I know right I have always wondered why people don't use multiple pop filters like it would just mean more chances to diffuse the air but no one talks about if it would be a good idea or not to use multiple.
@@freedom4442 As in all things I suppose it comes down to balance, if you don't have enough diffusion your breath ruins the recording, but if you have too much your voice tone becomes muffled. It's probably a better outcome if you can find that balance, but it's also a pain to set up, adjust, or move around.
Lazlo T he has a point though, most likely if this was another youtuber this would of gone for 10+ mins while he did a short, simple and factual video which has actually helped me tons
I love how you tackle explaining a topic from different angles and in a short and effective video with actual demonstrations. I appreciate your advice and guidance. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I'm working on few projects and audio has been my worst area for awhile. Your channel has helped me IMMENSELY on choosing products that fit my budget and work. It sucks to see so many negative people come by to post rude comments, at least you've got a great sense of humor for comebacks. Thanks for all your vids! Don't let the haters get you down!
The Stedman was an instantly obvious winner. Looks transparent, sounds transparent, no plosives. Thanks for the excellent comparo! These will replace my slightly disgusting stretched nylon pieces immediately. $40 at Amazon, and vastly superior to the $30 music store items in every way. Sturdier, washable, better mounting hardware. These will make for some happier singers.
If you're using a microphone handheld, the foam windscreen is basically your only option (it's really hard to attach a pop filter to something as big as the microphone handle, and the foam screen works better when moved).
Mic placement has an enormous effect on plosive reduction. Note that many musical applications place the vocal mic just above the ‘wind’. Below is not as desirable, sonically.
It's important to remember that mic placement and technique is a key part in how you record! There are a few things you can do to fix problems you might be having, instead of buying equipment or 'fixing it in post'.
As a side note, There's plenty of tutorials online on how to make your own pop filters, and at least around here, you can find folks selling them often on Letgo or the like. If you buy a used one, and if smell is important to you, find out whether it was used in a smoking household.
@@weetzybat One thing is to stay close to the mic but at an angle. You can talk a little "Across" the mic instead of right at it, and this will keep the air plosives from hitting the mic diaphragm, but still pick up your voice nicely. 👍
this is one of those channels that at first, you're like....OK.... i don't get it, but after watching a few videos, telling you the truth, your videos are extremely well done, informative and thorough. The more videos i watch the more i look for the little inuendos like dobely-doo and throwing the boxes makes me laugh every time. you have a great sense of humor and great job on the videos! Thanks for all the info and helping those of us starting out and trying to follow our dreams make better and more informed decisions!
When you tested the wind screens and pop filters all at the same time, it sounded way better. Try it with a box on your head. Might not sound good, but will be funny as hell to watch!!!!!!! Thanks for posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have a SE dual pop filter, which side would u use? Plastic over soft fabric or opposite? Mia is pretty good with pops so we would only need one side & could probably get away with out any. Max clarity is the our goal as we’ve hardly ever had plosives. Sometimes we get a little sibilance
The difference is very clear in how they alter the sound of the recording. The Stedman metal design with the diffused air sounds the best, true to the original mic sound.
Excellent test! (And with no extraneous BS about other subjects.) Thank you for posting this. A question, though: if (as you said) you prefer a windscreen, why did you record this video with a big rectangular pop filter on the mic?
I am a subscriber because I like how organized he always is when talking about music tech. In each video I have seen with this host, I see plans written or at least mentally composed.
It is amazing how much better the Stedman was. I didn't expect myself to be able to hear a difference between the filters. But damn, the Stedman was clean! Thanks for doing this test!
I totally agree.I bought both the dual layer nylon pop filter and the windscreen but found that even though the pop filter does a great job it seemed to always get in the way and the windscreen did a fine job by its self.But a fantastic review.I will be sharing this with the rest of the clan.
Ok let's actually help this guy, Bandrew has said multiple times that he does not use any post procesing. That means no effects, although he does boost the sound a bit if it's too quiet. Hope this helps.
The mics he use are amazing so there doesn't need to be much post processing. If you have a dynamic mic, it helps to come very close to it which accentuates the bass. Or you can do this in post. Bass/mid heavy voices sound better generally. Doing some Deessing to the voice is also important since you don't want sibilant sounds piercing everyones' ears.
Funny, after watching you tell us not to use the Steadman Pop Filter in videos, I saw two music videos, and the singers had it covering a majority of their faces. So much for looking cool at a recording session.
At 3:13, he says he personally prefers the windscreen because he likes "the minor cut to the higher frequencies." Can someone please explain what that means? Thank you for the information.
I really like stedman's ps101. You can experiment its effectiveness while blowing to the pop filter your hand being placed over the filter. I also noticed there is a noticeable difference depending on the distance between the mic and the pop filter and the relative position/angle.
so there's no need to use a wind filter and a pop filter together? i want to start streaming and this is my main concern now whether itll be good to use both or if theres only need for one
It looks like you use a Hakan P110 in a lot of your more recent videos. Where would it have ranked in this shootout? Sorry if this question is somewhere below. I scrolled and scrolled and didn't see it. Thanks for all the cool content. UPDATE: I couldn't find a Hakan vs. Stedman shootout anywhere. Video opportunity?
i thought i had a dead pixel on my screen, but it was on the video. On the sm7b there's a tiny red dot near the connector and it stays there throughout the video
Stick with the sm7b man the NT1 is a little harsh for your voice. Had to turn my speakers down. I guess it could have been post processing too though. Edit this is an older video so I'm sure you've made changes by now.
My experience with the metal pop filter (and your test confirms this) is that it makes me sound like I'm singing into a telephone. Sure the highs are there, but something in the mid low frequency is missing and you ended up with the telephone effect.
Nylon ones can muffle the sound just a little bit, but a lot less than windscreens and you can always eq that later, boosting some highs. They are also great at filtering the pops as you showed. I didn't like these metal ones because they diversely created some metallic harmonics to the sound, boosted sibilants etc. on (not only) my voice. Nylon ones can also make the sound's attack smoother and metal ones can reproduce transients better, so the attack is shorter. It always depends on what you want to do. If you're beatboxing, mostly recording outside, speach or singing you will always want to use something else. You should always make your own shootout on mics and accessories even though it can be hard to even borrow them from someone.
Does the condenser microphone make a bottoming sound when a sponge is attached to the ? condenser microphone sometimes makes zero noise and sometimes bottom noise :/ When I touch the condenser microphone, the sound goes away...What solution would you suggest?
Is it okay if I use 2 pop filters together if 1 can't get the job done? I'm using the pop filter/shock mount that came with my rode nt-1, but sometimes the "p" sound is still very noticable.
What are those black things on the wall of the right side? The black things that look like folded paper? What are those? Also, is it possible to put on a wind screen and a pop filter?
I'm using that metal grill one. It reduces P sounds but also turns them into F sounds. I see "sE Electronics Dual Pro Pop Filter" so I think it's a good idea to stack it with a nylon filter to get better results.
The nylon ones are annoying… they cause less detail and then create a harsh ratchet sounding sibilance in the vocal… can’t get around it. I don’t even use a pop filter anymore… I legit just look a tad bit off axis and I have no problems and then my vocals sound 100x times smoother and natural
I would like to add, There are different versions of the "Mudder pop filter" I am using one I got for 5 bucks that has (from mic to mouth): A 2mm foam layer A metal grid like the one shown here And a ultra-fine nilon grid, I can't say for sure what it is but it looks A LOT like the dust filters I use in my pc. And I love it. Sure, I the Neewer double-foam, it performs better, but not that much better than the one I use now, not to justify the inconvenience of having a fresbee in front of me
Pop Filter FTW! A Mini Pop Filter Would Be Perfect Though. I'm currently using a windscreen but also own a dual layer nylon filter but it's too freaking big!
I don't have "exstreamly plosive eyes and i don't have an exstreamly plosive nose!"is something wrong with me?i just got my first condenser mic,a new sure ksm32 and now purchasing stedman from sweetwater.for home karaoke!
QUESTION I am an audio engineer on the go with a mixer interface (ZOOM R16) and 4 mics (Behringer XM8500'S) i would love a video with some suggestions on kit to put your kit on the go with - right now i use my laptop bag with some laptop pouches for padding and sleeves for microphones but just wondering what you would suggest or have some product recommendations - i've seen a few on amazon and hoping you already have some thoughts... even if they are more on the diy / ebay make it yourselve variety - love your videos!
Hey podcastage, you should do themed microphone shootouts similar to what you've done here. For example I'm very interested in finding a microphone for streaming and VOIP and whatnot. So General computer usage. What microphone would be best for streaming? You could also do price to Performance analysis or do price points type things. Vocal shootouts, instrumental recording shootouts and stuff like that too. I would also like to point out that I really love your reviews. They are very thorough and well done. I like when you do the keyboard tests and stuff on microphones something everybody thinks about but it makes a difference background noise can be a pain in the ass.
Ur voice hurt my ears
I understand your pain, because my voice hurts my throat, my ears, and my sex life.
Podcastage 😂 im sorry
Ok then 😂
Best response of all time!
Your comment hurts my eyes
Finally..someone tested their filters and windscreens all at once.
I know right I have always wondered why people don't use multiple pop filters like it would just mean more chances to diffuse the air but no one talks about if it would be a good idea or not to use multiple.
@@freedom4442 As in all things I suppose it comes down to balance, if you don't have enough diffusion your breath ruins the recording, but if you have too much your voice tone becomes muffled. It's probably a better outcome if you can find that balance, but it's also a pain to set up, adjust, or move around.
2000IQ
This legend has timestamps in a video that's only 3:50 long lol what a GOAT
Who needs watch time? Haha.
Helping out people with short attention spans lol
On UA-cam you see a lot of people use timestamps and chapters that are usually doing podcasts. I think they're just used to it.
@@Podcastage ill watch the whole thing just for you :)
ADHD friendly :D
Testing testing, painful passionate, peanut butter pandemonium, pen-pineapple, apple-pen.
Yep. Obnoxious fits the bill quite right.
I came up with the test phrase of "Susie Boomer wanted Peter Piper's sizzling Pumpkin Pie." To test stuff.
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2227957
THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE A VIDEO. JESUS CHRIST WHY DO OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A 30 DECADE LONG VIDEO?
For the same reason that some people type in all caps...because they are attention whores.
Lazlo T he has a point though, most likely if this was another youtuber this would of gone for 10+ mins while he did a short, simple and factual video which has actually helped me tons
Bacon Verde Amarelo more ad revenue if they go over 10 minutes
yeah i’m talking to you Booth Junkie
monetization, that's why
I love how you tackle explaining a topic from different angles and in a short and effective video with actual demonstrations. I appreciate your advice and guidance. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I'm working on few projects and audio has been my worst area for awhile. Your channel has helped me IMMENSELY on choosing products that fit my budget and work.
It sucks to see so many negative people come by to post rude comments, at least you've got a great sense of humor for comebacks. Thanks for all your vids! Don't let the haters get you down!
ill just write music without B's and P's
I got itches in Atlanta
This is actually how mumble rap happened
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@@photomatt2490 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
The Stedman was an instantly obvious winner. Looks transparent, sounds transparent, no plosives. Thanks for the excellent comparo! These will replace my slightly disgusting stretched nylon pieces immediately. $40 at Amazon, and vastly superior to the $30 music store items in every way. Sturdier, washable, better mounting hardware. These will make for some happier singers.
You lose low end and high end with them unfortunately
Just earned a like and sub for cutting straight to the point AND with timestamps. You legend.
If you're using a microphone handheld, the foam windscreen is basically your only option (it's really hard to attach a pop filter to something as big as the microphone handle, and the foam screen works better when moved).
Mic placement has an enormous effect on plosive reduction. Note that many musical applications place the vocal mic just above the ‘wind’. Below is not as desirable, sonically.
It's important to remember that mic placement and technique is a key part in how you record!
There are a few things you can do to fix problems you might be having, instead of buying equipment or 'fixing it in post'.
As a side note,
There's plenty of tutorials online on how to make your own pop filters, and at least around here, you can find folks selling them often on Letgo or the like.
If you buy a used one, and if smell is important to you, find out whether it was used in a smoking household.
What are the few things you can do
@@weetzybat One thing is to stay close to the mic but at an angle. You can talk a little "Across" the mic instead of right at it, and this will keep the air plosives from hitting the mic diaphragm, but still pick up your voice nicely. 👍
Really appreciate the short video with timestamps, refreshing after looking at other videos that are 20+ minutes, respect it being concise man
this is one of those channels that at first, you're like....OK.... i don't get it, but after watching a few videos, telling you the truth, your videos are extremely well done, informative and thorough. The more videos i watch the more i look for the little inuendos like dobely-doo and throwing the boxes makes me laugh every time. you have a great sense of humor and great job on the videos! Thanks for all the info and helping those of us starting out and trying to follow our dreams make better and more informed decisions!
Not only a basic comparison but listing each brand name, pricing and materials! legend!
Also at 1:47, that stedman *really* earned its price
"Which is the best?"
* Me sweating because I want to say when he used all of them at the same time.. *
Yup.
When you tested the wind screens and pop filters all at the same time, it sounded way better. Try it with a box on your head. Might not sound good, but will be funny as hell to watch!!!!!!! Thanks for posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree; I prefer windscreens over pop filters for the same reason.
I dont like windscreen sometimes i am really lazy to check the front mic and the U pattern shield helps know its instantly
I really enjoy watching someone who knows their job.....not just talking for the sake of it
We have a SE dual pop filter, which side would u use? Plastic over soft fabric or opposite? Mia is pretty good with pops so we would only need one side & could probably get away with out any. Max clarity is the our goal as we’ve hardly ever had plosives. Sometimes we get a little sibilance
That test phrase was as radical as your guitar riffs on the microphone reviews. Pure magic!
The difference is very clear in how they alter the sound of the recording. The Stedman metal design with the diffused air sounds the best, true to the original mic sound.
Excellent test! (And with no extraneous BS about other subjects.) Thank you for posting this. A question, though: if (as you said) you prefer a windscreen, why did you record this video with a big rectangular pop filter on the mic?
It built into the cradle that's made for that mic.
I am a subscriber because I like how organized he always is when talking about music tech. In each video I have seen with this host, I see plans written or at least mentally composed.
I've used the Stedman for years and been very pleased with results.
It is amazing how much better the Stedman was. I didn't expect myself to be able to hear a difference between the filters. But damn, the Stedman was clean! Thanks for doing this test!
Absolutely.
Can u use both at once?
I totally agree.I bought both the dual layer nylon pop filter and the windscreen but found that even though the pop filter does a great job it seemed to always get in the way and the windscreen did a fine job by its self.But a fantastic review.I will be sharing this with the rest of the clan.
Outstanding!!!! I was amazed that the four pop filters still let some pop sound through. Great video as always.
can we use windscreen and pop filter together.
the main pop filter you use outside of the ones you showed ,was the best one imo.
2:38 Nailed it!! Even got my tone and inflection right!! Exactly what I was thinking!! LOL :) 2:38
*_Q: What effects do you put on your sound after recording to make it sound amazing_*
*_Thanks_*
short answer - yes
@@Frostum lmao
Ok let's actually help this guy, Bandrew has said multiple times that he does not use any post procesing. That means no effects, although he does boost the sound a bit if it's too quiet. Hope this helps.
@@Frostum he probably left the internet. But thanks
The mics he use are amazing so there doesn't need to be much post processing. If you have a dynamic mic, it helps to come very close to it which accentuates the bass. Or you can do this in post. Bass/mid heavy voices sound better generally. Doing some Deessing to the voice is also important since you don't want sibilant sounds piercing everyones' ears.
where does something like the Hakan P110 stand in a comparison with these? thanks
Thank you for this video, this was definitely the most clear video out of all the ones I've seen. Pop filter is definitely what I'm going for
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Thank you so much for keeping this short.
Funny, after watching you tell us not to use the Steadman Pop Filter in videos, I saw two music videos, and the singers had it covering a majority of their faces. So much for looking cool at a recording session.
Can we use both at the same time
can you use a windscreen and pop filter together? or is that over kill?
which one is better for youtube animation?
At 3:13, he says he personally prefers the windscreen because he likes "the minor cut to the higher frequencies." Can someone please explain what that means? Thank you for the information.
I really like stedman's ps101. You can experiment its effectiveness while blowing to the pop filter your hand being placed over the filter. I also noticed there is a noticeable difference depending on the distance between the mic and the pop filter and the relative position/angle.
which one should i buy as a singer who owns the blue yeti?
so there's no need to use a wind filter and a pop filter together? i want to start streaming and this is my main concern now whether itll be good to use both or if theres only need for one
Is using both a windscreen and a pop filter overkill for podcasting indoors? My mic came with a windscreen but wondering if I should buy a pop filter.
I love your channel man.. I always the the answer to what I want to know in a concise and well presented manner!
the neewer pop filter was surprisingly effective, I'm probably going to get one :)
Do they help with background noise like keyboard typing and stuff?
How about running a foam windscreen with a pop filter? Is that a thing? My microphone kit came with both so why not just run both?
I have the hard plastic one that came with SE mic. I think it may have caused lots of WHISTLING, high frequency crap. Looking for nylon at the moment.
Do you think I would need one of these as a horn player using a ribbon mic?
nice video! I think you should do the test again, but this time with a fan turned on and facing the microphone.
Idk where this mic is available so im not sure if you can get a hold of it, but I would like to see a review of the Trust Emita USB microphone.
What about using the nylon filter and the metallic one at the same time?
Fast and efficient, thats the way I like informationnal video to be! Well done
It looks like you use a Hakan P110 in a lot of your more recent videos. Where would it have ranked in this shootout? Sorry if this question is somewhere below. I scrolled and scrolled and didn't see it. Thanks for all the cool content. UPDATE: I couldn't find a Hakan vs. Stedman shootout anywhere. Video opportunity?
should I get a hakan p110 instead of Stedman Proscreen XL?
Is using both windscreen and a pop filter bad for music ?
Thank you so much for this awesome video, Dude!
Purpose, difference, testing and recommendation in just a few minutes! Worth my subscription! 🤘
I actually like the(lack of an actual term) foamy slightly muffled tone in result of the foam windscreen.
It sometimes sounds soothing to my ears.
i thought i had a dead pixel on my screen, but it was on the video. On the sm7b there's a tiny red dot near the connector and it stays there throughout the video
Does it make a difference to the windscreen how dense the foam surface is? (If you know what I mean.)
Thank you so much for these videos! As I work to make my audio better, you keep answering my questions as I go!
Am I the only one who noticed no difference during the tests
I use the Mudder type one for singing.
I was gonna get the Stedman but I heard it gets this zingy ringy type of thingy sometimes.
Can you use a pop filter with a windscreen on your mic together? I mean I know you can but would that be to much?
Stick with the sm7b man the NT1 is a little harsh for your voice. Had to turn my speakers down. I guess it could have been post processing too though. Edit this is an older video so I'm sure you've made changes by now.
My experience with the metal pop filter (and your test confirms this) is that it makes me sound like I'm singing into a telephone. Sure the highs are there, but something in the mid low frequency is missing and you ended up with the telephone effect.
How about using the windscreen and pop filter together?
Nylon ones can muffle the sound just a little bit, but a lot less than windscreens and you can always eq that later, boosting some highs. They are also great at filtering the pops as you showed. I didn't like these metal ones because they diversely created some metallic harmonics to the sound, boosted sibilants etc. on (not only) my voice. Nylon ones can also make the sound's attack smoother and metal ones can reproduce transients better, so the attack is shorter. It always depends on what you want to do. If you're beatboxing, mostly recording outside, speach or singing you will always want to use something else. You should always make your own shootout on mics and accessories even though it can be hard to even borrow them from someone.
What windscreen do you use for the rode nt1??? Its seems to fit perfect
I have one of the circle nylon ones, and I sit somewhat far from my mic, is it only effective if your right in front of it?
That red pixel just to your left, over the mic plug had me freaking out for just a second
I thought my monitor was busting a nut.
When are you going to sell the Podcastage Quadruple Pop Filter?
I think using both the Stedman and Mudder be good choice...
Does the condenser microphone make a bottoming sound when a sponge is attached to the ? condenser microphone sometimes makes zero noise and sometimes bottom noise :/ When I touch the condenser microphone, the sound goes away...What solution would you suggest?
the Neweer pop filter that you said came with the mic, is there somewhere to buy it and which mic did it come with?
what kind of windscreen can fit like a microphone cause i have a hyper x solocast and i dont know which size does the windscreen fit in the mcieophone
Hi, is there a tendency for either dynamic or condenser microphones to require pop filters more than the other?
Is it okay if I use 2 pop filters together if 1 can't get the job done? I'm using the pop filter/shock mount that came with my rode nt-1, but sometimes the "p" sound is still very noticable.
What are those black things on the wall of the right side? The black things that look like folded paper? What are those?
Also, is it possible to put on a wind screen and a pop filter?
Foam panels. On the wall
what is a good pop filter for re20 will be used for podcasting.
I'm using that metal grill one. It reduces P sounds but also turns them into F sounds. I see "sE Electronics Dual Pro Pop Filter" so I think it's a good idea to stack it with a nylon filter to get better results.
The nylon ones are annoying… they cause less detail and then create a harsh ratchet sounding sibilance in the vocal… can’t get around it. I don’t even use a pop filter anymore… I legit just look a tad bit off axis and I have no problems and then my vocals sound 100x times smoother and natural
what if you use both foam cover and pop filter???
What happens if you use all of these together?
"Greetings, Earthlings" -> Instant Like!
rode psa1 and Heil PL2T,what's the difference between these two boom arm？
If I have the Behringer xm8500 (which is a dynamic mic), which do I get?
I've seen some use a pop filter and the foam. Will using both make a difference?
I would like to add, There are different versions of the "Mudder pop filter" I am using one I got for 5 bucks that has (from mic to mouth):
A 2mm foam layer
A metal grid like the one shown here
And a ultra-fine nilon grid, I can't say for sure what it is but it looks A LOT like the dust filters I use in my pc.
And I love it.
Sure, I the Neewer double-foam, it performs better, but not that much better than the one I use now, not to justify the inconvenience of having a fresbee in front of me
That's great to know that they have been expanding the line and improving.
Okay so like..will your audio suck if you add a muff and pop filter?
Pop Filter FTW!
A Mini Pop Filter Would Be Perfect Though.
I'm currently using a windscreen but also own a dual layer nylon filter but it's too freaking big!
DJHeroMasta
Pop filter MUST be larger than microphone otherwise it will increase amount of aiflow disturbances and as such it will be amplifying pops.
I don't have "exstreamly plosive eyes and i don't have an exstreamly plosive nose!"is something wrong with me?i just got my first condenser mic,a new sure ksm32 and now purchasing stedman from sweetwater.for home karaoke!
QUESTION
I am an audio engineer on the go with a mixer interface (ZOOM R16) and 4 mics (Behringer XM8500'S) i would love a video with some suggestions on kit to put your kit on the go with - right now i use my laptop bag with some laptop pouches for padding and sleeves for microphones but just wondering what you would suggest or have some product recommendations - i've seen a few on amazon and hoping you already have some thoughts... even if they are more on the diy / ebay make it yourselve variety - love your videos!
I wanna buy the small one, where can I find one?
I think the foam removes a little high end which helps voices a lot.
Hey podcastage, you should do themed microphone shootouts similar to what you've done here. For example I'm very interested in finding a microphone for streaming and VOIP and whatnot. So General computer usage. What microphone would be best for streaming? You could also do price to Performance analysis or do price points type things. Vocal shootouts, instrumental recording shootouts and stuff like that too.
I would also like to point out that I really love your reviews. They are very thorough and well done. I like when you do the keyboard tests and stuff on microphones something everybody thinks about but it makes a difference background noise can be a pain in the ass.
I want to record vocal with shure super 55, do I need a pop filter?