Think Differently about Editing Your Landscape Photos
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Have you ever wondered whether there's a right or wrong way to edit your landscape photos? Are you not sure where to start or how far you should go with your edit. Could you be focused too much on getting it right in camera? I see these and many other misconceptions about post-processing landscape photography images that I wanted to address in this video.
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There are plenty of photo editing tips videos on UA-cam. I've created a selection myself. However, I wanted to discuss some of the misconceptions some people might have about editing landscape images.
There's so much that goes into creating an image, the planning, get to a location, hiking to a spot, exploring the scene, working a composition, gear, settings, technique and finally capturing the shot. But that's just half of it. At least 50% of the final image is yet to be created, and that's the editing or Post-processing. It's through the editing process where you can make that image shine.
I enjoy the process of editing my landscape images, not only is it a creative outlet, but I learn more about the photos I've captured and how I can improve them. I then apply that knowledge the next time I go out for a shoot. So it helps me improve my photography.
Post-processing is a big part of the creative process to make that final image so make sure you practice different editing techniques. As with anything, the more you practice, the better you'll get at editing and the quicker you'll become. When you're on-location, don't worry about getting it right in camera, instead, make sure that what you capture the shots you'll need to create that final image. As with any creative process, there's no "right way" to edit, find an approach that works for you and your style. Be guided by the image.
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Getting it in camera goes back to the days of slide photography when what you shot was what you got and there was little room for error. It certainly forced you to think about the shot. These days I shoot in RAW and love the ability to edit the shot in LR. I do draw the line at sky replacement and adding elements that weren’t there. Great video Andrew 👍
Thanks Gary, you've described nicely the freedom and creativity that is now possible when shoot digital. There's lot's enjoy about shooting film and slide, however embracing the possibilities of digital is a lot of fun! 👍
Hi, you are so absolutely right. My main goal when doing landscape is to get all the data I need. ETTR! Use live view and the histogram and you should be safe. Always shoot in manual mode to have complete control over your settings. Editing is often a wow experience when you get home. If your image look dull and there is nothing much to it, it's usually great! The back of your camera is just an indicator.
Thanks for your good work and sharing! Stay safe. All the best from Norway
Thanks for your comment and sharing your point of view. I agree, manual mode and the history are your friend. One of the things I enjoy about editing is bringing the image to life from a dull RAW file. Thanks again and all the best! 👍🏻
I really appreciate your informative videos and your calm and knowledgeable approach.
Absolutely agree Andrew with your misconceptions and the one thing that is making a difference for me is what you said about incremental changes. Making small changes and slowly building up the image makes such a difference and also enables me to make any corrections a lot easier as you're not ripping everything up and starting again if you don't like what you have produced
Thanks Jimmy, I agree gradual changes is the key to managing the adjustment and getting the outcome you want for the image. As you say, it makes it so much easier to go back and change those adjustment if needed. Thanks for your comment mate!
Amen to everything you said !!!
One point that pisses me of is because I shoot film, people say to me film photography is true photography because you can't cheat with film (if only they knew what can be achieved in a darkroom...).
Have a good day
Comes from shooting film back in the day, unless you had access to a darkroom it was very limiting to make changes on the backside of the process. Now there are unlimited options to edit so why would you not use those options. I still try to get the best option straight out of the camera to reduce the time spent in post processing. Excited what other options we will have in the future for editing tools. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Great info and advice Andrew. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Much appreciated.
My pleasure Mark, glad to hear you found it helpful mate! 👍
Great video Andrew.
Very interested topic.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us all.
All the best from Scotland for 2021.
Thanks
Many thanks Stuart, now Scotland is a place I'd like to go back to when things are safe. Glad you found the topic interesting, just shedding some light on a topic that can seem mysterious to some! 👍
Thanks, Andrew, for a very clearly presented tutorial.
You're very welcome Robert, thanks so much for your feedback! 👍
great video Andrew,I agree a great photograph is the end result of both . the shot and post as long as you are not adding things, A.Adams said it best half and half for a great photo. your beach shots warm us up here in Canada thanks
Thanks Joe, glad you enjoyed this mate! It's definitely a combination of both isn't it. I've keep sending those warm beach shots over, you stay save in that beautiful country of yours. 👍
Like the new set up, Andrew. I must admit I watched the video on my iPhone in the observation area after my Covid jab and wondered why there was a toilet roll on the shelf. Looks better on the big screen! Not good news that you're back in lockdown today, still better off than us, ours has been extended for another 3 weeks. Get the scene right in camera is fine, but given the technical base of RAW capture I'm surprise anyone would expect to get a photo visually 'right'. Cheers
Thanks for that Brian. Firstly, congrats on the COVID job. I have a feeling we might be 6-12 months away from ours over here. Haha, now you mention it, it doesn't look a little like a toilet roll, may be there's something in that 🤔 No, after 260+ days with no community transition, we now have 1 case (currently) so we are in a hard lockdown for a week (for now). I think the general plan to to go hard quickly and see if we can get rid of the virus. Thanks so much for your comment, stay safe!
There seems to be so many myths online about photography these days, I do believe that you should try and capture the best image you can in camera, however it is the editing that makes a difference to the final image. One of the other myths is that you have to have a full frame camera to get an amazing image, yet I have have a full frame and a Fuji XT3 and to be honest I get very similar images from both, the biggest difference for me is that with two different brands I find I have to edit them in different programmes and slightly differently, at least that's how I find it works for me. I loved your Pemberton image by the way, I live in Albany and must get back there again, such beautiful forrest.
Hi Julie, you're right, getting what you 'need' in the shot in camera is important, but it's just a means to an end, the edit is what's going to get you there. Yes, there are a whole bunch of myths around gear as well, perhaps content for a future video :) The forest around Pemberton are beautiful as is the coastline around Albany, one of my favourite regions in WA to shoot. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and feedback on the video and images Julie.
Love it 👍🏻
Good to see you and video Andrew 😊
Thanks mate, doing everything I can to increase the video frequency 😊 👍
Absolutely amazing information - super informative! :D Thank you once again!
Hi Matt, so glad you enjoyed this one mate. I am not joking but if the year didn't go the way it did last year, we would be in Slovenia right now. How crazy is that? Shame it all had to be cancelled. 😔 Hope you are keep well! 👍
I’m so much happier with my Sony a7iii then the canon 750D I started on. Which I’ll always have a soft spot for
Thanks for the insight this is a well done video
I have only been doing photography a short while, but it always seemed obvious to me that there would be some editing. I've been an oil painter for far longer, and the "it should look perfect straight out of camera" idea seems to similar to saying that you should use only colours straight out of a tube of paint. In both cases the ability to accurately display colours is limited by technology. Just as you can't get the perfect skin tone out of tube of paint without mixing, you can't get the perfect colours out of an RGB sensor- not for that matter from film.
The end result is the important thing, and while I don't like to go too far to change what my camera gives me, a good image is more important than whether or not I have changed it.
I wouldn't personally use fake skies and that kind of thing, but I see no reason to tell others they can't either. Creativity should not be imprisoned by rules.
In my opinion.
Mmmmm that delicious grey chocolate :) that set aside, great video. Getting it right in camera for landscape, could easily be summarized in short: Maximizing dynamic range. Unless some creative effect where highlights or shadows is crushed.
Haha, I still can't decide if it's grey or brown, it changes in different light. Thanks for share you comment.
Great video Andrew, and explained very well. I know a few people who I will be telling to watch it. Nice new studio look as well.
Much appreciated Andrew! Haha, glad this video might come in handy for you as you share the power of editing with others. Thanks for the feedback on the studio mate! 👍
What a great video and tutorial thanks Andrew.
You're very welcome Jeremy, so glad you enjoy it! 😊
Thanks Andrew. Great advice! I like to be guided by what I experienced at the time and the the emotional response in me that made me want to shoot the image. When it comes to things like colour correction, I really go by what I saw at the time. Sometimes I find greens can easily become over saturated and look unnatural, or a sunset comes out more yellow than it was. I like my image to have been of something that happened in front of my camera, but I will dodge and burn. The thing I try to get right is composition in camera to avoid cropping and sacrificing pixels. I do like the new studio. The image on top of the shelves didn’t stand out so well in the video, though.
Yes! If it was good enough for Ansel Adams to edit his landscapes (heavily in fact), it's good enough for us.
For those shooting Nikon, Fuji or Sony who want to try editing without buying software, there are the Express versions of Capture One. "Lite" versions of the software admittedly, but you can't argue with the price. :-)
Yes indeed, Ansel Adams certainly embraced editing process. Thanks for sharing that information about the Lite versions of Capture One, an excellent idea for someone who is just starting off in the world of editing. Thanks again Shane! 👍
Hi Andrew, that was a great summary on the subject of capture & edit process. I remember capturing images that I thought would turn out well, only to find that I didn't get all the information I needed and therefore I was unable to produce the final image I was planning. Yes, I do like your new background in your studio. Simple, subtle and not distracting. Professional? LOL.
The books.... are they from Thomas Heaton, Adam Gibbs, Ben Horne? Just a guess. You should do one as well, cheers from the East coast.
It's great to get your comments Phil. There's been a few times where I've sat down to edit a image only to realise I don't have all the information. Luckily we learn from our mistakes 🤣 Thanks for your feedback on the studio, I thought it was about time I gave it a fresh look. The books are from Adam and Ben, so nice guess. I've considered creating my own book, thank you for the words of encouragement, it's just what I need! 👍
Well said Andrew! I have always tried to capture as much data in camera as possible, and then make the most of it in post processing to major look as close to what I saw in the first place. With some artistic license on occasion!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tim, sounds like you have an excellent approach and a balanced outlook on the editing process! 👍
Hi Andrew, thanks for the editing advice, I gave up trying to get it right in camera a while back so I am pleased to see his advice from your channel.
The new studio looks great less distracting elements than the old view. The dark wall and images in the background give it more of a pro feel.
Cheers
Peter.
Hi Peter, glad you enjoyed this video mate. Hope you are keep well. Thanks also for the feedback on the studio, the old one needed a refresh! 👍
Hey Andrew. I love the new look .. .works really well, nice and moody but at the same time homely. Love the content of this video mate.
Thanks so much Richard. Thought it was about time to give the studio a bit of a fresher look, particularly when I'm looking at shoot more of this style of video in the future! 👍
Good overview Andrew - presented like a true educator. I was trapped on item number 3 when starting out. However, mimicking others' process did help with the learning curve on LR/PS. I don't recognize the books on the shelf but the camera on the top shelf looks like an Nikon SLR? An F3 or FM2 maybe? What about the camera on the lower shelf? Hope all is well.
Hi Miguel, I am well thanks, hope you are as well. Haha hope it didn't come across as too lecture like! 😀 Yeah, it was number 3 for me as well. There was this real mystery around what I should be doing. Using others as an example to mimic is a great way to learn. I'll talk about that a little more in upcoming videos. The books were tricky, I should turn them around to make it easier (Hint: Horne and Gibbs). You nailed the 35mm film camers, it is indeed the Nikon F3. A hint for the other camera...it's medium format.
@@Andrew_marr I'll guess a Mamiya or Bronica.....maybe a Hassy? I can't seem to place the prism piece on top : )
Haha, great try mate. It's actually a Pentacon Six TL
@@Andrew_marr Agh! I was leaning toward that... I used to collect film cameras but never got a Pentacon. Thanks Andrew!
Good stuff Andrew, love ya work 👌
Much appreciated Marty, thanks for your support! 👍
Great video Andrew and totally agree. There are so many misconceptions about photography that debates often get heated. Even the concept of RAW is not clearly defined. Here is the geek in me, RAW is a digital file, not an image. Its coding varies from camera to camera and requires a file to read and convert to something that you can see, and ultimately edit. What you see on the back of your camera LCD is the camera applying the reader code and processing algorithm to present a jpeg view. It's the same when you go to lightroom. So every image is an edited version. Some better than others.
For those you are happy to accept jpegs Gordon Laing produced a very interesting book called - In Camera. Every image was composed and setup in camera. Sometimes it took several goes to get the final image and they are all jpegs out of the camera. On some of them he has tweaked the jpegs in camera between shots. Does this constitute post processing?
Again great video. Thank you for sharing.
I would agree John, it's all digital, interpretation and algorithms. That's why I had to address the phase...straight out of camera is more natural... Even a jpg could be defined as not an image, but an image file. Then even with that file, the image can differ depending on what type screen you are look at and with what profile it uses. The same can be said about printing the final image, different printers, with different papers and again different profiles will provide different results. I just don't want people to be scared of editing, but embarrass it instead. I'll check out Gordan Laing's book, thanks so much for sharing your point of view! 👍
Andrew ,do you use a separate keyboard with the benq or the laptop keyboard
Hi Joe, thanks for your question. Yes, I use a separate keyboard and mouse when I’m using the BenQ. It’s not an editing specific keyboard, just a small Apple Magic keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse 2, cheers 😃