EXACTLY. We shouldnt be trying to elevate women to the top of hierarchies, we should be abolishing those hierarchies. A woman CEO doesn't cancel out the oppression or the issues faced by women at the bottom of the ladder. Its just capitalism masking itself as progressive.
How do you propose to eliminate hierarchies in universities, the police or the military? You can't. Even the Worker Co-op so loved by Socialists, Mondragon, has hierarchies, lots of them. If you discriminate, you will make a hierarchy. It is impossible not to discriminate at some point. Try it.
Roy G Biv - follow-up on the first half of your statement. The second half of your statement is designed to get you out of following-up on the first half. You can pass, that’s fine. But don’t think your rhetorical trick of ‘I pass because you’re dense’ was believed at all.
Yes and Jeff bezos and Mark Zuckerberg will be laughing all the way to the bank while you play on your phone in a dark room because the people outside are too racist.
How are you even relevant here, bro? ( I understand you are trolling and in your next comment you will verbally abuse me)- this is NOT the place to do such immature thing. Maybe search for some Indian news channel (hint*Republic TV*hint) and do these shenanigans, your vibe will match 😂🤣
Alfredo Alcantar she’s an author & activist who fights for the liberation of marginalize. Google. Do the work to find out her achievements. Armchair name calling is lazy and infantile. But replying to such is just as futile. Achieve even a smidgen of her canon and let’s talk.
@Roy G Biv I know right! You'd think America would have solved 99% of the issues she speaks about by now, but apparently not. So, yes she's had a FULL TIME JOB for that long...as do the rest of us black sistas who agree with her. Like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket.
If the goal is to get rid of hierarchies, why are we legitimizing them by trying to put privileged white women into more privileged positions? Shouldn't we be getting rid of those positions altogether?????
Agreed, many fashion models, rich celebrities think they deserve to be representatives of feminism! Where as they never suffered like most women around the world!
@@Homeside301 true, but still Emma Watson don't deserve where she is right as a representative of feminism, she is not an intellectual nor an academic! Being actress does not make you entitled to anything! Moreover it's not about "wearing struggle" but being aware of what you wear and where does that come from...
@Grim Reefer... It was not sad at all to me be refreshingly cogent and poignant... I loved how she broke down the systematic hand of White Supremacy in Feminist rhetoric and agendas...
I think it’s because modern feminism in North America is this weird 4th/5th wave movement perpetuated by middle class, 20-35 year old white women. They see themselves as eternal victims of patriarchy, despite working white collar jobs in tech or the culture industry, and they very rarely interact with anyone outside their class. When they travel, they go to western Europe or East Asia, they have really no exposure to anyone outside their little bubble. And their parents perpetuate this inner monologue as well.
Oh, geez. A lot of women never fit into feminism because much of it is stupid. Where are all the feminists stopping biological.men in women's sports, eh? It's not women's sports anymore when you allow cheating by allowing narcissist men in it. Marxism is evil. Capitalism is still better than socialism.
Good then,go back to where you came from,me a minority,worked my way thru the sweat,tears and opportunity s that this country provideds like no other,now stop with the poor me syndrome
She's brilliant, though I'm unconvinced that the audience understand her clarity... still, I'm glad that her liberty can travel into their thoughts. "...we must be prepared to continually challenge that which appears to us to be most normal..." "I'm not a feminist; I'm a Black-Revolutionary...!"
@ksts45Ⓐ I agree with Turtle P., but can't speak for them. The way I see it though, it sounds like "oh I'm smart enough to understand it, but they're not", while presumably not having any idea who the audience are. I've done this myself a lot in my life, and still do; used to be measured as a "smart" kid in school, so a big portion of my life is now being spent unlearning that internalized elitism, that which appears to me to be most normal.
@ksts45Ⓐ Yeah, I agree with you that people have varying mental capabilities. This didn't so much acknowledge that fact as assume the audience's intelligence in relation to their own, which feels unnecessarily presumptuous and hierarchical.
I think I'm guilty of this bourgeois feminism she is talking about in my late teens, I didn't reach clarity about feminism and definitely about race and intersectionality until my mid-twenties when I moved countries to go to college (I'm Mediterrenean, small island). I'm commenting to help with the algorithm
@Roy G Biv Not sure what you mean, but I think it's good practice to recognise when you've been wrong in the past; it reminds you that there's a good chance you might not have things correct now and therefore you should always strive to learn and listen more.
Angela Davis is so smart and so caring for those most oppressed in our society. Only a person interested in the continued exploitation of others would oppose her.
I only wish to add from listening to the main stream media, that I myself (white English btw) have been the victim of systemic racism for several years without realizing! No where near as diabolical as what poor Mr Floyd went thru though so don't take me wrong! but all the young black lads on the BBC say they suffer racism via stop and search for no reason, not getting jobs via stereotypical profiling etc members of public avoiding them or being suspicious etc. I was stopped by police about 15 times and searched for nothing when I lived in illford! Iv'e been unsuccessful getting jobs b4! I thought I wasn't good enough but now I know I can just assume racist motives and have the BBC accept this (or else they racist!'). I also been in Polish corner shops and had the shop keeper accuse me of stealing when I haven't! I thought he was just a twat! now I know he was racist! Seriously though I hope people realize our western nation are well on the way to corrupt police state status!
@@oldschoolcockneylover8138 There is such a thing as class oppression and the identitarians miss this. There is also police abuse and violence in general. It is worst for black and Latino people, but we can all be victimized.
@@oldschoolcockneylover8138 The whole point is that there's multiple systems of oppression, most white people are oppressed by capitalism, many of our ancestors (& our contemporaries) were fooled into supporting imperialism, slavery, racism etc instead of realizing our common interests with colonized people. You are likely profiled based on the neighborhood, your clothing, how you speak, class markers etc.
@@justindc5362 they are def racist but def there were great women doing work! america as a settler state prevented early feminism from being 100% inclusive.
@@justindc5362 some white women supporter the abolision of slavery. The "leaders" of the feminist movement however. Did not want black women to have the same rights as the same rights as them.
There was an episode of "a Different World" that aired in the late 80s/early 90s where they addressed this issue....They stated that "feminism" and "the women's movement" were two different things....and they went on to mention that black women already had to work outside the home so the "feminist" movement did little more than paying lip service to the black woman....deep....
@@peacheskong2245 a lot of black women (including myself) will identify as “womanists” because they feel as though mainstream feminism only panders to the needs of white women.
I'm a white Marxist-Leninist, and I've been doing research on the modern “mainstream feminist” movement. Davis is so articulate and really tackles the topic so well. Intersectionality is the PERFECT word for it. She is brilliant, and the world needs to listen to her right now, with the rise of fascism and patriarchy in the West.
I recently wrote my final paper for an English class last semester using a buncha the class's readings on how the hierarchal and systemic nature of racism and sexism in the United States are naturally reinforced by capitalism and class society, and how intersectional struggles must be fought along class lines to create concrete change of their material conditions. I hadn't really known about Davis before writing it, but I wish I did because her analysis is incredible and exactly what I was trying to get at in that essay and more! I talked about how feminists within academia are disconnected from that challenges that working class women actually face on a material basis, and instead only seek to discuss feminism in the abstract in a privileged position as academics who likely come from more affluent or backgrounds to even be able to be there in the first place. Joy Castro's "On Becoming Educated" was a really interesting read, although I wish it directly confronted the class aspect of her critique of feminism in academia, she touched on it multiple times and it would've been cool to see a more class-conscious and nuanced approach like what Davis presents in this video.
I am so glad to hear her speak. Angela Davis is a brilliant woman and it is a damn shame that I am only now learning about her. Her teachings should be in every school “diversity is not enough, we do not wish to be included in a racist society” gave me chills
Glad she makes this distinction, very wise of her. White upper middle class feminists, which is what almost all the feminist lobby is composed of, is NOT an ally of black women...or anyone else for that matter, except maybe the plutocracy.
Who in their right mind think a person has civil rights under communism. Marxism Leninism communisn very deceptive. Obivious you are deceived. So we should all desire to be poor and oppressed. Historically communism does not work. She is full of it. Her speech sounds as if she is drugged and in a daze. Don't force your junk on me.
@@marysharp9754 Can you name a single Marxist society that has existed please? And I mean true Marxist, what Marx advocated for, not how people interpreted his views or how they have been twisted throughout time.
@@madouc5754 Who's we? I've never lived in a Marxist country, and you haven't either. However, I live in a capitalist country with some semi-socialist policies..Like free healthcare, free prescriptions and free education. I'm guessing you're American and scared the commies are coming for you yeah?
What movement, what are you trying to achieve? Are black women not allowed to go to University? (programs to get minorities with lower grades in) Are they not getting hired? (diversity quotas) Are they not allowed to start businesses? All I'm hearing is accusations against white people, no evidence, no solutions, nothing at all concrete, just pandering to people!
@@jahnaviraman5411 Nothing youre saying is concrete, why dont you provide their University rates, the positions they occupy, crime rates, drug abuse rates. There could be many reasons for getting paid less. They die more during pregnancy? How's that racist/sexist? Are you seriously suggesting Doctors are letting black women die more because they're black? And your last point is exactly what I said not to do, completely generic accusation without any substance.
Another point (from my European perspective), is that the focus is so much between men and women (Nordic countries and central European countries). With special focus of white people. The real problems are indeed the strong hierarchies and social status. And the fact that all people, of all genders and of all races are not given the same opportunities. That's the real problem with our society. What's the point of having 50% woman CEO'S? How is that going to help our society? How is that going to create opportunities to people of a "lower" social class?
I remember a few years i was taking the train to my university in the east of the netherlands and I noticed a girl from my class who was always bragging about her 'woke', feminist politics. We had a chat. Me being a marxist, i asked her about her views on Bernie Sanders (the 2016 elections were coming up and I wasn't trying to seem too radical). She responded: no, I don't want another man in power, i sincerely hope it'll be Hillary Clinton. I was shocked the poisonous politics from the USA had hit my country. It's only worsened through the years. This 'radical' glossey liberal feminism must be destroyed by all means.
@@selty stop defending white feminism. Liberal feminism is explicitly dominates by racist white women who call themselves feminists but never understand intersectionality.
Well, shit. I thought people were turning on mainstream feminism because they weren't ready for so much change. Turns out mainstream feminism wasn't progressive enough. Thanks for sharing!
"Standards for feminism are created by those who have already ascended economic hierarchy and are attempting to make the last climb to the top. How is this relevant to the women who are at the very bottom?" This statement floored me. I never was a feminist and neither was my mother or my sister. We were all strong women fighting through poverty and yet my mother insisted on learning, always. Digging through dumpsters for food and lugging water around just to survive. We never had the luxury of having an argument about women not in STEM fields. Men and women in my world had to survive day one together. It did make me strong though. I don't need a man to survive...but I want one beside me..toiling and digging deep. Feminism isn't for me.
"Revolutionary hope resides precisely among those women who have been abandoned by history and are now standing up and making their demands heard" amazing 💗 "People who have suffered in that way, when they begin to rise, the whole world will rise with them"
this is so relevant for the topic of pornography, how mainstream feminism keeps advocating for "reforming" porn (i.e. "feminist" porn, onlyfans, etc.) instead of abolishing it. the women who are able to participate in such reforms are pushing aside hundreds of thousands of women and girls who are sexually exploited all over the world. the commodification of sex work gentrifies that awful business and makes it pass as "empowering", as something women should do to "embrace" our sexuality, when there are many other ways to do so without contributing to the upholding of a system that exploits women and girls.
Thought I would add the latest poor attempt at pandering I recently came across. A BANK of Australia billboard, "I bank with x because they believe in gender diversity". Such a joke
The homophobic comments in the comment section makes me sad. Y'all are fighting amongst each other and making Right-wing talking points. Who cares?? That's why liberals and feminists lose most of the time. Fighting amongst each other over petty stuff. Socialists and Communists don't care about that. Might not understand it but it's their choice.
Allen Greene just because you not buying into the tavistock institute mind control PROGRAMMING off the looney left and the Rothchilds eugenics program of depopulation to bring the Georgia guidestones into affect does not make you right wing !
U believe in a disney fantasy world u are all our slaves we dont care what u pathetic humans call yourselfes which boxes u put yourselfes in to make it easier for your pathetic brains good evil etc all illusions lies u tell yourselfes to feel safer what normal to the spider is chaos to the fly theirs only change the only power thats real and forever nothing can escape it all your human fantasies,dreams,ideas,views,religions,etc all your civilisations will be nothing but a dead memory of a extinct peoples nobody remembers nor cares about wen the sun swallows the earth and eventually dies everything your kind is was shall be nothing u are all the same worthless beings mindless followers u are a slave to our creations one example a piece of paper with meaningless symbols on it and u all kill for it u cant move without getting a reward u will never be free u dont want to u love the worlds,realities we weave for u theirs always a choice and u keep taking the most easiest roads leading to your own destruction u are actually killing yourselfes
alchemy432 the fool card magician you need help. you’ve fallen into the antisemitic rabbit hole created by the original nazis and repackaged by neo-nazis in the right- wing libertarian circles.
It's easy to talk the talk and something altogether different to walk the walk. Action on the midst of struggle is mandatory. George X said, patience taken to far is cowardice.
I'm so glad this came up recently for me and obviously many others. Now more than ever I feel myself losing the script and sliding into nihilism. There is a point and there is will and we *must* make things better. For ourselves. For our siblings. For those to come. Angela *is* a revolutionary and I hate that her views are still considered radical by so many.
There is a book I recommend anyone reading this to get, called "I Dare To Say" -- It has stories of the voices that are being ignored. The mothering Original Women trapped in tradition & capitalistic mayhem. It will truly open your Eye
You need to open your eyes to the fact that much of what Black American men call traditional is misogynistic and inherited from white male supremacist thought and ideology. Check out your mind and see what actually inhabits it.
JAMBERRY Your comment must be to someone else on here. I work with Black Men to rehab and focus on the ones, who focus on themselves and their community. African flaws, Aboriginal flaws, Indeginous flaws... Guess what? They all can be healed. But others rather talk talk talk than heal themselves, live & walk the undeniable Truth and lay off this feminisim/ divisive fuckery that has nothing to do with cleaning up ourselves true to OUR Human Nature. Your thoughts are your visions. Your labors, are your fruits. My family and I have land in 2 states from our slave ancestors. So you put it together...
Lol! Sounds more you're working at just talk than anything else. All Black lives matter not just the ones you deem worthy of mattering. And this is where you flaw by thinking that they don't. You and those Black men you work with need to work on that so that the idea of people loving who they want to love does not trigger you so. You divide yourselves from us all just by that alone. Feeling a little left out are you?
Nah! Not researching you. You may have thought you were doing work, but whatever you did it wasn't enough. Go somewhere else and pat yourself on the back. I ain't interested.
Ms.Davis Hello I’m sending you roses , You have inspired Me, Huney in a ways School, Disability, Women being Recognized, Children not left behind, CCW’s , Knowledge Of Life , etc… I’m 51 live in Ohio and it’s because of Angela Davis I’ve made it this far 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹LUV U🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷🌷
As an immigrant woman here in the United States with Indigenous background, I didn't know of how powerful Indigenous women were in Latin America, I grew up reading alot of Black American feminist writings which inspired me. It's been awesome to read global social movements led by Indigenous and Black women.
I descend from poor and working class women of color. Revolutionary hope presides precisely by those women who have been abandoned....poor women, black women, Muslim women, trans women. We stand up against racism. We do not wish to be included in racist society. We do not wish to be assimilated into a hetero, patriarchal, misogynistic society. Revolution upsets class based, gender based, and race based.
This is a really good point and I didn’t really think about it like this. Even I as someone who would label myself as a “feminist” because ppl have called me that but the umbrella of feminism doesn’t cover everyone. If you a tree close to the ceiling the it’s easier for you and so it’s really about bring up those at the bottom.
Prophetic, revolutionary, Black Intellectuals have such a broad yet cutting critique of power and a wholesome, palpable love for people.. This is America’s most important intellectual tradition if we ever hope to ascend from our White Supremacist origins and cast off the shackles of consumerism, militarism, and mass poverty. ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏼 Solidarity to all people across the world being sacrificed at the whims of the powerful.
straight facts. finding that classism and capitalism is as strong if not a stronger oppressor that feeds on racism, xenophobia, homophobia and any other form of hate and discrimination. Feminism acts like it’s the great equalizer and destroyer of sexism but it’s not. Greatly illustrated by the fact that i don’t celebrate the anniversary of a woman’s right to vote in 1920. Because that wasn’t my battle. it wasn’t a woman’s battle. it was for the affluent white women to rise in rank w affluent white men
I love this. I consider myself a feminist but not a toxic feminist. I want equality for everyone and you can never have equality without equity. Equity has to come first because equity puts power in the hands of marginalized communities to fight for social equality.
I was asked if I was a feminist recently. I am a white male. Instead of giving a simple “yes” I said that I am unsure what it would even mean to say I was a feminist as I felt it an almost platitudinous to simply state that I believe in women’s right therefore I was a feminist. I was scolded by the women in my presence who took it as a personal insult that I couldn’t simply say “yes I am a feminist” and be done with it. I felt horrible and questioned whether there was some latent sexism that I harbored that caused me to respond in that way but after reading and hearing things similar to this it has validated my concern to simply comply to a simple narrative that treats every issue from a position of simply men and women. Unfortunately, I know a lot of men that are very confident in their declaration of being feminists solely based on the simple idea that men and women are equal but who in practice are extremely sexist in their conduct.
Louis Hob There are feminists who are critical of those practices. Where have you been? Don’t confuse someone like Hillary Clinton or other neo-liberals with actual feminists.
Feminism is about tearing down Western Civilization. It is part of Critical Theory. It is not for attacking Islam. Feminism is for placing the family under State ownership or control. No more head of the household. Feminists are taught they don’t need a man.
EXACTLY. We shouldnt be trying to elevate women to the top of hierarchies, we should be abolishing those hierarchies. A woman CEO doesn't cancel out the oppression or the issues faced by women at the bottom of the ladder. Its just capitalism masking itself as progressive.
Fuck yes!! ✊🏼🖤❤
I see posters here who should be reading the world socialist website
www.wsws.org/
That last sentence is perfect 👌🏾
@@travisjackson7171 Agreed!!! #AngelaDavisIsMyDreamHuman #CapitalismKills #BLM #intersectionalityegalitarianismIsAWESOME #UniteAndFight #TheRevolutionIsNOW #FTP
How do you propose to eliminate hierarchies in universities, the police or the military? You can't. Even the Worker Co-op so loved by Socialists, Mondragon, has hierarchies, lots of them.
If you discriminate, you will make a hierarchy.
It is impossible not to discriminate at some point. Try it.
I adore when she says "we don't want inclusion, inclusion in a racist society where profit counts much more than human beings" ✊🏿❤️
That is what she wants watch and educate yourself Watch "Cuba 1958: Myths and Lies" on UA-cam
ua-cam.com/video/HnYtygF3HuA/v-deo.html
She was speaking factssss
@@afrobabe4341 She is a marxist. She was speakin materialism. Dialectical indeed xD
"Feminism is grounded in hierarchies. It privileges those who already have privilege." Wow, mind blown.
@Roy G Biv You like living in the Matrix, don't you?
Burgeoise feminism*
@Roy G Biv you're awfully ignorant and despicable
@Roy G Biv So what about the statement is wrong? If you're so much smarter than all these people
Roy G Biv - follow-up on the first half of your statement. The second half of your statement is designed to get you out of following-up on the first half. You can pass, that’s fine. But don’t think your rhetorical trick of ‘I pass because you’re dense’ was believed at all.
"diversity is not enough. inclusion is not enough. in fact, we do not want to be included in a racist society"
i- wow.
Yes and Jeff bezos and Mark Zuckerberg will be laughing all the way to the bank while you play on your phone in a dark room because the people outside are too racist.
@@Jordan-mn2ty k
@@bebop9152 ok tell me what you think!
She’s a descendant of slave owners. She owes reparations.
I’ve hugged this woman after a speaking event. One of the greatest moments of my life.
Truly a legend
Roy G Biv Thanks, bro 🤙🏽
so jelly
Jealous!
How are you even relevant here, bro?
( I understand you are trolling and in your next comment you will verbally abuse me)- this is NOT the place to do such immature thing.
Maybe search for some Indian news channel (hint*Republic TV*hint) and do these shenanigans, your vibe will match 😂🤣
Fifty years later and Miss Davis is making more sense than ever.
Wisdom comes with age
Rather, the world is catching up to her and we are finally making sense of her.
She is a Marxist that’s not wise
Alfredo Alcantar she’s an author & activist who fights for the liberation of marginalize. Google. Do the work to find out her achievements. Armchair name calling is lazy and infantile. But replying to such is just as futile. Achieve even a smidgen of her canon and let’s talk.
Not a good idea to champion lesbians, homosexuals, and trans people like she did. She's pandering to immoral people, and they just eat it up.
ngl she do b spittin tho
fax descartes
Roy G Biv You know that’s right! ☮️💟
@Roy G Biv I know right! You'd think America would have solved 99% of the issues she speaks about by now, but apparently not. So, yes she's had a FULL TIME JOB for that long...as do the rest of us black sistas who agree with her. Like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket.
Translation please?
Grateful these are up. Back in the day we needed a plane ticket to witness stuff like this.
If the goal is to get rid of hierarchies, why are we legitimizing them by trying to put privileged white women into more privileged positions? Shouldn't we be getting rid of those positions altogether?????
cause everyone keeps listening to rich hollywood women who want even more millions of dollars they will never spend in their lifetime
Get a grip baki
We should be employing horizontal positions within our social movements as much as possible.
We are cultural conditioned to place, accept and give honor to privileged wte women.
Marxism Socialist agenda: divide and conquer man&woman, homosexuality&heterosexual, patent&child, christianity&atheism
Someone send this to Emma Watson as much as I love Emma she needs to learn more
Agreed, many fashion models, rich celebrities think they deserve to be representatives of feminism! Where as they never suffered like most women around the world!
Naeem Rahman some of them anyway. A lot of people know struggle and have money NOW. Not everybody has to wear their struggles like clothing.
@@Homeside301 true, but still Emma Watson don't deserve where she is right as a representative of feminism, she is not an intellectual nor an academic! Being actress does not make you entitled to anything!
Moreover it's not about "wearing struggle" but being aware of what you wear and where does that come from...
@@NaeemJigsaw never read such a sexist comment here and UA-cam before. Discussing! #TeamEmma #FemalePower
@@Iknowbetterthanyou 😂😂😂
You must read "Woman, Race and Class"
..is the speaker the author..
Yes, 😁
Completely mind opening but def many true sad vibes in it that made me angry ,all people should study this book.
@Grim Reefer...
It was not sad at all to me be refreshingly cogent and poignant... I loved how she broke down the systematic hand of White Supremacy in Feminist rhetoric and agendas...
i really want to
She has a point. As a black woman, I’ve never felt that I fit into the mold of what is the feminist movement in America.
I think it’s because modern feminism in North America is this weird 4th/5th wave movement perpetuated by middle class, 20-35 year old white women. They see themselves as eternal victims of patriarchy, despite working white collar jobs in tech or the culture industry, and they very rarely interact with anyone outside their class. When they travel, they go to western Europe or East Asia, they have really no exposure to anyone outside their little bubble. And their parents perpetuate this inner monologue as well.
Oh, geez. A lot of women never fit into feminism because much of it is stupid. Where are all the feminists stopping biological.men in women's sports, eh?
It's not women's sports anymore when you allow cheating by allowing narcissist men in it.
Marxism is evil. Capitalism is still better than socialism.
@@serpentines6356 false
@@creepypasta5683 What's false? Where is your "argument"?
I claim what I state is quite true.
Good then,go back to where you came from,me a minority,worked my way thru the sweat,tears and opportunity s that this country provideds like no other,now stop with the poor me syndrome
A true understanding of what's really going on within the movement
Yes, very much agree. That said, I did find her a little naive about upcoming revolutions. Don't see much change of any real change :(
She's brilliant, though I'm unconvinced that the audience understand her clarity... still, I'm glad that her liberty can travel into their thoughts.
"...we must be prepared to continually challenge that which appears to us to be most normal..."
"I'm not a feminist; I'm a Black-Revolutionary...!"
Glad that there are still some wemen who believe in the struggle.you,'er a Nubian queen in my mind.
“ though I'm unconvinced that the audience understand her clarity”
This sounds a little too elitist to me
@ksts45Ⓐ I agree with Turtle P., but can't speak for them. The way I see it though, it sounds like "oh I'm smart enough to understand it, but they're not", while presumably not having any idea who the audience are. I've done this myself a lot in my life, and still do; used to be measured as a "smart" kid in school, so a big portion of my life is now being spent unlearning that internalized elitism, that which appears to me to be most normal.
@ksts45Ⓐ Yeah, I agree with you that people have varying mental capabilities. This didn't so much acknowledge that fact as assume the audience's intelligence in relation to their own, which feels unnecessarily presumptuous and hierarchical.
Yes to abolition feminism
I think I'm guilty of this bourgeois feminism she is talking about in my late teens, I didn't reach clarity about feminism and definitely about race and intersectionality until my mid-twenties when I moved countries to go to college (I'm Mediterrenean, small island). I'm commenting to help with the algorithm
Specifically you mean you're Greek
@Roy G Biv Not sure what you mean, but I think it's good practice to recognise when you've been wrong in the past; it reminds you that there's a good chance you might not have things correct now and therefore you should always strive to learn and listen more.
@@mokmekhar7312 Not Greece but close to it
Myrto Stavrikkou he’s being rude. good on you for your efforts
Roy G Biv yeah, crazy to imagine it’s excusable because it’s the internet. wish you the best!
this is the black panther these black ppl need to be excited about
Jaja Banks BPP's name came from the cartoon. You tried tho.
That's not true...
ua-cam.com/video/EukElITplo4/v-deo.html
Angela Davis was not a Black Panther, honey
Ckie Mnstr LOL. That’s not true at all
@@ChynaFox
How come she never joined?
God I love Angela Davis. She’s the voice we need to be listening to right now
Watch "Cuba 1958: Myths and Lies" on UA-cam
ua-cam.com/video/HnYtygF3HuA/v-deo.html
If you listen to her that will happened to you watch the video
Angela Davis is so smart and so caring for those most oppressed in our society. Only a person interested in the continued exploitation of others would oppose her.
what like Blacks who disagree with her?
@MG C thanks for info
I only wish to add from listening to the main stream media, that I myself (white English btw) have been the victim of systemic racism for several years without realizing! No where near as diabolical as what poor Mr Floyd went thru though so don't take me wrong! but all the young black lads on the BBC say they suffer racism via stop and search for no reason, not getting jobs via stereotypical profiling etc members of public avoiding them or being suspicious etc. I was stopped by police about 15 times and searched for nothing when I lived in illford! Iv'e been unsuccessful getting jobs b4! I thought I wasn't good enough but now I know I can just assume racist motives and have the BBC accept this (or else they racist!'). I also been in Polish corner shops and had the shop keeper accuse me of stealing when I haven't! I thought he was just a twat! now I know he was racist! Seriously though I hope people realize our western nation are well on the way to corrupt police state status!
@@oldschoolcockneylover8138 There is such a thing as class oppression and the identitarians miss this. There is also police abuse and violence in general. It is worst for black and Latino people, but we can all be victimized.
@@oldschoolcockneylover8138 The whole point is that there's multiple systems of oppression, most white people are oppressed by capitalism, many of our ancestors (& our contemporaries) were fooled into supporting imperialism, slavery, racism etc instead of realizing our common interests with colonized people. You are likely profiled based on the neighborhood, your clothing, how you speak, class markers etc.
Feminism has always been about bourgeoise women Angela. Feminism exluded Black people from the beginning.
@@justindc5362 they are def racist but def there were great women doing work! america as a settler state prevented early feminism from being 100% inclusive.
Black women were feminists bf the term was birthed
Only communism is good for freeing the oppressed
That is why there is Intersectional Feminsim
@@justindc5362 some white women supporter the abolision of slavery. The "leaders" of the feminist movement however. Did not want black women to have the same rights as the same rights as them.
There was an episode of "a Different World" that aired in the late 80s/early 90s where they addressed this issue....They stated that "feminism" and "the women's movement" were two different things....and they went on to mention that black women already had to work outside the home so the "feminist" movement did little more than paying lip service to the black woman....deep....
Yep, it's called "womanism".
@@Heyu7her3 what's called 'womanism'? Didn't really catch that
@@peacheskong2245 a lot of
black women (including myself) will identify as “womanists” because they feel as though mainstream feminism only panders to the needs of white women.
Bill Cosby produced 'a different world', how ironic.
She is absolutely the best. Honored to be alive at the same time as her.
Her undyed, full, and beautiful afro added decades to my life.
Amazing content, one of the most inspirational and heavy hitting activists of all time!
I fell in love with her and Stokely Carmichael after watching a documentary. They are just out of this world brilliant. Ahead of their time.
@@JBijouxee Definitely up there with James Baldwin and Bell Hooks
I'm a white Marxist-Leninist, and I've been doing research on the modern “mainstream feminist” movement. Davis is so articulate and really tackles the topic so well. Intersectionality is the PERFECT word for it. She is brilliant, and the world needs to listen to her right now, with the rise of fascism and patriarchy in the West.
I recently wrote my final paper for an English class last semester using a buncha the class's readings on how the hierarchal and systemic nature of racism and sexism in the United States are naturally reinforced by capitalism and class society, and how intersectional struggles must be fought along class lines to create concrete change of their material conditions. I hadn't really known about Davis before writing it, but I wish I did because her analysis is incredible and exactly what I was trying to get at in that essay and more! I talked about how feminists within academia are disconnected from that challenges that working class women actually face on a material basis, and instead only seek to discuss feminism in the abstract in a privileged position as academics who likely come from more affluent or backgrounds to even be able to be there in the first place. Joy Castro's "On Becoming Educated" was a really interesting read, although I wish it directly confronted the class aspect of her critique of feminism in academia, she touched on it multiple times and it would've been cool to see a more class-conscious and nuanced approach like what Davis presents in this video.
I am so glad to hear her speak. Angela Davis is a brilliant woman and it is a damn shame that I am only now learning about her. Her teachings should be in every school “diversity is not enough, we do not wish to be included in a racist society” gave me chills
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Glad she makes this distinction, very wise of her. White upper middle class feminists, which is what almost all the feminist lobby is composed of, is NOT an ally of black women...or anyone else for that matter, except maybe the plutocracy.
Who in their right mind think a person has civil rights under communism. Marxism Leninism communisn very deceptive. Obivious you are deceived. So we should all desire to be poor and oppressed. Historically communism does not work. She is full of it. Her speech sounds as if she is drugged and in a daze. Don't force your junk on me.
@@marysharp9754 Can you name a single Marxist society that has existed please? And I mean true Marxist, what Marx advocated for, not how people interpreted his views or how they have been twisted throughout time.
@@marysharp9754 Are you aware of how many people have been made poor through Capitalism also? Or do you just look at history with a bias..
@@Shmingleshmangle You think we should give it another bash then?
@@madouc5754 Who's we? I've never lived in a Marxist country, and you haven't either. However, I live in a capitalist country with some semi-socialist policies..Like free healthcare, free prescriptions and free education. I'm guessing you're American and scared the commies are coming for you yeah?
I love how she embraced feminism and is making place for all of us in this movement. I love her so much.
periodt
What movement, what are you trying to achieve? Are black women not allowed to go to University? (programs to get minorities with lower grades in) Are they not getting hired? (diversity quotas) Are they not allowed to start businesses? All I'm hearing is accusations against white people, no evidence, no solutions, nothing at all concrete, just pandering to people!
FBeckenbauer4 they get paid less, they’re more likely to die in pregnancy, they face a combination of racism AND sexism. that’s just a few
@@jahnaviraman5411 Nothing youre saying is concrete, why dont you provide their University rates, the positions they occupy, crime rates, drug abuse rates. There could be many reasons for getting paid less. They die more during pregnancy? How's that racist/sexist? Are you seriously suggesting Doctors are letting black women die more because they're black? And your last point is exactly what I said not to do, completely generic accusation without any substance.
@@FBeckenbauer4 why don't you literally just google things instead of being like "this doesn't exist just because ive never heard of it"
the part at 6:36 about police and prison reform hitting really hard right now
Another point (from my European perspective), is that the focus is so much between men and women (Nordic countries and central European countries). With special focus of white people.
The real problems are indeed the strong hierarchies and social status. And the fact that all people, of all genders and of all races are not given the same opportunities.
That's the real problem with our society.
What's the point of having 50% woman CEO'S? How is that going to help our society? How is that going to create opportunities to people of a "lower" social class?
The un-united states of plutocracy.
I love you so much for still doing it! Power to the people!
Power to all the people, right on!
Thank you Angela!!
I remember a few years i was taking the train to my university in the east of the netherlands and I noticed a girl from my class who was always bragging about her 'woke', feminist politics. We had a chat. Me being a marxist, i asked her about her views on Bernie Sanders (the 2016 elections were coming up and I wasn't trying to seem too radical). She responded: no, I don't want another man in power, i sincerely hope it'll be Hillary Clinton. I was shocked the poisonous politics from the USA had hit my country. It's only worsened through the years. This 'radical' glossey liberal feminism must be destroyed by all means.
My dude no. Bougey feminism just needa to change to reflect the intersectionality of the struggles.
Destroyed? No just educated.
@@selty stop defending white feminism. Liberal feminism is explicitly dominates by racist white women who call themselves feminists but never understand intersectionality.
@@reyhanziad8974 no shit but his comment just screamed brocialist, thats why i said reeducate em
@@TheRijkehabbo You can't even spell properly or use punctuation. Jog on dipshit.
Well, shit. I thought people were turning on mainstream feminism because they weren't ready for so much change. Turns out mainstream feminism wasn't progressive enough. Thanks for sharing!
Ms. Davis is giving me life!!! Love her, and her message and thank you for uploading this.
This is an awesome channel!
thank you so much for sharing these videos! incredible words by an incredible woman
💙☀️✨🙏🏻 Her book/s definitely changed what feminism means to me and what the work could/should be.
"Standards for feminism are created by those who have already ascended economic hierarchy and are attempting to make the last climb to the top. How is this relevant to the women who are at the very bottom?" This statement floored me. I never was a feminist and neither was my mother or my sister. We were all strong women fighting through poverty and yet my mother insisted on learning, always. Digging through dumpsters for food and lugging water around just to survive. We never had the luxury of having an argument about women not in STEM fields. Men and women in my world had to survive day one together. It did make me strong though. I don't need a man to survive...but I want one beside me..toiling and digging deep. Feminism isn't for me.
On International Women's Day: Salute, Sister Angela, Power and Equality! let's go all the way for liberation!
"Revolutionary hope resides precisely among those women who have been abandoned by history and are now standing up and making their demands heard" amazing 💗
"People who have suffered in that way, when they begin to rise, the whole world will rise with them"
Moma Gela is always here for me when I’m ready to learn I give thanks for wise guidance🙏🏾💜
this is so relevant for the topic of pornography, how mainstream feminism keeps advocating for "reforming" porn (i.e. "feminist" porn, onlyfans, etc.) instead of abolishing it. the women who are able to participate in such reforms are pushing aside hundreds of thousands of women and girls who are sexually exploited all over the world. the commodification of sex work gentrifies that awful business and makes it pass as "empowering", as something women should do to "embrace" our sexuality, when there are many other ways to do so without contributing to the upholding of a system that exploits women and girls.
It’s interesting how people that want to ban porn are like 50% RadFems and 50% Traditionalist Reactionaries with Roman statue profile pictures
Thanks again
So agree! This so raw and so real!
I love her. She speaks so honest. I wish I could meet her.
Reminds me of when Raytheon made their CEO a woman thinking that would put them in good moral standing with the rest of society
Don't forget General Motors & the CEO Mary Bryan (sp)
Not just Raytheon either. I remember seeing “inspiring” articles about how most of weapons manufacturing companies are being headed by women CEOs.
Thought I would add the latest poor attempt at pandering I recently came across. A BANK of Australia billboard, "I bank with x because they believe in gender diversity". Such a joke
The homophobic comments in the comment section makes me sad. Y'all are fighting amongst each other and making Right-wing talking points. Who cares?? That's why liberals and feminists lose most of the time. Fighting amongst each other over petty stuff. Socialists and Communists don't care about that. Might not understand it but it's their choice.
Allen Greene agreed. Its also why i stick closer to my comrades because I know they arent caught up in bullshit hierarchy worshipping like libs are...
Allen Greene socialists and communists don't fight with each other? You need a history lesson.
Allen Greene just because you not buying into the tavistock institute mind control PROGRAMMING off the looney left and the Rothchilds eugenics program of depopulation to bring the Georgia guidestones into affect does not make you right wing !
U believe in a disney fantasy world u are all our slaves we dont care what u pathetic humans call yourselfes which boxes u put yourselfes in to make it easier for your pathetic brains good evil etc all illusions lies u tell yourselfes to feel safer what normal to the spider is chaos to the fly theirs only change the only power thats real and forever nothing can escape it all your human fantasies,dreams,ideas,views,religions,etc all your civilisations will be nothing but a dead memory of a extinct peoples nobody remembers nor cares about wen the sun swallows the earth and eventually dies everything your kind is was shall be nothing u are all the same worthless beings mindless followers u are a slave to our creations one example a piece of paper with meaningless symbols on it and u all kill for it u cant move without getting a reward u will never be free u dont want to u love the worlds,realities we weave for u theirs always a choice and u keep taking the most easiest roads leading to your own destruction u are actually killing yourselfes
alchemy432 the fool card magician
you need help. you’ve fallen into the antisemitic rabbit hole created by the original nazis and repackaged by neo-nazis in the right- wing libertarian circles.
Thanks for sharing.
It's easy to talk the talk and something altogether different to walk the walk. Action on the midst of struggle is mandatory. George X said, patience taken to far is cowardice.
I'm so glad this came up recently for me and obviously many others. Now more than ever I feel myself losing the script and sliding into nihilism. There is a point and there is will and we *must* make things better. For ourselves. For our siblings. For those to come. Angela *is* a revolutionary and I hate that her views are still considered radical by so many.
I had no idea that 'radical' is such a bad word in the USA.
You owe people reoperations!!!!
Ugh I needed this
i love herrrrrrrrrr just oozing so much truth and beauty to her people, amazing
"When they begin to rise, the whole world will rise with them"
Great recommendation
Whew! The take on the glass ceiling was amazing 👏🏾
There is a book I recommend anyone reading this to get, called "I Dare To Say" -- It has stories of the voices that are being ignored. The mothering Original Women trapped in tradition & capitalistic mayhem. It will truly open your Eye
You need to open your eyes to the fact that much of what Black American men call traditional is misogynistic and inherited from white male supremacist thought and ideology. Check out your mind and see what actually inhabits it.
JAMBERRY Your comment must be to someone else on here. I work with Black Men to rehab and focus on the ones, who focus on themselves and their community. African flaws, Aboriginal flaws, Indeginous flaws... Guess what? They all can be healed. But others rather talk talk talk than heal themselves, live & walk the undeniable Truth and lay off this feminisim/ divisive fuckery that has nothing to do with cleaning up ourselves true to OUR Human Nature. Your thoughts are your visions. Your labors, are your fruits. My family and I have land in 2 states from our slave ancestors. So you put it together...
Lol! Sounds more you're working at just talk than anything else. All Black lives matter not just the ones you deem worthy of mattering. And this is where you flaw by thinking that they don't. You and those Black men you work with need to work on that so that the idea of people loving who they want to love does not trigger you so. You divide yourselves from us all just by that alone. Feeling a little left out are you?
Nah! Not researching you. You may have thought you were doing work, but whatever you did it wasn't enough. Go somewhere else and pat yourself on the back. I ain't interested.
Lol! Wish me death? It ain't happening. Go somewhere else and spew your hate.
“The hallmark of feminism today is what we call intersectionality”
Ms.Davis Hello
I’m sending you roses , You have inspired Me, Huney in a ways School, Disability, Women being Recognized, Children not left behind, CCW’s , Knowledge Of Life , etc… I’m 51 live in Ohio and it’s because of Angela Davis I’ve made it this far 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹LUV U🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷🌷
Excellent thanks.
The link says, permission not granted
Where can I watch the full.
hell yes. HELL YES.
Profound truth communicated by a brilliant human being
Thank u Queen. ✊🏾
A queen; my queen
Angela Davis, Mayflower descendant and a descendant of Slave Owners.😂😂. Karma.
As an immigrant woman here in the United States with Indigenous background, I didn't know of how powerful Indigenous women were in Latin America, I grew up reading alot of Black American feminist writings which inspired me. It's been awesome to read global social movements led by Indigenous and Black women.
Amen Sister that's why I take the manslaining with a grain of salt. They don't know and only have a cheer up speech but no actual doings.
Right on! 🌙💜☮️
wow Angela Davis eres lo mejor
Angela Davis ✊🏾
Super 👌🏻 thanks for sharing dear 👌🏻
People-power to the power-people!
*meme of Morgan Freeman** You know she's right
Hey, i just made Portuguese subtitles for this video. Could you please add it?
Thank you so much, I just approved it
Thanks for doing that! 😁
AfroMarxist I will happily create Spanish subtitles if needed.
@@ieatgremlins thank you
Awesome!
I descend from poor and working class women of color. Revolutionary hope presides precisely by those women who have been abandoned....poor women, black women, Muslim women, trans women. We stand up against racism. We do not wish to be included in racist society. We do not wish to be assimilated into a hetero, patriarchal, misogynistic society. Revolution upsets class based, gender based, and race based.
Quit making excuses for your sorry life. By the way…. Angela Davis, Mayflower descendant and a descendant of Slave Owners.😂😂. Karma.
This is a really good point and I didn’t really think about it like this. Even I as someone who would label myself as a “feminist” because ppl have called me that but the umbrella of feminism doesn’t cover everyone. If you a tree close to the ceiling the it’s easier for you and so it’s really about bring up those at the bottom.
Angela Davis is like that one pro-black family member who has a lot of war stories but still teaches the value of being black.
Prophetic, revolutionary, Black Intellectuals have such a broad yet cutting critique of power and a wholesome, palpable love for people..
This is America’s most important intellectual tradition if we ever hope to ascend from our White Supremacist origins and cast off the shackles of consumerism, militarism, and mass poverty.
✊🏿✊🏾✊🏼 Solidarity to all people across the world being sacrificed at the whims of the powerful.
Fallow her and I am sure that will be your achievement Watch "Cuba 1958: Myths and Lies" on UA-cam
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Wow👌🏿. I have much to learn🤔
She is so well spoken
It’s a testament to modern mores that people like Angela Davis are still alive.
Most people like Angela Davis are not alive, moreover they were murdered by the state.
Things gotten worse, not better.
Here for it
straight facts. finding that classism and capitalism is as strong if not a stronger oppressor that feeds on racism, xenophobia, homophobia and any other form of hate and discrimination. Feminism acts like it’s the great equalizer and destroyer of sexism but it’s not. Greatly illustrated by the fact that i don’t celebrate the anniversary of a woman’s right to vote in 1920. Because that wasn’t my battle. it wasn’t a woman’s battle. it was for the affluent white women to rise in rank w affluent white men
I find all the cheering and whooping from the audience so off-putting. As a speaker, it’s more important to be heard, than agreed with or applauded.
That's part of African American culture. It's not specific to Angela Davis.
It’s supportive
Sounds about white
I love this. I consider myself a feminist but not a toxic feminist. I want equality for everyone and you can never have equality without equity. Equity has to come first because equity puts power in the hands of marginalized communities to fight for social equality.
Equity is racism against White people. By the way…. Angela Davis, Mayflower descendant and a descendant of Slave Owners.😂😂. Karma.
This is so powerful
Shes the embodiment of critical theory ❤❤❤❤
Is that a good thing?
Forward this to a TERF near you!
What’s a terf?
Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist
@11STARFIRE because 4:51
I was asked if I was a feminist recently. I am a white male. Instead of giving a simple “yes” I said that I am unsure what it would even mean to say I was a feminist as I felt it an almost platitudinous to simply state that I believe in women’s right therefore I was a feminist. I was scolded by the women in my presence who took it as a personal insult that I couldn’t simply say “yes I am a feminist” and be done with it. I felt horrible and questioned whether there was some latent sexism that I harbored that caused me to respond in that way but after reading and hearing things similar to this it has validated my concern to simply comply to a simple narrative that treats every issue from a position of simply men and women. Unfortunately, I know a lot of men that are very confident in their declaration of being feminists solely based on the simple idea that men and women are equal but who in practice are extremely sexist in their conduct.
Oh my, this good shit.
How can you be a feminist and overlook the struggles of muslin women in say saudi arabia or iran?
...genital mutilation of African girls.
Louis Hob There are feminists who are critical of those practices. Where have you been? Don’t confuse someone like Hillary Clinton or other neo-liberals with actual feminists.
Royal Satan “in the west” - in the USA. Most western countries leave their babies bodies alone.
Feminism is about tearing down Western Civilization. It is part of Critical Theory. It is not for attacking Islam. Feminism is for placing the family under State ownership or control. No more head of the household. Feminists are taught they don’t need a man.
@@timberrr1126 lol
To many right wing in the comments
You nigga!!
Thank God
Would you like to Chancen those?
Sie will nicht
inkludiert sein, sie will dass Männer ausgeschlossen werden.
This is powerful
This couldn’t have come at a better timing
We need more woc voices. period. 🔥🔥🔥 I also love that she is outspokenly NOT a TERF
I love her so much
extremly relevant ty algorithm
Yes! Yes! yes!
She's talking about Karen Feminism. Karenism if you will.
There is no such thing as Feminism as a movement. It's a fashion accessory.