer and if this Crystal will indeed allow you to dial in your doctor's prescription and take your glasses off, that could be a huge attraction, but apparently they haven't clarified that yet.
Thanks for watching Mike. I think the QLED will give us the best chance at black blacks without using OLED... but to my knowledge nobody has put them in a VR Headset yet so we will see. I do think there will be some "bloom" or glow around bright objects on a black background but that is just a guess. I think the prescription deal is likely just new "prescription" lenses that you exchange in the headset, so not really any different than getting prescription lens covers that you can do on most other headsets. But as you said they haven't 100% clarified yet. I'm not going to get excited until someone objective can try the headsets out and I'll probably lean more toward the 12K QLED for the wider FOV, but need to even see if these things become a reality first. Fingers crossed!
Thanks Pierce. We still need to wait until someone outside of Pimax actually uses this thing to be sure, but my fingers are crossed that it all works like they say it will. I do still love my Aero, but this thing might be better in the end. Time will tell, and thanks for the view and the comment!
@@VirtualAirTour I think I remember reading somewhere that it was around 20ppd due to the large FOV. I don't think it would even be in the same league as the Aero or the Crystal.
@@VirtualAirTour Ya that is still the generation where you had to give up clarity for FOV. The Upcoming 12k QLED will be the first to have both if it all works out. It has a Horizontal FOV of 200 and a PPD of 35 (the same as the Aero). It they truly can pull off the "no distortions" it will be THE headset for everyone with a pocketbook deep enough to afford it.
I suspect that changing out those monster lenses is going to be a lot more difficult, but might be wrong. One thing you have to be very careful of with interchangeable lenses is not to let any dust onto the screens. You could take the old Occulus DK2 lenses out, and I know they could collect dust very easy when you did that. But nice idea Dennis and who knows, maybe it isn't as hard as I think it is.
Great review! I think I'll wait for the 12K as the Crystal seems a lot like the Aero I already have. One headset in hand is worth two headsets in the fall (or whenever they are actually available). I wonder how the clarity will compare between the Crystal and the 12K QLED.
I agree, I think if I have to purchase one it would be the 12K. Looks like the clarity of the 12k is 35ppd so the same as the lower ppd lenses on the Crystal. The biggest things I'm interested in are the black levels in dark scenes with the QLED and the possible larger Vertical FOV that the Pimax Headsets might offer. I sure hope these things live up to at least some of the hype! I love that saying BTW. Thanks for the comment Virtual.
@@dennismmm it's poorly named, it actually adjusts pixels per degree, but without the performance hit of doing so in the Varjo Base software. I have a quick video that provides my settings.
Yep... And that's what I'm worried about, they always say if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. Fingers crossed that they get it right this time. Appreciate the comment!
I tried to like the Varjo Aero I really did, for me the barrel distortions are really bad (when you look up the floor bows upward like a smile pattern when you look downward it bows downward). It breaks the immersion and makes me feel motion sickness within 5 minutes. It definitely doesn’t feel like 90 hz to me, the movement feels a bit sluggish when looking around quickly. The FOV is pretty small too (coming from a G2 and a valve index). While the clarity is nice, there’s just too many negatives vs positives. I know everyone will have a different experience, it was not the best for me. I am returning it and going to order and try the 8KX.
Yep I totally understand Sulkey. I assume you had the experimental New distortion correction ON right? If you want, before you send it back, you might try messing with how it sits on your head. I had the same problem until I really dialed in the sweet spot and got rid of most of the barrel distortion for me. Also, keep in mind the new Pimax 12k Qled is supposedly right around the corner so make sure the trade in program is still going with Pimax because then you can trade the 8KX in for the 12K if it ends up being a great headset. We will see how the new headset works out soon I hope. Either way, thanks for the comment and feedback on your experience.
Just got a email from pimax for a preorder. Had to pay $ 30 dollars to lock in. It says amazon will do the shipping. Im hoping that will start shipping by the end of the month. I have allwise been a oculus fan boy since the DK2 days but the meta pro just isnt what iI was hoping for. My quest 2 is over 2 yrs old and the battery is shot. Im running the bobo batterys to keep it going LOL. This pimax seems to hit a sweet spot so im willing to give it a try. Most of my apps are on steam anyways so im not loosing anything switching.
Great Update Shadow, please keep us in the loop if you get one soon. I haven't seen any independent "reviews" at all and would like to know how this thing looks in real life. I'm excited by the potential but unexcited at the lack of communication from Pimax. Congrats!
After my experience with Pimax 8KX I am not very optimistic that the Crystal will deliver on build quality, which is a major issue on their other headsets. I ended up returning my 8KX.
Yes I'm certain that the build quality will be lacking... it's almost a Pimax Trademark. BUT if the headset delivers the experience I want (and doesn't fall apart using it), for me I can live with that. It's going to be one extreme to the other going from the Varjo Aero (one of the best build qualities) to the Pimax Crystal... but we will see. Thanks for the comment.
Nice video. I actually ordered the Aero and then cancelled it for the pimax 8k (currently have a G2). I really want to experience more FOV and I'm hoping that the Crystal or 12k will be a good combo of FOV and aero-like resolution when the trade in program goes live.
Hi M.A., If Pimax can pull this off, I think the 12k will be THE headset if you have a high end system. The Crystal should give about the same performance as the 8kx as the number of pixels is the same. We will see, thanks for the comment and please let me know what you think of the 8k.
@@GYGOtvi don’t think we need more than 8k. It is like tv, 4k is the max i would take. I think the next nvidia 5090 32GB ddr7 will be true 8k60 fps at ultra settings and would match perfectly the pimax crystal. The best would be if one day pimax could propose in the same package the 200 fov glass and the crystal glass that we could switch depending of the app you want to use. 12k is not before 3 to 4 year with probably the next nvidia 6090 or 7090. It is too much to handle. Two 6k screen simultaneously with ultra setting is a lot. I heard the ceo and i think he confirmed what i said. It is more an R&D development for the next 4 to 5 years. Pimax is on the right track. They need to increase their build manufactory, and increase to produce in more quantities that wiuld allow to reduce the price and become the reference. The resolution is good the tracking is decent with inside out tracking and perfect with base stations and index controller. The lens are good the dmas audio is good, the software serms good with their own runtime and openvr. They can now focus to stability and production and their r&d can focus on reducing the form factor, and reduce the price and make partnership with big names in the industry to develop application educative and gaming. They really need to bring back the headset in the 900$ range. I bought my headset samsung 6 years ago at 550$ CDN if i remember and it was sometime below that. And the headset is really good 2880x1600 oled 90hz with inside out tracking. I still use it today in fs2020 and it is not ridiculous at all compare to today. It is fine grain resolution and superb color and black. I am still surprised today how good it is.
@@CC-gt3roHi CC, I didn't do the math but whatever it takes to get the Crystal's resolution at a wider FOV is all you need. The Crystal looks amazing. As for faster graphic cards, I think with Dynamic Foveated Rendering, you will probably be able to drive it with today's technology. I'm not sure if you could do swappable lenses, I like the idea, but wide FOV Lenses are a far different shape than what the Crystal uses. I 'm hoping the 12k QLED will have both without having to sway anything. Time will tell, but certainly we are on a new frontier with the clarity of the Crystal and the Aero! Thanks for the comment and the views.
Cant wait,since my 8kx is amazing my favorite headset out of all 6 i have or tried,but pimax has a history of promising and not delivering back in the day of kickstarter,i didnt experience that as i got into it later but alpt of people are skeptical.
Thanks for the comment Doofersmith, I'll be more excited once real people get to try these new headsets. I was so pumped when the Vive Pro 2 was released and it was a major disappointment. Hopefully we will know soon if these new "reality" headsets live up to the hype (or at least close).
Great timely review. Glad I cancelled my Aero when they offered it to me some time ago, as this would be a significant reduction in cost, but like you said, needs to be seen to be believed.. Wondering what is the relevance of the 12k if this delivers all it promises.
Thanks for the comment. The 12k will have all the benefits of the Crystals 35ppd lens, with a much wider FOV and supposedly no distortions. If Pimax pulls it off, it will be the first high PPD headset with a large FOV!
Thanks for the comment Goat Face. Good chance it will... Valve usually knock's it out of the park. Just wish we could get an idea of how it is progressing, even if it is still year's away. Finger's Crossed!
If this headset will have inside out tracking and no need for base stations, it sounds like a good possibility for me to look at. I do SIM racing or allot of just sitting games, so I don't do allot of moving around at this time. Seems like Pimax users have had problems in the past versions to get them to work, so I will just watch many reviewers videos when it should arrive on the market.
Yep that might be a good choice for that. I know the inside out tracking is a BIG plus for those who don't have lighthouses. If the visuals are anywhere near the Aero, it will be a great headset for your racing! Thanks for the comment dathyr.
From what i saw they already improved them a lot and the front plate lighthouse works perfectly with base station 2.0 and index controllers. I have a samsung odyssey v1 from 6 years ago and inside out tracking works perfectly, and it is no use for fs2020. It is just useful to watch videos in the home desktop. And it has only two cameras, the pimax has 4 cameras like the reverb g2. So it will be good enough.
I'll wait to see the performance of the headset in DCS before buying. If it is my old one, reprojection was poorly implemented, fps were bad in medium FOV at 60% resolution without Antialiasing ingame. No more powerpoint presentations from Pimax, I will check DCS settings, fps, compatibility with OpenXR, driver quality, etc. Thanks for the head-up though, hopefully promises will become reality !
You are speaking my language Krostouin. DCS is my reason for all this stuff. I've never had, or used any Pimax headset so thanks for your feedback from your experience! Appreciate the view and the comment.
Brother, my experience with Pimax is that you wait until the product is available on Amazon. I’d never do a preorder. The experience is consistently terrible. But the product is usually good after you get through the headaches
Thanks for the info Nonya... I've heard basically the same from A LOT of previous Pimax Owners. I would never preorder one either, especially before any independent reviewers got their hands on them. They have just over a week to release the Crystal (they said Q3), I guess they better hurry :)
Do you think it is possible for other companies to offer lenses swap for current VR headsets? I mean there are many companies with long manufacturing optics history that would be able to produce kickass lenses, but don't have the expertise to make the whole VR headset.
Hi Rhosta, appreciate the question. First and foremost I'm no expert on optics and I assume you are talking about some company making Aspheric lenses to replace current Fresnel lenses in headsets? The problem is you really have to tune the lenses to work together with the display in the headset so I don't think an optics company would be able to do a better job than the manufacturer. Now what I think could work is if they partner together... then they might be able to do something. It is my understanding that there is so much more than just taking a Fresnel lens and then just put in an aspheric lens because of all the distortion it creates. Now if the Crystal actually ever gets released and say the lenses suck, then maybe some other company could produce something because the Crystal's lenses are already Aspheric and they are designed to be modular. I hope that answers the question and thanks for watching.
Hi Shadow, LOL and I'm sure this has NOTHING to do with the Quest Pro also being priced at $1500 right? Regardless I was happy to see the price drop. I'm interested to hear what people say about the experience but I may hold off and put that $1500 toward the 12k QLED if these things actually look good. We will see. Appreciate the comment.
Congrats on the win... you might try the 8kx... it might be close enough. I have an IPD the other way (69.5) and I could still use the G2 (68), so might be worth a try. However, if you are not going to be using it... you could send it my way to review :), I've never tried any Pimax headset. Appreciate the view and the comment.
Hi, is it possible to manualy reduce vertical resolution(along with vertical fov) in vr headset, if I need to improve performance? I am trying to gather information, so I can buy my first VR headset and racing games are primary concern. I have Vega 64 GPU and while not too slow, it will probably show its age in VR.
Appreciate the question. For the Steam based headsets that I've used, you can "downsample" the image as a whole but not really block out part of the resolution vertically. You can kind of do that horizontally in the Pimax headsets... but those are the only ones I'm aware of. Motion reprojection is also an option that helps but it isn't implemented on all headsets. Hope that helps. You could also look at a stand alone headset like the Quest 2 if you don't think you have enough PC Horsepower.
I’m hoping the 12k is what they say it is but not holding my breath. Until then I’m enjoying my Aero for sim racing…I agree 100% on room scale…the Aero is so much clearer than the Quest 2 but for no sim games I’ll take the freedom of the Quest 2 every time and just airlink it to my PC. Hoping project Cambria is a step up and I’ll move to that for room scale. Thanks for the video 😊👍🏼
Thanks for the comment DamienG! I agree 100% with your 12k feelings. As for Cambria, from what I'm seeing I don't think it is going to be ideal for gaming. Seems to me to be more focused on AR/Productivity and social VR and I don't think it is going to be cheap either. I personally don't think AR is really the format for gaming, it will be great for training and stuff but for gaming I see very few applications for it that would be better than just an overall VR only experience. Of course I've been wrong before so I guess time will tell. If Pimax delivers, it will be THE headset for roomscale in my opinion... of course that is always a BIG IF when it comes to Pimax. You can be I'll be covering the 12k when we get more details, good or bad, so stay tuned!
@@GYGOtv I’ll still likely get the Cambria even for just the modest resolution bump. I’m sure it will still play games like the Quest 2. Not sure on the Pimax for room scale…I’ve just never found their headsets comfortable enough to move around in. Cambria looks like a good physical format for moving around in room scale. I think I’ll get the 12k just for my motion sim rig. Looking forward to all the new toys for sure! Thanks!
@@damiengvideos4337 Well please let me know what you think of the Cambria for sure! Pimax on paper should be perfect for roomscale... but as we have talked about, wait until we actually see one in action before getting too excited. I'm sure Cambria will play games too, just don't know if it will be the best choice but I'm excited to see what it can do. Please keep up posted on what you think of it when you get one!
Thanks for the comment Grey, I think lots of people share your pessimism. Now to be fair Pimax actually showed a physical 12k QLED on MRTV in an interview a few months back. Now they didn't turn it on so who knows if it was more than a case... but they did have a physical headset. Of course as I've said, I won't get excited about ANY of these new Pimax headsets until someone not connected to Pimax actually gets to try one out. Hopefully we will see that soon, but I'm not holding my breath. Appreciate the view.
... Also REVERB G2 is great on the paper. but I hate WMR: not easy to use and too many crashes (in my experience). Instead, I like VARIO BASE: simple to use, and I works! So... I do not know PIMAX SOFTWARE, but I hope it works fine. Software is important.
That is a great point Blustering, I agree with you 100% on WMR! I don't have any experience with PiTools, but I do know they offer a lot of adjustments. Can anyone out there comment on how stable and easy to use PiTools is?
PiTool stability: 5/5. PiTool ease of use: 3/5 - you need a "tinkerer mindset", there's lots of bad translations (e.g. "Close" means that a setting is "Off"), and it's possible that a headset goes dark if you enter incompatible settings. But ease of use has improved slowly over the years - 3 years ago I would've rated ease of use 2/5.
@@RoarMcRipHelmet Thanks for the info Roar! A "tinkerers mindset" seems to be needed by everything that I own right now so got that covered. The motion platform is getting a lot of my attention right now with the new upgrade that I'm working on. PiTools will be an important part of the success of their new headsets. I heard there's A LOT of adjustability you can do in there correct?
There is a lot of adjustability in PiTool, but it can be argued that much of this adjustability is for things that the Varjo Aero already calibrates correctly (e.g. horizontal and vertical IPD offset, color balance…) and thus is there to compensate for shortcomings with the Pimax headsets.
I so agree. You can import older Oculus titles (love the Vader Immortal Series), but I haven't heard of anyone being able to import any Quest 2 titles yet. If anyone know a way please let us know. I really want to play Tales from Galaxies Edge! Thanks for the comment 04dram04.
Great video! You are a genuine VR enthusiast. Quick question: is Pimax's module going to use WiGig 2 or version 1? Will it require a PCIe slot? (hope not)
I have no idea and I don't think Pimax has gone into any detail either. We will have to wait and see I guess. Thanks for the compliment and the question. Sorry I didn't have an answer for you yet.
I am no a specialist but if you send 60 ghz signal you obviously need a receiver. So pcie card is probably the way to go…How do you want to receive that? With a Usb4 adapter? What is thunderbolt bandwidth ?40gbits/sec the 4.0 version. Is it enough for 2x4k screen simultaneously for 8k resolution? And if you compressed the data you need to send that at 90/120 fps to the gpu…
Ya, the 12k is what I'm most interested in... but if they actually get one of these out it might be a good sign that the 12k is just around the corner. Time will tell I guess. Thanks for the comment.
Good Luck Clive, let us know what you think of it after you get it. If you want to support the channel you can use my affiliate link and it won't cost you anything more varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html. Either way, I appreciate the view!
Hi Mr. Majestic. I assume you are referencing the GPU? Looks like it has a minimum of a GTX 1060 OR AMD Radeon Rx 480 so it looks like it will work with AMD based GPU's unlike the Aero. Another positive for the Crystal. Just FYI, "Full Resolution mode" requires a RTX 20 series or and AMD Radeon 5000 or higher. Thanks for the question.
@@GYGOtv Hello Mark, As always thank you for your reply to my post. Just like you, I'm really looking forward to some heads-on reviews of these new Pimax headsets. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope that these new headsets live up to the hype. Keep on gaming ^_^
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Hello Adrenaline. The reason I asked Mark my question was because I had a friend just recently build me a top-of-the-line AMD System. My current GPU is the PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6900 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6 Memory, Powered by AMD RDNA™ 2, Raytracing, PCI Express 4.0. Thanks for your input. ^^
@@mr.majestic8713 Wow that is a pretty nice system Mr. Majestic. I'd like to hear how this all runs on that. I'm personally looking forward to the 4000 series GPUs in hopes there is a big jump in performance. For the way I like to play, my 3080ti is just powerful enough to do it, but I still get some stutters here and there. I think one more generational leap will hopefully get me where I want to be... of course not if I'm driving a 12k screen at that point (Looking at you Pimax 12K QLED) so really this madness never ends :)
If memory serves I think they said it would work on either brand so there is hope for the AMD folks out there. It would be nice to have an option for the Radeon owners to enjoy the great visuals of the Aspheric Lens! Thanks for watching our content OperatorPuski!
This is it Pimax. Can you deliver the goods or not? I would hate this to be a gimmicky disappointment. There`s no other company other than Pimax doing this kind of thing. A failure now would be very damaging for them
Yep, that is why we need regular people to try out these things before anyone "Pre-Orders" or anything like that. That is one of the reasons I'm so against their "Trade-in Program", we have no idea how good these things will really be. I am hopeful however, they do say "even a blind squirrel gets a nut sometimes", I'm hoping it's Pimax's turn to get a nut!
@@XR7799 That is exactly why we all have our fingers crossed that they pull it off. People are understandably skeptical from Pimax's history. I worry that they are taking so long to let reviewers try it... may indicate it isn't as good as they claim. I think we all want the larger FOV... but that doesn't matter if the headset is crap and that is what we are all struggling with. Hopefully someone will get to actually use one soon so we can either get on board or start looking somewhere else. Thanks for the comment, I think you are saying what all of us are thinking.
Hi Brent, Pre Orders are supposed to start shipping in April, they say by June they should have production up to where you can buy it without much delay. I'm going to tap on a couple extra months and say they will be shipping non-pre orders by Q4 is my guess. Also, just FYI... If you pre-order you will get the upgraded DMAS audio solution, after pre-orders it will come with more basic audio standard. Thanks for the question.
@@GYGOtv Thanks for the update. I bought the Aero about 3 weeks ago but haven't unboxed it yet because the people who have reviewed the crystal have set it is as good as the Aero but with a better FOV. I can't afford both. I might put the Aero on Ebay and lose a few hundred ...Not sure what to do.
@@brent4770 Ya that is a tough call. The Aero is a better built unit, the software is going to be far better too. Pimax is always hit or miss with their software from what I hear... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The Aero is also lighter... BUT all the things I hate about my Aero look to be resolved on the Crystal. PLUS if you do any roomscale, the Crystal should be wireless WITH A HOT SWAPPABLE BATTERY. One downside to the Crystal is that it has to run off the battery (license requirement for the XR2 chip I guess). So it will eventually run dead even if plugged into a PC. It looks like anywhere from 2 to 6 hours... There might be a work around by plugging it directly into a wall socket with one of the USB connections (like you do for your phone) and that seems to extend the usage BUT it will still run out. Of course you have a spare battery that you can just plug in when it does... but that does seem to be a downside. As for advice, see if you can sell the AERO without losing anything... you also might check with Varjo, I don't know if they have a 30 day money back or not. I think it was just a 14 day but I don't remember. If there is anything else I can answer for you, please just let me know. I hope this helps with your decision.
@@GYGOtv It has!! : ) All I do is flight sims so I'll go a head and unbox it. Next year I can get another if one comes out that is great like an Aero with bigger FOV and OLED : ). I'll keep wishing. lol Thanks for your help!!
Yes the headset is also wireless, so you can do roomscale without being tethered to a computer. The battery slips in the back and the cool thing is it is hot swappable... so when it runs out you can quickly exchange it without having to interrupt your game. Pretty good design if you ask me. Thanks for the question.
after buying a pimax 8kx I'm just going to say it, the software side of these headsets isnt even usable... ontop of that mine is bricked form a software update.
Wow, thanks for the info CRiMSOM. I've heard that same thing from other people and then some people say the software is great. I've never used PiTools so feedback like this is great to have. I hope they fix your issue, keep us posted and thanks for watching our content!
Pimax makes the best VR headsets, by far. Largest vertical FOVs, largest horizontal FOVs, highest refresh rates, PPD at least on par (if not higher) with every other mainstream headset (besides Varjo Aero which doesn't have much going for it besides high PPD), big sweet spot, very nice colours, contrast, and blacks (after a couple quick adjustments in Pi-Tool), some of the least screen-door effect on the market, some of the least godrays on the market, some of the least haze/bloom on the market. Heck, Pimax even gives users the freedom to increase FOV even further at the cost of refresh rate and vice-versa. Even at the highest refresh rate (which means lowest FOV), the FOV is still larger than any other headset, lol! All other companies should be embarrassed. The only thing with Pimax is that it's not as much for plebs (AKA normies) as some other headsets due to usually requiring more tinkering of settings for games, seting the IPD properly with vision tests (don't just punch in your #), etc.. If Pimax delivers with the advancements being made with the upcoming 12K and Crystal - at least from the info that's been revealed - Pimax will be even further ahead of the rest of the industry as the 12K and Crystal are way more than just lens and panel upgrades...way more.
Thanks for the comment Sam... I'm sure you are going to get a lot of other people who disagree with you on Pimax being the best "by far" but we will see. I completely agree that IF Pimax pulls of the 12k OLED that it will be THE headset for most enthusiasts... but there is the problem, it is a BIG "IF" and to my knowledge nobody outside the company has had the chance to try it. Until that happens, I'll reserving my excitement but I DO HOPE they pull it off because it is exactly the headset I want. We will see.
I am very suspicious about Crystal. However, To me the real Holy Grail about to come is not the Crystal, is the Panasonic Shiftall Megane X , I do not why the community is not talking enough about this headset. It has Display Port, it is super light 250 grams, micro oled pancake lenses with perfect blacks, it has sound solution, it has both tracking option (light house and inside out), 2560 per eye, it is produced by a high quality company as Pananosic, At about only US1.000 . It is a totally Varjo Killer in my opinion.
Hi Pedro, thank you so much for the comment and for watching our stuff! I personally am very excited about the possibility of the Megane X headset... I LOVE OLED displays and I REALLY like the ability to dial in my eye prescription so no more glasses. I think the reason most aren't covering this right now is until people really see that it WILL become a Mass Produced product, they are hesitant to talk about it... Lessons learned from Deca Gear I'd say. Don't get me wrong, I am pulling for it to come out but taking a prototype to full consumer product seems to be a big step to take. As for me, I'm worried a little about the FOV and also the fact it seems like it will still be tethered. I think that is what has me more excited about the Pimax (even though I share your suspicions on Pimax in general) is the Crystal's wireless aspect for roomscale. I can tell you, once you do roomscale wirelessly, it is really hard to go back to tethered... that is the main reason I don't use my Aero for roomscale and instead still use my Vive Pro. Anyway, once this headset becomes more a reality I'm sure reviewers will cover it, and if it does deliver I'm sure it will generate the excitement that you expect. We all want VR to grow and this headset has the potential to do that. Time will tell I guess.
@@GYGOtv Thanks so much for your content and your answer. The problem is that the company is informing more on their japanesse twitter account that you can check it out. They just claimed that their are about to start mass productions, last interview they say they´ll launch next month. Unlike Pimax, Panasoic has japanesse culture (They do more than they talk). Here is a bet for you: Megane X will be in the store way sooner than Crystal. I am a DCS player, do not care much about room scaling.
@@pedroarraztoa2789 O I'm sure Megane X will be in the store first... Hell I'd almost bet that the Megane X 2 will be in the stores before the Crystal! I lost even more faith in Pimax when they announced that Nintendo Switch knockoff (cardboard VR) product. It's like stop announcing and start producing!!! Again, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt about these new headsets but if someone doesn't actually get to try one soon I'll be doubting Pimax even more. Again I just worry about the FOV on the Megane X because if it's like the Quest 2, then I'm not really interested in going backward.
LOL thanks for the comment sunken, I wouldn't say you are wrong and I certainly wouldn't bet money they will release soon. I'm hoping they have learned from past mistakes but won't be surprised if they haven't. This all feels very familiar to their past releases.
LOL yep, exactly! And I'm sure the 12k QLED will still be out before the end of the year too :) Got to love Pimax... well at least their consistency in over promising.
Thanks for the comment vike fon, Ya that is the only thing I hate about Ferrari's too :) Actually I think around the $1500 price point is going to be common pricing for all the new Quality VR Headsets coming out. We already know the Quest Pro is going to be a lot higher than the Quest 2, and I can't imagine the Valve Deckard being less than $1000 if it ever comes out. The Crystal is priced at $1900, but does include controllers and no need for base stations. My personal opinion is the Aero is a good upgrade choice for those who already have Basestations/Controllers and the Crystal might be right for those without that stuff... Of course that still depends on how good the Crystal REALLY is in use... Time will tell I guess.
@@GYGOtv BUT Quest PRO has AUG reality . non of the others have that. VARJO has something like that for business , its the coolest thing on earth. Quest PRO will be a game changer. You can see your flight sim keyboards....
@@maximme Ya I'm not all that excited about AR for immersion and entertainment. I think it will be a fad for gaming that will eventually die down. I can't think of an experience in gaming that would be better in AR than just straight VR. I get your point on being able to see the keyboard in flight sims, but unless you have a complete cockpit mockup, I think just seeing your real rig mixed with the Simulation will be very immersion breaking. I might be wrong about all this but I've thought about it a lot and that is my feeling on it. NOW AR for training and productivity is a whole other animal and I can certainly see the value in it there. I hope your right about the Quest Pro being a game changer... but I don't personally see it for entertainment.
I think your comment should be "10 months later and the competition is not available at retail yet" because the Crystal is real, about to go to mass production and it does look to be delivering on the promises it made. I think it will be in the market at scale by the end of Summer at the latest. We will see LOL.
@Get Your Game On The point is the title of "Just got competition" didn't age well. It's not even competition until you can buy it. That's not your fault but Pimax's terrible way of communicating launch dates.
@@buenasondas1147 Yep I get your point... my point was something was being made that could potentially compete with the Aero vs. nothing even in development that can match the Aero, so I guess take it as you want. This isn't anything new in the VR space... products take a while to come out, hell look at Deckard. But you are right, Pimax doesn't communicate well for sure. Really not an argument here and I stand by my original statement that the Crystal will give the Aero a run for its money. Appreciate your comments.
@@GYGOtv Regardless of our discussion about your title, I'm looking forward to this headset. Do I wish it did the same thing at 1/2 the weight and bulk? Yes, but we won't see that for awhile. Are you interested in the Bigscreen VR as well?
@@buenasondas1147 Ahh the weight, yes my concern as well but heck I guess I needed to work on my neck muscles :) Also don't like that it discharges the battery even when plugged in but I guess that is an XR2 Chip requirement. Haven't done too much with big screen because all the other headsets had glare issues, this one might be better, especially with the black blacks!
Yep, pretty poor track record... I'm hoping this time they may have figured it out... but not holding my breath. If the headset actually delivers, I'm willing to give it a shot, but need to see it in the hands of non-Pimax folks first! Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for watching Nexe... No I don't think Pimax stole anything from Aero, they had the headset designed for the 12k already. Plus the Aero didn't originate the aspherical lens design, it's been around since the beginning of VR, I don't think the Pimax headsets will be anywhere near the quality of the Aero, and until somebody tries it I don't even know if it's going to work. I guess time will tell. One thing most of my viewers know, if I want to say something I will, you always get my honest opinion. Appreciate the comment.
Thanks for the comment REZZA2020. I think many people share your view... and deservedly so. For me, this headset has so much potential, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until someone actually gets to try it out... Then I'm sure I'll be disappointed :) Figures are crossed that maybe Pimax has learned something from their past mistakes... but I'm not holding my breath, that is for sure. Time will tell I guess.
@@GYGOtv I viewed the CEO, his dispassionate disinterest in the interview is all I needed to know. You are more forgiving then myself. I do know they share zero in common with the likes of Varjo who are pushing the very limits of VR technology. It is a very old fashioned marketing trick- go overboard with specs and features- yet, consistently deliver terrible products. I think its important to consider the ecosystem a person is part of when buying a HMD- and its future prospects. Sorry, but I really do dislike everything this company stands for. On the positive, your reviews are unique and helpful. Thank you
@@REZZA2020 It's too bad you have such hate for Pimax. I think they have the best headsets in the industry...by far. Where's this apparent video with the CEO you speak of?
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UPDATE (1/15/23): According to independent reviewers from CES and the Roadshow, It's looking the the Crystal is delivering on many of it's promises! The FOV, Colors and Black Levels are all better than the Aero and no distortions. The build quality is not as good, but the visual experience seems to be impressing people. Unfortunately the "diopter adjustment" that they mentioned during the launch event seems to have been dropped. Pimax are developing a magnetic frame that will go over the lenses that I assume 3rd parties will use to make prescription lens adapters? So, in reality the Crystal is doing the same thing as everyone else for those with Myopia... nothing, and leaving it up to others to offer solutions to fix it. Hope that helps those of you interested in the Crystal. I'll update this again if any worthwhile news becomes available in the future.
The most thorough, professional and unexcited presentation of all VR channels. Thank you!
That's why I enjoy watching Mark's videos. For the very reasons you stated. ^^
H Christian, It is hard to get excited with Pimax, usually it just ends up in disappointment. Hoping this time might be different but won't be surprised if it is not. Appreciate the comment and the view.
@@GYGOtv I took his comment to mean more facts less "hype", I wouldn't take the comment as a negative.
@@nickg2691 Thanks Nick, I think that is probably an internal thing on my part... I REALLY want to be excited about this headset, but I know better after past experience. I probably projected that onto the comment... but I wasn't offended or anything by it, I really appreciated his compliment!
@@GYGOtv it definitely was the greatest compliment I could give 👍
When it comes to Pimax, I take the "Believe it when I see it" approach. As for 3rd quarter, I'd be surprised if it's available in the 1st quarter next year, Pimax is well known for delays. I'm not really a Pimax basher, just observations of their past practices. I really do hope they can pull it off and most importantly, it ends up being a "quality" product that will last and not constantly need to be RMA'ed due to failures (you listening Valve?)
I agree 100% with what you are saying. I think a lot of us are on the same page with Pimax. I am hopeful but not overly excited about it either. Thanks for the comment Jack!
as with ALL, believe it WHEN its reviewed.
There is a state of flux
in this market.
META even have trouble coming out with the PRO.
@@maximme That may be true, but the Meta Quest Pro is 10x the headset that anything Pimax has come out with so far. I had a reservation for a Crystal but after experiencing the shoddy build of the 8KX I backed out and walked away from it due to lack of confidence in Pimax. Maybe it will exceed expectations, but I will need to see several end user reviews of production units to be persuaded of that. I know people like to bash the Quest Pro (mostly over the company who makes it and the price), but having owned and used one every day for the last two months it is far and away the best VR Headset I have ever used. No headset, not even the Aero, has an optical stack that can compete with the Quest Pro. That being said, I have an Aero on order and it should ship any day. I think it will be an interesting comparison and am looking forward to it.
Thank you for this video! This is the first time I'm hearing of the Pimax Crystal, and I'm super excited that it's able to compete with the Aero. Can't wait to try it out! :-D
Thanks for the comment Ben, Yes I think we are all waiting to try it out... or the very least see a review of a nonpartial reviewer try it out! I'm hoping this could be a great headset, but time will tell.
Fantastic video, I truly hope your channel takes off as well. I have a larger ipd like you do and unfortunately it seems most everyone else is rocking within the specs of most headsets so it would be great if you could speak on the ipd of the crystal if/when it comes out.
Appreciate the view and the compliment Braden. Ya if the channel takes off that would be great, but honestly I get so much positive feedback from my viewers that it has already been worth it! It's rewarding to know I've helped a lot of people already with VR and Motion Sims. I'm anxiously awaiting any news of the Pimax headsets and if they can do what they promise, I'll find a way to buy one for my roomscale setup. I'm leaning toward the 12k Qled... but I am worried about God Rays in it so we will have to see. This Crystal may be a good alternative if they ever get them out the door. Fingers Crossed!
I really hope Pimax steps up in terms of quality control in both hardware and software, no other headset I've tried has the weird glitches I sometimes experience with my 8KX.
I want to support this company because I love that they are trying to give the consumers what they want, but to me things just feel sloppy.
My 8KX is just sitting in it's box because I can throw on the G2 and play with no issues, it's the trust in the unit that I don't have with the Pimax.
Hi deon91, can you tell me more about the specific glitches you are having? I've never used a Pimax so I'm very interested in the experience... both the good and the bad. I'm also hoping Pimax pulls this off as it could be an amazing device if they do. Thanks for the comment.
Mrtv Sebastian does not seem to have issues with it. It installed it in realtime with no issues and base stations worked the first time with index controller, the resolution is very good and the glass are good, the audio dmas seems good as well. So what are the issues?
Love your videos! I was still too sensitive to distortions on the sides of the aero and found the text a little bloomy, left me a little disappointed to be honest, I really want a high clarity daily driver and I hope the crystal is the one. Thanks again for your thoughts I always learn new things, your videos are great.
Thanks Jey, I'm humbled by your praise... I didn't think anyone would even have an interest in my thoughts so it is inspiring when you say you always learn new things from my videos. Hopefully either the Crystal or the 12K will work for you. According to Pimax the 12k has ZERO distortions. So I think the 12K might be your best option due to the WIde FOV, so even if it has distortions, they will be way out at the sides. I guess we will see when people actually get to try these for themselves! Thanks for being a GYGO viewer.
Same the distortions are really an immersion breaker for me. Otherwise the Varjo would be a good headset, I also send it back because of it. And waiting for the 4090 still having trouble hitting 90 fps in the racesims I like. But VR is developing nicely, the Varjo truly showed me a glance in the future. We are almost there....perfect VR.
@@Hani_Santa Ya, Aero was a whole new experience for me too, sorry to hear about the immersion breaking distortions... I can totally get that being an issue. I also think we are going to need 4090's to even have a chance to run the Pimax 12k with any kind of settings turned up. We will see.
Hmmm, I still don't feel totally piqued. I admit a lot of these specs are a bit above me though. Around 7:50 you addressed the huge issue that is big for me as well -- will it get total blacks, as that will be just about make or break for me as well.... I am also a glasses wearer and if this Crystal will indeed allow you to dial in your doctor's prescription and take your glasses off, that could be a huge attraction, but apparently they haven't clarified that yet.
Thanks for watching Mike. I think the QLED will give us the best chance at black blacks without using OLED... but to my knowledge nobody has put them in a VR Headset yet so we will see. I do think there will be some "bloom" or glow around bright objects on a black background but that is just a guess. I think the prescription deal is likely just new "prescription" lenses that you exchange in the headset, so not really any different than getting prescription lens covers that you can do on most other headsets. But as you said they haven't 100% clarified yet. I'm not going to get excited until someone objective can try the headsets out and I'll probably lean more toward the 12K QLED for the wider FOV, but need to even see if these things become a reality first. Fingers crossed!
Very informative, thank you.
Thanks for the view and comment, glad you liked it.
The Varjo Aero was in my cart until this video came out. Great update!
Thanks Pierce. We still need to wait until someone outside of Pimax actually uses this thing to be sure, but my fingers are crossed that it all works like they say it will. I do still love my Aero, but this thing might be better in the end. Time will tell, and thanks for the view and the comment!
I would recommend people who are looking at an aero to wait for the crystal to come out. I'm an owner of an aero and it's a nice upgrade from my 8kx.
How big Is the clarity difference between the 8KX and Aero?
@@VirtualAirTour its quite alot clearer were I dont want to go back to the wider fov that the 8kx offers.
@@VirtualAirTour I think I remember reading somewhere that it was around 20ppd due to the large FOV. I don't think it would even be in the same league as the Aero or the Crystal.
@@GYGOtv oh wow. That is a significant difference.
@@VirtualAirTour Ya that is still the generation where you had to give up clarity for FOV. The Upcoming 12k QLED will be the first to have both if it all works out. It has a Horizontal FOV of 200 and a PPD of 35 (the same as the Aero). It they truly can pull off the "no distortions" it will be THE headset for everyone with a pocketbook deep enough to afford it.
I personally think they should have added the interchangeable lenses to the 12k hmd but they probably wanted to compete now with aero's ppd now
I suspect that changing out those monster lenses is going to be a lot more difficult, but might be wrong. One thing you have to be very careful of with interchangeable lenses is not to let any dust onto the screens. You could take the old Occulus DK2 lenses out, and I know they could collect dust very easy when you did that. But nice idea Dennis and who knows, maybe it isn't as hard as I think it is.
Great review!
I think I'll wait for the 12K as the Crystal seems a lot like the Aero I already have. One headset in hand is worth two headsets in the fall (or whenever they are actually available).
I wonder how the clarity will compare between the Crystal and the 12K QLED.
I agree, I think if I have to purchase one it would be the 12K. Looks like the clarity of the 12k is 35ppd so the same as the lower ppd lenses on the Crystal. The biggest things I'm interested in are the black levels in dark scenes with the QLED and the possible larger Vertical FOV that the Pimax Headsets might offer. I sure hope these things live up to at least some of the hype! I love that saying BTW. Thanks for the comment Virtual.
I have the aero but I'm going to wait until we get a hmd much closer to 60ppd
@@dennismmm have you tried lowering the FOV using the OpenXR Toolikt? If not, you may be amazed how sharp the Aero already is.
@@VirtualAirTour my guess is that it uses the same amount of pixels still? If so ill definitely have to try it!
@@dennismmm it's poorly named, it actually adjusts pixels per degree, but without the performance hit of doing so in the Varjo Base software. I have a quick video that provides my settings.
Both the 12k and crystal sound like a VR enthusiasts wet dream and to good to be true.
Yep... And that's what I'm worried about, they always say if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. Fingers crossed that they get it right this time. Appreciate the comment!
I tried to like the Varjo Aero I really did, for me the barrel distortions are really bad (when you look up the floor bows upward like a smile pattern when you look downward it bows downward). It breaks the immersion and makes me feel motion sickness within 5 minutes. It definitely doesn’t feel like 90 hz to me, the movement feels a bit sluggish when looking around quickly. The FOV is pretty small too (coming from a G2 and a valve index). While the clarity is nice, there’s just too many negatives vs positives. I know everyone will have a different experience, it was not the best for me. I am returning it and going to order and try the 8KX.
Yep I totally understand Sulkey. I assume you had the experimental New distortion correction ON right? If you want, before you send it back, you might try messing with how it sits on your head. I had the same problem until I really dialed in the sweet spot and got rid of most of the barrel distortion for me. Also, keep in mind the new Pimax 12k Qled is supposedly right around the corner so make sure the trade in program is still going with Pimax because then you can trade the 8KX in for the 12K if it ends up being a great headset. We will see how the new headset works out soon I hope. Either way, thanks for the comment and feedback on your experience.
Just got a email from pimax for a preorder. Had to pay $ 30 dollars to lock in. It says amazon will do the shipping. Im hoping that will start shipping by the end of the month. I have allwise been a oculus fan boy since the DK2 days but the meta pro just isnt what iI was hoping for. My quest 2 is over 2 yrs old and the battery is shot. Im running the bobo batterys to keep it going LOL. This pimax seems to hit a sweet spot so im willing to give it a try. Most of my apps are on steam anyways so im not loosing anything switching.
Great Update Shadow, please keep us in the loop if you get one soon. I haven't seen any independent "reviews" at all and would like to know how this thing looks in real life. I'm excited by the potential but unexcited at the lack of communication from Pimax. Congrats!
After my experience with Pimax 8KX I am not very optimistic that the Crystal will deliver on build quality, which is a major issue on their other headsets. I ended up returning my 8KX.
Yes I'm certain that the build quality will be lacking... it's almost a Pimax Trademark. BUT if the headset delivers the experience I want (and doesn't fall apart using it), for me I can live with that. It's going to be one extreme to the other going from the Varjo Aero (one of the best build qualities) to the Pimax Crystal... but we will see. Thanks for the comment.
Nice video. I actually ordered the Aero and then cancelled it for the pimax 8k (currently have a G2). I really want to experience more FOV and I'm hoping that the Crystal or 12k will be a good combo of FOV and aero-like resolution when the trade in program goes live.
Hi M.A., If Pimax can pull this off, I think the 12k will be THE headset if you have a high end system. The Crystal should give about the same performance as the 8kx as the number of pixels is the same. We will see, thanks for the comment and please let me know what you think of the 8k.
@@GYGOtvi don’t think we need more than 8k. It is like tv, 4k is the max i would take. I think the next nvidia 5090 32GB ddr7 will be true 8k60 fps at ultra settings and would match perfectly the pimax crystal. The best would be if one day pimax could propose in the same package the 200 fov glass and the crystal glass that we could switch depending of the app you want to use. 12k is not before 3 to 4 year with probably the next nvidia 6090 or 7090. It is too much to handle. Two 6k screen simultaneously with ultra setting is a lot. I heard the ceo and i think he confirmed what i said. It is more an R&D development for the next 4 to 5 years. Pimax is on the right track. They need to increase their build manufactory, and increase to produce in more quantities that wiuld allow to reduce the price and become the reference. The resolution is good the tracking is decent with inside out tracking and perfect with base stations and index controller. The lens are good the dmas audio is good, the software serms good with their own runtime and openvr. They can now focus to stability and production and their r&d can focus on reducing the form factor, and reduce the price and make partnership with big names in the industry to develop application educative and gaming. They really need to bring back the headset in the 900$ range. I bought my headset samsung 6 years ago at 550$ CDN if i remember and it was sometime below that. And the headset is really good 2880x1600 oled 90hz with inside out tracking. I still use it today in fs2020 and it is not ridiculous at all compare to today. It is fine grain resolution and superb color and black. I am still surprised today how good it is.
@@CC-gt3roHi CC, I didn't do the math but whatever it takes to get the Crystal's resolution at a wider FOV is all you need. The Crystal looks amazing. As for faster graphic cards, I think with Dynamic Foveated Rendering, you will probably be able to drive it with today's technology. I'm not sure if you could do swappable lenses, I like the idea, but wide FOV Lenses are a far different shape than what the Crystal uses. I 'm hoping the 12k QLED will have both without having to sway anything. Time will tell, but certainly we are on a new frontier with the clarity of the Crystal and the Aero! Thanks for the comment and the views.
Cant wait,since my 8kx is amazing my favorite headset out of all 6 i have or tried,but pimax has a history of promising and not delivering back in the day of kickstarter,i didnt experience that as i got into it later but alpt of people are skeptical.
Thanks for the comment Doofersmith, I'll be more excited once real people get to try these new headsets. I was so pumped when the Vive Pro 2 was released and it was a major disappointment. Hopefully we will know soon if these new "reality" headsets live up to the hype (or at least close).
Great timely review. Glad I cancelled my Aero when they offered it to me some time ago, as this would be a significant reduction in cost, but like you said, needs to be seen to be believed.. Wondering what is the relevance of the 12k if this delivers all it promises.
Thanks for the comment. The 12k will have all the benefits of the Crystals 35ppd lens, with a much wider FOV and supposedly no distortions. If Pimax pulls it off, it will be the first high PPD headset with a large FOV!
Personally I can’t wait to see Valves next-gen headset. I’m hoping it will be the gold standard just like the Index was.
Thanks for the comment Goat Face. Good chance it will... Valve usually knock's it out of the park. Just wish we could get an idea of how it is progressing, even if it is still year's away. Finger's Crossed!
If this headset will have inside out tracking and no need for base stations, it sounds like a good possibility for me to look at. I do SIM racing or allot of just sitting games, so I don't do allot of moving around at this time.
Seems like Pimax users have had problems in the past versions to get them to work, so I will just watch many reviewers videos when it should arrive on the market.
Yep that might be a good choice for that. I know the inside out tracking is a BIG plus for those who don't have lighthouses. If the visuals are anywhere near the Aero, it will be a great headset for your racing! Thanks for the comment dathyr.
From what i saw they already improved them a lot and the front plate lighthouse works perfectly with base station 2.0 and index controllers. I have a samsung odyssey v1 from 6 years ago and inside out tracking works perfectly, and it is no use for fs2020. It is just useful to watch videos in the home desktop. And it has only two cameras, the pimax has 4 cameras like the reverb g2. So it will be good enough.
I'll wait to see the performance of the headset in DCS before buying.
If it is my old one, reprojection was poorly implemented, fps were bad in medium FOV at 60% resolution without Antialiasing ingame.
No more powerpoint presentations from Pimax, I will check DCS settings, fps, compatibility with OpenXR, driver quality, etc.
Thanks for the head-up though, hopefully promises will become reality !
You are speaking my language Krostouin. DCS is my reason for all this stuff. I've never had, or used any Pimax headset so thanks for your feedback from your experience! Appreciate the view and the comment.
Brother, my experience with Pimax is that you wait until the product is available on Amazon. I’d never do a preorder. The experience is consistently terrible. But the product is usually good after you get through the headaches
Thanks for the info Nonya... I've heard basically the same from A LOT of previous Pimax Owners. I would never preorder one either, especially before any independent reviewers got their hands on them. They have just over a week to release the Crystal (they said Q3), I guess they better hurry :)
Do you think it is possible for other companies to offer lenses swap for current VR headsets? I mean there are many companies with long manufacturing optics history that would be able to produce kickass lenses, but don't have the expertise to make the whole VR headset.
Hi Rhosta, appreciate the question. First and foremost I'm no expert on optics and I assume you are talking about some company making Aspheric lenses to replace current Fresnel lenses in headsets? The problem is you really have to tune the lenses to work together with the display in the headset so I don't think an optics company would be able to do a better job than the manufacturer. Now what I think could work is if they partner together... then they might be able to do something. It is my understanding that there is so much more than just taking a Fresnel lens and then just put in an aspheric lens because of all the distortion it creates. Now if the Crystal actually ever gets released and say the lenses suck, then maybe some other company could produce something because the Crystal's lenses are already Aspheric and they are designed to be modular. I hope that answers the question and thanks for watching.
Im waiting on the crystal myself. The new price is around $1500 dollars. That is a good price I think.
Hi Shadow, LOL and I'm sure this has NOTHING to do with the Quest Pro also being priced at $1500 right? Regardless I was happy to see the price drop. I'm interested to hear what people say about the experience but I may hold off and put that $1500 toward the 12k QLED if these things actually look good. We will see. Appreciate the comment.
TY for that video. I have 57.5 ipd. I just won a 8kx dmas but it only goes to 60 so can't use. This may just be the ticket.
Congrats on the win... you might try the 8kx... it might be close enough. I have an IPD the other way (69.5) and I could still use the G2 (68), so might be worth a try. However, if you are not going to be using it... you could send it my way to review :), I've never tried any Pimax headset. Appreciate the view and the comment.
@@GYGOtv It is a good idea but I have a pending offer on it already. I really like your reviews. I'm subbed and will keep watching your stuff.
Hi, is it possible to manualy reduce vertical resolution(along with vertical fov) in vr headset, if I need to improve performance?
I am trying to gather information, so I can buy my first VR headset and racing games are primary concern.
I have Vega 64 GPU and while not too slow, it will probably show its age in VR.
Appreciate the question. For the Steam based headsets that I've used, you can "downsample" the image as a whole but not really block out part of the resolution vertically. You can kind of do that horizontally in the Pimax headsets... but those are the only ones I'm aware of. Motion reprojection is also an option that helps but it isn't implemented on all headsets. Hope that helps. You could also look at a stand alone headset like the Quest 2 if you don't think you have enough PC Horsepower.
I’m hoping the 12k is what they say it is but not holding my breath. Until then I’m enjoying my Aero for sim racing…I agree 100% on room scale…the Aero is so much clearer than the Quest 2 but for no sim games I’ll take the freedom of the Quest 2 every time and just airlink it to my PC. Hoping project Cambria is a step up and I’ll move to that for room scale. Thanks for the video 😊👍🏼
Thanks for the comment DamienG! I agree 100% with your 12k feelings. As for Cambria, from what I'm seeing I don't think it is going to be ideal for gaming. Seems to me to be more focused on AR/Productivity and social VR and I don't think it is going to be cheap either. I personally don't think AR is really the format for gaming, it will be great for training and stuff but for gaming I see very few applications for it that would be better than just an overall VR only experience. Of course I've been wrong before so I guess time will tell. If Pimax delivers, it will be THE headset for roomscale in my opinion... of course that is always a BIG IF when it comes to Pimax. You can be I'll be covering the 12k when we get more details, good or bad, so stay tuned!
@@GYGOtv I’ll still likely get the Cambria even for just the modest resolution bump. I’m sure it will still play games like the Quest 2. Not sure on the Pimax for room scale…I’ve just never found their headsets comfortable enough to move around in. Cambria looks like a good physical format for moving around in room scale. I think I’ll get the 12k just for my motion sim rig. Looking forward to all the new toys for sure! Thanks!
@@damiengvideos4337 Well please let me know what you think of the Cambria for sure! Pimax on paper should be perfect for roomscale... but as we have talked about, wait until we actually see one in action before getting too excited. I'm sure Cambria will play games too, just don't know if it will be the best choice but I'm excited to see what it can do. Please keep up posted on what you think of it when you get one!
An actual Varjo Aero product that’s tried and tested, vs a CGI mock up from Pimax. How can we possibly choose.
Thanks for the comment Grey, I think lots of people share your pessimism. Now to be fair Pimax actually showed a physical 12k QLED on MRTV in an interview a few months back. Now they didn't turn it on so who knows if it was more than a case... but they did have a physical headset. Of course as I've said, I won't get excited about ANY of these new Pimax headsets until someone not connected to Pimax actually gets to try one out. Hopefully we will see that soon, but I'm not holding my breath. Appreciate the view.
... Also REVERB G2 is great on the paper. but I hate WMR: not easy to use and too many crashes (in my experience). Instead, I like VARIO BASE: simple to use, and I works! So... I do not know PIMAX SOFTWARE, but I hope it works fine. Software is important.
That is a great point Blustering, I agree with you 100% on WMR! I don't have any experience with PiTools, but I do know they offer a lot of adjustments. Can anyone out there comment on how stable and easy to use PiTools is?
PiTool stability: 5/5. PiTool ease of use: 3/5 - you need a "tinkerer mindset", there's lots of bad translations (e.g. "Close" means that a setting is "Off"), and it's possible that a headset goes dark if you enter incompatible settings. But ease of use has improved slowly over the years - 3 years ago I would've rated ease of use 2/5.
@@RoarMcRipHelmet Thanks for the info Roar! A "tinkerers mindset" seems to be needed by everything that I own right now so got that covered. The motion platform is getting a lot of my attention right now with the new upgrade that I'm working on. PiTools will be an important part of the success of their new headsets. I heard there's A LOT of adjustability you can do in there correct?
There is a lot of adjustability in PiTool, but it can be argued that much of this adjustability is for things that the Varjo Aero already calibrates correctly (e.g. horizontal and vertical IPD offset, color balance…) and thus is there to compensate for shortcomings with the Pimax headsets.
@@RoarMcRipHelmet Great info to know, thanks for your insights!
love your video man
Thanks ni Ruo, appreciate you stopping by and leaving a comment.
@@GYGOtv haha im your old fan now
@@RickRenewablesTV Happy Birthday???? Hey it happens to the best of us. I appreciate all my fans... Both Old and REALLY Old :)
Someone needs to figure out a way to import quest games to other stand alones like pimax
I so agree. You can import older Oculus titles (love the Vader Immortal Series), but I haven't heard of anyone being able to import any Quest 2 titles yet. If anyone know a way please let us know. I really want to play Tales from Galaxies Edge! Thanks for the comment 04dram04.
Great video! You are a genuine VR enthusiast. Quick question: is Pimax's module going to use WiGig 2 or version 1? Will it require a PCIe slot? (hope not)
I have no idea and I don't think Pimax has gone into any detail either. We will have to wait and see I guess. Thanks for the compliment and the question. Sorry I didn't have an answer for you yet.
I am no a specialist but if you send 60 ghz signal you obviously need a receiver. So pcie card is probably the way to go…How do you want to receive that? With a Usb4 adapter? What is thunderbolt bandwidth ?40gbits/sec the 4.0 version. Is it enough for 2x4k screen simultaneously for 8k resolution? And if you compressed the data you need to send that at 90/120 fps to the gpu…
they havn't delivered the 12k yet? i'll believe it when i see it! (and then i might buy it because modularity does look good)
Ya, the 12k is what I'm most interested in... but if they actually get one of these out it might be a good sign that the 12k is just around the corner. Time will tell I guess. Thanks for the comment.
I’m trying to order the aero today
Good Luck Clive, let us know what you think of it after you get it. If you want to support the channel you can use my affiliate link and it won't cost you anything more varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html. Either way, I appreciate the view!
@@GYGOtv dude, I apologize. I caught this late.
@@D-money813 No problem, I just hope you enjoy your Aero as much as I enjoy mine. Let me know how it goes!
@@GYGOtv dude, I will, I will. Just waiting for that shipping email. About 3.5 weeks to go lol. 4090 on the way too!
@@D-money813 NICE... I'm leaning toward a 4090 also, but might wait for the 4090ti since my 3080ti is running mostly good. CONGRATS!
Will these new Pimax headsets run on an AMD system? Or Intel only?
Hi Mr. Majestic. I assume you are referencing the GPU? Looks like it has a minimum of a GTX 1060 OR AMD Radeon Rx 480 so it looks like it will work with AMD based GPU's unlike the Aero. Another positive for the Crystal. Just FYI, "Full Resolution mode" requires a RTX 20 series or and AMD Radeon 5000 or higher. Thanks for the question.
@@GYGOtv Hello Mark, As always thank you for your reply to my post. Just like you, I'm really looking forward to some heads-on reviews of these new Pimax headsets. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope that these new headsets live up to the hype. Keep on gaming ^_^
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Hello Adrenaline. The reason I asked Mark my question was because I had a friend just recently build me a top-of-the-line AMD System. My current GPU is the PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6900 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6 Memory, Powered by AMD RDNA™ 2, Raytracing, PCI Express 4.0. Thanks for your input. ^^
@@mr.majestic8713 Wow that is a pretty nice system Mr. Majestic. I'd like to hear how this all runs on that. I'm personally looking forward to the 4000 series GPUs in hopes there is a big jump in performance. For the way I like to play, my 3080ti is just powerful enough to do it, but I still get some stutters here and there. I think one more generational leap will hopefully get me where I want to be... of course not if I'm driving a 12k screen at that point (Looking at you Pimax 12K QLED) so really this madness never ends :)
@@mr.majestic8713 Awesome System, should run VR quite well I'd guess.
Did pimax indicate the Crystal will work on Radeon 6000 series cards? Radeon fans are left out of the Aero club still
If memory serves I think they said it would work on either brand so there is hope for the AMD folks out there. It would be nice to have an option for the Radeon owners to enjoy the great visuals of the Aspheric Lens! Thanks for watching our content OperatorPuski!
This is it Pimax. Can you deliver the goods or not? I would hate this to be a gimmicky disappointment. There`s no other company other than Pimax doing this kind of thing. A failure now would be very damaging for them
Yep, that is why we need regular people to try out these things before anyone "Pre-Orders" or anything like that. That is one of the reasons I'm so against their "Trade-in Program", we have no idea how good these things will really be. I am hopeful however, they do say "even a blind squirrel gets a nut sometimes", I'm hoping it's Pimax's turn to get a nut!
But I really need their HMD (FOV !!) There 's not another company to do this
@@XR7799 That is exactly why we all have our fingers crossed that they pull it off. People are understandably skeptical from Pimax's history. I worry that they are taking so long to let reviewers try it... may indicate it isn't as good as they claim. I think we all want the larger FOV... but that doesn't matter if the headset is crap and that is what we are all struggling with. Hopefully someone will get to actually use one soon so we can either get on board or start looking somewhere else. Thanks for the comment, I think you are saying what all of us are thinking.
Has anyone heard when it will start shipping?
Hi Brent, Pre Orders are supposed to start shipping in April, they say by June they should have production up to where you can buy it without much delay. I'm going to tap on a couple extra months and say they will be shipping non-pre orders by Q4 is my guess. Also, just FYI... If you pre-order you will get the upgraded DMAS audio solution, after pre-orders it will come with more basic audio standard. Thanks for the question.
@@GYGOtv Thanks for the update. I bought the Aero about 3 weeks ago but haven't unboxed it yet because the people who have reviewed the crystal have set it is as good as the Aero but with a better FOV. I can't afford both. I might put the Aero on Ebay and lose a few hundred ...Not sure what to do.
@@brent4770 Ya that is a tough call. The Aero is a better built unit, the software is going to be far better too. Pimax is always hit or miss with their software from what I hear... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The Aero is also lighter... BUT all the things I hate about my Aero look to be resolved on the Crystal. PLUS if you do any roomscale, the Crystal should be wireless WITH A HOT SWAPPABLE BATTERY. One downside to the Crystal is that it has to run off the battery (license requirement for the XR2 chip I guess). So it will eventually run dead even if plugged into a PC. It looks like anywhere from 2 to 6 hours... There might be a work around by plugging it directly into a wall socket with one of the USB connections (like you do for your phone) and that seems to extend the usage BUT it will still run out. Of course you have a spare battery that you can just plug in when it does... but that does seem to be a downside. As for advice, see if you can sell the AERO without losing anything... you also might check with Varjo, I don't know if they have a 30 day money back or not. I think it was just a 14 day but I don't remember. If there is anything else I can answer for you, please just let me know. I hope this helps with your decision.
@@GYGOtv It has!! : ) All I do is flight sims so I'll go a head and unbox it. Next year I can get another if one comes out that is great like an Aero with bigger FOV and OLED : ). I'll keep wishing. lol Thanks for your help!!
@@brent4770 No Problem... by then the Pimax 12K might be out and it should be the ultimate headset if they get it right. Enjoy the Aero!
Pimax = Good in Annoucing
Pimax = Good at Overpromising :)
You need a battery?
Yes the headset is also wireless, so you can do roomscale without being tethered to a computer. The battery slips in the back and the cool thing is it is hot swappable... so when it runs out you can quickly exchange it without having to interrupt your game. Pretty good design if you ask me. Thanks for the question.
after buying a pimax 8kx I'm just going to say it, the software side of these headsets isnt even usable... ontop of that mine is bricked form a software update.
Wow, thanks for the info CRiMSOM. I've heard that same thing from other people and then some people say the software is great. I've never used PiTools so feedback like this is great to have. I hope they fix your issue, keep us posted and thanks for watching our content!
Pimax makes the best VR headsets, by far. Largest vertical FOVs, largest horizontal FOVs, highest refresh rates, PPD at least on par (if not higher) with every other mainstream headset (besides Varjo Aero which doesn't have much going for it besides high PPD), big sweet spot, very nice colours, contrast, and blacks (after a couple quick adjustments in Pi-Tool), some of the least screen-door effect on the market, some of the least godrays on the market, some of the least haze/bloom on the market.
Heck, Pimax even gives users the freedom to increase FOV even further at the cost of refresh rate and vice-versa. Even at the highest refresh rate (which means lowest FOV), the FOV is still larger than any other headset, lol! All other companies should be embarrassed.
The only thing with Pimax is that it's not as much for plebs (AKA normies) as some other headsets due to usually requiring more tinkering of settings for games, seting the IPD properly with vision tests (don't just punch in your #), etc..
If Pimax delivers with the advancements being made with the upcoming 12K and Crystal - at least from the info that's been revealed - Pimax will be even further ahead of the rest of the industry as the 12K and Crystal are way more than just lens and panel upgrades...way more.
Thanks for the comment Sam... I'm sure you are going to get a lot of other people who disagree with you on Pimax being the best "by far" but we will see. I completely agree that IF Pimax pulls of the 12k OLED that it will be THE headset for most enthusiasts... but there is the problem, it is a BIG "IF" and to my knowledge nobody outside the company has had the chance to try it. Until that happens, I'll reserving my excitement but I DO HOPE they pull it off because it is exactly the headset I want. We will see.
@ziher123 There's no competitor for wide FOV that is true. If you want the widest, Pimax is still your best option.
I am very suspicious about Crystal. However, To me the real Holy Grail about to come is not the Crystal, is the Panasonic Shiftall Megane X , I do not why the community is not talking enough about this headset. It has Display Port, it is super light 250 grams, micro oled pancake lenses with perfect blacks, it has sound solution, it has both tracking option (light house and inside out), 2560 per eye, it is produced by a high quality company as Pananosic, At about only US1.000 . It is a totally Varjo Killer in my opinion.
Hi Pedro, thank you so much for the comment and for watching our stuff! I personally am very excited about the possibility of the Megane X headset... I LOVE OLED displays and I REALLY like the ability to dial in my eye prescription so no more glasses. I think the reason most aren't covering this right now is until people really see that it WILL become a Mass Produced product, they are hesitant to talk about it... Lessons learned from Deca Gear I'd say. Don't get me wrong, I am pulling for it to come out but taking a prototype to full consumer product seems to be a big step to take. As for me, I'm worried a little about the FOV and also the fact it seems like it will still be tethered. I think that is what has me more excited about the Pimax (even though I share your suspicions on Pimax in general) is the Crystal's wireless aspect for roomscale. I can tell you, once you do roomscale wirelessly, it is really hard to go back to tethered... that is the main reason I don't use my Aero for roomscale and instead still use my Vive Pro. Anyway, once this headset becomes more a reality I'm sure reviewers will cover it, and if it does deliver I'm sure it will generate the excitement that you expect. We all want VR to grow and this headset has the potential to do that. Time will tell I guess.
@@GYGOtv Thanks so much for your content and your answer. The problem is that the company is informing more on their japanesse twitter account that you can check it out. They just claimed that their are about to start mass productions, last interview they say they´ll launch next month. Unlike Pimax, Panasoic has japanesse culture (They do more than they talk). Here is a bet for you: Megane X will be in the store way sooner than Crystal. I am a DCS player, do not care much about room scaling.
@@pedroarraztoa2789 O I'm sure Megane X will be in the store first... Hell I'd almost bet that the Megane X 2 will be in the stores before the Crystal! I lost even more faith in Pimax when they announced that Nintendo Switch knockoff (cardboard VR) product. It's like stop announcing and start producing!!! Again, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt about these new headsets but if someone doesn't actually get to try one soon I'll be doubting Pimax even more. Again I just worry about the FOV on the Megane X because if it's like the Quest 2, then I'm not really interested in going backward.
Quest 2 FOV 95, HP FOV 98, Megane X FOV 105, Aero FOV 115.
I think is enough, better than the Quest 2 and HP.
@@pedroarraztoa2789 Yep that might be enough, any idea on the vertical FOV because that is where they could really leapfrog the Aero?
One thing to take in to account is Pimax's terrible customer service, poor/missing documentation and Pitool still feels like an alpha test!
Thanks for the info Gulo, I've heard that from lots of other people. I personally haven't ever had a Pimax so I don't know. Appreciate your comment!
By the time pimax actually ships Crystal there will be Varjo Aero 7
LOL thanks for the comment sunken, I wouldn't say you are wrong and I certainly wouldn't bet money they will release soon. I'm hoping they have learned from past mistakes but won't be surprised if they haven't. This all feels very familiar to their past releases.
It’s coming out in November but no one held one yet lmao
LOL yep, exactly! And I'm sure the 12k QLED will still be out before the end of the year too :) Got to love Pimax... well at least their consistency in over promising.
@@GYGOtv lmao that ain’t over promising. That’s just lying lol
@@D-money813 LOL potato, potato, tomato, tomato... I hear you!
@@GYGOtv hahaha
@@GYGOtv hey, my guy, did you see it ??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Headset is too bulky for me to consider no matter how good it is
Yes, I think they could have slimmed it down a bunch considering the size of the lenses. I totally get what you are saying. Thanks for the comment.
only thing I don't like the Aero is the price.....
Thanks for the comment vike fon, Ya that is the only thing I hate about Ferrari's too :) Actually I think around the $1500 price point is going to be common pricing for all the new Quality VR Headsets coming out. We already know the Quest Pro is going to be a lot higher than the Quest 2, and I can't imagine the Valve Deckard being less than $1000 if it ever comes out. The Crystal is priced at $1900, but does include controllers and no need for base stations. My personal opinion is the Aero is a good upgrade choice for those who already have Basestations/Controllers and the Crystal might be right for those without that stuff... Of course that still depends on how good the Crystal REALLY is in use... Time will tell I guess.
@@GYGOtv BUT Quest PRO has AUG reality .
non of the others have that.
VARJO has something like that for business , its the coolest thing on earth.
Quest PRO will be a game changer.
You can see your flight sim keyboards....
@@maximme Ya I'm not all that excited about AR for immersion and entertainment. I think it will be a fad for gaming that will eventually die down. I can't think of an experience in gaming that would be better in AR than just straight VR. I get your point on being able to see the keyboard in flight sims, but unless you have a complete cockpit mockup, I think just seeing your real rig mixed with the Simulation will be very immersion breaking. I might be wrong about all this but I've thought about it a lot and that is my feeling on it. NOW AR for training and productivity is a whole other animal and I can certainly see the value in it there. I hope your right about the Quest Pro being a game changer... but I don't personally see it for entertainment.
The Aero "just got" some competition. 10 months later, still no competition.....lol
I think your comment should be "10 months later and the competition is not available at retail yet" because the Crystal is real, about to go to mass production and it does look to be delivering on the promises it made. I think it will be in the market at scale by the end of Summer at the latest. We will see LOL.
@Get Your Game On The point is the title of "Just got competition" didn't age well. It's not even competition until you can buy it. That's not your fault but Pimax's terrible way of communicating launch dates.
@@buenasondas1147 Yep I get your point... my point was something was being made that could potentially compete with the Aero vs. nothing even in development that can match the Aero, so I guess take it as you want. This isn't anything new in the VR space... products take a while to come out, hell look at Deckard. But you are right, Pimax doesn't communicate well for sure. Really not an argument here and I stand by my original statement that the Crystal will give the Aero a run for its money. Appreciate your comments.
@@GYGOtv Regardless of our discussion about your title, I'm looking forward to this headset. Do I wish it did the same thing at 1/2 the weight and bulk? Yes, but we won't see that for awhile. Are you interested in the Bigscreen VR as well?
@@buenasondas1147 Ahh the weight, yes my concern as well but heck I guess I needed to work on my neck muscles :) Also don't like that it discharges the battery even when plugged in but I guess that is an XR2 Chip requirement. Haven't done too much with big screen because all the other headsets had glare issues, this one might be better, especially with the black blacks!
I friggin hate Pimax. They overhype and under deliver pretty consistently.
Yep, pretty poor track record... I'm hoping this time they may have figured it out... but not holding my breath. If the headset actually delivers, I'm willing to give it a shot, but need to see it in the hands of non-Pimax folks first! Thanks for the comment.
ROFL suuure it is
I sense some doubt in your comment :) Care to elaborate?
People ara naive :)
Hi Marcin, in general I agree that some people arE naive... would you care to elaborate on your comment?
What he wants to say, pimax stole aero model and make it cheaper.
Thanks for watching Nexe... No I don't think Pimax stole anything from Aero, they had the headset designed for the 12k already. Plus the Aero didn't originate the aspherical lens design, it's been around since the beginning of VR, I don't think the Pimax headsets will be anywhere near the quality of the Aero, and until somebody tries it I don't even know if it's going to work. I guess time will tell. One thing most of my viewers know, if I want to say something I will, you always get my honest opinion. Appreciate the comment.
Pimax is dismal. Company has zero interest in VR. Would not go near any of their products.
Thanks for the comment REZZA2020. I think many people share your view... and deservedly so. For me, this headset has so much potential, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until someone actually gets to try it out... Then I'm sure I'll be disappointed :) Figures are crossed that maybe Pimax has learned something from their past mistakes... but I'm not holding my breath, that is for sure. Time will tell I guess.
@@GYGOtv I viewed the CEO, his dispassionate disinterest in the interview is all I needed to know. You are more forgiving then myself. I do know they share zero in common with the likes of Varjo who are pushing the very limits of VR technology.
It is a very old fashioned marketing trick- go overboard with specs and features- yet, consistently deliver terrible products.
I think its important to consider the ecosystem a person is part of when buying a HMD- and its future prospects.
Sorry, but I really do dislike everything this company stands for. On the positive, your reviews are unique and helpful. Thank you
@@REZZA2020 It's too bad you have such hate for Pimax. I think they have the best headsets in the industry...by far. Where's this apparent video with the CEO you speak of?