From a disc pov its a huge win, basically the current tier set amped up and leaning realy into certain aspects of the class fantasy. Please do a review on that too cause I’m very curious how it feels cause this talent tree gives them so much offensive power on paper it looks absolutely nuts
I don’t mind them taking mind sear but shadow crash is just silly, if the tank moves the mobs you are fked big time. A new way of dotting faster would be nice.
This looks so fun, it fits in the spriest theme of ramping up damage and all of the interactions seem so cool, I like the fact it has nodes that synergise with different build paths too, im optimistic about it!
Wish that you had access to the alpha for a more in depth review, but thank you for sharing your thoughts on it. Can’t wait to see how it turns out in the end. 🔥
couldn't wait for your take, as a pvper i riff off what you have to say a lot sims wise so i dont have too narrow of a perspective. you help me pump thanks man
the priest sending a black hole to the enemies was by far the most ESPECTACULAR skill in all the talents i saw.. and i just love it.. the second best hero talen is the riders of the frost dk and unholy dk.. the help from acherus.. and the idea of fighting while mounting or transforming your sprint into the horse of the paly but for dk
I have been waiting for yout to make a video about this. Yay. I do hope they improve some of the visuals. The rift looks pretty rubbish at the moment, considering we have so many awesome void spell visual effects to draw upon. The question is, will we finally get to have our PW: Shield and levitate use a shadowy animation.
Even after all the reworks void torrent is still a super cool ability so happy to see Blizz add some fun stuff to it with one of the hero talent trees.
Rift looks awesome, like a little blackhole. :D Just wished they'd update our Shields, they still look the same since vanilla while Paladins got theirs updated using shaders and mages had it graphically updated. :|
on the voidblast, im looking to get 3 but never do. and watched your video and you made it sound like mind blast also worked.. for the duration to increase it hast to only be voidblast right?
Do you think anything you've seen either here, in the Voidweaver talents, or in general War Within content, will help spriest feel less sluggish or one-note in terms of movement and utility, or will we still be a snail class? I like that this set of hero talents seems to offer some amount of AoE which, in my mind, alleviates some of the pain of relying on SC, but I'd really love to have even a fraction of the movement other classes seem to have baked in.
I see a lot of pvpers on the forums talking about how the slow etc wont do anything due to the massive amount of gap closers and mobility from the other classes, and i cant help but agree with them at this point. Not to mention the ability to lock down a priest with the long cast of void torrent. It begs the question, does entropic rift still materialize if you only get half a cast off before youre are kicked,stunned, etc? Or are you just dead in the water at that point. A lot of potential flaws in there.
How will it feel using Void Eruption/PI/Pot, do you pop CDs before just sitting in Void Torrent, or will you take 2 seconds of your Entropic Rift using GCDs to pop cooldowns? Seems clunky either way, but I have been out of the game for a bit, I could be way off.
Rotation breakdown video came out today! And the written guide is here: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities TLDR you go something like Vampiric Touch > Shadowfiend > Mind Blast x2 > Void Eruption > Potion + Power Infusion + On-use trinkets > Devouring Plague (if you started with enough insanity from Divine Star/Halo/etc) > Void Bolt > Mind Blast twice > Void Torrent
Seems fun, but a bit weird that the vfx of the "rift" wasn't tore open right at where the enemy stands but sent out by the priest and "flew" to the location. So, you may have to wait for its arrival. Also, new vfx for Void Torrent is cool, but feels a bit too dark. Void Blast vfx is cool as well. I thought it was another channeling spell when I watched the play style video. I misunderstood. 😂
None of these effects look cool...the rift should have looked somewhat like this ua-cam.com/users/shortssp5o9hal-f0 Instead they just reused the laziest animation they could find.
I wonder what the range on Void Leech is. It says "nearby" which makes me think ~12 yd. If that's the case, Embrace the Shadow will be far superior in dungeons at least. It probably will be anyway, but in raids it will be much easier to be near someone to leech from. Other than that, this looks like a very positive start for Shadow hero talents! Especially Dark Energy. For some unknown reason, i'm expecting that to be nerfed to the ground before release :(
A lot of it is where they change the spell that triggers it. So instead of void torrent it’s mind blast, and instead of devouring plague hits it’s penance ticks
Basically you have your normal class/spec trees still. And then in addition to that as a Shadow Priest you choose either Archon (not out yet) or Voidweaver for an additional set of talents. Most of them are fixed and not choices.
To each their own, but imho void blast looks like shlt...they have made a bunch of cool cosmic void animations for a bunch of mobs and even that plunderstorm skill had an amazing expanding void animation...but when it come to player skills the best they can come up with is "two dark purple lines"? Really? Has the bar been set so low? These "void" skills look just like any other shadow priest skill. This is what cosmic void is supposed to look like: ua-cam.com/video/NMoktu57YVs/v-deo.html
I am dissapointed with the animations for years now... especially for priests. I was also super excited when they announced the ultimate penance skill (or whatever it is called). And then it was just some recycled animation again. Also, priest STILL has a lot of spell effects that are the same since WoW came out. Like what? Smite, Holy Fire, PW:S, the stamina buff... there is so much stuff they need to update imo. Even the "new" spells should get an update. But I guess most players dont care about this.
@@kattostudio3874 I find it so odd how WoW player don't seen to care about VFX... It wouldn't even be much work updating some skills, considering how many of them already have updated versions being used by mobs. We are coming from an expansion full of cool cosmic void skills and going into one with a relevant npc that will likely have some amazing void vfx... But nope, the best we can do is reuse mind flay and call it "cosmic blast" somebody kll me pls.
I've been hitting refresh waiting for a video on voidweaver, sounds so cool, let's gooo!
Great coverage, I've been coming across your videos a lot and you're really thorough so I just subd - thanks again
Awesome, thank you!
From a disc pov its a huge win, basically the current tier set amped up and leaning realy into certain aspects of the class fantasy. Please do a review on that too cause I’m very curious how it feels cause this talent tree gives them so much offensive power on paper it looks absolutely nuts
I saw the first Talent icon and deadass thought they were bringing back Searing Nightmare... almost got a meltdown xD
It wasn't that bad however prioty dmg wasn't great
@@robertgowdey It sucked big time.
@@robertgowdey It was horrible and clunky
I'd be happy tbh. Bring back mind sear!!
I don’t mind them taking mind sear but shadow crash is just silly, if the tank moves the mobs you are fked big time. A new way of dotting faster would be nice.
This looks so fun, it fits in the spriest theme of ramping up damage and all of the interactions seem so cool, I like the fact it has nodes that synergise with different build paths too, im optimistic about it!
Wish that you had access to the alpha for a more in depth review, but thank you for sharing your thoughts on it. Can’t wait to see how it turns out in the end. 🔥
Got invited to the big alpha! Just not creators only one that launched a bit earlier.
This looks awesome! Thanks for the analysis, makes me excited for spriest in TWW!
You and me both!
couldn't wait for your take, as a pvper i riff off what you have to say a lot sims wise so i dont have too narrow of a perspective. you help me pump thanks man
Glad I could help!
Blizz needs to add a cosmic void skin for the class like green fire for warlocks.
And also a whole holy skin ngl to let people have fun smiting the wicked 😂
Agree to both ideas! Would be sick!
Bruh, fire mages are asking for blue fire since Legion. Chances we get a reskin for SPriest are very low.
soon as i saw this in reccomended i clicked on it faster than i can blink XD. been waiting to look at spriest hero talents.
the priest sending a black hole to the enemies was by far the most ESPECTACULAR skill in all the talents i saw.. and i just love it.. the second best hero talen is the riders of the frost dk and unholy dk.. the help from acherus.. and the idea of fighting while mounting or transforming your sprint into the horse of the paly but for dk
I'm super excited by this! The leech talent made me lol.
Super excited to leech health from allies
Yeah that needs to change
I have been waiting for yout to make a video about this. Yay. I do hope they improve some of the visuals. The rift looks pretty rubbish at the moment, considering we have so many awesome void spell visual effects to draw upon. The question is, will we finally get to have our PW: Shield and levitate use a shadowy animation.
Void blast animation looks sick
Even after all the reworks void torrent is still a super cool ability so happy to see Blizz add some fun stuff to it with one of the hero talent trees.
Lol this intro music cracks me up everytime because it’s so opposite to the way Publik portrays himself.
true and real
Rift looks awesome, like a little blackhole. :D
Just wished they'd update our Shields, they still look the same since vanilla while Paladins got theirs updated using shaders and mages had it graphically updated. :|
on the voidblast, im looking to get 3 but never do. and watched your video and you made it sound like mind blast also worked.. for the duration to increase it hast to only be voidblast right?
Looks nice shadow priest
I wish void blast would look like the sod mindspike. I wish there would be at least an glyph coming out for this
Does Embrace the Shadow's healing work with Shadow Word: Death?
It sure does!
Do you think anything you've seen either here, in the Voidweaver talents, or in general War Within content, will help spriest feel less sluggish or one-note in terms of movement and utility, or will we still be a snail class? I like that this set of hero talents seems to offer some amount of AoE which, in my mind, alleviates some of the pain of relying on SC, but I'd really love to have even a fraction of the movement other classes seem to have baked in.
I think the No Escape and Dark Energy Choice Node will certainly help a bit, although I would always love more
I see a lot of pvpers on the forums talking about how the slow etc wont do anything due to the massive amount of gap closers and mobility from the other classes, and i cant help but agree with them at this point. Not to mention the ability to lock down a priest with the long cast of void torrent. It begs the question, does entropic rift still materialize if you only get half a cast off before youre are kicked,stunned, etc? Or are you just dead in the water at that point. A lot of potential flaws in there.
Good point and good question. Lots to test once we get Alpha
If the rift only spawns when fully cast torrent, than yeah pvp SP is f*ed
It spawns on cast @@ziggs123
@ziggs123 rift is still procs if the cast is stopped, was tested yesterday.
So they finally gave us that black hole talent u were talking about back in bfa, sorta
Sorta, now just need to make it an actual CC!
Yeah Dark energy ftw.
How will it feel using Void Eruption/PI/Pot, do you pop CDs before just sitting in Void Torrent, or will you take 2 seconds of your Entropic Rift using GCDs to pop cooldowns? Seems clunky either way, but I have been out of the game for a bit, I could be way off.
Rotation breakdown video came out today! And the written guide is here: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
TLDR you go something like Vampiric Touch > Shadowfiend > Mind Blast x2 > Void Eruption > Potion + Power Infusion + On-use trinkets > Devouring Plague (if you started with enough insanity from Divine Star/Halo/etc) > Void Bolt > Mind Blast twice > Void Torrent
Awesome! Thanks man, I'll check it out. I'm excited to see the future of playing shadow
Oh yea been waiting for this video😂
Seems fun, but a bit weird that the vfx of the "rift" wasn't tore open right at where the enemy stands but sent out by the priest and "flew" to the location. So, you may have to wait for its arrival.
Also, new vfx for Void Torrent is cool, but feels a bit too dark. Void Blast vfx is cool as well. I thought it was another channeling spell when I watched the play style video. I misunderstood. 😂
Melee players will hate us, this is going to hide enemy aoe ground affects.
None of these effects look cool...the rift should have looked somewhat like this ua-cam.com/users/shortssp5o9hal-f0
Instead they just reused the laziest animation they could find.
Would embrace the shadow make shadow word death actually heal you now? 😮
Yes!
I wonder what the range on Void Leech is. It says "nearby" which makes me think ~12 yd. If that's the case, Embrace the Shadow will be far superior in dungeons at least. It probably will be anyway, but in raids it will be much easier to be near someone to leech from.
Other than that, this looks like a very positive start for Shadow hero talents! Especially Dark Energy. For some unknown reason, i'm expecting that to be nerfed to the ground before release :(
Making a guess based on spell data i think it might be 25 yards
Ok now make PI a personal for priests and revert the percentage nerf on it
If you take voidwraith is there any point in taking mindbender at all? Would the dps go up or is it basically a refunded talent point?
Right now its a totally redundant talent point, even though Inescapable Torment _does_ work. So not sure if thats a bug or not.
Wait, this tree is shared with disc? Do the talents morph for disc or are they making void torrent baseline for disc? Or am I missing something
Yes some of the spells are different for disc. They start with blast and extend with smite
I hate that shadow/void is becoming glitter and stardust. I wish the effects were kept shadowy and less cosmic.
I agree 100% I want to feel like a mad priest that slips slowly into the dark and not like a space fairy
I don’t understand how half of these talents will apply to disc priest
A lot of it is where they change the spell that triggers it. So instead of void torrent it’s mind blast, and instead of devouring plague hits it’s penance ticks
wait im confused how is this also disc? is it not a healer spec?
It is but they change some of the spells to do things slightly differently for Disc.
Why is wow head saying to me entropic rift gets triggerd of a mind blast
That is the Discipline Priest version, for Shadow it is Void Torrent.
i just realized they changed it from mind blast to void torrent.
Mind blast is the disc version
@@Publikwow that makes sense, i was going off the wowhead post.
Your intro sounds like a minecraft top ten channel not like wow😂❤
I wish Shadow Crash would be easier to use.
I dont understand the talent tree. Now we have 3(!!!) talent trees… for what we need more talents 🤷♂️
Basically you have your normal class/spec trees still. And then in addition to that as a Shadow Priest you choose either Archon (not out yet) or Voidweaver for an additional set of talents. Most of them are fixed and not choices.
Mans does not understand the "RPG" in MMORPG
Thinking of switching back to shadow next xpac (been a lock for df). These hero talents seem to be much better designed than the locks
Plenty of time still! Hopefully they get all of them into a good state.
Damn bro the #1 spriest content creator didn’t get an alpha invite?
I got alpha! Just not the creator NDA stuff
@@Publikwow oh nice I figured you’d have your own footage trying out the hero talents if you got into the alpha
16 - 8 = 10
Blizz " we detected shadow priest enjoying the spec...we must nerf to balance the force"
To each their own, but imho void blast looks like shlt...they have made a bunch of cool cosmic void animations for a bunch of mobs and even that plunderstorm skill had an amazing expanding void animation...but when it come to player skills the best they can come up with is "two dark purple lines"? Really? Has the bar been set so low?
These "void" skills look just like any other shadow priest skill.
This is what cosmic void is supposed to look like: ua-cam.com/video/NMoktu57YVs/v-deo.html
I am dissapointed with the animations for years now... especially for priests. I was also super excited when they announced the ultimate penance skill (or whatever it is called). And then it was just some recycled animation again. Also, priest STILL has a lot of spell effects that are the same since WoW came out. Like what? Smite, Holy Fire, PW:S, the stamina buff... there is so much stuff they need to update imo. Even the "new" spells should get an update. But I guess most players dont care about this.
@@kattostudio3874 I find it so odd how WoW player don't seen to care about VFX...
It wouldn't even be much work updating some skills, considering how many of them already have updated versions being used by mobs.
We are coming from an expansion full of cool cosmic void skills and going into one with a relevant npc that will likely have some amazing void vfx...
But nope, the best we can do is reuse mind flay and call it "cosmic blast" somebody kll me pls.
By biggest problem with Spriest is mindgame and halo. Remove them, they just clutter the gameplay
I find this style of having three talent trees very confusing.😐
I will not roll spriest I promise :/
I lied I'm rerolling spriest lmfao.
Little boring, but nice additions to spriest
another expansion of shadow crash dot application huh, seems like that's the future of shadow, being a lame ass dragonflight piece of goo spec forever
You should take a drink of water before recording. Throughout the video we were listening to your mouth smacking before every sentence.