I can't wait to show you all how these rims look on the Lexus! I want to give a big shoutout to John and his team from Union Rim on another spectacular job done with these wheels!
I have a 2017 F150 truck. My OEM PVD wheels are peeling AGAIN. I wonder if the process that Ford is using is different from what was shown in the video. The issue that I am hearing is that the coating peels and chips when applying tires to the wheel itself and more often when removing the tire from the wheel. Ford knows about this issue and a lot of people are having that issue. It’s more common when you have larger size tires mounted. Now that being said the size of the tire shouldn’t cause that issue if the wheel was durable enough like most are. Any thoughts on this issue? Thanks.
Been to Union Rims many times. John does excellent work. He is a true professional and always true to his words. In this world of hype and faking it til you make it, John is one of the rare exceptions and is a true craftsman.
I have only one word to say: AMAZING. I have been working as a powder painter for over 17 years and today I learned something from you.Good job and take care👏👏👏…Chapeau
Black chrome was always my favorite color on rims until I saw Transparent Copper. Not sure why it’s called Transparent lol but that’s what it’s called. A friend of mine does Powder Coating as well and he done his Mercedes Wagon that is a hunter green looking color and put the copper wheels on it and the thing looks freaking amazing!!
Man those wheels look absolutely phenomenal. This is the first time I've ever watched this process and am really impressed. Also glad to hear that PVD finish has benefits other than looks.
@Cars with Sonduren I'll keep an eye out for it. Do you have any videos of your lexus with the refinished wheels? I looked on your channel and didn't see any. EDIT: Never mind I found one.
I just dropped off my 20 inch wheel rims at Union Rim to be powder coated PVD Black Chrome finished. I did not know the full entire process that was involved until this video popped up on my recommended list. I can't wait to see the final results of my rims. After watching this video, I am sure I will be completely satisfied.
I have those exact wheels on my Lexus and just got two small stone chips. A wheel repair company near me said they CAN NOT be touched up. Explained the process and said there is no one near me that has the EXPENSIVE equipment that is needed to create these wheels. Having watched this video gives me a full understanding of what he was saying. I guess I will just hide them with touch up paint. 😢
I did a photoshoot for PVD black chrome in 2010 for Pacific Rims. They suppose to have a patent on it, lol. This was the hardest thing I ever shot. I finally figured out that the reflection in the wheel gives it the punch. The following ad I did for them had a woman in a bikini angled next to the wheel.
@9:50 You can't open that door because the machine has removed the air from inside to create a near vacuum (think outer space) within itself. It's not sucking the door shut, it's actually the weight of the atmosphere outside the machine, usually around 14.7 psi, give or take, that prevents opening the machine's door. It's a critically important law of physics to know. Thanks for sharing this video!
@LilKing420s. Normally, I would comment with "oh your that type of person that throws something sarcastic out there". Truth be told, your right...14.7 PSI and something that is "critically important law of physics to know". Another truth be told? I don't believe they teach that in our schools like they did in the old days. Shame.
Sure you can. If you know what you're doing, PVD is cakewalk. I service PVD, TVD, and EVD chambers for a living. It's a fun and exciting job. Especially when things go wrong.
there used to be a company in warsaw indiana that did this process but they closed a couple of years ago. i saw one of their display wheels when i was there. really a beautiful wheel appearance upgrade that you dont often see. the wheel looks basically the same but stands out from the others in a quiet way.
hi , the best powder coating i have seen in my life !!! amazing work !! can we cover motorbike magnesium whells ? thank for your answer . laurent from France .
Wow, informative video and you asked all the questions needed except the most important one- price! I know they're in Canada but certainly they could give an estimate.
Wow!!!! I love the care and time that you put into the process. Thanks for sharing. I have a issue that maybe you can help me with. I own a 2017 Ford F-150 truck. I bought it new from the factory. You probably know where I’m going. So my “wheels “are delaminating. From what I understand there is an issue with the process that Ford is using to produce these wheels. I LOVE the look of the wheels but they are delaminating. I don’t use harsh chemicals or acid based products. Mostly soap and water since they are so easy to clean. Mine has the regular chrome look. Not black chrome. The rim is a 20 inch rim. The tires that I run are Toyo Open Country 35x12.5 20. I was told that when tires of that size are added to the wheel the bead seals and when the tire is removed later to break the bead the finish comes away with it causing the delaminating issue. Is there a way to possibly spray the inside of the rim to keep that from happening? I really need your help. Thank you in advance. I hear a lot of people are having this issue. 🏆
Thanks he did such a great job absolutely love how I turned out and the attention to detail to make sure these rims turned out perfect was incredible to see!
I'm having my 2015 corvette wheels done this spring. Can't wait to see them on my car. What kind of warranty can I expect and what about cleaning them?
Powder coating is a non metallic finish, the part is cleaned and electrified so when the powder is sprayed it is attracted to the part. It goes on evenly and is dry (so it does not run like paint.) Then Its put in an oven and the coating melts / cures and very evenly wets and levels for a nice smooth finish that is more rugged than paint. PVD is a process where you can apply metal onto a non metallic surface (similar to plating). We used it in the defense industry for years (my experience is applying Aluminum on epoxy plastic). For PVD just put the prepped part in, the air is removed from the chamber to get the oxygen out (or else the metal will rust before it makes it to the part).. It sounds like they then add some Argon gas but for the most part it is still a vacuum in there (or the door would fly open). There is an electric arc generated which generates the metallic vapor and it is attracted to the part very evenly and it can go on very thin depending on what sacrificial metal the arc is generated on.. In this video if I understood correctly that sacrificial metal is that center rod which was chromium. When they took it out it looked just like regular chrome to me. That top tinted clear coat is where the magic happened. . . . Now I wonder what would happen if you just put that final tint over normal chrome? PVD looks to be a way cleaner process than chrome plating IMHO.
I have some questions. I’m wanting to learn how to do this. I want to add this to my resume. I’ve see so many videos and all of them are diff. I’ve seen a couple that stripped the object of its color then clean it then started the spray afterwards oven then they were done.. I’m just working out of home right now until GOD blesses me with a small shop.. but I’m confused I see your stuff of course is top of the line.. but for me especially if I’m doing rims do I treat everything like I’m really gonna paint. Prep,sand,base coat,sand, paint etc . Or no. I’ve seen some so called racers want there rim done like this it has no color to it other then the basic steel look.. then othered that have colored rims or chrome rims.. I just need basic fundamentals and/or direction to start my journey, and help or advice I’d greatly appreciate it and would not be forgotten.. I’m an artist and to me this it by all means ART ‘..
Why does PVD peel? I bought a set of @fuel wheels that were chrome PVD and they started peeling within 20k miles. They never seen salt. Never used wheel cleaner, just car wash soap and microfiber to clean.
I really need help guys I found this video because I have a set of 18x8 vogue pvd black chrome vt377 rims. These wheels have been discontinued and One of them is starting to show a black spot on it. I have take extreme care of these wheels. They are garage kept and I am dumbfounded on how they are peeling in one spot. I live in the U.S. can anyone point me in the direction to have it repaired properly?!!
I live in Connecticut I have a set of is a set of wheels from a 2001 Chevy S10 pick up pick up factory rims what would it cost to get them done roughly please comment back is comment back thank you
Is it possible to black chrome motorcycle engines? That would be stunning. I don't know how the chrome would react with engine heat and vibrations, however.
It really depends on a lot of factors, rim size, if they are dented or damaged and need to be fixed, the amount of layers and other variables. Your looking at $600 to $1000 for a set to be done!
My local rim shop told me 2k to do my set of rims for my 09 Audi A5 in black chrome. Never knew there was that much in the process. Question??? Do the heat affects the density of the rims ???
Hello there all I'm posting this in hopes to find a source that is sent afraid to keep what our country has to offer is free So here's the thing you be got iraw black chrome at my disposal and also several other precious metals so obviously I'm looks g for a buyer that can have my oar processed as well as buy some or trade part per part it's an option so hot me up fast an❤
I have a kawasaki ninja h2. The black chrome on the plastics is a nightmare. Can this be applied? I know u said u can do plastics but just wondering. Would bondo or fiberglass interefere w this?
With a Boar's hair brush something that won't scratch the finish and just use a simple wheel cleaner nothing acidic. Definitely would want to ceramic coat the wheels if you can as well to make it even easier to clean with just a pressure washer.
Hi, I found your sputtering cathode is very old and traditional cylinder model (indirect cooling ). In nowadays, we use planar sputtering cathodes which with direct cooling design, so the target has a perfect cooling channel. If you are interested, let me know.
I can't wait to show you all how these rims look on the Lexus! I want to give a big shoutout to John and his team from Union Rim on another spectacular job done with these wheels!
how much
800 to 1000 CAD $ for all four wheels
I have a 2017 F150 truck. My OEM PVD wheels are peeling AGAIN. I wonder if the process that Ford is using is different from what was shown in the video. The issue that I am hearing is that the coating peels and chips when applying tires to the wheel itself and more often when removing the tire from the wheel. Ford knows about this issue and a lot of people are having that issue. It’s more common when you have larger size tires mounted. Now that being said the size of the tire shouldn’t cause that issue if the wheel was durable enough like most are. Any thoughts on this issue? Thanks.
Been to Union Rims many times. John does excellent work. He is a true professional and always true to his words. In this world of hype and faking it til you make it, John is one of the rare exceptions and is a true craftsman.
Well said!
I have only one word to say: AMAZING. I have been working as a powder painter for over 17 years and today I learned something from you.Good job and take care👏👏👏…Chapeau
Thanks for the kind words! John is really amazing at what he does and it remarkable to see the process! Take care as well and 🥳
Absolutely love that black chrome color!
It’s beautiful huh? It looks so good on the Lexus as well!
Good job guys!❤
I have always liked the black chrome from the first time I seen it on a set of rims years back.
Black chrome was always my favorite color on rims until I saw Transparent Copper. Not sure why it’s called Transparent lol but that’s what it’s called. A friend of mine does Powder Coating as well and he done his Mercedes Wagon that is a hunter green looking color and put the copper wheels on it and the thing looks freaking amazing!!
Man those wheels look absolutely phenomenal. This is the first time I've ever watched this process and am really impressed. Also glad to hear that PVD finish has benefits other than looks.
It’s crazy. I have another video dropping next week of another set of wheels with a different finish! You are gonna love that.
@Cars with Sonduren I'll keep an eye out for it. Do you have any videos of your lexus with the refinished wheels? I looked on your channel and didn't see any. EDIT: Never mind I found one.
Your gonna love that one too :) enjoy!
I just dropped off my 20 inch wheel rims at Union Rim to be powder coated PVD Black Chrome finished. I did not know the full entire process that was involved until this video popped up on my recommended list. I can't wait to see the final results of my rims. After watching this video, I am sure I will be completely satisfied.
Nice congratulations!! Honestly your going to be blown away! You should mention you saw this to him too hahah
Its why you mostlikey paid a shit tone also!!??
How much per wheel?
how did it tunr out
How much per wheel?
I have those exact wheels on my Lexus and just got two small stone chips. A wheel repair company near me said they CAN NOT be touched up. Explained the process and said there is no one near me that has the EXPENSIVE equipment that is needed to create these wheels. Having watched this video gives me a full understanding of what he was saying. I guess I will just hide them with touch up paint. 😢
I did a photoshoot for PVD black chrome in 2010 for Pacific Rims. They suppose to have a patent on it, lol. This was the hardest thing I ever shot. I finally figured out that the reflection in the wheel gives it the punch. The following ad I did for them had a woman in a bikini angled next to the wheel.
That looks like an awesome addition. Lovely looking wheels. Sadly I still have the stock wheels on my IS250. Lame I know lol.
Still a wonderful car how many kilometers do you have on yours?
very nice i have 17" bmw alloys bit like them on my renault trafic love to have the cash to have them looking nice as them.. well done.
Real nice finish. No orange Peel. And By powder its Not That easy. Merry christmas from germany.
Merry Christmas from Canada! Thanks for the comment and welcome to the channel I have another powder coating project coming up soon so stay tuned!
I thought they were black!!!!!😳Wow stunning😍
More to come got another set getting a transformation
@9:50 You can't open that door because the machine has removed the air from inside to create a near vacuum (think outer space) within itself. It's not sucking the door shut, it's actually the weight of the atmosphere outside the machine, usually around 14.7 psi, give or take, that prevents opening the machine's door. It's a critically important law of physics to know.
Thanks for sharing this video!
@LilKing420s. Normally, I would comment with "oh your that type of person that throws something sarcastic out there". Truth be told, your right...14.7 PSI and something that is "critically important law of physics to know". Another truth be told? I don't believe they teach that in our schools like they did in the old days. Shame.
wow amazing! I guess this is the only why to repair my 2022 is350 wheels huh
Hahaha this is the way 😎
Rims look not bad . U should use a Rimco powder coatings. They are the best
This is amazing!! I want somn like this done
It really is a work of art.
This is art in the same way that painting a roof is like the Sistine Chapel ceiling. There's definitely skill involved. But he's not Michelangelo.
I started with a box chevy
Now I got the chrome Lexus
Dude can hear both weekends from a Wednesday.
Gorgeous
John is doing it so right that he does not need a face mask or face protection.
I do this in my wife's room with hand strapped just with my body.
I need to have this done on my SUV bumpers
Sure you can. If you know what you're doing, PVD is cakewalk. I service PVD, TVD, and EVD chambers for a living. It's a fun and exciting job. Especially when things go wrong.
there used to be a company in warsaw indiana that did this process but they closed a couple of years ago. i saw one of their display wheels when i was there.
really a beautiful wheel appearance upgrade that you dont often see. the wheel looks basically the same but stands out from the others in a quiet way.
Yeah powder coating has pretty much taken over so you don’t see too much of this anymore!
I myself live in the US (Texas) and am wondering who does this here in the states 🤔
@@RRWRAPS same am in Bay Area California and looking for someone who can do it
I bet those would amazing with a satin coat over them
Great video. THANKS!
Thanks Rich! Welcome to the channel brother
Very Interesting 🤔
It honestly turned out great so happy with the results!
hi , the best powder coating i have seen in my life !!! amazing work !! can we cover motorbike magnesium whells ? thank for your answer . laurent from France .
Very very nice, my question is what this cost? Wouldn't it be less expensive to buy new wheels?
Really cool, my shop is just around the corner from you on Milvan! Didnt even know about you, but i'll be bringing my rims over
Make sure you mention this video :-) he's a really good guy and his team are straight shooters you will love the work he does.
I want it!!
Find somebody in your local area or if you’re in Toronto go to these guys what a phenomenal job they did!
Wow, informative video and you asked all the questions needed except the most important one- price! I know they're in Canada but certainly they could give an estimate.
Roughly $1000 for a set of wheels
@@carswithsonduren what is life expectancy of powder coating of this type
If well taken care of it should be at least 10 years
Beautiful finish 😎
Thanks Rommel 💪
Sickness....pure savage
great job brother
Turned out perfect 😍
How much does a set of wheels done in this cost?
Roughly $1000
@@carswithsonduren 😵
I wish I could find someone in Texas that does this?
Not sure tbh
Wow!!!! I love the care and time that you put into the process. Thanks for sharing. I have a issue that maybe you can help me with. I own a 2017 Ford F-150 truck. I bought it new from the factory. You probably know where I’m going. So my “wheels “are delaminating. From what I understand there is an issue with the process that Ford is using to produce these wheels. I LOVE the look of the wheels but they are delaminating. I don’t use harsh chemicals or acid based products. Mostly soap and water since they are so easy to clean. Mine has the regular chrome look. Not black chrome. The rim is a 20 inch rim. The tires that I run are Toyo Open Country 35x12.5 20. I was told that when tires of that size are added to the wheel the bead seals and when the tire is removed later to break the bead the finish comes away with it causing the delaminating issue. Is there a way to possibly spray the inside of the rim to keep that from happening? I really need your help. Thank you in advance. I hear a lot of people are having this issue. 🏆
@clarkkent4991 And how's the wife and kids?
Look really good
Thanks he did such a great job absolutely love how I turned out and the attention to detail to make sure these rims turned out perfect was incredible to see!
How about price?
Great finish niceee
Thanks Roger got another set we’re doing some work to shortly. Looking forward to sharing that with everybody soon!
I have some curb rash on my black chrome is wheels, can he fix this and touch it up?
I'm having my 2015 corvette wheels done this spring. Can't wait to see them on my car. What kind of warranty can I expect and what about cleaning them?
Warranty various by the shop but I’d expect some warranty against peeling etc.
Beautifull!
Where is this place. I want to do my wheels. Please share if you know. Thank you in advance.
About how much does thay cost i have chrome Dodge rims on my charger but I want some black rims on it?
How to paint plastic wheels cover?
WWOOOOWWWW...those wheels look sick! Great process and results. But Canada is too far from Philadelphia. LOL
You'll just need to find somebody that provides PVD coatings, and with the appropriate skill ;)
@@carswithsonduren haha I agree.
fuel efficiency from a few grams saved on wheel coatings.... really?
is this black chrome prone on scratches?
Wow! Its been very long time ago that i need to paint my motorcycle wheel right this way and i still want it! 🤎🤎🤎🤎
Awesome 😎👍😎👍
how much does something like that cost? They look great.
About $800 depending on size of the wheel!
What is the different between powder coating, and PVD coating?
Powder coating is a non metallic finish, the part is cleaned and electrified so when the powder is sprayed it is attracted to the part. It goes on evenly and is dry (so it does not run like paint.) Then Its put in an oven and the coating melts / cures and very evenly wets and levels for a nice smooth finish that is more rugged than paint. PVD is a process where you can apply metal onto a non metallic surface (similar to plating). We used it in the defense industry for years (my experience is applying Aluminum on epoxy plastic). For PVD just put the prepped part in, the air is removed from the chamber to get the oxygen out (or else the metal will rust before it makes it to the part).. It sounds like they then add some Argon gas but for the most part it is still a vacuum in there (or the door would fly open). There is an electric arc generated which generates the metallic vapor and it is attracted to the part very evenly and it can go on very thin depending on what sacrificial metal the arc is generated on.. In this video if I understood correctly that sacrificial metal is that center rod which was chromium. When they took it out it looked just like regular chrome to me. That top tinted clear coat is where the magic happened. . . . Now I wonder what would happen if you just put that final tint over normal chrome? PVD looks to be a way cleaner process than chrome plating IMHO.
Do you want to bring y some black chrome
How much you pay for all processes a wheel
How much would it cost ti set up the whole shop 🤔 I'm in South Africa 🇿🇦 maybe I may be the first franchisee. This is beautiful 😍
I wish I could find someone in Alberta to chrome my wheels, I keep being told to send them to the states
Really nobody in Alberta can do this?
I have some questions. I’m wanting to learn how to do this. I want to add this to my resume. I’ve see so many videos and all of them are diff. I’ve seen a couple that stripped the object of its color then clean it then started the spray afterwards oven then they were done.. I’m just working out of home right now until GOD blesses me with a small shop.. but I’m confused I see your stuff of course is top of the line.. but for me especially if I’m doing rims do I treat everything like I’m really gonna paint. Prep,sand,base coat,sand, paint etc . Or no. I’ve seen some so called racers want there rim done like this it has no color to it other then the basic steel look.. then othered that have colored rims or chrome rims.. I just need basic fundamentals and/or direction to start my journey, and help or advice I’d greatly appreciate it and would not be forgotten.. I’m an artist and to me this it by all means ART ‘..
Yeah how can I get my wheels done?
this is a cool @zz vid. thank you!!!
They look amazing, and great video too. How much would it cost to get four wheels done?
About $1000
Is it even safe to do powder coat process without any mask??
Amazing , who does this in the US ??
Do we need do balancing after the wheel is repaired ?
soooooooo nice
Why does PVD peel? I bought a set of @fuel wheels that were chrome PVD and they started peeling within 20k miles. They never seen salt. Never used wheel cleaner, just car wash soap and microfiber to clean.
That’s very odd. Mine has not peeled.
Can you strip old school chrome off the oem wheels and have it black chromed ?
Yes you can!
Can your this on some motorcycle wheels?
Yeap!
can this be done on a motorcycle exhaust?
Yes, it can
How much is PVD chome black, for each magwheels
About $200 each
Is that finish also known as “hyper black?”
Yea it is!
I really need help guys I found this video because I have a set of 18x8 vogue pvd black chrome vt377 rims. These wheels have been discontinued and One of them is starting to show a black spot on it. I have take extreme care of these wheels. They are garage kept and I am dumbfounded on how they are peeling in one spot. I live in the U.S. can anyone point me in the direction to have it repaired properly?!!
Instead of asking random strangers on UA-cam don’t you think it would be a little smarter to just google it!
How do you match colour on the plastic center caps?
I live in Connecticut I have a set of is a set of wheels from a 2001 Chevy S10 pick up pick up factory rims what would it cost to get them done roughly please comment back is comment back thank you
Around $1000
👍😎
Is it possible to black chrome motorcycle engines? That would be stunning. I don't know how the chrome would react with engine heat and vibrations, however.
It would be able to work yes!
Were is the shop and the cost for 18” inch rims Honda Civic
The shop is located in North Toronto and a set of rims will cost about $1000
Looking for this for my 2020 lariat F-150 ! Bumpers,grill, wheels and handles!! How much ??
Im serious, live in Wisconsin. I want the only one around with black chrome !!, it’s already performance tuned! now it’s just aesthetics!
Honestly no idea how much that would all cost 😅
How do the tires get mounted without scratching the finish?
Same machine they would use for any wheels and tires.
@@carswithsonduren Won't the bar that presses the tire down and rotates scratch the wheel?
Price for a job like this
$800 to $1000
Can you do 22 semi wheel?
Any location in the states?
Not sure if possible or where in the states to be honest.
How much this cost for average joe like us ? Ballpark
It really depends on a lot of factors, rim size, if they are dented or damaged and need to be fixed, the amount of layers and other variables. Your looking at $600 to $1000 for a set to be done!
How much does it cost for all 4 wheels?
$800 to $1200 depending on the wheels
My local rim shop told me 2k to do my set of rims for my 09 Audi A5 in black chrome. Never knew there was that much in the process. Question??? Do the heat affects the density of the rims ???
That’s way to expensive
Hello there all I'm posting this in hopes to find a source that is sent afraid to keep what our country has to offer is free
So here's the thing you be got iraw black chrome at my disposal and also several other precious metals so obviously I'm looks g for a buyer that can have my oar processed as well as buy some or trade part per part it's an option so hot me up fast an❤
Professional=hot flocking
What color codes are those ? I work as a paint prepper at concept coating Fresno California. And I want to black chrome some enkei rims I bought
How much does it cost to do a set
$800
What lexus rims are these specifically.
cost per rim
It’s about $200-$250 per rim!
Amazing results but I can’t believe he’s spraying with no respirator…..big danger.
스프레이 증착 - 건식 증착 - 스프레이 증착.
PVD 방식은 중앙에 hcd를 이용한건지..
타겟을 이용한건지 헷갈리네
I have a kawasaki ninja h2. The black chrome on the plastics is a nightmare. Can this be applied? I know u said u can do plastics but just wondering. Would bondo or fiberglass interefere w this?
Good question, I can ask and follow up.
I will give you a like if you can tell me how much it cost. I want this on my Cadillac.
$800 to $1000 depending on wheels etc.
@@carswithsonduren How much for a motorcycle rear rim, 17 inch?
@@peterinfante6187 Do you idiots realize that this channel belongs to a UA-camr and not the shop owner!
Enormous amount of work, but the results are nice. Price?
Thanks Johnny! It’s about $1000 for the full set of wheels ✌️
@@carswithsonduren Totally worth it. Will consider getting this done on my QX70. Happy New Year to you.
happy new year Johnny!
Wjat are your recommendations on cleaning them
With a Boar's hair brush something that won't scratch the finish and just use a simple wheel cleaner nothing acidic. Definitely would want to ceramic coat the wheels if you can as well to make it even easier to clean with just a pressure washer.
Hi, I found your sputtering cathode is very old and traditional cylinder model (indirect cooling ). In nowadays, we use planar sputtering cathodes which with direct cooling design, so the target has a perfect cooling channel. If you are interested, let me know.