Steven Crowder Is Just Pro-Rape
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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When he switches between saying that only pretty women get assaulted and saying that pretty women don’t ever get assaulted, he’s implying that women lie about assault in order to feel prettier.
Holy shit the misogyny is incredible
He not implying anything he doesn’t think it’s a problem. Just evil.
No he's just saying rape isn't an excuse to cut in line at the store. Do you feel all rape victims should get front of line access at all times? cuz I don't lol
@@lordgigglesnort3845 My guy, they never used rape as an excuse to cut in line.
Maybe in Crowder's warped mind normal 7/10 ladies get assaulted
''not one victoria's secret model has been r*ed'' crowder just casually ignoring the hundreds, if not thousands, of models, hollywood actresses, singers etc (who are usually conventionally attractive) who have been assaulted. ''the casting couch'' is a real thing. young women being told to sleep with the director/photographer/man in a position of power if they ''want to make it big'' is a real thing.
i'd also like to point out that little kids, babies and the elderly get r*ed all the time. does crowder think they're hot?
Let be honest, the man only care about downplaying the issue and trying to normalize laughing about it to kill empathy in his audience
Not just the casting couch, look at Weinstein. He visited some actresses and raped them in their own hotel rooms and homes. It's not taking no for an an answer as well as coercive
@@daryno9048 correct
Well yes, facts and logic counter his disgusting words so he just ignores them.
Yes, he does. He’s just trying to lay the groundwork for a counter to allegations that are coming soon. That’s gotta be the only reason he would do this, right?
I love how he says "if I'm a rapist..." okay Steven, you don't have to get all hypothetical on us. Just say the quiet part out loud already
@@Ass_of_Amalek And i'm sure he has a black friend. No 2 men would ever have a conversation like that without a reason. Nobody could ever convince me that Crowder has not sexually abused somebody after this. No man would say that. Even people that like to say shocking things for attention would not say that. Ben Shapiro is a lowlife but even he would never say that. What's a bet that this is pre-emptive from crowder because someone might be thinking about saying something.
@@Ass_of_Amalek the juice is a hero
Oh completely right, Crowder. That's why elders are never assaulted, children are never assaulted, men are never assaulted, animals are never assaulted. It's only ever people _you_ find attractive, Crowder. The rest can all fade away... Ugh.
Seriously though, for anyone wondering- sexual assault is most often about power over the victim. It's not so much about "attraction".
Wonder if we could peek open Crowder's brain, see what someone who just seems to revel in cruelty looks like. Because something about them can't be human, yeah?
Reptoid?
That's it, he only cares about attractive people and not people in general which is why he came up with that stupid argument. However, it seems he doesn't even acknowledge that attractive people in the media industry can also be victims of sexual assault. I guess he just doesn't care about anyone at all, just wants to disagree with the opposite to feel special.
That was gonna be the point I was gonna bring up. Like nah dude it's not about attraction. Plus everything you said and to point out beauty is subjective anyway so even with his thinking different kinds of people would be targeted. It's just very flawed logic.
@@AtlisDe It's his way of cruelly dismissing sexual assault claims- either you were "too attractive and should have expected it" or "too ugly and it didn't actually happen".
It's not a new sentiment by any means, but it's a disgusting one.
Bold of you to assume Crowder doesn't find children attractive
“I’m not a r*pist but…” is a wild combination of sounds for someone to allow to leave their face.
Has anyone ever explained to them that if you say "but" after anything, you're basically negating the first statement in order to add credence to the following statement?
Its like the "im not a racist but" bit.
Anyone who puts "but" after "I am not" is the thing they are claiming to not be.
The way you wrote that has me in hysterics. Thank you for existing.
I'm not a rapist, but... if I was that would be very bad.
I think I found the one acceptable use of that phrase.
@@ScoopMeisterGeneral Hey, that's pretty good
I have a coworker who loves crowder and when asked why he just said "he's a funny guy". He basically just doesn't process stuff he listens to, and when issues are pointed out he just says "you're twisting it". Truly unreachable.
Just imagining this guy makes me not want to go outside for a month.
Some people just want to be cruel, but instead of admitting it they just chalk it up to “comedy.” And then when you point it out, they just say that you can’t take a joke.
@@jimbob9407 Lol, tard wee-woo wee-woo
I have a suspicion that he does understand and your coworker is truly just a jerk lol
@@jimbob9407 you’re gross
I swear Steven Crowder is basically Onision's brother. Both have done and said completley whacked out and indefensible things and then tried to play it off using the "I'M A COMEDIAN!" card not knowing that labeling yourself a comedian would actually require being funny.
Onision is at least legit psycho crowder is just a shock jock
They're polar opposites when it comes to political views but their insanity is just the same.
@@Ass_of_Amalek wait who’s?
@@Ass_of_Amalek … what?🤨 oh wait, is this the ok buddy Vaush stuff where we jokingly accuse Vaush of doing every bad thing in the entire world? Because if so, true comrade, vowsh is the most transphobic racist homophobic monster on the planet.😤
@@BlueTyphoon2017 crowder and onision
This woman was clearly having a PTSD episode. For someone who's got diagnosable symptoms of PTSD, such as from a rape, they often will not be able to avoid getting triggered by even very simple reminders of a trigger such as a touch, even an unintentional one. She needs support and to be removed from the negative stimulus and to a safe space. These are normal symptoms of PTSD. Please, understand, mental illness is not a joke. As Vaush said, someone in that state, their brain is temporarily soup. They are unable to cope. The man involved may not have even done anything intentionally wrong, but ffs, our society needs to have some semblance of mental health literacy.
Not even mental health literacy, just a basic amount of empathy. Like, clearly this lady is having a really bad time and it could have been so simple from this guy to just go: "Sorry, I'm gonna go now" and leave the situation.
The guy's reaction might not have been the most rational but it's perfectly understandable. If a stranger freaks out at you in public for no apparent reason, demands that you leave and shouts extremely loudly, replying with annoyance or arguing with them is perfectly understandable. I'd guess that most people would argue in such a situation instead of just leaving.
@@anonymous_4276 Why though? To hear the other person yell more? Nobody is going to just get out of their mental health episode by debating them. All you’re doing at that point, as pointed out in the video, is acting just as poorly and making a bad situation worse.
SHE CUT IN LINE. LMAO! U ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR GUYS.
For real, even if you just assume the woman was on drugs or something, why would you stand there recording her and mocking her, making more of a scene of the situation. When someone behaves like that, you remove yourself from their space unless you are there to help and are qualified to do so.
Vaush’s take on the video is completely correct. Humans are not as rational as we think we are. Sometimes ppl aren’t in control and have a meltdown over ‘irrational’ things. The last thing someone should do is record and post online for everyone to mock
Yeah, which makes it bizarre that everyone expects the guy recording to be 100% rational like vaush saying "why did he defend himself if uh clearly from an empirical standpoint he was not to blame uh if I was there I would've just expertly handled it with care and effortless grace unlike this absolute buffoon"
Everybody always has the perfect answers from the comfort of their couch, after the fact and detached from the scenario.
@@lx4079 Now you're just projecting full-on. Wow. Literally no self-awareness.
@@lx4079 He recording was not wrong just in case he gets in trouble posting a mental breakdown of a person is wrong.
@@lx4079 I agree to an extent, you can’t expect everyone to know how to handle someone having a mental health episode. The biggest issue isn’t his reaction in the heat of the moment, it’s that he plastered it on social media afterwards, basically saying ‘hey look at this weirdo! She’s crazy lol’.
There was no reason to do that beyond seeking attention and humiliating her. Her episode is now public for millions to mock, forever.
@@lx4079 you would be correct if he didnt also upload it to use as ammo in the culture wars on twitter - so his behavior at the time is also tainted.
If I had touched or whatever some lin cutter and they exploded like that, my first instinct is not get away from the situation, has been every time something weird happens.
Guess I am not a 'real' man - a 'real' mean who respond by just digging in, apparently.
seeing vaush yell at chat and give genuine, solid advice about mental health outbursts in public was honestly so refreshing. to many times people forget that these are mentally ill people who need help and just point and laugh. im really glad that vaush took the time to explain what to do and how to handle people having these breakdowns.
dude in cave explains to smaller dumber dudes in caves how to behave outside of their eternal habitat
@@lx4079 lmao alright, I tried good faith but your takes literally just get more reactionary and brainless by the minute.
ok i get it but can you really blame the guy for acting defensive here? i don't think he acted well in that situation but , for a random person, that would just be a normal reaction when they see someone acting "crazy"
@@fredotony He could have walked away while recording if he just wanted to defend himself, so it's a bit sus.
@@FelisImpurrator what i'm tryna say is most people won't just let what they see as disrespect slide like that and, by the time it gets obvious that they're dealing with a person having a mental breakdown, they already puffed their chest too much to just walk away. if anything, i blame the american school system for not teaching kids how to deal with these kinds of situation
"Let's define rape"
"Let's define genocide"
What follows is usually apologia for both
as if there arent fckn definitions already.
@@hurensohn7605 We used to have definitions until Marxist lunatics decided to start changing them all. What is a woman?
I am over 60 years old now and I had a talk with my 56 year old sister. We often joked how we grew up in a safe, supportive family with very progressive blue collar parents. My sister told me that nearly every single one of her female friends and classmates was sexually abused or assaulted at one time or another. Usually by their family members or close friends of their families. Violence against women is much more prevalent than I ever imagined. I was blind to the toxic behavior that so many men engaged in.
That's because you have lower testosterone grandpa. It's the hallmark of leftist men everywhere along with a required vasectomy. You may want to get it checked.
@@theresaurus9820 Nice try. But you still are junior varsity trolling.
@@theresaurus9820 Your fake leftist trolling is pretty low effort. Seriously, every single comment I've seen from you is eye-wateringly stupid.
Either that or you actually have the brain of a very angry child, because your takes are literally just the right-wing parody of the left.
@@theresaurus9820 Not everyone has the spare time to perpetually live on UA-cam and respond in under 10 minutes to an obvious troll, my boy.
@@theresaurus9820 how’s the 8th grade going?
Dude, honestly, I fear for the women in (and those who were in) Steven's life. Like, he must've... with this attitude... commited some sort of crime.
He's got a pair of twin daughters.
@@HeronSight oh lord oh god
@@HeronSight I'm sure they'll come out well adjusted with a father like this 💀
Crowder is somehow both pathetic and dangerous. These types of people are the absolute worst of humanity.
@@xxxfairycorpsexxx7592 the first thing he did when they were born was make a gender identity joke on twitter. They're either gonna grow like him or hate his guts.
Those chat takes were some of the most disgusting and disheartening things I've ever seen. Making a spectacle out of people with serious mental health episodes is actual demon behavior. Trust me the woman in the video probably already wanted to kill herself after what happened, I'm sure the recording of it being shared around and getting 5 million views only pushed her closer, just to see people in Vaush's chat defend it. Just gross
I can't read the chat, what did they say?
Right? Unless the person having the episode is trying/threatening to hurt you, just leave them alone. Don't record, don't engage, just leave when you can.
@@Gloomdrake a few people were shitting on the lady for not having composure in the midst of a mental breakdown. Pretty gross stuff
To be fair people are responsible for their behavior in public. Not that they should be shit on. When you cut in front of an entire line guess what you cant use your PTSD as an excuse. Saying this as a rape and trauma survivor... DONT CUT IN LINE -- dont USE your mental issues as an excuse to do antisocial behavior. OF COURSE people will call her out. The spectacle is of her own design. In public you have no expectation of privacy to the point where you can scream and make a scene and expect everyone to protect your identity when you do.
@UCyfj9FqmuqSZ6bHW4h6iUZA the problem with having a mental breakdown is that you're not fully in control during, so it's not fair to shame for it
The take away is that we all need to practice empathy for strangers a little more
The qrts on Twitter for this video make me want to die. Zero empathy
@@daisysarasaland.7697 if it makes you feel better those people are absolutely going to die alone or in jail, assuming they're not just dumb teenagers. im just hoping that comes sooner than later
War veterans might have a PTSD episode if they're near fireworks. A woman who has been traumatized had a PTSD episode after being touched by a man, but she gets filmed and harassed. He literally could have just left her alone. She obviously needed space.
To be fair its not like anyone really gives a damn about vets with PTSD.
Literally there are homeless vets all over America so its clear Americans really do not care.
So its not a surprise people would have a weird take on a woman having issues after being raped.
America has this sick ideal of pull yourself up no matter how mentally wrecked you get.
Some can do it but a lot can't.
@@ludovicusbathory1715 that's true :(
@@ludovicusbathory1715 A lot of Americans do care. Just not the ones in positions of power.
He didn't touch her though. They checked the security cameras and he never once touched her.
@@gem9535 That doesn't change the fact that it triggered a mental break down in the woman. I don't think it was anyone's fault for her being triggered, she didn't asked for that to be her trigger and he didn't want to trigger someone to the point of a mental break down. What matters is how he continued to aggravate her after the fact.
I feel that if the person having the mental break down tells you (or yells at you) that you are causing them to have a break down or you are making it worse, it is common sense to remove yourself from that situation and find another line to pay for your groceries. Thus the mental breakdown person can get into a sane state of mind easier and you can carry on with your day.
Bro the lady in the video makes me feel so bad. And she explained herself as best as she could in the moment, right? She said "I was sexually assaulted recently and I can't handle it rn". It doesn't get any clearer than that. Like at that point in time it's not about you; just go about your day and don't make the situation worse.
Like I guess employees at wherever this is aren't trained on it, but like I think it would have been good for them to try to relocate her to a safer place where she can better compose herself.
But if they did that they wouldn't be able to get their jollies by watching her suffer. This is what you have to understand about the conservative brain. They are sadistic. They legitimately gain pleasure from making shit like this worse and generally inflicting as much pain and suffering as is possible.
"it's not about you, person who is the sole focus of the woman's ire, you selfishly haven't considered the woman might feel hurt" also he was literally going on about his day by standing there and trying to finish his shopping trip, but if someone initiates a conversation with you it's cordial to reply
That's what I don't get about the braindead reactionary take on this subject. She literally did as well as anyone having a panic attack could possibly manage in trying to warn others that her mental state was unstable. That is the reasonable upper limit for any expectation that can be placed on a PTSD sufferer, especially a recent one, and she met it.
This is like... Basic cognitive psychology shit.
I dunno man he said she threw his stuff, and given she was also screaming about him touching her, it probably pays to film in case she did go to the police or something. obviously publicly posting it makes his intent questionable but I don't think he's doing anything wrong by objecting to being screamed at by a random woman in the supermarket who cut in line. it's not his problem to deal with her mental health crisis when her mental health crisis involves actively antagonising him. saying he should just go about his day is essentially saying 'just let people say awful shit to you because mental health'. there's being considerate and then there's being a doormat.
@@lx4079 yeah so like they said very self centered take. 🙄 She literally explained, to the best of her ability, that she is having an irrational terror reaction to his presence. She said "you touched me", not "you raped me" or "that man needs to be punished". Standing there in close proximity and pointing a camera at her while repeatedly initiating dialogue while she tries to hide her face and calm down, I'm sorry to tell you, is NOT going about his business lmao - it's staying in hers. He is within his right to film if he feels unsafe but he could have done that from a distance, maybe while waiting to give the manager a preemptive statement to cover himself, there were plenty of staff around her and there's a reason that even these underpaid undertrained employees knew to move him away from the situation to be served at another till. If they blamed him, denied him service, kicked him out, or pressed charges, you bet your ass he would have posted that. He just wanted the world to know he is the victim of this woman's trauma.
At 12:00 I saw that circulating on Twitter and people were being so mean to that woman and I was so incredibly mad, blaming her for basically everything. Yes, she is responsible, BUT SHE'S LITERALLY HAVING A BREAKDOWN and mental health crisis. I don't mind if that guy filmed for his own safety, but that he posted it online and saying was beyond gross to me
It's so disgusting. I hate when stuff like this comes around because the rest of the time it's so easy to blissfully ignore how utterly lacking in empathy most people are. :(
This poor woman.
I'd say him recording it was completely unnecessary. Even if she tried to accuse of something (which she wasn't really doing), then recording after the fact gives him nothing. If there were no security cameras, then there's no evidence and it's word against word. But if there's CCTV (which is very likely), then there's already recording of everything, so him pulling out a phone in her face is pointless and only makes it worse.
If he really wanted to record for safety and just in case, he could've just turn on the camera and just hold the phone normally and discrectly recording everything. No need to hold it up.
I know old comment, but I wanted to weigh in:
I get that, and agree. I randomly had a woman suddenly talking to me saying "she saw what I did",
I had no idea what she meant, so I said:
"Excuse me?"
"You're stealing peanut butter." She replied.
"Uh...no?" I said, very confused.
Not only did she keep saying she sees me stealing peanut butter, but kept saying it louder.
I decided to just walk away from that aisle (I wasn't even next to the peanut butter, nor did I want to buy it then anyway).
But like I'd either record the person or walk away. The recording for personal protection.
The woman having a mental health incident didn't actually accuse the guy filming of doing anything more than having touched her (not even in an inappropriate way).
She said that she had been r**ed recently and that she couldn't stand being touched by a man.
Granted, the guy filming said that he didn't touch her, but that's literally the extent of the potential false accusation: whether or not he touched her.
Yep. Also heard her warn him that he’s making it worse. All things considered she was holding together fairly well.
People can bitch all they want about her not taking responsibility, but from an objective standpoint, she literally did. It's baffling.
@@WhenToastersAttack very bold to accuse a person you accosted for no reason of making things worse by defending himself
@@lx4079 lol ok kid
People tend to get defensive when they feel as if they are being accused of something, especially in public. It’s easy for the people in the comments to say “oh she has PTSD, how dare he do x,” but think if you were going about your day, completely unaware of mental illness, and completely unprepared for any kind of confrontation.
Then, in public, some woman freaks out because you “touched” her. To the average person, she’s fucking crazy and just ruined your day by having a meltdown based around something harmless you did. He can’t just know if she has a specific mental illness, he’s just acting on instinct.
Steven Crowder unironically misunderstanding the concept of rape and then joking about it on his show is actually vile.
People have really taken the "haha triggered" thing to heart and seem to think triggers aren't actually incredibly real. You get it when you're walking through a store and see a random box that makes you cry because it reminds you of your childhood. I've had a lot of panic attacks in public and never feels good or gets any better, it's painful every single time. This lady probably will never come back to this store out of embarrassment, she really just needed to be left alone to finish her stuff and get to a space she feels better.
And 90% of it is the years of edgy teens and republicans spewing the whole "LiB tRigGerEd" over and over, it's disgusting.
Agreed on all counts. It feels dumb to say because it's so incredibly minor compared to people with PTSD, but I went to the hospital once and stayed there for months due a medical issue that I was given 50/50 odds of surviving, and was in incredible pain during the entire time. My side still feels constantly numb from what I assume is some damaged nerves due to the tubes that were running through me.
For a while after that, certain smells or even temperatures would remind me of the hospital, typically public restroom soap. I wouldn't have a situation like this, but my blood would run cold and it would take me a minute to clear my head.
I used to be like that when I was like 14... Ashamed to admit that it was my own traumatic experience that woke me up. Don't think I have PTSD but in certain situations that remind of the event I feel kind of anxious.
"This lady probably will never come back to this store out of embarrassment, she really just needed to be left alone to finish her stuff and get to a space she feels better."
Considering she shoved him, threw his stuff out, said "fuck you" and "you're not sorry" then went on online to accuse him of assault, this doesn't sound like the behavior of someone merely having a fit and feeling embarrassed about it afterwards.
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 all I see is the video here that doesn't show any of that behavior
This was legitimately nuts. I have learned to expect the absolute worst from Crowder but he just keeps pushing the bar lower…
What event are you referring to?
@@Gloomdrake his comments from the vid about discussing the attractiveness of r*pe victims
@@bobbun4369 you… you are chalking what he said up to a joke?
@@bobbun4369 I did and it was pretty bad. You seem too emotionally invested to see clearly.
@@MacabreStorytelling Crowder fans will call everything Crowder says a joke in public because they're all cowards. They know they can't defend his language to you, so they're trying to convince you that you're the crazy one for having a problem with his language
I've had mental breakdowns and meltdowns in public (I'm autistic) and yeah, if someone was arguing with me, it would make everything so much fucking worse. YOU ARE NOT IN CONTROL going through something like this.
@Kayleigh I'm also autistic and the idea of drawing attention like this, that's not in my control and being a show for gawkers terrified me as a kid. I'm lucky that things have never been so overwhelming that an overload or meltdown happens, but still it's a terrifying prospect given the absolute cruelty of people like Crowder.
As cringe as that video is, when it comes to breakdowns like that, you have limited control. I also thought the video kinda emphasized that the man thought that her briefly cutting in line is much more importance than anything possibly going on in her life. I don't know if he was filming her to humiliate her or to laugh at her later, but that is one situation where he was acting out of aggrieved entitlement (as in, he plays dumb and eggs her on because hes upset. Disgustful behaviour.
@@ideasinthegord3915 I've found that "normal" as a concept often carries a sense of entitlement from people who can't make a good argument for why they shouldn't try to accommodate other people's needs.
I'm autistic as well, and having meltdowns in public sucks. I'm lucky that most of the people who were around me when I had public meltdowns understood that I didn't WANT to be beating the shit out of myself in public. Someone talking to me in those moments the way that guy talked to that woman would make it so much worse.
even that one employee that kept saying "calm down" wasn't helping the situation. I've learned when you tell people to calm down, it is very invalidating and makes them want to yell louder.
@@amyswallow742 While that's very true, the average retail worker has next to no actual training to deal with this kind of crisis, and unless theyve personally dealt with that themselves, there is only so much they can do, especially while on the clock. If she tried to go up to the man and forced him to stop recording, he could have tried to sue her for assault for instance.
Being told to "calm down" when you're in that kind of spiral certainly doesn't help anyone, but I cant really blame her for how the situation escalated.
Rape is a crime of hatred. Sickening.
Its nothing but hatred and power truly horrendous
A rapist can only do what they do because they’re capable of completely dehumanizing their victims. I think it may be even beyond hate. They dont even acknowledge their victim as a feeling human being. Rapists often, (as a lot of other types of criminals do), choose victims they believe to be weak and incapable of defending themselves. This is a big reason why older women are raped. It fills me to the brim with rage to think about this stuff. The women I’ve known who were raped have been so profoundly affected, and it lasts a lifetime.
I had a mental health episode in public, it only affected close friends and family, and I still feel absurdly bad about it to this day, that lady doesn't need the addrd cruelty of being publicly shamed and used as ball in the rape apologia game these people play.
I have ADHD and've had some outbursts and mental breakdowns in front of my family and ex-boyfriend (wasn't diagnosed until last year), and I also feel incredibly guilty and ashamed because of it. Can't even grasp what it'd be like to have such a vulnerable moment of your life displayed on the internet.
@@eurekamreum5458 I've had literal violent outbursts as a result of severe PTSD involving violent trauma and bullying. Even though I'm extremely stable and low in affect about 95% of the time, the other 5% can be a clusterfuck. I'm getting better about them over time, but people really have no clue just how little control a traumatic episode leaves an individual with.
I had an episode of psychosis for a few days, and while I feel bad that my family got scared, I also don't feel ashamed of it, because my brain just broke. Got hospitalized and stabilized, I'm on meds now, and been good since. I'm mostly just fascinated at the way I was thinking while psychotic; it was really like operating on dream logic. I hope that by remembering what it was like, I can make sure to spot the signs of it if it ever happens again to keep myself in control better.
While I don't recommend psychosis, it was a fascinating 1-2 weeks and I'm glad to have the experience to understand what it's like from the inside.
Having it filmed and people dogpiling on it would have been awful though, so I feel bad for that poor woman having her episode go viral and getting demonized by Crowder and his ilk, though. THAT'S some scummy shit. I hope she's okay.
I went through a similar thing. The guilt is awful. Hang in there
meanwhile people have 3rd world problems
My cousin said something similar about me in adolescence. Stephen Crowder never matured past 11 year old edgy brain.
lol True
Ouch, I'm really sorry your cousin was like that. That sounds horrible
@@darnfrick3354 lol, he never matured either. He's still offended and confused about why we don't have a relationship in adulthood. Good riddance to bad garbage is what I say.
@@embluvya Yeah, really at that point if someone doesn't get it then they deliberately don't want to. Good people usually reflect
No wonder Steven Coward won't debate Sam Seder, it would be a Bloodbath.
cold feet crowder debating my left toenail would be a bloodbath
@@2FadeMusic 👍🏿
" WHAT A FUCKING NIGHTMARE " it would be, amirite
Crowder would never debate anyone who could potentially upset his pre-planned narratives.
I'm so glad you talked about that video of the girl having a mental breakdown. I see them all the time on r/all from subs that kind of fetishize when people who do this get hurt in some way. It frustrates me to no end.
And it just keeps happening. And everytime I'm like " you potentially ruined a person's life because you were mildly inconveniced you dick."
I genuinely don't understand why people want to watch that shit
Omfg why does reddit do that shit wtf
I can’t finish vaush’s video it’s too painful to watch that girl be humiliated like that
@@darthdarth4297 legit that woman’s screaming was activating some kind of primal terror in me. Had to pause the vid myself and reflect on how absolutely awful it was for the filmer to be there in that situation and try to egg someone on who was flying that much off of the handle. It’s ESPECIALLY awful for other people to watch that and make it into a spectacle of mockery and ridicule.
@@MsScarletwings you are hopelessly sheltered if you think a person reflexively defending themselves from a potentially dangerous screeching person is "egging them on" and not what most people would've done
Stop expecting real life people to act the way you ideally think they should, and you'd be a lot less disappointed
Most of the people giving her a shitty time for her panic attack claim to be mental health advocates or push for some form of mental health awareness. Almost like people who have never had mental health issues or family and friends with mental health problems should bother to actually educate themselves on what they advocate for.
Chatters arguing about whether she's having a breakdown are honestly gross and you people would call the cops if someone started having a public breakdown.
part of what makes some people like Vaush is the moving people oever part - well new movers still need some time to learn. At least, that is what I am going with.
I recently had a spat with a family member who is diagnosed bipolar and people who suffer from PTSD and other disorders that cause meltdowns truly do not WANT to be behaving in this way. The screaming and crying are the result of such strong chemicals being shot through the brain that it literally feels like if it doesn't get let out somehow, you'll just die. Yes, that's not rational, but it doesn't have to be. It's mental fucking health. Just like how a broken leg isn't rational. It just *is*.
i recently had a panic attack where i could feel it building up in my body and i didnt matter how much i tried composing myself because i was in public my body HAD to cry. its like when you have a heart attack you cant logic your way out of it humans are emotional being and anyone whos making fun of her is honestly so gross to me
people who make fun if mentally ill people probably also wonder why a computer with a damaged CPU doesnt work.
The get out feeling reminds me of when i was depressed two hears back and had a fear of travelling. Even a 5 min car ride would be a huge ordeal. I remember one trip was 45 minutes and it was so hellish, i was trying to open the car door to get out... in the middle of the motorway where doing so would be death but i didnt care, i just wanted to get out.
This behavior from the crowd and man filming is, in my opinion, a symptom of how we as a society treat PTSD. Apparently, it's only valid if you were a soldier. Everyone understands how fireworks and cars backfiring could trigger a veteran, but all of a sudden we are confused and surprised when a woman who said she was recently raped reacts irrationally to a touch from a man.
Both stimuli are equally harmless to the person with PTSD in a physical sense, but the response is the same. We need to treat them with the same degree of empathy.
Peanut butter and jelly, cookies and milk, and conservatism and cruelty
On a slice of whole-pain bread
Conservatives statistically donate more to charities than liberals. Proven by data and research. Cope harder......
I lived in Germany. One of my flatmates had a week-long breakdown screaming all through the night. Someone called the police 3 times that week, the cops were good looking 30 year Olds, said they can't do anything because he's not an immediate danger then left. Eventually, our hausmeister (property manager) came and convinced him to check himself into a mental health hospital. It turns out that his host/adoptive family in Germany (he was from the ivory coast) was disowning him for doing poorly in state exams and he thought he would be homeless soon and his family wouldn't speak to him. Idk why people wouldn't be concerned and instead antagonize or record for any reason other than a believe that they're a threat for people.
Because unlike the woman in the video, your flatmate wasn't making their breakdown everyone else's problem, demanding you guys move out and antagonizing you by going "fuck you" and "you're not sorry!"
I think she is having a genuine PTSD breakdown but there's still a definite element of volition and shitty behavior nonetheless. Breakdowns don't make you an asshole/bitch, which is why I think totally absolving her of any responsibility is ridiculous.
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 I don't think you understand how mental illness, or trauma works, even a little. Breakdowns can make you act out. Just because how a mentally ill person is acting, is making you uncomfortable does not mean they aren't mentally ill and that their suffering is invalid. It's honestly disgusting that you chose to make such an assertion while knowing so little. I'm very sick and tired of people thinking that the small inconvenience caused by other peoples' breakdowns to themself is more important than those peoples' mental health and sometimes entire life. Educate yourself.
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 The neighbors called the police so clearly that flatmate was "Making their mental breakdown everyone else's problem." Idk where you live to think screaming in the middle of the night is acceptable behavior and isn't an assholish thing to do.
Can I ask why you mentioned they were good-looking? 😭😭
@@desmondtheneworder918 First of all, I don't think screaming in the middle of the night and annoying everybody else is acceptably behavior and I never said it is. What I meant was that it's still not on the same level as purposefully antagonizing somebody and asking them to remove themselves from a situation because YOU can't deal with your problems. The purpose of my comment was to highlight that the situation of the flatmate and the woman in the video are not the same.
What’s it gonna take for UA-cam to finally get rid of this guy. No one else has broken tos as much as him only to always get off with a slap on the wrist.
I'm about to break some kind of ToS just fucking watching him say this shit.
Crowder plays a game where he tries to get censored so he can get clout of the back of the notoriety, he's dishonest and evil.
Maybe he hasn't broken the tos as much as you think otherwise surely youtube would have removed him?
@@SuperJJParker he gets banned almost every month. And yet he has the nuts to say the right is oppressed
@@lich.possum why hasn't he been banned foe good then?
actual demon from hell
@@bobbun4369 you heard me, bob
Nah
Demons are hot and/or scary and he is neither.
@@bobbun4369 yeah, seems pretty reasonable to call someone who openly says that black people deserve to be killed by cops, Trans people deserve to be persecuted, teachers deserve to be poor or fired for teaching kids things he disagrees with, gays deserve to have their rights taken away, and rape victims deserve to be ignored or insulted when they open up about their traumatic experiences a demon.
@@yaboye3791 That his idiocy appeals to anyone with a functioning nervous system is definitely a cause for consternation.
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos True
But he's not a demon, just a (redacted per yt guidelines)
Maybe if you’ve lived in a suburb your whole life and have never seen another person then you wouldn’t know how to deal with someone having a breakdown in public. Otherwise literally just engage as minimally as possible and remove yourself from the situation as soon as you’re able. Like voosh said, it’s not a debate, stop trying to be right
It's because people like the guy filming really are getting pleasure out of the situation
@@darnfrick3354 she cut in line and he called her out for it, that's why she's freaking out.
Yeah as you can tell by the absurdly huge amounts of videos of public freakouts in cities, urbanites are experts at dealing with people's breakdowns and definitely don't point and laugh or try to start shit with them
@@shortymccutlery8919 Okay? What does staying there solve? Remove yourself and let others handle it.
@@shortymccutlery8919 NO. No one acts like that if it's *just* about cutting in line. Can you not pick up on social cues? Clearly there's something else going on with her and she's not having a good day. It doesn't excuse her actions, however the part that I was addressing was the guy could obviously tell there was something wrong with her and in response he wants to have a meaningless argument and egg her on, obviously because he enjoys it, also hence him filming it like it's entertaining to him
I hope the woman gets help and finds peace.. :(
I believe Bolsonaro said the same thing. This is very on-brand for Steven "The Brain" Crowder
Yes, this reminded me i stantly of Bolsonaro's "I won't rape you just because you don't deserve it"
Did Jair fucking Bolsonsro, literal leader of the largest country in South America, comment on this video of this random woman's meltdown? Or has he just expressed similar snetiments in the abstract?
They're so comically evil.
who?
@@preciousmourning8310 Take a fucking guess.
You could feel the anger in Emma's voice after TMR went over this segment, and for good reason.
Feel anger? Dog she almost broke into tears
Who’s Emma and tmr?
@@FishSticker Emma from The Majority Report
@@FishSticker Emma Vigeland often appears on The Majority Report (TMR) next to Sam Seder. They did a segment on this exact crowder video and she was quite angry about it.
@@alejandrorivas4585 I thought I heard her crying at the end of that, actually.
Actually terrified that someone might record me having a mental breakdown like that in public. You could hear the terror in her voice. When your brain goes like that it's one or two thoughs really loud and your body starts acting on instinct until you're "safe".
Our culture is sick. I cannot believe anyone is defending Crowder of the guy from the Walmart. I swear to god if the Walmart guy was a woman people would be calling him a Karen, bc that was prime Karen behavior.
When i first saw that video i thought the guy was just filming to deter a mentally instable person from possibly attacking him, but then i noticed he was clearly hostile and she just wanted to be left alone. And yes, her wailing was extremely annoying and disruptive, but the guy harassing her deserves 100% of the shit while she deserves none.
100% he's a Karen
What the fuck are you talking about, people are calling the woman a Karen lmao you are so culturally out of touch "the guy was the real asshole and a KAREN cause he recorded the person who had an outburst at him!" Yeah buddy go submit the video with that narrative and see how many people believe you
Yeah if the recorder was a woman, I think his behavior would ~trigger~ way more people. Many of the viral videos of so called "Karens" that I've seen involved women who weren't screaming or physically violent. Just acting entitled, and/or having the wrong tone of voice. There are videos of "Karens" that with the volume off, look like they're behaving not that much differently than other "polite" women (to the comments saying this dude was being perfectly polite, etc.).
Plus, imagine if the woman being filmed was a dude.
The entire discourse would be centered on "how we don't take the rape of men seriously," "how we dismiss men's feelings," "this is why men don't seek treatment for mental illness," and "how awful it is that this woman saw this man having a mental health episode and decided to pull out her camera and film it and then post it on social media," etc. Mark my words. The woman would be labeled a bitch who took advantage of a male rape victim having a public breakdown in order to win some internet points and go viral on social media (and how "they're literally in public so it's not even like she was worried for her safety," etc.) (And they would be right to do so, because the post would almost definitely lead to a bunch of people online joking about how pathetic the male rape victim was acting, and it would still be a hugely inappropriate move to post it publicly online, etc.)
Absolutely.
Crowder is the hardest for me to stomach by far, just witless and wilful cruelty.
youtube just kloves it tho abnd promotes him.......think of the dystopian nightrmare we are living in where folks get their kicks from cruelty
He's like Matt Walsh's cruelty but raised to a power of 3.
my classmate loves Crowder and hearing him talk to me about Crowder makes my skin crawl
Yeah I can't even watch this video because he reminds me of the douchebags who used to bully me. His "comedy" is for cruel, heartless assholes.
No Matt Walsh is
to think that he has daughters now makes me feel so uneasy
With the girl having the breakdown, I could even hear the clerk or whoever telling him to just walk away. What an a**hole he was.
He sounds like the dude who tips his fedora and smugly insists that people debate him, with a cinnamon swirl of the kid who 'incredulously' insists, "I'm not touching you!"
@@dinosaysrawr you're literally a vaush viewer man this pot isn't even black anymore it's downright abyssal void
No he wasn't, she cut in line and was making a scene because he called her out for it.
@@shortymccutlery8919 Even the clerk told him to leave, don't be a baby.
@@shortymccutlery8919 , that's certainly a possibility, but even so, Vaush is right that the usually-correct response is to stop engaging with someone when they start melting down like that.
I understand recording if you feel unsafe, but actively instigating and escalating is ghoulish behavior
If the chick hadn't cut in line, none of this would've happened
Good thing he mostly just defended himself against her accusations then
@@lx4079 Not in the video I saw.. She didn't accuse him of anything. I understand recording in this situation just in case an accusation does happen, but he was clearly instigating when he could have just moved on, and paid for his shopping.
Then theres the fact that being the totally nice and socially aware guy he is, he chose to upload it. Now tell me that decision was just to defend himself...
Yeah, I get recording it so you can defend yourself in case some accusations get thrown out...but uh, why did he need to make it public? Why did he post it??
Did she publicly accuse him of doing something bad to her and this was the only way to clear his name? Because that's literally the only situation I can imagine where the decision to publicly distribute this footage would be justified in any way.
Nope, seems totally unprovoked. First I'm hearing of this random, completely irrelevant situation...that shouldn't be public, because no crimes were committed. This dude's name wasn't being tarnished by false accusations, no one except the people in the store in that moment even knew this happened and it should be already forgotten. Everyone seems to have moved past it...until he decided to plaster this shit on the internet for attention.
Unless I'm wrong and he was publicly accused of attacking this woman. In which case, even then he had the employees witnessing it and supporting his innocence in real time....with the whole interaction presumably already caught on the store's security cameras.
I just don't get why the whole world needs to see this.
@@comeatmebro8120 if people like you and crowder never existed, things like this wouldn't happen
So…kids who are raped were just super hot? Is that what you’re saying, Stephen?
At around 20:00, I've once had a mini-breakdown and almost assaulted a lady that was bothering me with an umbrella (She was bothering me a lot, but of course I overreacted). And, as soon as I got home, I was in shambles, completely ashamed of that. Also, despite being white, I do worry a lot what would happen if I got to actually hurt her, and potentially police got involved
As someone who does a lot of security work I have some experience with this type of situation.
Personally if somebody decides to start screaming at someone in public because they're having a brain no work moment I'm not gonna argue with them about the actual situation but I will try and dig deep for the chunk of brain still floating in the soup and just tell them what they're doing.
"You are currently having a breakdown. Remove yourself from the situation. Stop screaming. You're ok but you're gonna be very embarrassed about this later so just remove yourself from the equation early before some idiot calls the cops on you for having emotions in public. Please just sit or go in the corner, maybe step outside get some air. Just breath. You are ok but your grip is slipping so pick up your marbles and get it together.
This hasn't failed me once.
I feel so bad for the lady in the video. First she goes through a very traumatic event that literally rewires your brain, then she goes through a public mental breakdown, and THEN someone uploads it on the internet and a bunch of misogynistic assholes laugh at her while claiming only 0.0000000000000000001% of women get raped and the trauma isn't serious and blah blah.
Vaush's talk on mental health was really good and I'm so glad he said that
Sadly tons of people are debatelord filth who care more about their own ego than solving the situation or having even a tiny bit amount of empathy.
Agree
@@acreativename2781 "debatelord filth"-habitual vaush watcher
@@lx4079Do you feel personally attacked?
@@lx4079 I'm more of a Hasan guy actually lol
Honestly, if someone was screaming at me like that out of nowhere I might have a panic attack myself.
Yeah that’s why removal from the situation is honestly best for all parties involved while at least one of you still has the ability to do so
"out of nowhere" ok bro
@@TheFlinchyDinosaur
"Out of nowhere" in the sense of "accidentally touching an ellbow while standing in line".
@@Alias_Anybody we don't even know how this guy touched her, you're making assumptions about a situation you weren't involved in
@@TheFlinchyDinosaur
It's a bit difficult to do something super inappropriate in a packed line at a supermarket without anyone noticing.
Also, you don't know sh*t about the real event either, so why are you crying about a hypothetical?
I was an LDS (Mormon) missionary. Took public transit all the time. We were magnets for mentally unwell people having public outbursts. What that guy did filming and egging that woman on is the worst thing you can do in that situation. If you are the reason the person is losing it the best option is to ignore it or just leave. It's not fair. Their behavior isn't rational. Just get out of line, get off the bus, whatever. You aren't helping anything by prolonging the episode.
I used to be a Mormon as well. Left after finding out how my older sister’s bishop treated her (victim blaming: “what did you do to cause that” type of crap) after she was raped in a home invasion.
I'd probably not want to leave the bus, as this would greatly inconvenience me.
But this guy could've just gone to the other line. He inconvenienced himself by filming the woman and trying to humiliate her for having a mental breakdown.
@@everythingiseconomics9742 She also took his stuff off the line and threw it on the floor. He couldn't exactly 'just leave' without abandoning his things.
@@WhenToastersAttack jesus
@@Revan058 Except he could've just left it there and picked it up once the mental breakdown subsided. It's not like it was purchased at this point so even if something went missing when he returned, he can just go back to where he got it and take something else with zero monetary loss. He literally had no reason why he couldn't just leave for a few minutes.
This is why I agree with everyone who says there should be a mandatory basic psychology class in school. I commend the ladies in the situations for remaining calm in the situation. My temptation for telling the guy to shut up and grabbing him by the collar to drag him out to another register.
Thank you editor for the Pidgeon bit at the end, I think many of us needed that after this video. 💜
Lmao yeah assault the victim of the interaction, great idea
I took a course last year that was basically two weeks of out patient group therapy where we learned a bit about CBT, DBT, and coping mechanisms and to be honest, I feel like it's not the mentally ill who need to be taking that course. If "normal" people could learn literally any empathy for those struggling with mental illness we'd be much better off.
@@Keykatriz Unironically, "normal" is often just shorthand for "pathological behavior the majority has". Sneering judgment of mental illness is itself a deeply toxic mentality born of people's desire to reassure themselves "I'm one of the good ones; I could never do that, because only abnormal people who have something wrong with them do that, and I'm normal!"
@@lx4079 How is he the victim of the interaction?
There’s a billion useless classes out there that could easily be replaced with this. It could do so much good
Ah... so he's an incel?! When I thought he couldn't get any more cringe, he never fails to amaze me with how low he will go.
Spiritually an incel. Unfortunately he has kids
No he got layer and got his children he just panders to losers so he can continue to be rich and famous. When worse comes to worse he would be calling them incels and losers as well.
He has a wife and 2 kids.
@@thekarret2066 and he clearly doesn't get any action these days
@@thekarret2066 somehow.
As annoying as incels are they have some points.
His wife must be every negative image they have of women if she willingly let herself get breed by crowder.
That and there may be some truth to what blaire white said and crowder may not be a complete asshole off camera and is only pandering to the meatheads in America.
The woman was clearly having a PTSD episode. Guy should’ve just left, but to be fair to him not everyone is educated about mental health, it’s better to educate people than snubbing them for not intuitively knowing
Is your chat mentally ill? I work front line dealing with people. Done it for over 25years. Every now and then you talk to someone belligerent. Drunk, on drugs, a month ago I sldelt with a scitzofrenic (he told me he was) I didn't sit there and debate him on the paranoid stuff he was telling me and the accusations he was making about me. I also didn't record it and post it online. Wtf is wrong with people?
Unironically, yes they are
Crowder's car analogy is even more dumb when you realize it's easier stealing old cars than it is new cars
I'm 1,000% with Vaush on empathy with ppl going through smth mentally
And also how not to interact with them
So many ppl don't have half the heart Vaush shows
Every thing Vaush points out is accurate
And people call Vaush the one who's inconsiderate of people's feelings... Often the same people who give him shit for this objectively, empirically, *psychiatrically valid* good take.
I mean, I have basically zero affective empathy (i.e., I have no capacity to physiologically and internally experience other people's feelings) due to being autistic and even I get this. Probably because I have a full capacity for cognitive empathy, which is the ability to UNDERSTAND other people's feelings and comes along with the capacity to introspect about one's internal mental processes. It's to the point that I have to conclude people who argue against this take in principle have the self-awareness of a grape.
I struggle with the disengage part, largely because I also have old PTSD experiences related to violent bullying, leading to sometimes-violent altercations with people who also have trauma or stress-related triggere. But I'm working on that because I'm completely aware that Vaush is correct about how de-escalation works, too.
Thank you Vaush because when I saw that shit on Twitter it was like bizarro world with people mocking them and I was getting attacked for saying they really shouldn't have recorded and uploaded that
This is just heartbreaking..
@@bobbun4369 Because she is mental ill and having a break down. Crowder saw the video basically said the mentally ill woman is to ugly to r@pe.
Everyone thinks different kinds of people are attractive (beautiful in the eye of the beholder). People I'm not attracted to have great sex and make babies and stuff. Lol I'm guessing most r@pe is about access not ehh.. I'm gonna do some r@pes today so I'll find a Victoria Secret model.. might as well!
I wouldn't be surprised if she was doxxed then harassed which makes her worse. I don't like how some people are just cool with posting and probably making fun of people with mental illness.
Like I feel bad for the guy in the video , but he was making it worse. He shouldn't have posted that though.
Just watch the video... I basically completely agree with vaush
@@bobbun4369 You're such a sad individual Bob
@@bobbun4369 I second AK's sentiment.
@@bobbun4369 why does LL gotta justify anything? The statement was "this was sad" and your response was "no it wasn't" wtf even is your point? Like what discussion do you even bring here? What are you even doing?
@@bobbun4369 i mean does the concept of rape not sadden you? Does hearing someone say "nah only hot girls get raped" when plenty of women he would call ugly have been raped too thus proving him wrong? Does non of that sound saddening to you?
Still insane to me that Google and UA-cam still support this guy and give him money and that ad companies aren't protesting. He has Broken every single clause of the TOS
they arent protesting cause they only care about their bottom line. and it seems that there are enough fascist freaks for them to advertise on crowders channel.
We get. You fascists want to censor everyone you disagree with.
I wonder if Crowder knows that attraction is not absolute and varies from person to person...
Plus, rape is more about power than attraction, anyway. Psychology 101.
No. He doesn't understand, that would require empathy.
I had a couple mental breakdown in public during my teen years and I think about and am so embarrassed all the time. if someone had recorded any one of them it would’ve been even more embarrassing and potentially life ruining so I can’t imagine how she feels. Some ppl really have no sympathy
Man the video is so frustrating. The guy filming is literally just standing there antagonizing her and making the situation worse. Like sure if she cut in line that’s annoying or whatever, but just standing there egging her on with the obvious intent of making her scream more is such a shitty thing to do.
It's a perfect Lebowski "you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole!" The guy is in the right--of sorts--but proving himself "right" is causing more issue than if he just backed off. He'd clearly have the employees on his side, probably take him to another register, apologize to him for the whole thing and he'd be on his way. Instead he stays in the fray for no apparent benefit.
We didn't watch the same video, so I'll ask How was he egging her on??? By explaining to the employees she was flipping out and losing her mind over nothing? Or by trying to finish his shopping trip and Not let some screaming random to ruin his day
@@wado_ichimonji2311 when someone is having a freak out about you touching them and wants to be left alone, it is 100% egging them on to stand nearby, record them with your phone, and argue with them that actually it's totally fine that you touched them because they were cutting in line.
And I'm saying this as the kind of person that instinctively eggs people on when they are mad at me
@@quorryraphael9980 amazing that anyone needs this explained to them
Rape apologism comes as standard on that part of the spectrum. More damaging still, and less discussed is an unspoken belief in the right-to-rape. The overturning of Roe also guarantees that rapists will have more children.
So is he claiming that only the children he finds attractive were actually R victims...
Yeah, and he "loves his two beautiful daughters."
This man has definitely done something morally reprehensible to them by this logic.
Nope. Not at all. You're just in a cult that believes the craziest lies.
If someone accidentally got stepped on the foot by another customer and they screamed from the top of their lungs in deep pain while telling you that they just the other day broke their toes, the normal response would be to film them and mock them for screaming in pain? That's what I get from the people making fun of the woman.
Nobody knew of the injury and it was an accident but it nevertheless hurts like hell.
Going along with that analogy the guy basically didn't give a fuck about the broken toes and was just interested in making sure he didn't do it on purpose while mocking the victim.
Wish the discussion didn't get derailed by that lady having a breakdown.
How the hell does Steven Crowder still have a channel after this?
He's done tons of hainous shit, it seems the only way to actually shut him up is to crossbow from gmod him "in gmod"
Because not everyone is a fascist like you Vaush viewers.
Apparently I was a beautiful and attractive 11 year old, so at least I had that going for me right? :shrugs:
steven crowder would think that, yes
I thank the universe every day that I realized I was trans so I didn't end up as a failed comedian turned right-wing grifter like steven crowder.
Sargon has always been bad, but I think the “I wouldn’t even rp you” thing was a real turning point for him.
2:53 this is brilliant also debunked crowder in one witty line.
Still can't believe I use to be a Crowder fan. I am glad I moved on.
Moved on to Vaush? Bwahaahahahaaaa. You're heading in an ever further wrong direction.
@@nate7778 What are you even doing here?
@@mrcocoloco7200 I'm sorry. Do you not like anyone penetrating your echo chamber?
Just when I thought Stephen Crowder's face couldn't get any more punch-able
My brother actually recommended I watched this video, because I casually said in passing, "Stephen Crowder has the most punchable face." He disagrees. He thinks it's Matt Walsh.
In regard to Crowder saying that the rape survivors he's seen tend to be overweight, he should read up on how significant weight gain can occur as a result of PTSD related to rape due to factors such as the person developing binge eating disorder or subconsciously trying to make themselves less desirable.
Agreed. Crowder's whole video was horrifying, but that part about them joking about "gaining 300 pounds after someone lightly brushed their arm in Walmart" was the worst for me.
Yup, make jokes about one of the most traumatizing thing that can happen to someone. And no not the funny jokes that point out harsh truths but cold, vile and unethical 'jokes'. Your such a chad Crowder.
That woman isn’t accusing the guy of raping her. She got incredibly triggered by him touching her and is having a PTSD episode. And while I get that it is stressful for the guy who is getting yelled at, this is a really good example of why you shouldn’t touch strangers.
Hunter Avalone covered this video and someone came on and tried to argue that rape is not about power
Hunter's video on this was a big L but Vaush's is a W.
As someone who has PTSD this woman clearly is having an episode, and like when you're in that state all that's going through your head is the reliving of that trauma and the need to be away from perceived threats. U feel like you're in active danger which is why she's screaming for him to go away because the episode isn't going while u still feel you're in danger, u need to feel safe for your brain to get out of that situation.
I was 11 when I was pulled into the 2015 wave of anti-SJW shit, this stuff is made to appeal to edgy little boys who have no social skills.
11??? Jesus Christ....my friend was 25 and he's still stuck in that mentality.
Steven crowder genuinely has eric cartman energy
Cartman is an intellectual mammoth compared to this guy lol
The fact that Steven can watch a video of a woman clearly displaying intense PTSD and laugh at that in public is a testament to just how terrible of a person he is. Steve seems like the kind of guy who sees an abused dog on a documentary who is clearly extremely scared of people and blames the dog for being prejudiced against humans.
*Ah yes, the most mature thing an adult can do:*
Argue with an adult you think is having a tantrum to absolutely no benefit to anyone because you want to piss them off further so you can film it.
I'm STILL convinced that ColdFeetCrowder's audience only consists of 14 year old boys.
I have CPTSD and severe ADHD, and can have some pretty rough breakdowns on occasion (like last Monday where I had a screaming fit in the car over not having my card on me to buy limes for dinner.)
I've sort of taught myself to find secluded places (usually a bathroom or my car, sometimes the freezers at work) to have any sort of breakdown. I've had violent panic attacks in public before and I always feel gross afterwards. Society has really stigmatized having abnormalities and I've definitely internalized it.
I feel bad for people who may not have mental health crises often enough to warrant having an 'escape plan'. Things like this can happen to people, even if they're usually mentally well, external factors can take their tolls.
I saw a video where a woman who'd been assaulted many years ago but still couldn't stand to be grabbed a certain way freaked out when a woman did that to her in a store, and then when one of the first security people to respond was a man it didn't help, because she was in a PTSD episode. But it worked out, the guy knew about PTSD so he knew how to handle the situation, he kept his distance, talked calmly, etc. to avoid making it worse. They eventually got the lady's husband there, and got her calm enough to talk about what had happened in the store. Fear responses are more instinctive than deliberate, people who've been assaulted- especially recently- tend to not be able to handle reminders of their trauma. Getting accidentally bumped wasn't deliberate, but since her trauma was fresh and she hadn't built up any coping strategies that didn't really matter. Him standing there making a video was okay, evidence-wise, but he probably should have moved farther when it became obvious what was going on and that his very proximity was now a problem. Now, maybe none of it would have happened if she hadn't tried to cut in line, maybe he wouldn't have touched her. But it's also possible that she was having anxiety issues being out in public and wanted to get home as soon as possible before anything could happen, and was just unlucky that her attempt to get home before then caused the very kind of thing she feared might happen. Now that's just speculation, but it's plausible enough. I hate people who try to cut lines just because they think their time is more valuable than anyone else's, or heir discomfort more important than theirs, but an active medical issue like an oncoming anxiety/panic attack, dangerously low blood sugar, etc. is a different matter. Since there's a very real possibility that that's what was going on, I'm not gonna even try to judge her for line jumping. She didn't claim he attacked her. She was saying she'd been attacked and couldn't be touched, it was both trying to explain what was happening/why and warn people not to do it again. Honestly, being in such a state in public is something I'm kind of afraid of. My panic attacks are very different, but that's because that visceral fight-or-flight reaction hasn't been fully triggered, it's just that I can't control my breathing (and that almost always turns into an asthma attack because obviously when you're anxious not being able to breathe always makes it better! /sarcasm), I may become unable to speak, my muscles tense up, and I may become physically ill, but no fight-or-flight. The last time someone managed to trigger that I was in middle school, and I ended up totally blacking out, and when my senses came back I was on a desk screaming in front of the entire classroom. I was SO embarrassed, and the guy, who hadn't realized I'd freak out like that over being chased with those stupid safety scissors, got suspended. I've always felt bad about that, he wasn't being malicious, he was joking and it went too far before he realized it. He had no way of knowing I'd been assaulted several times in elementary school, including an attempt on my life. He was my only friend in that class too.
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If you laugh or say "just compose yourself" to people having a mental episode, you're a sick monster. Their mind is closing in on them, their vision is hazy, they can't focus, and there are needles being pressed in their brain. Stress is eating them alive, they must fight and scream to survive the battle in their head. It's hell, anguish.
I’m glad to see that Steven Crowder is still utilising his signature media technique of lying and hoping no one fact checks him
holy shit listening to those men just chuckle in the background about rape literally makes me nauseous
So what is his response to children being assaulted ?
Vaush. As someone who has been raped multiple times, I completely understand this woman's reaction. Calling someone with PTSD "clearly insane" is extremely fucked up.
I’m really sorry you went through that, but I don’t think you understand his point. He’s trying to say that she isn’t in her right mind at that moment because she’s having a mental breakdown and so she shouldn’t be expected to “behave like an adult”
@@thefoochie2118 Oh I am aware, but consider that many of his viewers are young men who were formerly incels, or just young people in general - it sets a soft ableist precedent by using demeaning language against a group of people who are CONSTANTLY demeaned and dehumanized, not to mention misunderstood.
I do agree with his larger point, but PTSD is not someone "acting insane" or "acting crazy - both things he said in that segment. The poor thing is just melting down (which he did say) but its just degrading when I too have suffered horrific events that led to me "acting insane" when my physical space was violated or even when I was approached by a male stranger. Being called "insane" and "crazy" only sent me spiraling down further. And, to be sure, I suppose I was. But Vaush's sympathies feel hollow when he turns around and uses that language to describe one of us. That's all.
@@NefariousSpineLizard oh yeah his language rubbed me the wrong way too. The words crazy and insane aren’t necessarily ableist but the way he said it had some ableism. I guess I just looked past it cause I can tell that vaush actually cares about the woman and isn’t trying to say “crazy” to dehumanize her, even if it sounds like he is
I don't know if it's just me, but because it's a Sam's Club I'd ask somebody that works there (a woman of course) to tell her about the Sam's Club app so she could walk through the store, scan her own groceries, and leave the store without having to even remotely interacting with anyone. It wouldn't just help in this situation, but also the future. And no, this isn't an ad for the Sam's Club app, I'm just a dude with PTSD from 7 deployments that hates anything resembling a crowd.
Guy is begging to be deplatform
thanks for tearing into chat Voosh, I literally just had a mental health crisis at my job today and, while not as much of a spectacle as this, i’ve been beating myself up over it and this helped a little bit
alternative title: vaush argues with chat on whether mental illness exists
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A lunatic arguing with his lunatic viewers about lunacy. This has to be the best I've seen on the channel.
Things like the video of the woman having a breakdown going viral with nothing but toxic behavior makes me scared as someone who suffers from PTSD and other mental illnesses and have to spend every day using coping skills and other tactics I've learned to avoid ending up on stuff like r/freakout.
Maybe just don’t attack people hey?
About the screaming thing. When I've had panic attacks, I'll start screaming and won't even realize it until after it happened. I just need to do something because my brain feels like it's melting, so I start screaming. Calling her a child for screaming during this is stupid, stop it you goofy goobers.
Canada, come get your boi...
We don't want him!
@@preciousmourning8310 aw, come on! You gave us Jim Carrey, and so you do deserve credit there. But step up, my neighbors. Lol
When did we all collectively stop deciding that the proper reaction to people being mentally ill in public is "ignore it and go on with your day" and instead it was changed to "become further involved and make it your responsibility to document all of this and interact with them continuously"
I don't think he really did anything wrong by recording it tbh, in case the whole sitation led to a court case or something like that. Posting it for people to gawk at is the real issue.
@@dragondahl3828 EXACTLY
What you described was literally never ever the status quo LMAO life didn't work the way it did in psychology textbooks, people used to title mentally ill people the Town Fools or Village Idiots and strap a bell to them for comedic effect
@@lx4079 People also used to smoke in hospitals and play with radioactive material. Things change.
@@dragondahl3828 What would have lead to a court case? Like just walk away lmao. When someone starts behaving erratically around me I don't stand around mumbling things at them and recording them, I walk away.