The Breakdown with Zirene: How Team Liquid Went from Cursed to 1st (NA LCS Finals)

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  • @idiotstupidboy
    @idiotstupidboy 6 років тому +263

    Love this kind of breakdown. So meticulous and analytical, makes the game much more interesting and worthwhile to learn

  • @user-sl3hs3rg6q
    @user-sl3hs3rg6q 6 років тому +266

    felt like a full game VOD review rather than the normal breakdowns.

    • @donovandec574
      @donovandec574 6 років тому +73

      Good. Zirene's upping the quality.

    • @NomSauce
      @NomSauce 6 років тому +17

      That was the point I think. Since there won't be any breakdowns for a while.

    • @Chickenning
      @Chickenning 6 років тому +7

      no because its not teamfight breakdown they changed it

  • @onetvergil5822
    @onetvergil5822 6 років тому +52

    that goofy looking gnar while hes ulted by sharner midtransformation to mini gnar xDD

  • @alexw8357
    @alexw8357 6 років тому +130

    That pun is out of this world

    • @ianlee6296
      @ianlee6296 6 років тому +9

      Rito is smooth like liquid.

  • @Lamb666
    @Lamb666 6 років тому +256

    They're still cursed. They were the fourth to win the championship. 4TH place team Liquid lives on.

  • @adrianpui9779
    @adrianpui9779 6 років тому +10

    jhin's lucky number is 4.
    tl is 4th team to win
    curse is still real

  • @bobdevice8038
    @bobdevice8038 6 років тому +1

    GODAMN ZIRENE THAT WAS THE BEST GODAMN BREAKDOWN OF ALL FREAKING TIME

  • @tsubasahanif9719
    @tsubasahanif9719 6 років тому +74

    Macro dominance comin in from TL

    • @toxicfrog6943
      @toxicfrog6943 6 років тому

      Tsubasa Hanif I love teams what do that just like the KZ break down just how they played the map was amazing

  • @ruudvmulken7891
    @ruudvmulken7891 6 років тому +88

    And they say its a simple game XD

    • @FissyCreek
      @FissyCreek 6 років тому

      Haha if only, right?

    • @Belovedad
      @Belovedad 6 років тому

      They're overthinking this

    • @SpaceboundMnM
      @SpaceboundMnM 6 років тому +6

      Who is they? I have not heard many people call it a simple game.

    • @kyaep4421
      @kyaep4421 6 років тому

      Belovedad This game has too many layers to it. Since it was not a clean game. Not dominating but great team play won the game. If it was simple we can just point where they won and how they snowballed. But it was not an easy win. Great team play won the game.

    • @dangermittens
      @dangermittens 6 років тому +5

      I disagree. Many people refer to this game as chess on steroids.

  • @vrmn8tr
    @vrmn8tr 6 років тому +1

    vision is knowledge, knowledge is power.
    you'd be surprised how important can a ward be for the game.

  • @aurious5821
    @aurious5821 6 років тому

    great breakdown as always, just goes to show how dangerous a 1-3-1 is if not done properly

  • @Nathan.W1696
    @Nathan.W1696 6 років тому

    pretty good breakdown, i think it's a good complement to C9 Reapered's VOD review of the whole series

  • @ryanw.3185
    @ryanw.3185 6 років тому +131

    The only reason they won was because Jhin. Don't ask me why... but the reasons definitely Jhin.

    • @huyle6799
      @huyle6799 6 років тому +12

      Ryan 013 you mean the fourth curse?

    • @daddydecember
      @daddydecember 6 років тому +14

      well he is all about the number 4

    • @joaquinderploid6386
      @joaquinderploid6386 6 років тому +8

      They are also the fourth seed in the playoffs

    • @damianvojtko9706
      @damianvojtko9706 6 років тому +4

      i was like jhin was nonfactor this game :D

    • @tang1aeb
      @tang1aeb 6 років тому +1

      4

  • @kuya1024
    @kuya1024 6 років тому

    rooting for 100T since Day 1 but TL just played this series immaculately. WP TL!

  • @wanggalileo2067
    @wanggalileo2067 6 років тому +2

    Jhin broke the curse with his 4 bullets

  • @BoBMaSt0r
    @BoBMaSt0r 6 років тому

    omfg this thing was perfectly orchestrated, ty zirene

  • @97TheAxel
    @97TheAxel 6 років тому

    really like this breakdown nice initiative

  • @aodelecta2365
    @aodelecta2365 6 років тому +38

    Why do we need a breakdown when the only reason why they won was due to the fact that can only win when something has 4 in the number.

    • @J040PL7
      @J040PL7 6 років тому +1

      too bad its not the 4th world championship, i guess they can still finish 4th at worlds then.

  • @Hunedpcl7
    @Hunedpcl7 6 років тому

    The Breakdown is one of my favorite series to watch.

  • @theKOmorita
    @theKOmorita 6 років тому +1

    TL did very well, great Macro understanding, and this Breakdown is awesome , but "played perfectly" only AFTER a big BIG mistake by Impact and Xmithie, giving huge advantages to Sumday by an extra kill from a bad tp back from Impact... TL can't afford doing things like that at MSI

    • @Inufan337
      @Inufan337 6 років тому +1

      That's why I'm looking forward to them being at MSI. Hopefully the challenge of playing better teams will help them patch up some of those rougher points. Best way to get better is to play people better than you.

    • @theKOmorita
      @theKOmorita 6 років тому

      Inufan337 yeah, this may be one of the best NA roster ever to go against international teams... Very excited for MSI

  • @Sravelha
    @Sravelha 6 років тому

    yeeey,lets try this on solo Q where we dont control any moves from our teammates, that should work!

  • @furrycutethings2124
    @furrycutethings2124 6 років тому

    Should have been the peek over the wall to baron steal with Xsmithie & Olleh. That one play shook the whole series in favor of liquid.

  • @Ripper00001
    @Ripper00001 6 років тому

    I feel like there is a bit of greedyness from 100 Thieves that enabled TL to do what they needed if you dont have the vision you mabye should try to play safer

  • @garthsimlik924
    @garthsimlik924 6 років тому

    This might be a dumb question, but does anyone know what the title of the music is in this video? I can't find it anywhere!

  • @vincequinitio7863
    @vincequinitio7863 6 років тому

    This video is so great....it helps me understand macro even more...tnx

  • @DontLeaveTheGardenerWithTheDog
    @DontLeaveTheGardenerWithTheDog 6 років тому

    Great work, Zirene!

  • @samanthanorris3344
    @samanthanorris3344 6 років тому

    legend says meteos is still waiting

  • @bruv_kekw8550
    @bruv_kekw8550 6 років тому +4

    I'd like to see Zyrene make a breakdown video on how FNATIC won against G2esports. That would be great.

  • @bigbomba3180
    @bigbomba3180 6 років тому

    That video title is a 10 outta 10

  • @bcisleoncool
    @bcisleoncool 6 років тому

    All three games got vision controlled pretty heavily, metros got outplayed that's it.

  • @FilterBySubgenre
    @FilterBySubgenre 6 років тому +1

    Why is Zirene still doing the breakdown if Jatt gave up his casting role this year just for the other mook casters to have more air time. He's the actual analyst now isn't he, he should be doing the analytical UA-cam breakdowns.

  • @JouninSpriggan
    @JouninSpriggan 6 років тому

    perfect breakdown

  • @Syveril
    @Syveril 6 років тому

    idk if it's easy to fix, but there's an error near the end where you state that 100T hasn't completed their backs after taking drake, when you mean to refer to TL. otherwise, nice breakdown. would've loved to hear about what would've happened if Gnar had executed a freeze top lane

  • @davidzuilhof2272
    @davidzuilhof2272 6 років тому

    more breakdowns please

  • @AlexGarcia-mx8mx
    @AlexGarcia-mx8mx 6 років тому

    What if the curse became a blessing... cursed to always finish 4th place but blessed to be the 4th team to win...

  • @seanwolstenholme2732
    @seanwolstenholme2732 6 років тому +74

    this series easily could have been a 100 t win if xmithie hadn't stolen Barron in game one, after that barron 100 T stared doubting themselves and played like tsm at worlds

    • @ironboy3245
      @ironboy3245 6 років тому +8

      Superficial Serpent lol castrated. I do agree though, I would have tilted off the face of the earth if i was focused that hard in ranked...

    • @WorldinJeopardy
      @WorldinJeopardy 6 років тому +28

      But here's the fact: they had a reason to be worried. They had every opportunity to make sure the baron was secured. Better vision, better shot-calling, etc. the reason Xmithie got the chance to kill that baron even after messing up the blast cone and having to sej Q in was because his team had his back. They fought in the pit, distracted 100 from putting full damage on it, and kept Aphromoo from CCing Xmithie when he got into the pit. Just because 100 had the advantage does not mean they had the superior map and team fight opportunities. Did TL win that game because of a baron steal? Absolutely. Was it a lucky steal? Absolutely not. Could 100 have played that better and avoided it? Absolutely. Just because a win was a steal, does no mean it wasn't deserved on some level. They took advantage of a mistake and closed the game out immediately to avoid giving 100 a second chance. Some teams wouldn't be able to do that.

    • @100TSirDante
      @100TSirDante 6 років тому

      Don’t say that too loudly or the TL fans will come! They don’t want to believe it

    • @yyggjh
      @yyggjh 6 років тому +3

      Easily? Highly doubt it.

    • @Honestboyproduction
      @Honestboyproduction 6 років тому +19

      Xmithie didn't messed up that blast cone. The angle he hit on the blast plant was exactly to the portion of the wall where Sejuani dash could most easily go through the wall to be in smite range with a chance of stealing while also being fat enough so that the Alistar couldn't headbutt him back over the wall given the positioning of Aphromoo. This is the guy that kindred ulted the 5th dragon vs RNG taking it away from them lol. If there's any clutch baron steal players i bet him to be one of the best if not the best in the world along with peanut.

  • @damianbroglio4253
    @damianbroglio4253 6 років тому

    love this videos

  • @lukeandre3473
    @lukeandre3473 6 років тому

    these breakdowns always end up leading to vision control and warding which is why i have high regards for pro teams

  • @Sam-vg4rj
    @Sam-vg4rj 6 років тому

    come on though, 100T were set up to win, but they were not good enough to make it happen!
    I'm going to assume most NA teams can't take such an advantage top side into a win, that's why they don't pick or ban camille!

  • @lildawg6955
    @lildawg6955 6 років тому

    Every time Zirine says 100T instead of 100 theives, the video gets 5%faster

  • @vardaanchauhan26
    @vardaanchauhan26 6 років тому +1

    Nice video.. but you wanna see a better map play go watch FNC vs G2 Game 3 baron play.

    • @vardaanchauhan26
      @vardaanchauhan26 6 років тому

      We will see soon at MSI when NA will get rekt by EU

    • @Hidea98
      @Hidea98 6 років тому

      How about we all just watch LCK and cry because Western banter is insignificant in the face of Korea :/

  • @kelvineus
    @kelvineus 6 років тому

    they should totally go to game 4

  • @IUICH21
    @IUICH21 6 років тому

    4th place to 4th team to win the lcs championship, so its time to brake the curse and be the 3rd team to win the world championship which is non-Korean team?

    • @RangKlos
      @RangKlos 6 років тому

      being first in NA has nothing to do with winning worlds, ask TSM...

  • @onetvergil5822
    @onetvergil5822 6 років тому +11

    so sumday lost the game by teleporting back to lane cuz he died by that first gank/dive...

    • @aeong1115
      @aeong1115 6 років тому +2

      Onet Vergil yes it the little things that matter... u probs hardstuck bronze

    • @Hidea98
      @Hidea98 6 років тому +6

      Yellowshadows u probs hardstuck silver

    • @TheBossStuart
      @TheBossStuart 6 років тому +2

      No u

    • @xNoxianGuillotinex
      @xNoxianGuillotinex 6 років тому +3

      Jeffrey ur bronze urself y u talking

    • @Luminated
      @Luminated 6 років тому +10

      it was more so he didnt play the lane right.
      Instead of shoving top he should've froze the lane and continued to deny impact CS and EXP. Instead he forced pressure with no tp pressure on the map. IF he had TP he could shove the lane, force Impact to go topside (with no TP) and force a TP play botside to steamroll the game.

  • @mauriciosanteliz9649
    @mauriciosanteliz9649 6 років тому

    PLS BREAKDOWN FNC VS G2

  • @delulupisces_2377
    @delulupisces_2377 6 років тому

    from cursed to cursed, 4th place to 4th team to win the championship

  • @coszyh4502
    @coszyh4502 6 років тому

    Nice breakdown

  • @ibrandom5420
    @ibrandom5420 6 років тому

    So 100t threw more than TL outplay
    2 recall on ward, dive fail and impatience

    • @Hidea98
      @Hidea98 6 років тому

      TL played to the 100T misplays extremely well I think is the main point. 100T made a few risks and mistakes but because TL was so prepared they were able to take advantage of them.

    • @Dev-nx6cm
      @Dev-nx6cm 6 років тому +1

      Ibrandom all comebacks start off from the other teams mistakes, it's about how well they can punish them

  • @wyld1699
    @wyld1699 4 роки тому

    well TL now is "1st to worst in spring 2020"

  • @ibrandom5420
    @ibrandom5420 6 років тому

    Need more LPL and LSK!

  • @pezaperi
    @pezaperi 6 років тому +1

    I feel like tl won not because they were really good but because 100 thieves was bad

  • @joshestrada4147
    @joshestrada4147 6 років тому

    Ryu might as well go back to kt with making 100T lose finals

  • @naomishinozaki7973
    @naomishinozaki7973 6 років тому

    100 Tea sounds fire

  • @Cjbreezey
    @Cjbreezey 6 років тому

    Wait why is there a 10min video for this should just be a 30 second video of Steve's wallet opening and closing

  • @znarfhd6488
    @znarfhd6488 6 років тому

    next Episode: How Team Liquid got last in MSI....hehe

  • @PwnageJ
    @PwnageJ 6 років тому

    wheres tsm

  • @egonomics352
    @egonomics352 6 років тому

    The NA finals was literally SKT vs. KT. KT(Team Liquid) win not because they are good, they actually made quite a lot of macro errors, but rather because the enemy team(SKT and 100T) is significantly worse at both a micro and macro level

  • @xXniikOcraftXx
    @xXniikOcraftXx 6 років тому

    tldr: Ssumday fcked up

  • @vikinggoats4209
    @vikinggoats4209 6 років тому

    Loved this ^^)

  • @adrianbr4585
    @adrianbr4585 6 років тому

    TSM not in finals and NA lcs finals have 0 tickets + worst place for finals xD

  • @mxgoh1997
    @mxgoh1997 6 років тому +2

    Do one on eulcs finals

  • @mikek.8325
    @mikek.8325 6 років тому +8

    Edit: it has been pointed out to me that only friendly units and we spectators can see the passive transfer, so I was wrong.
    on that first play where 100 Thieves got the double kill Xsmithie could have avoided it if he'd noticed the permafrost transferring from Sejuani to Gnar. Either that or he saw it and decided to go for it anyway, but that just doesn't seem like something he'd do.

    • @Josh00T
      @Josh00T 6 років тому +2

      Mike Kim i don't think he saw is simce meteos was in the bush

    • @TheBossStuart
      @TheBossStuart 6 років тому +17

      We, spectators, can see the buff applying, but the enemy can’t see it when they don’t have vision of Sejuani

    • @dew9683
      @dew9683 6 років тому

      Nice try.

    • @mikek.8325
      @mikek.8325 6 років тому

      Stuart Ahhh that makes so much more sense

  • @chuongnguyen5553
    @chuongnguyen5553 6 років тому +1

    This video was paid by Steve

  • @keithw096
    @keithw096 6 років тому

    And then back to cursed.

  • @lostn65
    @lostn65 6 років тому

    100 did really well to get this far but aside from Aphro and Ssumday, they don't have world class players. Sorry, but they just don't.

  • @luluca9534
    @luluca9534 6 років тому

    why does this analyze makes it felt like gnar's fault that they lost hm

  • @storiesforlife5081
    @storiesforlife5081 6 років тому +1

    I think Ryu is just washed up now...

  • @totolelapino
    @totolelapino 6 років тому +2

    Not that impressive, mainly mistakes from 100 thieves... Why always focus on NA while there was beautiful drafts and games from Afreeca Freeks in Korea? A lot more to understand in my opinion

    • @Inufan337
      @Inufan337 6 років тому

      Always focus? Trolling or did you just not watch the KingZone Breakdown?

  • @koyamanger2537
    @koyamanger2537 6 років тому

    They went 1st because they the team won by money only. the team is cursed until now but because he players were bought, ofc, they win.

  • @ΓιωργοςΚαραπουλιος-μ8σ

    100 thieves missplayed everything , its so ez for TL to punish this big mistakes. Come on guys they cannt even use their summoners right .

  • @Danny-zm4ks
    @Danny-zm4ks 6 років тому

    Aw man I thought zirene was gonna make a meme about not banning Azir lul

  • @kalebstauffer462
    @kalebstauffer462 6 років тому

    They got Doublelift. End of video.

  • @dinosore_rs
    @dinosore_rs 6 років тому

    Or as Bronze would say:
    *BG this team too heavy report pls*

  • @antonandersen461
    @antonandersen461 6 років тому +6

    Not a single trace of TSM in this one...What has the The Breakdown become??

    • @hatzuling
      @hatzuling 6 років тому +3

      Anton Andersen are you sure you're in the right year?

  • @tora4698
    @tora4698 6 років тому

    one tp was all it took to lose the game..

  • @tukachan3442
    @tukachan3442 6 років тому

    this is just like additional mathematics.I cant understand much even tho I listen a lot

  • @notoriousthief
    @notoriousthief 6 років тому

    But theyre still 4th...

  • @TheMe26
    @TheMe26 6 років тому

    so basicly speaking
    ryu cost 100t the game

  • @HunterBelkiran
    @HunterBelkiran 6 років тому

    Okay so the reason is quite simple: money

  • @sevillaf95
    @sevillaf95 6 років тому

    DL POGGERS

  • @RealKevinOnYouTube
    @RealKevinOnYouTube 6 років тому

    meanwhile TSM rofl

  • @fa204869
    @fa204869 6 років тому

    Hope TL is getting cursed again...

  • @Mekitojika9
    @Mekitojika9 6 років тому

    it was all wards

  • @HamletKnight9956
    @HamletKnight9956 6 років тому

    LCS is such a clown fiesta. Instead of good plays the game mostly revolves around who makes the more bad ones. And i think it got worse this season.

  • @bigjerm0746
    @bigjerm0746 6 років тому

    The wrong team @ 8 minutes lul

  • @mertis171
    @mertis171 6 років тому

    With the help of money ?

  • @assasinLoli
    @assasinLoli 6 років тому

    miracle PogChamp Kappa

  • @themanhimself436
    @themanhimself436 6 років тому

    you know its gonna be a bad breakdown when its na

  • @planetruths1373
    @planetruths1373 6 років тому

    100 thieves played so bad this series.

  • @acurlol
    @acurlol 6 років тому

    How TL went fr cursed to 1st : Buy a super team
    payed by Steve

  • @cssghostPL
    @cssghostPL 6 років тому

    This videos used to explain team fights... Not the whole games? WTF?

    • @hatzuling
      @hatzuling 6 років тому

      cssghost because the turning points of the whole game was team fights? WTF?

    • @cssghostPL
      @cssghostPL 6 років тому

      And now turning point is one missplay?

    • @aydinsalmanli
      @aydinsalmanli 6 років тому +2

      They told that they not going to do just teamfights this year, that's why they changed its name from "Teamfight Breakdown" to just "Breakdown". Look at the previous videos, there are videos about jungle pathing, teamfights, macro decisions and etc

  • @zyronltz7494
    @zyronltz7494 6 років тому

    TLDR Paid By Steve

  • @janezzuzek1676
    @janezzuzek1676 6 років тому

    Judt sad to look at

  • @Nyassassincreed
    @Nyassassincreed 6 років тому

    how they broke the curse? Buy all stars.

  • @rocky7611
    @rocky7611 6 років тому +16

    They lost because top lane is the least important role in the game

    • @Dev-nx6cm
      @Dev-nx6cm 6 років тому

      Rocky Turtles not really gnar had such a huge lead but they threw

    • @edwinhay6967
      @edwinhay6967 6 років тому +22

      Had it been KZ with a top lane lead, the outcome would had been different.

    • @kyaep4421
      @kyaep4421 6 років тому +1

      Edwin Even if Khan is the top laner he can only do so much.

    • @edwinhay6967
      @edwinhay6967 6 років тому +2

      Hambo Fries Im talking about how KZ would play around Khan.

  • @7l0vedkny2
    @7l0vedkny2 6 років тому +4

    A question: DoubleLift still save flash for next World?

    • @xXkulitv26Xx
      @xXkulitv26Xx 6 років тому +2

      Casey ???

    • @Hidea98
      @Hidea98 6 років тому +7

      Casey old meme that went stale like half a year ago. Next please ResidentSleeper

  • @stepbushi9013
    @stepbushi9013 6 років тому

    Codysun played so bad, he just stole cait but didnt know how to play her and meteos too no pressure jungle, no drake, nothing. Kappa

    • @Dev-nx6cm
      @Dev-nx6cm 6 років тому

      Charles Bonno he took dshield on cait against dl jhin and lost lane I think

    • @stepbushi9013
      @stepbushi9013 6 років тому

      Devoker ye cody is a nub he always need to be carried by moo and cant do the difference in teamfight

  • @Craftypanthy67
    @Craftypanthy67 6 років тому

    Paid by Steve

  • @oso1165
    @oso1165 6 років тому

    ryu is just so weak, years of playing on the garbage NA teams has taken its toll on him

  • @bookjunkie500
    @bookjunkie500 6 років тому

    Great analysis, but please stop referring to them as 100 T.... It just sounds weird and saying "Tee" literally takes just as much time as saying "Thieves", so you may as well just use their name....

    • @Dev-nx6cm
      @Dev-nx6cm 6 років тому

      Anthony Sansone it's not specifically toward their team, he refers to team liquid as TL numerous times as well in the video