she's fast: the adultification of hey arnold.
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The fact that people online were SO comfortable calling a 13yo girl a “thot” is indicative of how easy it is for people to get away with disrespecting black girls and women
Exactly!! Like, yes I know she's fictional, but that just still never felt okay to me regardless. I feel like people will often direct this behavior towards fictional characters and then use it being fiction as some sort of justification for how its somehow not hurting real people, but like... it does still hurt real people, because they're clearly pouring out all of their real life biases about real life people of that gender/ethnicity/age/etc.
@@feliciaroseantonia I second this.
That part! People need to leave black girls and women alone.
@@suzygirl1843 They give Amber way too much and dont keep the same energy with omni man
Sir, that's a child
I'm so glad you keep this channel going. I feel like black girls get labeled as bitter or reaching when they bring up obvious issues. 🥺🥺
Let the truth be known honey! 💯
Exactly so... 💯
Sexualization of young girls/boys (Blacks, Caucasians, Asians, etc.) aside which is still problematic because middle school girls should not be dressed like that, compared to the girl from Summer Love (the girl's name is Summer) who was a complete bitch, at least Chloe felt remorse for hurting Gerald's feelings and taking advantage of her crush.
Fr.
I feel like Code Name: Kids Next Door had alright diversity. All the characters had different nationalities and ethnicities, they had different body types, and the characters of color weren’t stereotyped. Infinity Train also had diverse characters, and even had a trans-coded character
All such amazing shows, only to get either cancelled or shut down bc it "just wasn't hitting" 😤
@@simsgirlgem what do you mean
@@simsgirlgem "pushing agendas" having lgbt people and people of color included in the show?
get the hell out of here with your shit.
@@simsgirlgem This makes absolutely no sense. You're blaming She Ra for being diverse while...trying to praise a show for diversity? Make it make sense
Kids next door had a lil stereotyping the sassy black girl and the soft submissive Asian girl look it up on all the tropes wiki
High schoolers not dating middle schoolers shouldnt be a fight because you're right. One is starting puberty while the other is making the transition into adulthood.
8th and 9th are not that far apart
@@theman9048 I think they're meaning like... 6th-8th/6th-9th+ is reallyyyy bad
@@MPREGCOOKING it's 2 years. Look the rules we have right now are sufficient. 4 years apart and past puberty and they are fine.
yea, as a 16 year old I'd never date a 13 year old
heck, I highly doubt I'd go with someone my age, most are not ready for a relationship, few teens have gone through a self-reflection phase to actually have enough responsibility to create a stable, healthy platonic/romantic relationship. Heck, that's something that many adults struggle with too. Children and young teens should not be in a serious relationship, especially with older people, even if that older person actually has no sick motives, it will lead to a huge imbalance and a parent-older sibling/child dynamic, which is not normal for a romantic relationship
Guess that's why the schools are usually separated.
I was built like that as a middle schooler, but I surely was NOT dressing like that! I hate how we’re sexualized in tv and movies. It’s sickening and creepy
I also hate how this literal child is making ‘sultry’/sexual glances at Jamio (however you spell it). If she’s supposed to be a middle or grade school CHILD. Why did the writers write her like that.
Not only that, but they know their audience. The little black girls with darker skin and more prominent features who watched this will try to imitate what they see. Children are impressionable and they copy what they’re told is okay. So why would someone go out of their way to show this as appropriate behavior for a young girl?
Why does your Elmo has teeth?
@@veneciamora5687 i think there was an episode in Elmos World where elmo was talking about teeth, lol
Sad truth is, it's the same in real life. The amount of 13yr online seeking for attention andd amount of thrist comments under their post is disgusting
I was (dressed. But not built.). That was 2003 tho. Many of us were trying to look like Lindsay Lohan / Ashlee Simpson. 7th grade girls (it was a group of three white girls tho) were piercing their belly buttons with safety pins in my cooking class. It caused such a stir. And probably infections. It was probably different for the black girls. I think they mostly wore hoodies and t-shirts. But we had like 3 white girls in this group, who were kind of like our Junior High Plastics. They led the style at our school, which was the low rise flare jeans, and barely croppy babydoll tees.
I developed a bit early and it caused me to have a hatred for wearing skirts, short, and dresses at school. Two things I remember and forever will: First thing was when i decided to wear shorts and these two boys kept staring and pointing at my legs. The second was on a free dress day where i wore a sweater dress with stockings and i heard two boys behind me betting to touch my ass until i turned around and stopped that.
THIS is why i didn't start feeling comfortable dressing more feminine until i went to college. i hated being oversexualized as a kid.
@@harriyanna Its ridiculous. I had to stop taking out the damn trash when i was like 10 cause my creepy ass neighbors would be staring at me in my short pajamas. I'm 22 and just got comfortable with wearing whatever I want. People are sick.
@@Bunny-wm6gz that really sucks. I hope you had some good friends and not everyone was a POS like that. I'm glad you are comfortable wearing what you want and sucks it took so long. Thank you for sharing.
I am a guy and I was sexually harassed in middle school because my facial hair developed at a young age and I was bullied aka mockingly sexually harassed because of it. Idk if it makes you feel better but you're not alone. I'm always conscious if I look remotely feminine or if anyones staring at my ass. It's kinda paranoid. It's not as bad as what you guys went through so yeah idk why I brought it up. This must be normal for women especially for your lives.
Thank you. I still have some body image issues, but i also have a great mother and friends who help me through it. I'm sorry you had to go through such a horrible ordeal, and I hope you can move on from it. You seem like an amazing guy so I hope you have great friends helping you as well and that you go on to live an amazing life 💖💖
god quarantine has been a savior to me, before id never dress in any way feminine i didnt even have a single skirt in fear of this. now ive became more comfortable with my body and dressing feminine. being out of school has really improved my self esteem and mental health, and that says something.
Black girl need proper representation where they get to be just children. This video reminds me of a video addressing the misogynoir of strangers things for how Erica wasn't written as a child, but instead as the sassy black girl while her brother was written better
Exactly
Even tho I felt like they kinda gave up on Lucas in season 3
I adore stranger things but that doesn’t stop me from seeing problems in its writing when it comes to its black characters. I have noticed some stereotyping in the writing aswell so dvexjgefhkfekge
even lucas was written horribly. his characterization is so unorganized. season 1, he’s serious and mature and in season 2-3 he’s some weird, semi-comic relief who makes weird jokes and he’s also a bad boyfriend and it’s just super confusing and strange.
They definitely did that with a character called Trini from Molly of Denali! A show all about Native American representation and teaching kids about Alaska life and how to do research. You can check that one out.
there literally is its not about what you always want
Bro, I remember I wore red nail polish on my toes and my aunt told me I was 'acting grown'. Like what? We can't even look pretty without people constantly sexualizing us and it's getting creepy. If you are an adult and you view a child wearing a certain color of nail polish as grown, you got issues to solve 😐
I remember my mama didn't allow me and my sisters to wear red lipstick, black nail polish, red polish as well, and also skirts without leggings, so I understand. Along with the grown men, you have mamas, grandmas, and aunties sexualizing and victim-blaming young girls that they are supposed to protect. Then they wanna claim it's for "protection". If you want to protect young girls, keep creepy men, women, or just folks in general away from them and teach them to open up about any situation that made them uncomfortable instead of debunking them. A lot of parents get upset when their children grow away from them, disowning them even, when they were a factor of and influenced childhood trauma. The Black community fail so much in this aspect because we black folks are used to our pain and suffering being ignored and not mattering, which is false. It all matters. In order for a change, we need to start caring for our own as well.
how is completing a child looking "grown" making anything sexual?
@@jewel8201 Do you not understand context clues? When they're talking about being fast and looking grown they are talking about you acting promiscuous. That simple.
not rly. I've been told I'm mature but it could mean anything. not always referring to sexual stuff. but aight
@@jewel8201 But it was referring to sexual stuff in the context my aunt was talking in. I hear my family talk about my cousins who were acting "Fast" for their age or grown. I know how my family talks and that's what my aunt meant so
I hate that the only response I've ever heard from school admins when children bring up issues of assault and harassment was to blame the children being harassed. And they absolutely view little white girls as more "innocent" than brown and black girls!! It's extra insidious to see how it shows up in media literally directed at children, like it really is a cycle :/ Thank you for making this video ❤
This, but also the girls who dress like “rebels” if you will.
I dunno, catholic school were always seen as the lewdest as they do some crazy shit. At least that how I remember it back in my day.
@@suzygirl1843 Same, like i think they mainly deserve prison, like a life sentence, but seriously what they did was understandable, like they’re not a innocent victim to a murder. They abused someone and faced the consequences of what they did to that person, they should’ve known that some abused people are going to end up doing that.
PEOPLE DO THAT?????
I would say The Backyardigans, they were colorful animals but more than half of them had black names, and then there was Pablo too. Not to mention the actual show was created by a black woman we love and value that here on the pirate ship!
Edit: That part, about them blaming you and the other girls for what happened to y'all at your middle school is so dumb, like as a black dude myself it pisses me off they always blame the girls for piggish behavior of boys, like the reason it's like that is because people don't teach boys mannerism and morals when it comes to treating people right :/
Like if you're gonna tell girls to be ladies, teach the boys to be gentlemen too it's not that hard!
So sorry you went through that Captain, I promise in the future as a father when I have kids is to teach ALL my children to treat people with kindness, respect, and human decency. I've been loving your videos for awhile and you teach/do so stuff for the platform here. Best of wishes and good things in life from me, you're very much appreciated for what you do on here :)
My sisters and I loved The Backyardigans as kids I actually miss that show 🥺 I loved their dance at the end it was so cute!
this is such a nice comment
Finally a whole ass man.
That’s so true though! Everyone was all like “be a lady blah blah” but…why aren’t they teaching these boys respect?? That’s why most of them end up as wife beaters these days or disrespectful ass people.
It’s misogyny at its finest.
I’m all for teaching girls to act right, but it needs to stop being one sided. We can teach girls to act right, and also teach boys to do better.
As a child I too went through the whole cat calling by grown ass men, and being a bit more developed than others, obviously gaining some attention from my curves. They’re so quick to call a girl out for wearing a shirt with no sleeves, as of arms are the thing that’s gonna be perverse, but not teach people to stop acting up.
@@reptilequeen4720 I have one of the DVD’s of the Backyardigans, but I don’t watch it because I have outgrown the show. Also Castaways and Into The Thick of are great songs from that show!
@@reptilequeen4720 Yesss!
People calling a literal child a thot is disgusting. I see so many people do that shit with real life kids, and it makes me fume. Chloe was done dirty by the writers and she’s just a child. She’s 13, she’s not a thot.
Yeah, at 13 I was still running around chasing june bugs and beetles and that was pretty much my biggest worry besides school ☠
its normal for kids to have crushes though
@@oooh19 What does this have to do with the original comment? She still ain't a "thot" even if she does have a crush.
(or is that not what you're saying? I have a hard time interpreting this comment.)
@@hyperboles6563 well yea she's not doing anything wrong for having a crush; it's normal for kids to have a crush.
@@oooh19 oh ok thanks for clearing that up- and yes you are absolutely right
Any child who says they're mature for their age is obviously not mature for their age. Children with maturity have enough maturity to realize that they're children, and aren't in any hurry to growup.
omg this was spot on
This was almost a serve…except some children are in situations where they HAVE to mature faster, not everyone has a life where being young is a good thing.
@@alexcastro7665 Still never met one who actually says that and is one, those that actually are and were forced to be such don't flaunt it.
Mature kids dont want to be the mature kid. Ignorance is a bliss.
I mean, not always true, im excited to grow up, and certain parts of my brain are more matured than other parts, mainly because of my past and certain things that happened, but what you said is true in most cases
Slightly Unrelated but:
What is it with shows/cartoons making little black girls to be the caretakers/smart ones of their group? Why are show writers constantly playing into the ‘mammy’ stereotype, and why can’t black girls be wild and free like their white counterparts without being labeled as ‘ghetto’ or ‘ratchet’?
You totally touched on something that's bothered me that I couldn't put into words, it's incredibly annoying to see either sassy or caretaker rarely any inbetween
Cause y’all label it like that
I feel like it's partially the writers trying to be not-racist by "defying" racist stereotypes by making the black girl mature and responsible...by, yeah, essentially falling into the Mammy role.
@@boredasf4856 just say you don’t care about black girls and go
this!!
It’s disturbing how people online had so many nasty things to say about Chloe and not about the people who wrote her character.
Chloe is an antagonist not every character needs to be treated with dignity and respect.
@@GreenPhoenix91 Yeah but what possessed the writers to make a child such an antagonist? Why would they make a literal child be a stereotype of an overly sexual girl? Young girls who act the way Chloe does are usually going through something. It is weird for the writers to write a young girl in such a s3xual Jezebal like way. Especially since they make her a villian to boot. That type of stuff deserves a serious side eye from the public because what are the writers trying to say?🤨
It was a good ep it was a story it shows two brother that never let a girl get between them, etc
@@imnugget8085 True, but why did it have to be so weird? Why did the girl have to be a promiscuous child? That isn't a little weird to you? Especially since people barely comment on how good it is the brothers didn't let a girl get between them. Most people are more interested in the opportunity to call a child out her name for behavior that actually needs to be looked into. It's concerning that when it comes to Chloe instead of wondering why she acts the way she acts and discussing ways for her to better herself before she gets herself hurt people instead take this as a chance to insult and belittle. It just makes me wonder what those same people would do in real life if they came across a girl like her in real life.
@Galianie Delphonse honestly dude when I was a kid I had a classmate at 12 a girl get pregnant by a dude 2 grades higher and 3 other girls in like 5-6th grade were fooling around so it really did add up to me when I was a kid cause we'll they were girls like that
Hearing people sl*t shame a child was so disturbing. Hearing about how you and a bunch of other black girls were sexualized and victim-blamed as children was honestly heartbreaking. I'm sorry this was such a difficult video to make, but thank you for making it. Sending love
It's just awful, they're kids not adults they need to be having fun and playing
Hearing all those people call Chloe fast and a thot really made me uncomfortable. It’s nasty they were comfortable saying that. The way they wrote Chloe was terrible and I’m so glad people are talking about why it’s wrong. Black women and girls need to stop being treated like sex symbols. We are human and just want to be treated as such.
Same thing happened with me, grown ass men would look at me in a sexual way from elementary through high school. It's freaking sad and disrespectful, like I couldn't really enjoy my childhood a lot because I had to be guarded and skeptical of legit everyone. Thank you for addressing this major problem.
I'm so sorry that its so normalized now it really is hurtful I started noticing it way more aswell when I was in middle school im a sophmore now it was obvious I was a child like im literally at their neices birthday party as a friend but simply because your curvier they treat you as an object.Women and girls are more then their bodies they need to be treated that way.
Ya older people are seeing my friend that way and she doesn’t see the problems with it, even though like some of them are like grown men, and it’s clear all this has caused her to see herself as an adult too and I find that worrying, because she could get hurt and I don’t want her to. I think the normalization of this crap is disgusting and disrespectful and I blame it partially for her having this troubling “I’m mature and don’t need anyone looking after me, boys staring at me is just fine!” mindset.
@Chiaki Nanami felt that I remember I was waiting in line at subway and a man in line next to me kept inching closer and closer to me literally staring at my chest. I was wearing a sweater but I have an ample bust and was underage and I just felt so uncomfortable by the whole thing
@NitroFairyWing she knows what I wear isn’t an invitation for men to come at me. She’s been a victim to a lot sexual related stuff and would never blame me or what I’m wearing. She does it because she know men like to prey on women, especially when young. I’m 17 now and she still worries for me because the way I’ve been looked at by men since middle school. She has always told me that it’s not my fault and that it’s men. I didn’t mean to make it seem like she was victim blaming, she’s just watching out for me cuz she sees how men look at me and what she’s been thru. I meant it like she’s telling me to edit my clothes because she knows men are weird and can do some disgusting stuff. She’s very supportive of me and stands against SA/SH:
I'm so sorry Arielle. We should change how people treat black girls they're children, they need to play and have fun
When I was 13, there was this sex crime that happened in my middle school (my school districts are connected with elementary and middle schools in one building). One of the 5 boys got expelled for sexual assault on a 13 year old girl, and the rest were suspended. This incident happened almost 10 years ago, and I was still playing with my lps toys and watching cartoons as a 13 year-old black girl.
I'm really glad that you're addressing this issue here, cause I don't know what would happen to me if I was pressured into being "mature".
Is the saddest shizz ever
That's some scandalous stuff. Those boys are definitely registered sex offenders rn.
This kind of stuff is super scary. I can't imagine having it happening to me or even hearing of this kind of situation, especially considering the fact that minorities are always blamed for discrimination, crimes, etc. against them. Hope you're feeling okay! :)
@@mabuhayimplottingyourdemis423 Yeah, and even if they're young that boy should've been registered then and there. Women shouldn't have to go through these crimes, let alone kids. It could be harsh, but the fact that there was a *13 year old girl* that this boy assaulted is NOT okay.
i'm not black, but i'm latina, and I can totally relate to this. Latina women and black woman really share a lot of stereotypes and experiences. Catcalls while wearing uniforms? everyday. It's just ugly, and sad.
For newer shows, Craig of the Creek is pretty good. It has a pretty good diverse cast, lots of characters of all sizes and shapes, and it's just adorable
Also adorable magical girl who has the cutest pigtails
@@dcscruz2970 OMG yes Sparkle Cadet she is so adorable and there was a part in the Capture the flag event that made me so sad for her
@@chteretreeart if I don’t get a spin off of her to fix the mess that the magical girl genre is thanks to weird sailor moon I’ll lose it. We got casa grande why not her?
I LOVE Craig of the Creek for this reason!
@@dcscruz2970 Cadet Sparkle is the best character in the show and no one can change my mind!
But seriously why was Chloe drawn in those poses?
adultification.
One children’s show that has good diversity is The Puzzle Place. It was a 90s PBS Kids show about six puppet kids and the problems they face. It has a black guy, a Chinese girl, a Mexican girl, a Jewish girl, a Norwegian guy and a Native American guy. It also introduced a deaf kid and a kid in a wheelchair
I remember that show! It was one of my favorites as a kid.
One PBS Kids show that I’ve seen that I think is pretty special is Molly of Denali. It’s pretty recent, but it’s about the adventures of this Alaskan girl named Molly and her adventures in - of course - Alaska. They have a perfect balance between educating the audience about Alaskan culture and just having the kids go on random adventures.
yessss i used to LOVE this show
Woah. Major whoosh of sudden memories. Thank you, I had forgotten the name of that show.
I loved it
i hate when little kids are like "im mature for my age" bc no. most people who actually ARE mature for their age were forced to grow up too fast or was forced into a more mature position in their childhood, speaking from experience. being mature for your age is NOT a good thing, so can we stop praising kids who ARE mature for their age, stop letting little kids think that its good, & let them jus be kids??
meh
A bunch of people told me to be Mature even tho I was young a teen back then ,_,( still am 17 but I was 13/14 when it happened)
Agreed
@@Natalie-fz5ww i said MOST people, majority of the time they were forced into that role, but its true some people are jus naturally more mature
Yea but some people are wise. That’s what they mean. However some people are fake and act a certain way in front of people
I felt that rant in my SOUL!!!! The fact that young girls are blamed for their being hyper sexualized is beyond disgusting.
I agree it’s so f*cked up the writers did Chloe so wrong
I had no idea this even was happing in the first place gosh that so horrible I'm not black myself but I just had no idea that just so upsetting:( why ..ugh I don't understand certain people>=(
@@kimberlybogert7031 and it be your own parents and family too smh
ah yes its your fault someone cant stop thinking negatve
And then they gave her “Sleepy” eyes
Just like the Karen’s said about the bratz dolls
that's why i blackout her eyes in the thumbnail.
@@harriyanna every kids show was a mess the backyardigans slayed though the irl drawings were so spot on but creepy hey Arnold wasn’t my thing
@@rodriguezdominique4755 wait what's wrong with the sleepy eyes
@@katanaonika816 it’s a sexual design and animation
That's a screwed up story, I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's disgusting. Grown men lusting after kids is gross, and it's abhorrent when the kids get blamed for it. I didn't know it happens more to black girls, that's some super gross and insidious racism.
It happened to me when I was younger... Had to avoid them. No one helped me and I only helped myself.
@@dragonempress8367 that's awful, I'm so sorry.
I'm fortunate enough to have never faced such issues and I continue to pray I don't but my heart goes out to all the girls who had no one to help them
I never even realized Nadene was black. I was a big Hey Arnold fan too, it’s messed up that they didn’t have any visibly black girls other than Timberly. Btw, you look just like Taranee 😭
i get told i look like taranee all the time lmaoooo
Meanwhile there’s me instantly remembering Rhonda’s name, but having no idea who Nadine even was
The whole time I thought Nadine was white 🥴
Thank you for talking about adultification of young black girls. Me and other young black girls have been sexualy abused in our past. ( I was sexually assaulted when I was 8.....)
Even if young girls develop early, were reveling clothes, and or "ACT FAST." It does not mean you sexualize young girls. I was and still am busty and male peers, other older men, and strangers would stare, look, and comment about my breast. It's really traumatic. I can't even trust male teachers and peers.
Furreal. I’m in high school and there’s this one white male teacher that ALWAYS stares at the black girls in the class (me and some other girl). I always wonder what he’s thinking. Tbh, I really DON’T even want to know. He gives me the creeps and makes me feel HIGHLY uncomfortable.
Hey Arnold was so weird anyway in that these kids acted like grown ass adults. I really used to forget that they were only grade schoolers
Like they were doing long division with decimals! I didn’t do that till I was in fifth grade.
@@MeMarcusTheCreator they are 5th graders lol
@@alize0623 they were fourth graders in the series. They were fifth graders in the jungle movie.
@@MeMarcusTheCreator 4th grade learns long division too, though in cities.
It's an issue with a lot of shows aimed at children. Children are boring so they have to age them up so they can be interesting
The original Winx Club has excellent diversity and character writing. Especially with Aisha, who’s appearance was actually based on Beyoncé and had a balanced personality. A tomboyish princess who has a good head on her shoulders but still will kick ass.
Word Girl on PBS kids doesn't have any issues (at least none that I can remember).The main character is an intelligent, kind, and well-spoken teen black girl.
Would Becky/Wordgirl count as black since she's from the planet Lexicon? Or is it like a DBZ situation where she's an alien and her skin color doesn't reflect the same cultures/racial constructs that we have on planet Earth/IRL (i.e. Saiyans aren't Japanese but aliens that have Japanese features)?
@@rainyfristoe7682 her family's black and she blends in with them so we can call it a piccolo situation
Shit I always thought she was a brown latino!! Good to know!!
@@deandraacevedo6971 yeah I just think of her as afro latino tbh because of like Maya and Miguel where she originated from
True, but the show was also a disaster.
Also are we not gonna talk about how Chloe saying she was “mature for her age” is exactly, word for word, what pedophiles say in order to groom/manipulate kids??
ive been a fan of hey arnold for a long time, mostly because of the way they work to deconstruct characters and their preconceptions. but to see the way the writers wrote about black girls who are real life struggling with sexualization and extended her no empathy, while doing the most to empathize with completely made up scenarios.. definitely see where your pain and anger stems from with this. i dont comment on youtube videos but i really hope this video gets traction. thanks for doing what you do harriayana.
Exactly!!! I'm the same age as Harriyanna and I would also see these late night reruns around that same time period, so I saw this episode quite a few times as well. It always made me uncomfortable and even though I couldn't quite put it into words at first, something felt majorly off. I thought about it and I realized it felt off because the whole thing basically came off as like two brothers overcome their rivalry by just essentially mutually going "...Man, that little Black girl sure is awful, huh?", even though they didn't actually say it in those words or anything, but that's what it felt like.
I'm not Black myself but I did find myself sort of identifying with Chloe because I behaved almost just like her at that age. I felt like she got the short end of the stick from the writers, and thus even the characters did her dirty for it. They should have shown her nicer side and had her learn a lesson on not having to portray yourself as any type of way, namely acting "grown" or something, & that its simply okay to be as you are already; anyone else can really just go shove it, & you'll be fine in & of yourself.
I'm thankful I had people to tell me this at such age, but really, I worry about all the kids at that age going through this, namely those who are Black girls. It's clearly a systemic issue in places like schools & it needs to be dismantled.
When I heard "mature for her age", along with the animation with her body language when I first saw this, I got some other vibes. You know, like those kids who have been exposed to some very, very adult things since early childhood, (molestation/grooming/other dark stuff), and was forced to grow up really fast due to real life situations where they had to act as adults. Yes, they can still act like kids, but looking back on some kids I grew up with who ended up reporting their groomers/molesters, the behaviors add up.
Those are the vibes I got from this character. The same heebie jeebiness I got from that pedo woman who had an obvious crush on Arnold who just mysteriously went away in later episodes.
When men are like that it’s seen as normal but women get called out on it (but anyone shouldn’t get away with that!) on another note what about stranger things and Billy all those women looking at him? Well I guess he was 18 but still
Yeah
Looking back on hey arnold, a lot the characters acted like teenagers when they were really just 9 years old. And than in spongebob, spongebob is grown but acts childish. Kind of weird. When you watch other cartoons, the characters act their age. Shows like danny phantom, my life as a teenage robot, codename kids next door, teen titans, the fairly oddparents, and the grim adventures of billy & mandy for example.
That's something that had always confused me! cause as a kid, when I watched Hey Arnold I was the same age as the characters and I always thought they were suppose to be older(At least 12-13). NO ONE I knew in my city with kids that age ever let them that much freedom! Like shit I didn't start walking to school by myself till I was 13!
In spongebob I have met adult men and women who act as hyper as spongebob.
In defense of SpongeBob, he is actually canonically in his teens, 14 at the beginning of the series! I guess Mr. And Mrs. SquarePants really wanted him out of their house.
teen titans certainly didnt act like teens lol, but they had a lot of responsibilities. I also feel like I kept forgetting timmy was only 10.
Yeah I seriously thought they were preteens too til I found out they were only 9😅as for Spong bob well as some one who acts kinda kid like still sometimes but Im trying my best to be an adult too I not quite sure what to truly say cause on some days I be like Spong bob but some days I be Squidward (´-﹏-`；)just depends on my mood I guesse😅
I can't even imagine what it must be to go through all this as a black child, I was also heavily sexualized and mistreated by creeps all around me growing up and I'm white, so having to deal with it to such a systematic racist level... It's insane how controversial it is to defend kids from all of this, even more insane to specifically target black kids. I barely even remember this show and haven't watched it since I was very young so I don't really remember this episode, but the whole thing is so disturbing.
I can't say I'm surprised, part because Racism and because of how happy Nickelodion was to hire pedophiles like John K./Dan Schneider and foster things like that horrible Rugrats storyboard jam (personally I can't look at Rugrats at all without feeling sick after finding that out) but good god. We artists need to put our foot down and oppose these kinds of things not just irl (obviously) but in our workplace, we need to put an end to these storylines and protect our vulnerable audiences, and we need to sit with our children and discuss episodes like these and teach them better.
Hell yeah! I would never ever include anything so stupid as racism in my work and as a black girl, I will never help the strong black women/girl stereotype grow or any other harmful stereotypes for black girls/women. Hopefully more people start to support black women/girl writers and creators
Can you explain to me the issue about the rugrats thing? I never knew about the storyboard jam, or saw anything wrong with Rugrats. Everyone seemed to like that show from what I remember, and still do. I see people of all races and nationalities with Rugrats t-shirts on, and if you don't believe me, just go to a county fair in western part of Pennsylvania.
dude what? more white kids are abused by nuns and priest
@@jocelynecupcake yeah seconded. I have no idea what this "storyboard jam" was about. Can somebody clue me in or give me a video to reference since the phrasing is super vague. I'll try that phrasing but we'll see what I can come up with.
@@kraziiXIII i always thought Rugrats was the opposite of racism. They treated Susie like she was their friend, not like she was just "the black girl" in the group. She also was a good character because she took care of the babies and played with them, even though she was older. Even though Angelica and her got into fights, they still remained friends in the end
We need to do better at protecting black girls.
it always made me uncomfortable as a woman to see little black girls treated this way. i may not be black myself but i don't understand why people would ever treat a CHILD this way. just because a girl is black doesn't mean she's somehow more provocative or mature than a white girl and that's such a gross mentality to have. it's like white girls are seen as little innocent angels when black girls are "hoes" or whatever and for no reason? leave black girls alone for fucks sake they don't have any less value or humanity than white girls. they aren't "thots" just for existing. i personally feel that dress codes disproportionately target black girls in comparison to white girls, as if black girls are at fault for people sexualizing them. and it clearly shows it isn't about the clothes, it's about policing black women's bodies and telling them they are dirty or slutty for having features white women don't. and part of me feel like it stems from white womens' envy of black women having natural features that they can't achieve without surgery.
I agree in the 3rd grade i was wearing shorts because it was hot outside (im black and lightskin and skinny) i was dresscoded and my mother was told to bring me a new pair of pants a few weeks later i saw a little white girl with the same body type have shorts on that were just as short and the principal who dress coded me walked right past her
Edit: the next day i wore short shorts again just to see what would happen and i was dresscoded again my mother didn't agree to come and give me new pants so they had to accept it and i went on with my day
One of the first shows I saw as a kid with good diversity was Maya and Miguel! It was also the first cartoon I saw at the time that had positive Latino representation, specifically the main characters where Mexican/Puerto Rican (and I myself am Mexican) so it was very nice to see me represented the way I saw myself and my family. The black characters represented were also not just side characters, and the little black girls were definitely not “adultified”
YES.
And one of the main characters identified as an Afro-Dominican.
YES MAYA AND MIGUEL
I was going to comment it too but you put it very well so I’m just going to give this a like lol
Maya and Miguel were Mexican as far as I remember.
I was going to say this, such a good show
Can we talk about how Chloe was dressed inappropriately for a middle schooler... but this is damn near how middle schoolers dress nowadays 😕
True 0_0 that's why I don't really see anything wrong with it.
@@jocelynecupcake Maybe you're not old enough to realize this yet, but it's adults who shape our society.
The animators who drew this Hey Arnold episode decided to draw a 13 year old in skimpy, hypersexualized clothes.
Each time something like this happens, it is a gradual effect, but adults, children and 13 year olds watching the episode notice this and gradually, it becomes normalized.
Especially as more and more shows began drawing children this way
I was confused when I saw the outfit, especially as a current young black girl since this is just normal on social media and irl nowadays
idc bratz they always showed the girls in a good light
Yeah they were bad bitches but not male-gazey and the show/movies had good morals
I was surprised that she didn't also bring up the episode where Jamie-O was being played like a simp for a girl, too. That also painted black girls his age in a distasteful light, too. Hey Arnold just didn't know how to write black characters outside of stereotypes here and there, but it was the worst for black women.
this video would have been too long if i got to that episode. i might make another video on the black representation in hey arnold cause it's bad. really bad.
To be fair she wasn't the only girl portrayed that way. Remember that girl using arnold to build the sand castle ? Or Ruth? I think you guys are looking a little to hard into this
@@MM-hf6om I understand where you’re coming from, as summer and Ruth were over sexualized as they were only preteens (Or their early teens) as well but it hits too close to home with the African American community, especially when this happens to black women everyday. Being over sexualized when you’re only so young. Being a stereotype. Ik Hey Arnold is not the only one to do this. I love this show to death, and no show is perfect, but the sad thing is many shows did/ still are doing this and it needs to stop.
Craig Bartlett’s latest show, Ready Jet Go, has a prominent black girl in the main cast, and she’s written very well. She also looks visibly black
Good he seemed too have learned his mistake
what does being visibly black has to do with anything
@@charliepuppy. Some creators claim their characters are black but they have zero black features. Or they’re just ambiguously brown like Nadine.
@@BluffsCastle wait what if they are mixxed
@@charliepuppy. idk
I came as fast as I could since the adultification of black girls is a topic that should be talked about and should be fixed. Black girls can be innocent too.
I think it's a double standard for black women and girls. To be sexual when they don't want to be. Or to be shame for been sexual. I heard it a lot growing up too.
I not a girl so I don't know how it is really, but I seen how it effects women and girls in my family. I have been called fast before or said I like fast girls.
I love Hey Arnold. It’s one of my favorite shows but the way they portrayed the black girl in that one episode really bothered me. They over sexualized a teenage girl and portrayed her as “ fast”. I also can relate to grown men checking me out and trying to talk to when I was a teenager 10 years ago. I didn’t wear crop tops or short skirts and men were still trying to flirt with me when I was an underage child back then.
i’m bad with words so i’ll just say this :
i heard nothing but truths
In the Latino community it's the same thing also have the moms thinking the daughter is competing for the man's attention. It's bad . Breaks my heart to see this happen all
"Middle schoolers should not be dating High Schoolers"
Once you said that I instantly thought of Sailor Moon (90s Anime) Where Serena/Usagi, A Middle Schooler, was Dating Darien/Mamoru, A college student.
Now that you mentioned it, I remember thinking that Mamoru was an adult. And they DEFINITELY specialized Serena a lot. I remember I had to skip a full scene because she was in the bathtub and I knew it was obviously to be fan service. It’s probably the main reason I stopped watching, because I don’t like the idea of a character my age being sexualized and dating a fucking adult.
Craig of the creek has some decent diversity. Its super cute. I love how unapologetically sensitive Craig is. I feel all of the kids are well fleshed out characters and don't fall pressure to stereotypes. I love Craig parents because they show a healthy black relationship. I also adore how queer relation ships are treated as ordinary.
This
I tried sharing this video on Reddit because I thought it was an important issue to share. and the only comments I got were, “Why is it so important? How will watching this make me life better?” and “why is it block women and not women in general! That’s reverse-racism.”
I am soooo disgusted. Like, what is wrong with this world?! But I still loved the video, nonetheless. Keep up the great work.
Can’t wait to see that on r/FragileWhiteRedditor
I literally hate going on that app for any type of racial advice/conversation. That place is infiltrated with white incels.
I’m black and i feel this video is over the top coming from a 90s black man. This little girl needs help, she’s comparing herself to a cartoon🤪
@@clmoore0425, ok where are the acceptable places young black girls should see themselves in?
@@clmoore0425 🦝
I think Total Drama has always had great diversity. The fact that all characters are based off of stereotypes made it really easy for it to be handled poorly with it's black characters but I think they handled characters like Leshawna really well. She was strong, was cool with everyone (even with her biggest enemy at one point) and was always written in such a positive light
I've always have hated the fast narrative. It is so unfair to young women. Love the points made in this!
2003 Teen Titans. They tackled EVERYTHING. They didn’t put the black characters in a stereotypical light. Also I kinda think Are You Afraid of the Dark’s black characters were never seen too stereotypical.
You’re right. I remember how when I was in middle school, my teacher interpreted me eating a lollipop as something sexual. A damned lollipop!
Hold up, Nadine was BLACK? I always thought she was just a tanned white girl 💀 ain’t no way
I was about to comment this. I was like wait! She's black? I thought she was white or latina 💀
Can we take a second to talk about the fashion movement of crop tops in the 90's and early 2000's? Because it is really weird when I think about it. It was a fashion movement that was associated with teen girls, but it's an inherently sexually revealing piece of clothing. Yet it was so normalized in our society that tv shows, aimed at children, with characters as young as 13 were wearing them. I never saw any teen girl in real life wear them, yet they were everywhere on TV and no one would point out how much skin an eighth or ninth grader was showing off. It was like this insidious thing where TV shows with characters just a little older than the intended demographic were casually sexualized.
The most diverse kids show I watched was Maya and Miguel.
I never watched that show but i seen pictures. Strawberry shortcake is also a good example of diversity being represented in a nice way, but I'm sure not a lot of guys want to watch it.
Diverse show: the Sarah Jane Adventures. Single mum with nuerodivergent adopted children (one of which is gay and it's blatantly-latent ((to get past censors)). In the reunion episode it's revealed that him and his bf from the og series end are married and have a kid!) One main character was a child of divorce and ones parent was Polish, and lived with her father. (polish are an oppressed minority in the UK) Another main character was a dark-skinned black boy with a soft, loving artistic soul. And the last main character was a Punjabi-Indian girl with big ambitions, a loving father and a girlboss mom. Good message and great writing. Traded out problematic tropes for horrifically dark apocalyptic events. No one's treated as token. Everyone has a good character development. Series ended because the lead/eponymous characters actress succumbed to a hard, quick battle of pancreatic cancer. I would recommend it.
Just warning you. You will cry from episode one on.
Another thing that's also disgusting is that taking pictures of girls and women in public like that is not illegal the majority of the US states. I think upskirting is only illegal in three states last I checked.
not her being drawn with a sleepy eye the entirety of the episode. Thats really gross 😟
I'm going to childhood hades for this, but I didn't even know Nadine was supposed to be black, must be a result of not seeing yourself on television 🤷🏿♀️
Same.
@@awsomedude23456 It creates a more in depth relatability and can assist self image, a mirror you need at a young age, or that many don’t have. It’s important to see yourself as someone who can make huge accomplishments, a lens into your future and what you can do as a POC who may face the confliction, being made to feel the opposite of accessibility to achievement when that is completely false. It’s important to find that where you can growing up even on TV with whatever lesson can be taught, and there’s even more to that.
racial representation is important as well, but i remember my little pony having multiple ponies with things like prosthetic legs, inabilities to use their wings (pegasus) and wheelchairs and having them be good and nice characters without ANY MENTION of being “disabled.” it was great to see the ponies being shown as normal ponies, because that’s what they are.
Unfortunately, I think the issue of sexualizing children is universal, but the manner in which it is displayed and acted upon is different. I think it is more aggressive and in-your-face with women of color, so in some aspects, it is worse and should definitely be discussed. I think it is an issue with wider society, more specifically men. I had almost the exact same story as you, though in my middle school it was in a rural town with mostly white people, so were the students. I started a sort of petition for all the girls who were harassed by this one male student and brought it to the principal. Instead of doing anything about it, they told everyone to leave except for me, then shamed me for starting the petition once I was alone. I have had similar instances happen numerous times, getting sexually harassed or assaulted at school and when I bring it to authority, I was dismissed and belittled. The same can be said for the workplace.
An underrated show i think about alot when it comes to diversity is "class of 3000". It had alot of black characters, it also had some stereotypes but it was still a very fun and pretty cartoon in my opinion.
Andre 3000's tv show. I remember that.
I'm in middle school and I just wear an oversized hoodie everywhere I go so that no one can see my shape. Even in summer because I feel safe in it.
@Curly-n-Girly I’m wearing it less now. I mostly wore it because of anxiety, but I’ve switched to regular hoodies instead of oversized (I still wear it in summer though )
@@LordGarlicBread starting to get to this point :-/
I forgot this episode and this character even existed and honestly I'm glad I did cause this was fucking gross the way they wrote her. Like, props to the writers I guess for having Jamie-O know better than to like her back but that doesn't make the fact they did this any better.
Harriyanna, I'm so sorry that you had to go through that! It's extremely frustrating that black girls get sexualized at such a young age or are victims of sexual abuse. What's more is that many times they are sexualized/victimized by family members or community members. Fortunately, myself I didn't get sexually abused but unfortunately I know of family members and friends who did go through sexual abuse/harassment. I do remember sometimes that I would get asked for my phone number/dates or catcalled by older men around the time that I was in middle and high school because I was/am tall thus I looked older than my age (oddly enough now I'm 27 but people think that I look younger than my age). The worst experience I had was being honked at by a man in a car and being offered a ride home; I didn't know him from Jump Street but he wanted to take me home and he tried to follow behind me for a couple of minutes before he pulled off. As a black woman and previous black girl, I was and am mortified that we have to be sexualized foe existing and we aren't given better representation for being seen as people period without having our integrity and boundaries questioned! Children need to be protected but especially black children because we are groomed to be (looked at) as thugs and s#uts from a young age. It's so not far and we need better representation and protection!
I really do wish I could've grown up watching Hey Arnold. My mom didn't allow me, because she thought he was wearing a skirt.
Bruh 💀
@@Happysquigglyrudy I don't know why my young mind at the time, didn't tell her it was a kilt. I'm trying to remember if I even knew what a kilt was at the time. I was in kindergarten at the time by the way.
It was his shirt!
@@twiggledowntown3564lmao it was his skirt
LMFAOOOOO this shouldn’t be funny but goddamn 💀💀💀💀💀
The hispanic community is the same if not worse. I was born and raised in Mexico and girls are very oversexualized by our culture. They treat us as adults when we turn 12-13. Just think about "Quinceanera" for a moment. This traditional celebration is meant to tell other men that the girl is grown enough and ready to Marry and look for prospects. In america is less severe, but in my home country, things sadly are just getting worse.
as someone who grew up in a mostly black community in the us i can attested that this was my experience. when a black girl has her "sweet 16" she is seen to be more adult, even when she starts middle school because its a big shift in their lives.. we are often raise to be "good wives" just as well as parents often teach their girls about manners, cooking, and cleaning, but do not do the same for their sons. our community raises us to let men treat up terribly from a young again. its a similar experience but with different cultures.
What makes it worse is that the people who are responsible for those actions try to validate themselves by trying to fit in with more diverse groups such as the LGBTQ+. It doesn't matter what you identify as it's still wrong to hypersexualize young girls/women.
Kids next door had good diversity
The black guy was literally the coolest n the show & it showed
There’s this old 80’s show that’s called Jem and the Holograms that I think has good diversity.
I remember watching this episode when I was younger and whenever Chloe would try to flirt with Jamie O, I would always think to myself "That's not cute; he's too old for her."
One thing I notice in general is that people would expect a black girl or woman to act in a "stereotypical" manner but when they have their own unique personality, they're portrayed as snobby or "too white".
It’s awful that this happens to black women and you’re forced to grow up and aughhhh so horrible. Im asian and I get treated like a baby still and it’s just so sickening how people pin these labels on people because of their race and I think this needs to be talked about because otherwise nothing will change!!
I knew black women and girls were sexualized but I never knew it was to this degree so I thank you for teaching me something new 💗
I'm curious if you'll talk about the bad racial implications in Steven Universe and the She-ra reboot? Or the racism problem in their fandoms?
@@awsomedude23456 Well if you'll google racial implications of Steven Universe there are some people who can explain it better than I could but from the top of my head it's the treatment of black-coded gems like Garnet, Amethyst (maybe), Ruby, Sugilite, and Bismuth. How the mostly all the black-coded gems are all masculine, the way Garnet is sexulized, How Pearl used Garnet in the Sardonyx Arc. The fact that Pearl was in love with Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz who was basically her slave owner, The main fact that the entire story of Steven Universe is a white savior narrative or the biggest issue that the Diamonds who have colonized planets, kill countless beings, and have a literal human zoo were forgiven and redeemed with no punishment for their crimes
@@awsomedude23456 I know that the writers didn't intend to write the show that way and I know the writers are not racist (as far as we know) but as a black woman it still bothers me that a show that is praise for diversity has these really bad implications like did anyone from the crewniverse even double checked that what they might be writing might come off bad to black people or any POC at all? Plus it's really hard to re-watch Steven Universe now after everything happened in 2020 to me the message of forgiveness, redemption and pacifism in the show does it mean anything if you're not white? Also if you bring up these issues the fandom will claim you're homophobic. It really shows if you see the like/dislike counter on the SU anti-racism PSA videos. I really feel like people really need to talk about the racial implication in SU because it's important for shows especially for Queer driven shows to look out for this because the She-ra reboot has this problem too and I don't want this to be a trend especially for Queer driven shows to have Queer rep at the expense of black and POC rep we can have both. Also for more black and POC writers because there is a better chance of less unintentional racial implications.
This reminds me of that one tik tok that was doing the rounds awhile ago about this girl that was justifying getting married to this 40 or 50 year old dude. She was 18 but she had known him since he could hold her in his hands and she was screaming about people needing to mind their business. What haunts me is how her voice kept cracking while she was screaming "I'm grown! I'm grown" Literally just turned 18. She was a baby. It's infuriating.
Didn't Little Bill, have good diversity? There's so many, but I can't name all of them right now.
Yes it did, so did Strawberry Shortcake and Stella & Sam.
What if the high schooler in question is 1-2 years older than the middle schooler and they started dating in middle school? Should the middle schooler immediately break up with that high schooler by their freshmen year and vice versa? For example, is it really all that weird for a 8th grader to be dating a 9th grader? The 8th grader will eventually start high school next year too soon and the two can still remain together again in the same school.
the same thing happened to me when I was middle school. being sa at a young age really traumatized me especially when my own family told me it was my fault. I was a child!! it sucked bc it happened more as I got into high school and the school did nothing. still as an adult I still get hit on by old grow men bc I'm short so l look like kid/teenager when they know I'm a adult.
I remember this episode where 2 girls one was Latina went on double dates w Arnold n gerald to make their bfs jealous. Seems like a common theme in the show.
I never knew that people over sexualized black girls until I stared watching you, im glad to learn about this, the fact people think this in general is really gross, what does acting grown even mean 😒.
Gosh I feel this video so hard. The adultification of young black girls is the reason why I was victim blamed a lot from my mother from getting abused by her exhusband. I was literally a child but she called me fast, a thot, wh*re, etc and I was 8 when it happened.
Im sorry you have to go through that. I live in Atlanta as well and their is alot of creeps there there is also alot of trafficking here.
It's sad to see how bad the black female characters in Hey Arnold were treated. I didn't pick up on it back then. Growing up I thought the following kids shows did well with gender and racial diversity, and for reference I'm a white female, so this list is through that kind of a gaze. My list: Hey Arnold, Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, Unfabulous, My Brother and Me, Smart Guy, 7th Heaven, The Famous Jett Jackson, Static Shock, All That (1994-2000 seasons), Rugrats, That's So Raven, Taina, and As Told by Ginger.
THANK YOU!! NO ONE IS MATURE FOR THEIR AGE
craig of the creek is proof that an episode doesn't need a white character to be diverse
Children’s show with good diversity: this is for young kids but sesame street it was literally founded on it along with education.
Also edit: I HAVE SEEN THAT HEY ARNOLD EPISODE A LOT, and my gosh I always thought the girl was way older than she was damn that just proves your point
I remembered her being 13 when I was that age watching it. 13 year olds nowadays all look and act like that, trust me
i cant believe people give you a hard time for getting emotional/personal in these. whenever you share personal stories it always strengthens the video for me, because even if i dont know the media you're talking about i can still feel engaged :) (also, good luck with your day job!)
yeah i strongly relate. my family, more specifically my dad, has referred to me as a grown adult since i was 11. i'm STILL a teenager btw
when i was a child, i watch that episode, i didn`t understand what chloe was doing, i didnt hate her but i thought she acted weird, especially with the hoodie and how flirty she was with gerald brother. i wish that she would had been treated better and had character development instead of only using her to make Gerald and Jamie-o get along. i feel so bad that this episode brought you so much painful memories.
Why are young Black women less innocent? Because alot of black girls are put into adult situations too early in life. Many are not sheltered. I was fortunate enough to be sheltered but I'm mixed. I think the average Black family in today's time and age are not going to guard their kids from negative family and bad influences because Black media is full of Bad influences. Again I love Black R&B and I'm a Christian. I'm Black but I realize that my Black experience is not the average one. There's a difference between letting your kid see how the real world works and just not safe guarding them at all.
Thank you for talking about this Harriyanna and know that this is really bringing awareness to the topic. When I was super young I had also developed early which caused men to be catcalling me even though I was small at the time. They clearly knew I’m only a child and it’s super gross and demeaning. As a fellow black woman im so so sorry you had to go through the same and even dealing with your school. I can’t imagine blaming children for the actions of the people sexualizing them.
I remember when Hey Arnold came out with its trailer during Harriet the Spy in 1996. It was definitely more diverse than other shows were in the 2000’s but it also had great morals and life lessons. Tokenism was a really common theme in the 90’s so diversity was far and few in most shows of the time.
About the crop top thing, keep in mind that this episode was made in the early 2000s where a lot of teens and pop stars used to dress up that way. Kim Possible was also a cartoon of the 2000s that feature characters wearing crop tops that way. It was just a fashion style rather than being sexual. Crop tops/midriffs and similar styles are found in various cultures and have been around way longer before the Western world begins to adopt it. So are you saying that just showing a little belly button is considered sexual? Belly buttons are too sexual to be shown at all? Trust me, the crop tops alone aren't what make some women hypersexualized by the media and chauvinist "men." Western societies can stigmatize/ruined a lot of things that are considered common or inoffensive to non-western societies like the swastika symbol.
With that being said, it is rather a shame how black women and girls have to face certain double standards over their fashion choices and how they're being presented in the media.
Also, Twitter is far from being a good reliable source about anything. It'll bring the cesspool out of people over "their facts" or any discussion. I hope those same guys don't also talk about a kid or teen that way irl..
Back in the 2000s, little girls were either dressing up like Spice Girls, Britney Spears, or Christina Aguilera. Wearing tank tops and shirts we're fashionable back then for the youth. People today are forgetting what reality was like back then. You can't push 2020s rules/social dynamics on people from 20 years ago.
I'd also bring up another point about this episode and the intention. The message of this episode was that Gerald was going head over heals over a girl that has unrealistic standards. If you think about this show as a whole, no 10-13 year olds speak like they do in Hey Arnold. It's a kids show written by adults. What's great about this show is that it does put into perspective of what kids go through, especially in this episode where adolescent people go through sexuality. It maybe wrong to sexualize kids or expose them to that experience, but it's also wrong to shelter it away from it. When I first watched this episode, I didn't see it as a black girl to being degraded sexually, I see it as a situation where a woman could come between 2 brothers that suppose to look out for each other. As a fan of the show, there's too many flawed characters to make me discriminate a character based on their race, gender, nationality, religion, etc.
"Please talk to kids in your own school"
Uh....should I tell her about the kids that get held back or start school late?
You are seriously one of the people I respect the most on this app. I love what you stand for and what you are working towards :) . I hope you have a great day and thank you so so much for speaking on and bringing light to this topic
thank you so much, this means alot to me.
watching this made me think of something my dad said which was that the only ones who get a proper childhood are white boys and a lot of times, everyone forgets to tell them to grow up too
Sesame Street, I loved it growing up and seeing my little siblings watching it. It’s always diverse. But regarding newer shows, the Dragon Prince is pretty good with there diversity.
That's a good show!