DIY'er does Electrics: What Could Go Wrong?
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Join me in this exciting episode of "DIY'er Does Electrics" as I tackle a couple of important electrical upgrades for my water sewage treatment plant. Watch as I change out the control panel and replace the existing double UK socket with an enclosed outdoor-style European one to eliminate issues with adaptors. To compensate for the lost double socket, I also wire up an external weatherproof double socket on the outside of the brick enclosure housing the control panel and compressor. This video aims to show that even seemingly daunting electrical tasks can be perfectly manageable for a DIY enthusiast. With a bit of caution and the right tools, you can safely and effectively handle these upgrades yourself. So, what's the worst that can happen? Tune in and find out! Remember to like, comment, and subscribe for more DIY adventures and practical home improvement tips
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I'm Aiden and I'm documenting what was supposed to be my barn conversion, which has now ended up being a new build. I don't have a trade, I just have a go and I'll be doing lots of work myself. This is the boring bit in grand designs that you don't get to see. Subscribe and follow along to find out how our future home turns out.
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Extended and wired a whole new build on my property a few years back … 20 plug boxes over 4 rings. Cooker, geyser, solar/battery backup via a dual DB (included and excluded system). 8 rooms with 2-4 light options in each room.
Really enjoyed the process - and learned a bunch. Not super difficult for us DIYers
I did leave the final Trip switch disconnected - and paid a 1 hour charge for a “proper electrician” to screw that wire in … for insurance purposes
Cool little video Aiden. I flipping hate trying to squeeze wires into back boxes.
the worst part of every job is clearing the fucking tools away when you've finished... the amount of tools used sometimes is bewildering. well done on getting it sorted
I generally watch this channel to make myself feel better. Every fucking 30 minute job I do takes a day.
😆 why can't it ever be straight forward
HAHAHAHAHA! I can so relate to this! You're right - EVERY job, whether it's woodwork, pipework, electrical, drains, or whatever, it will ALWAYS become a bigger job and will take three times as long as you predict.
Was 100% waiting for you to put the socket in and the socket door not close 🤣
Very funny and great videos.
Aidan - Well done but to be honest I would just could the euro plug off and put a U.K. plug on - the manufacturer should have supplied it with a U.K. plug anyway not just throw in an adaptor. They would be on shaky grounds refusing warranty purely on the grounds of swapping plugs. Keep up the good work.😉👍
That was painful to watch 😳😩 Well done for persevering though Aiden 👏👌
i have got the same tester. I had no problems with outdoor sockets, been in over 5 years
The UK has the best plugs going. Love using them. They are satisfying to look at. However what’s with the whole unsheathed earth? In Australia and NZ the cable just comes with all three wires sheathed. Just how it is. Easy.
@@FuManchu5ltr humm I'm guessing it's something to do with keeping the girth smaller? 😆 In flex wire it comes sheathed 🤷
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT That’s what she said.
Another job done ✔️
Someone I know mentioned using a Niimbot - mobile printer label maker. He seemed to think it was OK for mild work, and cheap enough not to be sad if you left it in the rain.
Dymo label maker. Not cheap, but dead good.
electrifying video
you also could of cut the plug off and connected the cable into the spur with a 20mm pvc gland.
Great video.. That euro back box was a joke
Lots of suggestions for the Niimbot printers in the comments.. just to be a little dissenting:
A: These are fixed size, unlaminated labels. Will they last years in outdoor conditions? Who knows.
B: It's all run by an app. The data collection policy for the app makes interesting reading - especially the bits about collecting the content of your labels, and gathering and sharing your data without consent when it's in the 'public interest' or the name of 'state security' (neither being our public or state).
Buy a plain alphanumeric label printer with a keyboard - I have a cheap old Brother which works fine. Feed it off-brand cartridges - including heatshrink, which is very useful.
Apologies for any notification spam but this comment vanished twice already in prior forms - YT is 'fun' that way..
Helpful hint, use a step drill to go through the back box and it won't snatch the box from you like the normal drill bit did. Glad you got it all done and I agree with the ridiculous size of some of the back boxes, they really annoy the hell out of me too!
Love step drills.
@@robertharris8106 I couldn't find the step drill bit 🙈 I have a set of 3 smaller ones and a massive one but I have no idea where I've put them 😅
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT 😆I know that feeling too.
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT- Check it is not behind your ear, that’s where I usually find my pencil when I have spent an hour of looking for it.😉
Haven't watched it yet, but yesterday... Whilst trying to add an electrical outlet in my sauna, I discovered the incoming main power supply plug was labelled opposite to what the control box had been wired for. I'd diligently followed the labelling on the plug, but then gave myself a shock from what should have been a neutral wire. I mean, I shouldn't have been working on it live of course, but at least I realised there was an issue😂
Neutral is still a live conductor
@@mikethemask1525 but there should normally not be a voltage on it to shock you
Glad you're still here and able to comment 😅🙌
I genuinely thought the thing on top of that box was a toaster. 😂
😆 the compressor special, toasts small crumpets
Label maker - Niimbot, for example D110 is very cheap. They have different formats too
Should have gone to the double socket first and then back to the European socket 😎
@@neiltrevatt yeah could have done
you could have wired the EU socket with 1.5mm flex from the 13A fused switch, you could also have fed the double socket the same. 1.5mm flex is rated at 16A and you have a max. 13A fuse in the spur. But I’d have changed the plug to UK type.
Yeah that would have been easier to get the wire in the back of the EU socket probably. But it would have meant another trip to Screwfix 😆
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT my Screwfix is just up the road and I still hate going to get stuff, actually I hate shopping:-)
This might not be the answer you were asking for, but I got a cheap label maker from a carboot sale, paid £3 for one 😁
I'll give you £2 for it 😉
Aiden, great videos! Noticed you need a label maker, I'm here! I make professional labels, if you get back to me I will sort them for you foc. Best regards Chris
If you leave it long enough the grass will hide it ;)
@@MarkDurbin then the lawnmower will do the rest at some point? 😆
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT 😂
BS7671 18th Edition ("The wiring regulations") requires that RCD protection be provided for all socket outlets rated up to 32A in outdoor locations. If you do not have a 30mA RCD upstream, then you should really be including one before the Schuko socket. The BS1363 socket you removed had one. Highly recommended. Could save your life. Easiest would be to replace the fused connection unit for one with an RCD. Another thing to think about is fusing. If the air pump requires a 3A fuse, you might require a 3A RCD protected fused switch for the Shuko, and retain the 13A fused switch for the BS1363 socket. Shuko sockets are not shuttered (a requirement for domestic premises), so I would be inclined to cut the plug off and wire it straight into a 3A RCD protected fused connection unit fed from the 13A fused connection unit.
And his distribution board has a BG MCB in what appears to be a Proteus distribution board, a no no under the regs! But it does look like the distribution board has an RCD, but can’t read details.
@@davidchamberlain1513 Because, as we all know, a bimetallic strip and a simple solenoid can't be expected to work properly when placed next to the wrong label.
The consumer unit has a 30ma RCD, so are we all good? Apart from the question of what the control panel needs in terms of fuses
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT Yes, that RCD will be fine.
As for fuses, if they're supplying it with a standard Schuko plug they've no reasonable expectation of anything less than a B16 MCB supplying it.
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT If it was my install, I would be okay with that from an earth fault perspective, provided there are no extraneuous metal parts near the pump end (metal water pipes, etc). That would complicate matters and at that point I would suggest employing an electrician. For fusing, I would probably install a BS1363 socket or fused connection unit for the pump. The weatherproof socket didn't need an RCD as you have one upstream (and would be frowned upon as there would be no selectivity, ie a fault on something plugged into the socket could cause the RCD in the board to trip taking out other circuits and causing a nusiance). These are my understandings of the wiring regulations. I am not qualified in this specific area. Seeking professional advise about outdoor wiring is recommended.
Jesus…..i have seen some baggy sleeving in my time but that’s just taking the pi$$! 😂
@@CBE-d6j 😂 like a wizards sleeve
technically you could have just wired it into the switched fused spur.
Doesn't condensation happen due to cold? so even in the little roofed porch electronics can get damp and corrode. I imagine either the electronics in it's enclosure generates enough heat to keep the temperature above the dew point or there might even be heating resistors to heat up the air inside when it is cold. Could be if the power to the unit is switched off for a prolonged period in cold weather condensation can occur inside. Just me guessing.
Lesson learned methinks!l!...namely always cut the wire longer than you think it needs to be.
But lovely feeling when you switch on and it works......a sense of amazement & achievement 👍
@@Sean006 that's what happened to the plug in the winter but thats because it wasn't a sealed plug being a cheap adapter. The control unit is sealed and it's summer so there wouldn't be any chance of condensation
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT sealed electronics often experience condensation effects. Most enclosures actually have IP vents to allow heat to escape without allowing additional moisture in.
When using smooth drill bits, lock as normal then turn the chuck by hand back 1 or 2 clicks. They never tell you that you can lock the chuck 😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Woof!
Surely would've been easier to just fit a proper plug instead. Even if you swapped out the socket to an outdoor type.. which actually fits together nicely instead of that thing.
@@Monkeh616 it would have been easier but I'm just concerned about the warranty of the control panel 🙈
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT A common concern, but it's long been upheld that manufacturers cannot invalidate a warranty over fitting a plug. Goes back to the days appliances didn't come with plugs fitted.
You should have used the click bait of I was "Shocked"
@@gmac5112 🤣😂
Aidan me old fruit, how come greenhouses don't have gutters?, I have just assembled an old 30 year old 6 sided aluminium joker on my allotment which has no running water by the way , how do I catch the rainfall, any ideas?, cheers mate
@@Schinney lots of them have gutters built in, there's quite a few greenhouse downpipe kits out there although you could easily rig up a funnel and pipe to a water butt. Anyway, if you don't have anything you could get some aluminium j guttering, just seen some on ebay. Pilot it and use self tapping screws. I'll put a link after this, I'm pretty sure if I put a link then UA-cam doesn't delete it
@@Schinney www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275256250952?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=oLZO5EMzSiS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2IneN-08Rii&var=575526592807&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I can't stop laughing at the rcd main switch board with RCBOs as all but one circuits and then rcd socket. Jesus good thing as a DIYer you don't need to comply with any regs
The main issue is DIY electrical work can be okay but it’s also very hard to prove that it’s safe without the proper test equipment as faults could develop later on it also appears you replaced an RCD socket with a non-RCD one I don’t know if there was any reason for the RCD one that meant it had to be fitted but very much could have been required? It has been fused down and then when you connect multiple sockets, you really have to redesign the circuit. It does appear that there are not type tested brands of circuit breakers together, which can cause problems also the twin and a half not being RCD protected is potentially a regulatory issue is worth knowing all of these things because it’s fine until it develops a fault or something goes wrong which if it’s a very severe fault that causes lots of damage insurance will not pay out because there is no valid test certificate
@@UKsystems it's RCD protected on the board, the metal clad one didn't need it's own protection and neither did the external one I fitted
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT so why did you install more layers of protective devices because it simply makes fault finding a nightmare?
@@UKsystems because of scaremongering I was lead to believe it was safer but now I know better thanks to my subscribers
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT a lot of what I said is just fault finding and making it easier just so you know if a fault happens the first thing you should do is try another socket so you can work out where it’s tripping easier
Oh dear
NIIMBOT D110 Label maker £15 on Amazon.
got a better house than me that
Makeshift roof tiles fashioned out of what appears to be MDF ????
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Martin4963 😆 whaaaat? The tiles are clay
@@THE-AIDEN-PROJECT
I should have gone to Specsavers 🤣
Errrrm you shouldn't be doing electrics
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Replacing a socket is not notifiable works and you therefore are aloud to do it. The circuit should not have any major changes though.
@@davideyres955Notifiable work can be installed under a Building Notice, so he could even do that if he wanted to.
How come that all that junk sits outside the house ( so everybody can get in there and then you are fu.ked ) and not inside the house like in Europe 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I'm guessing because the water sewage treatment plant needs to be 7m from any habitable buildings so it's just more practical to put it in an outside cabinet. Most people tend to buy the plastic ones though rather than build something like I did