@@MrGustavevil bro litterally, showing up amongst the dead and dying in a set of GOLDEN ARMOR WITH A WREATH ON YOUR HEAD" The emperor seems like a massive gaslighter not gonna lie XD
The Lightning stone was based on a real location. Initially fans thought it was on the island of Lindisfarne on the East Coast of England, famous for it's monastery and castle. It was later confirmed by the author Graham McNeill to actually be based on the "Old Man of Storr" a famous rock formation on the Isle of Skye off the west coast of Scotland.
I know he's the most powerful human psyker, but just trying to picture HOW the Emperor transported and imprisoned the Void dragon in Mars before humanity achieved space flight usually turns up humorous results. Usually, I picture the Emperor in medieval garb tossing the Void dragon in a big sack, holding his breath, teleports to the surface of Mars in hard vacuum, chucks the bag down a big hole, and pops back to Earth.
Keep in mind that the emperors pychic power is so immense that he decides how you see him! He could appear to a crowd and different people might see dif things... is he 10 foot tall or 3 foot... is he armoured in the most over the top golden armour or is he wearing simple robes! Has anyone ever seen his true form..!? Maybe Malcador the sigilite...
I remember how in the Siege of Terra novels, Malcador mentions that he is not sure if the Emperor had ever revealed his true face, even to him. Very cool thing to think about!
The Emperor also had to be whatever he needed to be in that moment never really having the luxury of just being himself almost from the outset of his adult life. Which is rather tragic given how powerful he is yet his options in the more simple matters are so limited.
Immortality and his knowledge of the warp and the dark powers did influence a lot of his talking points here(In face value his arguments are flawed but in the 40k context they make more sense)
@@command_unit7792 The praying of the trillions of citizens is immensely helping boost his power, doesn’t want to be seen as a god, yet did everything in his power to show he in fact is one, at least he for sure is now, destroying warp entities just from sitting on his throne, IE clapping possessing Robute clapping mortarion and lighting nurgles garden of fire and making him hide like a coward….. he could easily beat the chaos gods 1v1 at separate times.
@@command_unit7792 well, in 40k context he did the exact same thing the ones he criticized, actually much worse, literally wiping out countless planets that did not bend to the imperial truth….. his own religion, whether he likes it or not it’s a religion that he made himself god of, idk how he couldn’t see this……. He still is the most interesting character.
This is a great story. Everyone has their own beliefs, it's hard to say what's really out there. Even if you could come up with a decent belief could you describe properly. My favorite quote Arthur C. Clarke - ‘Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.’
Yep, Frank is France, earlier the Mariana Canyon was mentioned which is actually the Mariana Trench, terra at this time has very little water covering it. The irony of the Emperor’s goal vs the 40k imperium is a big theme of the Horus Heresy, the lectitio divinitatus is the holy book of the ecclesiarchy, it was written by Lorgar, the first primarch to actually fall to chaos if I recall correctly. And though I’ve not finished the video just yet, I hope you picked up on the broken pocket watch being a doomsday clock at one minute to midnight.
The Emperor's flaw was his long life and his power. It's telling that he said that he KNOWS he's right in what he's doing. So the enlightened world he envisioned was a world in which HE cannot be questioned.
No. His dream was for mankind see what he saw. Evolve to his level. He understood that mankind needed to believe in itself. Mankind needed to let go and trust in its own power. But we are weak foolish creatures give in too easy to other things. The Emperor wanted to remove mankind from the universe so that we could grow and evolve in a pocket dimension. Then return to claim the galaxy. That was his desperation. He didnt want to be worshipped. Only listened to
Ill have to check that out sometime! I love watching interviews in general and it would be awsome to hear his thoughts on everything. Thank you for letting me know about that!
THIS WAS AWESOME! Thank you so much to everyone who recommended it! This was one of my favorites so far! Loved the narration and the dialogue blew me away. Also the concepts talked about really have me thinking, as they share a direct link to our world IRL. Really left me speechless not gonna lie. Let me know what to react to next! See you in the next one :)
Have enjoyed your various reactions. I have a few more suggestions for your list. "Origins of the Legiones Astartes and the Creation of the Space Marines" by Oculus Imperia. Smaller channel that deserves some love. Puts out loads of very well researched and polished content. Bob and Gav. It's essential. It's emotional. You need it in your life. Anything by Vox in the Void The Exploring series and The Volgun are highly recommended for good quality scp content. Cheers.
@@phalanxwarden4124100% imo for Vox In The Void 1) “Cry Havoc” 2) A Proper Krumpin 3) Bob&Gav You have to react to Chris Tester 40k speeches part 1-5 as well. Chris is fucking peak.
@@TheRealCenturion You missed the end of the video. Quite a few people who have reacted to it do. Always let the credits play while you give your final thoughts. You never know if there is a post credit scene.
Nice reaction and great commentary! I've always wanted more stories set during the unification wars, not enough to take away from the larger mysticism surrounding that period but enough to flesh it out more properly. Also! You missed an end credits sequence that transitions nicely into the events of the first horus heresy novel - horus rising.
No way! Ill have to look at that right now! Ill watch till the ending next time just so i never miss something like that again! Thank you for letting me know ! Hope you enjoyed the video :)
The last line was unfortunately scrubbed out with the music- The Emperor turns his gaze from the still smoldering church, apparently in the morning after watching it burn all night, glances to his 2 astartes and says “Come. We have a galaxy to conquer.”
@@HistoritorJimaldus I still haven’t been able to read the actual book, but the wiki says the Emperor was accompanied by Thunder Warriors. However this animation depicts them as the earliest Astartes, which I like much better. Why would the Emperor tell Thunder Warriors that last line, when those bitches ain’t goin NOWHERE
One of my favorite stories. If want to learn more of the Unification Wars, their is a video by Oculus lmperia. He does it by playing a role of historians in the 40k universe.
Thank you for that recommendation! I find that time period very interesting after watching the last church! It feels just like a passing peace of history ar first but it really sets the foundation for all the misery that comes in 30 and then 40k... what he did on terra before he ever set out.
This was a treat to watch! You slowly realizing it’s the emperor was an amazing reaction, most people have the story spoiled early. While the arguments and philosophy is based on the real world, it it’s important to remember this is still a setting where the answers to these questions are known. The emperor knows what “gods” are and that they exist. His crusade to destroy faith is an attempt to spare humanity the influence of the chaos gods. It does show the emperors mindset and goals very well. This is also a great video to watch to help understand just how far the imperium has fallen from the time of the great crusade and the Horus heresy. How the imperium has become the thing the emperor feared and hated. Yet still I think it says a lot that the emperor hasn’t abandoned humanity and still fights for it in the 41st and 42nd millennium still. Even becoming the very thing he hated and sought to destroy. A god. I believe, the sisters of battle, the adepta sororitas are the proof that the emperor has chosen to take the role as god of humanity. Out of necessity, perhaps. Or perhaps he finally realized humanity needs something and someone larger than themselves to succeed. I saw lutein has just dropped a lore video on the age of apostasy and I highly recommend it, because it’s the history and origins of the adepta sororitas. And one of the best written stories in 40k and why so many people love the sisters. Beyond the fan art lol but really the sisters have a great story.
What did I promise you? ;) The fact that you paused and commented is what really makes a reaction. My suggestion came mainly because you are dealing with the Emperor of Mankind (and I think everyone else will have recommended it for similar reasons). Greetings
This is such a masterfully written narrative because The Emperor is fundamentally correct in his condemnation of religion. But at the same time comes across as such a massive hypocrite-even an elderly priest can see it.
I am a 100% on the side of the emperor in his quest for progress, and yet i cried for the priest. I wish the emperor would have understood him and kept his church standing, reasonable or not. It would have been vital for the emperor to have a man like him oppose him philosophically and challenge his decisions...balance could be achieved between understanding and progress.
that never made sense to me. Big Fan of the Emp myself, but his one true and biggest mistake was not aknowledging the potential of the warp. Its literally possible to create your own gods, as the eldar prove and as the imperium is literally proving right now with big e himself. Actual "progress" would include this in its science. Just ignoring it is not progress, its just ignorance. Instead of pretending that chaos exist, he could have just went the god-emperor route from the beginning and give Humanity its own realm in the warp.
If i ever had the ability to time travel, I would immediately visit the library of Alexandria before the burning. Its one of the only things that seem worth it to me.
That and the pyramid construction. Honestly looking throughout our history there so much weird things or "Blank" spaces that we simply have no idea about. Some of the few items that were said to come from Alexandria are mind blowing at best. Have you heard of the The Piri Reis Map before? Hope you enjoyed the video :)
You should continiue emperor of mankind by luetin09, part 2 deals with Horus heresy and part 3 goes through this story but with context. Great reaction btw!
No the Emperor is indeed talking about real world historical events as the past of 40k is the same as ours and our present which in lore he first hand saw. The Emperor was born at the very dawn of human civilization and watched the whole of recorded human history not from pages of a tome or book but through living it thus his strong stance against religion. He also was a more than a few religious people in the past him being possibly jesus and thr prophet muhammad and St. George. Which I think is another reason he feels so deeply about it as he is partly to account for it on top of knowing all that worship of gods feeds the Chaos gods which he can't tell anyone about as it would further empower them just from being known about. The Emperor at this moment was in a very hard spot both in the grand scheme of his plans as well as personally. Also in the novel it was the Emperor who healed the priest as the Emperor can actually use his powers to heal others and even revive the dead. This was before all of mankind worshipped him as a god as well and ironically while he was alive to deny being anything of the sort only wanting to restore his people to their lost golden age where mankind had the best quality of life. Thus to me why 40k is grimdark as there was hope and the Emperor would at his core simply wanting a better future for his fellow man yet it all can to a screaming halt with chaos turning half his sons against him killing that hope.
Just discovered your channel today, love all the 40k reactions! I'm not sure if maybe it was mentioned in the comments before, but I can not recommend the "Vox in the Void" short audio 40k novels YT channel enough! It has some great content like "I am - A servitor tale", or "Cry Havoc" shorts. Would be awesome to see you check them out :)
I have not heard of those ones yet I dont think! Thank you for those recommendations, Ill write them down now! Really glad your liking them! That means a lot :)
59:34 no its not more complicated. Firstly Thunder warriors are metally unstable and throughout tge entire unification wars constantly some of the turned into mad murder machines and had to be put down. They are pure barbaric warriors who had kept maby of the human traits you thought the emperor had tsken away. No its the total opposite, because the Thunder warrios still had so many normal human emotions they turned mad. So he realised that in his next project he needs to destroy this emotions to make them better soldiers. The astartes are basicly aliens to humanity most of them except a few arw incapable to undrstand most human feelings. You saw it in helsreach final episode where the female adjutant and the Major were kissing. Grimaldus reaction was "Madness, reclusiarch?" Bead the emperors champion asked. "Humans" Grimaldus said, "they are a mysterie to me".
Well given that the earliest written texts in history (to our knowledge)are usually of religious significance, i imagine the burning of Alexandria not only had much to do with loss of knowledge which DID lead to a dark age, but also you must consider how many artifacts , from how many cultures may have been there . Mind you it happened around 50 BC, Alexanders conquest took place around 350 bc, and the library itself was constructed around 300bc. Not all successor kingdoms lasted that long obviously but its completely impossible to know just what was lost there, though i imagine if we still had those artifacts and texts now a days , that could shine some light on our diety(s) , with the context we have from modern times. I personally think it could have a lot to do with religion/theology in general.
I love this story as an avenue for exploring WH40k, but I hate it as an avenue for theological discussions. People can't help but engage in earnest in this discourse, sadly without even trying to separate what they say as it applies to the WH40k universe from how it applies to real life.
@palpat8431 there is certainly a massive difference between 40k and real life, the concepts in a sense of what they say could similar but obviously we should not take what's said in 40k as the "one true truth" if that makes sense. I was simply trying to use what little I know of theology to understand it a little better . Hope you enjoyed the video :)
I study theology and philosophy in my own time, I thought the arguments & statements could have improved on. It was unfortunate to hear that the author of The Last Church did not work with actual theologians both atheist and faithful - I think this could have been a proper philosophical tome that talks about the relationship between believers & atheists that debunked some of the common misconceptions, myths & misunderstandings from both sides - think of the style used in Plato's Republic, its philosophy taught by characters that talk & debate. Still a good novel, & I can understand getting too deep into philosophy & theology may bore an audience, so maybe that's why? Either way, it is a good novel & performed well by this cast. I approve of you stopping to talk for a while to have some input, sharing opinion & perspective; we need a lot more ethical react content such as yours out there. Yeah, some people will find it annoying, but it adds so much more original content that I believe is both essential & admittedly the most stimulating part of react channels outside of the "wow" moments.
As a christian i find this story very intriguing. The emperor misses many point and generalizes way too much in the name of "I know i am right." Uriah is not a theologian, he doesnt have acess to much ot the history and records. He is a good man who ultimatly seeks to do good for those that need him The debate is intetesting, yet neither are very good at debating, but taking the context, a demigod whos been alive for 40000 years, an old man whos devoted himself to a life of peace, then it makes sense and in the context of whats to come...anyone say forshadowing?
The Emperor had his agenda here and its evident by the fact that when Uriah refuted the Emperor's points he didn't try to refute them back(he just followed up with another point) From a 40k context and the Emperor being aware of Godlike entities(like the chaos gods) makes his fear of religion more understandable. The Emperor wasn't going to accept Uriahs point of View and it wasn't a real debate. The points raised in the story are all depicting elements of the Imperial Cult that worships the Emperor in the 40k era(from human sacrifices to the Inquisition and the Crusades).
I agree, The Emperor is very literal, and he takes religion as such, ignoring the fact that any good could come from it because of the fact that bad HAS come from it. Uriah, as someone simply trying to lead a good life, and that being taken from him in the name of "progress" still makes him the victim here....(as no one can or will martyr him anymore) Though that obviously was not his goal , I think the Emperor could see this and is why he waited until it was just him and personally tried to convince him of his way. I think he could also see Uriah was a good person, And was doing what he believed to be right, which the Emperor does not tolerate in the case of religion obviously, but I think in this case its clear he still respected him, even offering him a place by his side if he was willing to move past his faith. I think it was a great story , would love to see more from this time period if it exists.
When you talked about jesus i thought of this. What many people forget when it comes to jesus is that he "hanged around" alot of what many called bad people/low cast. poor, criminals and prostitues etc. And even if many christians today do good things (in my opinion doing it only beacuse their book tells them to, and are you really a good person if you only do good things beacuse a book tells you to and for fear of hell?) many of them are the most judgemental people towards others. kinda rings bad in my ears if you concider how jesus lived according to their book Seanse Warhammer has lent so much from us and our history, so the watch the priest is carrying around i think is supposed to be a representation of the doomsday clock that we have. Ours says 90 sec to midnight and is supposed to be a representation of how close we are to destroying ourselfs
Don't get us wrong, we're not good people. We are trying to be good people. We believe we've been given the road map to get there and have been promised a guide on that road.
@@kevinhill8193 i agree that humans are amongst the worst. the point i was trying to make about being and doing good, if it comes from fear then it is selfserving. if you do something good for others, not beacuse someone or something told you or out of fear of damnation. without expecting a "reward or people telling you how good you are". Then you are a good person and i belive we know within ourselfs what is good, its just we have come to expect rewards for what we do.
Thats a very good way to put it and something I did not want to outright just say. The reality is, at that time , if you were lower class, that was sadly just your life. The world back then was very brutal, especially towards women for obvious reasons. See I personally have met both types of people, I have seen religion do so much for someones life seemingly, actually make them value their life and treat other with decent intentions. But as you say, under the same guise of faith, Around the area I grew up, I have also seen religion be a complete authoritarian hand. Most young people from there whom were home schooled i believe are still in, those that went to public school with me, left the instant they were 18, most of which now are not "allowed" to talk to their parents (This was a minority in the area i grew up, I was not in it, Most people werent). Technically it was a Catholic faith but It certainly was/Is not main stream if you know what I mean. I can understand why you think that way. Personally I dont think its right for me or anyone else to dictate how they live their life, but I do have a issue with radical outliers (Which are Prominent in some parts of the world a lot more then others). Thats a good explanation of the watch! I did not think of that comparison but you are right! Hope you enjoyed the video as always :)
@kevinhill8193 And I think thats the best way forward. Ive seen faith do amazing things for people and at the end of the day, As long as your leading your life as a good person and simply trying your best to become better each day, thats far better to me then not ever even attempting to try because you dont see a point, Which sadly at times I fear everyone is guilty of. I hope you enjoyed the video :)
Luetin just made a video on age of apostasy which might interest you, its a period in which a funny little guy called Goge Vandire took control over organized religion in the imperium and did whatever he wanted, the sisters of battle where also formed in this period
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'I'm not a God. Why does everyone keep saying that?'
'Have you considered not appearing as an omnipotent golden giant wreathed in divine light?'
@@MrGustavevil bro litterally, showing up amongst the dead and dying in a set of GOLDEN ARMOR WITH A WREATH ON YOUR HEAD"
The emperor seems like a massive gaslighter not gonna lie XD
@@TheRealCenturion The Emperor TTS series has a funny joke about that in one of the episodes.
motion comic i believe is the terminology for the style
Ah thank you!
Hope you enjoyed the video! :)
The Lightning stone was based on a real location.
Initially fans thought it was on the island of Lindisfarne on the East Coast of England, famous for it's monastery and castle.
It was later confirmed by the author Graham McNeill to actually be based on the "Old Man of Storr" a famous rock formation on the Isle of Skye off the west coast of Scotland.
The church would indeed be up a "mountain" as by the end of old night, sea levels had fallen drastically as most large bodies of water had evaporated.
Lets fuckingg goooo!!!
Bros face when he figured out it was Big E got me!
Good to see you here! This was fantastic!
Hope you enjoy the video! :)
@@TheRealCenturion Goat
Fun little tidbit, the iconic image of St. George slaying the dragon is canonically the Emperor slaying the Void Dragon before imprisoning it on Mars.
@maporte4 thats awesome! Thank you for sharing that!
Hope you enjoyed the video :)
I know he's the most powerful human psyker, but just trying to picture HOW the Emperor transported and imprisoned the Void dragon in Mars before humanity achieved space flight usually turns up humorous results.
Usually, I picture the Emperor in medieval garb tossing the Void dragon in a big sack, holding his breath, teleports to the surface of Mars in hard vacuum, chucks the bag down a big hole, and pops back to Earth.
Keep in mind that the emperors pychic power is so immense that he decides how you see him!
He could appear to a crowd and different people might see dif things... is he 10 foot tall or 3 foot... is he armoured in the most over the top golden armour or is he wearing simple robes!
Has anyone ever seen his true form..!? Maybe Malcador the sigilite...
I remember how in the Siege of Terra novels, Malcador mentions that he is not sure if the Emperor had ever revealed his true face, even to him. Very cool thing to think about!
The Emperor also had to be whatever he needed to be in that moment never really having the luxury of just being himself almost from the outset of his adult life. Which is rather tragic given how powerful he is yet his options in the more simple matters are so limited.
The Emperor with all of his intelligence and power, yet still so blind……. Look at him now.
That being said….. FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Immortality and his knowledge of the warp and the dark powers did influence a lot of his talking points here(In face value his arguments are flawed but in the 40k context they make more sense)
@@command_unit7792 The praying of the trillions of citizens is immensely helping boost his power, doesn’t want to be seen as a god, yet did everything in his power to show he in fact is one, at least he for sure is now, destroying warp entities just from sitting on his throne, IE clapping possessing Robute clapping mortarion and lighting nurgles garden of fire and making him hide like a coward….. he could easily beat the chaos gods 1v1 at separate times.
@@command_unit7792 well, in 40k context he did the exact same thing the ones he criticized, actually much worse, literally wiping out countless planets that did not bend to the imperial truth….. his own religion, whether he likes it or not it’s a religion that he made himself god of, idk how he couldn’t see this……. He still is the most interesting character.
This is a great story.
Everyone has their own beliefs, it's hard to say what's really out there. Even if you could come up with a decent belief could you describe properly.
My favorite quote Arthur C. Clarke - ‘Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.’
Yep, Frank is France, earlier the Mariana Canyon was mentioned which is actually the Mariana Trench, terra at this time has very little water covering it.
The irony of the Emperor’s goal vs the 40k imperium is a big theme of the Horus Heresy, the lectitio divinitatus is the holy book of the ecclesiarchy, it was written by Lorgar, the first primarch to actually fall to chaos if I recall correctly.
And though I’ve not finished the video just yet, I hope you picked up on the broken pocket watch being a doomsday clock at one minute to midnight.
The Emperor's flaw was his long life and his power. It's telling that he said that he KNOWS he's right in what he's doing. So the enlightened world he envisioned was a world in which HE cannot be questioned.
No. His dream was for mankind see what he saw. Evolve to his level. He understood that mankind needed to believe in itself. Mankind needed to let go and trust in its own power. But we are weak foolish creatures give in too easy to other things. The Emperor wanted to remove mankind from the universe so that we could grow and evolve in a pocket dimension. Then return to claim the galaxy. That was his desperation. He didnt want to be worshipped. Only listened to
Mira Manga interviewed the author of this short story (Graham McNeill) last year on her channel :)
Ill have to check that out sometime!
I love watching interviews in general and it would be awsome to hear his thoughts on everything.
Thank you for letting me know about that!
i love static images with only very little movement in it, like at the beginning when only the small candle flickers.
THIS WAS AWESOME!
Thank you so much to everyone who recommended it! This was one of my favorites so far! Loved the narration and the dialogue blew me away.
Also the concepts talked about really have me thinking, as they share a direct link to our world IRL. Really left me speechless not gonna lie.
Let me know what to react to next!
See you in the next one :)
Small detail When it goes silent near the end of the film and the emp looks to the thunder warriors he says “come we have a galaxy to conquer”
@@anthraxcrab2222 Ahhh thank you for explaining that! I was wondering what I missed there.
Hope you enjoy the video :)
Have enjoyed your various reactions.
I have a few more suggestions for your list.
"Origins of the Legiones Astartes and the Creation of the Space Marines" by Oculus Imperia.
Smaller channel that deserves some love.
Puts out loads of very well researched and polished content.
Bob and Gav.
It's essential.
It's emotional.
You need it in your life.
Anything by Vox in the Void
The Exploring series and The Volgun are highly recommended for good quality scp content.
Cheers.
@@phalanxwarden4124100% imo for Vox In The Void 1) “Cry Havoc” 2) A Proper Krumpin 3) Bob&Gav
You have to react to Chris Tester 40k speeches part 1-5 as well. Chris is fucking peak.
@@TheRealCenturion You missed the end of the video. Quite a few people who have reacted to it do. Always let the credits play while you give your final thoughts. You never know if there is a post credit scene.
Nice reaction and great commentary! I've always wanted more stories set during the unification wars, not enough to take away from the larger mysticism surrounding that period but enough to flesh it out more properly.
Also! You missed an end credits sequence that transitions nicely into the events of the first horus heresy novel - horus rising.
No way!
Ill have to look at that right now! Ill watch till the ending next time just so i never miss something like that again!
Thank you for letting me know !
Hope you enjoyed the video :)
The last line was unfortunately scrubbed out with the music- The Emperor turns his gaze from the still smoldering church, apparently in the morning after watching it burn all night, glances to his 2 astartes and says “Come. We have a galaxy to conquer.”
Were they Astartes or thunder warriors?
@@HistoritorJimaldus Custodes*
@@HistoritorJimaldus I still haven’t been able to read the actual book, but the wiki says the Emperor was accompanied by Thunder Warriors. However this animation depicts them as the earliest Astartes, which I like much better. Why would the Emperor tell Thunder Warriors that last line, when those bitches ain’t goin NOWHERE
One of my favorite stories. If want to learn more of the Unification Wars, their is a video by Oculus lmperia. He does it by playing a role of historians in the 40k universe.
Thank you for that recommendation! I find that time period very interesting after watching the last church!
It feels just like a passing peace of history ar first but it really sets the foundation for all the misery that comes in 30 and then 40k... what he did on terra before he ever set out.
Oh and that the third eps on luetins channel about the emperor is legit just this story but much more context os there
That sounds cool! Cant wait for part 3 then! .... Part 2 should be coming Tomorrow ;)
This was a treat to watch! You slowly realizing it’s the emperor was an amazing reaction, most people have the story spoiled early.
While the arguments and philosophy is based on the real world, it it’s important to remember this is still a setting where the answers to these questions are known. The emperor knows what “gods” are and that they exist. His crusade to destroy faith is an attempt to spare humanity the influence of the chaos gods. It does show the emperors mindset and goals very well. This is also a great video to watch to help understand just how far the imperium has fallen from the time of the great crusade and the Horus heresy. How the imperium has become the thing the emperor feared and hated. Yet still I think it says a lot that the emperor hasn’t abandoned humanity and still fights for it in the 41st and 42nd millennium still. Even becoming the very thing he hated and sought to destroy. A god. I believe, the sisters of battle, the adepta sororitas are the proof that the emperor has chosen to take the role as god of humanity. Out of necessity, perhaps. Or perhaps he finally realized humanity needs something and someone larger than themselves to succeed.
I saw lutein has just dropped a lore video on the age of apostasy and I highly recommend it, because it’s the history and origins of the adepta sororitas. And one of the best written stories in 40k and why so many people love the sisters. Beyond the fan art lol but really the sisters have a great story.
What did I promise you? ;)
The fact that you paused and commented is what really makes a reaction.
My suggestion came mainly because you are dealing with the Emperor of Mankind (and I think everyone else will have recommended it for similar reasons).
Greetings
This is such a masterfully written narrative because The Emperor is fundamentally correct in his condemnation of religion.
But at the same time comes across as such a massive hypocrite-even an elderly priest can see it.
You had some interesting and valid ideas before you knew it was set in 30k era :) good vid!
I really appreciate that! I really hope you enjoyed the video! :)
Kinda forgot about this amazing story, glad someone recommended it
I am a 100% on the side of the emperor in his quest for progress, and yet i cried for the priest. I wish the emperor would have understood him and kept his church standing, reasonable or not. It would have been vital for the emperor to have a man like him oppose him philosophically and challenge his decisions...balance could be achieved between understanding and progress.
that never made sense to me. Big Fan of the Emp myself, but his one true and biggest mistake was not aknowledging the potential of the warp. Its literally possible to create your own gods, as the eldar prove and as the imperium is literally proving right now with big e himself. Actual "progress" would include this in its science. Just ignoring it is not progress, its just ignorance. Instead of pretending that chaos exist, he could have just went the god-emperor route from the beginning and give Humanity its own realm in the warp.
React to some “vox in the void” plz
@anthraxcrab2222 thank you for the recommendation!
Ill add that one to the list!
Hope you enjoy the video! :)
@@TheRealCenturion Gav and Bob will make you cry. It's on episode 6 now. Catch up, brother. ;)
‘Abomination’ too if you want to see how grimdark 40K really is
I made the TV Tropes page for that film.
The short story of this os slightly different, great work is this though
If i ever had the ability to time travel, I would immediately visit the library of Alexandria before the burning. Its one of the only things that seem worth it to me.
That and the pyramid construction. Honestly looking throughout our history there so much weird things or "Blank" spaces that we simply have no idea about. Some of the few items that were said to come from Alexandria are mind blowing at best. Have you heard of the The Piri Reis Map before?
Hope you enjoyed the video :)
You should continiue emperor of mankind by luetin09, part 2 deals with Horus heresy and part 3 goes through this story but with context. Great reaction btw!
I really appreciate that! Part two might be coming tomorrow so stay tuned ;)
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Huh... quite a few things got changed from the original story. I'd recommend reading the short story for yourself.
Loved this. Please check out 'Sword Brethren', a fan made animation on the rise of a young Grimaldus. Yes, that Grimaldus. You'll dig it. 😊
No the Emperor is indeed talking about real world historical events as the past of 40k is the same as ours and our present which in lore he first hand saw. The Emperor was born at the very dawn of human civilization and watched the whole of recorded human history not from pages of a tome or book but through living it thus his strong stance against religion. He also was a more than a few religious people in the past him being possibly jesus and thr prophet muhammad and St. George. Which I think is another reason he feels so deeply about it as he is partly to account for it on top of knowing all that worship of gods feeds the Chaos gods which he can't tell anyone about as it would further empower them just from being known about. The Emperor at this moment was in a very hard spot both in the grand scheme of his plans as well as personally.
Also in the novel it was the Emperor who healed the priest as the Emperor can actually use his powers to heal others and even revive the dead. This was before all of mankind worshipped him as a god as well and ironically while he was alive to deny being anything of the sort only wanting to restore his people to their lost golden age where mankind had the best quality of life. Thus to me why 40k is grimdark as there was hope and the Emperor would at his core simply wanting a better future for his fellow man yet it all can to a screaming halt with chaos turning half his sons against him killing that hope.
The last church is in fact the first church.^^
Just discovered your channel today, love all the 40k reactions! I'm not sure if maybe it was mentioned in the comments before, but I can not recommend the "Vox in the Void" short audio 40k novels YT channel enough! It has some great content like "I am - A servitor tale", or "Cry Havoc" shorts. Would be awesome to see you check them out :)
I have not heard of those ones yet I dont think! Thank you for those recommendations, Ill write them down now!
Really glad your liking them! That means a lot :)
59:34 no its not more complicated. Firstly Thunder warriors are metally unstable and throughout tge entire unification wars constantly some of the turned into mad murder machines and had to be put down. They are pure barbaric warriors who had kept maby of the human traits you thought the emperor had tsken away. No its the total opposite, because the Thunder warrios still had so many normal human emotions they turned mad. So he realised that in his next project he needs to destroy this emotions to make them better soldiers. The astartes are basicly aliens to humanity most of them except a few arw incapable to undrstand most human feelings. You saw it in helsreach final episode where the female adjutant and the Major were kissing. Grimaldus reaction was "Madness, reclusiarch?" Bead the emperors champion asked. "Humans" Grimaldus said, "they are a mysterie to me".
How does burning of The Library of Alexandria have anything to do with religion??? Julius Caesar accidentally burned it down during a civil war.
Well given that the earliest written texts in history (to our knowledge)are usually of religious significance, i imagine the burning of Alexandria not only had much to do with loss of knowledge which DID lead to a dark age, but also you must consider how many artifacts , from how many cultures may have been there .
Mind you it happened around 50 BC, Alexanders conquest took place around 350 bc, and the library itself was constructed around 300bc. Not all successor kingdoms lasted that long obviously but its completely impossible to know just what was lost there, though i imagine if we still had those artifacts and texts now a days , that could shine some light on our diety(s) , with the context we have from modern times. I personally think it could have a lot to do with religion/theology in general.
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Can you react to Baldermort's Word Bearers 17th Legion
Ill write that down now! Thank you for the recommendation!
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@TheRealCenturion they started the worship of the Emperor. They later became the first worshipers of chaos ... because of Erebus
I love this story as an avenue for exploring WH40k, but I hate it as an avenue for theological discussions. People can't help but engage in earnest in this discourse, sadly without even trying to separate what they say as it applies to the WH40k universe from how it applies to real life.
@palpat8431 there is certainly a massive difference between 40k and real life, the concepts in a sense of what they say could similar but obviously we should not take what's said in 40k as the "one true truth" if that makes sense.
I was simply trying to use what little I know of theology to understand it a little better .
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I study theology and philosophy in my own time, I thought the arguments & statements could have improved on. It was unfortunate to hear that the author of The Last Church did not work with actual theologians both atheist and faithful - I think this could have been a proper philosophical tome that talks about the relationship between believers & atheists that debunked some of the common misconceptions, myths & misunderstandings from both sides - think of the style used in Plato's Republic, its philosophy taught by characters that talk & debate. Still a good novel, & I can understand getting too deep into philosophy & theology may bore an audience, so maybe that's why? Either way, it is a good novel & performed well by this cast.
I approve of you stopping to talk for a while to have some input, sharing opinion & perspective; we need a lot more ethical react content such as yours out there. Yeah, some people will find it annoying, but it adds so much more original content that I believe is both essential & admittedly the most stimulating part of react channels outside of the "wow" moments.
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As a christian i find this story very intriguing. The emperor misses many point and generalizes way too much in the name of "I know i am right."
Uriah is not a theologian, he doesnt have acess to much ot the history and records. He is a good man who ultimatly seeks to do good for those that need him
The debate is intetesting, yet neither are very good at debating, but taking the context, a demigod whos been alive for 40000 years, an old man whos devoted himself to a life of peace, then it makes sense and in the context of whats to come...anyone say forshadowing?
The Emperor had his agenda here and its evident by the fact that when Uriah refuted the Emperor's points he didn't try to refute them back(he just followed up with another point)
From a 40k context and the Emperor being aware of Godlike entities(like the chaos gods) makes his fear of religion more understandable.
The Emperor wasn't going to accept Uriahs point of View and it wasn't a real debate.
The points raised in the story are all depicting elements of the Imperial Cult that worships the Emperor in the 40k era(from human sacrifices to the Inquisition and the Crusades).
I agree, The Emperor is very literal, and he takes religion as such, ignoring the fact that any good could come from it because of the fact that bad HAS come from it.
Uriah, as someone simply trying to lead a good life, and that being taken from him in the name of "progress" still makes him the victim here....(as no one can or will martyr him anymore) Though that obviously was not his goal , I think the Emperor could see this and is why he waited until it was just him and personally tried to convince him of his way.
I think he could also see Uriah was a good person, And was doing what he believed to be right, which the Emperor does not tolerate in the case of religion obviously, but I think in this case its clear he still respected him, even offering him a place by his side if he was willing to move past his faith.
I think it was a great story , would love to see more from this time period if it exists.
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When you talked about jesus i thought of this.
What many people forget when it comes to jesus is that he "hanged around" alot of what many called bad people/low cast. poor, criminals and prostitues etc.
And even if many christians today do good things (in my opinion doing it only beacuse their book tells them to, and are you really a good person if you only do good things beacuse a book tells you to and for fear of hell?) many of them are the most judgemental people towards others. kinda rings bad in my ears if you concider how jesus lived according to their book
Seanse Warhammer has lent so much from us and our history, so the watch the priest is carrying around i think is supposed to be a representation of the doomsday clock that we have. Ours says 90 sec to midnight and is supposed to be a representation of how close we are to destroying ourselfs
Don't get us wrong, we're not good people. We are trying to be good people. We believe we've been given the road map to get there and have been promised a guide on that road.
@@kevinhill8193 i agree that humans are amongst the worst.
the point i was trying to make about being and doing good, if it comes from fear then it is selfserving. if you do something good for others, not beacuse someone or something told you or out of fear of damnation. without expecting a "reward or people telling you how good you are". Then you are a good person and i belive we know within ourselfs what is good, its just we have come to expect rewards for what we do.
Thats a very good way to put it and something I did not want to outright just say. The reality is, at that time , if you were lower class, that was sadly just your life. The world back then was very brutal, especially towards women for obvious reasons.
See I personally have met both types of people, I have seen religion do so much for someones life seemingly, actually make them value their life and treat other with decent intentions. But as you say, under the same guise of faith, Around the area I grew up, I have also seen religion be a complete authoritarian hand. Most young people from there whom were home schooled i believe are still in, those that went to public school with me, left the instant they were 18, most of which now are not "allowed" to talk to their parents (This was a minority in the area i grew up, I was not in it, Most people werent). Technically it was a Catholic faith but It certainly was/Is not main stream if you know what I mean. I can understand why you think that way.
Personally I dont think its right for me or anyone else to dictate how they live their life, but I do have a issue with radical outliers (Which are Prominent in some parts of the world a lot more then others).
Thats a good explanation of the watch! I did not think of that comparison but you are right!
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@kevinhill8193 And I think thats the best way forward. Ive seen faith do amazing things for people and at the end of the day, As long as your leading your life as a good person and simply trying your best to become better each day, thats far better to me then not ever even attempting to try because you dont see a point, Which sadly at times I fear everyone is guilty of.
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Luetin just made a video on age of apostasy which might interest you, its a period in which a funny little guy called Goge Vandire took control over organized religion in the imperium and did whatever he wanted, the sisters of battle where also formed in this period
Oh that does sound cool! Ill write that down now and maybe check it out soon since its new!
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