You covered a lot of topics in this vid, I think people should do whatever makes you happy but a year from now you'll want to do something completely different. Also you look super cute in this vid and you have a very cool cat.
Love the patch pants! I never thought of this as a DIY! If you can't wash them, hang them up for a few days, airing them out until any odor disappears! Do this for any clothes (but hand/machine wash if visibly dirty) saves on coin! 🖤🖤
Er.. On the Metalhead thing, ACDC aren't a metal band, they're a Hard Rock band but yes, generally if you want to be genuinely seen as whatever it is you're claiming to be, specifically music-based scenes in this case, you have to actually look into and listen to the music. Obviously people can dress however they want but the moment you start claiming to be something that is defined through a music-based subculture, you should at least have knowledge of some of the music and to know if you truly enjoy it or not. If one is not wanting to do that, that's fine but they should stick with calling themselves "alternative" (or "Alt") as that is the wide term to describe someone who is not into conventional standards and is not as much a loaded term compared to more specific music-defined subcultures. And the cool thing about actually learning about these specific subcultures be them punk, goth, emo, or metal is that at least compared to when I was a teenager in the early to mid 2000s, it's a lot easier to find the music since you have places like UA-cam and Bandcamp to truly immerse yourself in a genre of music. When I was a teen, the internet archive of music wasn't as extensive yet and your best bet was going either going to record stores and listening to the demo music or knowing someone who knew the obscure music that you were interested in and could point you in the right direction to learn more. So people definitely should take advantage of how things are now. And special note, you don't need to know every single thing about a band in order to count. You don't have to know every member's name and when they formed (but it's fun to learn lol), just knowing some songs (doesn't have to be all) is the only thing you really need. Also as far as goth goes, as someone who is into the scene and has been for about 16 years now, I have to admit that I agree that knowing some of the lesser known goth bands is always nice and personally makes me think the person is actually into the music vs someone who seems to just be trying to get into it for attention. The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy, and Bauhaus are the big 4 and to me, if one only cites these bands and that's the extent of what they've listened to then yeah, it does give me some suspicion (but not if the person is new to the scene). But throw in some other bands like Alien Sex Fiend, Merciful Nuns, Fields of The Nephilim, and/or Neila Invo and I tend to get into the mindset that the person is actually exploring the genre for what it has to offer.beyond the big 4. Also the reason why we say that fashion isn't as important is because 1, when you see how a lot of goth bands presented themselves, they were not decked out to to the nines in decadent clothing as most musicians tended to dress in casual clothes or clothes with DIY and 2, it can make it very easy for newcomers to start obsessing about how they need to look a certain way at all times lest they feel like they can't really be goth. So while there definitely is a look that is associated with goth, it's important to remind the people within it that it's not mandatory. And personally, I've run into way more people who look like stereotypical goths but don't actually listen to the music (and tend to confuse and conflate Industrial and synth pop music as "goth music") vs people in the scene with more toned down looks that actually listen to the music so that should say something lol On the politics things, all I'll say is this. Being open-minded is one thing but don't have your mind be so open that it starts to fall out and you give validation to things that make absolutely no sense when you apply critical thinking. Make of that what you will.
One perspective is someone seeing you as a "poser" or wannabes. The opposite is the person experiencing "imposter syndrome". Anyone who is getting into something, like Goth for example, will always start as a beginner needing to learn more. If it is something they end up finding interesting then they stick with it! These terms just act to diminish beginners sense of power and self worth. Using these terms act as a form of "gate keeping" with only certain people being allow to participate while blocking others. 🖤🖤🌹🌹🌹🖤🖤
just stumbled on your channel, new sub!! i am an elder emo, but in texas and having a corporate job i really toned it down to conform. can you please show how you did your makeup in this video? pretty please??
@@avampirechick740 i m sorry. i wont be able to come because i prolapsed my urethra on a john deere mover last summer,, and my doctor told me not to go to rocknroll shows anymore. sometimes people accidentally touch your penis in moshpits and i just cant risk it especially with all the metals stuff happening currently do you do acdc tnt and highways to hell covers though?
@@avampirechick740 i wont be able to come because i prolapsed my urethra on john deere mover last summer and my doctor told me not to go to rocknroll shows anymore. especially with all the metals stuff happening people touch your pines, cannot risk it in the moshpit can you do acdc highway to hell cover though?
@@avampirechick740 Adorbs!😍 I love cats 🐱 Been talking to my family about getting a new one since my black cat 🐈⬛ Elmo passed away, as well as our “mini lion” 🦁 (fat orange cat) Chubbs 😢 Have you heard good things about British shorthair? I thought about adopting, like we have in the past. But I’m a little bit obsessed with the British Shorthair look… Hope you and the kitty are doing well! ❤️😀
@@pears0094 all british shorthairs i met were very shy but i dont know much about them since they're not a popular breed here :'D already was hard getting a siamese
@@avampirechick740 Yea. I’ll have to do some more research. I know Siamese cats are the bomb! A good friend of mine who lives in San Francisco had a Siamese cat. “Ferdinand” was his name. He was incredibly smart and almost like a little dog! You could take him on walks and he learned to do tricks on command! It was pretty amazing!!! 🤩 I’m assuming you’re from an Eastern European country? One of the Slavic speaking countries?
If you don't try to define yourself then you have freedom to change and have more in your life than you would if trying to stick to the rules of a certain scene I guess? Just listen to what you want, dress how you want, watch what you want, learn what you want. As long as you're not causing any harm to yourself and others, you're all good is what I think.
(Sorry thought you said it on a different video) but basically this is just for people that 100% want to fit into labels but this isnt obligatory at all do what you want
Why would you want to hang around people you have to pretend around? I guess that's why I don't /haven't labelled myself, I don't claim to be into, say, games around gamers, so when you don't know much you don't have to pretend. I dress in a variety of ways but when I dress more Gothic people don't tend to accuse me of not being an actual Goth,or define it on what music I listen to.
I define myself as punk simply because of my lifestyle i play in a punk band most of my friends are punks i mostly listen to punk music and i have the mindset of one i have a strong sense of justice and grew up a minority i go to protests and so on so i wouldn't say i pretend :'D And youre right labels just exist for people who 100% identify with some kind of scene if you dont then you dont have to use a label just be yourself
@@avampirechick740 I'd say you are punk. Oh yeah I was going to ask if you're a singer? Can't remember if it was this video or another one you mentioned being in a band.
based politics yay. Wish i was politically based at 19, i became based at 20 lol. I listen to 21st century goth bands (mainly dark wave eg Twin Tribes), EBM and punk the most.
instructions unclear, called someone else a complete poser
cat just chillin
the cat purring so adorable
You covered a lot of topics in this vid, I think people should do whatever makes you happy but a year from now you'll want to do something completely different. Also you look super cute in this vid and you have a very cool cat.
At the end of the day yes it really is about doing what you want
i love the cat... that is all
Love the patch pants! I never thought of this as a DIY! If you can't wash them, hang them up for a few days, airing them out until any odor disappears! Do this for any clothes (but hand/machine wash if visibly dirty) saves on coin! 🖤🖤
This channel is like taking things I love and has a lolcow talking about them
Just realized this incoherent rambling is 28 minutes long
Do all of your misconceptions on musical sub cultures come directly from tik tok?
Real life experience in the scene
@@avampirechick740 you get called a poser all the time so you made this video
Er.. On the Metalhead thing, ACDC aren't a metal band, they're a Hard Rock band but yes, generally if you want to be genuinely seen as whatever it is you're claiming to be, specifically music-based scenes in this case, you have to actually look into and listen to the music. Obviously people can dress however they want but the moment you start claiming to be something that is defined through a music-based subculture, you should at least have knowledge of some of the music and to know if you truly enjoy it or not. If one is not wanting to do that, that's fine but they should stick with calling themselves "alternative" (or "Alt") as that is the wide term to describe someone who is not into conventional standards and is not as much a loaded term compared to more specific music-defined subcultures.
And the cool thing about actually learning about these specific subcultures be them punk, goth, emo, or metal is that at least compared to when I was a teenager in the early to mid 2000s, it's a lot easier to find the music since you have places like UA-cam and Bandcamp to truly immerse yourself in a genre of music. When I was a teen, the internet archive of music wasn't as extensive yet and your best bet was going either going to record stores and listening to the demo music or knowing someone who knew the obscure music that you were interested in and could point you in the right direction to learn more. So people definitely should take advantage of how things are now.
And special note, you don't need to know every single thing about a band in order to count. You don't have to know every member's name and when they formed (but it's fun to learn lol), just knowing some songs (doesn't have to be all) is the only thing you really need.
Also as far as goth goes, as someone who is into the scene and has been for about 16 years now, I have to admit that I agree that knowing some of the lesser known goth bands is always nice and personally makes me think the person is actually into the music vs someone who seems to just be trying to get into it for attention. The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy, and Bauhaus are the big 4 and to me, if one only cites these bands and that's the extent of what they've listened to then yeah, it does give me some suspicion (but not if the person is new to the scene). But throw in some other bands like Alien Sex Fiend, Merciful Nuns, Fields of The Nephilim, and/or Neila Invo and I tend to get into the mindset that the person is actually exploring the genre for what it has to offer.beyond the big 4.
Also the reason why we say that fashion isn't as important is because 1, when you see how a lot of goth bands presented themselves, they were not decked out to to the nines in decadent clothing as most musicians tended to dress in casual clothes or clothes with DIY and 2, it can make it very easy for newcomers to start obsessing about how they need to look a certain way at all times lest they feel like they can't really be goth. So while there definitely is a look that is associated with goth, it's important to remind the people within it that it's not mandatory. And personally, I've run into way more people who look like stereotypical goths but don't actually listen to the music (and tend to confuse and conflate Industrial and synth pop music as "goth music") vs people in the scene with more toned down looks that actually listen to the music so that should say something lol
On the politics things, all I'll say is this. Being open-minded is one thing but don't have your mind be so open that it starts to fall out and you give validation to things that make absolutely no sense when you apply critical thinking. Make of that what you will.
Well done, The music is a biggie,you connect to the collective Goth mind set there..Lovely cat you have there,so sweet!
One perspective is someone seeing you as a "poser" or wannabes. The opposite is the person experiencing "imposter syndrome". Anyone who is getting into something, like Goth for example, will always start as a beginner needing to learn more. If it is something they end up finding interesting then they stick with it! These terms just act to diminish beginners sense of power and self worth. Using these terms act as a form of "gate keeping" with only certain people being allow to participate while blocking others. 🖤🖤🌹🌹🌹🖤🖤
just stumbled on your channel, new sub!! i am an elder emo, but in texas and having a corporate job i really toned it down to conform. can you please show how you did your makeup in this video? pretty please??
Already got a video on it :)
You are well knowledged by experience, Love the hello Kitty btw
It's like a guilty pleasure after all the edge
@@avampirechick740Yeah just don't listen to those who see you any different, Cause you're perfect the way you are
im on benadryl
Crazy
@@avampirechick740 its a long way to the top if you wanna rocknroll
@@gdhjdnsjsjdj i mean i already play in a band were having a tour next summer lol
@@avampirechick740 i m sorry. i wont be able to come because i prolapsed my urethra on a john deere mover last summer,, and my doctor told me not to go to rocknroll shows anymore. sometimes people accidentally touch your penis in moshpits and i just cant risk it especially with all the metals stuff happening currently do you do acdc tnt and highways to hell covers though?
@@avampirechick740 i wont be able to come because i prolapsed my urethra on john deere mover last summer and my doctor told me not to go to rocknroll shows anymore. especially with all the metals stuff happening people touch your pines, cannot risk it in the moshpit can you do acdc highway to hell cover though?
New subscribe! You're so pretty and the kitty is so cute!
Thank you :D
im making a random patch skirt from write light skirt, looks poser but im not in any subculture
I have a white punk project myself scared to wear it out cuz it will get dirty fast :'D
That cat is so cute! 🥰 Is it a Siamese?
Yes, it is! :DD
@@avampirechick740 Adorbs!😍 I love cats 🐱 Been talking to my family about getting a new one since my black cat 🐈⬛ Elmo passed away, as well as our “mini lion” 🦁 (fat orange cat) Chubbs 😢
Have you heard good things about British shorthair?
I thought about adopting, like we have in the past. But I’m a little bit obsessed with the British Shorthair look…
Hope you and the kitty are doing well! ❤️😀
@@pears0094 all british shorthairs i met were very shy but i dont know much about them since they're not a popular breed here :'D already was hard getting a siamese
@@avampirechick740 Yea. I’ll have to do some more research. I know Siamese cats are the bomb! A good friend of mine who lives in San Francisco had a Siamese cat. “Ferdinand” was his name. He was incredibly smart and almost like a little dog! You could take him on walks and he learned to do tricks on command! It was pretty amazing!!! 🤩
I’m assuming you’re from an Eastern European country? One of the Slavic speaking countries?
@@pears0094 yeah im latvian :) my cat is interesting hes very shy and timid but overly affectionate to me
If you don't try to define yourself then you have freedom to change and have more in your life than you would if trying to stick to the rules of a certain scene I guess?
Just listen to what you want, dress how you want, watch what you want, learn what you want. As long as you're not causing any harm to yourself and others, you're all good is what I think.
(Sorry thought you said it on a different video) but basically this is just for people that 100% want to fit into labels but this isnt obligatory at all do what you want
Nah that makes sense! Thankyou for replying ☺️🙏
I love that cat. She/he’s so cute.
Fr hes the cutest
Why would you want to hang around people you have to pretend around? I guess that's why I don't /haven't labelled myself, I don't claim to be into, say, games around gamers, so when you don't know much you don't have to pretend.
I dress in a variety of ways but when I dress more Gothic people don't tend to accuse me of not being an actual Goth,or define it on what music I listen to.
I define myself as punk simply because of my lifestyle i play in a punk band most of my friends are punks i mostly listen to punk music and i have the mindset of one i have a strong sense of justice and grew up a minority i go to protests and so on so i wouldn't say i pretend :'D
And youre right labels just exist for people who 100% identify with some kind of scene if you dont then you dont have to use a label just be yourself
@@avampirechick740 I'd say you are punk. Oh yeah I was going to ask if you're a singer? Can't remember if it was this video or another one you mentioned being in a band.
@@saintessa yeah i am im in depustutes as the vocalist
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based politics yay. Wish i was politically based at 19, i became based at 20 lol.
I listen to 21st century goth bands (mainly dark wave eg Twin Tribes), EBM and punk the most.
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Im a metalhead and dislike slipknot,korn, soad and pretty much all nu-metal. I also dislike 3 of the big 4.. not once have i ever worn a band shirt
lol what
Did you even watch the whole video through? Its just tips on what to research
EVERY FUCKING VIDEO SAME EXACT REACTION I FEEL LIKE I’VE STUMBLED UPON A TREASURE TROVE OF A CHANNEL