@@ABH313 I understand that. Trijicon jacking their price up $125 is ridiculous. I wish the window would’ve been bigger too but maybe that means it’ll be more durable than the p2. The thing I like most about it is its compatibility with the rmr footprint. I have an rmr hd on my Glock 19 and if something happened to that I could swap optics or vice versa. I think the cost of quality pistol red dots is getting closer to the cost of rifle optics like the t2 and Eotech unfortunately.
@GearAndGuns Yeah that's why I wanted it too. I "needed" a top-mount red dot for my VCOG and ended up getting the standard RMR on a black Friday deal for like $460.
@ Standard rmr is a solid choice, I just don’t like taking the optic off to swap the battery and the window is kind of small. Definitely a lot cheaper though especially getting it on sale like you did.
Straight up; google around online for sales or just look up preowned/used. Just be sure you know what you want and verify what it is you’re getting. I’ve found at least one brand new RCR for 6-Benjamin’s even. Acro’s in decent shape can be found reasonably priced as well. Picked up an RCR about two weeks ago. Threw it on a CZ P10. I really like the damn thing so far.
@@dontprayforme RCR recently upped their prices which makes it a little harder to get it for a cheaper price but yes buying used is a good way to save money or sometimes companies have sale like primary arms had $50 off last time I checked on the rcr. I’m not a fan personally of buying used but it’s a good option to save some money. Glad you were able to get one cheaper and your liking your rcr. 👍🏼
I have both and think both are superior optics. I also have had to send them in for warranty issues. P2 had dust / debris come loose inside. RCR was a very early model and had a very fuzzy dot. I had a few other RCRs to compare to determine it was truly the optic and not my eyes.
@@davidnguyen1151 I agree. I think they are both superior and the only 2 closed emitters I would use. Only other close option is the rmr hd which I like a lot as well. I’ve heard some people talk about problems on the p2 like fog inside. I think its seal ends up compromised overtime allowing stuff inside which I wish didn’t happen. This is my first time hearing about a problem on the rcr and the fuzzy dot but it’s good you were able to confirm the problem. I wonder if their less expensive rcrs were there trial runs.
@@DylanCanady That’s just what the manufacturers set the price at. Pistol red dots are getting closer to rifle optic prices. This inflation isn’t helping anything either. Wish it was cheaper too.
There is an after market aluminum battery cap available from Tango Down for the P2 that costs around $20. The ACRO is also easier to torque down and is a better deal overall.
ACRO is nowhere near as durable as the RCR. You only have to torque it down once so that really shouldn't be a deciding factor. By the time you buy a good mounting plate & aluminum battery cover you're at the same price or more than the RCR costs on the street
@ I could see the RCR being more durable because the front glass is more recessed. I personally don’t care about the battery cap or it being easier to torque down but for some people it matters to them.
Shooting with an Omega 9K the RCR window looks very small and the thicker frame obscures more of the target I prefer the original RMR haven't tried the HD yet I believe the RCR will be better on a long/sub gun
@@Senator-Wary Rcr has a little smaller than id like but not as small as the rmr. Closed emitter pistol optics usually have a smaller window. It was designed to be a pistol optic. I shoot with both eyes open and target focused and I’ve had no problem when a frame obscuring anything. The red dot goes on the target and that’s what I see. I didn’t like the rmr because of the battery location and the tiny window. I like the rmr hd, big improvements from the original rmr. I could see the rcr being good for long/sub gun.
@@eliduffer2491 I wish they were cheaper too but manufacturers are greedy and they set the price. Quality is more important than quantity and if someone’s life is on the line I want something I can rely on.
@@jiralxpatty Those are valid points. I’m not a huge fan of the blue tint either. Trijicon does that to increase their battery life supposedly. P2 is a good option. One thing I think is underrated is that all 4 of Trijicon pistol optics share the same rmr footprint so you can get your slide milled for it and have the flexibility of 4 optics. Even not having to swap adapter plates is nice.
@@jbarres80 Shouldn’t need to but depends what holster you have. What are you using? Some holsters like the safariland 6354 ask for specific red dot because it covers the optic but I’m not sure if it actually matters. I haven’t tried it with a different optic than what I chose. You can use any optic with open top holsters like the ones trex arms make. Only time it might be an issue is with holsters that surround the optic or active retention holsters with the strap over top.
@ You’ll shouldn’t have any problems with tenicor since it’s an open top design. I see a picture with their appendix holster and a holosun closed emitter in the holster so I’m confident you’re good there. Which safariland holster do you have? When you bought it do you remember which optic you selected on the website or what it was made for if the option was given?
@ You could get the rcr and try it in your safariland, worst case scenario might have to get a new safariland. You could sell your current one on eBay but I understand if you don’t want to do that. I’ve had to buy and sell tons of different holsters for light changes. Haven’t been able to test different optics in the same holster.
I’m about to get a 19 soon and been trying to figure out what I should use for it, I’ve been thinking about the holosun eps, or the acro, I would want something closed so I don’t have to worry about anything getting messed up. Are there any other closed optics anyone would recommend?
@@cameronthomas797 The only 2 I recommend are the Trijicon RCR or Aimpoint Acro P2. I do not recommend holosun because I don’t think they’re durable or reliable enough. Trijicon rmr hd is another great option but it’s an open emitter. Hope this helps, let me know if you have anymore questions.
@@darknature79 I do too. That’s funny haha. Holosun has to come a long way to compete with Aimpoint and Trijicon in my opinion, especially the acro p2 and rcr.
@@lbg59mp Acro is great, not sure if it’s the king. We’ll see how the rcr compares in durability. Most complaints I’ve seen on it is fog getting inside the glass or the front glass breaking. It’s worked great for me though.
@ I haven’t had many rounds on the rcr for durability testing, but when I did shoot ~100 with it, the body felt like it weirdly occluded the sight picture for me, similar to the mps. Id still take the rmr over it honestly and stick with acro for enclosed housing.
@ That’s interesting. Are you shooting target focused and both eyes open? I can’t do the rmr. Taking the optic off to swap the battery and the tiny window. Acro is solid though I’ve liked using it.
@ Yep both eyes open. Taking off the optic to battery swap definitely is a pain but the small window for me isn’t a problem since the housing is so slim that it basically disappears if I focus on the target. The same cant be said when I look through the rcr.
@@That.1CBR I understand that. I personally don’t mind the look of them but I try not to focus on aesthetics as a deciding factor but rather the function. Acro p2 is a solid product.
@ no doubt it’s a great, functional red dot. Just looks like you got a huge ass brick on the top of the gun which I don’t love., but hey opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Video was informative 👍🏼
@ I understand your point. Pistol closed emitters all kind of look the same and because of the way they’re designed don’t look aesthetically pleasing. Hope you were able to take something away from the video and enjoyed it. 🤝🏼
@@ChrisSullins I would’ve liked if it was bigger too, it’s pretty close to the acro. I don’t think looks are super important but I understand not liking how it looks.
we appriciate this keep going brother
@@kaliii3867 Thank you brother, I appreciate your support 🤝🏼
I wanted the RCR so bad but could justify spending that much, and after watching this video, I'm glad I didn't. The window looks tiny!
@@ABH313 I understand that. Trijicon jacking their price up $125 is ridiculous. I wish the window would’ve been bigger too but maybe that means it’ll be more durable than the p2. The thing I like most about it is its compatibility with the rmr footprint. I have an rmr hd on my Glock 19 and if something happened to that I could swap optics or vice versa. I think the cost of quality pistol red dots is getting closer to the cost of rifle optics like the t2 and Eotech unfortunately.
The RCR has a bigger window, that's what it seemed like to me in person anyway
@GearAndGuns Yeah that's why I wanted it too. I "needed" a top-mount red dot for my VCOG and ended up getting the standard RMR on a black Friday deal for like $460.
@ The rear window is decently big but the front window is smaller than the rear window on the rcr. P2 is taller.
@ Standard rmr is a solid choice, I just don’t like taking the optic off to swap the battery and the window is kind of small. Definitely a lot cheaper though especially getting it on sale like you did.
Straight up; google around online for sales or just look up preowned/used. Just be sure you know what you want and verify what it is you’re getting. I’ve found at least one brand new RCR for 6-Benjamin’s even. Acro’s in decent shape can be found reasonably priced as well.
Picked up an RCR about two weeks ago. Threw it on a CZ P10. I really like the damn thing so far.
@@dontprayforme RCR recently upped their prices which makes it a little harder to get it for a cheaper price but yes buying used is a good way to save money or sometimes companies have sale like primary arms had $50 off last time I checked on the rcr. I’m not a fan personally of buying used but it’s a good option to save some money. Glad you were able to get one cheaper and your liking your rcr. 👍🏼
I have both and think both are superior optics. I also have had to send them in for warranty issues. P2 had dust / debris come loose inside. RCR was a very early model and had a very fuzzy dot. I had a few other RCRs to compare to determine it was truly the optic and not my eyes.
@@davidnguyen1151 I agree. I think they are both superior and the only 2 closed emitters I would use. Only other close option is the rmr hd which I like a lot as well. I’ve heard some people talk about problems on the p2 like fog inside. I think its seal ends up compromised overtime allowing stuff inside which I wish didn’t happen. This is my first time hearing about a problem on the rcr and the fuzzy dot but it’s good you were able to confirm the problem. I wonder if their less expensive rcrs were there trial runs.
Why are they so expensive for a tiny little red dot?
@@DylanCanady That’s just what the manufacturers set the price at. Pistol red dots are getting closer to rifle optic prices. This inflation isn’t helping anything either. Wish it was cheaper too.
@@GearAndGuns It's not inflation it's them belong greedy.
There is an after market aluminum battery cap available from Tango Down for the P2 that costs around $20. The ACRO is also easier to torque down and is a better deal overall.
@@rayhull5051 Those are valid points.
ACRO is nowhere near as durable as the RCR. You only have to torque it down once so that really shouldn't be a deciding factor. By the time you buy a good mounting plate & aluminum battery cover you're at the same price or more than the RCR costs on the street
@ I could see the RCR being more durable because the front glass is more recessed. I personally don’t care about the battery cap or it being easier to torque down but for some people it matters to them.
Shooting with an Omega 9K the RCR window looks very small and the thicker frame obscures more of the target
I prefer the original RMR haven't tried the HD yet
I believe the RCR will be better on a long/sub gun
@@Senator-Wary Rcr has a little smaller than id like but not as small as the rmr. Closed emitter pistol optics usually have a smaller window. It was designed to be a pistol optic. I shoot with both eyes open and target focused and I’ve had no problem when a frame obscuring anything. The red dot goes on the target and that’s what I see. I didn’t like the rmr because of the battery location and the tiny window. I like the rmr hd, big improvements from the original rmr. I could see the rcr being good for long/sub gun.
Spending $600on a red dot is crazy
@@eliduffer2491 I wish they were cheaper too but manufacturers are greedy and they set the price. Quality is more important than quantity and if someone’s life is on the line I want something I can rely on.
@eliduffer2491 go ahead and buy your self an amazon Chinese bullcrap redot then!
sure fire burris?
@@shannonwolfrum1956 what about it?
blue tint and optic clarity. for me the p2 has the clearest glass and the least amount of blue tint.
@@jiralxpatty Those are valid points. I’m not a huge fan of the blue tint either. Trijicon does that to increase their battery life supposedly. P2 is a good option. One thing I think is underrated is that all 4 of Trijicon pistol optics share the same rmr footprint so you can get your slide milled for it and have the flexibility of 4 optics. Even not having to swap adapter plates is nice.
Do we need different holsters for the rcr I have a rmr right now but want enclosed
@@jbarres80 Shouldn’t need to but depends what holster you have. What are you using? Some holsters like the safariland 6354 ask for specific red dot because it covers the optic but I’m not sure if it actually matters. I haven’t tried it with a different optic than what I chose. You can use any optic with open top holsters like the ones trex arms make. Only time it might be an issue is with holsters that surround the optic or active retention holsters with the strap over top.
Have a Tenicor for appendix and safari land for duty
@ You’ll shouldn’t have any problems with tenicor since it’s an open top design. I see a picture with their appendix holster and a holosun closed emitter in the holster so I’m confident you’re good there. Which safariland holster do you have? When you bought it do you remember which optic you selected on the website or what it was made for if the option was given?
@ You could get the rcr and try it in your safariland, worst case scenario might have to get a new safariland. You could sell your current one on eBay but I understand if you don’t want to do that. I’ve had to buy and sell tons of different holsters for light changes. Haven’t been able to test different optics in the same holster.
I’m about to get a 19 soon and been trying to figure out what I should use for it, I’ve been thinking about the holosun eps, or the acro, I would want something closed so I don’t have to worry about anything getting messed up. Are there any other closed optics anyone would recommend?
@@cameronthomas797 The only 2 I recommend are the Trijicon RCR or Aimpoint Acro P2. I do not recommend holosun because I don’t think they’re durable or reliable enough. Trijicon rmr hd is another great option but it’s an open emitter. Hope this helps, let me know if you have anymore questions.
fast
@@shannonwolfrum1956 what about the fast fire 3 Burris?
@ what i ment to say not “sure”
@ Haven’t used it. I’d said it’s probably not that good based on the price and having not heard of it before.
I like the bigger buttons,holosun needs to stop with buttons for gi joe figures and step their game up.
@@darknature79 I do too. That’s funny haha. Holosun has to come a long way to compete with Aimpoint and Trijicon in my opinion, especially the acro p2 and rcr.
Im gonna get the p2
@@charles17508 Nice, I hope you like it.
windeg wtf it's a pistol you can't shot that far with a pistol
@@alfredhernandez778 windeg who? How far is he talking?
acro is king
@@lbg59mp Acro is great, not sure if it’s the king. We’ll see how the rcr compares in durability. Most complaints I’ve seen on it is fog getting inside the glass or the front glass breaking. It’s worked great for me though.
@ I haven’t had many rounds on the rcr for durability testing, but when I did shoot ~100 with it, the body felt like it weirdly occluded the sight picture for me, similar to the mps. Id still take the rmr over it honestly and stick with acro for enclosed housing.
@ That’s interesting. Are you shooting target focused and both eyes open? I can’t do the rmr. Taking the optic off to swap the battery and the tiny window. Acro is solid though I’ve liked using it.
@ Yep both eyes open. Taking off the optic to battery swap definitely is a pain but the small window for me isn’t a problem since the housing is so slim that it basically disappears if I focus on the target. The same cant be said when I look through the rcr.
@ If it’s not a problem for you that’s good. I want to get more time on the rcr to see if I notice the big housing problem you’re talking about.
The acro has a rearward biased lens behind a sacrificial lens 🙄
@@wolf_ofwarstreet7844 That’s correct. The Rcr does not.
c&h
@@nojoy7238 I don’t think c&h is better
The acro is just so ugly to me🥲
@@That.1CBR I understand that. I personally don’t mind the look of them but I try not to focus on aesthetics as a deciding factor but rather the function. Acro p2 is a solid product.
@ no doubt it’s a great, functional red dot. Just looks like you got a huge ass brick on the top of the gun which I don’t love., but hey opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Video was informative 👍🏼
@ I understand your point. Pistol closed emitters all kind of look the same and because of the way they’re designed don’t look aesthetically pleasing. Hope you were able to take something away from the video and enjoyed it. 🤝🏼
That's why I didn't go RCR. Too ugly and the window too small
@@ChrisSullins I would’ve liked if it was bigger too, it’s pretty close to the acro. I don’t think looks are super important but I understand not liking how it looks.
Performance should be the biggest factor in your decision. Wtf cares about looks. Looks is all subjective anyways
@@tommieboi707 I agree performance is the biggest factor.