New 2025 CFMOTO 675SR-R Unveiled: The Daytona Triumph SHOULD Have Made?
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If it at least has 110 hp it will be tough to beat. If it comes in around $ 10,000 even Aprilia will have nightmares. It has the potential to push other players to up their game which will be great for consumers.
Except Chinese bikes are heavy!
@@lcgiv4u no they don't have to be heavy. this ain't just a made in china bike. this is a real bike that just happens to be made by a chinese company. it's not the typical chinese shit. this is the make great products by exploiting chinese slave labour kind of deal.
@@lcgiv4u 3-4years ago, yes. Their latest releases are always one of the lightest of their segment.
@@ttrguy9952 What do you mean the math doesn't work?
@@ttrguy9952 what's wrong about that
CF moto is the most legitimate Chinese brand.....looks nice, will wait to see how it's received.
What about voge?
They are designed my Modena 40 an Italian design firm
It 100% depends on price...who this is competing against matters, is it going at the r7/8r/660 ? Or is it going at speed triple 765/z900se ...
I want that 500 Voom ugh...
They partner with KTM. Saw the plant in China KTM and CF conjoined
I have the 450SR-S and will definitely be getting the 675SR for my fourth bike. I am so glad I tried the 450SR-S before buying a Ninja 400. I dont think I could live with that sewing machine sound of the 180° crank.
I went to a dealer to buy a 450SS but walked away with a 2023 CLX 700 sport for under $7k usd. Absolute unit of a bike in terms of value and it feels really torquey even in Eco mode. I would love to try the new 675SRR due to triple cylinders make an amazing sound. MT09 being a great example.
yep ..top of my list... I hope its focussed bcoz compromises make dulls the experience. Plenty of 'do it all 'parallel twins to chose from such as the Suzuki 8R .... But I want my daily rides to feel like an event ==> short. focussed. thrilling.
yyeah can't beat 270 if you're going parallel
I went to Daytona this year. I wanted to film for my channel. The only manufacturer that would lend me a helmet was CF MOTO. They are building .odels here in America. I was impressed with their eagerness to get me on a test ride. Not one other brand did that.
I just hope they release it internationally. Bummed that they wont release the 500sr voom (ik, weird name) in international markets. Their bike designs are absolutely gorgeous.
The biggest differences is the Triumph will be worth more than $1.50 when you sell it. I'd rather find a used Triumph 675. Those aggressive riding position didn’t sell well is one reason that they went way and that is probably why Triumph Daytona 660 is what it is.
The Trident 660 looks great except for not having fully adjustable suspension.
Ι 've owned a Triumph Daytona T595 (955 c.c., for the younger ones) back in the late '90s. And it had a perfect balance: it was not a "track oriented" sports bike to enjoy every once in a while, nor on the other hand was it a "watered down" street bike that was "beginner friendly". It was not the strongest bike back then but it had enough raw power to be a beast, and was really well set-up so if you were a bit experienced you could have a blast with a bike that gave you fun and confidence.
I rode it every day and went on several longer or shorter trips on it. A few times, even 2-up (although not often).
So THAT 'S actually how Triumph should have built a new Daytona (preferably with the 765 engine).
Now as for the CF Moto bike, not my cup of tea, but it is actually interesting. And anything above 100 hp is enough for road use, in my opinion.
I had a Triumph Sprint ST and later a Street Triple R - the lightest bike with the best suspension and brakes I ever had on a stock bike. I fought myself for 2 years: should I sacrifice 30 kg for a 955i Daytona? The 675 engine was just too linear to be fun on the road. The 955 engine was a different animal in every respect and I also brought that bike down to 205 kg fully fuelled. In the end I sold her because you didn´t feel anything up to 170 km/h (105 mph) on open roads, which does not promote the life of rider or license.
The 675 CF Moto looks like an interesting concept, but 1. let´s wait how they water it down for the production bike, 2. where will it be price-wise and 3. the looks are a bit pubertal ...
@@matthiashauptmann9423 I also had a 955 Sprint RS (the half-fairing one) after the Daytona. Initially I was not so excited (the Daytona was wilder) but a year later I put on a titanium aftermarket exhaust and some mapping and it got quite some grunt in the mid-range. Then... I put on a K&N filter and voila! Revelation! I 've had around 120 hp on the back wheel, with a throttle response of a well tuned 4-cylinder 600 cc (and this with its maximum, huge, torque at just 5100 rpm!!!). You could roll around with a passenger and have a cool ride and next second you had a beast - that needed experience and attention to be controlled. I loved it so much I kept it for 13 years. Now after a few years on a Japanese bike, I am considering of getting a previous model 765 Street Tripple R, too. I test-rode it last year and it still had enough "rawness" in its engine that reminded me of the older Triumphs.
MV Agusta had also a F3 675 with 128 hp
Yeah, honestly the triumph is jsut way better value for money and most likely performs better (the R model). But that's not what people buy an mv for lmao, the exotic and different.. That's why.
So? Triumph released the first production triple in 1968 so the configuration has become synonymous with them.
@ double the cost? 😊
MV has long since chosen outright horsepower over torque. Their 675 and 800 have both been a little breathless in the middle and screaming at the top. That's not the sort of tuning you want for a street-biased engine.
@@rns6889 i have a Daytona myself, so i couldn't agree more
The Daytona 675 was one of my favorites I've ever ridden. Its a very track focused ride. Unfortunately they tend to have electrical gremlins. Weird ones too that oftentimes leading to something catastrophic.
The problems were mostly down to the Regulator/Rectifier on first-generation bikes. A failed R/R could also lead to a fried stator. But there's nothing mysterious about it. Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Ducati all had the same problem on various models. (Not sure about Kawasaki, but it probably happened to them, too.)
The old shunt-type R/R could overheat, particularly in hot climates. It was replaced with a MOSFET-type unit.
@@ApexRadius You know your stuff. Do you work in the industry?
@LGHTSPD675 It's just the consensus years after they were produced. The first gen 675s were notorious for electrical issues up until 2009-2010 where they fixed it more or less. The later gens aren't prone to them on a consistent basis.
I'm not sure about the other brands because I haven't dived into their history as much, but I researched Triumph frequently before buying my Street Triple 675R. Love it
@@LGHTSPD675 No, just a first-generation Daytona 675 owner and motorcycle rider/enthusiast. I've owned three Triumph sport bikes. Still have the D675 and a '22 Street Triple RS.
The D675 was bought new and I went through two R/R units in a couple of years. No stator or other damage but it was frustrating. Triumph first replaced failed units with the same (new) part but eventually issued a proper recall and replaced the original part with a MOSFET unit.
The thing is that the R/R and all of the electrical components are actually from respected Japanese manufacturers, so those manufacturers' components show up in a lot of other bikes, too. There are a lot of variables depending on the actual bike design, of course, but those shunt-type units could fail under certain conditions. And I think as sportbike designs became more mass centralized and more high performance oriented, those old units were not totally sufficient anymore.
Beyond that, there were no other weird or significant electrical issues for the rest of the D675's production run that I know of. I do know that some people have had issues with the stator years later that they chalked up as another problem but learned that it was actually crippled as a result of an old R/R failure.
@@LGHTSPD675 No, just a first-generation Daytona 675 owner and general motorcycle nut. I've owned three Triumph sport bikes. Still own the D675 and a '22 Street Triple RS.
I went through two R/Rs in the first three or so years with the D675 (bought new). No stator or other damage but it was frustrating. Triumph first replaced the failed ones with the same (new) part. That failed, too. (I did a lot of mileage during very hot summers in the NE USA.) Eventually they issued a proper recall and replaced the original shunt-type R/Rs with MOSFET units.
The thing is that the R/Rs and electrical components were made by major Japanese OEM suppliers, so those components are in a lot of other bikes. Of course, allowing for variables related to specific bike design and environment, the old shunt-type units can overheat and fail under certain conditions. My theory is that as bikes became more mass centralized and with higher performance, those R/Rs were not totally sufficient anymore, so several motorcycle brands had similar issues.
Suceeding generations of the D675 didn't have any widespread/significant electrical issues that I know of.
Looks great! Can’t wait for this one. I’ve been hoping for a sports bike in the 600 cc from cfmoto. Hope the price will be competitive as well
I think that they will continue with the similar position/design to the one of the 450 SR-R which is with the clip-ons a little sporty not that road friendly. I would expect the price to be similar to the Daytona 660. I think that the Daytona is missing the adjustable front suspension and a better balance because it seems that it tends to lean back and have a slightly low grip on the front.
Looks absolutely beautiful. Very aggressive and sharp.
Dont forget the have to comply with emissions regulations getting stricter every year. While others increase engine displacement they take or copy a proven motor and lower the output to fit legislations.
Honestly 100HP is a sweet spot for riding on the streets in Europe unless you plan on saying goodbye to your license for extended periods of time.
Cfmoto 500 Sr Voom will be amazing
Not compared to this bike.
this is a one off I believe ... the PRODUCTION version the 675 SR ( no extra R) is supposed to be unveiled next month in China... though I too do hope this extra R version would be available at one point to the public in the future but no news so far
Any takes on the concept cf 500sr?
So, Triumph should have made a bike which they introduced almost 20 years ago, was in production for over a decade, and they had to cancel because it didn't sell? I think you have your answer.
If the supersport market is somehow revived, then Triumph might get back in. Until then, this bike is likely a halo model for CFMoto and they probably don't expect to actually sell many. I like it, though.
Because it was overshadowed by its 600cc competitors. Now there is a big gap in the heavy/middleweight market (until yama comes comes out with the r9)
@@catfunt5583 No it wasn't. The first-gen was generally considered head of the class overall, by a fair margin, for its first couple of years and every generation was usually in and around the top three. The ZX-6R (636cc) was usually considered best overall in class by the time the Daytona 675 was cancelled. The R6 was generally considered the best track/race platform but not a very good road bike. The GSX-R was up there a couple of years but was eventually left with no significant updates for over a decade. Same with the CBR-600RR, which was at the bottom for several years. The current "all new" ZX-6R is barely changed from the 20-teens version. It's arguably not as good. The new CBR isn't all that different, either.
The Daytona was pretty expensive by the last gen, which didn't help.
All were objectively very good. The middleweight supersport class was probably the most competitive class for many years. Then it died. Sales tanked for all of them. New emmision standards with low sales made them far less viable The ones that still exist are really only there for race homologation and the fact that the big four could afford to carry them with so few sales.
That class, despite what the keyboard warriors like to believe, is still dead or barely breathing. I'm looking forward to the R9 and we'll see if it helps resuscitate that class.
CFMoto is a brand we'll be see more and more on the streets. They are coming strong! The biggest hurdle is the fact that it is chinese. But in time the tide will turn.
Thank you mr Bob!
Can you name a single Chinese Brand product that is known for quality? A product that people will choose it over every other brand because of its quality. ANY PRODUCT? No you can't.
That hurdle is as big and long as the Great Wall of China itself. And thank God.
@@spartanx169x The computers and cell phones and Tv's that we use every day are made in China. So yeah, they do know how to make quality products, as long as they are designed by the right people.
China is it's own problem. They probably have great engineers and innovators in their society, but the government (just like America right now) gets in the way.
@@spartanx169x there are tons of good Chinese companies.... i don't even think you know how much shit is actually produced by Chinese companies. not big US companies outsourcing but literal Chinese companies that make parts for everything around you. just becasue it's chinese don't mean it ain't capable of quality. also CF moto is extreamly well known and established as a ATV brand and is one of the most popular ATV brands here.
Currently own a 2022 700cl-x heritage and it’s been fantastic so far. This 675 triple is GORGEOUS and I will absolutely be buying this bike the second it touches down at a local dealer in Texas.
Ive been looking at the 700(we have a 450NK) but I kind of want something with more of a scrambler styling so not sure yet. A friend here in San Antonio may still have a Z900 RS with very low miles. Such s gorgeous bike. I love all the features CF offer though as well as the price.
Im not big into sport bikes but I really like that 500 Voom. I hope they bring that to thr states. It would do well with that retro styling. CF just killing it in the style dept.
@@landonfolken03 just like everyone else man I was skeptical of a new brand (especially one being Chinese). But I had watched idk at least 30-40 different videos of reviews on their bikes and I decided what the hell, if it turns out bad then I just won’t buy again. And so far I haven’t been disappointed. As far as looks though yes man they are far and beyond some of the best looking bikes. What you get for the money is pretty unheard of too. I really like the 800NK but I’m really waiting on this 675SR or I might hold out long enough to see how that 1000cc V4 is going to be.
While still being emotionally a Honda-guy, and using a VFR800, a couple of years back I admitted to myself that in terms of consistent quality, product innovation and marketing Triumph became the new Honda. Now, CF Moto are on their way to become the new Triumph, at least in the lower capacity segment. On a side note, I am happy that the CF Motot engine is a true triple, not a frankentriple with unevenly spaced crankshaft (T-plane). I just sold my Triumph 900 Rally Pro, due to unpleasant vibrations in the upper mid-range. I was playing with the idea to buy again a used Tiger 800, but decided to wait for CF Moto to place that new triple engine also into an ADV-bike á la 450 MT...
Modena40 is the styling design house with these newer CFMoto models. Based in Rimini, Italy. Gone are Kiska still with KTM, however Modena40 are super styling creators!
Looks like a nice bike with a lovely triple engine. Just a perfect engine. But please build it more chilled out for daily riding. Just look at the Suzuki 8R its so roamy and just perfect riding position more like a sportstourer just what i want but prefer a triple engine. This bike looks also better at the front. The Daytona looks also good and has that great engine and sound but the bike is to small and cramped and more lending forward riding position than the Suzuki 8R. The 8R its almost a perfect bike it handles great with that torque engine but dont like that front looks. Triumph, cf motor and Yamaha you already have a great engine use that and build a roadfocused comfy larger/longer bike. Its time to shift from track to daily road uses. Look at the Suzuki they are now in the pole position
I’m definitely a fan of CF MOTO. They’re different and that’s how it should be, to stand out! I just sold my 450ss because I out grew it so quickly. I know for sure if CF Moto sell these state side, I’m selling my 636 😅
If the Price will be at 9k ill buy it. This look hot AF! Love that it comes with a 3cylinder! #hyped
love the ergos. would have like to see a little more power out of that motor. the styling looks pretty good. they nailed the tail section, but im not aa fan of the tacky LED strips in the front. something a little more subtle would be nice. Winglets? No thank you.
They are the next Big player.. I'm currently looking too lay down My money on the 2025 Aprilia 660 . I think I'm going to be looking for what cmoto is gonna do if they put 120 plus HP it will be cmoto for Me.....❤
This could be the R9 we are desperately waiting for. 3 Zylinders are just fun. But the punch auf a Ducati L-2 is hard to beat
This absolutely has my attention!!!
It looks good. I’d definitely test ride one if it comes out.
Looks wise this is stunning and if it comes out looking even 90% as good it'll be the most visually appealing middleweight sports bike, with the R7 -nor the RS660- in third.
Hard to sell a bike which the cost to insurance is through the roof. That's Why Triumph made a "sport touring" class. To sell more bikes. Reason so many people are selling their GXR's. They can't afford to insure it. At least here in Canada anyways. :(
Looks great, excited to see what cfmoto brings to the table.
If those are stock adjustable rearsets, then i gotta a give a lot of props it to CFmoto, a lot of manufacturers this days want you to pay for more OEM adjustable Rearsets and quite frankly, im very much done with that kind of business model
I don’t mind that its Chinese made. My local dealership in New Jersey in the US is about to start carrying them and I think this may be my next bike, or if they end up making the other rumored 500cc (not the voom), depending on the specs. I think it looks insanely good and I’m a fan of triples.
What will it cost?
I would love to see this engine in a light-ish Scrambler/Dual-Sport/Adventure type bike. The Trident 660 didn't quite hit the mark for me and Triumph has had a gaping hole in their lineup where a smaller displacement triple cylinder Tiger should be.
Love the look of this bike. Go CFMOTO
I think, it´s a test-production before starting to produce a "Baby-MV Agusta"
Especially Italians like small "Racing Bikes" with great names !
Wonder if this is what the R9 will look like since CF & Yamaha have a deal for China only bikes.
Wwll, look like CFMOTO are getting serious with engine combinations. I wonder if this will go into one of their Adventure models?
Looks amazing.
Really does.
Aprilia is just stupidly expensive.
People who don’t ride a lot do not want to spend a fortune on a garage ornament.
This is very much my cup of tea.
Thank you for this video. Chinese is the future like it or not. They do excellent cars already
This bike looks amazing and exactly what I'd been hoping for. This is what triumph should have made.
But i could never buy a track focused bike that is really a first attempt from an unproven manufacturer in China.
As far as frames go, casting molds are ridiculously expensive. They also take tons of engineering scrutiny and time before the go-ahead is given to the tool maker to make the mold. Every little detail down to the 1/32" radius has to be considered for metal flow casting, because every second that passes when the mold machine is running is MONEY being made or lost.
Compare that to a jig, metal pipes, and some welding? It's easy to see the cost difference.
That CF Moto triple looks to be competing in the RS660, Daytona 660, R7, GSX-8R, CBR650R category.......not the dying 600 supersport category. So in the 100+ horsepower peak range, you'd imagine the triple is going to have a decent spread of torque. Manufacturers are having to comply with WINGNUTS in environmental bureaucracies.
Looks lovely
bring it just the way it is, very nice
really expecting a lot from this bike performance/component/price wise.
Have to say a great looking bike , just need a naked version to partner it . Pretty sure will sell , depending on the price .
This is a MV Agusta motor 675 they had a collaboration
afaik its a inhouse engine, 450sr with an extra cylinder
No, it's the 450SR engine with an extra cylinder. Also, MV Agusta has a different Chinese partner, QJ Motor.
The great thing about a triple is the lack of vibration.
I would love to see Moto2 turn into a 750cc triple series, with all manufactures participating.
MotoGP is going down to 850cc in 2026/27. So Moto2 will most likely go back down to 600/4-675/3 🤷♂️
I well like it the way it looks in the pictures not if the dummy it down
Waiting for this bike
Thanks!
apparently 100nm of torque with 100bhp, that isn't bad!
If it's only going to make 100 hp then it doesn't make sense to give it super-sport ergo's. Super-sports aren't high volume sellers so doubtful CFMoto would go that route. Would make a nice street-sport though!
It'll be perfect if they made it like rs660 ergos. Rs660 for today's market got no competitor's yet.
I’d hold out for the 1190cc version please...
1190cc, 170 hp, make a naked version.
It looks like a RS660
Still waiting for that cf moto V4
I want this exact bike how it is. Gimme
La CF est magnifique
I’ll just get the cbr650r
but the looks though 😍
I wouldn't buy one. But I'd expect CF Moto is going to end up being a serious contender. And I predicted this for a while and whenever I drop the comments I get ALOT OF HATE. Just to let you know I own a S1000RR and a Bandit 1250n and I'm not getting rid of them. I'm not seeing anything groundbreaking coming out of Japan anymore. And Euro bikes your gonna have to pay for that as specially here in the US.
When will cF Moto be launched in India
If the price is right, this will very likely be my next bike.
Its looks nice but to trade my 450ss for a 600. Any 4cyl wins for me. They're high reving, and come with more than 110hp.
Triumph have dropped a bollock lately.
CF have definitely and correctly zoned in on the market gap triumph left with the 660
I'm convinced the Jacksonville 660 is just to get people in the door and the salesman can say " hey for 800 dollars more ... Lighter, more hp, fully adjustable suspension, braided brake lines, quick shifter, brembos .... Just sayn' "
@ellwoodwolf maybe, a lot of people will still buy it tbf, it's definitely aimed at newcomers and younger riders; either way, seems to be a fiscal decision
I actually chose the Daytona 660 over the street triple cause it looks beautiful In person, and comfortably went 200.. don't need much more than that in Europe. It's also very comfortable. I find the street triple super ugly for example, also the mt-09 looks fugly for me in comparison..
@rajeshrameswaran each to their own, I personally find the looks of the Daytona a massive let down, all bit from the parts bin! I was speaking to the salesman at my local Triumph this weekend just gone, he told me they have barely sold any!
I mean look wise, looks good ... But .. if it aint holding the crossing tuning forks emblem . Im not interested
Is that Yamaha?
@@marcustaylor3528 INDEED
I can't trust the reliability and after-sales service of a Chinese-made motorcycle (yet). However, CF-Moto has one of THE BEST design team. Man, each new bike looks more stunning than the previous!
Thats because they directly copy the competition LOL. Its China. Copy/paste
I'm gonna invest in the future
What if cfmoto 675mt with the same engine of 675sr-r ^_^
This won't be a surprise at all. As long as the 675SR they ship performs well or just fine, the 675MT will be here soon. The 675SR and 675NK will be unveiled together on July 14th.
The crowds cheer as a new supersport bike is announced - and few will actually put their money down.
This is why I was happy with daytona not being an aggressive supersport. Now, if they were to make a more road oriented 675SR...
True. But for me I have a 2017 R6, so i don't really need another super-sport...
There are actually tons of bat #hit crazy super sport bikes on the market already, for those who want them. Kawasaki H2, Ninjas, Honda CBR1000RR, Aprilias, Ducatis, MV Agustas. Nobody is deprived of options if they want bikes like that. People just like to belly ache and have even more bikes available that they're not going to buy.
@@skymningforelsket1302 Wrong class of bike. All of them cost 20k up, it's not even on the same planet as this would be.
@@TheLastCrankers yes because it's a cheap Chinese thing probably made using slave labor
Everyone! Help me choose a color for the Honda Hornet 750!
Very sexy looking bike. I hope they give it a sexy paint scheme.
Cfmoto S1000RR
China is going to do what Japan did to the Brits and European motorcycles. Anyone that has not seen a CF Moto must go to there local CF Moto dealer and check them out. If they get there parts and service business up they will dominate .
I just can't get hyped about anything manufactured in China 😅
Aye, in the 70s folk said that about Japanese bikes…..
could never compete with a triumph but i will say its a beautiful bike and cfmotos newer bikes are starting to get wild. im a big fan, especially of the 500 voom they teased.
As an owner of a China made lemon motorcycle, you can never convince me that Chinese made bikes will ever be as good as Japanese bikes....
What manufacturer?
@@Mediarahan003 KTM Duke 790 😂
Lemons suck. I prefer Oranges.
Truly agreed
KTM is more India made rather than China aren’t they?
Keep the colour scheme… too many dull, monochromatic, matt bikes
💯% yes colour suits bike
Could u take a look at the triumph Street triple 660? A very Nice a2 restricable bike
CF Moto 800 MT owner here, so far so good.
CF moto 675 ....
RIVALS are ... - ??
Daytona 660 ...
And ???
Looks good, but I do not trust Chinese quality, also it depends on how will the specs are, compared to rs 660. RS 660 hands down best bike in this category for me at least. Have owned one for 2 seasons and it is amazing bike. For me though 100 HP is bit to low for the street, that's why I'm looking forward to the new KTM sport bike next year.
I agree with you!
I bought 450nk two months ago and it is better quality than my brothers Honda 300r and cheaper. In the past everything that came from China was cheap and poor quality so it is understandable people dont buy them but last decade they surpased Japan and Europe brands. Alot of people in my town taught it was ducati when they saw it.
Surpassed Japan and Europeean brands?? Lol nice joke! I don't see any chinese cheap junks that are close to Kawasaki ZX series when it comes to overall quality and performance! Dream on lolo!
@@josh6567harder
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How much is Aprillia paying you?!
I would assume that western brands bikes made in China have higher quality control standards than fully Chinese owned brands. I've seen a middle weight CF Moto adventure bike recently and the fit and finish is not quite yet in the level of Japanese and European bikes. It looks cheap.
This is gonna be lighter and more powerful than the triumph 😢
Maybe... What's the price ? Jacksonville 660 or speed triple 765 ?
They have just made a cf moto gp2 bike probably for marketing and advertising
It won't make production
Not inline, across the frame or transverse!
You're mixing the description of the pistons and how the engine is mounted on the bike. Inline never meant the orientation of the engine relative to the frame. It describes the arrangement of the cylinders relative to each other ex. V4/V2s mean the cylinders make a V pattern, Inline mean they are side by side from each other. Transverse and Longitudinal describe how they are mounted to the frame. That's why Moto Guzzi and Harleys both have V2 / V Twins but reviewers mention that Moto Guzzi's are transversely mounted on the bike.
Also, mounting an inline 2, 3, and 4 engine transversely is the conventional way of putting an engine on a bike.
The Japanese manufacturers better hope this thing isn't reliable......
My Triumph Tiger had such terrible build quality and manufacturer support, it might just as well have been Chinese.
Regardless, as long as Japan continues to build reliable motorcycle, I will never own either brand.
What year was your tiger? I really like the 660 tigers but I'm hesitant because of risk of issues.
Les marques chinoises connues comme CF moto ou Brixton ont un cahier des charges plus strict que bon nombre de constructeurs européens ou japonais.
@@spartanx169x I bought my 800XC brand new in 2013 and it was a nightmare from the first day.
The bike was an unending parade of "known issues", which, weren't known to me (or anyone else) when I bought it.
Neither the dealer nor the manufacturer had any interest in getting warranty work done on the bike. It was so bad that I regretted buying a new bike and eventually wished I had saved thousands by purchasing a used bike instead.
I ride big, big miles....multi-state, cross country rides. That sort of thing. I NEED reliability. That's why I ride Japanese bikes.
I’ve always said. China is not Japan. Japan started out with quality products from day one. But as as WW2 enemy, they were frowned upon. China has made cheap shit for decades and though they are improving through collaboration with outside companies, they’re still not good. The only way I’d deliberately use a Chinese car or motorcycle, is if they gave it to me for free and agreed to let me tell the truth about the vehicle. In saying that, this is the first bike they will give me, along with the necessary “test” equipment for technical feedback. I’ll test it for a year of commuting to work, sporty weekend riding and trackdays. Then I could make an informed decision on Chinese bikes. 😁
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Noo... not the Chinesium.
Don't fall for this nonsense. Read actual Reddit reviews and product reviews of CFMOTO, they catch fire.
Anyone spouting how good these bikes sell their soul for a few $1000s
Never
Made in China. That’s all I need to know about it.