Man, ive been down this rabbit hole... We have the nylon (pantyhose) ones (single and double filter), stopped using these during the pandemic since you cant really clean them all that well. The metal ones are nice since you can douse them in lysol and theyre good to go. We got the proar with that C414 wannabe which works really well. And we even have silk ones that clip directly onto the grille of the mic... they're only workable on LDC's that are side address though. When you have the filter (any of them) more than a couple inches from the capsule... it kinda doesn't matter much. The issue is when you need the "talent" to get close to the mic for proximity effect or really "intimate" vocals. The metal ones still let some air through but tend to fare about the same as aquarium filter type. The nylon ones... depends on how thick they are. The thinner the worse off it is. The silk ones... not so great. They let a LOT of air thru. Silk ones made by windtech, metal are stedman.
Thanks for the vid, this was a good comparison vid because it’s rare for me to actually sit down and watch a review vid. Keep up the good work my friend
Yup, ..this "fish tank filter" material sometimes comes as free package material, for example with a tool order. If you allready have a pop filter, like a double nylon one, you can easely cut this filter material a bit oversized and band it up against the existing pop filter with a larger size hair elastic band normaly used for a pony tail. Hair elastics bands made from nylon panty material are cheap and really great for such usage. Just as they are great to use as replacement/spare microphone shockmount elastic bands - in any color you like. If the original pop filter nylon gets cut or frayed at on point, just cut it all out with a box cutter (or take it apart with a screw driver if it's not glued) and push the oversized "aquarium filter" material into the frame. Works like a charm.
I bought a fish filter about a year ago and cut out an old nylon filter. Then another company sold one similar to to the ProAR and I bought that cheap. The material was about the same as you discovered. Both do a good job of stopping plosives and are transparent enough. But I’ve got a theory that I need to test myself someday because I heard this on your video just now as well: I think the difference in the foam is how it handles air moving across it and the sibilance that comes through. I think the Hakan sounded better in that regard here, but I could hear that same rough air sound and slight harshness increase in the S sounds on less expensive options. It’s almost as if the “S sounds” sound more … mushy on the cheaper ones? Does that makes sense? It could be my brain playing tricks, but I did call the blind comparison correctly. I think it’s all in how that air and frequencies travel through the filter. Everything sounds cleaner on the Hakan.
100%! They are definitely close, but that's where I noticed the difference too... and also second-guessed myself! 🤣I am relieved to read this though, because I do feel the same and was unsure if I was just overthinking it. Thank you!
Oh! I never seen this video before. Yeah if you get aquarium foam at around 30 ppi it's going to match the Hakan pretty spot-on. I remember testing this and my conclusion is that the Hakan pop filter 'is' made of aquarium pond filter. Very important to get 30 ppi, the PROAR is not 30 ppi. But if you get 30 ppi they're pretty much going to perform the same. In other words it will sound transparent but still cover you on plosives. You can also use something like a Dragonpad and gut it out and put a pond filter inside too. At the end of the day at $1.60 these are probably the best pop filters, really no need to get expensive ones like Stedmans or Hakans or Pauly Ton etc. Honestly if you never said anything and submitted your recording to someone they're practically indistinguishable which is why I say to everyone save $110 and pay $1.60 instead.
I actually bought some different densities a couples weeks ago! I am still waiting to test them out. I went with the one that I saw getting mentioned as the “hakan killer” but wish I would have bought more at different densities at the time, I am putting out a pop filter review soon and was hoping to put a couple of those in, but they have been taking forever to get here! I should have just ordered from Amazon, but I am trying to not order so much from them 🤣 Thanks for commenting dude!
I think on your point about pop filter shootouts, what I would love to see is a small profile filter as really non of them needs to be that big in your face considering what it needs to cover. Be great to see if there are ways to DIY something much smaller that people can do at home.
Right, I'm not making a good case for my saving money. I ended up preferring the Hakan of the three in the blind test; the first one just sounded too closed off, muffled a bit, while the second was too open, sounded as if the plosives weren't being fully caught. The Hakan managed a slightly less bright sound than the second one without going _relatively_ muffled like with the first filter material, and it was better at catching plosives than the second one (though worse than the first I'd say).
Pop filter shootout would be very cool. I use the one that came with my King Bee (which I know doesn't have the best rep) and I have one of those nylon ones that come with Neewer-type "studio sets" and for me the convenience of the KB's filter trumps whatever advantages the other might offer but I'd love to see what results a side-by-side shootout between different pop filter types might do.
Yeah, I get what you mean; it's hard to beat the convenience of that Pop Filter that fits perfectly on the King Bee. I was thinking a cool Pop Filter comparison would be: Aquarium Filter style (lol): Hakan P110 Proar Pop FIler (Hakan Clone) Nylon "Traditional" Pop Filter: Shure Pop Stopper Neewer/Generic Nylon Pop Filter Metal Pop Filters: Stedman ProScreen 101 SE or On-Stage Metal Pop Filter (as the cheaper option) Are there any other pop filter suggestions I am missing?
Nice vid sir! Really enjoyed it! By the way, you can find all the different densities of fish filters, I assume that you can get a similar result as Hakan with less density fish filter.. maybe? 🤔
I am thinking in the next month or so! Here are the pop filters I am currently thinking of including; let me know if you think I should include or substitute any of these! Aquarium Filter Style (lol): Hakan P110 Proar Pop FIler (Hakan Clone) Nylon "Traditional" Pop Filter: Shure Pop Stopper Neewer/Generic Nylon Pop Filter Metal Pop Filters: Stedman ProScreen 101 SE or On-Stage Metal Pop Filter (as the cheaper option)
I bought some of this for my shotgun mix, this stuff works great, doesn't change the sound whatsoever and only cost a few bucks, only thing is trying to get it to look nice if your Mike's going to be on camera LOL
The last video I did, the huge comparison, I got really sick of saying/hearing "pickled peanutses" haha so I took a little break on this one. The peanutses are coming back though! I thought psyching people out and saying planters peanuts... with no "ses" would be funny 🤣. Only true OGs like you get it!
Man, ive been down this rabbit hole... We have the nylon (pantyhose) ones (single and double filter), stopped using these during the pandemic since you cant really clean them all that well.
The metal ones are nice since you can douse them in lysol and theyre good to go. We got the proar with that C414 wannabe which works really well. And we even have silk ones that clip directly onto the grille of the mic... they're only workable on LDC's that are side address though.
When you have the filter (any of them) more than a couple inches from the capsule... it kinda doesn't matter much. The issue is when you need the "talent" to get close to the mic for proximity effect or really "intimate" vocals. The metal ones still let some air through but tend to fare about the same as aquarium filter type. The nylon ones... depends on how thick they are. The thinner the worse off it is. The silk ones... not so great. They let a LOT of air thru.
Silk ones made by windtech, metal are stedman.
In this instance, instead of a rabbit hole should it be fish hole? fish pond? Fish cave? I don’t know…. Those all sound a bit fishy 😜
@@AudioHotline might have filter out some of those choices…
Thanks for the vid, this was a good comparison vid because it’s rare for me to actually sit down and watch a review vid. Keep up the good work my friend
Yup, ..this "fish tank filter" material sometimes comes as free package material, for example with a tool order.
If you allready have a pop filter, like a double nylon one, you can easely cut this filter material a bit oversized and band it up against the existing pop filter with a larger size hair elastic band normaly used for a pony tail.
Hair elastics bands made from nylon panty material are cheap and really great for such usage. Just as they are great to use as replacement/spare microphone shockmount elastic bands - in any color you like.
If the original pop filter nylon gets cut or frayed at on point, just cut it all out with a box cutter (or take it apart with a screw driver if it's not glued) and push the oversized "aquarium filter" material into the frame. Works like a charm.
Used decent headphones and couldn’t hear a difference. Fun idea for a video!
Nice! 😎 thanks for always watching and commenting!
I bought a fish filter about a year ago and cut out an old nylon filter. Then another company sold one similar to to the ProAR and I bought that cheap. The material was about the same as you discovered. Both do a good job of stopping plosives and are transparent enough. But I’ve got a theory that I need to test myself someday because I heard this on your video just now as well: I think the difference in the foam is how it handles air moving across it and the sibilance that comes through. I think the Hakan sounded better in that regard here, but I could hear that same rough air sound and slight harshness increase in the S sounds on less expensive options. It’s almost as if the “S sounds” sound more … mushy on the cheaper ones? Does that makes sense? It could be my brain playing tricks, but I did call the blind comparison correctly. I think it’s all in how that air and frequencies travel through the filter. Everything sounds cleaner on the Hakan.
100%! They are definitely close, but that's where I noticed the difference too... and also second-guessed myself! 🤣I am relieved to read this though, because I do feel the same and was unsure if I was just overthinking it. Thank you!
I recently lost my pop filter and have been thinking about what to replace it with.
Looks like I'm making a trip to Pet Smart in the near future.
🤣🤣🤣
Any filter will work the same but the distance from the mic should be adjusted for optimal performance
Oh! I never seen this video before. Yeah if you get aquarium foam at around 30 ppi it's going to match the Hakan pretty spot-on. I remember testing this and my conclusion is that the Hakan pop filter 'is' made of aquarium pond filter. Very important to get 30 ppi, the PROAR is not 30 ppi. But if you get 30 ppi they're pretty much going to perform the same. In other words it will sound transparent but still cover you on plosives. You can also use something like a Dragonpad and gut it out and put a pond filter inside too. At the end of the day at $1.60 these are probably the best pop filters, really no need to get expensive ones like Stedmans or Hakans or Pauly Ton etc. Honestly if you never said anything and submitted your recording to someone they're practically indistinguishable which is why I say to everyone save $110 and pay $1.60 instead.
I actually bought some different densities a couples weeks ago! I am still waiting to test them out. I went with the one that I saw getting mentioned as the “hakan killer” but wish I would have bought more at different densities at the time, I am putting out a pop filter review soon and was hoping to put a couple of those in, but they have been taking forever to get here! I should have just ordered from Amazon, but I am trying to not order so much from them 🤣
Thanks for commenting dude!
Thanks for the comparisons, very much appreciated! 😁
I think on your point about pop filter shootouts, what I would love to see is a small profile filter as really non of them needs to be that big in your face considering what it needs to cover.
Be great to see if there are ways to DIY something much smaller that people can do at home.
I was just on Amazon looking for this style pop filter but didn't know the name. Thanks.
Great review! I love this. I put on my studio headphones and there simply is no difference I'd say.
Right, I'm not making a good case for my saving money. I ended up preferring the Hakan of the three in the blind test; the first one just sounded too closed off, muffled a bit, while the second was too open, sounded as if the plosives weren't being fully caught. The Hakan managed a slightly less bright sound than the second one without going _relatively_ muffled like with the first filter material, and it was better at catching plosives than the second one (though worse than the first I'd say).
Pop filter shootout would be very cool. I use the one that came with my King Bee (which I know doesn't have the best rep) and I have one of those nylon ones that come with Neewer-type "studio sets" and for me the convenience of the KB's filter trumps whatever advantages the other might offer but I'd love to see what results a side-by-side shootout between different pop filter types might do.
Yeah, I get what you mean; it's hard to beat the convenience of that Pop Filter that fits perfectly on the King Bee.
I was thinking a cool Pop Filter comparison would be:
Aquarium Filter style (lol):
Hakan P110
Proar Pop FIler (Hakan Clone)
Nylon "Traditional" Pop Filter:
Shure Pop Stopper
Neewer/Generic Nylon Pop Filter
Metal Pop Filters:
Stedman ProScreen 101
SE or On-Stage Metal Pop Filter (as the cheaper option)
Are there any other pop filter suggestions I am missing?
@@AudioHotline that covers it I think, unless you wanted to include clown noses
Fun fact if you use a steamer on the foam it expands quickly and usually dries faster than of it was totally submerged.
That's awesome! I never would have thought of that!
Nice vid sir! Really enjoyed it! By the way, you can find all the different densities of fish filters, I assume that you can get a similar result as Hakan with less density fish filter.. maybe? 🤔
Thank you for the great information.
The Proar filter made an audible puffing sound when my breath hit it. I returned it immediately.
GREAT VID!!!
Pop filter shootout when???
I am thinking in the next month or so!
Here are the pop filters I am currently thinking of including; let me know if you think I should include or substitute any of these!
Aquarium Filter Style (lol):
Hakan P110
Proar Pop FIler (Hakan Clone)
Nylon "Traditional" Pop Filter:
Shure Pop Stopper
Neewer/Generic Nylon Pop Filter
Metal Pop Filters:
Stedman ProScreen 101
SE or On-Stage Metal Pop Filter (as the cheaper option)
Hilarious and useful.
I bought some of this for my shotgun mix, this stuff works great, doesn't change the sound whatsoever and only cost a few bucks, only thing is trying to get it to look nice if your Mike's going to be on camera LOL
Yes!!! That is definitely the biggest challenge with it!
Wait, no "pickled pexxxis"? Disliked and unsubscribed.
The last video I did, the huge comparison, I got really sick of saying/hearing "pickled peanutses" haha so I took a little break on this one. The peanutses are coming back though! I thought psyching people out and saying planters peanuts... with no "ses" would be funny 🤣. Only true OGs like you get it!
@@AudioHotline just joking bro I would never unsubscribe
unless you started shilling crypto or some shit, in which case I'm out