Jeannie has previously said she doesn’t want to change her name with a marriage, because it’s HER name. This woman shouldn’t have to change her brand, her life’s work, because of the actions of another person.
It’s more about that her husband forced ppl to wear her brand that she should rebrand it and show that she did not support his actions within her company
True... I just hate R. Kelly's son has his exact name. He can never shake that🤷🏽♀️ bout like Jim Jones Jr. But he said his father did the crime not him. So it's a hard situation to b in as the wife of a man like that
@@lizmariequinn He can totally change his name a d at this point with R. Kelly's history even the judge wont tell him to wait if he's not 18 yrs old yet. That's a change you're name on the spot, granted by the court situation right there. If they tell him to wait, he can still cha ge his name in public just like people have nicknames and being a Kelly d9esnt necessarily mean he's related if he wants to move to an area nobody knows him
Even if she rebrands they will still say, she is guilty because she tried to make the history of the brand dissapear. No matter what she does, there will always some naysayers.
She doesn’t have to rebrand her company to reflect her ‘true self’, if she chooses to do that its her choice. Why should she forced to give up her company that she put her blood sweat and tears into when she’s probably already lost her dignity, many years of her life, and close relationships for being married to that man? Why should she let him take that from her too?
Thank you! I was irritated by the suggestion that she should rebrand/do a new collection/change the name/ distance herself/do this and do that like it's so easy. . SHE LEFT HIM, is that not enough? This is not the same as a new haircut/body after a failed relationship , this is a business she has nurtured for many years.
i agree i don't think she has to do ANYTHING different creatively if she doesn't want to. I would just expect some sort of statement condemning his actions in order to show that they do not support that and want to move forward positively if they add anything more supporting women, great. if not, that's the least they can do
I feel like just because my ex husband did something unforgivable, I shouldn’t be paying for it when I also am discuss by his behavior. His action shouldn’t determine her future. Keep supporting if you can. Us woman need it💯
“SEPARATE the ART from the ARTIST” first of all She is not her HUSBAND and to it’s not like Scarlett Johansson is going out with her husband and etc. it’s a piece of fabric that’s it... I’m sure Mr.Harstein’s wife doesn’t like or isn’t very fond of what he did but it’s HER business not her husbands... he helped start it but he’s not apart of it like that! Not to mention... Georgina actually is divorced from this man so whether she felt like she needed to for her business to stay successful or because she genuinely was disgusted by the news that she found out... it’s her company overall... she doesn’t need to be noted as the bad guy when Harvey is
@@ShweMyaukMyauk I don't think that's what this person meant. They acknowledged the fact that he did start the brand but the brand is now hers. He doesn't contribute to it anymore since they are divorced.
Mariyah Richardson but because he did what he did within her brand she should show that she did not support his actions within her brand.. she has to show the public that she doesn’t support what he did and didn’t know about him forcing women to wear his clothes
Adrienne & Jeannie Mai BOTH look so BEAUTIFUL, FINE & SMOKING ASS HOT TOGETHER on The Real & if only they themselves were an interracial married LESBIAN ASS COUPLE okay @linlinz9693.
Sometimes Jeanie just needs to let other people speak on things. I’m glad Lani spoke up considering she’s the one with African American hair and likely has ways more experience in doing braids and getting her hair braided
Changing the name might make her decrease in money and customers because the new name might not have a powerful impact or be popular or known it's like starting all over somebody who don't know your brand might not want to buy because they never heard of it
I'm not sure how the woman expected to get away without paying for her braids..but I do think that it was a little aggressive to cut them off in the way she did. I think they should've just called the police or taken it to small claims court like Tam said. Or at least cut them off in a safe way
Ok so the issue I have with the woman is that she set up an appointment KNOWING she most likely she wasn’t gonna be able to afford to pay for the style being done... she could’ve found a way to work around it and see if she can set up a payment in place for that appointment... now the issue I have with the hairdresser is her being very aggressive and very care free with the way she handled it on her own end... I understand it can be hard times and u feel and know u deserve to get paid for the work u r doing for these women... but her posting this on social media makes me give her a side eye
If you have a small business, make sure to have an online booking system in place where customers pay upfront, particularly for time consuming services. It also helps to ensure they commit to the appointment.
I get both sides the the point of a brand is making the NAME well known... it just won’t be the same . Did Papa Johns change their name when the literal FACE of the company was racist? No. It’s hard to build worth to your brand name and he doesn’t get to take it from her . She could do a really big marketing project/commercial thing where they destroy all designs made when he was still in the picture . Get rid of that inventory and renew in that way.
why do we have to be concerned about someone else's embarrassment and feeling when she sat in that chair knowing she did not have the money, that is theft. So now this woman is supposed to take her hard-earned money to pay to go to small claims court because you have to pay and she probably still won't get the money. I believe this is an example that's why it was record it so no one else would try this mess
So Jeanie STILL blames her tho? Imagine being a woman and telling another woman to disregard and toss out her whole entire career because of who she married? She left him..... THAT WAS HER STANDING UP!!!! Who would EVER even suggest one throw their whole life away.... ridiculous.
You don’t take people to small claims court over a $120 infraction. By the time you fill out all the forms alone, you would have wasted anywhere from $250 to $500 of your precious time.
@@kenz-hi6rn It doesn't, but why couldn't she? Saying someone was white or black or had a certain accent in a story you tell isn't bad, it's merely just a descriptor. If that somehow offends someone, then oh well.
There’s a difference than going and forgetting your wallet or something but it’s something totally different than going and knowing you aren’t going to pay
Getting our hair styled or a manicure/pedicure is a luxury not a necessity! If you can’t afford it, it’s not going to kill you. Do it yourself instead❤
You all don’t know but marchesa is what it is or was because of Harvey. Without him forcing a list Hollywood actress to wear that brand, it wouldn’t be where it is. So she can enjoy the success but not the downfall? I don’t think so
It’s interesting when we talk about rebranding, because there are other problematic brands. Hugo Boss used to design Nazi uniforms, and yet there’s been very little public outcry and his name is still attached to the fashion house to this day. To what extent should we really punish a person for her spouse’s actions? While I find it hard to believe that she had no awareness of what Harvey was doing, I imagine, as Tamera said, that she was also abused and turned a blind eye in a move of self-perseveration.
A lot of the salons, and hairdressers need to be more fun about the prices as well. I went to a salon a month ago and got partial highlights done and when I went six months ago it was $150 for the highlights and a haircut the hair dry hair wash etc. this time when I went back my girl is not available and they gave me a different girl I was charged $300, she did not cut my hair she did not put the glass in it she did not blow dry it I’ll she did was put a couple highlights in and actually it looks terrible and I hate it and I ended up paying $300 for 1/4 of the work I was expecting.
The Real, free advice and ideas to the community. 😸 Also, can’t they just hold her and call the cops for not paying?? Cuz yeah, I was worried the women would stab her accidentally and She would get a lawsuit. Plus, I never get why you can’t pay ahead of time. It just doesn’t make any sense.
The stylist wasted all her time for nothing. If I were the stylist I would have taken however much money the client had and then called the cops/hold something as collateral. Or as a punishment, just cut the braids shorter to a length that she didn't ask for.
Why should they have to change their name? So does that mean Tina Turner was complicit with Ike being an abuser because she didn't change the name that she worked hard to build into a brand? Are we holding any of the other businesses that worked with him professionally accountable as well?
I wouldn't have given the woman a choice, I would have reported her to the police; and with her permission when she sat down that it would be recorded and posted to social media, if she doesn't pay; as well as it being turned over to the police and prosecuted. Cutting the braids out serves no purpose as she has already lost the money for the braids and time that she has spent. I would suggest that maybe changed the way services like this are paid for. Some jobs, you have put so much money down up front, and then pay so much for every so many braids (or maybe per hour until the job is finished).
Okay, I need to know did she really go in there with no intent to pay? because I've gone to the salon before without a chance to go to the bank first (because I always do cash at the salon, especially for braids) and have gotten my hair done, then gone to the bank and come back with the payment and a tip - so I just need more context from the actual salon people I guess?
every single nail salon i go to here in san jose, they’ll offer a diff color, gems, etc and they don’t tell u it cost extra. so i just assume it does bc why wouldn’t it ?? some ppl are just supppppperrrr extra that’ll put up a big ass fight and will fr square up w the owners which is ridiculous
The video of the hairdresser and the customer showed a lot about you ladies. Eventually, you did give two suggestions that were morally standing and empathetic(Payment plan + Don't complete the hair, I would add blacklist her). Tamera, you mimicked her accent in a condescending manner and that was not cool. We talk about Black Americans and Africans not getting long, take a deep look into this video and you might see what i mean. I don't support her behaviour in this video(customer) just as a note.
I understand where this lady come from some people doesn’t like to pay my husband is mechanic people will ask him to fix their cars after he’s done that’s when they don’t have any money to pay so me as crazy Haitian wife I keep the keys no pay no cars keys
If any of my hair was cut or damaged in the process I'm going after everything you have. Don't damage my hair. I'm sorry I'm short but I will bring back your money
This is a topic that requires morals in opinion especially when you’re talking to an audience- I expect better from mrs Jeannie Mae smh condoning that behavior is wack like adrianne says
I remember my nail artist, the first time I went to her, explaining how much more it was going to cost for the extra services and when she kept making sure I knew that it was going to cost more I asked and was surprised to find out that people walk out on her after getting their nails done 😳 extra work is extra money, basic knowledge people.
Loni's hair looks beautiful like that... And orange is a beautiful color on her
Love the positive comment
I like her hair like that too!
Yes👍
OMG I was just about to say that. I love that hair on her!!!
Jeannie has previously said she doesn’t want to change her name with a marriage, because it’s HER name. This woman shouldn’t have to change her brand, her life’s work, because of the actions of another person.
Megan Amos I agree!!! It’s HER brand. Why should she change ANYTHING??
Yep its different when tables are turned
It’s more about that her husband forced ppl to wear her brand that she should rebrand it and show that she did not support his actions within her company
@@sarahbowlin9423 exactly
Umm her husband isn't a criminal?
I love Loni’s hair like that! She should wear it like that more often. #fierce
Shay91 if she doesn’t wear it natural, that style is the next best thing! Looks fabulous
Shay91 So make sure you never wear one.
Shay91 👀 God Bless 🙏🏽.... now let’s move on with some positivity.
The How To Diva I completely agree!
It's not that serious. She isn't her husband. At least she isn't like r Kelly's ex, keeping his last name.
True... I just hate R. Kelly's son has his exact name. He can never shake that🤷🏽♀️ bout like Jim Jones Jr. But he said his father did the crime not him. So it's a hard situation to b in as the wife of a man like that
@@lizmariequinn He can totally change his name a d at this point with R. Kelly's history even the judge wont tell him to wait if he's not 18 yrs old yet. That's a change you're name on the spot, granted by the court situation right there. If they tell him to wait, he can still cha ge his name in public just like people have nicknames and being a Kelly d9esnt necessarily mean he's related if he wants to move to an area nobody knows him
@@Ebunoluwa13 he doesn't have to change his name he didn't do nun
@@Ebunoluwa13 if he wants to find
Tamera's hairstyle is a different level of beautiful!!
Even if she rebrands they will still say, she is guilty because she tried to make the history of the brand dissapear. No matter what she does, there will always some naysayers.
Loni’s hair is so stunning! And tamera’s outfit is gorgeous!
Shay91 what stick is up your ass lol
Shay91 let’s see your hair broke bitch !!
Shay91 I don’t ,but who are you to come for somebody else’s hair when we can’t see yours either
She doesn’t have to rebrand her company to reflect her ‘true self’, if she chooses to do that its her choice. Why should she forced to give up her company that she put her blood sweat and tears into when she’s probably already lost her dignity, many years of her life, and close relationships for being married to that man? Why should she let him take that from her too?
Thank you! I was irritated by the suggestion that she should rebrand/do a new collection/change the name/ distance herself/do this and do that like it's so easy. . SHE LEFT HIM, is that not enough? This is not the same as a new haircut/body after a failed relationship , this is a business she has nurtured for many years.
Michelle Arianna yess exactly!!!
@@sarahm6528 But it's always easier to tell people what to do when we aren't in the EXACT situation.
i agree i don't think she has to do ANYTHING different creatively if she doesn't want to. I would just expect some sort of statement condemning his actions in order to show that they do not support that and want to move forward positively
if they add anything more supporting women, great. if not, that's the least they can do
@@zarahshabs7936 I agree!!
I feel like just because my ex husband did something unforgivable, I shouldn’t be paying for it when I also am discuss by his behavior. His action shouldn’t determine her future. Keep supporting if you can. Us woman need it💯
Tamera looks gorgeous...the color, the makeup, the hair... ALL on point. Yes Jeannie! Yes!
Adrienne looks bomb
Jeanie, it's easier said than done! SHE IS NOT HER HUSBAND!
Rebranding is not a hard thing to do at all for a multi million dollar fashion brand, jeannie knows this, she worked in fashion
@@sugaspice7684 "worked in fashion " doesn't own a multi million dollar fashion brand.
@@michellearianna4403 that's basic knowledge about the fashion and marketing industry hunty
@@sugaspice7684 Okay then.
she’s just saying she should rebrand bc sadly, it’s going to be associated with harvey for a long time
“SEPARATE the ART from the ARTIST” first of all She is not her HUSBAND and to it’s not like Scarlett Johansson is going out with her husband and etc. it’s a piece of fabric that’s it... I’m sure Mr.Harstein’s wife doesn’t like or isn’t very fond of what he did but it’s HER business not her husbands... he helped start it but he’s not apart of it like that! Not to mention... Georgina actually is divorced from this man so whether she felt like she needed to for her business to stay successful or because she genuinely was disgusted by the news that she found out... it’s her company overall... she doesn’t need to be noted as the bad guy when Harvey is
Myronn Coleman if u think Harvey has nothing to do with the brand apart from starting out....you are too innocent
Exactly whatI felt
@@ShweMyaukMyauk I don't think that's what this person meant. They acknowledged the fact that he did start the brand but the brand is now hers. He doesn't contribute to it anymore since they are divorced.
Mariyah Richardson but because he did what he did within her brand she should show that she did not support his actions within her brand.. she has to show the public that she doesn’t support what he did and didn’t know about him forcing women to wear his clothes
“no nail for you!!!” 😂😂😂
That color is gorgeous on Adrienne. She looks so soft and pretty. Graceful
Adrienne & Jeannie Mai BOTH look so BEAUTIFUL, FINE & SMOKING ASS HOT TOGETHER on The Real & if only they themselves were an interracial married LESBIAN ASS COUPLE okay @linlinz9693.
Sometimes Jeanie just needs to let other people speak on things. I’m glad Lani spoke up considering she’s the one with African American hair and likely has ways more experience in doing braids and getting her hair braided
This is why stylists ask for a non refundable deposit 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
on a lighter note, that dress kinda looks like a tampon though🥴
So grateful to these women 💓 definitely helping me keep my sanity during these times
Very nice topic. Stay safe everyone.
Changing the name might make her decrease in money and customers because the new name might not have a powerful impact or be popular or known it's like starting all over somebody who don't know your brand might not want to buy because they never heard of it
I'm not sure how the woman expected to get away without paying for her braids..but I do think that it was a little aggressive to cut them off in the way she did. I think they should've just called the police or taken it to small claims court like Tam said. Or at least cut them off in a safe way
Ok so the issue I have with the woman is that she set up an appointment KNOWING she most likely she wasn’t gonna be able to afford to pay for the style being done... she could’ve found a way to work around it and see if she can set up a payment in place for that appointment... now the issue I have with the hairdresser is her being very aggressive and very care free with the way she handled it on her own end... I understand it can be hard times and u feel and know u deserve to get paid for the work u r doing for these women... but her posting this on social media makes me give her a side eye
I love the earrings Adrienne has on 😍
LADIES! OH MY GOSH THEY LOOK SO DAMN BEAUTIFUL 😭😍 Adrienne and Tamara’s makeup is on point oh my god
I love Tams dress in this episode it looks absolutely beautiful on her ❤️!
If you have a small business, make sure to have an online booking system in place where customers pay upfront, particularly for time consuming services. It also helps to ensure they commit to the appointment.
I get both sides the the point of a brand is making the NAME well known... it just won’t be the same . Did Papa Johns change their name when the literal FACE of the company was racist? No. It’s hard to build worth to your brand name and he doesn’t get to take it from her . She could do a really big marketing project/commercial thing where they destroy all designs made when he was still in the picture . Get rid of that inventory and renew in that way.
T Tae that’s exactly what I was saying!! Why should he get to take her hard earned company from her too!
The missed the point of the first conversation. It's about Scarlett wearing the dress, not the life and choices of the designer.
Beautifully said Jeannie ❤️
why do we have to be concerned about someone else's embarrassment and feeling when she sat in that chair knowing she did not have the money, that is theft. So now this woman is supposed to take her hard-earned money to pay to go to small claims court because you have to pay and she probably still won't get the money. I believe this is an example that's why it was record it so no one else would try this mess
So Jeanie STILL blames her tho? Imagine being a woman and telling another woman to disregard and toss out her whole entire career because of who she married? She left him..... THAT WAS HER STANDING UP!!!! Who would EVER even suggest one throw their whole life away.... ridiculous.
Exactly!!
Jeannies thinking business-wise and I agree with her
You don’t take people to small claims court over a $120 infraction. By the time you fill out all the forms alone, you would have wasted anywhere from $250 to $500 of your precious time.
I agree with Adrienne
I agree with Adrienne on this and guys businesses are complicated, it is not as easy as throwing away a bag your ex bought you. Be reasonable, Jeanie!
Can Jeannie get her own talk show 😭
Upload the full girl chats from season 1 & 2.
Ooo everyone looks amazing
10:57 What was the point of stating the lady had an african accent?
Because why not?
@@poopsie2 bc it doesn't rlly matter
@@kenz-hi6rn It doesn't, but why couldn't she? Saying someone was white or black or had a certain accent in a story you tell isn't bad, it's merely just a descriptor. If that somehow offends someone, then oh well.
@@poopsie2 no bc they were basically clowning on this girl so pointing out race is just dumb
@@kenz-hi6rn African is not a race, it's an ethnicity. They were talking about their accent.
That color and outfit looks lovely on Loni.
They all look beautiful in this episode!
There’s a difference than going and forgetting your wallet or something but it’s something totally different than going and knowing you aren’t going to pay
Getting our hair styled or a manicure/pedicure is a luxury not a necessity! If you can’t afford it, it’s not going to kill you. Do it yourself instead❤
I see why their stylist is Emmy award winning honey yes 🥇
Loni was like “we’ on be having a license” 😂🤣😂
You all don’t know but marchesa is what it is or was because of Harvey. Without him forcing a list Hollywood actress to wear that brand, it wouldn’t be where it is. So she can enjoy the success but not the downfall? I don’t think so
Since when did designers need to redo anything in their business after a divorce...
It’s interesting when we talk about rebranding, because there are other problematic brands. Hugo Boss used to design Nazi uniforms, and yet there’s been very little public outcry and his name is still attached to the fashion house to this day. To what extent should we really punish a person for her spouse’s actions? While I find it hard to believe that she had no awareness of what Harvey was doing, I imagine, as Tamera said, that she was also abused and turned a blind eye in a move of self-perseveration.
All the ladies look stunning especially Loni she looks so pretty!!!
The tea is now spilled
I’m sorry, I might be the only one to believe: tell me who you walk with and I’ll tell you who you are. 🤷🏻♀️
goodness gracious you guys all look so beautiful i can barely listen
Okay their stylists ATE here
A lot of the salons, and hairdressers need to be more fun about the prices as well. I went to a salon a month ago and got partial highlights done and when I went six months ago it was $150 for the highlights and a haircut the hair dry hair wash etc. this time when I went back my girl is not available and they gave me a different girl I was charged $300, she did not cut my hair she did not put the glass in it she did not blow dry it I’ll she did was put a couple highlights in and actually it looks terrible and I hate it and I ended up paying $300 for 1/4 of the work I was expecting.
loni’s facial expressions always make my day
She could just change the logo and make it a symbolic thing. It’s unfair to ask her to kill her brand.
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Also, can’t they just hold her and call the cops for not paying?? Cuz yeah, I was worried the women would stab her accidentally and She would get a lawsuit. Plus, I never get why you can’t pay ahead of time. It just doesn’t make any sense.
That's some poor business action. I hope they got sued. But yeah sides are in the wrong here.
I love tamera dress!
if they did rebrand i would be like its a fresh start for georgina and the buisness
Exactly Adrienne!!
The stylist wasted all her time for nothing. If I were the stylist I would have taken however much money the client had and then called the cops/hold something as collateral. Or as a punishment, just cut the braids shorter to a length that she didn't ask for.
Why should they have to change their name? So does that mean Tina Turner was complicit with Ike being an abuser because she didn't change the name that she worked hard to build into a brand? Are we holding any of the other businesses that worked with him professionally accountable as well?
I wouldn't have given the woman a choice, I would have reported her to the police; and with her permission when she sat down that it would be recorded and posted to social media, if she doesn't pay; as well as it being turned over to the police and prosecuted. Cutting the braids out serves no purpose as she has already lost the money for the braids and time that she has spent. I would suggest that maybe changed the way services like this are paid for. Some jobs, you have put so much money down up front, and then pay so much for every so many braids (or maybe per hour until the job is finished).
Tameras version of an African accent 😂😂😂🤣🤣. I am personally offended.
I don't think it is fair to chastise a woman for her affiliation to a man. SHE IS HER OWN PERSON 🙄
why do tamera always be dressing like she going to a quinceanera hahah here for it tho !!
Sometimes they charge fees that you did not agree to. This may have been that case. Or they did not braid it the way you wanted it
Okay, I need to know did she really go in there with no intent to pay? because I've gone to the salon before without a chance to go to the bank first (because I always do cash at the salon, especially for braids) and have gotten my hair done, then gone to the bank and come back with the payment and a tip - so I just need more context from the actual salon people I guess?
Once they left this set the show wasn’t the same. The energy of them plummeted & then covid
Where did she get the money to make her brand though?
Tam is soooooo gorgeous
every single nail salon i go to here in san jose, they’ll offer a diff color, gems, etc and they don’t tell u it cost extra. so i just assume it does bc why wouldn’t it ?? some ppl are just supppppperrrr extra that’ll put up a big ass fight and will fr square up w the owners which is ridiculous
The video of the hairdresser and the customer showed a lot about you ladies. Eventually, you did give two suggestions that were morally standing and empathetic(Payment plan + Don't complete the hair, I would add blacklist her). Tamera, you mimicked her accent in a condescending manner and that was not cool. We talk about Black Americans and Africans not getting long, take a deep look into this video and you might see what i mean. I don't support her behaviour in this video(customer) just as a note.
Agnes Agada yeah, I felt some typa way with Tam doing the ‘African accent’. That was unnecessary. Felt disrespected.
Well Cosby show was pulled off tv all earnings for cast members taken from them and they had noting to do with Cosby. So same logic.
Why can’t she just be original to herself that she made it herself!?!
Good ideas but we don't know what she's been through.. let her make her own decisions at her own pace.
She had to know , the public knew & the wife didn’t? Nah
thank you.
@@freppy06 can’t convince me of anything else 😭
Tam love your accent and your strong english vocabulary
Would one stop watching all of the movies he's produced as well?
What are the odds him doing that all these years and his wife not knowing though? I agree with Jeannie and a lil with Adrienne if that is the case
I understand where this lady come from some people doesn’t like to pay my husband is mechanic people will ask him to fix their cars after he’s done that’s when they don’t have any money to pay so me as crazy Haitian wife I keep the keys no pay no cars keys
Thank goodness for the vault.
She's her own person but if people knew early on about the abuse there's no way at some point she knew
I agree with jeannie 💯
If any of my hair was cut or damaged in the process I'm going after everything you have. Don't damage my hair. I'm sorry I'm short but I will bring back your money
I want the same energy when it's his Company
So we just going to sit here and act like getting your hair braided is a necessity
I completely agree with the hairstylist 👏👏👏👏👏
This is a topic that requires morals in opinion especially when you’re talking to an audience- I expect better from mrs Jeannie Mae smh condoning that behavior is wack like adrianne says
Loni looks so beautiful 😍
Loni looks like a goddess!!!
I remember my nail artist, the first time I went to her, explaining how much more it was going to cost for the extra services and when she kept making sure I knew that it was going to cost more I asked and was surprised to find out that people walk out on her after getting their nails done 😳 extra work is extra money, basic knowledge people.
Nahhh Jeannie cuz it's some nail techs that don't tell exactly how much it costs. Saying it's extra then charging 15-20 extra is different.
This is why most shops make you pay first ...
Get her license and info if she don't pay up in 14 days take her to small claims court...Nobody wins the way it happened
That's a waste of hair too.
DAMNN! y'all are you beautiful!
She could have said she didnt have money before the stylist braid her hair