Jon - thank you so much for this video. Rather than wheel bearings it was my kickr turbo that was in dire need of tlc. This video on the bearing extraction and refit, plus the cheap tool suggestion, were an absolute godsend. Your channel is great - keep up the fab work 👌🏻
It is very kind of you put all this effort into making these videos for us. I no longer believe that modern bike mechanics must be members of the magic circle.
Oh, don't be fooled, Dave!!! Every evening, there are cycling wizards all around the world gathered in fields, chanting bearing sizes whilst dancing around an old Campagnolo wheel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your channel is a treasure trove of fantastically detailed, specific and to the point information. For example love that you also mention that the bearing press will work for a bottom bracket - was not able to get that info anywhere else. Please keep up the great work!!
Many thanks indeed for this video. My Hunt 4 season wheels set has reached 4 years old and there is a lot of side to side play in the front wheel now. It’s time for new bearings but I was doing exactly what you described in the video and looking at my hubs and wondering how to go about extracting and inserting the new bearings. Fabulous explanation and the links to reasonably priced tools is perfect. I’m off to order on Amazon now using your link so hope you get an affiliate pay-back. Much appreciated. 🙏🏻
@ thanks. Just ordered everything and will have it all by the weekend so it’s a weekend of cycle servicing. Thanks for the vids. They’re much appreciated. Keep them coming. 👍🏼
I did my 4 year old Mason Hunt four season bearings today. Top tip: there is no spacer to seat the preload tube in the hub. I was mystified at how to centre this at first but you have to use the dust end caps as drifts as they protrude through the bearings just enough to seat the preload tube centrally in the hub. I used a 12mm drift into the ends of the dust end caps. I’m guessing that’s how Hunt do it.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!! SUBSCRIBED!!!! I am currently wondering whether I should do this for a set of wheels on one of my favourite bikes or whether I will take it to the bike local shop. Now I know that if they want to charge me more than £80 for both, I can do it cheaper myself AND get some more cool tools at the same time for the future! BRILLIANT CONTENT, WELL PRESENTED! Thank you so much for the alternative tools information! down to earth, no BS! All the best, Rob in Switzerland
Hi Rob in Switzerland! Sorry it took me a while to reply. To quote a good friend of mine, "It's a bicycle, not the space shuttle"!!!! You should definitely do it yourself, it's easier than you think, you'll save money in the long-run, and you'll get a sense of satisfaction from it all. Jon in England!!!!!
@@ribblevalleycyclist Hi Jon - I do normally do all the stuff on the bikes myself but I'm new to cartridge bearings on bikes so have been a bit wary. And I don't have those tools yet. But you did a great job of explaining how to, so might consider it. At the moment though all bikes are running well so will delay this step. By the way it's quite un-Swiss to maintain your bike thoroughly yourself here. People I know take it to their local bike shop. I have had a good set of bike tools since I was 15. Keep up the good work! All the best, Rob
@@RobWhittlestone Un-Swiss to maintain your bike thoroughly yourself...... Interesting. Here in the UK, we do say you should look after your LBS (Local Bike Shop), use it or lose it. I'll be honest, I do sometimes wonder if my online tutorials damage the already fragile bike shop economy. But the counter-argument is that it's important that we know how to fix our bikes ourselves. Thanks, Jon
Thanks, it helped me to change them in my Brompton. Nobody wants to touch these bikes and if the local “specialist” is s**t it is a proper DIY and it was a success.
Fantastic video, clear, easy to follow and so much useful info not rushed at all and all the useful hints and tips for all of us looking after our N+1 bikes 🎉
Great Video, Just what i needed to see, Very helpful & informative! New subscriber, as I am learning to build & maintain bikes myself now. Keep up the good work & thank you 😄
Videos are great, easy to follow and well explained as a tutorial. Any chance you could do a fixing High/Low limit screws and gear indexing / cable tension, thanks. Keep up the great work :)
Can you also do a video for the bearings in the rear wheel? I’ll make sure to save it for the next time I need to service them . Edit: I already saw your freehub video
I'll be honest with you timtimzi, if you've seen this, and the freehub video, you've got all you need to know. Put together, those two videos cover it all.
Got these tools based off your video thanks so much, only thing I wasnt prepared for, when the rear wheel is being done I need some sort of extender to miss the axel. Any suggestions for that?
I think what you mean is an over axle drift, that acts as an extender so that you can push the bearing into the hub over the axle. If thats what you mean, then this is the sort of thing you're looking for: wheelsmfg.com/catalog/product/view/id/922?_kx=Hmq0T-6cJYNI69-AJQC4esfmwUDj608MNDZ3eIEPuok.RgZHea
Hi Sharon, Just stick 'Pro Bike Display Stand' into Google, and you'll find loads of places selling them. But this is the link to the manufacturer's website: www.pro-bikegear.com/uk/tools-maintenance/bike-workshop-stands/bike-stand Use them on all my bikes, they're fantastic. Oh, and it'll hold either the whole bike, or just the wheel. Thanks, Jon
Your videos are very informative and useful. Thank you so much. I do however have a question about grease. Can I use f.ex. a bike teflon grease or muc-off waterproof bio grease?
Jon, I have a question. Does a direction of new bearings matter? Is there a chamfer on both sides of the bearing or do you need to pay attention to that? Tnx.
Hi Tadej, Really good question! In this application, the bearings themselves are symmetrical, so it doesn't matter. However!!!!! The seals that protect bearings can sometimes be different on each side. Stick this search into Google, and you'll see what I mean 'Contact seal vs non contact seal'
Hi Sharon, If you're replacing cartridge wheel bearings, like I do in this video, then the only measurements you need, are the ones shown in the video (Inside/Outside/Width). If you need to measure the bearing yourself to get the sizes, then the only accurate way of doing this is to remove the bearing and measure it.
Odd. Did you order the blue Amazon set I use in my videos, and link in the description? That has a 6802, I’ve just been down to the workshop and checked. Just as an FYI, it’s one of the drifts that is stacked on the press set, as opposed to the ones placed individually in the sponge.
@@ribblevalleycyclist ahh... slightly embarrassed here! Even the boy said they might be on the press, now I owe him a euro😆 sorry for hassling you on a Sunday, thanks for taking the time to check 👌
Hmm,maybe answering my own question, I don’t think this will work for rear wheel bearings as the axle will get in the way onwards the drive side. Will still buy the press for the front wheels etc
It's a good point you make. If looked after, cup & cone perform exceptionally well. The trouble is, they're not usually looked after. That's why, during its overall lifespan, a typical cartridge bearing setup performs better than its cup & cone counterpart.
@@ribblevalleycyclist makes sense. I've got a set of cup and cone wheels and they without doubt are faster than the cartridge bearing wheels I have but that may also be that the overall wheel construction (from rim to hub to bearing) is more high end on the cup and cone equipped wheels. I'm trying to get enough confidence to clean and re-grease the bearings but I'm a bit worried I'd get the preload wrong and wreck the cups and bearings. I guess a Cup and Cone Maintenance for Dummies would be a huge help!!
@MrJwmurph The biggest worry with C&C was the locking nut letting go of the cone. The cone becomes free to move, and the drag between the cone and the bearings causes the cone to tighten. The more it tightens, the more the drag increases, and the cone crushes the hub!
I’m pretty fussy about wheel bearings. I only use high quality steel bearings with non contact seals. NTN or NSK are my go to brands. You rarely see these brands installed in wheel sets because they are designed for precision machines not bicycles. Also expect to pay over £10 per bearing. I never bother with ceramic bearings as I read they are designed primarily for industrial machines operating at very high revolutions far beyond what a bike hub can reach.
@@ribblevalleycyclist the last video on the matter was uploaded 3 months ago. The problem is that they both make some valid points and I don't know what method to use. Someone should cut a bearing and a preload in half and show a close-up of the space available and if the puller fits.
@@Legate_Lanius The method I use in this video, for this hub type, is correct......... I'm not getting involved in other conversations with other UA-camrs!! If you dig through the comments in this video (You may need to change the 'Sort By'), you'll see that Mr H has passed opinion. Unfortunately, the answer is that the method varies depending on hub type.
@@ribblevalleycyclist I saw your answer to Hambini and I want to thank you because it clarified a lot of things. I also found this interesting puller: ua-cam.com/video/V88TGKH-qMA/v-deo.htmlsi=AqepJ82fclGGmS6J
You're the only person who's ever explained the purpose of the preload tube. Great video
OMG you are a godsend! Thank you for explaining it so easy and straightforward and even naming a few affordable tool options.
Glad you found it useful 👍
My favorite channel.
Everything explaned simply and efficiently.
Wow, thanks! 👍
Another great video that I've learned more from in such a little bit of time that I ever have in one video of GCN❤️🔥
The only thing is I can't use your Amazon links because I reside in South Florida in the United States.😮
Glad you liked it, Justin. To be honest, they're readily available tools, chances are, you'll find a local seller selling on either Amazon or eBay.
Jon - thank you so much for this video. Rather than wheel bearings it was my kickr turbo that was in dire need of tlc. This video on the bearing extraction and refit, plus the cheap tool suggestion, were an absolute godsend. Your channel is great - keep up the fab work 👌🏻
Glad it helped 👍
You are the best. Always look forward to your new videos. This one was a classic. Much needed. Much appreciated!!
Glad to help!
Thank you for the video, im replacing the bearings of a hack squat machine, nothing related to bycicles 😂 but helped me a lot !!
Had to go and Google hack squat machine 🤣
Love the simplicity of explanation.
Glad you liked it
It is very kind of you put all this effort into making these videos for us. I no longer believe that modern bike mechanics must be members of the magic circle.
Oh, don't be fooled, Dave!!! Every evening, there are cycling wizards all around the world gathered in fields, chanting bearing sizes whilst dancing around an old Campagnolo wheel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ribblevalleycyclist I have a 55 year old campagnolo wheel in my shed. I will look out for them on the next full moon.🎃
Your channel is a treasure trove of fantastically detailed, specific and to the point information. For example love that you also mention that the bearing press will work for a bottom bracket - was not able to get that info anywhere else. Please keep up the great work!!
Thanks 👍
Many thanks indeed for this video. My Hunt 4 season wheels set has reached 4 years old and there is a lot of side to side play in the front wheel now. It’s time for new bearings but I was doing exactly what you described in the video and looking at my hubs and wondering how to go about extracting and inserting the new bearings. Fabulous explanation and the links to reasonably priced tools is perfect. I’m off to order on Amazon now using your link so hope you get an affiliate pay-back. Much appreciated. 🙏🏻
Enjoy using those fantastic tools. Think it was a 4 Season I used in the demo. Number one tip, don’t do the puller collet up too tight. 👍👍
@ thanks. Just ordered everything and will have it all by the weekend so it’s a weekend of cycle servicing. Thanks for the vids. They’re much appreciated. Keep them coming. 👍🏼
@paulrowley71 Will do. Good wheel review coming out tomorrow at 11AM…… Not the result I expected.
I did my 4 year old Mason Hunt four season bearings today. Top tip: there is no spacer to seat the preload tube in the hub. I was mystified at how to centre this at first but you have to use the dust end caps as drifts as they protrude through the bearings just enough to seat the preload tube centrally in the hub. I used a 12mm drift into the ends of the dust end caps. I’m guessing that’s how Hunt do it.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!! SUBSCRIBED!!!! I am currently wondering whether I should do this for a set of wheels on one of my favourite bikes or whether I will take it to the bike local shop. Now I know that if they want to charge me more than £80 for both, I can do it cheaper myself AND get some more cool tools at the same time for the future! BRILLIANT CONTENT, WELL PRESENTED! Thank you so much for the alternative tools information! down to earth, no BS! All the best, Rob in Switzerland
Hi Rob in Switzerland!
Sorry it took me a while to reply. To quote a good friend of mine, "It's a bicycle, not the space shuttle"!!!! You should definitely do it yourself, it's easier than you think, you'll save money in the long-run, and you'll get a sense of satisfaction from it all.
Jon in England!!!!!
@@ribblevalleycyclist Hi Jon - I do normally do all the stuff on the bikes myself but I'm new to cartridge bearings on bikes so have been a bit wary. And I don't have those tools yet. But you did a great job of explaining how to, so might consider it. At the moment though all bikes are running well so will delay this step. By the way it's quite un-Swiss to maintain your bike thoroughly yourself here. People I know take it to their local bike shop. I have had a good set of bike tools since I was 15. Keep up the good work! All the best, Rob
@@RobWhittlestone Un-Swiss to maintain your bike thoroughly yourself...... Interesting. Here in the UK, we do say you should look after your LBS (Local Bike Shop), use it or lose it. I'll be honest, I do sometimes wonder if my online tutorials damage the already fragile bike shop economy. But the counter-argument is that it's important that we know how to fix our bikes ourselves.
Thanks,
Jon
Thanks, it helped me to change them in my Brompton. Nobody wants to touch these bikes and if the local “specialist” is s**t it is a proper DIY and it was a success.
Fantastic, glad it all worked for you. Enjoy that Brompton 👍
Fantastic explanation love your videos
Glad you like them!
Fantastic video, clear, easy to follow and so much useful info not rushed at all and all the useful hints and tips for all of us looking after our N+1 bikes 🎉
Glad you enjoyed it!
Straight forward tips easy to understand 👍
Thanks 👍
Another great video - thanks!
Glad you liked it. This one took some putting together!
Thank you for doing this for us. This is just awesome.
I loved making this video. Thanks 👍
perfect timing! I planned replacing them on sunday
Good luck with it all 👍
Nicely put together video, thanks. Just the right amound of detail.
Thanks 👍
Great vid. If you want to save yourself one minute you can use a punch to knock out the second bearing after removing that inner tube.
Thanks for your fantastic work!
My pleasure!
Great Video, Just what i needed to see, Very helpful & informative! New subscriber, as I am learning to build & maintain bikes myself now. Keep up the good work & thank you 😄
Welcome onboard 👍
Videos are great, easy to follow and well explained as a tutorial. Any chance you could do a fixing High/Low limit screws and gear indexing / cable tension, thanks. Keep up the great work :)
Genius as allways 😊
Thanks for your effort teaching us. Hat off.
Very informative, thank you!
You’re welcome 👍
Great video! Thanks. DD
Glad you liked it!
very instructive, thanks !
You’re welcome 👍
Can you also do a video for the bearings in the rear wheel? I’ll make sure to save it for the next time I need to service them .
Edit: I already saw your freehub video
I'll be honest with you timtimzi, if you've seen this, and the freehub video, you've got all you need to know. Put together, those two videos cover it all.
Great Videos thanks
You're welcome
Thank you so much
Got these tools based off your video thanks so much, only thing I wasnt prepared for, when the rear wheel is being done I need some sort of extender to miss the axel. Any suggestions for that?
I think what you mean is an over axle drift, that acts as an extender so that you can push the bearing into the hub over the axle. If thats what you mean, then this is the sort of thing you're looking for:
wheelsmfg.com/catalog/product/view/id/922?_kx=Hmq0T-6cJYNI69-AJQC4esfmwUDj608MNDZ3eIEPuok.RgZHea
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Hello Jon , excellent and informative , thanks for taking the time and effort to produce another video.
My pleasure!
Would you have a link for the wheel stand in the video please? Really helpful content as usual, thanks very much
Hi Sharon, Just stick 'Pro Bike Display Stand' into Google, and you'll find loads of places selling them. But this is the link to the manufacturer's website:
www.pro-bikegear.com/uk/tools-maintenance/bike-workshop-stands/bike-stand
Use them on all my bikes, they're fantastic. Oh, and it'll hold either the whole bike, or just the wheel.
Thanks,
Jon
Your videos are very informative and useful. Thank you so much. I do however have a question about grease. Can I use f.ex. a bike teflon grease or muc-off waterproof bio grease?
Hi, As the grease is just aiding installation, preventing corrosion, and not actually aiding movement, most will be fine.
this is so good!!!
youtube diy gold!!!
Thanks 👍
Jon, I have a question. Does a direction of new bearings matter? Is there a chamfer on both sides of the bearing or do you need to pay attention to that? Tnx.
Hi Tadej,
Really good question! In this application, the bearings themselves are symmetrical, so it doesn't matter. However!!!!! The seals that protect bearings can sometimes be different on each side. Stick this search into Google, and you'll see what I mean 'Contact seal vs non contact seal'
Just to add, how do you measure the bearing angles when ordering new ones? Thanks again.
Hi Sharon, If you're replacing cartridge wheel bearings, like I do in this video, then the only measurements you need, are the ones shown in the video (Inside/Outside/Width). If you need to measure the bearing yourself to get the sizes, then the only accurate way of doing this is to remove the bearing and measure it.
good job, good video
Thanks!
Do you have any rear hub rebuild videos on your channel? Including the free hub maintenance?
Here you go:
ua-cam.com/video/by4o0ozSh_M/v-deo.html
@@ribblevalleycyclist
Thanks Jon!!
What about removal and replacement of dust caps?
Theoretically, they should just pull off.
Ordered a press kit but no 6802 drift!! Can I use a 6902 instead?? Seems to fit the bearing. Only stumbled on your vids last week, top notch🤙
Odd. Did you order the blue Amazon set I use in my videos, and link in the description? That has a 6802, I’ve just been down to the workshop and checked. Just as an FYI, it’s one of the drifts that is stacked on the press set, as opposed to the ones placed individually in the sponge.
@@ribblevalleycyclist ahh... slightly embarrassed here! Even the boy said they might be on the press, now I owe him a euro😆 sorry for hassling you on a Sunday, thanks for taking the time to check 👌
Will these tools work for back wheel bearing on DT Swiss wheel?
Hmm,maybe answering my own question, I don’t think this will work for rear wheel bearings as the axle will get in the way onwards the drive side. Will still buy the press for the front wheels etc
If sealed bearings are better why do Shimano / Campagnolo (including Fulcrum) still use cup and cone bearings on all their high end wheels?
It's a good point you make. If looked after, cup & cone perform exceptionally well. The trouble is, they're not usually looked after. That's why, during its overall lifespan, a typical cartridge bearing setup performs better than its cup & cone counterpart.
@@ribblevalleycyclist makes sense. I've got a set of cup and cone wheels and they without doubt are faster than the cartridge bearing wheels I have but that may also be that the overall wheel construction (from rim to hub to bearing) is more high end on the cup and cone equipped wheels.
I'm trying to get enough confidence to clean and re-grease the bearings but I'm a bit worried I'd get the preload wrong and wreck the cups and bearings. I guess a Cup and Cone Maintenance for Dummies would be a huge help!!
@MrJwmurph The biggest worry with C&C was the locking nut letting go of the cone. The cone becomes free to move, and the drag between the cone and the bearings causes the cone to tighten. The more it tightens, the more the drag increases, and the cone crushes the hub!
The press kit doesn't have drivers for 16003 bearings.
thank you
You're welcome
It's the same way on MTB too.
You really do remind me of Sean Lock😂
Is there a right and wrong way to fit these bearings?
I’m pretty fussy about wheel bearings. I only use high quality steel bearings with non contact seals. NTN or NSK are my go to brands. You rarely see these brands installed in wheel sets because they are designed for precision machines not bicycles. Also expect to pay over £10 per bearing. I never bother with ceramic bearings as I read they are designed primarily for industrial machines operating at very high revolutions far beyond what a bike hub can reach.
Freeze the bearings and they'll go in very nicely
.😛
I hear this hack a lot...... Should look into it.
five-year-old-aerospace-engineer is crying right now.
Why?
@ because he likes to do it with a screwdriver.
15mm Iø
28mm Oø
7mm w
Seal 6902
Cartridge bearings are great if you don't do corners😂
Drift kit .
I just discovered there is some UA-cam drama on the bearing puller matter going on between Hambini and Reginald. Lol
Is that still going on, thought they’d sorted that one out years ago.
@@ribblevalleycyclist the last video on the matter was uploaded 3 months ago. The problem is that they both make some valid points and I don't know what method to use. Someone should cut a bearing and a preload in half and show a close-up of the space available and if the puller fits.
@@Legate_Lanius The method I use in this video, for this hub type, is correct......... I'm not getting involved in other conversations with other UA-camrs!! If you dig through the comments in this video (You may need to change the 'Sort By'), you'll see that Mr H has passed opinion. Unfortunately, the answer is that the method varies depending on hub type.
@@ribblevalleycyclist I saw your answer to Hambini and I want to thank you because it clarified a lot of things. I also found this interesting puller: ua-cam.com/video/V88TGKH-qMA/v-deo.htmlsi=AqepJ82fclGGmS6J
Do they pay for advertising?
No. They're my tools, that I paid for using my own money, and the thoughts are my own. I speak about them with enthusiasm, because they're good tools.
Excellent video. Keep up the good work 👏🏼