1:53 Hurrem: “I am not sinless, nobody is. I did what I had to do, just like you. Don’t look for innocence under this roof, Suleiman, because those who have power and those who want power are never innocent.” REPLAY FACTS, QUEEN! 👏🏼👑🔥
Lmao she answered that with the perfect clap back. “Bro of course I did it. But I’m your shadow. YOU wanted it, and it’s not like any of us is innocent. Don’t blame me bro, this is your cross just as much as it is mine”
1:13 Hurrem slapped facts in his face: “And I, who am I, Suleiman? I am your shadow on Earth. Whatever you want, I want it too.” After these words notice Cameraman’s 🎥 excellent work at 1:40 showing the Throne, because that’s what Suleiman wanted-to keep the Throne and he would never surrender it to anyone before his death, neither to his sons-even to Mehmed, nor to someone else! 🔥🔥
@@priyankatanwar9999 exactly he had no problem with deciding next sultan but he just wanter someone to remain loyal to him and take throne after his natural death or death in battle and not like kill him to take the throne.
@priyankatanwar9999 I don't think a lot of Mustafa/Ibrahim supporters get. Their laws, traditions, and religion allowed this kind of environment. Sultan Suleiman himself was an oddball. He was one of the first to allow his Valide to use the Sultan title as no one who didn't have the dynasty blood could do so. Then he allowed his wife to do so, creatung a new title for her. Freeing her even. 🤷🏿♀️ The trades and laws he encouraged were supported becaise of this power he kept and wielded wisely against his enemies. There's no way anyone would be sshowing off this pride if he wasn't a good leader. 😂
Hurrem always spoke with facts! Suleiman wanted to put all blame on her, but she shut him down in most powerful way-the Truth! She never denied her guilt, but she made him realize HIS own guilt too. Because at the end of the day- NEITHER of them were fully innocent: neither Suleiman, nor Hurrem, nor Mustafa. ✋🏼🔥
If we admit Suleiman did all that in influence of hurrem It's not true Suleiman was envious of Mustafa He knew if he talk to him Mustafa probably would prove himself right as he was always. It was not hurrem who ordered to execute him It was Suleiman himself. Who remaind it as Mustafa death was hurrem fault only. It was Suleiman who never maitain his family. He act on his own likes and dislikes Hurrem just smarty played
@@azkaeman913 I think he wasn't envious but afraid. He was afraid of what was going to happen if Mustafa would've gotten the throne. All the other princes would've been beheaded (maybe not by him but his mom or even other pashas). Could be that he was mad at him for not stopping the people who called him "the next sultan" which he should have done 'cause it was betrayal not to.
@@azkaeman913 bwahahahahah! Whaaaattt? Suleyiman was Magnificent! Most powerrful sultan! Mustafa was nuthiing! 👉🏼Mustafa lied Suleiman many times, didn’t obey rules, briibed Janiisaries, bought Ships behind his father’s back. His biggest mistake was threattening Hurrem: “There will come time when your life will depend on my single word. I will be merciless towards you. I will crush snake’s (he meant Hurrem) head”. And Mustafa WANTED throne and power. In episode 120 he says: no one will stand on my way to throne. And Atmaca reminds him that this may cause war between him and his brothers. And FYI it’s recorded in history that mustafa had his Tughra made. Turkish historian Murat Bardakçi found and writes about a manuscript notebook belonging to Mustafa, on the first page being Tughra that says “Shah Sultan Mustafa, Khan son of Suleiman, victorious forever.” According the Empire law only Sultan could have Tughra, no Sehzade ever! If a Sehzade made a Tugra the penalty was death! He was definitely not pure and not angel! And he would for fact killl Hurrem and her sons if he became sultan, as other sultans did to their brothers. READ HISTORY! 🤣🤣
@@genesisreyes8621lol 😂 it's never about death of other princes because whatever he does he knew any of them had to kill others ... And selim 😂 he hates beyzait, beyzait hates selim hurrem couldn't even stop then from fighting when suleiman is alive how could she prevent them to take lives if anyone of them gets throne .. suleiman was never afraid for him family... He was afraid for himself he knew that selim would never try to take throne even if Suleiman would 100. .. because he was too weak and coward also times passed suleiman himself isn't that like his youth and Mustafa was not only supported by everyone but he is also capable of throne .. he would lead the empire better than what he is running in those years he was afraid that Mustafa would avenge him for his injustice
His guilt feeling, but not letting him accept it due to his ego , finding excuses to blame it on hurrem. HURREM BEING SMART, SHOWED HIM MIRROR AND SHUT HIS MOUTH ONCE AGAIN.
I am shocked that Hurrem so calmly admitted participation in Padisah’s son’s murder, not fearing that Suleiman would execute her on spot, even if he was the one most guilty. He was very angry, looking for a scapegoat and she literally told him “I did what I had to do, just like you”. 😨 I would probably fall to Suleiman’s feet and die with fear and heart attack lmao.
@@azkaeman913 bwahahahahah! Whaaaattt? Suleyiman was Magnificent! Most powerrful sultan! Mustafa was nuthiing! 👉🏼Mustafa lied Suleiman many times, didn’t obey rules, briibed Janiisaries, bought Ships behind his father’s back. His biggest mistake was threattening Hurrem: “There will come time when your life will depend on my single word. I will be merciless towards you. I will crush snake’s (he meant Hurrem) head”. And Mustafa WANTED throne and power. In episode 120 he says: no one will stand on my way to throne. And Atmaca reminds him that this may cause war between him and his brothers. And FYI it’s recorded in history that mustafa had his Tughra made. Turkish historian Murat Bardakçi found and writes about a manuscript notebook belonging to Mustafa, on the first page being Tughra that says “Shah Sultan Mustafa, Khan son of Suleiman, victorious forever.” According the Empire law only Sultan could have Tughra, no Sehzade ever! If a Sehzade made a Tugra the penalty was death! He was definitely not pure and not angel! And he would for fact killl Hurrem and her sons if he became sultan, as other sultans did to their brothers. READ HISTORY! 🤣🤣
Hurrem is 👑⚡️ Historical Hurrem was not beautiful, but very smart, witty and joyful. That’s why Suleiman fell in love with her and stayed loyal to his love for eternity. Historical sources describe Real Hurrem as “very intelligent, pious and cheerful person, a caring mother, a woman of exceptional manners and a great patron of poor people, arts, poetry.” Venetian ambassador Pietro Bragadin mentions Hurrem as "not beautiful, although highly intelligent, petite, modest and graceful." It’s nice to hear that Suleiman the Magnificent who had hundreds beauties in his palace, chose a woman with brains over passing beauty and stayed loyal to Hurrem even after her death.
Do you expect your enemy to describe your property? That what you get? Why? Because your enemy always want to discredit what you own. Remember it because in this life time no one going to tell you that. It is only me. Remember it until you die. If you have good product don't show to your enemy otherwise you will be zzzz.
Hurrem was beautiful historically. You must remember they always chose concubines who are beautiful. The whole palace was full of beautiful concubines and even the slaves were attractive looking too. Bcz it was Ottoman's tradition they always chose the most attractive, smart slaves and concubines to serve the royal family. It's a part of their luxurious lifestyle. Hurrem had beautiful blue eyes and orange hair. Her hair was praised in whole turkey. She was attractive. But in comparison to Mahidevran she wasn't that beautiful. Mahidevran was the most beautiful woman In suleiman's harem . But generally Hurrem was also very beautiful
How many times has he read Mustafa's letter? Just because he destroys letter doesn't mean he will forget what Mustafa wrote. You can't unread something after you have read it.
Meaning he realized that Mustapha was implicated due to a slander. He felt uneasy and remorseful as he realized he commited a sin . A very big sin that is to execute someone who is not guilty
By burning letter he tried to console himself But invain In Zahit Atcil research he was afraid of his son resemblance to his father. He admitted his fault but his evil was more powerful
The most interesting thing about Hürrem's whole speech is realizing that, right after it, that witch hatun returns at least part of the essence of it right back to her when discussing how one of her sons will kill the other, "One of the princes will be killed on the orders of Sultan Suleiman. [...] If Sultan Suleiman doesn't want it, even leaves would not fall to the ground..."
He is responsible obviously. He is jealous and afraid of her son's popularity. Hurrem's words are harsh and fact at the same time. She is responsible also.
Yeah. It adds to the parallel between Mustafa and Bayezid. And Süleyman has to accept that he is the one person who has the most power to impact events and change what happens.
@@azkaeman913 Mustafa died because of having the perfect setup to rebel whereas Bayezid did so in earnest, yes. But, at least in Suleiman's time, both were considered to have committed treason as "history is written by the victors".
Let's face it, not only is Süleyman the person who gave the order but he's also the person who let these rivalries get to this point. He's the Sultan. He's the person with the most power. Hürrem and Mahidevran were both fighting to protect their children.
After watching this I watched Bitter Lands and her role was Hunkar ' Lady of Cukurova ' she played that role as beautiful as she played Hurrem maybe even better.
The AUDACITY of Suleiman trying to put all blame on Hurrem 😂🤦🏻♀️ Did Hurrem ask him to kill Mustafa? Did she bring the murderers to his tent to strangle his son? When Mustafa was fighting to save his life in the tent, did Hurrem scream to murderers: don’t let him go! Hurry up! Kill him fast?! NOPE! Suleiman did it-he wanted to get rid of Mustafa, because he remembered his father’s Selim l words-that younger lion will get rid of older lion for throne. Suleiman didn’t want to give up throne and killed Mustafa. He also killed Bayazid and his sons 4 years after. He could exile both sons far away, never return them back, but HE decided to kill them. So it’s ON HIM! 🤗
She said it in a way that no other words needed to describe it better. If you didn't want it Suleiman it wouldn't have happened so dont look for innocence under this roof.
Suleyman knows he’s the main reason mustafa died but of course it’s hard to admit it that’s why he’s looking for someone else to blame too since the guilt is killing him. He suspected mustafa many times before killing him and his mere life was a threat to his throne so hurrem’s scheme was just the cherry on top. The fact that he just executed him without investigating or even confronting him is completely his fault and i hope hurrem’s answer made him realize that. Someone had to tell him that if he didn’t want something to happen, he wouldnt have let it happen
I feel sorry for Suleiman. He is not heatless. But he was influenced by the people surrounding him. Every time he killed his close person, he had to face a strom afterwards, out side and inside. And, amongst all of them Mustafa's death was the worst. It gave him pain every day and night like slow poison as Mustafa was his own blood. I believe he badly wanted to undo it, but unfortunately not possible.
You go, Hurrem!! Don't let him blame YOU for the order HE gave. That's totally on him. Get over it, Sultan!! Your order, your consequences!! Think about it!! I'm out!! Boy bye!!👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋!!
Recommended to someone who started watching MC from the first series: keep a Diary by your side and write down Hurrem’s phrases and roasts.📝 There’s a lot of them🔥
Hurrem did what she had to do to protect Suleiman throne and protect her kids. Suleiman wanted his power and also to protect his other 5 children over 1 who would dethrone him.
No matter what/who/how he was 'influenced', Süleyman had the final decision. He's not a new to the game. By this point was an experienced, powerful, Sultan. No matter what he is no child that can be easily manipulated, he has his own mind and incredible capacity to make his own decions irrespective of anyone else. So, no, the final decision is HIS. Trying to push all of the blame off on someone else is just not gonna fly bro.
Τhere, valide sultan admitted it, unlike others (mahidevil) She told the truth and also spoke facts here Suleiman did nothing, she's superior to him now he can't touch her , he doesn't know what to say True facts well done valide sultan.👍
That’s the one thing I’ve love about Hurrem. She KNOWS she’s not sinless. She knows she’s evil and she knows she’s don’t horrific things. And she’ll admit to almost every last one of those sins. Hurrem was incredible. Enough power to shut up the freaking padishah!!!
She was right , no strong politicial figure can be innocent , the innocent dies . Hurrem and Ibrahim were the strongest in sulieman's time and they only reached their greatness by being merciless . Then hurrem managed to expose some of ibrahim's mistakes and make traps for him because the strongest can't be 2 peoole for so long
Because in that era he is unparalleled and ottoman empire have no equal There are no king or prince dare to face him in battle. The reason he failed in seige of vienna becoz of weather not in his side. And logistical problem. There are a reason why western nation call him suleiman "the magnificent" lol
@@renwoxing7788 I was referring to her saying „no leafe would fall, no rain, no wind. The air we breath is yours“ ect…things like this only god can make it happen so thats why i didnt line it. I‘m not referring to his victories on the battle field
Ottoman sultans were reffered to as "god's shadow on earth" they were that megalomeniac like the rest of monarchs this is nothing i know from a religion stand point it's wrong but they also claimed the god shadow thing is from a hadith
Sulleiman gave the order, it's his fault but the snake whispered into his ears and pronounced death to Mustafa, and that's her fault! A father turned into a son's murder, all for power😢 what a tremendous curse to live by! Human nature knows no bounderies when it comes to greed! So sorry for Mustafa💔
It's Suleiman who allowed hurrem and rustem to do this .mm yess he gave them power he always allow them to hlame ans accuse Mustafa, it's Suleiman who killed Mustafa he wanted to kill the one who was capable to his throne.. and if it's about sin then there is no doubt the most sinful persons there were first Suleiman then hurrem
Was she asking who am I.. Didn't she know who was she.. She was a remote.. She was controlling Suleiman. He became like a robot. Hurrem said him 'Sit' he 'Sat', Hurrem said him 'Stand' he 'Stands'.Hurrem said him go to war he goes, hurrem said him execute ur son he execute's him.. And she is asking who am i..? Seriously.. 😂
You must be joking. Sure she tried to influence him. Try being the key word. But he never did anything he didn’t want to do. He could have stopped her at any point but instead he continually elevated her. He was the sultan and all the authority was his.
Yeh she was the actual sultan this season we know hurrem had an important effect on him like in previous seasons but now they are pushing it too far they turned suleyman the magnificent the most powerful empror of the 16th centuary into a puppet king😅
Multiplatedhim praise him as God Building his ego and then tell him who am I 😂🤣😂🤣 Like seriously You are his remote control He is your puppet He did what you oedered him to do not vise versa
@@chykim1 that's all what hurrem fans can do My spelling Ask UA-cam not to delete my comments and I will spell correct 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 when you have nothing to say you say your spelling 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@BriChuhime-sama Eh, I would hesitate to call Mustafa a traitor or even a martyr (to represent other opinions I've seen) in the end. He made one big mistake with the Janissaries, which put all of his other deeds under close observation, but those other actions probably wouldn't have stood out so much if not for Jannissaries and other factors (such as Suleiman's understandable paranoia). The circumstantial evidence was pretty damning, so I can absolutely understood why Suleiman acted, but, overall, I doubt Mustafa would have rebelled (he didn't need to).
@@Redluna32 well there were a few things that were signs of a traitor sehzade. Like growing his beard. Growing a beard was something only the padisah was allowed to do. There were other signs that i dont remember but he was technically really a traitor
@@hayhay8915 So, I don't know where you heard this, but Mustafa's beard had absolutely nothing to do with accusations of treason. Instead it had everything to do with that, while Suleiman was ill, members of the Janissary Corp rebelled against the orders from the sultan's representative to go pay tribute to the popular Mustafa. When the şehzade, unfortunately, didn't turn them away but rather rewarded them, this caused everything to unravel. I'd recommend reading Zahit Atçıl's essay "Why Did Süleyman the Magnificent Execute His Son Şehzade Mustafa in 1553?" if you really want to know the reality behind what happened (seriously everyone, this thing is so easily accessible).
Mustafa's followers would eventually have swept him into power and they would have de-throned Suleiman. Mustafa could was weak and could not have resisted their adulation.
That's the reason Suleman got carried away, she praised him like a God, put partial blame on him and went away with her head, she's been doing this from starting, and egostic, blind suleman kept listening to her
Hurrem get away easily... Suleiman never forgave mahidevran ... but he has different set of rules for hurrem..dhe killef Isabelle..she killed Mustafa.. Suleiman forgave het easily
This is messes up she gave him a clear answer that she had a hand in mustaffa's demise and he just sat there and done nothing i know he was looking for excuses to kill his son but still they turned him into an utter idiot this season
Why only *this season* .....???? Lol they portrayed their Magnificent Sultan of real history, in an absolute stupid King in the series. Pity, they destroyed a great personality
Because she was correct!! If he didn't want Mustafa to die, Mustafa wouldn't have died!!! He ordered that death, he sat there and watched his son be executed, not hurrem, yes she has power, but she's merely his shadow, all power remains with suleman.
I'm confused why so many people like hurrem. I don't like hurrem nor mahidevran. for me there is nothing good and right there. except musthafa and mehmet.
Hurrem is strong, smart, kind, powerrful. She always protects her beloved husband and children, fights against enemies and wins. She is survivor always! If you don’t like her don’t watch! Lmao!
"Do not look for innocence under this roof, Süleyman. For power and those who want it are never innocent." My most favorite line in whole series.
I agree still applicable to this day.
@@PING1313 Unfortunately, all too true .
@@geraldstephens6612 Yes it is.
And all is true even today after so many years. No powerful person is innocent.
@@sarahdemir776 sadly :(
1:53 Hurrem: “I am not sinless, nobody is. I did what I had to do, just like you. Don’t look for innocence under this roof, Suleiman, because those who have power and those who want power are never innocent.”
REPLAY FACTS, QUEEN! 👏🏼👑🔥
'i did what I had to do' so powerful phrase , so powerful sultana!
No one is innocent and mustafa also wants to be a prince but he never took the step full of cunningness
This what I like about Hurrem she knows she is no saint unlike Mahidevil who does things then tries to act like an innocent victim 😑
Lmao she answered that with the perfect clap back. “Bro of course I did it. But I’m your shadow. YOU wanted it, and it’s not like any of us is innocent. Don’t blame me bro, this is your cross just as much as it is mine”
He was a great sultan , well deserving . His battles , his administration were all great
Bro.......????😂😂😂
@@munazah9838 every generation is bro. You are bro. I am bro. We are bro.
😄😄
Exactly 💯😂
1:13 Hurrem slapped facts in his face: “And I, who am I, Suleiman? I am your shadow on Earth. Whatever you want, I want it too.”
After these words notice Cameraman’s 🎥 excellent work at 1:40 showing the Throne, because that’s what Suleiman wanted-to keep the Throne and he would never surrender it to anyone before his death, neither to his sons-even to Mehmed, nor to someone else! 🔥🔥
Because his father killed his grandfather after became sultan
He don't want that kind of death
@@priyankatanwar9999 exactly he had no problem with deciding next sultan but he just wanter someone to remain loyal to him and take throne after his natural death or death in battle and not like kill him to take the throne.
@priyankatanwar9999 I don't think a lot of Mustafa/Ibrahim supporters get.
Their laws, traditions, and religion allowed this kind of environment.
Sultan Suleiman himself was an oddball. He was one of the first to allow his Valide to use the Sultan title as no one who didn't have the dynasty blood could do so. Then he allowed his wife to do so, creatung a new title for her. Freeing her even. 🤷🏿♀️
The trades and laws he encouraged were supported becaise of this power he kept and wielded wisely against his enemies.
There's no way anyone would be sshowing off this pride if he wasn't a good leader. 😂
Hurrem always spoke with facts! Suleiman wanted to put all blame on her, but she shut him down in most powerful way-the Truth! She never denied her guilt, but she made him realize HIS own guilt too. Because at the end of the day- NEITHER of them were fully innocent: neither Suleiman, nor Hurrem, nor Mustafa. ✋🏼🔥
If we admit Suleiman did all that in influence of hurrem
It's not true
Suleiman was envious of Mustafa
He knew if he talk to him
Mustafa probably would prove himself right as he was always.
It was not hurrem who ordered to execute him
It was Suleiman himself. Who remaind it as Mustafa death was hurrem fault only.
It was Suleiman who never maitain his family.
He act on his own likes and dislikes
Hurrem just smarty played
@@azkaeman913 I think he wasn't envious but afraid. He was afraid of what was going to happen if Mustafa would've gotten the throne. All the other princes would've been beheaded (maybe not by him but his mom or even other pashas). Could be that he was mad at him for not stopping the people who called him "the next sultan" which he should have done 'cause it was betrayal not to.
That means she killed people also fact
@@azkaeman913 bwahahahahah! Whaaaattt? Suleyiman was Magnificent! Most powerrful sultan! Mustafa was nuthiing!
👉🏼Mustafa lied Suleiman many times, didn’t obey rules, briibed Janiisaries, bought Ships behind his father’s back. His biggest mistake was threattening Hurrem: “There will come time when your life will depend on my single word. I will be merciless towards you. I will crush snake’s (he meant Hurrem) head”.
And Mustafa WANTED throne and power. In episode 120 he says: no one will stand on my way to throne. And Atmaca reminds him that this may cause war between him and his brothers.
And FYI it’s recorded in history that mustafa had his Tughra made. Turkish historian Murat Bardakçi found and writes about a manuscript notebook belonging to Mustafa, on the first page being Tughra that says “Shah Sultan Mustafa, Khan son of Suleiman, victorious forever.”
According the Empire law only Sultan could have Tughra, no Sehzade ever! If a Sehzade made a Tugra the penalty was death!
He was definitely not pure and not angel! And he would for fact killl Hurrem and her sons if he became sultan, as other sultans did to their brothers.
READ HISTORY! 🤣🤣
@@genesisreyes8621lol 😂 it's never about death of other princes because whatever he does he knew any of them had to kill others ... And selim 😂 he hates beyzait, beyzait hates selim hurrem couldn't even stop then from fighting when suleiman is alive how could she prevent them to take lives if anyone of them gets throne .. suleiman was never afraid for him family... He was afraid for himself he knew that selim would never try to take throne even if Suleiman would 100. .. because he was too weak and coward also times passed suleiman himself isn't that like his youth and Mustafa was not only supported by everyone but he is also capable of throne .. he would lead the empire better than what he is running in those years he was afraid that Mustafa would avenge him for his injustice
His guilt feeling, but not letting him accept it due to his ego , finding excuses to blame it on hurrem. HURREM BEING SMART, SHOWED HIM MIRROR AND SHUT HIS MOUTH ONCE AGAIN.
Can u please tell what was written on that paper
His gulit feeling but not letting him accept it due to his ego finding excuses to blame it on
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It was letter from Mustafa
In real history he never burned it.
@@azkaeman913 Oh really? He told you? In real history Suleyiman called mustaffa traiitorrr doggg ahahhaahha
@@namrarajput2373 In real history there was no letter
I am shocked that Hurrem so calmly admitted participation in Padisah’s son’s murder, not fearing that Suleiman would execute her on spot, even if he was the one most guilty. He was very angry, looking for a scapegoat and she literally told him “I did what I had to do, just like you”. 😨
I would probably fall to Suleiman’s feet and die with fear and heart attack lmao.
She conspired as all other statesman
But Suleiman was culprit
He was envious of Mustafa
@@azkaeman913 hahahahaaha! No he was nottttt! He was Magnificent Sultan! Sit down!
@@azkaeman913 bwahahahahah! Whaaaattt? Suleyiman was Magnificent! Most powerrful sultan! Mustafa was nuthiing!
👉🏼Mustafa lied Suleiman many times, didn’t obey rules, briibed Janiisaries, bought Ships behind his father’s back. His biggest mistake was threattening Hurrem: “There will come time when your life will depend on my single word. I will be merciless towards you. I will crush snake’s (he meant Hurrem) head”.
And Mustafa WANTED throne and power. In episode 120 he says: no one will stand on my way to throne. And Atmaca reminds him that this may cause war between him and his brothers.
And FYI it’s recorded in history that mustafa had his Tughra made. Turkish historian Murat Bardakçi found and writes about a manuscript notebook belonging to Mustafa, on the first page being Tughra that says “Shah Sultan Mustafa, Khan son of Suleiman, victorious forever.”
According the Empire law only Sultan could have Tughra, no Sehzade ever! If a Sehzade made a Tugra the penalty was death!
He was definitely not pure and not angel! And he would for fact killl Hurrem and her sons if he became sultan, as other sultans did to their brothers.
READ HISTORY! 🤣🤣
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100% fact
@@camiyep0lat7585 wonderful research 👍👏
The scene is very powerfully written and presented. Indeed a great speech of hurrem sultan full of facts and truth 👏
One of the best scene - answer she gives to Suleiman is 100 true % and even she not give him chance to judge her.
At 2:35 suleyman looks at the red apple and realizes that his sons who could actually conquer rome( Mustafa and mehmed) are no more.
Good catch 👍
Wow never thought that
can you explain please
Red apple is the symbol of rome??
I like Mehmet very much
Hurrem is 👑⚡️ Historical Hurrem was not beautiful, but very smart, witty and joyful. That’s why Suleiman fell in love with her and stayed loyal to his love for eternity.
Historical sources describe Real Hurrem as “very intelligent, pious and cheerful person, a caring mother, a woman of exceptional manners and a great patron of poor people, arts, poetry.”
Venetian ambassador Pietro Bragadin mentions Hurrem as "not beautiful, although highly intelligent, petite, modest and graceful."
It’s nice to hear that Suleiman the Magnificent who had hundreds beauties in his palace, chose a woman with brains over passing beauty and stayed loyal to Hurrem even after her death.
The actress portraying young Hurrem is beautiful in my opinion.
@@Butterfly-zu3dy yes, Meryem and Vahide both are very beautiful
Do you expect your enemy to describe your property? That what you get? Why? Because your enemy always want to discredit what you own. Remember it because in this life time no one going to tell you that. It is only me. Remember it until you die. If you have good product don't show to your enemy otherwise you will be zzzz.
There are ? about that as usual Harem girls were very preety. They wouldn't had chosen her for Suleiman in the first place.
Hurrem was beautiful historically. You must remember they always chose concubines who are beautiful. The whole palace was full of beautiful concubines and even the slaves were attractive looking too. Bcz it was Ottoman's tradition they always chose the most attractive, smart slaves and concubines to serve the royal family. It's a part of their luxurious lifestyle. Hurrem had beautiful blue eyes and orange hair. Her hair was praised in whole turkey. She was attractive. But in comparison to Mahidevran she wasn't that beautiful. Mahidevran was the most beautiful woman In suleiman's harem . But generally Hurrem was also very beautiful
How many times has he read Mustafa's letter? Just because he destroys letter doesn't mean he will forget what Mustafa wrote. You can't unread something after you have read it.
Meaning he realized that Mustapha was implicated due to a slander.
He felt uneasy and remorseful as he realized he commited a sin . A very big sin that is to execute someone who is not guilty
By burning letter he tried to console himself
But invain
In Zahit Atcil research he was afraid of his son resemblance to his father.
He admitted his fault but his evil was more powerful
True
Hurrem was actually telling it like it is. Both were powerful, both ambitious and equally responsible.
Man, what a Masterpiece this show is!!
The Deep Words+ BGM+ the expressions+characters all merge to form a masterpiece👌
The most interesting thing about Hürrem's whole speech is realizing that, right after it, that witch hatun returns at least part of the essence of it right back to her when discussing how one of her sons will kill the other, "One of the princes will be killed on the orders of Sultan Suleiman. [...] If Sultan Suleiman doesn't want it, even leaves would not fall to the ground..."
He is responsible obviously. He is jealous and afraid of her son's popularity. Hurrem's words are harsh and fact at the same time. She is responsible also.
Yeah. It adds to the parallel between Mustafa and Bayezid.
And Süleyman has to accept that he is the one person who has the most power to impact events and change what happens.
Mustafa was blamed for treason never prove but biyazid did so.
@@azkaeman913 Mustafa died because of having the perfect setup to rebel whereas Bayezid did so in earnest, yes. But, at least in Suleiman's time, both were considered to have committed treason as "history is written by the victors".
The wisdom of Ferhat Agha is beyond the stars!
Let's face it, not only is Süleyman the person who gave the order but he's also the person who let these rivalries get to this point. He's the Sultan. He's the person with the most power. Hürrem and Mahidevran were both fighting to protect their children.
He was not a family man
Mahedevran denied to be his utmost slave
Hurrem smartly played
Hurrem was right Suliman created her and dispite what she did it all was Sulimans chose in end
After watching this I watched Bitter Lands and her role was Hunkar ' Lady of Cukurova ' she played that role as beautiful as she played Hurrem maybe even better.
Ferhat and malkocoglu was the only true loyal and trustworthy servants of Suleiman..
The AUDACITY of Suleiman trying to put all blame on Hurrem 😂🤦🏻♀️ Did Hurrem ask him to kill Mustafa? Did she bring the murderers to his tent to strangle his son? When Mustafa was fighting to save his life in the tent, did Hurrem scream to murderers: don’t let him go! Hurry up! Kill him fast?! NOPE! Suleiman did it-he wanted to get rid of Mustafa, because he remembered his father’s Selim l words-that younger lion will get rid of older lion for throne. Suleiman didn’t want to give up throne and killed Mustafa. He also killed Bayazid and his sons 4 years after. He could exile both sons far away, never return them back, but HE decided to kill them. So it’s ON HIM! 🤗
Exactly
She said it in a way that no other words needed to describe it better. If you didn't want it Suleiman it wouldn't have happened so dont look for innocence under this roof.
Suleyman knows he’s the main reason mustafa died but of course it’s hard to admit it that’s why he’s looking for someone else to blame too since the guilt is killing him. He suspected mustafa many times before killing him and his mere life was a threat to his throne so hurrem’s scheme was just the cherry on top. The fact that he just executed him without investigating or even confronting him is completely his fault and i hope hurrem’s answer made him realize that. Someone had to tell him that if he didn’t want something to happen, he wouldnt have let it happen
Of course! And he understood Hurrem was right ✋🏼
@@jeanneaubert4193 yup that’s why he couldn’t say anything after she was finished talking😌
@@fairybee7200 yepppp
The answer was so perfect and at same time manipulative yet honest.
She has guts- she told yes in the political way. Wow
I feel sorry for Suleiman.
He is not heatless. But he was influenced by the people surrounding him.
Every time he killed his close person, he had to face a strom afterwards, out side and inside. And, amongst all of them Mustafa's death was the worst. It gave him pain every day and night like slow poison as Mustafa was his own blood.
I believe he badly wanted to undo it, but unfortunately not possible.
You go, Hurrem!! Don't let him blame YOU for the order HE gave. That's totally on him. Get over it, Sultan!! Your order, your consequences!! Think about it!! I'm out!! Boy bye!!👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋!!
Well you cant argue the fact that if you manipulate someone to do something, it is not all that person fault. You are to hsving some responsibility.
Hurrem slayed this situation....A true sultana....
Recommended to someone who started watching MC from the first series: keep a Diary by your side and write down Hurrem’s phrases and roasts.📝 There’s a lot of them🔥
Hurrem did what she had to do to protect Suleiman throne and protect her kids. Suleiman wanted his power and also to protect his other 5 children over 1 who would dethrone him.
No matter what/who/how he was 'influenced', Süleyman had the final decision.
He's not a new to the game. By this point was an experienced, powerful, Sultan.
No matter what he is no child that can be easily manipulated, he has his own mind and incredible capacity to make his own decions irrespective of anyone else.
So, no, the final decision is HIS. Trying to push all of the blame off on someone else is just not gonna fly bro.
Τhere, valide sultan admitted it, unlike others (mahidevil)
She told the truth and also spoke facts here
Suleiman did nothing, she's superior to him now he can't touch her , he doesn't know what to say
True facts well done valide sultan.👍
yeah by now she had the power to speak the truth to Suleiman's face, because even if she dies one of her children will inevitably ascend the throne.
@@hussainsultanzada6123 yes finally Suleiman can't do whatever he wants.
yes she can because Mustafa will never be back again.
That’s the one thing I’ve love about Hurrem. She KNOWS she’s not sinless. She knows she’s evil and she knows she’s don’t horrific things.
And she’ll admit to almost every last one of those sins.
Hurrem was incredible. Enough power to shut up the freaking padishah!!!
@@BriChuhime-sama yes
Mahidevran never admitted any bad deed , until the end blamed others.
Always liked this guy but this logic wasn't it lol. You should never forget your sons after death, but learn from your mistake
Especially in this circumstance
He executed Bayazid and his grandsons after 4 years from now😢
Suleiman literally killed Mustafa because HE wanted to enough with the pointless drama just accept it and move on
She was right , no strong politicial figure can be innocent , the innocent dies . Hurrem and Ibrahim were the strongest in sulieman's time and they only reached their greatness by being merciless . Then hurrem managed to expose some of ibrahim's mistakes and make traps for him because the strongest can't be 2 peoole for so long
The only thing I dont like in this these was the way they describe and glorify him like a god
Because in that era he is unparalleled and ottoman empire have no equal
There are no king or prince dare to face him in battle.
The reason he failed in seige of vienna becoz of weather not in his side. And logistical problem.
There are a reason why western nation call him suleiman "the magnificent" lol
@@renwoxing7788 I was referring to her saying „no leafe would fall, no rain, no wind. The air we breath is yours“ ect…things like this only god can make it happen so thats why i didnt line it. I‘m not referring to his victories on the battle field
Ottoman sultans were reffered to as "god's shadow on earth" they were that megalomeniac like the rest of monarchs this is nothing i know from a religion stand point it's wrong but they also claimed the god shadow thing is from a hadith
@@kikima258 that makes much more sense why they say it like that. Still feels so wrooonngg hahaha
Absolutely right... I noticed that too.
Whatever high rank you have...be it an emperor.... you're still a mere human being
2:59 👑His Majesty's regal, purple 🛏️👕linen and 🥻👖pajamas are beautiful, thank you ❗❗❗❗❕❕❕❕‼️‼️‼️‼️
It is💕
True she said ,she w a s shaddow of him ,negative self of him
Yes...
Sulleiman gave the order, it's his fault but the snake whispered into his ears and pronounced death to Mustafa, and that's her fault!
A father turned into a son's murder, all for power😢 what a tremendous curse to live by!
Human nature knows no bounderies when it comes to greed!
So sorry for Mustafa💔
But she said the truth everything happened because of him
The best real novel . Hurram was really strong but after her comes Qusem queen was stronger .
Did suleiman ever got to know the murderers of Mehmet
No history say small pox illness
I bet it was Selim despite what they showed in the series. That guy was always jealous and trying something.
Ferhat is so cheesy I swear. He tries hard to sound deep but mostly speaks nonsense.
It's Suleiman who allowed hurrem and rustem to do this .mm yess he gave them power he always allow them to hlame ans accuse Mustafa, it's Suleiman who killed Mustafa he wanted to kill the one who was capable to his throne.. and if it's about sin then there is no doubt the most sinful persons there were first Suleiman then hurrem
Best.......
Was she asking who am I.. Didn't she know who was she.. She was a remote.. She was controlling Suleiman. He became like a robot. Hurrem said him 'Sit' he 'Sat', Hurrem said him 'Stand' he 'Stands'.Hurrem said him go to war he goes, hurrem said him execute ur son he execute's him.. And she is asking who am i..? Seriously.. 😂
Hahahahaa! What are you blllabbering? Hurrem never contrrollled him! Lmaoooooo
You ok? Are you drunk? 🫠🫠🫠
You must be joking. Sure she tried to influence him. Try being the key word. But he never did anything he didn’t want to do. He could have stopped her at any point but instead he continually elevated her. He was the sultan and all the authority was his.
Yeh she was the actual sultan this season we know hurrem had an important effect on him like in previous seasons but now they are pushing it too far they turned suleyman the magnificent the most powerful empror of the 16th centuary into a puppet king😅
Behind every successful man, there's a woman. And
Behind every stupid Sultan... there's a Hurrem or Kosam. Hahaaa
The death of Mustafa was the death of the Ottomans ... rest was just a formality.
Multiplatedhim praise him as God
Building his ego and then tell him who am I
😂🤣😂🤣
Like seriously
You are his remote control
He is your puppet
He did what you oedered him to do not vise versa
Hard to take this comment seriously, when your spelling is atrocious...
@@chykim1 that's all what hurrem fans can do
My spelling
Ask UA-cam not to delete my comments and I will spell correct 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 when you have nothing to say you say your spelling 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Curse on Hurram she killed innocent Mustafa actually she didn’t just kill Mustafa she eliminated the future of Ottoman Empire
Yes mustafa is not that innocent
Nope. Yet people just absolutely swear he is. (Historically Mustafa was a traitor, I hate how they made him seem like a pure little lamb in this show)
@@BriChuhime-sama Eh, I would hesitate to call Mustafa a traitor or even a martyr (to represent other opinions I've seen) in the end. He made one big mistake with the Janissaries, which put all of his other deeds under close observation, but those other actions probably wouldn't have stood out so much if not for Jannissaries and other factors (such as Suleiman's understandable paranoia). The circumstantial evidence was pretty damning, so I can absolutely understood why Suleiman acted, but, overall, I doubt Mustafa would have rebelled (he didn't need to).
True, he was trsitor
His eyes in real life were on suleimans throne. That's for many reasons.
@@Redluna32 well there were a few things that were signs of a traitor sehzade. Like growing his beard. Growing a beard was something only the padisah was allowed to do. There were other signs that i dont remember but he was technically really a traitor
@@hayhay8915 So, I don't know where you heard this, but Mustafa's beard had absolutely nothing to do with accusations of treason. Instead it had everything to do with that, while Suleiman was ill, members of the Janissary Corp rebelled against the orders from the sultan's representative to go pay tribute to the popular Mustafa. When the şehzade, unfortunately, didn't turn them away but rather rewarded them, this caused everything to unravel. I'd recommend reading Zahit Atçıl's essay "Why Did Süleyman the Magnificent Execute His Son Şehzade Mustafa in 1553?" if you really want to know the reality behind what happened (seriously everyone, this thing is so easily accessible).
Mustafa's followers would eventually have swept him into power and they would have de-throned Suleiman. Mustafa could was weak and could not have resisted their adulation.
That's the reason Suleman got carried away, she praised him like a God, put partial blame on him and went away with her head, she's been doing this from starting, and egostic, blind suleman kept listening to her
Everyone praised him like a god, Hurrem didn't build his ego by herself. 🤣
Multiplatedas always
You can’t even spell, sshosho B0T😂😂😂
Bwahahaaha! Sshosho bottttt, can you read or write?
Shhosho cllownnn said what? 😂😂😂
Hurrem the Snake
and Suleiman The Fool
Hurrem get away easily... Suleiman never forgave mahidevran ... but he has different set of rules for hurrem..dhe killef Isabelle..she killed Mustafa.. Suleiman forgave het easily
This is messes up she gave him a clear answer that she had a hand in mustaffa's demise and he just sat there and done nothing i know he was looking for excuses to kill his son but still they turned him into an utter idiot this season
Why only *this season* .....???? Lol they portrayed their Magnificent Sultan of real history, in an absolute stupid King in the series.
Pity, they destroyed a great personality
What did you want? 😂😂😂 She told him BOTH were equally guilty! Why must he kill only her? You🤡🤡
Because she was correct!! If he didn't want Mustafa to die, Mustafa wouldn't have died!!! He ordered that death, he sat there and watched his son be executed, not hurrem, yes she has power, but she's merely his shadow, all power remains with suleman.
I'm confused why so many people like hurrem. I don't like hurrem nor mahidevran. for me there is nothing good and right there. except musthafa and mehmet.
Betul syboun tak suka, bengis terselubung, tak berakhlaq
Hurrem is smart, strong, kind. She loves Suleiman and her children more than life and always prottects them. What show are you watching?
Hurrem is strong, smart, kind, powerrful. She always protects her beloved husband and children, fights against enemies and wins. She is survivor always! If you don’t like her don’t watch! Lmao!
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 if you don't like something that you have. Why you still have that ?
@@lilymasood3O67 if you don't like something that you have. Why you still have that ?
Хюрем очень хитрая прикинулась послушной овечкой
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The floor we walk on blah blah r purely infidel! Didn't liked it