We charge a solid price per foot charge for most homes. With my 30 years of experience I would say major differences in price would be the type of gutter hanger required. Other things that may cost extra would be rotted wood or an existing gutter guard system that will take extra time to remove. Other things may come up in the process of the installation unbeknown at the time of the estimate. 6 inch gutters are not recommended for most residential homes that were designed for 5 inch gutters. some companies are fearing homeowners into larger gutters when a simple increase in the size of the downspout is all that's needed Experience Matters.
Great comment. Obviously from experience. What makes the determination of 5" 6" or 7" and what is the upgrade of downspout size to handle more water? TIA
I've been hanging gutters for 35 years and I can walk up to a house and take a look at it and give a price per foot for the house.... it's not that sophisticated and you don't need to have a master's degree to figure it out. Give the people a price ..hang the gutter ...make your money... It's that simple
You should have shown like 5 pictures of 5 different homes you have done and what was the overall price for each of those homes to give your viewers a visual estimate. One story small home, two story, long ranch homes, average homes etc..
There needs to be more gutter companies like you and I.. I’m a gutter contractor and I agree.. There are too many “idiots” with a truck and gutter trailer that think it’s best to “low ball” every job or have a flat rate to make money and not think about the industry as a whole and be and sell your company as skilled trade or professional..
I have a 72 ft mobile home with standard pitch roof evenly from 1 end to other.on each end, the roof extends past the trailer 1 ft so while its a 72ft trailer, the roof is 74ft. Im trying to get a range, in 2021, of cost to at least know what needs to be saved. Im only needing gutters and not down spouts as I will be installing a rain catch system on each end myself. I figured at minimum 1000$ but your input would help tremendously and be very appreciated. Im in Kentucky
does a complete gutter replacement require me to completely redo my roof? because everytime i have a contractor come to my house they talk more abt replaccing my shingles than my gutters.
I have yet to hear anyone discuss material thickness or gauge of the gutter material used. Don't gutters come in at least 2 thicknesses? Or is that something installers prefer to not disclose?
You are SO correct / there are 2 thickness / I do not like the thin material / it's junk to me / I like my install to stay up for my life time / Great comment in bringing this up / most of the publis has NO IDEA / there is thick and thin material
0.027” and 0.032” 0.027” is the cheap stuff already formed at Lowe’s and Home Depot. 0.032” is what comes in coil and must be made with a gutter machine. Always use the stronger kind or you’ll have Pepsi can strength aluminum
a properly installed 5in gutter will carry as much water as a 6in. esp if a leaf protection is used such as shur flow or leaf guard because you are no longer moving debris just water. the biggest thing is downspout size! 2x3 are just to small in the elbows going with a 3x4 will allow most debris to flush out. 2x3 is old tech. as well as hand made miters which leak after one season. miter boxes are the way to go as they are less labor to install and take half the time to install. just my thoughts as a gutter company owner and installer.
Danny Hamby There are some homes that require 6” gutters Multiple elevation homes with steep pitch roofs usually require larger gutters and if your a draining upper elevation to lower elevations you want to make sure that the house look ascetically
"Leaf protection" doesn't work!! And when they fail---oooh what an expense! You gotta take off the so-called leaf protection, clean out the gutters, and then re-install the lousy leaf protection system to the house. The reason God gave you two hands was to hold a 5 gallon bucket in one while you scoop out the leaves from the gutter and deposit them in the bucket with the other. More money has been made by leaf protection salesman than by snake oil salesman.
Some needless negative comments from armchair critics. These guys are trying to make a helpful video. Where's your video? Or is your expertise in "complaining and criticizing"??? How about just giving "constructive" criticism. That would work better.
Being the lowest price is not always the best place to be. Most people automatically discard the lowest and highest quote. Being in the middle to higher on your quote and selling your companies quality and reputation will increase your profits and your client base. Always remember you are in the people business not the gutter business. This is true for all. Those who do not comprehend this will always be struggling and rarely will they know why. The lowest bid can never be a successful business model because you will not be in business.
Hello I personally charge $3.50 for 5" & $4.50 for 6". I work as a subcontractor for a company, now a question for the bothers, are my prices decent for the costumes ? I live in NOVA.
Great Question! Without trying to be too long winded, the short answer is no. You cannot build a client facing gutter business at subcontractor pricing. As a subcontractor you are saving money by not having to acquire the client yourself. The person/ company subbing to you has done all the heavy lifting of advertising, meeting with the client... convincing them they are the best fit... Now all you have to do is show up and do a good job(I'm over simplifying). The contractor however is going to mark up your pricing by about 50% in most cases. So if you are charging them $4, they will turn around and charge the client $8. If you are planning on targeting homeowners that price will not be enough to cover the overhead of getting in front of homeowners and converting them to clients. It costs a great deal to advertise, have a customer call you, drive out to their house and sell the job, install the job... Without knowing much about your business goals/ overhead or area you service, my educated guess is that you should be somewhere around 6 & 7 dollars per foot for homeowners.
Just got a quote (upstate NY) from a company. Project is a, single story dwelling, 5 outside 1 inside corner, 200 ft of gutter, 4 downspouts (12 ft long ) $2,870 for 5" aluminum seamless gutter no leaf guard etc. Still shopping for other bids.
Without seeing your job that price appears to be in the ballpark. (I would consider 6" gutters for that much gutter and 4 leaders). It's definitely a fair price for a reputable company that has workman's comp and all the other values a good business should have.
Sorry you find it confusing. We find it hard to just say a "per foot" price in a video that will be viewed for years to come, especially considering the variables that go into each job. I also don't want to commoditize our business where people just think it's about the per foot price. If it were that simple we would just sell over the phone.
Its possible that various contractors would know what the norm is for the price per foot. After all, they have to know these things when they prepare written estimates to customers. I would expect this cost per foot to increase over time with the increase of inflation.
11 months ago @ Roger Smith has said this about the cost per foot, " Roger Smith 11 months ago Sorry but gutter prices are dictated by what the insurance company will pay for replacement, here in the Oklahoma Panhandle that price is just under $5.00 per foot, a downspout is considered 10 feet. Unless a customer has a referral to work with it is always a good idea for the customer to seek at least 3 proposals to help weed out the crooks (thieves). However, what may seem like a great deal for a rich customer but may not work for the poor.
Its because these guys are like car salesmen trying to jack up prices for cheap aluminum metal gutters & act like they are selling you are car absolute joke.....
@@BurtBowers Do you own a Rain Gutter business, Burt, or are you one of those know-it-alls that can judge a situation on little or no information? I'm going to put my chips on "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about." This guy happens to KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I can tell by the way he expresses himself that he's not your typical "hammer monkey". You know, it takes more than a rain gutter machine and some coil and parts to install, service, and run a rain gutter business. Any construction business for that matter. If you have any chance of staying in business you better know your numbers and price accordingly. It's these low price bottom feeders who have no idea how to run a business that ruins it for good, honest contractors. And then there are people like you that accuse people that are trying to make a better product and do a superior job, of being like dishonest car salesmen because they don't know much and think people are out to screw them. Try researching something before you shoot your mouth off.
When you see a price like that you have to wonder what corners they are cutting. It may not necessarily be a bad gutter install, but you can't afford to do gutters at that price and pay your installers on the books while also covering them by workman's compensation.
To simplify, Roofing Dog in Champaign, Illinois charges $10 per foot, and Rich's Seamless Gutters near the same city charges $4.25 per foot. (Which I've told Rich is toooo low!!!!)
Adam, it sounds like Rich's Gutters may not carry workers comp / or any type of Ins. / or maybe doing Gutters as a 2nd job / thay are cutting corners some where / and here is some news not to many know / there are a few companys that can and will buy gutter coils out the back door for cash and NOT pay the full price
Sir, you sound like a car salesman & making this sound like you are selling a car we are talking about aluminum gutters not complicated should not be expensive talking gutters sir STOP MAKING THIS SOUND COMPLICATED SIR!!!....
Sorry for any complication. This video is from 2015 and now that it's 2019 talking about gutter pricing is so much easier. As of November 2019 prices range from $5.00pf - $13.00pf nationally. Hopefully that clears things up for you :)
hi brorhers, nice video and your answers to the comments are awesome. I'm trying to switch my current carrier, I been working on manufacturing for 15 years now I feel the need of being outdoors and obviously doing my own thing. I don't know nothing about gutters but watching at your videos now I'm wondering where to start there's any classes available or should I just go to and work with somebody to learn the job? What would you recommend? Thank you and keep it up with the work guys👍😁
Hey Roy, thanks for commenting. I don't know of any classes or training available other than working for a company or buying a brothers franchise. There are plenty of classes, seminars and books for people in the trades however. Here are a few of my thoughts though: The gutter business can be very rewarding at a variety of different business models. I know some owner/operators that make great money, but spend all their time on a truck. This is a business model that is very attractive to someone who wants to work outside and own their business, and could be the right decision for you. Where it becomes challenging is as the owner/operator gets older or wants to have more time the entire business depends on him. I believe everyone that starts a business eventually wants both money and time. We are all willing to sacrifice both in the beginning to get things going, but many of us end up short on either time, money or both in this game. The only way to get both time and money I have found is to build a bigger company that can run without you wearing all the hats. That last sentence took us the better part of a decade to figure out and build and by no means is easy especially when trying to figure out on your own. Hopefully I answered your questions and I wish you the very best in your pursuit for a fulfilling career!
Brothers that just do Gutters thank you for your help it really means a lot to me and I would like to know more about the franchise that you guys offer I'm going to look on your website contact you personally thank you very much and God bless you guys
Sorry but gutter prices are dictated by what the insurance company will pay for replacement, here in the Oklahoma Panhandle that price is just under $5.00 per foot, a downspout is considered 10 feet. Unless a customer has a referral to work with it is always a good idea for the customer to seek at least 3 proposals to help weed out the crooks (thieves). However, what may seem like a great deal for a rich customer but may not work for the poor.
If you are in business, who else do you pass costs along to other than the customer? However, if you are in business you should only pass along costs that benefit the client. We have surveyed thousands of clients throughout the years and they all tell us what they want, by telling us what they appreciate, as well as the questions they ask. When they say, "you're the only one that answered the phone," "You're the only one that offered a bigger gutter," "Can I have a copy of your insurance?..." Clients love to talk to someone when they call, so that costs us money to have someone answer that phone and eventually an office where these people work. When they need a bigger gutter to solve their water volume issue, we have to purchase another machine, when they ask for our insurance, we actually have to have it... It's not just about the cost of material. It's about the clients experience, and taking personal responsibility to provide them with the best solution for their needs . It costs money to run an actual business, attract and retain good employees, offer them benefits and keep them safe and insured... It costs money to actually provide clients the level of service and quality they desire and deserve. The lower someones price, the more of these items they simply cannot afford to offer.
Ryan Parsons simple math [y(6x6)]/[y(5x5)]=36y/25y = 36/25 = 1.44, the gutters are nearly square with the exception of the small loss (value ‘y’ in equation) due to the ‘k’ side which is the approximately same percentage loss from square from both a 5” and 6” gutter. You can also look it up or run a test with 1ft gutter lengths. Math works.
Au contraire, my dear Lawrence. A one foot linear section of 5" gutter will hold 1.2 gallons of water, while a 6" section will hold 2 gallons per linear foot. That's 60% more volume. Your simple calculation is way off. The dimensions of a 5" gutter are 5" wide at the top, 3.82 inches high on the back, and only 3.25 inches wide at the bottom channel. How you come up with it being nearly square is beyond me. Maybe you need a new pair of glasses.
@@rjw261984 lol I worked in constitution for 35 yrs. and build my own cars .. its to easy to put rain gutters on for me .. now there is some people that should never do it let alone drive a car
Hey Juan, why you hating? Make your own video with your price list if you don't like mine. But since you commented here's my response: When making a UA-cam video we have to assume that people are going to stumble upon it for years to come, so giving a flat per foot price does not make sense for this reason alone. We also change our pricing throughout the year depending on seasonality and other factors and have multiple locations all charging different prices in different parts of the country. We actually use a profit margin calculator to ensure we make the same gross profit on every job, whether a gutter cleaning or copper installation. Per foot pricing does not scale well. You wouldn't charge the same per foot price on a condo complex as you would on a 3,000sq foot house would you? Per foot pricing only works if you do the same type of house, day in and day out. We don't. Doesn't a job that requires a 40' ladder, roof straps and is located far away from your shop take longer to do? Why would you charge the same price as the job that is new construction and next to your shop, 10' off the ground? So with all the variables mentioned and not mentioned we felt it was better to give a range.
Brothers that just do Gutters I’m about to expand my company to 60 cities since my backing is business, marketing, sales, etc. and I placed third in door to door comp. ready to compete?
Brothers that just do Gutters you charge a different rate depending on the time of year? Wow! That would not fly here in Phoenix. I couldn't imagine trying to explain to my customers why we charge differently throughout the year. If you are charging more when you are slow then that falls on the shoulders of the people responsible for bringing working in.
I am able to give an exact price for every job. Unless an unforseen circumstance arrises. Usually that means the person doing the estimate made a mistake and are trying to pass the cost off.
Dude, you are a buffoon. You wouldn't know the first thing about pricing a gutter job, but there you go, pretending like you know it all. Let me ask you a question. Are YOU a business owner? Didn't think so. You and AOC would get a long great because y'all are both clueless when it comes to creating jobs and putting people to work.
A lot of sophisticated calculations. Did you guys struggle to pass 3rd grade? Your explaining yourself out of jobs not into jobs. Please delete this video.
I've seen the quality of installations where the installers are paid per foot. Typically using the lightest weight gutter, cheapest hangers and spacing them out every 4 - 6'. Paying installers per foot is a recipe for poor workmanship and rushed jobs. When you pay installers on the books, overtime, workmans compensation, benefits... there is no way you can do it for $3.00 per foot.
Not down here, you do shitty work you don't have a job. I make 52000 a year on .40 a ft and work on million dollar homes. Hangers 2' .032 aluminum same shit y'all install I'm sure
We charge a solid price per foot charge for most homes. With my 30 years of experience I would say major differences in price would be the type of gutter hanger required. Other things that may cost extra would be rotted wood or an existing gutter guard system that will take extra time to remove.
Other things may come up in the process of the installation unbeknown at the time of the estimate.
6 inch gutters are not recommended for most residential homes that were designed for 5 inch gutters.
some companies are fearing homeowners into larger gutters when a simple increase in the size of the downspout is all that's needed
Experience Matters.
Great comment. Obviously from experience. What makes the determination of 5" 6" or 7" and what is the upgrade of downspout size to handle more water? TIA
I've been hanging gutters for 35 years and I can walk up to a house and take a look at it and give a price per foot for the house.... it's not that sophisticated and you don't need to have a master's degree to figure it out.
Give the people a price ..hang the gutter ...make your money... It's that simple
i need to hire you.
Good info. Thanks. Now I know why to get 6 inch gutters. 👍
Glad to help!
You should have shown like 5 pictures of 5 different homes you have done and what was the overall price for each of those homes to give your viewers a visual estimate. One story small home, two story, long ranch homes, average homes etc..
That's a great idea. I think it's time for me to make a new video. Thanks!
There needs to be more gutter companies like you and I.. I’m a gutter contractor and I agree.. There are too many “idiots” with a truck and gutter trailer that think it’s best to “low ball” every job or have a flat rate to make money and not think about the industry as a whole and be and sell your company as skilled trade or professional..
Great comment / the "low ball" guys ARE idiots / Rock
I have a 72 ft mobile home with standard pitch roof evenly from 1 end to other.on each end, the roof extends past the trailer 1 ft so while its a 72ft trailer, the roof is 74ft.
Im trying to get a range, in 2021, of cost to at least know what needs to be saved.
Im only needing gutters and not down spouts as I will be installing a rain catch system on each end myself.
I figured at minimum 1000$ but your input would help tremendously and be very appreciated.
Im in Kentucky
145' ..... $6 per ft.... $870
does a complete gutter replacement require me to completely redo my roof? because everytime i have a contractor come to my house they talk more abt replaccing my shingles than my gutters.
What do you think of pvc fascia vs. wood fascia wrapped in metal behind a new gutter installation
You guys are so crazy lol love the video.
I have yet to hear anyone discuss material thickness or gauge of the gutter material used. Don't gutters come in at least 2 thicknesses? Or is that something installers prefer to not disclose?
You are SO correct / there are 2 thickness / I do not like the thin material / it's junk to me / I like my install to stay up for my life time / Great comment in bringing this up / most of the publis has NO IDEA / there is thick and thin material
0.027” and 0.032”
0.027” is the cheap stuff already formed at Lowe’s and Home Depot.
0.032” is what comes in coil and must be made with a gutter machine. Always use the stronger kind or you’ll have Pepsi can strength aluminum
Whats the pitch of the roof have to do with price?
Great video. That is something we get a lot of call on also.
a properly installed 5in gutter will carry as much water as a 6in. esp if a leaf protection is used such as shur flow or leaf guard because you are no longer moving debris just water. the biggest thing is downspout size! 2x3 are just to small in the elbows going with a 3x4 will allow most debris to flush out. 2x3 is old tech. as well as hand made miters which leak after one season. miter boxes are the way to go as they are less labor to install and take half the time to install. just my thoughts as a gutter company owner and installer.
Danny Hamby There are some homes that require 6” gutters Multiple elevation homes with steep pitch roofs usually require larger gutters and if your a draining upper elevation to lower elevations you want to make sure that the house look ascetically
Don't know where you live but a tile roof with a 3 inch or over. Hang needs 6 inch 5 inch on comp only lol
"Leaf protection" doesn't work!! And when they fail---oooh what an expense!
You gotta take off the so-called leaf protection, clean out the gutters, and then re-install the lousy leaf protection system to the house.
The reason God gave you two hands was to hold a 5 gallon bucket in one while you scoop out the leaves from the gutter and deposit them in the bucket with the other.
More money has been made by leaf protection salesman than by snake oil salesman.
Some needless negative comments from armchair critics. These guys are trying to make a helpful video. Where's your video? Or is your expertise in "complaining and criticizing"??? How about just giving "constructive" criticism. That would work better.
I know y’all didn’t do the roof but I think that’s the wrong ridge cap
I charge 9.50 a foot in Alaska. That's .50-1.00 less than all competitors.
How much are you getting your material at because we are down in the south doing about 4 to 7
Being the lowest price is not always the best place to be. Most people automatically discard the lowest and highest quote.
Being in the middle to higher on your quote and selling your companies quality and reputation will increase your profits and your client base.
Always remember you are in the people business not the gutter business. This is true for all. Those who do not comprehend this will always be struggling and rarely will they know why. The lowest bid can never be a successful business model because you will not be in business.
Hello I personally charge $3.50 for 5" & $4.50 for 6". I work as a subcontractor for a company, now a question for the bothers, are my prices decent for the costumes ? I live in NOVA.
Great Question! Without trying to be too long winded, the short answer is no. You cannot build a client facing gutter business at subcontractor pricing. As a subcontractor you are saving money by not having to acquire the client yourself. The person/ company subbing to you has done all the heavy lifting of advertising, meeting with the client... convincing them they are the best fit... Now all you have to do is show up and do a good job(I'm over simplifying). The contractor however is going to mark up your pricing by about 50% in most cases. So if you are charging them $4, they will turn around and charge the client $8. If you are planning on targeting homeowners that price will not be enough to cover the overhead of getting in front of homeowners and converting them to clients. It costs a great deal to advertise, have a customer call you, drive out to their house and sell the job, install the job... Without knowing much about your business goals/ overhead or area you service, my educated guess is that you should be somewhere around 6 & 7 dollars per foot for homeowners.
@@TheBrothersThatJustDoGutters I just put a bid in at 6 dollars a foot and was told that her contractor said I over priced her!
@@caseymcdowell188 so let the contractor do the job. Move on to the next customer that is willing to pay for your experience and professionalism.
Just got a quote (upstate NY) from a company. Project is a, single story dwelling, 5 outside 1 inside corner, 200 ft of gutter, 4 downspouts (12 ft long ) $2,870 for 5" aluminum seamless gutter no leaf guard etc. Still shopping for other bids.
Without seeing your job that price appears to be in the ballpark. (I would consider 6" gutters for that much gutter and 4 leaders). It's definitely a fair price for a reputable company that has workman's comp and all the other values a good business should have.
BoggWeasel that’s 1400 in Georgia
That's too much. In Texas we have 196ft of gutter at 5" and we were quoted $1553.00
What the bit just labor ?
Or labor and material included ?
These guys a basically trying to make it confusing as possible.
Sorry you find it confusing. We find it hard to just say a "per foot" price in a video that will be viewed for years to come, especially considering the variables that go into each job. I also don't want to commoditize our business where people just think it's about the per foot price. If it were that simple we would just sell over the phone.
Its possible that various contractors would know what the norm is for the price per foot. After all, they have to know these things when they prepare written estimates to customers. I would expect this cost per foot to increase over time with the increase of inflation.
11 months ago @ Roger Smith has said this about the cost per foot, "
Roger Smith
11 months ago
Sorry but gutter prices are dictated by what the insurance company will pay for replacement, here in the Oklahoma Panhandle that price is just under $5.00 per foot, a downspout is considered 10 feet. Unless a customer has a referral to work with it is always a good idea for the customer to seek at least 3 proposals to help weed out the crooks (thieves). However, what may seem like a great deal for a rich customer but may not work for the poor.
Its because these guys are like car salesmen trying to jack up prices for cheap aluminum metal gutters & act like they are selling you are car absolute joke.....
@@BurtBowers Do you own a Rain Gutter business, Burt, or are you one of those know-it-alls that can judge a situation on little or no information?
I'm going to put my chips on "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about." This guy happens to KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I can tell by the way he expresses himself that he's not your typical "hammer monkey". You know, it takes more than a rain gutter machine and some coil and parts to install, service, and run a rain gutter business. Any construction business for that matter. If you have any chance of staying in business you better know your numbers and price accordingly. It's these low price bottom feeders who have no idea how to run a business that ruins it for good, honest contractors. And then there are people like you that accuse people that are trying to make a better product and do a superior job, of being like dishonest car salesmen because they don't know much and think people are out to screw them. Try researching something before you shoot your mouth off.
Why is there a 6" gutter on the roof behind this guy in the video?....I'm surprised there's not snow guards on the roof too!
Just paid $750.00 for 200' of 5" continous gutter with all hangers, 8 downspouts, all elbows, drops, 8 endcaps. Hope I got a good deal.
That's giving it away. There must be a lot of competition in your area.
When you see a price like that you have to wonder what corners they are cutting. It may not necessarily be a bad gutter install, but you can't afford to do gutters at that price and pay your installers on the books while also covering them by workman's compensation.
kirby lane Amish just did 86 ft for 600 4 down spouts , 2 1 story 2 2 story.
kirby lane that's a steal for shitty work
You got good deal!
lol i got a quote from this guys and it was overprice
To simplify, Roofing Dog in Champaign, Illinois charges $10 per foot, and Rich's Seamless Gutters near the same city charges $4.25 per foot. (Which I've told Rich is toooo low!!!!)
A down spout on a one story home is usually 12-13 feet and is charged the same per foot as the actual gutter.
Adam, it sounds like Rich's Gutters may not carry workers comp / or any type of Ins. / or maybe doing Gutters as a 2nd job / thay are cutting corners some where / and here is some news not to many know / there are a few companys that can and will buy gutter coils out the back door for cash and NOT pay the full price
Sir, you sound like a car salesman & making this sound like you are selling a car we are talking about aluminum gutters not complicated should not be expensive talking gutters sir STOP MAKING THIS SOUND COMPLICATED SIR!!!....
Sorry for any complication. This video is from 2015 and now that it's 2019 talking about gutter pricing is so much easier. As of November 2019 prices range from $5.00pf - $13.00pf nationally. Hopefully that clears things up for you :)
hi brorhers, nice video and your answers to the comments are awesome.
I'm trying to switch my current carrier, I been working on manufacturing for 15 years now I feel the need of being outdoors and obviously doing my own thing. I don't know nothing about gutters but watching at your videos now I'm wondering where to start there's any classes available or should I just go to and work with somebody to learn the job?
What would you recommend?
Thank you and keep it up with the work guys👍😁
Hey Roy, thanks for commenting. I don't know of any classes or training available other than working for a company or buying a brothers franchise. There are plenty of classes, seminars and books for people in the trades however.
Here are a few of my thoughts though: The gutter business can be very rewarding at a variety of different business models. I know some owner/operators that make great money, but spend all their time on a truck. This is a business model that is very attractive to someone who wants to work outside and own their business, and could be the right decision for you. Where it becomes challenging is as the owner/operator gets older or wants to have more time the entire business depends on him. I believe everyone that starts a business eventually wants both money and time. We are all willing to sacrifice both in the beginning to get things going, but many of us end up short on either time, money or both in this game. The only way to get both time and money I have found is to build a bigger company that can run without you wearing all the hats. That last sentence took us the better part of a decade to figure out and build and by no means is easy especially when trying to figure out on your own. Hopefully I answered your questions and I wish you the very best in your pursuit for a fulfilling career!
Brothers that just do Gutters thank you for your help it really means a lot to me and I would like to know more about the franchise that you guys offer I'm going to look on your website contact you personally thank you very much and God bless you guys
Hey Roy, I look forward to hearing from you! Here's the link to our contact page: www.brothersfranchise.com/contact-us/
Brothers that just do Gutters Awesone Thank you
Exactly!!
It’s important for a customer to know what their budget is yet we don’t even know what our cost per foot is. What a rip.
Good video. Keep up the great work brothers! 👍👍
Sorry but gutter prices are dictated by what the insurance company will pay for replacement, here in the Oklahoma Panhandle that price is just under $5.00 per foot, a downspout is considered 10 feet. Unless a customer has a referral to work with it is always a good idea for the customer to seek at least 3 proposals to help weed out the crooks (thieves). However, what may seem like a great deal for a rich customer but may not work for the poor.
Thank You
Sounds like you pass the cost onto the customer.
If you are in business, who else do you pass costs along to other than the customer? However, if you are in business you should only pass along costs that benefit the client. We have surveyed thousands of clients throughout the years and they all tell us what they want, by telling us what they appreciate, as well as the questions they ask. When they say, "you're the only one that answered the phone," "You're the only one that offered a bigger gutter," "Can I have a copy of your insurance?..."
Clients love to talk to someone when they call, so that costs us money to have someone answer that phone and eventually an office where these people work. When they need a bigger gutter to solve their water volume issue, we have to purchase another machine, when they ask for our insurance, we actually have to have it... It's not just about the cost of material. It's about the clients experience, and taking personal responsibility to provide them with the best solution for their needs . It costs money to run an actual business, attract and retain good employees, offer them benefits and keep them safe and insured... It costs money to actually provide clients the level of service and quality they desire and deserve. The lower someones price, the more of these items they simply cannot afford to offer.
Really...What what your first clue?
Do you sell snake oil?
Check your facts. A 6” gutter is only about 40% more volume than a 5” gutter ... not twice.
Thanks for the fact check. I'm sincerely asking if you have any kind of data sheet on that. Would be super helpful. Thanks!
Ryan Parsons simple math [y(6x6)]/[y(5x5)]=36y/25y = 36/25 = 1.44, the gutters are nearly square with the exception of the small loss (value ‘y’ in equation) due to the ‘k’ side which is the approximately same percentage loss from square from both a 5” and 6” gutter. You can also look it up or run a test with 1ft gutter lengths. Math works.
@@lawrencenovak5203 Thanks so much!
Au contraire, my dear Lawrence. A one foot linear section of 5" gutter will hold 1.2 gallons of water, while a 6" section will hold 2 gallons per linear foot. That's 60% more volume. Your simple calculation is way off. The dimensions of a 5" gutter are 5" wide at the top, 3.82 inches high on the back, and only 3.25 inches wide at the bottom channel. How you come up with it being nearly square is beyond me. Maybe you need a new pair of glasses.
@@texasskyliner704 60% is more realistic than twice that this guy is saying
I own Attaboy Guttering & Metal roofing from warsaw mo.
Do you teach others how to get in the business?
Do you do estimates in Pennsylvania?
they both gave me a headache
Do you need a masters degree to figure out the sophisticated calculations?
money talks and bullshit walks ..just remember that..do it yourself if you can. 5'' is all you need
I do $6 a foot in Tampa for 6” seamless
just roll me out a 33 FT a 18 FT and a 12 FT . of K-type three down spouts and a LT hand inside corner and 6 end caps and I'll install it my self
Ive heard many customers say the same thing just to have them call soon after to have it installed correctly.
@@rjw261984 lol I worked in constitution for 35 yrs. and build my own cars .. its to easy to put rain gutters on for me .. now there is some people that should never do it let alone drive a car
@@bobd9911 Sure thing Bob.
$5 to $10 a foot whats he smokeing
I do 6in seamless for 7$
Bull S...
Geez, souless used car salesmen.
Dude dont play with yourself. We can give people and exact estimate. Dont give that 'the average roof isn't an average roof ' crap.
Hey Juan, why you hating? Make your own video with your price list if you don't like mine. But since you commented here's my response: When making a UA-cam video we have to assume that people are going to stumble upon it for years to come, so giving a flat per foot price does not make sense for this reason alone. We also change our pricing throughout the year depending on seasonality and other factors and have multiple locations all charging different prices in different parts of the country. We actually use a profit margin calculator to ensure we make the same gross profit on every job, whether a gutter cleaning or copper installation. Per foot pricing does not scale well. You wouldn't charge the same per foot price on a condo complex as you would on a 3,000sq foot house would you? Per foot pricing only works if you do the same type of house, day in and day out. We don't. Doesn't a job that requires a 40' ladder, roof straps and is located far away from your shop take longer to do? Why would you charge the same price as the job that is new construction and next to your shop, 10' off the ground? So with all the variables mentioned and not mentioned we felt it was better to give a range.
Juan Robert right bro we charge by the ft even still
Brothers that just do Gutters I’m about to expand my company to 60 cities since my backing is business, marketing, sales, etc. and I placed third in door to door comp. ready to compete?
Brothers that just do Gutters you charge a different rate depending on the time of year? Wow! That would not fly here in Phoenix. I couldn't imagine trying to explain to my customers why we charge differently throughout the year. If you are charging more when you are slow then that falls on the shoulders of the people responsible for bringing working in.
I am able to give an exact price for every job. Unless an unforseen circumstance arrises. Usually that means the person doing the estimate made a mistake and are trying to pass the cost off.
“There is a lot of sophisticated calculations that go into it” ???? Yeah man gutters are like really complicated.
lolololol
Dude, you are a buffoon. You wouldn't know the first thing about pricing a gutter job, but there you go, pretending like you know it all. Let me ask you a question. Are YOU a business owner? Didn't think so. You and AOC would get a long great because y'all are both clueless when it comes to creating jobs and putting people to work.
guy in the black shirt comes off as someone who isn't trustworthy, dude's a swindler.
A lot of sophisticated calculations. Did you guys struggle to pass 3rd grade? Your explaining yourself out of jobs not into jobs. Please delete this video.
Saying a whole lot of nothing
5-10 a foot, lol y'all robbing MFS. 3-5 in NC, that's paying installer .40 a foot.
We don't pay installers by the foot but hourly, and these prices are NY based.
I've seen the quality of installations where the installers are paid per foot. Typically using the lightest weight gutter, cheapest hangers and spacing them out every 4 - 6'. Paying installers per foot is a recipe for poor workmanship and rushed jobs. When you pay installers on the books, overtime, workmans compensation, benefits... there is no way you can do it for $3.00 per foot.
Not down here, you do shitty work you don't have a job. I make 52000 a year on .40 a ft and work on million dollar homes. Hangers 2' .032 aluminum same shit y'all install I'm sure
We also fall in a sub division and do ten new homes side by side. 1000 ft a day between two men.
10$ a ft though I wish we could do that, y'all up north I hope y'all use thicker material for winter's sake
JUST DO IT YOURSELF!!!!!